>argues that humans cannot co-exist with monsters that are stronger than them and also wants to rape and eat them 24/7>narrative paints him as a fucking lunatic chud
>>724226710Shut up and get raped.
>>724226710He was completely vindicated with the monster world too.>The ancestors pretend it is a fair and just world because there is no God ruling over them and everyone is free to take fate into their own hands>Humans are lower than cattle and can get murderraped at any moment from essentially everyone
>>724226710Lazarus was based and he somehow gets 10x cooler in paradox.
>>724226710Then why did he only kill humans and not monsters?
>>724226846Monster world was nonsensical even by paradox standards desu
>>724226710>bombing mermaid schools will save humanity
>>724226965It is kinda odd, for someone who went all the way to the Demon Lord's castle with one of Heinrich's descendants,you'd expect him to be more knowledgeable about the durability of monsters and what actually kills them.
if anything, the monster realm should have been a balls to the walls nightmare hellscape where humanity is completely dominated but as it is it just seems... nice.
>>724226965Very antisemetic post
>>724226710they did him so dirty in the original. so glad he's a cool pimp in paradox.
>>724226710He's unfortunately in a might makes right setting and he's not very strong
>>724226710Maybe he should've done something about the actually dangerous monster girls instead of bombing mermaids that have assimilated with the people of Port Natalia.
>>724226967I'm half-way through the angel world now and I find it hilarious that the contrast is so off.>Monster world>First two things you see is humans being sold as living dildos, who are either raped to death or disposed of when broken.>Angel world>First thing you see is the horrific scene of... clones being used as slave labor. But they are designed to love their work and doesn't actually suffer.Yeah I get it. It is an affront to life but it pales in comparison to the fucking museum dedicated to human torture that you venture to as your very next destination.
>>724227423The angels always felt like the actual focus of paradox imoAlice even having a route at all seems more out of a misplaced sense of obligation
>>724227423>But they are designed to love their work and doesn't actually suffer.Finally someone who understands! there is literally NOTHING wrong with having Sam slave away in ignorance, eating nothing but rice and vegetables and finally shoving him into a meat grinder to harvest his blood and organs once his body starts giving out.
>>724227540I like the ancestors more than the archangels in general but a lot of focus went into Illyas getting character development.>>724227796Not saying it is good or anything but since the narrative is a comparison between the worlds then that is what I have to do and clones being used and disposed is far less of a sin than humans you allegedly saved being raped to death or displayed in the torture museum.
>>724227796Compared to the alternative? Sure, it’s certainly less fucked.
How is bad the Paradox MTL? Don’t think I can wait until the actual translation is done sometime next decade.
>>724226710>Sequel redeems him showing how he was truly OUR GUYAll is forgiven.
>>724226710he's insecure if women irl can accept that men are stronger than them and can rape them then so can humans accept monster girls
>>724227227>narrative can't refute someone's extremely valid points>just have him act like a retard, throw in some hypocrisy, then kill himah, a tale as old as time
>>724228016Humans are used as fuel to keep powering the artificial spirits and chimera monsters. The split between the upper and lower ranks of humans is to have a nice supply of sacrificial lambs to keep the AW functioning, and without any pushback, since the lower ranks are seen as sinners and less than animals.
>>724228920Sounds like normal juman society desu
Pick up that can.
>>724228970Yeah, but big meaty tits angel promised Luka a world of peace and tranquility. We got North Korea, angel edition instead. And no, I'm not saying MW is good either, even if it has bigger highlights than AW.
how does the collab event work now that part 3 released is it mandatory
>>724229118Pick up this DAYSTAR BITCH
>>724228016AW is a just a straight line of absolute misery.MW is a curved line that goes up to absolute shit, down to being pretty damn good, and back up to absolute shit again.
>>724229118Make me, shortie.
>>724228198AI can translate really well in real time
>>724230870>how about you play a game where the menu changes every time you look at itNo thanks.
>>724229349No, but you get class and race items by doing it. If you don't, you will have to wait until the chaos path in part 3 to unlock them.You also get the collab characters too, but most people really don't care about them, especially now that they have become pretty substandard in the meta game.
>>724226710What gaem?
>>724231397What are the good chain abilities anyway? Looking at the wiki, it doesn't seem like there's many useful ones outside Special -> Skill or a few others. I don't really need to chain Swords into Spears into Axes, especially since nobody is going to be holding all three weapons.Unless I'm massively misunderstanding how skill chains work. I assume they are all for the single character.
>>724231527Angel Boy Adventure
>>724226967What's funnier is that it's very visible that it was significantly toned down from how it bad it was initially supposed to be, trtr realized the whole thing about great choice wouldn't be so great if one side was comically evil.
Ilias did nothing wrong
>>724227014>>724227227>>724228578Its the same way in real life though. When have you ever seen terrorists attack any kind of authority that is actually oppressing and killing their people and not drive trucks through parades or shoot/stab people at festivles that could care less.
>>724232705Which one?The OG one who realized she did everything wrong? Or the AW one, who deep down inside, is sad she killed her sister, and wanted to return to the good old days?
>>724228291Does he come back three days later?
Does lazarus do anything cool in part 3?
>>724235712He's got a good line against Koron after being scared shitless when fighting the previous 14 calamities. Still not as cool as him using Salamander in the VN.
>>724226710If the monsters are so strong you cannot coexist with them, then they're also too strong for you to fight against. If you're strong enough to fight against them, then you can coexist with them.His actions defeat his own ideology.
>>724236587>Still not as cool as the VN.Could be the tagline for Paradox desu.
Why was he like this?
>>724226710The only reason he is pissed, is that a monster killed the woman he loved. Which is kind of funny, because that woman is not someone worth loving in Paradox.
TOTAL MONSTER DEATH
>>724236909Gay
>>724237080
>>724237080>blocks ur path
>>724231194Just use the patch that replaces all the text with english. Pretty sure it's constantly getting updated so less of the text is MTL every update, almost. And as for the quality of the MTL, it's not the worst thing I've seen. Not terrible, I guess.
>>724237080whoa whoa whoa, what is this? its a bit too based for this thread
>>724226710He was correct but his methods were retarded.I do not know how he could do better though, since monster girls are too resilient for his ISIS antics.
>>724239302Don't be too impressed.The devs don't want you to treat monster girls like they out to be treated, and punishes you for it.
>>724239302ShriftA game where the dev got so pissed off at his playerbase killing his beloved murderwhores that he patched the game to make the genocide route impossible to beat
>>724240349Barghest best gril.
>>724240502that's not a girl, that's a dog
>>724240349>A game where the dev got so pissed off at his playerbase killing his beloved murderwhores that he patched the game to make the genocide route impossible to beatIt's one thing to beat the game but beating it's creator to the point he's mindbroken? Based
>>724237080I'm supposed to disagree with this? The logical conclusion to any "coexistence" with monsters is as pets at best or cattle at worst. Luka and Kazuya are the only ones not completely fucked over because they can bridge the power gap to meet them on equal terms.
>>724241425You are as bad as the enemy if you kill them.
>>724240872It's a girl dog.
>>724237080>>724241425From what I understand from the setting, Lampas basically kill a person (or cripple them to the point of paralysis) and then the Lampas demon consumes their body, leaving the human "soul" alive while the Lampas wanders around freely. And the argument here is... well, there's still human souls alive in there, so it's bad to kill Lampas demons? That's fucking terrifying, and I'm sure a lot of people would prefer to just be dead over watching something wander around and murder their family members, and is only able to do so because they're still technically alive.I get the person making the games has some weird specific snuff fetish, but at least admit that it's a little weird and not everybody is going to get off to having your body and mind destroying, and being turned into an observer as something just destroys humanity with your corpse.
>>724241552OK Trudeau
>>724241425Funniest part is that the game repeatedly tries to bash you over the head that you're a bad person for killing them...even though they're all sadistic monsters that enjoy killing, raping and eating people.
>>724241425MGQ, especially Paradox, shows that putting all monsters in the same category is wrong. Since a Dog Girl isn't going to be anywhere near as bad as a Red Slime.SHRIFT's monster girls are all hell spawn, their very existence is a threat to humans. The Dev is a retarded thinking people are going to feel any sympathy for these bitches.
Stop thinking about sex!
>>724242358It's okay, just like anal, paizuri doesn't count.
How are the Paradox games anyways? Are they better than the original three games? Thinking of finally picking it up now that the final part is out
>>724241006Genocidechads are known to mindbreak their authors, it's not the first time that it happens.
>>724243153Yes, and no.Unlike the VN, this is a full fledge JRPG, one of the biggest ones imaginable. If you like this style of game, then yeah, you'll probably find it better than the VN.But if you don't care about JRPGs at all, then you will definitely not like this either.
>>724243340I can do that. How's the writing?
so where do I get paradox and the translations? I haven't really checked with this game since I beat the original trilogy centuries ago
>>724242681Huh, that so?
>>724241962Man the EX chapters were a mistake. At least it had the shotacon lamia and Sphinx's true form.
>>724242681
>>724243776Same as the VN, but it lacks the preachy moments, since Luka isn't trying to bring the different species together.What is ultimately going to change your perception on the writing is the companion you pick. Ilias is widely considered the better written route from start to finish compared to Alice, but I've seen detractors saying the opposite.
>>724244046PUT THEM BACK
>>724243153MGQ Paradox is basically Dragon Quest 3 on autism. You recruit monsters in your party, and can basically recruit everyone. (including bosses and optional superbosses, at least eventually) Every character has a job that they level up and learn skills from, and there are more advanced jobs which require maxing out lower jobs, so there's a lot of advancement for characters. They ALSO have races and advanced races, along with passive abilities for each character, so there's a lot you can do to focus on when customizing any one character.That said, if you don't like the job system autism, then the whole JRPG combat will probably feel very grindy and boring. There's probably close to 2x or 3x the number of characters in Paradox as the original MGQ, but most of the MGQ characters don't get new CG images - or maybe they'll get one. The big difference is in text, as once you recruit characters, you can build up a relationship with them (use them in combat, feed them food) and make requests which are basically the same CGs, but with good endings.
>>724226965You always start with traitors.
>>724244160I-It just does!
>>724244250Can you confirm it?
>>724244423How about YOU be the judge of that?
>>724244480I will pass...
>>724226965He was too weak and afraid to kill monsters.
>>724226710>Is right>Oh shit, we've written ourselves into a corner? Better lobotomize bomberman and double down on dindu monstersRich
>>724244528*cough*gay*cough*
>>724231590>I have no idea how the game mechanics workGod damn anon. Just fucking play to even know what the hell you are asking about before trying to go all tryhard powergamer optimization bullshit
>>724244528Lame...
>>724228198Are you capable of understanding who is being talked about when pronouns are messed up? Then the MTL is fucking great! Jokes come across, the complex abilities and interactions of the thousands of abilities make perfect sense, story is engaging and epic.Be a smooth brain and get confused because Luka is talking about Alice but calling her he instead of she? Then the MTL is unsalvageable dogshit that just talks gibberish
>>724243776>>724244071Alice route is pretty similar to the route that the VN takes, with Alice sort of having similar reactions as she did in the VN. So you're going to hear her talk about the same sorts of things that she did when reaching different locations, for example. It trails off somewhat quickly once you hit the Paradox points, since those are completely different, but she still has much the same things to say about different villages and locations as she did with the VN.Ilias already knows what happens (or is supposed to happen) from the VN, so she is quick to point out discrepancies between the VN events and Paradox events. Not just major things, but stuff like Sonia and Ilias immediately making assumptions about Luka's parents - something different in Paradox, where she's surprised to find out. It's why Ilias route is generally considered the "for people who played the VN" because it plays off what you already know from the VN, as opposed to retreading the same points.It's up to you, which you prefer to follow. Alice can work if you want to revisit the VN and don't recall the main points, Ilias can work if you just want her snarky comments or want more talk about what's going on. I'm not sure one is better written than the other, but Ilias certainly talks about a lot more of what "should" be going on from her perspective.I haven't played Part 3 yet, but you get to make a choice there which can effectively switch which one is following you (it's very clear, so don't worry about blindsiding) if you want to change.>>724243801>so where do I get paradox and the translations?/vg/ and their /mggg/ thread, or F95 have downloads. The ArzorX blog is still active and working on a human translation, altho /mggg/ and F95 have a MTL available.If you mean buy, it's available on DLSite. You'll need to wait for the MTL to get updated to whatever version is on DLSite, or just buy it and then download from the above for a translated version.
>>724244693>>724244902Sorry but i don't trust monsters. Also ass > tits
>>724244759I'm still playing Part 2 and am waiting for the full translation until moving on to Part 3. I don't have access to any of the jobs with chain abilities.
>>724245125thanks anon
>>724232789>That’s right. The IRA, French Revolution, American revolution, insert basically every white “terrorist” here, never does anything to those in power and they only go after innocents!!!Hey dipshit. There is a reason we all hate non-whites. Maybe stop being a stupid fucking faggot and realize your brown friends are all fucking pussys and stop trying to paint everyone with the same brush.
>>724226710>plays femdom game>gets mad at femdom narrative
>>724226965It's the vampire paradox
>>724245236You have the full translation. The MTL for part 3 is great
>>724245429Those are armed revolts, not really fitting into standard mold of terrorists
>>724245831Which Lazarus and his goons probably want to start, but it wont since the monster threat to humanity isn't that big at the moment in the VN.It's funny when you think about it, but a genocide route in MGQ would not end well for Luka. Kazuya killing all the demon spawn in SHRIFT would get looks of disappointment from his friends, but the wider world would be quite happy if they found out. Luka would be despised if at the end of the game, he has the option to just hit a button, and all non-humans would disappear. Large chunks of the wider world would consider him a greater monster than B.Alice.
>>724245467Yeah how about not making the player character the victim of their deranged brutalizations?Maybe I don't want to get fucking eaten/dryfished/killed for the lolsMaybe I don't want teamkilling retards as alliesJust maybe I'm not a masochistic subhuman like you
>>724226710Didn’t the dev say that if humanity rallied together, they’d be able to beat the monsters?
>>724246117>Large chunks of the wider world would consider him a greater monster than B.AliceAnd that's a good thing. Vlad, the inventor of shish kebab, taught me that only extreme brutality and fear propaganda can work on brutal "people"
>>724245041mtl also likes to add unnecessary pronouns where they don't belong. A sentence must begin with "I" because it just has to. We are still ways off from mtl being consistent with context, subject and perspective.That said, the manual translation has some mistakes in it too, here and there. Someone with a bit of nip skill should spot them fairly easily even from the english text.Take this snippet from a Promestein-Eden castle conversation for instance【エデン】心の声なら仕方ありませんね。これからもイリアス様のために尽くすのですよ。【プロメスティン】(イヤです……)<Eden>If it is a voice in my mind, it cannot be helped. I shall do my best for Ilias' sake from now on...<Promestein>(I hate you...)Eden says that *Promestein* is to dedicate herself to Ilias, not just talking about herself. And what is that rewrite reply? Promestein says "I refuse", or "FUCK no" if you like.Sloppy job, I tell you.
>>724246365>play femdom game that exlicitly uses "lose and get raped" in the title>get femdom raped>get mad at femdom rape in the femdom rape gamejust what exactly did you fucking expect? are you one of those HFY faggots that gets rekt every time?
>>724246462yeah, just mildly tired of all femdom games being the same garbage where the male mc is always the victimgimme a dominant female mc game already that lets me commit mass murderlike seriously take any femdom game and switch the player character, that's all I'm askingbut then all fem mc games are fucking "get raped by ugly fucks" simulators so they're all garbage tooI fucking hate the porn game industry>>724246781no, (but yes to the hfy part, fuck you defeatist nigger) I'm just tired of every femdom game being the same garbage for masochistic faggots
>>724246640Stuff like this is why I'd prefer to just grind Part 2 and fill out the Encyclopedia or jobmax characters, and wait for the human translation. It's good that I can get to the end of the game without confusion over the MTL, but if I don't understand what half the conversations are about, then half the point is lost. I'm not in some huge rush to hit Lv.200 and max out all the different super-sealed races on my waifu character, so it's not a huge deal to wait another year or to until I get to the story again.
>>724246975>I am tired of games in the same genre being similarIf they weren't similar, they would be different genres.
>>724226710If the setting was realistic humans would band together and use superior numbers and tecnology to exterminate monsters
>>724245467>>724246781If they want to kill monsters good for them. The game is already shit so they might as well give the player the opportunity for a total monsters death ending, including the fake gods yada yada you get it.
>>724247262Then what would you call them?It's still femdom, the only change is that instead of controlling the victim, you get to control the aggressor, that's it. Or does that somehow disqualify it from counting as a femdom game?I'm genuinely curious about what you think.
>>724246365there is an option to hide vore and other extreme stuff iirc
>>724247262Almost every game is under the "adventure" genre. I'm fucking tired of other genres stealing OUR thunder
>>724247358The humans of MGQ are not like our world's humans, and you are forgetting that two of the great kingdoms have monster populations loyal to them. That isn't taking into count the smaller villages that are closer to monsters too.
>>724247021>stuff like thisHey smooth brain. That anons example was of a manual translation. He agreed with me that MTL was mostly just pronoun errors
>>724227796making clone slaves that are biologically driven to genuinely find joy and meaning in their labor, and then feeding them a healthy diet of rice and vegetables to keep them in peak condition while they continue working, is genuinely just the clone equivalent of breeding draft horses and other working animals.Like, if these clone slaves had pointy animal ears you've just invented umamusume. Draft horses LOVE pulling heavy shit. They will pull heavy shit all day. It is their meaning in life. It's not remotely the crimes against humanity that the monsters are doing by murdering and eating every single human in sight.
>>724226710He had such a good argument the author had to strawman him later. I'll leave the retards on the side of monster girls to cope with that fact.
>>724247747What a majestic creature
>Kanon>Gabriellawhy are they like this
>>724247678Monsters have beast behaviour, most of them don't even use clothes. They would totally get exterminated if the humans invented guns.
>>724246365>>724246975That’s based though.Humans are food and deserve to be treated like food.
>>724247440>play femdom game with male MC>get mad the male MC is submissiveYou make your own problems and then you annoy everyone else with them.
>>724248046No monsters should be exterminated. Maybe turned into limbless sex slaves for fun.
>>724247923You said humans would get together and slaughter them. But that wouldn't be the case.The most advance human nation that would be in the front of the line in creating such weapons, would not get on board with the crusade, since that would mean killing their automatons, their ant girl neighbors, and their king's new monster "friend".
>>724247021Considering pt.3 is several times longer than 1+2 combined especially the third route, it will probably be done in 2027 or so. I'm not waiting 2 more years on top of the several between pt.2 and 3.
>>724248196If monsters existed in the real world nobody would trust them or try to make alliances with them. Look what happened to the indian americans. The different one get exterminated as a safety measure.
>>724228578>>narrative can't refute someone's extremely valid points>>just have him act like a retard, throw in some hypocrisy, then kill him>ah, a tale as old as timeaka legend of korra season 1 "non-benders are sick of being ruled by benders for thousands of years, especially since despite supposedly being a spiritual practice bending in fact is purely hereditary and functions like a magical bloodline, to the point children of mixed parensts can do shit like earth+fire=lava bending? Oh fuck we don't have an answer to our western cultivation setting just turning into eugenics simulator like all the chinese ones!""HAHA, JUST KIDDING, THE BAD GUY WAS ACTUALLY A BLOOD-BENDER IN DISGUISE DOING THIS FOR POWER, EVEN HIS METHOD OF SEALING BENDING WITH ACUPOINTS WAS ACTUALLY JUST BLOOD BENDING, IT'S BENDING ALL THE WAY DOWN BABYYYYYY"imagine being one of the equalists and having all your legitimate grievances immediately ignored once it's revealed the only guy advocating for non-benders to have rights was a false flagging bender himself. lmao
>>724248046Ok, gimme a game that lets me control a monster girl.Every day you have to dryfish a human, gimme a kill counter and other ways to just torture/maim/kill random people for fun and pleasure.But no such game exists, it's all from victim perspective, it is all shit made for the masochist faggots.>>724248071I'm simply telling you that such a game that I am looking for doesn't exist and you're all at fault for that. So now I'm gonna shit up this thread for a while until I get over it and go back into the total monster death mindset. Fuck you. Nigger.
>>724227423>forgetting to mention that Hiroko turned an entire city into her digestive systemHonestly you have to be pants on head retarded to think the monster world in any way would be habitable for humans.
>>724246975The Depravity of a Lewd Vampire was pretty good. There's a bunch of platformers by NappleMill, might want to check them out.
>>724232789The IRA sniping British soldiers and going out of their way to warn the civilians about impending attacks?
>>724248443I mean…. We have that where it’s a monster boy and you fuck and consume women for power. Men are who play games, men do not want to play as a girl and have sex as a girl unless they are part of the 42%
>>724242093Paradox has a lighter tone, but it's still the same case.The starting village is on high alert because one slime decided to act up.The other slimes are retards who just like to flail boomerangs, the second they get tired of this they can wipe out everyone
>>724248760I mean the average monstergirl in MGQ is very low INT and wants to get along with humans, there are just occasional outliers.
>>724237337>>724236909Him being a fag whose entire ideology is just smoke and mirrors for not wanting to be fucked by women would make a lot of sense
>>724248760To be fair, Luka beats the shit out of multiple Slime Girls on his way up the mountain. So either the Slimes are a lot weaker, are a lot less motivated to fight, or Luka is a lot stronger than in the VN.It could also be that with monsters wandering around human cities, the humans practice fighting with monsters and have become stronger as a result. After all, if you can spar with a monster - and don't worry about hurting them, or getting hurt back - people can train to get stronger and more effective in fighting them.
>>724242093>I want to make a game where people fuck zany monster girls>instead of using a world where they get along and have equal exchanges, I'll make this eroge set in a world where monster girls mindbreak, rape, murder, and/or devour humans on a regular basis>I will then get upset when fans support defending themselves against these monsters instead of bending over backwards simping for themI do not understand SHRIFT's retarded dev at all
>>724247747Das a big horse anon
>>724249043>the fansbut those are not fansit's 90% people who have not played the game and love to go "I heard this and that and the dev this and that" and the one faggot who always posts the same lampas webm
>>724249228proof?
>>724248559TDoaLV - I tried it, too softcore, not enough begging for their lives, victims enjoy themselves too much and aren't suffering enough for it to be hot. It may as well be vanilla with a bit of flavor text at the end that the victim fucked till he dropped.Platformers? No thanks. Plus from the 1 game I found on f95 it seems to be softcore femdom again.>>724248723>monster boygigafaggot genre, I'd rather stay away from porn of the rest of my life than interact with such filthAh yes, the good old you're a troon if you don't like reloading saves and pretending nothing happened.Have you ever considered that perhaps I don't believe myself to be literally the character I'm controlling?Maybe I just want to see a hot (optionally monster) woman go on a killing spree.
>>724226965literally the first time you meet him he blows up a school for monster girls
>>724248883They have low INT for one reason, they're closer to beasts and follow instincts. You don't need to be evil to be dangerous.The previous post mentioned a dog girl, even without the energy-stealing part. If she gets rowdy and jumps on you (like all dogs do to show affection), with her monster strength, she'll just crush your torso.>>724249014>"After all, if you can spar with a monster"Who? Luka? The grandson or Illias?Sure, humans can get stronger, but it's a fantasy world. The average man or woman won't try to keep up, and what of anyone who isn't in their prime age? Are you doomed to be killed if you break your leg?
>>724249228Is that you SHRIFTdev?
>>724226710but what if i want to be raped and eaten by a monster girl?
>>724242093>>724248883Everybody in MGQ is pretty low INT. I'm not sure if getting along just lets them be dumber of if Paradox is just dumber by default, but both monsters and humans are remarkably fine with just sitting down and giving up the moment they lose a fight.But you are right, the harpies and kitsunes and even mermaids show that humans and monsters can live together without much problem, even if it generally requires one strong monster forcing the other monsters to not go overboard. It seems more dependent on the leader monster, as opposed to some specific monsters being more human-friendly than others. Paradox slimes around Iliasville seem fine with humans, while the ones around Undine's spring seem fine with eating them all.
>>724249313>I don’t self insertAre you unironically the cuck meme? You get off on watching others have sex while you are just in the corner?
>>724249520>anyone that doesn't engage in mental gymnastics is a cuckSelf inserters not beating the double digit IQ allegations.
>>724249425>both monsters and humans are remarkably fine with just sitting down and giving up the moment they lose a fight.it's a rule of this world, a monster girl showing her breasts weakens her target and eventually renders it too weak to move. Every monster is pretty much a subset of succubiAs for them, you use Angel Halo which has the same effect.
>>724249340>Who? Luka? The grandson or Illias?At the start of the MGQ VN, Luka has barely learned to swing a sword and just has to flail around like an idiot to fight off a slime. At the start of Paradox, Luka steamrolls thru an entire mountain of slimes to get to the top. It's entirely likely that Paradox Luka, wanting to be a big hero and better fighter, had actually fought against the local slimegirls (in a friendly match) and learned how to be competent.At the very least, Paradox Luka was more competent at combat than MGQ Luka at the start, and I doubt it was because there were better adventurers stopping by his inn to teach him.
>>724249520>Fuckreplace that with snuffAnd yeah, I get off on watching women kill others for pleasure, and no, I don't self insert as the guy who's getting killed.
>>724249710>a monster girl showing her breasts weakens her target and eventually renders it too weak to moveI might've forgotten that part.
>>724249772It was because of Sonya.Luka was ready to run off into the wild to chase his dad, but she only would allow him if he can beat her. He couldn't, and he had to wait until he was of age. Luka is a far better fighter in Paradox because he grew up a well adjusted person with friends, who didn't live in isolation because everyone in his village hated his guts.
>>724249326And all the monsters survive because they are pretty durable.
>>724249992Ah, right. Forgot about Sonya.Just like everybody else.
He was a retard that wanted to suicide by monster.
>>724249902That's a couple of lines at the start, I don't remember correctly but in short: ejaculation means you loseThat's also how Luka's healing works, he doesn't heal external wounds, he just calms down to not cum
>>724249813Fair enough>>724249682Being unable to self insert yourself into others shoes is something niggers are unable to do. You can try and explain it away but you are admitting you are on the level of a nigger when you justify it the way you are
>>724249228I like SHRIFT 2 very much but absolutely despise the first game for the reasons mentioned in anon's post, what now?
>>724250225Luka meditates and it literally heals his wounds.
>>724250421Then it turns out I am a lying faggotfuck
>>724249992Wasn't OG Luka trained wrong as a joke by the villagers because they wanted to keep him safe unlike Marcellus or am I misremembering?
I can't wait for Paradox part 3 to be translated
>>724250421But can it heal his emotional wounds?
>>724250837It is. MTL is great. Go play it
>>724250870Alice takes care of those
>>724250593No, he wasn't trained at all, outside of meeting the occasional adventure who gave him some pointers. It's actually kind of funny, but Luka had the chance of joining the temple like Sonya, and probably get stronger, but opted out to being a Inn keeper instead, and train independently.
>>724250918>AI slopfuck off
>>724250918>MTLis it? because I already waited for every part of every MGQ, I can wait a year or two if I can get a game with an acceptable level of translation
>>724251429>a year or two
>>724251120Far better than trannylations with quirky outdated jokes
>>724251504Am I that fucked?
>>724244160I bought some soft creamy round shaped soft dessert treat and stuck my dick inbetween two of them while playing the village of paizuri lolis.Felt fantastic, and before you ask no I didnt eat them after like some freak I tossed em. Was it worth the at the time $1.25? Yes.
>>724251429>is it?Nigger I already said it was.
>>724251120AÍ is the fucking future. There is literally a Luddite village in the game. You seem like you would be at home there
>>724251958It has been a year since P3 has been released, and it looks like the translations are about halfway done with the Alice/Illias paths of P3. The singularity path is larger than both of those combined.
>>724251958Yes. There will never be a human translation. AI translation is growing leaps and bounds every few months. I can already see a huge improvement just from first MTL to the current. It’s already more than good enough to play. It really only fucks up with pronounsEventually the AI translation will be so perfect there will be no point in even entertaining the difference between it and a manual translation. It took 3 years to human translation part2. Part 3 is 5-6 times the size. A human translation will never happen
>>724252642what is luddite?
>>724251120>>724252642AI art is mediocre and the simple fact is craftsmanship should not be devalued, if you can't draw join the company and be the idea guy so the artist will draw for y->>724251802>AI translationOh.Nevermind.Translation isn't supposed to be a creative (propagandist) endevour and the usage of AI in fact safeguards the creativity of the actual writer and not some piece of shit who takes someone else's work and scribbles out the creator's name to claim it as their own.
>>724252953yeah, if anything the best excuse to not use MTL is to give it another year or two to get even better lol
>>724226710yeah if you put any thought into it he was right, the story just makes him act completely retarded about it so you don't question things too much
>>724252953niether the MTL or the human translation really pick up on anything beyond the surface level, thoughyou only have one real option
>>724252037>didn't eat them afterNGMI
>>724255251Can you really say you love your wife if you won't even eat her in effigy?
>>724250230>mistakes unwillingness for inabilityProjecting or double digit IQ? Call it.
>>724254559>yeah if you put any thought into it he was rightThere's always going to be weaker people who can't fight back about a stronger group, even among humans. Coexistence is about getting everyone to recognize the humanity in each other, and building alliances and institutions to reign in those who do not. Even ignoring the moral/philosophical dilemma in viewing all monsters as mindless, heartless beasts and starting a race war out of fear of what they COULD do, launching a full-scale race war and making an enemy out of every single monster (who are already considered to be so much stronger) is fucking stupid accelerationist horseshit and in the BEST case scenario will result in MASSIVE amounts of lives lost while achieving absolutely nothing of value.
>>724253907Maybe it'll stop mixing up pronouns when translated from Japanese by then
>>724256919Yes. The fallback for inability has always been to claim unwillingness. This has been a parable since ancient time. The fox and grapes fable is literally this trope. The way you talk reminds me a lot of that fox
>>724257142>what they could dolike 95% of the monster population already sees humanity as cattle/pets/food, if monsters truly cared about coexistence they'd exterminate the ones who can't behave, which is actually what Alice was gonna do until Luka stopped her iirc
you should have started learning nipponese while waiting for the final VN part
>>724226710this guy looks like a nortubel antagonist
>>724258739>this guy looks like a nortubel antagonistin what way?
>>724247747>hentai genejacks
>>724259303It's a bot anon.
>>724248515Hiruko is something else lol.
>>724260787not a bot, i just like nortubelposting.
bump
Ilias sex!
>>724245125This, Ilias feels a more novel choice if you already play the vn with Alice, writing aside. It's different for the late choice where choosing one gets to the other's world, so Ilias is the typical braving a world full of monsters and Alice is recruiting and fighting hawt angels but you play both anyway.
>>724264564Goddess Route does suck ass though, easily MGQ as it's worst, Monster World route is better although it's not a high bar to pass.
>>724264913That may be so but angels are hawt. The route where you fight angels is the one you fuck them and lots of oppai loli angels. No one wants to fuck Hiruko.
>lucy-chan's eventual fateSeeiously why
>>724226965>>724227227>>724228358>>724236594This killed the tardzaruscucks...
Whats a good part 1 girl to keep for endgame?
>>724265912the problem isn't the strength differenceit's that a significant number of monsters are hardwired to want to eat/dryfish/enslave people, and the rest of the monsters are covering for them like how jews protect each otherit's us or them
>>724266195Promestein
>>724266195mega evolved main charactersno random monster girl from part 1 survives the power creep
>>724266195In Part 3 new girls are massively powercrept. Maybe keep up El and Reina for buffs
>>724264564Judgement vs Breaker routeBetter companion- Ilias>AliceBetter enemy recruits-MW>AWBetter overall music-AW>MWBetter goofy trio-Seraphs>Lilith SistersBetter faction allies-Archangels>AncestorsBetter 4HK side story-Granberria>AlmaBetter invader plotline-Puppet Circus>B.Alice CosplayersBetter final villain-AW Ilias>Fat AliceBetter overall story-Judgment>Breaker
>>724248418Read Ted. To do away with power, you must use the power. Nothing inherently wrong about that.
>>724266574I will make Bunni a god killer, power creep be damned.
>>724226710Yes, because the player is a monster fucker, else he wouldn't play the monster fucker game, so monsterfucking good human chud bad.What's the fucking problem bitchnigger?
>>724247747I saw one of these guys at a fair for the first time recently and they really are insanely big. I've always been a city slicker, that was the first time I really ever thought a horse could get to the size of a truck.
>>724266195Orochi
>>724237543>have to break reality to beat herbest girl
>>724226710It turns out bombing some of the few monsters that really don't do much of anything didn't do him any favors. Of course, he really had zero reason to do that in the hands of a more competent writer either, it's not like there's an absence of targets outside of cities.>>724227423Angel world's mix of both massively accelerated aging for the Sams and using them as organ farms for the citizens after said aging makes them incapable of working makes zero sense if you stop to think about it for more than two seconds, the organs would be totally unsuitable for wholesale transplant if they were already actively failing.
>>724241425>I'm supposed to disagree with this?Yes, Shrift is Undertale but the author really, REALLY does not want you to go full genocide on demonspawn from hell going around and murdering countless humans either directly or due to their actions.
>>724232789>When have you ever seen terrorists attack any kind of authority that is actually oppressing and killing their people9/11Timothy McVeigh
i know nothing about this game. But if you just got strong you could fuck the monster. >b-buh i c-canti can
>>724267926He was doing that, we saw him getting angry at Marcellus for helping monsters escape by warning them before Ilias Kruez raided them.The organization pretty much became nothing, but a bunch of worthless ruffians afterwards, since Lazarus was a shit leader.
>>724248615What about all the protestant civilians who were murdered thoughever?
>>724237080>>724268153I'm very fucking tired of libtards writing stories where genocide is the only reasonable answer just to try to say that you can't do it because it's genocide. So what faggot, literally any action can be justified by context.
>>724266306>isn'tYes it is that was the whole point on his ackout
>>724268341This is what anyone'd do but the protagonist in this is a retarded little boy.Remaining on this note, it beats me how Alice has the courage to call any man a pervert like the tool shop guy in iliasburg that sells skimpy clothing when she dresses skimpily herself, most monsters are nude to begin with and they all rape children.
>>724268612>but the protagonist in this is a retarded little boy.That's more on him being an incurable masosub than only being a retarded boy.
>>724268558yes but if you think harder about it the reason the strength difference between an average monster and an average human is a problem is because the average monster girl can't behaveif they all had self control and wouldn't go around abusing their superior power, then it wouldn't be a problem, therefore the root of the problem lies with the monster girls being unable/unwilling to control themselves, not the fact that they're naturally stronger, that simply means that any solution is significantly more difficult
>>724268612>This is what anyone'd do but the protagonist in this is a retarded little boy.I see, he should get strong so he can be a retarded large man instead.
>>724268943He does, in the sequel.We have datamined profiles and sprites of an adult Luka. He probably is going to show up during the big update that adds the golden route.
>>724268837>men bad because men strong and violent and wahmen weakfeminist mindset.
>>724268837>wouldn't go around abusing their superior powerThey don't. There are a fuckton of roads with caravans and lone traders going to and fro, and in MGQ you can just get baptised and moster girls will ignore you because your semen stinks or something. Even in real world without monster girls your ass will get eaten/raped in some nutty putty cave thousands of miles from civilization. Most monster girls are either wild, so they don't care about humanity either way unless the forest where they live gets logged, or they are civilised and live in their village, again not caring about humanity as a whole, maybe capturing travellers that visit them at their own risk.
>>724268341Monsters are just naturally way stronger than humans, that said critical ecstasy goes both ways, so if a level 1 imp can beat Luka in the endgame there's no reason an average human that's actually competent in bed couldn't make a monster cum first and win that way
>>724269506no you fucking idiotwe don't have this problem irl because men have discipline and self-controlmonster girls and humans not only have a far higher degree of power difference than human men vs women, but they also have far less self control than men, therefore it is a massively larger problem
>>724269731>men have discipline and self-controlfeminists, and all statistics disagree with you
>>72424836895% of native americans died to uncontrollable disease, there wasn't some kind of methodical genocide because they were a potential problem. The Spanish and French actively converted and traded with them.
>>724269724yes just ignore the numerous crises that happen during the games, and how you get attacked by random encounters while travellingsee what I said about the monsters (and monster fuckers) covering for each other?
>>724269824niggers count as animalsall browns are honorary niggersthere your statics have been deboonkedfeminists are just attention whores and are on a quest for eternal problematic things so they can be safely disregardedstop with your beyond braindead comparison
>>724269987so you were just shitposting and have no real rebuttal, got it.>feminists are just attention whores and are on a quest for eternal problematic things so they can be safely disregardedzero self awareness
>>724269872Luka doesn't actually see that many random encounters out in the wild considering how long he was on the adventure. He was on the journey for around a year before he got to the ML castle.
>>724269824Feminists are retarded and no, the stats do not even slightly agree with you
>>724270337yes they do, men are 100x bigger rapists and murderers than women
>>724270151yes, accuse me of you yourself are doing, what a gigabrain play you came up withnever mind the innumerable bad ends luka can end with, none of those are real and monster girls are perfectly safe to be around, clearly my own eyes have blinded me for too long and I shall disregard my lying senses and believe you>>724270210and yet people disappear, trade routes get disrupted and monster girls randomly move into (perhaps once could say invade) settlements
>>724270541you're the one with the feminist logic here, not me. you just don't like it when the feminist logic is used against you.
>>724270668what feminist logic?monsters regularly kidnap people if they feel like itthe threat is very real unlike your oh so beloved example you try to use to discredit my arguments with
>>724270781yes same way feminists claim the evil men threat is realyou have zero self awarenessyou have low IQ
>>724270926you're just delusional faggot blinded by your love for murderwhoresyou may as well get a job at the cinema with how much you're projecting
>>724270416Not true for women, and more importantly, the proportional difference is irrelevant in the face of the actual scale involved. The vast majority of men will never even attempt to commit a serious crime and especially not against a woman (nogs being the only exception to this rule). By contrast, most of the monsters in MGQ are evil and profoundly dangerous. What's more, women are enormously benefited by the existence of men as a whole, where as humanity receives no benefit from the existence of monsters at all.
>>724271026you're just upset your logic is used against youyou are using feminist rhetoricyou're just as retarded as they areQED
Get a room you two.
>>724271094>>724270416Excuse me, meant to say not true for murder. Men do murder more than women but not profoundly more often.
>>724226710If he had a plan to actually eradicate the monsters or something, he would have been more valid, but he's just an edgelord doing edgelord shit.
>>724270926It's not the same because the feminists are just objectively incorrect
>>724271094>>724271158Again statistics disagree with you. The vast majority of rapes and murders are committed by men and not women.
>>724271225yes it's the same but you're too low IQ to realize itfeminists are also low IQso this only reinforces my point
>>724271125you have 0 (zero) arguments, you never made any counter-arguments eitheryou just yell >muh feminist logicwhenever someone brings up a point against your views and pretend you wonget an actual fucking counters to my point instead of repeating the same thing like a child
>>724271343I have statistics on my sideyou only have endless coping and projections, because that's what feminist logic can do
men are stronger and 100x more violent and bigger rapists and murderers therefore men EVILwomen weak and way less violent and murderous than menconclusionmen badwomen goodthis is the logic of a lazarustard, low IQ monkey with feminist rhetoric.
>>724271415so why don't you post any fucking oh so critical and btfoing statistic?you have jack shit, a bluffyou didn't do any serious research, you just pull shit out of your ass and hope it sticksI would take this argument all the way to 500 fucking posts, luckily for you it's past 12am and I'm getting tired of trying to get you to use your brainso get an actual argument or fuck off, murderwhore apologist
>>724271597literally look up any men vs women rapists and murders statisticunless you're so retarded as to claim women rape and kill more than men?
>>724268705Yeah Luka is a very had protagonist to relate to, it's made specifically for the Dev's snuff fetish because all his monologues thinking about how hot it would be to be murdered don't make sense to me.
Address these points or kill yourself1. Very few men pose a credible risk to women, while most monsters are evil and will kill you2. Men dramatically improve quality of life for women while monsters only hurt humanity
>>724271924Vast majority of sex scenes don't have the monsters kill you though.The human+monster towns actually developed better armies and overall quality of life, see Grand Noah
>>724269872What crises? The only situation even close to a crisis is Lady's village. Everywhere else humans either aren't in danger at all (Happy village) or in only slight danger (Succubus village). There are more crises created by humans themselves like in Witch's village or Grangold. You also ignore bandits and pirates that definitely exist and are just as massive of a threat to travelers as monsters are, but this is a monsterfucker game, not a banditfucker, so we don't get ambushed by humans every 5 steps. And then there's Remina, where humans were strong enough to defend themselves against wandering Hellgondo monsters that were constantly trying to destroy humanity for thousands of years if what you're saying is true.
>>724272146>Vast majority of sex scenes don't have the monsters kill you though.That's because "you" are a fucking freak that can survive experiences that would kill any normal human>The human+monster towns actually developed better armies and overall quality of life, see Grand NoahThese places are generally better off merely by virtue of happening to be near monster populations that are better behaved.
>>724272272>That's because "you" are a fucking freak that can survive experiences that would kill any normal humanNot really, if they wanted they could do it anyway but they don't in most cases>These places are generally better off merely by virtue of happening to be near monster populations that are better behaved.lmao retard doesn't remember grand noah monsters
If you don't include the monsters drawn by frfr then monsters aren't that dangerous
>>724272457meant un_do don't know why I said frfr
>>724251958Anon, Part 3 alone is probably as big as DQVII at this point, its gonna take more than 2 years.
>>724271680what the fuck are you even trying to say?yes IRL as in REAL LIFE indeed men (overwhelmingly from third world races) commit more crimes in general, including against women.How does this correlate to MGQ's monster girls kidnapping/enslaving/dryfishing/voring/killing men?This entire thing started with you claiming that men don't have discipline and self-control (>>724269824), but even with third worlders included, IRL men are overall far better behaved than mgq's collection of monster girls, most of whom are literally wild monsterswhat part of this has to do anything with real world crime statistics? apart from you shitposting about feminism?
>>724272457Powerlevel-wise, I'd guess it should be Shiki
>>724273021He's just strawmanning
>>724273021>you claiming that men don't have discipline and self-control>indeed men (overwhelmingly from third world races) commit more crimes in general, including against women.you just owned yourself>but even with third worlders included, IRL men are overall far better behaved not really>>724273125retard
>>724273407>no argument other than "nuh uh"I accept your concession on behalf of the guy you were actually arguing with
What are you autists even talking about
>>724273576Just your daily shitflinging contest move along
>>724273549The only thing you accepted is that you're retarded and owned yourself.
>>724273627i see
>>724273669yeah no fuck it, you're such a black hole of intellect I give updo you think men share a hivemind?
>>724273576Some retard thinks that monster genocide isn't warranted in MGQ
>>724274137So how do you cope with >>724236594
>>724274120>retard with feminist rhetoric calling anyone a black hole of intellectok IMAX
>>724274137But that would mean most of humanity in MGQ are retarded.
>724275019>no uget new material faggot
Tardzarus cuck still not beating the feminist allegations
>>724226710Because everything he did only managed to work against his supposed goals.
>>724275489>i fucking hate monsters and want everyone to know how shitty they are>I have an idea, lets bomb a fucking schoolgenius
>>724275727Not to mention, he only succeeds in killing and injuring humans, leaving monsters to have to rescue the human survivors of his attacks. Making his group look worse and monsters look better.
damn you faggots wasted half the thread with this
>>724276550Last thread was peaceful and quite fast tracking, guess some spergs took notice and wanted to shit it up
Why do HFYfags like to shove their nonsense in franchises whose message is about getting along with sentient beings other then themselves?
>>724276550Like OP like thread.
Here's a real argument:You only get to pick one girl and if you pick any other you get nothing and you and your waifu get fucked in the ass by the ugly bastard for all eternity.Your choices are:TAMAMOALICEILIASTHE SLIME GIRL WHO'S NAME I FORGETGRANBERIAALMA ELMASYLPHGNOMESALAMANDERUNDINE
>>724276550OP is a shitpost, why would the thread be any better? >>724276753I'm guessing they're retarded shitposters who either didn't play the game or just skipped most dialogue.
>>724276753I feel like this is more the trend of people being unable to understand that a person can have a point and still go about everything the exact wrong way.
>>724277042Granberia, easy
>>724277042Alice of course!
>>724277042Tamamo for life
>>724277042>THE SLIME GIRL WHO'S NAME I FORGETBunni?
>>724277213He is talking about Erubetie, since that description comes before the other Heavenly Knights are named.
>>724248418Should've been Koh
>>724226841s-sauce
>>724276550This shit is why I stopped visiting /mggg/.There's always one angry shitter with a bug up his ass about nothing, and he takes everyone with him. In my day we knew what not to do.
>>724277042Gnome. So I won’t have to deal with stupid women talking bullshit
>>724277042I'd have to put Ilias Tamamo and Sylph through a series of trials and pick the winner.
>>724276753Because the setting is asking for it>message is about getting alonggood oneIt's actually about submitting to a bunch of abominations and accepting cattlehood
>>724277042sylph onahole
>>724278558Either you didn't play the game, skimmed it, or forgot most of it.
>>724278558Take your meds, or play the game, preferably both.
any good fanfics about monster girl quest being genocide
>>724226710honestly the biggest issue with most media like MGQ is that they make all monster girl species "humans but better in every way"it's a pretty misanthropic world building with monsters being these magical demigods that can do anything they desire while humans are no different than their irl counterpart.made worse by the fact that the only reason luka is even able to do what he did in the story is because of "muh angel genes"
>>724278558maybe mge fit your taste better since it a hugbox world where monster actively restrain on hutring human after the monster lord brainwash literally all of thems so they could coexisted peacefully
>>724279828Humans in the setting can gain super strength and magical abilities. Laz was probably stronger than most monsters in his prime, and he doesn't have any special bloodlines.
>>724279828play paradox
>>724279086did he?i'd say his post is pretty accurate.luka admonishes and actively beats other humans half to death just for not liking monster girls.but then when those very same monster girls rape and KILL humans he sits in his cuck chair and comes up with excuses or trying to humanize themhe'll only actively antagonize monstergirls when they attack other monstergirls
>>724274756One person being strong enough to defend themselves against monsters does not mean that cohabitation is possible, nor desirable even if it were possible. Explain to me why humanity, if it can kill all the monsters, should not. They've done everything to earn it. >>724275120Yes
>>724279952replay the VN
>>724279828paradox tries to buff humans in paradox to proof lararus wrong but they still getting helplessly slaughter by monster and turned into sexslave anyway they should make more competence faction that can fight monster with out the mc
>>724279952I figure you are the same.He beat members of the Cruze, the guys who bomb buildings, mostly killing off other humans. Most of the game is him beating up monsters for abusing or killing humans. The only time he deals with a monster monster conflict is Plantsect where he nearly wipes out both sides.
>>724279828A washed up, super drunk hero without any armor or weapons beat the the shit out of 10-20 guards before they can pin him down.Humans can get super crazy strong in MGQ, but only the super talented ones can get through the giant turtle wall, and the super furry of Hellgondo.
>>724279918>>724279934>Humans in the setting can gain super strength and magical abilitiesDon't have time to play paradox because of college.but i remember the most that any humans not named Heinrich was able to achieve in the original story is beat a few mook monsters from part 2.im also not gonna count that king guy being able to beat a few angels because they tell his impressive superhuman strength is because his grandma was a high level monster (again. proves my point that they show normal humans as cattle fodder)
>>724280215>I refuse to educate myself, now listen to me talk out my ass
>>724280124>paradox tries to buff humans in paradox to proof lararus wrong but they still getting helplessly slaughter by monster and turned into sexslave anywaythat's honestly the weakest part about both games.you could tell there's a core for a genuinely interesting world and conflict between humanity and monsters combined with the divine and the mortal.but then every once in a while that gets ruined with the author's obvious monstergirl femdom fetish taking hold of the story and writing
>>724280215Funny enough, the heroes of the VN and early Paradox, are pretty shit, because they are not actually meeting any real adversity.It isn't until adventurers are facing a true risk of death, that we are seeing impressive heroes.
i don't play the game but are there are human hero that aren't heinrich or luka that are not completed jobber
>>724280215No, while this is more true in Paradox, this is a thing even in the original, it just isn't focused on. So it stays as more of a background thing. >>724280576Your average Adventurer is probably a lot stronger than your average Hero.
>>724280705
>>724227423>and doesn't actually suffer.>>724267926>if they were already actively failing.They're organ harvested ALIVE WITHOUT ANY PAINKILLERS just to give 60+ year olds new organs from some 50-40 year old.
>>724280705Not really.There are human characters you can recruit in Paradox, and NPCs that you can talk to that are described as being pretty impressive. But this is a franchise that only really has room for one hero, and that is Luka.
>>724280705I remember the explanation for a hero skill was that a blind guy killed an army and came up with the skill. so whoever that random background character was
>>724279980That's exactly what that means tho, that was the entire point of the hobo's ackout.
>>724280705A old maid you meet in Midas Village.She was a pretty amazing warrior in her time, having killed a queen class monster in single combat during her youth. She now is teaching that queen's decedents at being proper ladies.
>>724248418LoK was particularly retarded because it takes place after the industrial revolution. By that point non-benders should have access to guns letting them easily take down even the most powerful Bender. The plot should have been about preventing a non-bender violent revolution and ethnic cleansing but lol kid's show.
>>724280150>>724280336Told you the anti monster shitposter didn't even play the game.
>>724226710Should i play the original games before getting into paradox
>>724280409The whole game is a femdom game so like... yeah, no shit? It's for those of us who like sexy girls being dominant and stepping on us and things like that.I admit I could do without the vore tho
>>724281413One person being able to defend themselves against monsters doesn't mean shit when they just decide to go after easier targets, like their kids.If the people you love are at constant risk of getting murderraped by a species that revolves around preying on humanity, would it not be reasonable to at least ensure they'll never step foot where you and your loved ones live?
>>724226710He's right. Kill all monsters and demons.
critical ecstasy it the most bullshit concept that have ever conceive in fiction you could have the monster rape him after they won instead of giving human the middle finger in evolution>>724282115could remove snuff/souls drain/guro or any disgusting fetished really
>>724282252Isn't this that damn manga where a succubus is trying to rape by deception that exorcist and the witches skewer people?
>>724282416Critical ecstasy is something all beings are effected by. Even godlike beings can get knocked out by it. It's not just a male only thing.
>>724281413>That's exactly what that means tho,No, it doesn't. Peak humans being somewhat able to defend themselves doesn't make the societies compatible. Because most people are still not going to be able to defend themselves and most monsters are evil and lack self control.
>>724248723>We have that where it’s a monster boy and you fuck and consume women for power.Salsa pls.
>>724282252Most monsters prefer to go after stronger targets, actually. Generally, Monsters prefer strong men, though each is her own person with her own preferences and priorities.
>>724277042I'm going to Alice
>>724282252You didn't even play the game, the majority of monsters don't even kill people, let alone the people in human towns.
>>724282443It's even worse than that.>demon lord of lust brainwashes a bunch of human women and forces them to try to rape him when he was twelve>five years later, he's tasked with being the bodyguard of a girl haunted by the same demon lord and slowly falls for her>but she actually IS the same demon lord that tried to rape him who's pulling a long gambit to get him to feel lust for her so she can rape him>picrel is after she reveals her disguise, proceeds to try to rape him, and then gets BTFO while he's about to go on a rampageIt's fucking grim. If he were in any Monster Girl world, that world would fucking end.
>>724282712Yes it does, and in Paradox world coexistence is proven even more. Again, this is canon and my position is unassailable.
>>724282759NTA but ravager is one of them
>>724283197>Yes it does,No, it doesn't. The vast majority of people are not capable of reaching peak human capability even with great effort and women and children will always be vulnerable. You still also have not answered the question of what humans gain from monsters. Why would coexistence even be desirable? Why should we want anything less than total monster death?
>>724283278The one where you play a dragon?
>>724283881Do dragons not count as monster boys?
>>724284078Yeah, but this isn't an monster boy, this isn't even furry. You're a literal dragon, I'm not down with bestiality ,.
>>724283190is he that powerful or what
>>724283874Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harm.Seriously anon, what is up with you?
>>724284402>because one of them could cause harm.Not because one of them could cause harm. Because most of them actively want to cause harm and many of them actively do. Also them being sentient and choosing evil is worse than if they were "merely" some kind of deterministic evil force. They could be better but just aren't. And then they trick retards like you with false cries for sympathy.
>>724283021Miss Tamamo steals boys away from their village during the night
>>724283874Well, the two wealthiest cities and the wealthiest port have a high monster population, and their prosperity is attributed to the monsters living with them. Monsters engaging in work and commerce do wonders for a place's economy and standard of living, it seems.
>>724268269>9/11
>>724283021Succubi do, though, don't they? That's why they need to all die.
>>724284715>Also them being sentient and choosing evil is worse than if they were "merely" some kind of deterministic evil force.I mean sure you could argue that in theories but that doesn't matter terribly much to people experiencing it.
>>724285010Not really. MGQ succubi are not any worse than other species. The collab brought with it the worst succubi imaginable, but that is another issue entirely.
>>724237080This made me download this shit just to play it and kill all the enemies. The only playthroughs on youtube are horribly disjointed and narrated. No matter the game, if I have a chance to genocide anything that doesn't look human and is doing obviously bad shit, I'm going to pick the option.
>>724283874>what humans gain from monstersSee Grand Noah, aka play the game. retard
>>724226710What game is this dude from?
>>724285367The retard hasn't even played the VN you think he played Paradox?
>>724237080>Those lights are shining with the fused souls of us and humans...!>If you burn them... you'll burn the souls too!So the monsters literally did pic related with souls and they're supposed to be the good guys?
>>724286432Not really because of intent. Those are mass produced retards by some bitch god that thinks it's a funny prank to make dumbasses that basically commit suicide for their idea of love
>>724284239Do goblins count as monster boys?
>>724237080>>724240349Why does he look so girly? No wonder he's so angry.
>>724237080>>724241425>>724268153>>724241796>>724285537Something that baffled me is that the maker of the game genuinely doesn't understand why the Monsters in Undertale are Forgivable, but his Demons aren't. And he got pissy that people didn't see it his way. (He made Genocide harder and harder to finish to the point of being nearly impossible to beat the final boss. The latest Extras aren't playable if you did Genocide, and they feature characters basically belittling people who enjoyed the Genocide Route.) But let's list some key differences.>Most monsters you meet haven't killed anyone.>Nearly every demon has killed several.>Monsters need to kill a few humans to get out of the Underground; they've killed six.> Demons have killed off most of the human population, for the fun of it. >Most monsters back off when you show them you're chill; the ones you befriend are remorseful.>Few of the demons show any remorse, and a few still try to murder you after 'befriending' them.These are the three big strokes of the issue. And explain why many people think they should be killed off.
>>724285367Who is the worst? Est? Why is she so bad?
>>724287272Anon, are really asking that question? You don't know who the worst of the collab villains staring the Succubus Prison bitches is?
FACT: If you did not get into an h-game with the intention of masturbating, your opinion on the story or characters literally does not matter.
>>724287158>>Nearly every demon has killed several.That kinda is debunked by the mass amounts of unfused Lampas and birds. Even some of the eviler ones can be forgiven since they've only killed members of an evil organization that wants to rule or end the world.
>>724287636I had the main ones in mind when I said that. Also I don't think that second bit is true.
>>724287746For what's confirmed Nina has only killed MOW members unless they're dicks enough to be full SCP and get randos for their suicidal work. I was also thinking of Titanoboa but now that I post I forgot that she's part of the original myth and don't remember that either.
>>724275489>>724275727>>724276124Monsters deliberately propped up a violent idiot so that they could have him do something like this and create an opportunity to make themselves look like both the victims and heroes. It was done specifically so that the actually intelligent anti-monster humans can be smeared into failure by simple association with Lazarus.
>>724226965>why did you kill simps and not the titty streamers?>>724227227>maybe you should kill the outside monsters and not the ones that infiltrated societyNigga you start at home then work your way out
>>724228016Name 3 things wrong with the museum.
>>724236594>dude just don't fight your oppressors
>>724288554>dude just die for no reason because you wanted to feel cool instead of actually devising a plan for survival
>>724243923The EX chapters were amazing imo
>>724288732EX2 was my favorite. It had Mormo, it had shotacon Lampas, and it had that one out-of-body experience which was really cool.
>>724284402>Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harm.But we have done that before, multiple times I believe. The Tasmanian Tiger being a prime example.
>>724287385No D:I don’t know anything really. It’s why I asked. Est was the final boss of the collab so I assumed she was the worst
Fuck I just wish it worked on Joiplay>download from F95>won't work>look it up and you need a specific RPGMaker plugin>download RPGM plugin 1.20.70 for Joiplay>game loads>everything works>get into fight>jap text when first enemy attacks, game instantly closes with an error message>do some more digging>for no reason whatsoever, F95 has version MGQP 3.01 on the thread's opening post instead of the more recent 3.06 with Bob 0.22 or whatever>download proper 3.06 version (the 2GB version and not the obnoxiously oversized 8GB version since I have no idea why it needs to be that big)>game works, enemy attack text is in English>game still instantly gives an error and closes when the first slime attacksAnd if that's not bad enough>MGQP REQUIRES use of the virtual buttons or a controller and can't be controlled using touch as basically a mouse like EVERY OTHER RPGM GAME ON JOIPLAYFuck me, maybe I'll just skip this shit and stick to looking at the pics in the game's image folder before writing it off entirely.
>>724289182play on PC like Ilias intended you fucking sperg
>>724279934Paradox buffs the shit out of humans between makina existing and the extreme amounts of mana spewed into the world from Heaven's destruction.
>>724289042Mormo a cute but for me EX4 was an amazing ride. That said, the fairy duo are two of my favs from the game.
>>724289308I want to play it on the go. I don't play porn games on any screen bigger than 6 inches, it's just my way.
>>724265426This, her design is too generic human to be a proper scylla monster
>>724269728>critical ecstasy goes both waysNot to the degree that it effects human males
>>724289672What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>724226710
>>724271924>Men dramatically improve quality of life for womenThat was only true up until the point women were allowed to work jobs and get paid the same as men, now men are functionally useless in society.>>724277042>Yao not on the listGuess I'm dying alone
>>724290068If it was completely hopeless then that would be one thing but literally everything works right up until the enemy attacks. I even grabbed a full save out of spite just so I could look at scenes since the game was being uncooperative and that's been fine so far. I wish I could play the game normally but oh well.
>>724279934Paradox had to massively buff humans because otherwise it would be impossible to argue against Lazarus but even with the buffs it's repeatedly shown within Paradox itself that a vast majority of humans, even with military training and the best equipment the kingdom can provide, are completely worthless in a fight against monsters and get overrun while putting up little to no resistance.Every single dev who attempts to pull off a Monsters and Humans setting and push grey morality completely fucking drops the ball when it comes to power balancing between the two. Lazarus is objectively correct and there is a mountain of evidence between MGQ and Paradox backing up his stance.Thankfully most people don't actually give a shit about the plot and they just play MGQ for the monster girl sex or Paradox for the amazing team building/customization.
>>724290068Indian blood requires Indian version(android).
>>724290163Men still do all of the actually important jobs
>>724279828>"humans but better in every way"MW proves that they are only better physically
>>724280886Sams don't feel pain
>>724279882is it brainwashing if they were born with love in their hearts? How can you tyrannize something that feels no pain?
>>724282416>critical ecstasy it the most bullshit conceptWhat lorefags love to forget is that it's a porn game and so much of the setting is just there to justify the dev's fetishes
>>724290452>Sams don't feel painSure thing Sub-Ilias.
>>724287158The thing about Shrift is that it tries to take the message of Undertale and put it into a game where it doesn't work on a fundamental level. To add to your point even the strength of humans and monsters are reverse, to the point where even one human kid can basically kill all the monsters in the underground by themselves and the monsters where force to be there by the humans, leaving at least some form of pity for them. I'm honestly curious on the creator's interpretation of Undertale if this is how he applied it to his game.
>>724288593human outnumber monster so you has that as an advantage
>>724283021What's funny is that the majority is just monsters raping people and leaving them which totally fits in with /v/'s views that rape isn't a big deal whenever women irl bring it up but now that it's happening to pretend men in a video game suddenly it's a big deal
>>724284402>Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harm.Wasn't there some big thing that happened around the 1930s or 40s?
>>724284402imagine monster as jews and you have the answear
>>724288343>children and babies are "simps" nowThis is your brain on antimonster retardation.
>>724290693Ignore that. Also ignore what happened to the Neanderthals.
>>724287158Shrift haters forget that demons are ordered to kill everyone under threat of torture and death from a literal god who can do pretty much whatever she wants without consequence and only kneels to her mom who is also a god
Paradox should have just been a direct sequel set in the VN world during early stages of trying to implement coexistence between angels and humans and monsters instead of this pseudo-actual sequel FF7Remake nonsense.
>>724290301I can tell you haven't played Paradox considering you don't know coexistence was already a thing in the main world.So you're still canonically and objectively wrong.
>>724290370Like giving birth?
>>724290308Android existed long before the anti-indian craze, but go off.>I don't like it = it's indiannu/v/ doesn't even try anymore.
>>724290593>monsters raping people and leaving them which totally fits in with /v/'s views that rape isn't a big deal whenever women irl bring it up but now that it's happening to pretend men in a video game suddenly it's a big dealYeah it's just pure hypocrisy
>>724287158Undertale monsters are forgivable because the story and the fandom at large didn't want to focust focus on the children that they murdered, something that remained the case for years until Yellow came along. Let's not forget what Undertale monsters did.
>>724290468mge og monster are murderwhore that are ontological evil that only exist to thin out human population by chief gods till mamono lord break the cycle if she died they all reverted back to murderwhore
>>724291151>MGE monsters were brainwashedHey...we don't talk about that.
>>724284402Cheetahs are nearly extinct because the local british imperials thought they were a pest animal to be shot on sightYou think that an entire class of animals who evolved to actively predate or parasitize human beings wouldn't be on the immediate extinction list if we could get away with it?
>>724291151>monster are murderwhore>all reverted back to murderwhoreWeren't a whole bunch of them male before?
>>724284402>Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harm.Not only are we exactly that, we've actively done that before, many times at that.
>>724290583That anniversary thing threw some new light on that.Also, no, I don't feel pity for them. Fuck the Undertale monsters, those bitches have been killing kids and Toriel isn't getting shit for an excuse given her big problem was Asgore being a bitch who didn't go through the seal to murder more people when he had the chance.That whole "Oh you're so horrible for fighting back and killing monsters who are trying to kill you, little child who ended up falling down there!" is just bullshit.
>>724290593>>724291103>/v/'s views that rape isn't a big deal whenever women irl bring it up Just making shit up
>>724291243>>724289064>Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harm.>brings up tigers and cheetahsYou might want to work on that reading comprehension of yours.
>>724291301didn't we already kill all other human species as well as fuck the neanderthal who are basically a better version of us to death
>>724291243You mean mosquitoes? We unironically have our thumb on the detonator but we choose to let them live because they're part of the ecosystem. If MGQ proved monsters served some worldly purpose then these discussions would be vastly different but as it is humans are just a short-lived species that exists as pawns of Ilias and food for monsters. Slave species for both superior sides.
>>724291338>deniallol
>>724291338Welcome, newfriend!
>>724291151Dragons explicitly weren't and every other monster with a mortal lifespan has been dead for hundreds of years.MGE mamono have been monstergirls for more than a thousand years, if its not an immortal who has lived more than a thousand years they're not guilty of any Evil Army or BBEG crimes
>>724291373I think you need to go back to school.
>>724226710Which he is, of course.Why do you bring it up?
>>724291032Like making all the buildings and food and vehicles and power
>>724291434>>724291452Nobody does or will believe you, roasty
>>724291394>We unironically have our thumb on the detonatorNot really and even being cautious of the downstream effects we're still working towards population reduction methods by making them breed only males, the issue is those genes breed themselves out of the gene pool in a handful of generations.>>724291357>>Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harmYeah, that's shit you said and obviously doesn't apply with a certain scale or attitudes. We destroyed the american bison just to fuck with the indians, human beings who are being actively hunted and killed by abominations without conscious will immediately seek to kill those things.
>>724291308Not saying you should, but that it would make sense that some people would and it's not like all of them are equally responsible for each human kid's death (though admittedly Toriel should got at least a little bit of backlash for not really doing anything after six kids died) also what about the anniversary? if your talking about that stream they did almost a month ago that one part of it because it added quite a bit.
>>724291718uncanny valley effect are human evolution that have strong revulsion toward thing that almost human so i don't think monster will get any sympathy much
>>724272189>succubus village>slight dangeranon they were going to resurrect their queen with the explicit intention of turning all men into breeding livestock.>but they werent gonna kill them, just kidnap and them and keep them as slavesmonster-apologists rest so much of their worldview on the notion that the threat of physical harm is the only negative impact that monsters could ever inflict upon humans. If orochi kidnaps and mindbreaks you with pleasure for a year thats ok because she didn't actually harm you. The men with families in happiness village who were kidnapped? No big deal because they weren't killed.Also you forgot about Alma Elma's sea storm that embargoed the Ilias continent (the one in the south east) and sunk who knows how many vessels. I'd count that one as a crisis>You also ignore bandits and pirates that definitely exist and are just as massive of a threat to travelers as monsters areIt's been a minute since I played, but is this actually established in any dialogue, or are you just assuming that it MUST be the case because it just HAS to be true
I wonder what kinds of cool and varied designs the 6 ancestors will have!>human girl but green>human girl but slippery>human girl but with clothes on >human girl but black and white>human girl but mummy bandages>human girl but fluffy tailLiterally only Saja fits the idea properly, the rest are so lazy especially in a series with so many unique designs.
>>724291840I mean I'm not terribly interested in hearing Sans try and guilt trip me over the phone given he seemed perfectly happy to watch plenty of kids die, so why the fuck does he think he has any right to lecture me if I just focus on myself?What, someone not giving 100% suddenly isn't reasonable when his brother ends up still stuck underground because of it? Cry me a fucking river you lazy skeleton monster.And yeah I was talking about that stream.
>>724291248Pretty much none alive. I'm sure there's some 2 millennia old vampire who's going to wake up very confused but at the same time at that point its basically an Helsing Alucard situation and he probably pretended to be a girl half the time just to fuck with people.
>>724291676>newfaggot doubles downLMAO
>>724291718That wasn't my post but I'll repost his line again>Humans aren't deranged psychopaths that want to exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harmRead it carefully.
If you don't like that most monsters don't need semen and only rape for fun and because semen tastes good despite the fact that they could eat normal food then you're a hypocrite if you still eat meat irl
>>724291676>"roasties must be here" he said on the r9k gooner board for vidya, "with ai, you could make any picture you want"
>>724292561Rape isn't fun though, lovey-dovey hand holding sex is way more fun
>>724292727How human of you
>>724292638LMAO
>>724268548yeah
>>724292264But what in particular were you referring to that threw new light on what? Where the monsters actually stronger then we though? (not including Gerson)
>>724292796Well maybe they shouldn't look a solid 75% human if they didn't want to act like it
>>724277042>all these replies with zero responses to themwow great argument here. Turns out that there's not much juice to squeeze out of a waifu debate for a 10+ year old game. After all this time, it's debates over the setting/worldbuilding that persist even though one side is definitively correct while the /vg/ waifufaggotry discussion is dead (except when OP has a foxgirl)
>>724292257>human girl but with clothes onYeah i don't think John Carpenter's the Thing aka Hiruko can be classified as human
>>724292561Correction: No monsters need semen in the MGQ setting. It is extremely nutritious for them, however, except for the monsters who can't feed on semen.
Neris "daddy dick obliterator" Fateburn
>>724226710They totally can!
>monsters should respect human rights because.......THEY JUST SHOULD, OK??There is literally no reason for them to do so. You just want them to because you're a human.
>>724291357Clearly you don't know much about the Tasmanian Tiger, they were literally hunted to extinction because they could cause harm. They were blamed for causing the death of cattle that were actually caused by wild dogs. This led to a bounty being placed on them and they were hunted to extinction. They were quite literally exterminated and I am using your own words here.>"exterminate an entire species of sentient beings because one of them could cause harm."The Tasmanian Tiger is a prime example of just that exact thing happening.
>>724292910Humans look like monkeys.
I want to be raped by Hecate.
>>724293006I'm just saying visually
>>724280150I think Luka's issue with cruze is moreso that they are harming progress towards coexistence. he still doesn't like them killing humans (I don't think he likes conflict in general as evidenced by plansect) but I think the former is why luka targets cruze as a story requirement. If the worst part about cruze was just that they kill humans from time to time, taking out their headquarters would just be an optional stop on your journey (not unlike lady village, whose problem was just that they were killing people and being mean).>Most of the game is him beating up monsters for abusing or killing humans"""Reforming""" monsters by sealing them. Great strategy there I sure hope they aren't too hungry when they wake up. What's that? you've killed a dozen travelers before me and tried to murder me too? Just a slap on the wrist for you, naughty monster. now think about what you've done
>>724293346That's a child.
MGQ1 gave me a vore fetish.
Luka would kill you if you refused to coexist with Kanon.
>>724282969>Generally, Monsters prefer strong menyou really need to replay the game that you are talking about (or just play it in the first place). all the monsters like luka so much because of how meek and submissive he looks.
>>724293542I disagree; he went to that town where people were outright enslaving monsters and didn't lift a hand to do anything about it until the monsters started attacking their slavers. In which he fought the monsters. Most monsters aren't killing people, and keep in mind, most of Luka's enemies think he's trying to kill them until they get sealed. Besides, I think sealing would be an effective punishment for most. It takes away the thing they put the most pride in and forces them to know what it's like to be helpless and/or rely on the mercy of others.
mgq give me Teraphobia
>>724293304Aye, and? Sex should be fun recreation, you start integrating rape into the genepool and you get human women
mgq give me tamamo dreams 13 years later
>>724293807Alice outright says that monsters prefer strong men. It's also implied in-game, and word of god says, that the quality of man's semen is tied to his strength and vice versa (This also explains why no warrior tries becoming a eunuch, as doing so would make him much weaker)
is kenkou still doing encyclopedia? wonder if there's a mountain of goodness to catch up on
>>724290593>/v/: women are incentivized to lie about sexual assault because everyone will automatically believe them, thus allowing them the power to ruin men whom they don't like and silence dissent against them>so this means that anons want a lamia to unbirth them so long as she lets him go before he suffocates
>>724294024Last I checked, he released one new girl every 3-4 years
mgq gave me a lolidom fetish
>>724294067I mean, if she's offering and all.
>>724294024Most recent release was pale rider iirc. I think most of the newer monsters have been good adds but there are a few mehs in there. He's mostly been at work in the game (coming out soon™ ) and setting guides
>>724293247If we aren't following human morals, why are we not killing all monsters? Or, what, are we supposed to accept they get to benefit from us being moral but then not also have to act according to that morality?
>>724294081an anthill of goodness...it's still goodness>>724294134a game sounds good too, now that I check there's some new violated heros out...yummy
>>724293927I think that there is an awful lot of shota sex that contradicts that. The mermaid who uses magic to keep her lover in his weaker, childlike form (despite this causing immediate complications for their engagement), Orochi who does not demand the "strongest warrior of Yamatai village" every year rather just takes whatever they'll offer (despite having the power to get whatever she wants), and the succubi who want to turn humanity into livestock for semen (certainly not the pinnacle of strength)
>>724294408It's a general preference; monsters are still individuals with their own specific tastes. There's a monster who says she likes Hunks, and there's one who says she likes older men. On top of this, they aren't picky, they're always horny, and even low-quality semen tastes good to them and is nutritious. Also, MGQ works on anime logic; someone's strength has little to do with their physical appearance. Funnily, other monsters consider that mermaid to be weird. I don't recall the exacts, but there's a line from Alice in the original where she expresses disdain after seeing what her husband looks like, and in Paradox she's outright treated like a werido. But don't get it wrong, it's not because she fucks little boys, it's because she prefers little boys.
>>724280124tanya my beloved
>>724293810>Most monsters aren't killing peopleI think it's fallacious to consider physical harm/killing as the only negative externality that monsters could impose upon humans see >>724292239>sealing would be an effective punishment for most. It takes away the thing they put the most pride in and forces them to know what it's like to be helpless and/or rely on the mercy of othersThere was a little bit of this glimpsed in Lady village where that small scylla (Emily, I think) was instantly overpowered and killed by the larger scylla (Cassandra, I think) when she outlived her usefulness. I think that a minority of monsters would be capable of this kind of reflection. How are red slime or mantis girl going to come to any kind of remorseful conclusion if they are practically animals who just want food/sex? Like I said, sealing them only makes them hungrier for a rebound when they wake up, and incentivizes them to target an even weaker man for a higher chance at a successful hunt.Don't make a mistake and anthropomorphize these beasts (they are called monsters for a reason). They will not think twice about stealing you away from your family and your life the second that they get hungry enough (and they are more than capable of doing so). I think this is best evidenced by certain epilogue scenes at the end of the VN, where, even after every monster acknowledges Luka's status as their savior who believed in coexistence when no one else would, they still hold no qualms over kidnapping him and keeping him as a sex slave for the rest of his life (i.e. the vampire, lamia, and dragon lolis)
>>724292881Mostly that it seemed the fight wasn't so onesided? Gerson IIRC talked about how details had been left out.
>>724293542>whose problem was just that they were killing people and being meanBut enough about monster girls in general
>>724294370Because you're a infinitely worse murdernigger. then
>>724295247
>>724293807They like Luka and they do try and have as much fun with him as they can but that doesn't mean they prefer him, in fact they usually look down on him for being weak and a quick shot
>>724295285The criminal is the murdernigger seething at every single monstergirl in a femdom porn game.
>>724294370I'm just saying that from a monster's point of view, there's honestly no reason to coexist except maybe to shut humans the fuck up about it when they start whining about unfairness and suffering and whatever
>>724295319murder implies innocence, which monstergirls are not, baka
>>724294958>they still hold no qualms over kidnapping him and keeping him as a sex slave for the rest of his lifeThey were quite literally given express permission to do so from a Heavenly Knight
>>724295394Any murderfaggotry can be "justified" if you're mentally ill enough.
>>724295314>>724294869>they usually look down on him for being weak and a quick shotyes but they like looking down on him in this way. It is their preference for a man to be pathetic, weak, and beneath them in power. Maybe I'll concede that individual monsters have a preference for certain bodytypes, but the common taste amongst all of them is to be the dominant, not the submissive
>>724294958So suddenly it's not only about killing but any kind of offense like "the monster looked at me the wrong way"? Yeah that's feminist logic right there.
>>724295451>They were quite literally given express permission to do so from a Heavenly KnightI was so waiting for this argument. Again, you'd think that they'd have enough respect for Mr. Coexistence "I fought god so that we could live in peace together" not to look for the first excuse to kidnap and enslave him. So what if tamamo gave them permission? Luka is a friend and hero to them, but lol that means nothing apparently if they are hungry enough. You would not use this defense as a serious justification for anyone else's actions so why would you here? then again, tamamo is really scary
you are talking to a shitposter anon pls do something else
>>724295770It was consensual sex since the creator said Luka was aware about the test.
>>724295738kidnapping, enslaving, mindbreaking with addiction, laying nonlethal eggs inside of or upon. None of these are as serious as killing, but does that mean that they are at all preferable?
>>724295861You have to go out of your way to get most of these things. Same as real life actually.
>>724295558>but the common taste amongst all of them is to be the dominantWhich is why they prefer strong men, it's more fun to them to break someone stronger.
>>724295836well it is a porn game after all...but imagine if it weren't for a moment and we didn't have to rely on external convolutions to justify the actions of monstergirls. What would you say about the situation then?
>>724295770Luka has an actual rape fetish.
>>724295985Rest assured, these things will become increasingly more common as Luka gets his wish of coexistence
>>724296017Even if it's not a porn game you still have to go out of your way.
>>724296059Not really since Paradox world proved that wrong.
>>724294958Well, monsters do have a notable lack of self-awareness, but they are capable of introspection and change. And while there is a degree of blue and orange morality, like the concept that something that feels good could be all that bad, not connecting in their minds, once again, it doesn't go as far as you're making it out.>>724295558Yes, they enjoy being stronger and in the dominant position, but they would gladly try to bag a man that is stronger than they are; hell, they seemingly don't even mind being raped by a guy. Like if they attack a man and he turns out to be stronger, they treat being raped by such a man as fully acceptable.
>>724296017>but imagine if you hadn't eaten breakfast for a momentIt is a porn game and everything about the games will always be tied to that no matter how much you try to hold it to non-porn game standards.
>>724296059>>724296210Based on what we see in both settings, the average monster, angel, and human get along more and more over time. This is usually only interrupted when someone powerful decides to stir the pot.
>>724295780I mean the OP was a shitpost from the start, the entire thread will obviously be a big shitpost.
On the one hand, epilogue monsters le bad because they keep Luka. On the other hand, it says a lot about Luka that after having several canon sexual encounters and romantic moments with Alice, he never tries to go back to her after being taken by the epilogue monster girls.
Alicebros, is our monster lord......the worst girl?
Nice family you have there iliastards LMAO
>>724296210Oh, you mean in the setting where people are much stronger because of magic? go figure>>724295997It's been a while for me, but I only remember this prominently with Alma Elma and Granberia who both want to test and fight Luka throughout the story. I don't think your everyday monster has anything to prove against the average man in the strength department>>724296217>they are capable of introspection and changeI think it is much more likely that their base desires and temptations will overpower their reason when push comes to shove. It is also highly dependent on the administration of the queen/monster lord at the time (whether or not they respect humans or will actively intervene to check monsters who are harming humans), which gets back to the central point about power imbalance>hell, they seemingly don't even mind being raped by a guy. Like if they attack a man and he turns out to be stronger, they treat being raped by such a man as fully acceptable.Not that you are all the same poster of couse, but now I'm being told that my femdom rape game is actually a maledom rape game?
>>724296598Grand Noah also exists so your argument is invalid.
>>724296397The game overs often fuck with the image of Luka, he gets a crumb of pussy and drops his lifelong goal.
>>724296397Says a lot about tamamo too. She really took all of that fox-teasing personally eh?
>>724296646>those guys irl who sell literally all their hobby shit because pussyhaver told them toHonestly probably realistic
>>724296642>the coliseum town where womens' self esteem has been so thoroughly rekt by monsters' superior sex skills that they cheer for men to be overpowered and raped as a beloved public spectacle>this is a healthy example of human/monster coexistenceah yes, how silly of me
>>724296875I guess this doesn't sound too good for homosexuals like you.
man i love when zealot done right
>>724289158The Succubus Prison characters are by far the worst.Most other characters were bad because of the setting they were in, and tended to chill out when it a setting that killing wasn't so required. The Succubus Quest characters are in a dream world who need to eat people to survive. Once they arrive in Paradox, they're capable of just eating standard food and so don't mind switching over at all. They're pretty broken (since they're immune to physical damage) and could probably take over a lot if they tried, but they're fine with chilling out and just having fun. Est is the final boss because she's just immune to anything that isn't a pleasure attack, making her tough to fight.By contrast, the Succubus Prison characters just want to trap and eat as many people as they like, and they didn't really chill out once they got to Paradox. Vinum is also very powerful, far stronger than most other characters in the setting, so they're pretty much free to do whatever they want. While they certainly COULD get curbstomped, the only characters who could are currently busy with the whole world-collapsing thing and so they're mostly free to just murder whoever they like.There are some other characters who just stay irredeemable asshole as well, such as Parade Buster's Musette, but she's just not strong enough to really be a factor. Hell, she's hiding in the Snow Continent after the collab because most of the high level stuff in Paradox was going to kick her ass otherwise.>>724290972>Paradox should have just been a direct sequel set in the VNGood news! Pick the Ilias route and enjoy where the story leads.
>>724296921>likes to be dominated, used, and then discarded>calls others homosexualbut seriously tho, grand noah is your example of human society benefiting from the presence of monsters? Coexistence seems to have really hurt the relationship between the sexes, which is not healthy for humanity
what the fuck did mammon mean by this
>>724226846>>724226967My favourite thing from part 3's release are the monster simps who argue Angel world is worse over at the vg Monster girl game general.
>>724297109The place where monstergirls are actively helping human economy and help with the army? Yeah much better than being a homosexual raging at girls.
>>724297152>muh economicsliterally the only potential benefit from superpowered/flying/swimming monstergirls. Comes at a cost though, that's the point
>>724296598There are plenty of monsters who are more loyal to themselves or their home than to their species' queen. In paradox, you even see monsters who live in human towns express that they don't know or care who the monster lord is, and in the original, when Grand Noah gets attacked, the monsters are going "For the queen," in reference to the human queen of Grand Noah.Like, I'm still feeling it's more complicated than you're making it out to be.
>>724297307Homosexuals being eradicated is not a bad thing.
>>724296924>the Succubus Prison characters just want to trap and eat as many people as they likeWhich is why I love them. They're so unapologetically evil.
>>724296353Objectively and canonically right
>>724297350Breeders deserve disease and famine.
>>724297350Cool bro, can I get your name on the signup sheet for the lamia unbirthing party? You're not gay, are you?
>>724297401Why do you hate your parents so much? Get that shit treated.
>>724297417Where does that happen in grand noah though?
>>724297325>when Grand Noah gets attacked, the monsters are going "For the queen," in reference to the human queen of Grand NoahThere are a couple of weak arguments here: I could say that this is a self-serving action on the part of the monsters (protecting their easy access to males) or that the invasion from heaven was the big threat of the day and unification under the same banner was a necessity for survivalRegardless, I still stand by the point that monsters' sensibilities/hungers are liable to change on a dime and this is something that requires strict regulation in order not to get out of hand. I'll concede that the setting doesn't explore this much so my argument is relying heavily on theory, but it is a porn game after all...>>724297485You sound like a homosexual lol. I think you are looking for >>>/lgbt/ it's that way
>>724297445>you need to love your parents no matter what because.....you just do
What about monster boys
>>724297965Killed on sight. Homos are not part of the succ agenda.
>>724297715>no uSasuga shitposter-kun, you have no answer because grand noah triggers you.
>>724297807You're mentally ill.
>>724298225The irony
>>724296924In their own game the Succubus Prison girls only kill like 6 guys a day which is nothing if we're to believe it's actual earth, and their whole massacre in Paradox was because of Est's alliance. Est basically summoned all these girls and even was attempting to make Paradox part of a dream world so honestly she's pretty much a worse person on a cosmic scale rather than a personality test.
>>724298326I don't hate my parents, mr IMAX.
>>724298428This. Est is doing something bad on purpose, the prison succs are just acting in accordance to their nature.
>>724298539Not hating your parents does not exclude you from mental illness
>>724298787Better than hating your parents for whatever schizo reason.
>>724298837>whatever schizo reason.The absolute state
Fitting shit thread for a shit OP.
>>724298927...of subhumans who hate their parents
So now that this is the end of the thread and the dust has finally settled.Is the game good or not?
>>724299151it's ok
>>724299031Keep sucking the penis of your father, cuck
>>724299216Your gay fetishes are getting very specific, subhuman, is this the result of hating your parents?
>>724299250It's pattern recognition based on your posts
>>724299296The pattern recognition about your gay fetishes? Weird
This subhuman not only hates his parents but also has homo father-related fantasies in his head lmao
>>724299151It is.
>>724299151VN sure but it's mostly just a storyParadox? Depends how much you like Job class games like some DQs FFs or Bravely Default. If you don't love them you'll get filtered by Part 3.
>>724299331>>724299401>seething so hard you need to reply twiceI won.
>>724299481Second post wasn't a reply though, but you're too mentally ill to think straight so yeah.
