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>decide to buy and play legends za
>it's actually fun
>check /v/ and /vp/
>everybody hates it
Not sure if just contrarian or did the anti-Nintendo/Game Freak rhetoric really poison anon's ability to think for himself?!
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>>724234080
>4chan
>being right or able to think for themselves
lol
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i like it too but i cant watch any videos about it because everyone is screeching so fucking hard
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>>724234080
Tbf, they did downgrade the catching mechanics (if you are not close enough to a pokemon the ball just goes through them) and they removed the link cord for trade evolutions even though you could get every pokemon in PLA without making a single trade.
I'm still enjoying the game though.
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>>724234080
>>it's actually fun
You can have fun with any pokemon game.
But looking at it objectively its just the same thing but worse.
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>>724234080
For some reason normalfags now HATE any Pokemon game that they can't take pretty pictures in. Sword and Shield are fucking abysmal to play but that's fine because it looks nice. SV and ZA are fun to play but BAD because of performance issues.
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>>724234080
yea dude i'm having a blast its a true return to form for pokemon
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>>724235849
this but unironically
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no cute and funny pokehebes, no buy
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>>724234080
>Not sure if just contrarian
It's contrarian to have standards this low, Anon.
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>>724234793
You'll find le grafix are the only thing numbskulled zoomers care about
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>>724234080
>fun
I bet you probably think it's fun to stand there and watch trains go by all day too huh?
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>>724234080
I've been discussing it on /vp/ for about a week and most people there like it.

>>724234692
You only absolutely need to do three trades since the other trade evos can spawn as alphas, though you need five trades for all the research tasks. Either way, people have set codes up for all of them and I got them done in no time, though a french asshole scammed me by trading me a Slowpoke without King's Rock so I had to buy another and trade it again. It taught me to always check at least.
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>>724234080
I enjoyed it but by the third wave of Rogue Megas monotony really sets in with this one.

>3 new rogue Megas have appeared!
>return to Hotel Z for a S-S-S-STRATEGY MEETING LADIES!
>fight the three Megas
>find the next rank up boss
>I can’t fucking wait to fight you but get out of my sight until you get 30k tickets
>go collect tickets (this is the only time where fighting in the Royale will contribute toward this requirement, don’t bother during any other step of the loop)
>fight the boss
>3 rogue megas have appeared!

Not to mention if you try to quash every side quest along the way, a dozen more crop up suddenly like a hydra. I was doing every single one and around Rank C/B I gassed out seeing the map fill up yet again.

Doesn’t help that postgame is lacking. It’s just completing the dex, and there isn’t even a dedicated shiny method like outbreaks - just cheesily running back and forth around certain wild zones to force spawn them. Shiny Charm’s also locked behind a thousand fucking random trainer battles on top of that requirement. I’m not terribly interested in battling up to multiplayer Rank K for a mega I don’t even want nor do I have any real reason to use; on that note, why fucking give me a Fennekin early on and then lock Delphoxite behind a future multiplayer event well after anyone who gives a shit will have finished the game?? Gamefreak as a company baffled me with both their incompetence and conscious decisions like this or forced Exp All which are just actively hostile to the players for no reason
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>>724237068
>You only absolutely need to do three trades since the other trade evos can spawn as alphas, though you need five trades for all the research tasks. Either way, people have set codes up for all of them and I got them done in no time
I know. But it still sucks that they made trading necessary when it being completely optional was one of the main aspects of PLA.
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>>724237540
>forced Exp All
You were so close, too
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>>724237540
>this is the only time where fighting in the Royale will contribute toward this requirement, don’t bother during any other step of the loop
Not true, you can get your ticket at any time during that rank's story arc, including before you're told who your promotion battle opponent is. The game even sometimes acknowledges if you do it early like Corbeau commending you if you already have the ticket when the match is set up.
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>>724234080
>op having shit taste
>op surprised not everyone has shit taste
lol, lmao even.
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>>724236794
Hmm...
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>>724236794
>trusting reviews
Most of the people there didn't even play the game. They're just super anal over nintendo like fags here in /v/
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>>724234080
I mostly like it but the team building is really strange, you're just flat out locked out of a lot of mega stones until extremely late and it feels like shit if you're playing blind. I wish they made it so you had limited resources but could choose to get a mega stone of any of your mon in the order you desired
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>>724239730
It was so easy to me that I only used the mega feature on the first rogue mega, the whole game can be beaten with without that feature
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>>724237068
>The designated gamefreak dick sucker board likes it
Noooo way???
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Developers have realized that all they need is some basic character customization, a foto mode and a couple poses for infinite free social media marketing.
It's all it takes to keep the average zoomer happy, especially females, as both care more about sharing screenshots on their feed than playing a videogame.
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>>724234080
How could anyone hate such a cool game?
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>>724240780
Nice screenshot, anon
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>>724234080
So true fellow marke- anon! ZA is a return to form.
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Is the godawful pop-in an emulation thing or is it this bad for paypiggies too?
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>>724234080
>it's le fun
No wonder GameFreak don't give a fuck about improving this garbage franchise, retards will eat anything, I hope gen 10 is $80 + DLC
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>>724241408
That's what games are meant to be. Fun.
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>>724241408
>"I like this game because it's fun!"
>/v/:
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>>724241408
I mean goifreak have somewhat improved on animations and keeping the framerate stable on S1 but lets all ignore that because the building textures are flat or whatever
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>>724241408
>Immediately proven right by multiple drones who will continue to lap up gamefreak's shit
We need a purge or retards like these
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>>724242014
We don't sign our posts here.
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>>724242014
Who's we?
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ignore the samefagging schizos
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>>724237613
>when it being completely optional was one of the main aspects of PLA
Only because the game had no online functionality
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>>724234080
It's a good game. The last few Pokemon titles have been turning things around after years of trash.

It could be way BETTER, to be fair, but a lot of people don't make their own opinions and are either riding the outrage train or haven't picked up on the improvements.

t. Didn't buy generations 6-9.
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>>724237846
I couldn't imagine not maxing out the ticket whenever the sun went down. The royale becomes a really good source of cash too in postgame. I do wish that there were more reason to refight the Rogue Megas or that they had online co-op rogue battles to add something more to do with others than the Battle Club.
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>>724234692
These two things are really gay, as is the game skipping ranks and telling the story poorly.
>But 25 ranks at that speed would suck!
Then speed up the ranking process for the early game.
>But you get those other 15 ranks in post game!
It sucks there because you already finished the story.
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>>724244274
Sometimes I gave priority to catching night spawns in Wild Zones and doing sidequests at night so I wouldn't always get the next promotion ticket right away.
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>>724234080
It looks like the only fun Pokemon game in decades, but I'm not buying Nintendo hardware fuck that.
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I played Pokémon for the first time in 12 years, and it's really fun. I honestly don't get what people are complaining about.
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>>724244456
I mean you can play it on an emulator. Legends ZA is not S2 exclusive
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I was debating if I wanted to get ZA or DQ 1+2 remake and I can't decide. I don't want both because I don't want to play two turn based games one right after the other. I might be leaning more towards ZA since the reception is actually positive for it
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>>724244675
Well if it helps, ZA isn't turn based. It uses an active cooldown system.
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>>724244862
really? well that changes my mind. maybe I'll just get dragon quest then
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>>724244559
>I honestly don't get what people are complaining about
Grafix bad
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>>724244675
DQ1 and 2 aren't actually DQ1 and 2. They're new games wearing their skin.

Hope this helps you decide if you're interested or not.
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>>724234080
>>it's actually fun
No it's not. It's a shitty fetch quest sim where you do three rogue megas, get a ticket, do a promotional match and repeat. The targeting system sucks and you can only switch targets with the janky right stick camera movement or by spamming zl like a retard. Nothing matters since you're just gonna be spamming moves like a retard and all your shit comes off cooldown when you ko a mon during anything that isn't a rogue alpha, pvp or the wild areas. Speed doesn't even affect your movement speed, but it only works as cooldown reduction. The game plays like a sharmart version of xenoblade 2 or something.
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>>724245931
no that just made me more confused desu
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>>724245842
Why is it impossible for poketards to hold a single thread without someone posting literal uncensored porn? You fags are the only """fan"""base on /v/ with this problem.
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>>724237540
I reached rank K online in like 20 minutes
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>>724246025
1 changed the battle system from 1 V 1 to 1 vs up to like 5 enemies. The combat is completely overhauled and rebalanced around this. 2 adds a fourth party member and changes the game content and balance extensively as well.

They're remixes. New systems and progression dresses up like the old. Like if FF7R didn't have the time ghost bullshit.
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>>724234080
It's an extremely loud minority who doesn't even like Pokemon. They just hate Nintendo
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>>724246162
I haven't played pokemon in like 5 years so I'm not exactly sure what's different now desu. last I remember was that it was a turn-based rpg
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>>724245942
>spamming moves like a retard
Unlike the mainline games? ZA is just a fast paced version.
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>>724234692
The catching mechanic is my biggest gripe with the game. It was so well implemented and intuitive in Arceus, so it's a great shame they neutered it in Z-A. Sniping flying Pokemon from 20 meters away mid flight was so good in Arceus.
The link cable item was a result of Arcus not having online and the purpose of the game being catching all Pokemon. No surprise it's not available in Z-A, thought they could've made it a very rare item, or something
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>>724246576
So I can outspeed and oneshot everything with a tyranitar just by standing still in melee range in the mainline games?
>ZA is just a fast paced version.
No, it's just xenoblade but shit.
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>>724246778
No, in mainline games you'd have to one shot those Pokemon with your Tyranitar one by one.
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>>724241581
>>724241626
I have fun watching shitty movies, that doesn't mean those movies are good. Fun and good aren't the same thing.
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>>724246880
The chances are that a random garchomp would just earthquake me first, but here we do it at the same time and I have more hp.
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>>724247004
So, it works exactly like the mainline games but faster.
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>>724246971
why would anything else other than having fun matter?
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>>724247173
No it's like xenoblade, but it's shit because you just spam a button and wait for the animation that sends the next mon out.
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>>724246971
>I have fun
Yes that's what Pokemon players are doing. Not sure about Snoys though.
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>>724234080
Wtf is that? Stupid anime faggots. Anime gfx=bad game. End of story. Name a single game with anime gfx considered good outside of it's intended audience of neet otaku faggots and trannies. Just a single game
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>>724247306
No its not, Xenoblade works completely different, this is just the combat of the mainline games in real time, aka no turns.
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>>724234080
is this another PLA where every pokecoper will tell me "errmm actually is really fun and innovative this time" and then I play it 2 years later when i'm bored and turns out it was dogshit anyway but nobody even cares to defend it anymore because they have moved on to shilling the newest thing
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>>724247482
The wild zones, pvp and rogue megas work like xenoblade where you just spam moves on cooldown and avoid shit by running away like in an mmo. The regular battles are basically like the mainline stuff, but shittier because the stats basically don't matter and faster move animations have a huge advantage. The game is a huge downgrade overall because even the day/night cycle in z-a has unskippable loading screens.
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>>724234080
I want to have incredibly ravenous animalistic breeding sex with canari but the rest of the game sucked
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>>724247705
Since when have stats mattered outside of PvP?
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>>724246971
Why is it a bad game? Anything about nintendo "being le evil" and the palworld lawsuit is irrelevant btw
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I haven't played more than like 5 hours after buying it at a big discount.
>every area is samey looking in the one city you're stuck in
>combat feels clunky as fuck due to pokemon having only one orientation they must reposition to if they're using like half of the moves in the game
>don't even get ride pokemon or a bike or whatever when even X and Y like two decades ago had Gogoat riding and roller blades; you just get ladders and also hololifts, which are just faster reskinned ladders

Game feels like a step backwards in every way from PL:A aside from performance, and I don't even give a shit about most building features being ugly flat textures painted on.
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>>724247557
Yeah, it's basically Arceus but you don't even have a mount/skates to pad the time because you don't need to catch 10 same pokemon to fill in an entry anymore. The map is copy pasted garbage compared to PLA.
>>724247869
Since I can one shot every fast sweeper throughout the story with a slow tyranitar and there is nothing stopping me from doing it.
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>>724248030
the player pokemon AI having pretty much zero context sensitivity is a huge pain yeah. A lot of moves are pretty much unusable, same with mixed attackers since repositioning is a huge pain and ranged attacks being nerfed in general. I do enjoy the game well enough but it requires accepting that you should only use tanky close range fighters with a single tanky special attacker. lopunny with two elemental punches, iron tail and close combat will clear the game for you. That bunny can just keep punching harder and faster.
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>>724248052
I haven't the switch games but isn't tyranitar usually a post-game monster. It evolves at something like 50 andI'm pretty sure there wasn't a way to get it before the league in the first 6 gens so to say it sweeps the story seems off when it would be after the story you get it.
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>>724248480
it's accessible relatively late but you do end up in the 70s before the end in modern games due to Exp All
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>>724248480
I got an alpha larvitar ealy-ish on a rooftop. I used the free alpha gyarados from wild zone 2 before evolving my alpha larvitar.
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>>724248052
Yes the 3 time Worlds Champion Tyranitar is a pretty good mon, anything else?
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>>724249096
Who said it was bad? The problem is that you don't get punished for anything in this game. You just spam buttons like a retard.
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>>724248647
Oh right rooftops, I was just thinking when it unlocks on a wild zone. A bit silly since I spent multiple days early on to get an alpha dratini from the roof of Le Nah. It's okay though I'm never evolving to the ugliest final evo.
>>724249234
it's a pokemon game, if you want challenge this isn't the franchise for it.
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>>724249234
>you press buttons
Yes that's how videogames work, anything else?
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>>724248052
>because you don't need to catch 10 same pokemon to fill in an entry anymore
But now you have to beat 20 shitmon fodder trainer to rank up

It's a retarded shitty game, all of the praise that hte game is getting is completely dishonest. No wonder that the faggot shills always throw the muh antinintendo/gamefreak rhetoric or muh youtuber opinions
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>>724234080
I'll copy and paste my feelings about the game after finishing it, here it goes.

Ugly and lazy graphics, somehow even easier and more braindead than mainline, status moves are useless, 1 (one) boring ass city with places that look identical, you get only 1 (one) shitty movement upgrade, no bike, no riding, no voice acting, walls of retarded text, boring ass quests which give jackshit as rewards, everything and everyone heal your team all the time, you skip a lot of ranks the game can't even stay true to its system, shiny rates are up the fucking clouds making them feel less special, every trainer has at max 3 pokemon and all of them are weak, oh but watch out for the important trainers those have the whopping amount of 4 pokemon, you will be disgustingly overleveled just from normal gameplay expect to 1 hit kill 90% of the teams you find, mega battles are impossible to lose you have to TRY in order to lose, the game doesn't have Sceptile, Blaziken or Swampert even if those have megas, the game showers you with (useless) money and items, you will have dozens of revives, pokeballs and strong healing items etc, no rival to speak of, neither a villain team nor antagonist, I shit you not they try to make loan sharks the good guys and on top of all that there is no real postgame content.

The hate is perfectly justifiable, and if you think that I enjoyed the game just because I finished it then you are wrong, I finished it in hopes that it will eventually get good, but it never did.
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>>724249494
All false btw.
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>>724249583
Post your team (lv 70ish), right fucking now, as a proof that you finished the game, otherwise go fuck yourself because you didn't play the game.
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>>724249294
I caught it on some rooftop around zone 2 right after the zone 8 unlocks for an alpha gible if you soft reset the spawn.
>basic risk and reward mechanics are too much for z-a
Okay buddy.
>>724249465
>But now you have to beat 20 shitmon fodder trainer to rank up
Yeah, the goypass missions are aids. I beat the game, got the alpha metagross and just quit the game. It's just mmo chores and the combat system is bad, so I'm not doing that shit.
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im just sad i cant get my favourite pokemon in za
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>>724234080
She's cute though!
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>>724249494
>Ugly and lazy graphics
true
>somehow even easier and more braindead than mainline
eh about the same
>status moves are useless
burn is still good because it's now the only way to permanently do stat debuff that matters
>1 (one) boring ass city with places that look identical
The city was fine but gets worse the more wild zones are added throughout the game, the city should have allowed them to make it more dynamic with NPC dialogue and worldstate but >effort
>you get only 1 (one) shitty movement upgrade, no bike, no riding
I never missed movement upgrades and even the glide I didn't really care about since roll sprinting off of rooves was more than enough to do most platforming.
>no voice acting
Still jarring yes though I played muted a lot anyways.
>boring ass quests which give jackshit as rewards
sidequests were hit and miss, most battles were literally just excuses to give hold items, a few were cute like the froslass you helped out in main story giving you a dawn stone.
>everything and everyone heal your team all the time
true, I liked turning down that one girl and the three star restaurant was pretty good.
>you skip a lot of ranks the game can't even stay true to its system
true
>shiny rates are up the fucking clouds making them feel less special
can't confirm if they cranked the chances up or if it's just seeing so many pokemon so quickly.
>every trainer has at max 3 pokemon and all of them are weak
same as mainline
>you will be disgustingly overleveled just from normal gameplay expect to 1 hit kill 90% of the teams you find
same as mainline
>mega battles are impossible to lose you have to TRY in order to lose
true
>the game showers you with (useless) money and items, you will have dozens of revives, pokeballs and strong healing items etc
same as mainline
>no rival to speak of, neither a villain team nor antagonist, I shit you not they try to make loan sharks the good guys
True, I wish I could have become the badguy with my wish.
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>>724249939
>basic risk and reward mechanics are too much for z-a
too much for pokemon in general
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>>724250289
So basically you agree with me on everything, we are on the same page then, the game is a massive fuck-up.

Pokemon has officially become the potential man of vidya.
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>>724249792
Toxic is one of the best moves in the game. You didnt play it.
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>>724250772
There is no need to use toxic on anything if you 1 hit kill everyone.
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>>724249792
NTA but check out my pokeymans
>>724250558
mostly yeah, I don't really have any expectations from the franchise.
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>>724251036
Post video of you one shotting the first Pancham.
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>>724237713
Close to what you baboon? I was referring to Gamefreak’s choices in general e.g the forced Exp All in (I think) SwSh onward.

My bad on the point that other anon pointed out regarding the challenger tickets. This doesn’t wholly invalidate my point that the game is a repetitive slog. Not one bit
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>>724251112
Post a video of you using toxic on the first Pancham.
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>>724251326
So you can't?
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>>724250772
>Toxic is one of the best moves in the game.
Agree, poison is cancer. The side quest restaurant had poison spam and you would either sac mons for it, or you could avoid it entirely with properly timed fly, bounce, etc.
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>>724251198
Nta
He means your post was mostly reasonable but when you complain about EXP all it instantly makes you look like a retard because most RPGs work that way and the ones that don’t have mechanical reasons for doing so that Pokemon doesn’t have
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>>724251365
Neither can you, retard.
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>>724251383
dragonair with safeguard and dragon rush was great there. Timing a bounce to dodge an ice attack always feels good.
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>>724251454
So you lied. I accept your concession.
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>>724251452
pokemon is the one game that had a mechanical reason NOT to do it, most RPGs will give exp to your entire party because you fight with all of them at once, but more importantly, why even get rid of a toggle that is completely optional and is the closest thing to enabling hard mode?
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>>724251487
I lied about what? Read my original post again, here I'll make it simple for you by quoting it "expect to 1 hit kill 90% of the teams you find" the Pancham fight is in that 10% of fights which is while you still don't have any supper effective move to 1 shot it with.
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>>724251909
>>There is no need to use toxic on anything if you 1 hit kill everyone.
This you?
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>>724237948
i bet this nigga didn't even touch the digimon game either
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>>724251873
>most RPGs will give exp to your entire party because you fight with all of them at once
Most modern RPGs your reserve characters level up even if they don’t battle because otherwise it becomes unreasonably difficult to change up your party, an issue that Pokemon shares in the early gens and resulted in little kids using the starter almost exclusively.
>the closest thing to enabling hard mode?
Why would Gamefreak want to entertain “didn’t beat the game” autism in a game for toddlers
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>>724251979
Go ahead show me a webm of you using toxic on that Pancham to show how it is viable, oh wait, you can't because you can't get the toxic move in the tutorial.
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>>724249494
You're ugly
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>>724252135
Show me where i said you can use Toxic to beat every mon in the game :)
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>>724234080
anti-nintendo is trendy among e-celebs right now
and /v/ gets its personality from e-celebs
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>>724234080
>Be a stupid fucking surface-level headline reader
>Dont look into any of the threads for reasons for opinions, just look at the first post
>Assume (because you didnt care to read into the threads you saw or discuss beforehand) that the only possible reason someone could hold the opinion is for only superficial reasons
>Make this thread calling everyone "contrarian" for not liking it

4chan is a fucking shithole with extremely stupid users.
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>>724252314
More specifically anti-Japan is being pushed by Jewish social media algorithms
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>>724252209
Ah, so you are accepting that toxic is useless then, I accept your concession, also before you say anything I never said you will 1 shot every mon in the game, work in your reading comprehension.
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>>724252457
Always so easy to spot and debunk the anties.
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>>724252391
>fell for it again
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It's worse than Arceus Legends and the only part that I enjoyed was customizing a qt slut trainer whore
Currently at rogue mega gauntlet at the end of the game and I'm beyond tired of the game, haven't touched it in days

tl;dr; it's shit

>>724251452
My entire party is 20 levels above the enemies thanks to fucking forced expshare. Do you know what those other RPGs do? They balance the fucking games around the expshare. Hell, other games such as SMT, which is also a monster taming franchise, go hard on EXP scaling, you barely get any exp at all if you're overleveled. Meanwhile my entire party goes from level 70 to 73 after fighting level 50 shitmons in a rank up night
While a game like Dragon Quest reduces exp gained the more party members that you have alive and deployed (literally how fucking gen 1 expshare worked btw), nu pokeshit awards you free exp out of nowhere, giving you 0 reason to not have 6 mons in party at all times (meanwhile it's an historical even if an enemy trainer shows up with more than 3 mons lmao)

Niggers that try to justify the forced expshare using other games have literally no fucking on what they're talking about
If you want to fix pokemon's expshare then do any of the fucking following:
1. Have an option to disable it just like how gen 1 6 and 7 did
2. Make it work like in gen 1 2 3 4 5 where it actually SHARES exp instead of generating it out of thin air
3. Heavily reduce exp gained so you get like 1 exp max while being massively overleveled
It's that simple, until then, pokemon's expshare is fucking dogshit. Even romhacks with their unlimited candies key items managed to balance something that outrageous thanks to level caps.
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>>724252423
>it's the kikes pushing the narrative that z-a is shit
Based kikes? Shame they didn't do it for the first legends game too.
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>>724252523
I get my kicks checking the retarded arguments schizo cultists like you use.
>you can 1 hit kill 90% of pokemon
>b-b-b-but what about this tutorial fight?!?!
lmao.
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>>724252758
Don't even bother replying, the pro-nintendo schizo(s) entered the thread and are samefagging
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>>724252076
>Most modern RPGs your reserve characters level up even if they don’t battle because otherwise it becomes unreasonably difficult to change up your party
pokemon was never unreasonably difficult unless you have some sort of mental deficiency, and they had systems to help with leveling up
>Why would Gamefreak want to entertain “didn’t beat the game” autism in a game for toddlers
what is this retardation that you have created in your head to justify shittier games
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>>724252076
>Most modern RPGs your reserve characters level up even if they don’t battle because otherwise it becomes unreasonably difficult to change up your party,
Good thing that pokemon doesn't suffer from that since you can just catch a new overleveled party member
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>>724252607
>was only pretending to be retarded
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>agp trannies hate the game
more reason to pick it up
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>>724236794
>this game is bad, look at this score from review bombers
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>>724234243
Fpwp. Keep your faggy opinion to yourself
>>724234080
Same to you now post more porn faggots
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>>724252938
Absolute schizobabble when got caught on a lie lol.
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>>724244196
I love how the autistic mindset compels you to think not buying a video game for children is a flex
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>>724241408
You've been saying that since Sword and Shield and every subsequent game has been better and more ambitious than the last
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>>724251909
but you didn't say "90%", you said "everyone"
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>>724234080
People blindly call everything shit in the hopes that companies constantly try to make better games next time
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>>724253282
Guess you have the memory of a goldfish.
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>retards are STILL whining about expshare
Buytard only issue. If you're a piratechad then just disable that crap. I hope that the guy also releases an option to completely disable exp gain since that's the correct way to play pokemon

>inb4 NOOOOOOOOOOOO POKEMON IS TOO HARD FOR ME AND I CAN'T BEAT A BABY GAME UNLESS I AM SEVERELY OVERLEVELED
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>hmm my starter is getting lots of levels should i keep using it which i dont like or do i go catch a new one from the hundreds of available mons
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>>724252783
hello rabbi
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>>724253269
>post more porn
You asked for it.
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>>724249234
No fucking shit, its Pokemon, this franchise has never been punishing outside PvP, the only exception was the Battle Frontier.
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>>724234080
I just wanna crank my hog to the waifus

Whether or not the games changed over time they were better off a memory, but from what I understand now it's less about the independent journey and more about being handheld around by a very forward narrative.
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>>724253708
Yeah I did, now I will save it and color correct it. Thanks bwo. This is all pokefags are useful for.
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>>724253375
>since Sword and Shield and every subsequent game has been better and more ambitious than the last
I know that you're just shitposting, but saying something like that when BDSP exists, is simply low effort shitposting. Do better
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>>724253540
Why are you playing the baby game in the first place?
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>>724253708
What case is she solving here?
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>>724253878
BDSP let us shiny hunt Arceus so that was an upgrade over Gen 4.
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>>724253878
Wasn't made by Game Freak.
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>>724253663
I did that. I'm still overleveled. What do?
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>>724253889
Acquiring a DNA sample of course
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>>724253697
The Arceus game sucked too, bro.
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>724252758
AGP gooner retard post, not worth reading or giving a (You). Probably stole that screenshot from one of its Discord groomers or kittens.
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>>724253874
>color correct it
insecure much???
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>>724253960
BDSPshills have literal brain damage
>hurf durf game good because i can reset 4000 times for pretty color :)
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>>724253386
read >>724249494
"expect to 1 hit kill 90% of the teams you find"

Pokefags have 0 reading comprehension
>b-b-but you said everyone!!!
By the time you get access to toxic you will be 1 hit killing everyone given that you use super effective moves as you should, why would you wait for a pokemon to get damaged by toxic if you can just blast it to hell with a damage move?
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>>724254131
That's what collection games are for. Collecting.
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>>724253540
This retard loved the BW anti-piracy
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>>724254048
I accept your concession
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>Hmm I can't refute this list of valid criticism but...uh oh, did you imply heccing TOXIRINO isn't a good move?? heh I almost had to accept the slop I paid for is garbage. Got'cha buddy!

Every new Pokemon game dragging the no standards having pokefaggots out the woodwork is a treat as I enter these threads and laugh my ass off

Pokefags are truly subhuman lmao
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>>724234080
It's a collectathon. It's "fun" because your dopamine flares up when you see Pokemons running around and your impulses are telling you to catch them all. Combat sucks dick because GameFreak's still thinks people like the shitty soulslike mechanic from Arceus, requiring you to keep juggling between moving your player out of the way and giving orders to your pokemon. At the same time, your dumb Pokemon keeps retreating to a position nrar you before firing off a new command. Catching is somehow worst than Arceus, no free throws or any mechanic that makes sneaking worthwhile, also catch rate barely increases in red HP state, makes catching these fuckers harder than it should be. KO state only have ONE try. On top of that, they made shiny much more common (and even easier if you grind the research rank). This entire genre of monster collecting RPGs, attracts and manipulates its players using the same dopamine rush mechanic that gacha games does. It's why most of it has only borderline passable gameplay. Not saying you can't have fun with it, I had fun too. But we have to have an honest discussion with this genre and why most of them sucks dick. Even the new Digimon game is at best, a passable modern JRPG.
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>>724254065
No, Emma must be brownerer
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>says valid criticism
>look inside
>all lies
hmm...
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>nintenigger
>can't explain why a game is good, only mumbles fun
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So who the fuck stole all the shit from the lourve?
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>>724254317
based
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>>724234080
>game made for NPCs and retards to enjoy
>why does everyone hate it I'm having fun!
Anon.... I don't know how to break it to you, but...
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>>724254384
a dark-type
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>>724254206
Yep, playing BW1 blind without the AP patch was peak pokekino for me

>mfw constantly changing my entire team before every gym
>mfw checking every single new route for new encounters
>mfw actively searching for ingame trades since they're unironically good at the time you get them

Definitely better than an A button mashing simulator where all you do is 1 hit ko everything
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>>724254384
Starts with N and ends withe ers, can you guess the pokemon?
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>>724254331
>only mumbles fun
Yes.
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>>724254243
>You've refuted my list of garbage criticisms, so instead I'm going to focus on another post and ignore you to pretend I've won
Less than subhuman behavior
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>>724254243
Dumb Narutard is making Pokefags look good.
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>>724254631
Weird that you didn't post another niggerdick, poketranny.
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>>724254243
>no standards
Bro you read Nardo like a woman and dress like a woman in your games, get the fuck out of here with your talk about "standards" and go dilate
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>Snoys literally have 0 idea what fun is because they have 0 games
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>>724254642
That was another anon who understands how much of a schizo retard cultist you are, actually.
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>>724254749
First, rent free. Second, you're a retarded schizo. Third, take meds.
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>>724254862
Your headmates don't count as other anons.
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>>724254938
Dilate.
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>>724254331
>Snoy
>Can't comprehend a game being simply fun because the only thing he's played is over the shoulder cinematic experience revenge porn with trannies, gay parades, lesbians and bigot sandwitches
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>>724254938
Bodied that freak.
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>>724254195
Show your Spinda collection tard
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>>724255006
>poketranny saying that
erm, acktually it doesn't count when nintendo does it
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Is this the hourly pokefag humiliation ritual thread?

Reminder that Palworld sold 30M and that 1.0 releases next year so that we can reach 50M.
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>>724255000
Wasted trips on a "femanon" reminding himself that he'll never look like his "qt slut" Trainer
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>30m free gamepass downloads
epic
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>>724255115
>N-no, y-y-you!
You lost.
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>>724234692
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xngBF-sWsLg
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>muh tranny
>muh naruto
>muh snoy
>muh goypass

What other boogeyman will they make up next?
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>snoyschizo enters the thread
>suddenly unrelated palworld seething occurs
IM NOOOOOOOOTICING
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>>724255147
>players
lol
lmao
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>>724255147
Digimon's out, there's no point in pretending to like Palworld anymore.
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>>724255082
Work in progress my man!
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why are all the city slickers in lumiose depressed? how did we go from
>i like shorts
to this?
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>>724255267
Palworld isn't even a
>snoy
game, it took months for it to release on the PS5. Why are you faggots so fucking insecure?
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>>724255205
>Wasted trips on a "femanon"
Shut up faggot tranny and keep seething about my get.
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>>724254967
>NOOOOOOOO EVERYONE WHO SHITS DOWN MY THROAT MUST BE THE SAME PERSON IT CAN'T POSSIBLY MORE THAN JUST 1 PERSON NOOOOOO!!!! AAAAAIIIIIIEEEE NINTENDO POKEMON GAMEFREAK DO SOMETHING SUE THIS MAN!!!!!!!!
lmao
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>>724255347
Talk to anyone actually living in Paris
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>>724255317
I like both Digimon and Palworld.
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>I like both snoyshit and snoyshit
You don't say!
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>>724255357
Snoys don't even play their own games, they just jack off to anything that can be used as ammo against the competition. Palworld and Digimon posters have not played the games.
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>>724234080
Grifters see Nintendo and Pokemon as woke-aligned, so they’re futilely trying to bring it down.
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>turn the poketroon cultists thread into a shitfling
You are welcome, fags.
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The incoherent melties just show that the game's succeeding
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>>724255626
>Snoys don't even play their own games
This but tendies instead. Literally everyone shit talking the game has posted their endgame save file. Meanwhile all of the shills are just yelling infantile boogeyman shit
Like (You)
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>>724255670
>Lucario on the team
>didn't catch them all
Opinion discarded
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>NOOOOOOOOO IF A GAME ISN'T ON MY HECKING SWITCHERINO THEN IS SNOY!!!!!!!
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>>724255804
I won't subject myself to such a boring and meaningless thing as to "catch them all" (btw you can't even catch them all, the game doesn't even have the full dex lmao)
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>>724255804
>how dare he put a fast movement animation mon on his team
retard alert
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>>724255347
it's an incredibly accurate depiction of paris.
You as a tourist step out of the train station and a dark-type steals your shit, a woman scams you into following her which ends up with you fighting someone. By the time you get your shit back it's night time and the woman reveals that actually the entire city is a fucking PVP zone when night falls and you get immediately attacked by four people who don't even care that you aren't part of the fights and you have to fight your way through to your hotel. By day you realize that everyone in france is a philosopher suffering from ennui.
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>tendies cry about how snoyshit is just cinematic shit and yet this fucking game doesn't stop shoving cutscenes down my throat
At least it's true to the gen 6 experience
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>>724255804
>didn't catch them all
not him, but it's impossible to catch them all without paying nintendo for online features, which is retarded if you ask me
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>Someone enjoys nintendo game
>the usual schizo shits up the thread
Why does this always happen?
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>>724252982
You’re twisting words, this isn’t about the difficulty of the game as a whole it’s about the difficulty of getting a new party member up to speed vs the ease of simply using your current Pokemon which is already strong
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this thread needs to relax and post more pokegirls
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>>724256256
>Someone
Pajewts aren't people

>>724256326
>SAAR SAAR INITIATE THE DISTRACTION COOOMER DUMP PROCEDURE
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>WHAT!?!?!?! SOMEONE IS TELLING ME THAT I'M EATING SHIT!?!?!?!? IT MUST BE *GASP* 1 SINGLE PERSON EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!
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>>724256214
It's basically gen 5 onwards with the handholding. The whole game is like a tutorial and it took a while until they even let you roam around somewhat freely.
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Yeah, he's fuming!
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>>724253960
you can already shiny hunt arceus in gen 4 you dumb faggot
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I don't know what the fuck is going here so I just gonna post a Gwynn's pic.
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>>724256390
you must be a limpdick then
sorry for your loss
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>>724256625
False.
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>>724256625
Nta but you can’t without hacking and it’s flagged as a cheat mon if you do
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>>724256627
>>724256636
>shut it down with waifuspam
Pathetic faggots.
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>>724256665
False.
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>>724256502
I don't know the tutorial was pretty long but at least it ended. I think the last handhold thing was the brief moment when you get given the glide after which you get to go anywhere again.
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>>724255771
Here's my actual endgame screenshot where I got way farther than everyone else ITT. I thought the game was great but has its slew of problems.
>Roof parkour is fun but a little janky, though giving you too many movement options would hamper the urban exploration
>Toxic is actually broken because you can just land it and run around
>Ranged moves feel bad to use
>Aegislash is legitimately horrible
>The writing is actually pretty humorous, and the characters are much stronger in writing than X/Y
>The customization takes the stupid shortcut by giving both genders the same wardrobe while not expanding options men would actually want to wear so it's really lopsided
>Enemy Trainer balance seems to be about the same as mainline, but I did end up getting a few members of my team fainted on endgame battles due to item use cooldowns
>using moves to clear obstacles is kind of fun when you're not forced to use Rock Smash
>boss battles are engaging to a point, though I did lose against Zygarde twice
>the game requiring you to get rid of a Pikachu in exchange for a Heracross is absurdly bold
>Lumiose is accurately a shithole
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>>724256698
>i need a cloud jew to tell me my pokemon is legit
pfftthahahah
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>>724256229
Want to catch them all? (795 Pokemon not included for this game version) then pay $70 + tip + online + $450 for the console + DLC.
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>>724256726
I was seething while trying to turn a corner and the game constantly wouldn't let me. And gating the glide thing was so dumb that I had to do trick rolls to explore. It's such a stupid game.
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>>724234080
It still sold less than any of the older games on the 1st Switch.
And mind you, there is more Switch 2's.
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>>724256858
Yeah getting full dex on Gen 3 do be like that.
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>>724256867
Trick rolling is more fun than the glide desu. I kind of wish the game didn't give it to you at all and made you dark souls platform around, it was pretty fun trying to find the right angles to reach some of the bolts.
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>>724256698
>he doesn't know
kek

>>724256698
>and it’s flagged as a cheat mon if you do
And? Is Gamefreak going to crash my door and lobotomize me just like how they did with the serebii elephant man after he mentioned the BW tutorial giving no exp?
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>>724256783
>when you're not forced to use Rock Smash
you are not forced to use rock smash, psychic, dragon rush and many other moves destroys them too
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>>724256979
If a Pokemon's not legit it cannot be used in comp, and you'll get disqualified. Not that you could realistically use Arceus in tournaments but there you go, Pablo.
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>>724254652
>>724254820
>O-oh fuck i almost had to accept i gobble GF's cock with a smile but he posted a Naruto reaction image! Heh...get owned!

Pokecucks. Not even once lmao
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>>724246058
>why are you posting LITERAL uncensored PORN???
Why are you such a whiny faggot?
This is an adult website, grow up.
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>>724257162
Don't mind me, just using my beast ball Porygon 2 in this official competitive match, Juan.
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>>724257270
Do you understand what the color of the boards mean? is that too complex for a pokefag to understand?
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oh you're pissing and shitting yourself over dexit? name every pokemon
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It's not safe to freely roam Kalos without adult supervision!
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>>724257162
>If a Pokemon's not legit it cannot be used in comp, and you'll get disqualified.
That's not true because you need to get at least 3 pokemon flagged for you to get DQ'd. The game is all about pkhex cheater vs pkhex cheater, so your sloppily cheated shit can just sit on the bench. And that is if they even enforce the rules.
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>>724257020
I should reword it. Very early game, you're practically forced to use it because you have no other option. But having other options open up so you can use any cutting or burning move for thorny bushes or any Water move for sludge or any smashing move on boulders is a nice compromise from HM bullshit and other progress gates for overworld interaction. Even baiting wild Pokemon into attacking obstacles feels nice and intuitive as opposed to just having your bike or mounts that aren't your Pokemon clear such obstacles.
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>>724257270
>lust-provoking image
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>>724257364
Didn't he get in trouble for that?
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>>724257402
Are you a grown man?
Then why are you crying and pissing yourself over seeing a pair of tits?
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>>724234080
It's fun, gotta grind out the wins now. Probably whip out my turbo controller for AFK restaurant stuff
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>>724257653
>I need to post my trannyporn
>REEEEEEEEE
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>>724256257
no, this actually about removing a feature that was extremely easy to implement for no reason, same with switch/set
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>>724257653
It is specifically because I'm a grown man that I know how to control my sexual impulses, I don't need to post porn everywhere like some horny teenager.
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>>724257793
>for no reason
I just explained the reason, it’s a game design issue that makes it harder to use new Pokemon for no gameplay benefit
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>>724257916
Then make like a grown man and report and ignore instead of giving it attention.
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>>724257936
That's why they give you training items like crazy
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>>724256783
And as expected this post goes ignored.
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>>724257936
>it’s a game design issue that makes it harder to use new Pokemon for no gameplay benefit
Wrong. Forced expshare is the one thing that makes it harder to use new pokemon
Why the hell should I ever use my other pokemon when I can just solo everything with just 1 mon and the rest of the party catches up anyway? In fact, I am actively punished for using my other weaker pokemon because if they faint, they don't get any exp
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>>724258205
No EXP. Share makes it easier to just steamroll everything with your Chawizawd.
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>>724258167
I read your post, anon.
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>>724258318
Factually wrong, your charizard gets the exact same exp with and without expshare enabled. Forced expshare results in your charizard getting even more overpowered since now you can level up mons passively from your party which in turn completes evolution research tasks for free which unlock more overpowered moves for your Zard
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>>724258205
Why the hell should I use any Pokemon other than my starter or what I caught on the first route when it can solo everything when my other Pokemon are like level 20 max? I figured this out in Yellow with a Butterfree that I didn't need any other Pokemon but HM slaves, and I never got the Exp. All. I was 4.
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>>724257984
Gotta scold the kiddos.
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>>724258539
Factually misunderstood my point. WHY shouldn't you just use that Charizard or whatever to clear the entire game when it's the highest level Pokemon you have, and it'll stay the highest level Pokemon?
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>>724258167
>Bootlicker post gets ignored
No shit, no sense talking to someone that deluded.
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>>724258636
Congratulations, your 4 year old faggot ass discovered the easy/hard mode options of the games. If RBY had forced expshare, then there would only be easy mode. I eventually discovered that the games get more fun if I use a party of 6 mons and be constantly underleveled because of that.
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>>724258875
IT'S FUCKING POKEMON. GEN I POKEMON. IT'S ALL EASY MODE.
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>>724258948
And yet you got filtered when you used other mons... curious!
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>>724258875
>be constantly underleveled
This has never been true even once in the entire series.
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>>724259056
>filtered
A level 70+ Butterfree with Psychic mogs the Elite Four you disingenuous faggot
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>>724259090
Play DPP right now with a party of 6 mons. Use them all equally, see if you aren't undereleveld at all times

>>724259185
That's cool, but again, you solo'd the game instead of using 5 other pokemons too because that's too hard for you. Try doing it with a level 45 butterfree now, which is what you would have at the time if you actually played the game's hard option and used a party of 6 active mons
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>>724258875
You are literally saying that "hard mode" was made for 4 year olds who can't read to figure out and solve without trying. Jesus Christ, you make me sick.
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>>724259425
Yes, gamefreak is retarded when it comes to difficulty options, we all know that
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>>724259512
The only way to make Pokemon hard by any means is to disable items. Not experience point gain across the party.
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>>724259418
I did both of these things as I got older, and the game never got any harder. In fact, it got easier. I even played Japanese BW with anti-piracy and it still wasn't hard
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>>724257419
Don't let your kids out alone at night
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>>724259418
>Play DPP right now with a party of 6 mons. Use them all equally, see if you aren't undereleveld at all times
Delusional
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>>724260807
spoken like someone who battles every optional
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>>724246148
Literally how?
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>>724258948
If you play with a weird team Gen 1 can be brutal.
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newfags pushing for voices need to get fucking killed, i'm glad game freak is ignoring them.
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Thank you based Jim!
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>>724261935
If the game won't have voice work they shouldn't add pretend songs that have you staring and listening in empty silence
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>>724262093
I remember when his ass said Sonic Colors was a bad game. Terrible taste.
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>>724234080
sexo
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>>724262093
>at least ekans is in it
but is my boy DOGARS in the game
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>>724262093
>facking konami
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chances the dlc will add a non shit postgame? also there should be more multiplayer modes pls
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>Game adds cool new battle gameplay but still needs some work
>>You want to ride pokemon like in Legends Arceus? fuck you no cool stuff like that here
>You are stuck in a boring city
>You can't even go inside buildings
>The final boss is a glorified cutscene
>70 dollars
>You want the mega stones for the Kalos Starters the starters that came from the region that introduced mega evolution? Buy online
If you enjoy the game that's fine but if you are blind to its flaws and even defends it don't be surprised if people insult
>"B-b-b-but I had fun!!!!"
Good for you but that doesn't make the game any better
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>>724234080
>>it's actually fun
No it's not
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>>724264774
You can go into buildings though.
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>>724266016
Yeah, like in 5 of them, lmao.
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>>724266131
Yeah you can go inside buildings.
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>>724262093
Not wrong. Replace all Zelda-related themes from BotW, and it'd still be perceived as a great game, just not as amazing.
Replace all Pokémon themes from Z-A, and it'd legit have a Meta score of 45~, and the Pokémon community would mock it for being uninspired trash for trying to compete with Pokémon, similar to how they treat Palworld.
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>>724266170
Now tell me on how many buildings you can go in any other pokemon game.
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>>724267116
You can go inside buildings.
Just like in ZA.
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>>724234080
it's a childrens game, it's not a brag to be a grown adult enjoying a game made for primary school kids
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>>724267194
But in how many?
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>>724234080
>havent played pokemon since blue on gameboy
>vaguely familiar with the more recent games
>za looks like just more of the same shit
>see the starmie
>wtf thats fucking sick
>see clip of trainer getting merc'd by a pokemon
>wtf thats also sick
>find out they have a sewer dungeon and some kind of organized crime story
>suddenly interested in pokemon again, decide to watch a review on it
>now my feed is 99% whinging bullshit about people who pretend that reading 0/10 reviews counts as doing a review
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>>724269750
ok shill
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>>724269986
Shouldnt you be on r9k?
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>>724234080
I explored the entire city within the first 12 minutes of booting the game. There's nothing to explore. This game doesn't really offer anything else and the game runs poorly and crashes a lot. That's why this game was review bombed. You cannot be an actual human being if you actually enjoy this game.
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>>724234080
>any game with the EXACT same level of quality
>everyone shits on it until its dead
>slap the pokemon brand on it
>endless streams of excuses and "I'll play it anyway"
is there an even more pathetic fanbase than this?
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Like any Pokemon game it's fine. I'm playing the Switch 2 version of it and the main issues I have with it are how useless special attackers are and how attacks can get stuck on the environment, and of course THE LOAN SHARKS BEING THE GOOD GUYS. The reaction to the game's quality feels a bit overblown and artificial, I think largely in response to the pre-release DLC which was obviously pretty inexcusable for what we're probably gonna get, but then Sonic Racing Crossworlds did the same thing and everyone pretends to love that game. That's the way the internet works; once the narrative is already decided there's not much that can be done to sway it and people get mad if you try because they've invested way too much emotional energy into it. Like even my friend who barely plays Pokemon anymore anyway reacted incredulously when I told him I got it because he parrots shit he sees from the internet. Scarlet and Violet's reaction felt way more natural than this. Out of the gate regardless of quality ecelebs already dictated the discourse.
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>>724270606
I know this is bullshit because the game barely even lets you explore for like 2 hours at least.
>crashes a lot
Thanks for outing yourself as a poorfag third world pirate monkey
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>>724273017
people being upset about the pre-release dlc makes sense but you gotta remember that this game was supposed to be out like a year ago or so so its been done for a while its not like they cut shit to be dlc
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>>724273017
Special attackers are fine, you just need to get close to them so they can attack, they don't need to close gaps so they can just fire their bullshit from far away.
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>>724234080
>it's actually fun
Ooooooh, so you're having a blast
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>>724273017
that's similar to how I feel, scarlet and violet were a lot rougher but it was treated more humorously by a lot of people. this one's not that bad for recent pokemon standards but it's getting torn apart but in a weird way. there's plenty of things to criticize but they go after other aspects
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>>724273283
Their attacks just feel so slow. I regularly saw shit like Steelix outspeeding Gengar which is just stupid. Speed in general doesn't seem to matter. In online people get in your face with physical attackers like Garchomp and Gyarados who overwhelm you before you can really do anything. It feels random where they decide to move to before they start the animation as opposed to physical ones who just get in their face and launch an attack.
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>>724271182
Who are you quoting?
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>>724273747
Speed only controls cooldowns, not attack animation speed or movement speed, you can let them fire 1 or 2 attacks then move away, have them use teleport so they get right next to you and keep firing away.
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>>724262368
No sore throats in this game



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