>Wipes your 401k you put in pixels.nothing personnel kid.
diamonds are worthless
>401k>doesnt actually have 401.000 USD in itwhat did Americans mean by this?
>>724235716section 401 (k) goyim
>gacha by Japan:(>gacha + NFT stock market scam by Israel:DWhy are steamcucks like that?
>>724235589shouldnt there be some class action lawsuit against this?
>>724238310Why the hell would there be? It isn't Valve's fault people used unofficial sites to speculate in a market that was never meant to be sold for anything but steam money.
>>724238310just pixels bro no real value:)
maybe you should have made actual investments instead
>>724235589Brian Ferneyhough is a gamer?
>>724238416because he knows it exists and has for years? unofficially running a fake crypto currency/artificial market that is unregulated by finances? he could easily just buy shit himself, watch it inflate, mass sell off and then tank the market like he did all out ponzi scheme that is illegal. it should be investigated at the very least. the entire hat nonsense has always been fucked and selling knife skins for thousands, etc should have been illegal and has been massive detriment to gaming in general. cards, etc for retarded pc gamers that would rather buy pixels than play games. make the fat fuck pay and kill this malware platform for good.
>>724238310No because Valve never allowed third party bullshit pricing in the first place. All those gamblers are using third party sites and third party tools which is against the ToS. And allowing trade doesn't necessarly mean you approve of the items being used as speculative goods. Otherwise you could hold your local supermarket accountable for price changes.>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BRUSHES I BOUGHT YESTERDAY ARE NOW HALF OFF DUE TO DISCOUNT? I AM FINANCIALLY RUINED I PUT MY LIFE SAVINGS INTO THOSEAnd Valve made this change here for a good reason. They wanted to nuke the prices. Cause now people will see more reason to use the Steam market again instead of doing trades on third party platforms. This black market of skins thriving was a big problem in the first place. Not only because Valve miss out on profits due to lack of transactions on their own market - but now they have to deal with accounts and claims for bullshit that is happening outside of their control.
think for a few secs before putting in that much money anywhere
>>724239484regulation is massively lagging behind these online markets because the government is filled with demented boomers who don't know how to check their email unaided. Valve managed to deny people refunds for 10+ years while the law caught up and that's just for a simple refund on a purchase, this csgo skin market stuff is gonna be making them billions for another 10 years at least, and when that gets banned/regulated they probably come up with another anti-consumer grift
>>724235589
>>724239484>Valve finally takes steps to put down the hatconomy>He should be sued and investigated!!What manner of brown is this
maybe you shouldn't have installed steam cancer and "play" anything from valve>>724239623>b-but it's le third party ;)They are directly profiting of it, retard. They are operating in a legal gray zone and intentionally doing fucking nothing to cut off ACTUAL REAL MONEY GAMBLING websites from their platform. They'll never do that because they get mad cash from every transaction from their "totally not casino" scam. They claimed they are "data driven company" and calculate everything, but then evaded any questions about casinos because they suddenly have no data about them, all in the same interview, lmao.If boomers weren't completely fucking oblivious about all this "video game" thingy, it would've been outlawed long ago. It's literally selling real money gambling addiction to kids. Not just anime waifu pngs, but actual money that those kids think they can earn.
>>724235589nft babies get what they deserve
>>724235589BVSXD
>Gabe allowed this shit to fester for years gets rich of it >OH shit we could make more money and avoid the law if you change it now>PRAISE GABEN HES LE SAVIOR OF GAMING HE DESTROYED THE SKIN MARKET SO US PLEBS CAN GET $5 KARAMBITS!!!!You people are not even in a cult its beyond that
>>724239484>because he knows it exists and has for years?So what? Trading between players has a legitimate use case that isn't for speculating real money value. Valve has never endorsed anything contrary so the retards who invest in this market are all on their own.
>>724240236>gets richHe couldn't make money off of the real skins with real value. High-end trades didn't take place on steam marketplace.
>>724240084Gullible nutgargler can't see the forest for the trees. This move entirely serve Valve's interests in getting their % cut, and that is the ONLY reason they even did this shit
>>724240112How the fuck are Steam making money if Player A is giving 5k bucks to player B for his shitty knife? They are doing inventory trades - not using the marketplace on Steam.
>>724240373They profit from every single transaction.
Never post again coward.
>>724240419Damn. You mean Valve has direct ties with all the third party gambling sites and take a cut from their transactions? I'm sure you have evidence ready to substantiate your claim.
>>724240360Okay? Maybe don't "invest" in assets completely controlled by a singular corporation?>>724240419What profit do they gather from inventory trades with external currency exchange?
>>724235589Deserved.If the thought of spending anything over $100 for digital cosmetics doesn't immediately make you think twice you're actually just a retarded NPC and deserve to have your money taken. Its not an "investment" its a digital knife in a video game.MtG has the same problem with "investors" and I strongly believe that they should reprint all the cards they hold as commons and collapse that entire market overnight too.
>>724240419Only if that transaction is done through Steams marketplace.They ain't getting shit if people are doing inventory trades after using some external exchange and paypal.
>>724235589The CS skins were a money laundering scheme anyways
It pleases me to see all these retarded thirdie kids who thought they were market masterminds because they bought a skin for 50 cents and then pretended it was worth $20k get their asses blown out.
>>724235589Looks genuinely demonic here
>>724240501>>724240521>>724240550They profit from EVERY single transaction, even if it doesn't generate fee directly, retards. Do those items exist and just spawn in vacuum? You generate value merely by participating in this scam.
>>724235589>fiat owners lose money every day from governments printing money>sleep>valves does the same on something that was never supposed to be a financial investment>NOOO this is unacceptable!lol lmao even
>>724235589God bless you Gabe
I love this filter so much
>>724240360Why is Valve cutting the throat of a degenerate scam a bad thingPlease explain this to me
>>724240807I agree, it's a huge scam. Which is amazing that people invested hilarious amounts of money in a centralized asset whose supply is completely controlled by a single corporation. So then Valve, against their own best interest, decided to crash their own market for fun. Sounds laudable?
Its going to crash even more in a few days when the 1 week lock is gone
>>724241015It isn't but it has Russians, Chinese, and other lesser know third-world countries seething because the fags in those countries unironically relied on CSGO knives for profits rather than doing anything with their lives.
Retards attribute hypothetical worth to fictional things.And all these people are complaining about losing the value of their inventory are doubled retarded. It's potential revenue if you don't cash out then whatever happens is on you.
Retarded CS2 and Dota2 gambling addicts are literally funding all your Steam features and hardware like the deck as well as Valves VR shenangians.Remember to thank your local gambling addict for making the platform a better place all through their complete lack of braincells and self control
>get excited that the market "crashed" because I might be able to buy cool skins>knives are still 100 dollars minimumnothing changed lmao
>>724241390wait a few days
>>724241390Just wait a few days for the newly crafted knives to come tradable. The ruins of the market await.
>>724235589Is that Riff Raff
>>724238215it is weird, like if any other devs would try to put nfts and gambling in their games people would lose their minds
>>724235589>>724235673>>724238215>>724238310qrd?
Would be fucking hilarious if they made old cases obtainable also
I just think this whole thing is stupid. It's kinda admirable how a bunch of slavshit scammers managed to bypass the global banking system by running a parallel economy based on skins for guns on a videogame but they had to know the fun would end sooner or later. Anyone with a brain should've had one foot out the door like in every good scam.
>>724241478Any craft made with non trade locked skins was instantly tradeable. The market overreacted, knives will rebound a bit but not go back to their previous high end. You are an idiot if you think they will drop further. Anyone with basic economic sense should understand this update doesn't remove any money from the market, and the 3b loss is entirely because of lack of trust in Valve. The decreased value of knives should have been added directly to the reds, resulting in a net 0 increase or decrease of market cap. Trust will come back when people realize that players enjoy playing Counter-Strike.
>>724240236You have no idea what's going on and why something has happened.You just made your mind up on whatever you choose to believe and made an ass of yourself.Valve didn't make a penny on high value trades, that's what this was about.Now we have the lowest price covert weapon that didn't get used go from selling maybe 4 a week @ $2 to about 800 in a day at $40, that's money for gabe.Now we have alot more low value knives, selling on the steam marketplace that gabe gets money from.Valve has never endorsed the grey markets, never encouraged people to "invest" in CS skins nor have they expected people to use their entire savings on CS.You're excusing people being retards and suggesting the law allows retards to sue people because they do retarded things.You're in more of a cult that anyone else buddy.
Post tfw you sold the gemmy and made off with the bag a month before all this shit started.
>>724242661Anon, scarcity has been removed utterly and it was abundantly clear that the price of knives were inflated. You're insane if you think we didn't witness a bubble pop and instead are seeing momentary deflation caused by market instability.
>>724238310Pretty much everyone seriously affected by this is an organized criminal anon.
>>724242781HAD TO MAKE A COUPLE BANDS BY MY LONELY
>>724242791Scarcity is being removed from knives only by literally removing reds from the game. Money is not being removed from the game, it is being moved around. Any loss in market cap is strictly from players losing trust in Valve and valuing their items at less than they are worth so they can panic sell and pull out of the market. If every single skin in the game from consumer, mil-spec, etc were traded up to reds then traded up to knives, the knife supply would double at most. At the cost of every single skin in the game.
>>724235589I have to work 10 hours a day to afford food and rent and the fag who made op's pic makes fuck you money printing shitty ai pics on t-shirts I hope he gets sued and kills himself.
>>724242997work smarter goy
>>724242925Knives were the hot button item, reds were relegated to the trash. They haven't even met in the middle, knives deflated utterly and reds maybe doubled in price last I heard.
>>724242248In counter strike 2 you can get cosmetic weapon skins as random drops Some are common, some are rareSome people use third party websites to "hold" their skins for them, essentially an escrow service to sell your skin for real money outside game, and then do a skin for skin trade in gameValve recently made it so you can craft rare skins by destroying common skins The "rare" skins in the escrow service now have less perceived "value" because you can just craft them
Genuinely, what kind of retard actually treated this stuff as an actual investmentPeople already deal with hyper abstracted investments in the form of stock, why would you take that three or four steps further?
>>724238310RMT is not allowed by Steam's ToS. It would not stand in any court
>>724235589How did he go from looking like such a dork to a deadhead char who'd mainline lsd with Jerry Garcia. Is this the power of turning wizard?
>>724238310Yes, if this were considered a "real" economic entity Gaben would probably be occupying a cell next to Bernie Madoff's. Crashing a tangible economy that relies upon your service (the video game; the literal gambling with keys and crates) is suspicious to say the least and would warrant investigation. Valve could be seen as profiting off a deliberate crash based on what they found. I doubt Gaben is going so far as to dump bags, but if he rugpulled his audience of "skin investors" to make them buy more shit in the store and try to recoup their losses that probably violates at least one trust law. I'm reminded vaguely of that case where a virtual gambling site used a system of tokens not unlike Steam's wallet to make people trade real cash for gambling tokens, then crashed the value of said tokens, then expected nobody to sue for this totally arbitrary attempt at making long-time customers spend even more cash to offload their now-worthless Krusty Dollars.But this is a video game, which our decrepit government and legal system does not take seriously most of the time, and Valve is very rich so nobody could last long enough in court. /v/ will applaud because collectively they have empty bank accounts, no aspirations, brown skin and empty existences.
>>724243192chinks and indogs
not enough turd worlders killed themselves over thisthat's the real issue
>>724243061Ok well instead of going off hearsay maybe just spend 30 seconds looking at the price charts for items. Plenty of 2-6 dollar reds are trading for over 50 dollars, instant quick sell. There is no logical reason for them to "meet in the middle" when the current exchange rate is 5 reds to a knife. The absolute bare minimum then is the knife to be 5 times the price of an average red. Then you have to factor in wear, because float value affects the outcome of a tradeup, as well as rare patterns existing for knives allowing your craft to be much greater than the sum of its parts. This is also ignoring the fact that tons of reds are much more valuable than 2 or 50 dollars. These reds have actually gone down in value, strictly because of panic sellers trying to pull out of the market. There is no logical reason besides lack of trust in Valve for an FN Awp Printstream to go down to 300 from 500. No one is trading these up.
>>724243264>a tangible economySpontaneous generation of an insane speculation market isn't an economy, it's just speculators gambling again. You'd need to evidence Valve benefiting in any way from this change.
Everytime a speculator acks, god laughs
>>724243347Your speculation market died. Kneel at the grave and move on.
>>724243445It's a good thing you aren't a lawyer. The entire case and key system is very deliberately set up to overtly imply that some items, such as knives and gloves, are more desirable in direct relation to their scarcity. You can't endlessly say "speculation market!" when nothing about this is speculative.
>>724243247>turning wizard?I think he has kids.
Personally, I hope valve just makes all cosmetics untradeable
>>724243545Anon, yes, scarcity exists. That doesn't intrinsically give rise to a multi-billion dollar speculation market. Speculators have to then gather and begin trying to grift with these scarce items. If there are no speculators, no speculator markets can exist.
>>724243529I do not speculatively invest in CS2 at all, do you have anything logical or coherent to write? Or are you only able to shit fling when presented with an actual argument because it is difficult debate when your birth language is Hindi?
why do people use TCGs and videogames as speculative assets, especially considering their volatilityif you want to invest go invest in stocks or some shit, stop buying all the pokemon packs
>>724243693Wild to try to imply people that laugh at the market death is third world, when the market dying disproportionately impacted economically underdeveloped countries.
>>724235589does anyone have the trump one?
>>724243773Gotcha, so you are just here to shit fling, and have absolutely 0 idea about what is actually going on. Standard for the nu-/v/ poster.
>>724243764Yeah I dont understand it either. Placing money on a fund and watching it passively go up is the best feeling ever
If valve was profiting from this, why kill the golden goose now?Seems to me like a game decision. People always establish real money markets for tradables in popular games.
>>724243590On contrary. I want them to make them all tradeable and hyper easy to obtain so the whole market collapse to 0.01$ no matter the skin.
>>724243839>what is actually going onA bubble popped, some random tries to paint it as temporary market deflation when money did in fact simply disappear, as it often does in speculative markets.
>>724238310they probably made the update precisely because someone tipped about a law or something that can fuck them big time with the current system
>>724243692If there is no scarcity there is nothing to profit off of. Scarcity maintained a set standard for years. In layman's terms Valve allowed knives to remain the premiere thing you gamble $2.50 transactions for, for years, even going so far as to recreate that phenomenon deliberately with gloves. Then after years and years of this, knowing full well an economy was growing— undeniable because their community market has numerous examples of these items selling for thousands of dollars— they decide to intentionally crash the market by providing a simple path to obtaining those knives and gloves people gambled for. Again, it's like the gambling site I mentioned. It is absolutely not legal to form an entire monetary system around obtaining Valuable Entity through repeated microtransactions or gambling, then years later provide an easy path to Valuable Entity so anyone may obtain it, deliberately crashing its value, and then restructuring your system so gamblers (desperate to recoup losses in YOUR system) now furiously chase after Valuable Entity #2. This would absolutely get Valve killed in court if anybody was wealthy enough to sue.
>>724243764Because they're generally cheaper to get into for quicker returns and they aren't considered real investments/capital pretty much anywhere so you avoid taxes.
>>724243874My schizo theory is Valve got some phone calls from several government agencies telling them to either regulate themselves or they'll step in.
>>724243951>It is absolutely not legal to form an entire monetary system around obtaining Valuable Entity through repeated microtransactions or gambling, then years later provide an easy path to Valuable Entity so anyone may obtain it, deliberately crashing its value, and then restructuring your system so gamblers (desperate to recoup losses in YOUR system) now furiously chase after Valuable Entity #2reminder the current president did a rugpull with a meme countyou aint nothin cunt
>>724243903>money did in fact simply disappearAnyone can see the price empire chart and look at the 3b missing. The discussion is about why that money is missing only because of a lack of trust in Valve as opposed to the update actually removing money from the economy. When the only thing removing money from a market is lack of trust, it is 100% basic common sense that the value will start to come back when trust is regained. Considering Counter-Strike is older than you and your teenage mom, it is likely people will keep playing the game and trust will return. You are either brown or 14 to not understand this concept.
>>724243951What the fuck do you mean it's "Not legal"? It's absolutely legal for fashion brands to rerelease old designs. It's legal for car manufacturers to make old designs. If the diamond manufacturers decided to just open floodgates and destroy the diamond market, it would all be legal, with the exception that their shareholders might sue. Valve has no public shareholders.
Hi I've been living under a rock for 900 years and am old and dumb.What exactly is happening? I keep hearing about knives (cosmetics?) and hero shooters. Someone explain what's happened
>>724242781I sold a couple a reds for 90 bookaroonies, now I have some spendin money for the next sale KEK
>>724244210The CSGO/CS2 knife speculative market has collapsed because Valve made the rarest tier of skins craftable.
>>724244210Real money traders got fucked
>>724235589>Morons with real cash got screwed because they bought virtual items with no ACTUAL valueEven actual rich aren't dumb enough to spent money on fictional assets
>2025>there are still unironic steam drones
>>724244619>says this>gacha games exist
>>724244210>want to make money without working>rl stocks have laws and shit and that scares you>device a parallel economy over counter strike microtransactions>it becomes the entire ex-USSR economy's main industry>gabe doesn't give a shit for a decade cause he's gabe until he does
>>724238215>NFTNo, these are not even "non-fungible." That's the problem.
>>724244619Financial products are frequently major investments in wealthy portfolios.
>>724238310What law was broken?
>>724240531investors is just a fancy name for gamblers so I'm not surprised by this
Question. Why does this only happen in this game? Other games have lootboxes/skins/tradable shit too,don't they?Why only this one?Doesn't overwatch do this shit too
>>724243545And I suppose you are a lawyer? Fucking kek. Kill yourself brownoid
>>724244848Why are people so obsessed with an asset being fungible? When something is worth more than its basic material components and labor to assemble it, it is the same level of "stupid" as a purely digital asset. There is nothing different between a rolex watch and a butterfly emerald.
>>724245082>tradable shit too,There's like 3 other non-Valve games with tradeable items (ignoring web 3.0 shit) and one of them removed trading entirely after getting put on EGS. So no, most games do not have tradable skins coming from their lootboxes. League, Valorant, Overwatch, Call of Duty, Battlefield; none of these games let you trade the skins.
>>724245082Very few games allow free trading between people. Overwatch doesn't even let you trade cosmetics.Basically only a few Valve games and some MMOs do trading like this.
>>724245127Your purely digital asset is reliant on more to exist than your pretty emerald or shiny watch. Not to mention watches are *terrible* investments.
>>724245127I don't believe that you can't understand how even an abstract sense of exclusivity can increase the percieved value of something. You're playing dumb.
>>724235589gfgdf
>>724245301Its not something you're supposed to pour all your money into as an investment. It is something flashy you like to show off which you can potentially liquidate in the future. >>724245358I'm not a watch collector, did Rolex put out a reserved list recently of watches they will never reprint?
>>724243951>This would absolutely get Valve killed in court if anybody was wealthy enough to sueHave you actually taken a look at who is and isn't planning to sue Valve right now or in the near future?A whole lot of government regulators all over the world were gonna crack down on Valve for essentially providing money laundering for criminals and gambling for children in one neat package. The market was crashing anyways, the only difference was whether Valve would do so voluntarily in advance or if they would be forced to do so after paying a hefty fine in some european court.
I used to routinely sell knives as low as a tenth of the going rate purely for fun. I did it a lot too. I'd get a lot of angry foreigners, usually Bulgarians or Estonians but also some Chinese and Mexicans, sending me threats and trying to get me banned in all sorts of ways. Lots of failed attempts to hack me too. At one point one individual kept sending me pictures of houses trying to allege they were mine, which was really funny because they never got a picture of my apartment and never even got within the right tri-state area. Turns out when you don't blog your life and use random usernames it's really hard to dox you.I wonder how all those people are handling the current news.
>>724245552based
DO NOT REDEEM THE KNIFE
>>724245552Nice blog faggot
My conspiracy is that maybe valve employees were profiting off this third party trading stuff by filling their accounts with skins to sell, and something happened that either made them fearful of being caught or higher ups finally realized it was a problem and did this hoping for a larger financial gain in the company.There has got to be at least one employee who was able to load accounts with skins and made mad money off goobers on those sites.
>>724238310Why? Skins weren't made with the express purpose of them being used as currency. That's something the player base did on its own. Valve is free to make changes to the game's mechanics. It's supposed to be a game feature, not an investment opportunity
We're gonna destroy them in court bros, it's an open-and-shut case. Just donate to my kickstarter to fund the suit and we're all gonna 10x our investment in rights to use textures for digital toy knives
>>724239484The point was to trade. You can sell all of your shit for market price, or be a retard that tries to make money off of things you don't actually own. I think it's deserved. Anybody who makes money moving items other people created/manufactured/produced around isn't a job it's a service. Services are performed by either the interested party or a servant. They want to get rich through servitude. That is retarded. >i'll spend my actual money to capture items that other people are trading for free to make money off of people wanting items that are supposed to be free or limited>i will take advantage of an unregulated market to nefariously produce income for myself instead of getting a job>when this "job" collapses i will then blame the company that actually produced the "goods" i have capturedYou are just pathetic faggots and it's your parent's fault. Only absolute retards with no concept of reality would "invest" in cosmetic items for video games that will inevitably die. It's like if you started a company for custom PS4's cases and then started complaining when the PS5 released and blamed the company for your absolutely retarded and shortsighted "business venture". You guys are literal retards trying to argue business ethics with an actual billion dollar company when all you have done is reveal that you are an absolutely terrible businessman and your only "business venture" was you giving a company a shitload of your actual money for things they produced that you don't own to resell. You are less than the beaners who steal soap thrn resell it at the flea market, far less.
>>724238310no because youre not allowed to sell skins on a 3rd party site to begin with retards that "invested" in skins are fucking retarded
>>724245957If you're going with a conspiracy it is much more likely that some Valve employees bought up a bunch of 2 dollar reds before this update hit but they are paid a pretty handsome salary so I find it unlikely. This is most likely just to continue distancing themselves from lootboxes to avoid gambling regulations. Their new genesis terminal was able to pass lootbox laws in countries where you can't open regular cases like The Netherlands.
>>724246501>youre not allowed toSays who? It is strictly not against the ToS, with the caveat that no support is given for trades that happen outside of the Steam ecosystem. If Valve didn't like it they could shut it down instantly by banning the bots the sites rely on, like they did with gambling sites that got too big for their britches.
>>724238310The change is literally consumer friendly. The only people who lose are those who put all their money in skins and sold them off on some third party site.
>>724246636>Why didn't Valve, the company infamous for it's refusal to do treadmill work, do treadmill work to hunt and shutdown these sites as they popped up.
>>724246636i mean that sounds like a loophole bullshit walking a thin tightrope sort of deal there bucko
>>724245957I think Valve employees make far more than the average third-worlder who finds trading CS:GO skins worth "investing" in.
>>724246769What is the loophole, exactly? Valve specifically noted that trading your skins for real money is not against the ToS. What do you think the word "loophole" means?
>>724246825
>>724235589if you put serious amounts of money into this shit then you deserve bankruptcy
>>724246992Kill yourself unironically brainlet
>>724238310HAHAHAHAHAHA TRY IT FAGGOT
>>724247213dont be mad at me i didnt make the TOS you are breaking
>>724246992"You also understand and acknowledge that Subscriptions acquired in any Subscription Marketplace are license rights, that you have no ownership interest in such Subscriptions, and that Valve does not recognize any transfers of Subscriptions (including transfers by operation of law) that are made outside of Steam."It is not against the rules to trade items outside of Steam. This is why its important to do the reading yourself instead of relying on the free version of ChatGPT. I understand English is a second language for you but the Steam Subscriber Agreement has been translated to most first world languages. I guess not Hindi, which is the problem, huh?
>>724235589LOOK AT DAT BOI SANTA FROSTYTHIS PIC GO HARD FR FR
>>724247420repeating whats wrote then saying its not against TOS is not going to change you breaking TOS, why do you think you cant do shit about them destroying the gay skin market you third party fags created? because it was against TOS to begin with
>>724247538>repeating whats wrote then saying its not against TOS is not going to change you breaking TOSIf you spoke English above a third grade level, you'd understand the TOS states that selling your skins outside of the steam ecosystem is not against the rules.> why do you think you cant do shit about them destroying the gay skin market you third party fags created? When did I say anything about this?>because it was against TOS to begin withIt isn't.
>>724246636>It is strictly not against the ToSWhat's your point? Cutting your own finger off isn't "strictly illegal".
>>724247624>When did I say anything about this?thats the point, you cant because its against TOS lmfao
>>724247656What's your point? How are you "not allowed" to sell your skins? Says who? It is not against any country laws. It is not against the steam terms of service. As long as you report the income there is no foul play by any of the parties involved in selling a skin.
>>724247624Arguing on 4chan isn't going to make you the smart one in a situation where you are the retard. You think Gaben will see your retarded replies and have a chanfe of heart? You're a fucking retard and that's where the story ends.
>>724247715Pretending to be retarded after getting proven wrong is very pathetic. Everyone can tell when your posts went from being seriously misinformed to shitposting to try and save face. >>724247760I'm not really "arguing" as much as I am informing the retarded election tourist non-gamers on this website as to how the economy for Valve games has worked since they were still a twinkle in their alcoholic father's eye.
>>724243764Closer to a casino and less intimidating
>>724240679
>he heldBased DemiGod Gabe murking bagholders. >I will wait and sell at the pe-AAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!
>>724247841Valve games didn't have an economy. They were free mods on a webdite that were bought by a company that actually made 1 game out of their entire catalog. Half-Life is the only game Valve ever made. So you must be some new fag from DOTA.
>>724248001I'm not sure how developing a sequel out of a mod somehow makes it not your game? The first Valve game with an economy was Tf2, not Dota 2. This is all a non-sequitur though, the point of my post was about the economy system in Valve games, not you being offended over being called a newfag.
>>724243895I wish. It feels like that was supposed to be the idea when it launched. You spend 2 dollars on a key, so anything but the rarest item is like 10 cents or so. Then you can just buy whatever you think looks good with a dollar.
>>724238310thirdies have no legal recourse
>>724238310>Invest pixels with no real value in a highly speculative market>wtf what do you mean I lost everything???
Does anyone here actually play CS? been trying to find people to play with (EU) not that serious btw just trying to shoot shit.https://steamcommunity.com/id/TemplarLanaya
>>724248897Yeah but I'm NA. Oh well.
>>724239484why do we keep comparing an online market owned by a private entity to real life markets
>putting any money into a fickle entity like stocks coins nfts digital goods etc.fully deserved, it's real-time natural selection lol
>>724249275>fickle entity>stocksRetard
>>724249328i say it for lack of a better term but basically anything that goes up and down on a market is stupid to put one penny into
>steals money from retarded gamers to fund marine research and neuro sciencebaste
>>724249450well to be accurate they ddin't steal anymore money from anyone, that just made everyone interacting with 3rd party retardation lose money instead.
>>724249398Having a diverse portfolio in the American stock market is literally guaranteed money. It is not fickle.
>>724249539wrong and i refuse to listen to logic or reasonif there is even an infinitesimal chance i lose money it's gambling
>>724248192Tf2 and dota 2 aren't valve games. What are you talking about? They were completed before valve ever touched them lol. You are obviously wrong. TF2 was free and so was DOTA 2, until Valve "purchased" the rights. "Valve economy" is not real tk anybody that was there before it existed. Let me guess... you're like 28-30 and you started playing DOTA, TF2, or GMOD as an introduction to Valve games? All of which aren't even Valve games. You drank the kool-aid buddy, there's your problem.
>>724248537can't wait for this to happen to crypto
>>724249740tf2 and dota 2 were actively developed my valve, just because DOTA and TFC exists doesn't mean valve did not make tf2 and dota 2
>>724249740The mental gymnastics it takes to claim that Tf2 and Dota 2 aren't Valve games is crazy. Half-Life isn't a Valve game either by your logic buddy, they used a large chunk of the QuakeWorld codebase.
like spanish tulip mania and sudden collapse in 1637. before the collapse those bulbs could go for dozens of times peoples annual income but investors kept signing contracts for more and then selling those contracts to other investors that sold the contracts at even higher prices. then, suddenly, they became worthless since nobody actually wanted to own them, just trade them
>>724243083This post not only requires recognition for its efficient QRD, but its pic related emphasizing the consequences are wholly deserved.Reap the ripe harvest of your iniquity.
>>724246790Right but being able to create thousands of USD out of thin air by basically hitting a few buttons is a wet dream for most people, and I doubt that every valve employee is so principled that they wouldnt abuse it at all.With how big the cosmetic market is on games, Its unlikely that valve doesnt have or cant create the ability to give accounts knife skins if they really wanted to, thus allowing some employee the ability to make oodles of cash.
>>724249917>>724250016Valve did not make a single game besides HL1/2 and to even entertain your idea I'd have to completely lie to myself. I downloaded those games for free before the orange box even existed. HL2 was released by itself, and then modders created the games you think Valve created after valve hit them with copyright bs and claimed ownershio over their assets. You're literal retards. I'm not asking you what you think. I'm telling you what happened as I watched it happen. You can go download the original versions off moddb or fpsbanana if I'm not mistaken. Haven't looked at them for 15 years so maybe it's gone. Valve made Countet-Strike 1.6 too right? Lol. You mongoloid mother fuckers
>>724250543>afterwards valve hit them with copyright bs and claimed ownershio over their assets.Fixed.
>>724250543You're so fucking delusional. Clearly you're too young to remember the dota 2 beta invites and all the BTS features they made for the development of the orange box.
>>724250543I guess we all just collectively hallucinated the nearly 15 years of active development on the games you are talking about. Team Fortress 2 is not Valve's game nor does it have a skin economy. Got it.
>>724250543they made Ricochet too
>>724250543I heard they hired the original TF modders to make tf2, same with Dota. Does that count?
>>724250543Why wasn't back 4 blood as good as left 4 dead?
>>724239484isn't it literally against steam's ToS to sell accounts/items/inventories for real money? it's all shitty cosmetics for games, the rarity is just there to incentivize people to open more cases (separate issue completely)steam only runs the steam market which also has a hard cap on how much you can sell something for and it actually gains nothing from the changeit's literally not their fault at all, a bunch of retards wanted to play pretend with thousands in a heavily unstable and completely unregulated market that has 0 actual real value and everyone KNOWS it has zero value and are surprised when the fake unregulated market is fake and unregulated, it's like buying trading cards and thinking you should be allowed to sue the company that prints them if they decide to reprint which would lower your cardboard's value, it's just complete idiocy
>>724243264actual trvke
>>724238310CS2 skins aren't securities. It's hard to say if they're even a digital good.Regardless, they have no actual value and this shit is not regulated by the SEC. Russoids and Chinks that lost everything (imagine investing in CS2 skins lmao) can get bent.
>>724251108>and this shit is not regulated by the SECThat's what makes them cool.
>>724235589>You got a grill in your mouth, I aint mad atcha>I own every gold mine in South Africa>Thanks baby, you made me a billion>Plus I own a building>For each one of my children's children>That's the shit>Snort coke in the whip, Miss USA sucking my dick>Fuck the law, real jail is for suckers>I go to country club prison, you dumb motherfuckers!
>>724243264>Bernie Madoffirrelevant. Sam Bankman Fried is exponentially more criminal you programmed donkey.
>>724235589you may laugh at people buying digital items, but we do the same shit we we exchange work hours for numbers in our bank account
Another flawless Steam victory, love to see it.
>>724249864Already did.
>Some company makes a change to THEIR service.>"WAAAAH CALL THE POLICE!"this generation is absolutely fucked if they can't tell what a service is.
>>724249864I hope not. Crypto is based. I already 10x my investment of $2 I made 5 years ago. If this trend continues I might have $60 by retirement age. Cha-ching!
Still amazes me that people unironically had life-changing money on virtual cutlery owned by a single corporation with zero guarantees of stabilityLike Valve could have shut down trading at any moment for any reason and the entire portfolios of millions of people would have gone up in smoke
>>724249864Most cryptocurrencies have caps on how many coins can possibly exist. It's part of what allows them to have any value....And the SEC is actually starting to regulate how they're handled and traded, which will probably kill off rugpull crypto scams, at least in the first world.
>>724251747just wait until you learn how banks work
>>724250543Zoomers are actually retarded holy shit
>>724239484you can't 'short' a fucking knife skin bro. these aren't just made up terms there's actual behavior behind them.
>>724235589Good
>>724251561>be bank>decide anon is a faggot>remove all of his money for being a faggot>"Well it's our service so we can do what we want"This is not something I made up by the way, debanking exists and happens to people. It happens for the reasons you'd expect considering what tribe runs the banks. Don't bother telling me you support debanking, I know you do.
>>724252193I think the average person would fare better if their bank went down than if their collection of digital childrens toys went down, moron.
>>724252569>whitey seething he lostwe know
>>724238310It’s a private companyYou lostYou will never be a womanTrump lostDilate
>>724238310you signed the eula faggot
>>724238310>SARRRR, WE MUST SUING THE VALVE SAR THEY ARE STEALED MY SAVINGS SARRRR
>>724239484Literally not his problem lol
>I support billionaires and giga banks just to spite youSorry my mere existence is the reason you are a bootlick cattle
It's objective bullshit that Valve, a video game company, can erase three billion dollars from the global market just by changing three lines of code in a video game.They need to be held accountable. Someone needs to be in prison.
So what happens next? If Valve releases a new case and it's suspiciously different to how the other ones were, like the most rare thing in it isn't a knife, that just proves Valve crashed the market on purpose to try and invent a new scheme. But then if they do nothing different no one is going to open them because the market is destroyed.
>>724252834>if you are not with me you are against me!!!Such a tired line. I hate both big banks and indians like you. Get fucked retard.
>>724252193Are you unironically comparing banks to fucking CS2 skins?
>>724253002They already did a new kind of case with the genesis terminal. It is free to open, and the game offers you a random skin from the collection, along with a price to buy it at. The most expensive skins cost you over 1k USD to purchase from the genesis terminal. This is a payment directly to Valve, not another user. The skins are tradable. The genesis terminal is able to be opened in countries where you are not able to open regular weapon cases, like the Netherlands. They are 100% aiming to dodge incoming regulations.
>>724252193Most bank at least have deposit insurance. Unless the whole banking system craps out your money is safe
>>724240236you are a mental midget fr fr
>>724252834>no dude i was fighting against the billionaires by dumping all my money into a gambling black market scam!lol you people are delusional. no wonder you make such horrible financial decisions.
>>724238310https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xngBF-sWsLg
>>724253151Yes? It's the exact same economic system behind all speculative assets, it's just that banks are backed by the implicit threat of the military and skins... aren't.
>>724252993I am agreement sir. Valve betraying the turd party websites and make me lose all the money. Valve should be behind the bars forever and punish the families too.
>>724243264Third party shit that they have a policy against isn't their problemSorry you invested your savings in gaudy knife skins
>putting money into video game skinsWhy?
>>724253417So you got it, good job
>>724252658If the average person's bank collapsed their life would be starved and probably irreversibly ruined. Your post is so dumb I actually hope somebody kills you.
I hope many vatniks go through alcohol withdrawal from this.
>>724253482Because said videogame skins could make you a fortuneOf course the market said videogames are on could either change drastically or be erased at any moment based on the whims of a single corporation who has next to no horse in the marketteehee
>>724253482Money laundering, sanction evasion, hiding assetsWhy do you think Russians are crying the mostrn?
>>724253482Gambling is fun when you have expendable income
>>724253651Maybe I am retarded but if you invest into a highly speculative volatile asset shouldn't you know losing money is a very real probability?
>>724250769I remember all that shit. I also remember mods becoming a target for Valve and them hitting certain people with copyright shit. Dota 2 and tf2 being called valve games is hilarious. Maybe they developed the models, fucking MAYBE, but they did not develop that game lol. Nor Counter-Strike etc. I am amazed you think they did all this shit. Somebody else said they had the same team work on tf2, which still makes it... not their game. They made Half-Life and as another said Ricochet lol. The concept and code that are the existence of those games were made by other people who are not Valve. You clearly have no idea what "creating" means. To obtain somebody elses work and then change it a little and call it yours isn't producing you jew.
>>724253417Why is it Valve's responsibility/obligation to facilitate third party trading/speculation of their skins?If I create a brand of plushies and for some reason millions of third worlders decide to trade and speculate them on a third party market that I have 0 control over, why is it illegal for me to see that demand outweighs supply, and just produce more plushies? Why is it my obligation to protect the financial interests of retarded browns hoarding my product and selling it for profit? Why is it illegal to serve the interests of my honest customers who simply want a plushie at a reasonable price?
>>724253714In case it's not clear: Eastern Europe heavily relied on CS2 because these countries all generally struggle to access US dollars.And while these skins were rarely ever cashed out for literal dollars, they were valued in dollars which made them extremely good for crypto transactions.
>>724253872Do your plushies involve a gambling system where you charge $2 per level pull for a chance at a super-rare, less than 1% enviable plushie?
>>724244667Gachatards aren't delusional that they can cash out. They know they're burning money.
>>724253608Vatniks use skinchangers
>>724253570If you don’t live in a third world country your bank account will be insured by your government up to a certain amount. That amount is more than all of the unemployed and minimum wagies in here would ever dream of having so they would be fine. You will get you check for the $49 that was in your account back don’t worry.
>>724254041What meaningful difference would that possibly make? Ok, suppose my plushies come in capsules with different levels of rarity.If I see that some rare ones are being hoarded by browns selling them for profit at grossly exorbitant prices, why is it illegal for me to say, "I want more people to have some of the rare plushies so I'm gonna release more of them"? Why is it illegal for me to prioritize my honest customers who want rare plushies? Why is it my legal obligation to facilitate the parasitic profit incentives of brown people hoarding my product when that was never my intention?
>>724253823Yes, which is why all the people crying and bitching about it are total retards
>>724253823No, it's Gaben's legal responsibility to bail me out for being retarded
>>724254041Sure why not, that doesn't change anything lol
>>724254392>>724254581Do you really not understand the difference between gambling mechanisms and selling a product?
>>724253941>In case it's not clear: Eastern Europe heavily relied on CS2 because these countries all generally struggle to access US dollarsI didn't know CS2 was released in the 1980s.Fucking retard
>>724235589I don't get why people were hoarding them. If you have a videogame item that you know people will pay tens of thousands of dollars for, why wouldn't you just sell it immediately and then invest THAT money?
>>724235589Trading should have been 1 item for 1 item.
>>724235673That's not true. There are obvious industrial applications for the hardest known material. In fact diamonds are already used just for grinding shit. They just don't use the artificially scarce "pretty" ones for that.
>>724238310LOL they could have literally banned anyone engaged in third party trading and had every right to do soyou signed the TOS to play the game and trade items while paying them a fee, nothing more, nothing less, and definitely no fucking price guarantees
>>724235589>"investing" your money into an nft market that is apart of a video game and therefore has no real value in the real world.It's your fault.
>>724241095I watched the show but I still don't understand why Mike looks like a sunburnt scrotum in this meme.
>>724254639As expected, you literally cannot explain what difference it makes. Valve is not legally obligated to take into account third world retards selling their products on third party platforms, when it literally violates their ToS.You're genuinely retarded. Then again, you're brown.
>>724254805I don't understand how people post shit like this and then don't understand the excuses people use for Valve collapsing CS2 can be used for anything. Any investment. Even your bank account. If you knowingly maintain, continually offer and continually develop a source of investment that is painfully easy to observe, it can easily be argued that you bear some obligation to maintain those sources of investment for as long as you remain solvent. The only reason it's not argued is because Valve is a giant private corporation centralized in the USA, which permits them to do everything just shy of having niggers work in cotton fields in exchange for whiskey rations.
>>724254639What are you even attempting to get at?Is cosmetics gambling dumb? Yes.Should anyone be legally responsible for third party bullshit that results from tradeable cosmetics? No.
>>724254979Valve's ass is covered because cases functionally don't exist anymore, just the system described here >>724253170 which is less a gambling system and more the ability to directly invest your money into Valve as if they and CS2 were a pseudo-bank. Collapsing the existing value of CS2 items is just forcing people into this system rather than trying to operate outside of it. In any other country but the USA this would be a scandal and probably put Valve under.
NO CRYING IN THE CASINO
>>724235589What you mean virtual knife not prudent investment?
>>724243192Chinks and poos don't make shit from wage slaving and they're too fucking stupid to play around in the stock market so they figure pumping thousands of hours into a f2p FPS in the hopes of getting a rare skin is their best bet at making it big
>>724255034Yeah the trustworthiness of banking institutions really hinges on the enforcement of the digital knife market, you fucking clown lmao
>>724255034maybe it's actually because it wasn't ever intended to be an investment? If that fucking gamestop bank greentext was real and gamestop stopped allowing preorders to be cancelled, would you say that anon would be justified in suing them?
>>724255312I'm impressed someone can call others brown while aggressively refusing to grasp any point explained to them. Not impressed, more impressed you haven't choked to death somehow.
>>724255175If you purchase an item from a company, is the company allowed to put that item on sale in the future? Is the company allowed to produce a higher quantity of that item in the future?
>invest money into a very speculative, extremely volatile, extremely niche, and unregulated market>shock and surprise when your investment is gonei mean, how stupid can you be
1.6 and Source chads who never migrated to csgoy win again
>>724255175>In any other country but the USA this would be a scandal and probably put Valve under.Well it's not and retards were still dumb enough to pump their life savings into it. Tough titty, faggot. Should have picked something to invest your money in that wasn't fucking retarded and required sketchy under the radar dealings.
What was his goal anyway? Does he make money off of it?>t. normie fag
>>724255395You tell me what you think the point of a crate and key system with a 0.25% chance of unboxing a rare item is. What's the "point" of that item? Don't forget to factor in Steam has a market system where you can sell that item, and at this very moment some of them are available for thousands of dollars.
>>724255034>a source of investmentFrom now on if I sell any products online, do I need to add a disclaimer that says "this product is not intended to be a source of investment"?Well too bad, I don't write hindi.
imagine investing in a stock with no real economic backing or physical asset, lmao
>>724255706What are you selling online that costs $2 per attempt, with a sub-1% chance of the customer obtaining a very rare thing?
>>724255649Valve has been threatened by legislation about their gambling mechanics for years now and now it's catching up.So Valve are slowly tapering off of the gambling.
>>724242596true and I agree but they only cut the profts by like 30-40% the skins are still worth retarded insane amounts lol
how come you guys dont just replace texture files and use the cool knife you want for free?I used to play counter strike source and i liked to make the ump into a thompson
>>724238310Private company + most of them were foreigners so have fun hiring a lawyer that will side with you as a non-american taking on a gigantic corpo with millions of dollars and the best american lawyers money can buy. you read the ToS and EULA now lay in it.
>>724255662To make dullards buy more and to skim money from transactions on their own marketNone of which is investing or secondary market trading
>>724255872Do you think Wizards of the Coast should be held responsible for reprinting Magic cards and tanking the prices of the rares I own as a result?
>>724255473I said clown, not brown
>>724256057Yes, this has happened in the past. Beanie Babies was successfully sued for it.
>>724255975All the high value cosmetics for every game seem like gaudy pieces of shit from what I've seen
>>724254453but he does if you didn't play more than 2 hours
the whole problem is that Valve should have announced this change like a month before actually adding it to the game
>>724255872Literally does not matter whatsoever. It could be $100 per attempt, no difference. In fact, it seems Valve did the moral thing and realized that the rarity of some items is too unattainable for most people, so decided to rectify that for their customers. Why should Valve care about Wing Pong who chose to purchase an item for thousands of dollars on a third party site with the hopes of reselling it to Sukdeep for even more thousands? Why should Valve legally or even morally care about you?
>>724256365why?
>>724256398>so decided to rectify that for their customersThe odds of getting 5 good red skins from cases then trading those up to a desirable knife is practically as rare as unboxing exactly the knife you want anyway.
>>724256398I think you're getting ahead of yourself by refusing to take into account what obligations a company may have if they encourage gambling and then deliberately tank the value of their most valuable gambling rewards, all for the purposes of making those same people (now at a loss and likely desperate) invest more money into some new scam.
>>724235673diamond is unbreakable
>>724238310no refunds get a job
>>724256057Doesn't Wizards specifically state certain cards will never be reprinted in order to prop up their prices? If they went back on that pledge, there's probably a case thereIf any company made no such public promise, then fuck no
>>724256216>Beanie Babies was successfully sued for it.I just checked Grok and Gemini, both said this is objectively false. Nice try, Panjeet.
>>724252834You do realize you were paying the billionaire Gaben by buying those skins in the first place, right?
>>724256216source?
>morons kill themselves because their counter strike NFTs go kompoofDid I even care before when you human slop died before? You were scum, and now, we need people who actually WORK to clean up your corpse. You know how expensive that shit can get?
>>724254668>I don't know what exchange rates are or the impact of us economic sanctions We know, american. Maybe sit back and listen to people from other countries for a change.
>>724235589>pixelsPixels imply you have an unique bitmap.These knifes are not even a full bitmap, it's like 32 bytes in a server somewhere.This text is bigger than what you "own">
>>724256575I'm taking those obligations into account just fine- it's "none"
>>724256714People are killing themselves over knife skin prices plummeting and you're laughing!
>>724256930it's fucking hilarious>>724256798no
>>724256520>The odds of getting 5 good red skins from cases then trading those up to a desirable knife is practically as rare as unboxing exactly the knife you want anyway.So this was a scheme to eliminate third party trading sites which violate Valve TOS in the first place. In other words, why is it illegal for Valve to enforce their own TOS? Why is Valve legally obligated to protect the financial interests of people violating their ToS at the expense of people who abide by it?>>724256575Why is Valve legally prohibited from tanking the prices of items on third party sites which they have 0 control over?
Why weren't they actively selling all these expensive skins and using that real money to make real investments?
>>724257116That's too sound anon, we're dealing with retards here.
>>724257116Diamond hands saar hodl saar much profit in hodl when line go up saar
>>724257116Sir, this is racism sir.
>>724257116Do you think they weren't?
>>724256685well ackshually they weren't, they were trading on 3rd party sites so they were paying other millionaires instead
>>724257027The closest thing to a point I can interpret is they think a company shouldn't tinker with the rarities of things once released, or some shit.Unless they genuinely believe Valve was knowingly creating a third party investment market outside of their own market.
>>724257116Because these guys are armchair investors who don't realize that unrealized capital gains aren't actually capital gains. The United States has a fuckton of laws (Investment Company and Investment Advisers Acts of '44, Act of '33, Act of '34, etc) and institutions (SEC, FINRA, etc) in place specifically to prevent retards like these from getting scammed or running themselves destitute and they still find new ways to fuck themselves. Retards love speculative markets because they think no work is required.
>>724252834Look if I have to choose between Valve and retarded thirdies who speculate on a market even less stable than your average crypto shitcoin then I'll pick Valve. You shouldn't even be allowed to breathe with an IQ that low.
>>724255662>Don't forget to factor in Steam has a market system where you can sell that itemYou can "sell" those items on the Steam marketplace for Steam store credit, not cold hard cash. The only places you can sell them for cash are grey market sites. Valve doesn't make any money off that shit. If anything, they lose money from them. With the Steam marketplace, whatever you sell your shit for ultimately just goes back into Valve's pocket since it's just store credit only redeemable on their store front. With grey markets all the money goes to the seller, presumably with a percentage going to whoever hosts the site. Regardless of whether you think that's a greedy outlook on Valve's part or not, it doesn't change the fact that you're fucking stupid if you gambled your money on CS knife skins because ultimately your """investment""" relies on the stupid assumption that Valve won't make the most obvious business decision when someone poses a threat to their profits.
>>724257116because it had been outperforming bitcoin for the past decade.
>>724257293If they're literally killing themselves over their hoards going defunct, probably not.
>>724255662It's in-store credit retard, if anything its a closed economy that Vlad and Chang managed to loop hole their way out of.
>>724239484He's known people have been breaking TOS for years?
>>724257501Steam wallet money is filled from exchanging real money, it's not just store credit. Valve does make money this way.
>>724257430>they think a company shouldn't tinker with the rarities of things once releasedWhy not? This won't affect you in any tangible way unless you're specifically purchasing these items as an investment. If you bought a $1000 skin because you thought it looked cool, how are you affected if they release more copies of that skin, changing the market value to $1? What possible difference does it make unless your intention of buying it was as an investment?And again, why is this Valve's responsibility? If you misuse their products, especially in ways that directly violate their terms of use, why are they legally obligated to act in your financial interests?(This is not directed at you btw)
>>724235716I'm working on it, ok!!!! I only started it at 22
>>724239484>Valve should be investigated because I don't know what business risk is! I should be unpunished for putting all my life's earnings into one single sector!
>>724257576He said real investments.
>>724257750Can you take that money out of your steam wallet and deposit it in your bank account? No, dipshit. Once you put your cash in your Steam wallet it's basically Valve's money.
>>724257576in an unregulated market owned by a private company, so basically it's all just monopoly money.
>>724257498>>724253139>>724253398>>724256685lmao i didn't play csgo since 2016 and made hundreds after i realized i had a dozen or so expensive crates/capsulesand at no point in that post i said i am a trade niggerkeep sucking gaben's little jewish cock
>>724258162>Sir, I am crying not because I losed the money sir, I am crying because Gaben is the jewish sir
>>724257930Oh I can't read, you were talking about people cashing out lolYeah it is just Valve funnymoney
>>724243083>Valve recently made it so you can craft rare skins by destroying common skinstrade ups have been a thing for a decade though??
>speculative bubble>real moneyLOL
>>724257930you can get real money by buying skins and trading them off steam.
>Investing in a volatile digital market with a singular supply controllerI SHIGGY DIGGY DOO
>>724257853I guess if I was the kind of person to compulsively sink resources into a gacha pull, I'd be butthurt if other people were given better odds afterward, regardless of perceived market value
>>724256930I am laughing over people killing themselves over skin prices, and you are laughing?!
>>724240236>>Gabe allowed this shit to fester for years gets rich of itIt's literally last 2 years.
>>724235673Lab created diamonds under 3 carats and white natural diamonds under 1 carats are worthless because they were mass produced in unheard of quantities by the bugmen and are common as dirt, respectively. Colored gems and large sized natural diamonds will always have value because they are actually rare.
>>724256798Not my country, not my problem. If you need me I'll be grilling some steaks while firing my six shooters in the air while cheering as a bunch of chinks hang themselves and throw themselves off rooftops because the prices of the knife skins they gambled the paltry wages they slaved 164 hours a week for in a Sketchers sweat shop on tanked.
>>724235589It's incredible just how many Zoomers actually believe valve and Gabe Newell are SOMEHOW liable for unaffiliated second-hand market trading of their digital in-game items.Those Pokemon card collectors are going to be thrown for a loop when the Pokemon company rugpulls them too in the future and they somehow think the Pokemon company is at all responsible for the retarded markup on the cards.
>>724235673craftsmanship is priceless
>>724258261>YOU ARE TRADE FAGno i'm not>NO YOU ARE INDIAN TRADE FAGi said no you buf->HI TIMMY HOW IS EPIC STORE?
>>724258528Yes
>>724256930Okay I might blogpost a little but I actually had to clean up apartments of guys who killed themselves. You get a real good look at how sad the lives these people are, and I just don't have the time nor energy to have told them>Hey, this is a really stupid idea!
>>724235589>>724242781>>724242910man I love these wigger edits
>>724258793>Sirs, am about to became the rich man soon and moving to Norway find the white blonde wife, until the Gaben destroy my brilliant investments sir
>arbitrarily assign value to a digital good>the arbitrary value you assigned turned out to be wrongyou gambled, and lost
>Gaben causes millions of jeets and bugmen to an suicideTrump needs to give this man the Medal of Freedom for making our enemies weak again.
>>724258469Via a grey market run without Valve's permission that they're basically losing money to. You can take a gamble and try to fuck a company out of their profits in the hopes of making some cash but don't be a bitch and start crying if the company just turns it around and you end up getting fucked instead. You knew the risks, you knew it was a gamble, and you still went for it. That's just the nature of getting involved in shady business, fag.
>>724257027Selling your skins isn't against the terms of service.
>>724235673Diamonds are forever.
>>724259280Can you explain why third party sites for selling skins existed?
>>724235673worth more than you tranny
>>724235589Lmao
>>724240531>MtG has the same problem with "investors" and I strongly believe that they should reprint all the cards they hold as commons and collapse that entire market overnight too.I haven't played (or paid attention to) magic since Rath, but people valuing the cards weren't because they were necessarily good and they wanted to add them to their decks, but because they were rare. Energy sink was a good card, energy sink with calvin sitting on the toilet was rare and worth a fortune. Otherwise re-prints are treated as re-prints as far as rarity goes. Same with comics. I had fantastic four #1 as a kid. It was barely worth the dollar I spent on it because it was a reprint of a reprint of a reprinted collection, which never bothered me because it was more about having the fun stupid campy sci-fi and historically significant first issues of the fantastic four, and that fantastic jack kirby art.
>>724238215You made this up, you could never turn cosmetics into real money from within Steam, it was all third-parties. Gacha is just actually stuff required to win. This is Steam finally taking action, if slight. Violators deserved it, but you wouldn't understand cosmetics because you don't play anything but gacha.>>724238310
>>724259395Because cashing out steam market funds results you in losing more money in the end due to the going rates. You either have to try and sell games you bought on sale or buy steam decks and sell them on ebay. CSFloat will deposit direct to your bank account.
>>724258608>natural diamondsAren't any different from lab-produced ones.
>>724259280Its a grey area at best, much like collecting Pokemon cards and selling one to your friends because you'd need to pay to buy 1000s of packs on the off chance you get the rare card they're looking for. I Gamefreak (or who ever does the TCG I forget) put that card they're looking for as a standalone copy you can trade 30 or so circle common card for one of those then its worth far less now.
>>724258261Thank goodness brown people can further degrade any attempt at discussion on this site by projecting.
>>724259627>cashing out steam market fundsBy design, you are not allowed to withdraw steam market funds. In other words, third party trading sites exist to allow you to violate Valve's ToS. So I will ask, once again, why is Valve legally obligated to facilitate the continued violations of their own ToS? Why is Valve legally obligated to act in the financial interests of brown people who are ruining the in-game economy of their honest customers?
>>724258116yes, retarded risk comes with retarded gains.
>>724259995Please point to the exact clause in the ToS that prohibits selling your items for real world money or fuck off already. You are making mental leaps that have zero logic behind them.
>>724235589Gaben looks baller asf here new Steam PFP
>>724254969he was in two shows. from what I can tell he ends up having to help Saul Goodman get away with millions of dollars of cash in bail money (for a cheerful cartel dude called Lalo Salamanca) through a fucking desert, and they both get burnt to hell.someone just extended the last bit of sunburned skin with photoshop to make him one giant fleshy/crusty mass of pain.Why? because its funny. maybe it speaks to all the bullshit he goes through during the series or something, idk.
>>724259686I think what that anon is saying is that small diamonds are made on an industrial scale, which means its hardly worth the time or effort to bother digging them out of the ground because even with slave labor, you still have to feed and house them. Big gemstone quality diamonds are still valuable because they can't grow artificial ones that big
>>724235589Is there a filter to make these stupid wigger pics? I Want one
>>724259995third party trading sites only exist because Valve “allowed” it in practice. they could have easily do some fuckery with their own APIs and shut them all down for good this monday if they wanted to. they dont do that because they know skins having actual value is also giving them shit ton of profit.
>>724259686Besides, you know, value. Any gemologist can instantly tell a synthetic from a natural with a simple 10x jewelers loop. You can buy a synthesizer that will fit in your garage for $50k and shit out sub carat diamonds all day, every day. Which is why they are considered worthless. 3+ carat diamonds require an actual facility and incredible electricity requirements so they have some value.
>>724240531>MtG has the same problem with "investors" and I strongly believe that they should reprint all the cards they hold as commons and collapse that entire market overnight too.That wouldn't work. Even if they reprinted those rare cards from way back in the day, they'd still be worth a lot if only because of how old they are, as long as they're in mint condition. Those also have copyright years on them to verify what year they're from so unless you're going to go to painstaking lengths to take one of those reprents and forge it to match one from like 1993 that shit's not going to work (and avid collectors are going to be able to spot a forgery pretty easily, plus if it's a forgery of an extremely valuable one the fact that you never got it graded for obvious reasons is going to raise some eyebrows). That's part of why treating these knives like collectable cards is so retarded. There isn't a hard finite limit to them since they just pop out of loot boxes, there's no risk of them degrading so there's no demand to collect ones in pristine condition because they're all as pristine as they can get, and there's no concern whether they're the original or a rerelease because ultimately it doesn't matter because there's no way to verify if they're from the original release or not.
>>724260109>The SSA typically states that you are not entitled to "sell, grant a security interest in or transfer reproductions of the Content and Services to other parties in any way," or "exploit the Content and Services or any of its parts for any commercial purpose," except as expressly permitted (like on the Community Market).Oops, sorry Darpeet. Looks like Gaben outsmarted you again.
When you convert USD to to Steam USD, Valve is not seeing that entire dollar typically. You buy a 10 dollar game, they see 3 dollars. So the base value of a Steam USD to valve there is only 30 cents. But when you buy a CS2 skin on the community market, they remove 15% of the transaction forever essentially, taking it off their books as money that would ever have to be paid out to a developer. Adding on to that, the person who received your steam dollars for the skin is very likely to continue spending that money within the steam market ecosystem, causing more of it to "disappear" via fees. It could potentially allow valve to make the entire real dollar out of the steam dollar. I wonder if Valve has some internal documentation on how much one steam dollar actually earns them in USD on average.
>>724260297it's ai just like this
>>724260601You did not quote anything that exists in the Steam Subscriber Agreement. What article does it fall under here? Just quote the text.https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/
>>724242661>players enjoy playing Counter-StrikeAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>724260603We won't probably know until they either go publically traded with it or someone sues them for doing something shady with the money.
>>724260314>Valve “allowed” it>they know skins having actual value is also giving them shit ton of profit.Their loss then. Maybe you should sue Valve of Valve's behalf since you clearly care very much about Valve's balance sheets, and are not in any way seething about losing your own money from your own retarded decisions.
>>724258401Rub those 2 braincells together anon and see if you can find the answer
>retard buys cumshitcoin and loses all of his money>"lol what a retard he deserved it for putting his money into a ridiculous investment like that">retard buys cs skins and loses all of his money>"WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS EVIL, VALVE IS LEGALLY AND MORALLY REQUIRED TO TREAT THEIR VIDEO GAME ITEMS LIKE A SERIOUS INVESTMENT PEOPLE ARE FUCKING DYING @FBI DO SOMETHING"explain. what's the difference?
>>724260603While super unlikely as 99% of high volume trades don't deal in steam market funds, it is interesting to think of a scenario where people with a huge steam wallet balance (would have to be multiple accounts because of a 2k wallet cap) all acquired via trading skins on the marketplace could mass cash out in Steam games and do a "bank run" type situation on Valve.
>>724260296>which means its hardly worth the time or effort to bother digging them out of the ground because even with slave labor, you still have to feed and house them.They dig them out anyways as part of the process of seeking fancy-grade gemstones, which is why there is an inevitable glut of them. Hitherto, the Jews, sorry DeBeers and the Russian government had a cartel going where they simply restricted the supply of small diamonds to artificially inflate their value but now there are so many Chinese funded mom and pop mines in Africa shitting them out on the market that they forever ruined their value. Russia has thousands and thousands of oil storage tanks (those bigs ones) filled with trillions of chip diamonds that they hoarded for a century trying to artificially keep the price of small diamonds up. Once human beans learned to diggy diggy hole, turns out small diamonds are as common as quartz. Same way amethyst, despite being purple and once one of the rarest gemstones, became sold in gift shops for nothing once a supermassive vein of the stuff was discovered in Brazil that single-handedly made the stone essentially worthless overnight.
>>724260980CS skins were supposed to go on for another 15 years WTF???
>>724261043Based chinamen dabbing on stingy Ruskies' diamond hoard.
>>724235673but yachts are forever
>>724260678>He keeps tryingRanjeet, you are not going to win this.store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreementSection 2A: "Valve hereby grants, and you accept, a non-exclusive license and right, to use the Content and Services for your personal, NON-COMMERCIAL USE (except where commercial use of expressly allowed herein or in the applicable Subscription Terms) ... The content and Services are licensed, not sold. Your license confers no title or ownership in the Content and Services."Section 2G: "You are entitled to use the Content and Services for your own personal use, but you are not entitled to: (I) sell, grant a security interest in or transfer reproductions of the Content and Services to other parties in any way, nor to rent, lease or license the Content and Services to others without the prior written consent of Valve"
>>724261317>Valve does not recognize any transfers of Subscriptions (including transfers by operation of law) that are made outside of Steam.It is not against the Terms of Service.
>>724260329Said value is completely artificial. Yes, you can tell them apart, but unless you're a mineralogist studying geological features they are absolutely equal for every application - from jewelry to industrial saws and drills.
My entire investment strategy relies on me buying bottles of heinz ketchup with balsamic vinegar that was discontinued in 2018 and was spiking in price among other fellow ketchup enjoyers.Recently Heinz decided to once again produce said ketchup, resulting in my ketchup stock falling in price for millions and millions of dollars. Is there any way I can sue them for my losses?
The markets already up 25% from the initial crash. Like anyone with a brain predicted, people overreacted and panic sold. I think we'll be up to 7b by EOY.
>>724261647Everyone who panic sold feels like shit right now seeing their knife go up. Everyone who held is regaining trust seeing their knife start to return its value. /v/ was wrong once again.
>>724261476Yes it is, because it explicitly states that you do not own anything you buy from Steam's platform, and therefore do not have the right to sell or license anything you buy from their platform except when given explicit permission. How are you genuinely this stupid? Why are third worlders like this?>Valve does not recognize any transfers of Subscriptions (including transfers by operation of law) that are made outside of Steam.You're being disingenuous now, expected behavior from a jeet. The whole sentence that you clipped (for some convenient reason) tells you that if you buy something outside of their marketplace, that does NOT mean you own it because Valve does not recognize the legitimacy of third party platforms.I wonder why you'd like about this...
>>724261761>>724261647Prep the rope in 5 days.
>>724243903>when money did in fact simply disappear,
>>724261761I unironically hope said panic sellers would off themselves too after the fact lmao
>>724261647KINOPRESS D TO DAB ON DOOMER SISSIES GRAVES
>>724261761wait 7 days thats when its tradable
>>724261525LOL go to any jeweler and tell them your CZs are worth just as much as naturals and report back what they say. Or just google it.>Cubic zirconia (CZ) is significantly less expensive than natural diamonds, often costing around 90% less due to its synthetic nature and mass production. While CZ can mimic the appearance of diamonds, it lacks the same rarity and resale value, making natural diamonds a more valuable investment in the long term.
>>724261832I just hope knives don't bounce back too hard and we can retain more value in the reds. Opening a case for a 5 dollar chromatic aberration is fucking gay.
>>724235589Hate this fat sack of shit, but honestly prettt cool of him fucking over digital """assets""" fags.
>>724261761>>724261647>lacks information
>>724239484>make the fat fuck pay and kill this malware platform for good.Fucking this.
>>724238310not even the jewiest jew lawyer in the jewnited states of weimerica would try to file that>all these faggots i mean plaintiffs want to sue valve for infinity billion dollars>for devaluing their pixels>that were being speculated on and traded for >with us currency >on third party websites not affiliated with valvelol>and breaking the tos anyway>>72423948how much did you allegedly have and then lose in knife skins you stupid faggot lmao
>>724255034>it can easily be argued that you bear some obligation to maintain those sources of investment for as long as you remain solvent.Ease is no issue, it's if any of them hold up in court.
>>724262172If I liked the knife at 22k, why wouldn't I like it at 8k? Keep selling them and I'll keep buying them.
>>724261647Bought the dip and made like $300 already, basically covers my next half to full year of vidya purchases
>he sold
>>724262406did you sell? it's going to go down in a few days again when the skins become tradable
>>724235589Thank you based Gabe for redistributing wealth from the Saudis and CSGO gamblers to the people. After this update I checked my inventory value and it went up 40x. I've made $1,294.03 in the last 6 hours selling some junk in my inventory. The whole trade up system turned garbage into gold. My games are paid for in full for quite a while. Thought about getting an OLED steamdeck but already have the OG one. Hopefully Gabe releases the new Steam Controller 2 soon so I can get two of those with my CSGO blood money.
>>724238310>class action lawsuit over retarded moids wasting money on pixelslollmao
>>724262513
>>724262678Everyone on buff is reversing trades and tanking the offense right now because they are freaking out about having panic sold. Even on csfloat people are reversing trades like crazy. This is a small forum, you don't need to spread misinfo. No one here will invest anyway.
>>724262678>westerns customers are getting scammed by chinksLMFAO
>>724261979Females are retarded and are ready to pay more for a brand sticker. Yes. >go to any polishing paste producer and tell them to buy naturals instead of CZs and report back what they say
>>724262802you can check the post yourself and confirm that its true
He sold?
>>724235589>speculate on imaginary objects>lose imaginary wealthThe issue?
>>724263220The wealth was real thoughever.
Ok so what stops me as a player from selling my silly little knife to another player for real? Wouldnt this fall into the used product market so it's fair use?Don't get me wrong I'm happy those traders got cucked in the ass but at the same time why I'm not allowed to do it?
>>724263674You are. If you unbox a good knife you can sell it on csfloat and get a direct deposit to your bank account in 8 days when the trade hold ends. I made 600 dollars before the crash off just one knife.
>>724258608>they are actually rare.No one tell him, it's much funnier this way
>>724263674Nothing really. You only "lose" money if you bought the skin for real money assuming that you could pass the bag to someone else at an even higher price later.
>>724235716Why would it only have four-hundred and one dollars and zero cents in it?
>>724249328>>>fickle entity>>stocks>Retard
>>724264467If they had invested and held they'd be multi-generational millionaires.
>Ok so what stops me as a player from selling my silly little knife to another player for real?Nothing unless you tell or otherwise notify Valve that you're selling it outside of the steam market>Wouldn't this fall into the used product market so it's fair use?No, because the license granted to you for the knife is only for personal, non-commercial use. You don't actually own the knife.
Modern investing is a meme anyway.
>>724240419100% of 0 is still 0, they werent trading the big ticket items through steam but third party places
I left all my money in my bank account and guess what? It's still there.
>>724262802>No one here will invest anyway.speak for yourselfI spent 10k on cases during the dipthis was the best time to invest in a LONG time. I'm already up about 4k if I sold everything for cash right now
>>724235673diamonds are the hardest metal
>>724265249That would be Dragonforce, actually.
>>724265059Which one I'll go rob it right now faggot.
>>724255649To get people to buy keys for crates instead of speculating on third-party markets they don't control
>>724265197It would be shame if valve added past cases and agents in some major update now.
>>724265670go aheadmy money is insured by the federal govermentso you'll just be robbing the bank, not me>:)
>>724265289based
>>724235589i really really like these edits
>>724263448really speculative yesand really lost, indeed
>>724235673not worthless but indeed a scamlook it up, a family in olden times held a monopoly on most diamond mines and artificially pumped the price of diamonds by making an artificial demand for itthere's a real rabbit hole to this
>>724266782theyre cool
>>724235673just like skins.
>>724239484>this dribbleThe absolute state of /v/, fucking kill yourself you room temperature IQ retard
>>724253482Just retarded turd worlder things
>>724238310Sure you can sue for anything, just dont be surprised when the judge laughs when you tell them your retirement funds were based around investing in digital CS2 trinkets.
>>724257116Diversifying your portfolio is too hard for shitskins
chinese literally killing themselves over this geg
>>724251264nah
>Make skin """investors""" ack>Get rich in the processThe House always wins.
>>724274915The market didn't crash, the money is simply being funneled down to the lower tier skins. When it course corrects in a month knives will be down 10-20%, which is still way up from where they were 5+ years ago. Investing 101, do not panic sell your assets. Just keep calm and spam inspect + reload in your premier games, it will be OK.
>>724272935Who would believe that.
>>724266782same
>>724240419I think it's this. Valve profits from every transaction, so either they want to de-couple themselves from idiots gambling or make items more obtainable for the common man so that people will trade more and thus valve makes more money... Gabe's genius... It's truly unmatched
>>724235673
>>724243874>>724244014>go on third party site>pay agreed amount of money directly to the seller>do a direct inventory trade with the participating player, which has NO SALES TAX OR TRANSACTION FEE>"But valve was making so much money!! It was a billion dollar economy!"????????????????????????????????????????????????????? what is with this shitskin jeet math
>>724240419Every single transaction *on the steam marketplaceIf I sell a knife for $5000 on sellmyknives.com Valve doesn't get a dime
>>724276808Plenty of people buy and sell lower value skins on the market if you're going to use the balance on steam anyway. Skins are worth way, way more on the steam community market, even after the 15% fee you have to eat. If your goal is to open cases, buy more armory passes, or get a new game; it is a no brainer to just sell on the community market.
>>724277149There is a narrative that 50k knife skins are somehow profitable for valve. They're not, any item worth over 2-3k is going to be sold third party, thus cutting Valve out. They DO make a lot of money from CS2 but not from this part of the market. Just to be clear, nobody cares about the 90 dollar skins crashing in price
>>724238310I don't think any American court is going to take Russian complaints seriously.
>>724277381They are ultimately what fuel case openings and really all the lower level trading to begin with. If there was no 50k jackpot there would be significantly less people opening cases and significantly less people passing around the pity items when they don't pull an emerald butterfly knife. You are not able to list skins for over 2k on the marketplace because the wallet cap is 2k on steam.
investing in pixels and virtual things is useless and will always be.
>>724266593
>>724238310Why would there be? RMT was against Steam TOS to begin with
>>724240419Only if you sell using the steam marketplace. Skin sites use trades betqeen bots to move stuff around so valve sees $0. Im surprised they didnt just lock it down to the marketplace lol
>>724266593Thats too based but id love to see it kekohne will rope on stream
>>724259027How many Indians have actually killed themselves as a response to this, versus how many ruskies having yet done so?
>>724277538>You are not able to list skins for over 2k on the marketplace because the wallet cap is 2k on steam.Cool but it doesn't matter since a 50k trade on the steam market (if such a thing were possible) would only give you funbux, if they removed the cap, people would still be circumventing the market. >If there was no 50k jackpot there would be significantly less people opening casesAnd when someone hits this jackpot, guess what? Its value leaves the confines of valve's own market. Valve gets money for the keys, which is still substantial sure, but they are NEVER seeing a cut of that 50k knife, and it's an bigger loss of prospective revenue for them every time the knife changes hands or increases in price. Also, so many cases are so expensive now as a result of this scarcity-based RMT economy that it is mathematically more profitable to just trade the cases rather than ever get a key to open them.
>>724278424Yeah, when someone hits the jackpot, Valve doesn't take a piece of that. Just the 1 million dollars worth of collective cases it took for someone to hit a desirable knife, with a desirable skin, with a desirable pattern. People like you that don't actually play the game read one headline about a 50k knife and think that is a normal top end. Again, none of these cases would be getting opened if there was no theoretical crazy jackpot. Plenty of people sell lower value skins to buy things they want on the steam store as well. Obviously it is mathematically more profitable to trade a lottery ticket than it is to open it yourself. If nobody gambled on cases, again, there would never be a 50k knife. Ever. If nobody opened cases, who would buy your shitty 50 cent case on the market? You do not understand how any of this works at all.
>>724235589I WAS SET FOR LIFE YOU FAT FUCK
>>724278801Hey retard, I don't think 50k knives are normal, i don't want them to exist.
>>724279101Well for those of us who actually play the game, we enjoy being able to gamble on it from time to time. I opened a skeleton knife last month and sold it for 600 dollars. I used it to buy a plane ticket. Not seeing many other videogames that let you do that. Let alone ones with half decent gameplay.
>He got away
>>724243764They're either low IQ retards who don't want to make the effort to learn how traditional investing works or they live in third world countries that don't allow them to reasonably invest in traditional assets.
>>724279293>For those of us who play the game>we don't actually play the game, we use it as a digital casino and ersatz stock brokeragenow this is epic
>>724238310no one cares about the usual suspects like chinks and ziggers that ruin every game and its community
>>724278076None, its a wishful fulfillment in part of /v/'s obsession with them.t. Indian from actual India.
>>724238310Isn't it against Steam's TOS to trade items for real money?
>>724279509I play the game. I get armory stars. I use them to gamble. Meanwhile you're just a know-it-all on /v/ who never played the game.
>>724279680>SAAAAAR I AM BRAHMIN ONLY FiLTHY DALIT KILL THEMSELF
>>724266593sure but first we'll get sticker trade ups and removal tool
>>724279748You can claim I don't play the game all you want if it helps you cope, but valve is still tanking your favorite chinese pixel economy and you're going to have to deal with it
>>724279816Yes.
>>724279680Guessed as much.>>724278076>the original street shitters
>>724279903I'm up quite a bit.
>>724279368the fat fuck just keeps winning
>>724280036>wannabe daytrader responseokay bud
>>724279975you will never be white
How long until he gets Luigi'd?
>>724280425guess it would've already happened if he lived in China
I love all the jeets trying to claim Valve is going to lose billions from this, as if they somehow know Valve's revenue data better than Valve
>>724264194Sorry for my typo. I have only 16,0 giga octets of memory, monsieur.
Pcbro meltdowns are great for everyone.
>use system in a way that it's not intended for>system changes which breaks your exploit>the system owner is at fault for not continuing to allow thisThis is a collective bait right? No one in this thread is actually this stupid right?
>>724263008We knew you were retarded but thanks for also informing everyone you are a faggot.
>>724281474No one actually believes Valve did anything wrong, morally or legally. It's just a bunch of third worlders finding ways to cope over losing their life savings.
>>724281474Every argument for trading expensive cosmetics via third parties contains a lot of "I like" or "I feel"
>>724282503Literally this.By offing themselves they're actually doing the world a favor; >>724278076.
>>724265249That would be my penis actually
>>724282228"""Organic""" reactions are always like that, picrel.Did the constant thread bumps totally die out once the "ze Indians!!!" narrative fell apart?
>>724280026Indians and trannies live rent free in /v/'s headJust post any anime image or make any anti corpo post and watch every newtumor lose their minds
>>724284451Post-2016 (((/v/))) tourists have always been very intent on waging pretend-wars on literal brainghosts, rather than bringing any sort of attention onto what's actually ruining vidya and the rest of society.You could almost say this is a obvious pattern to everything they do.
>>724235589That's why I put my money into gold and silver before 2025.
it's only a 401k if you actually put it into your 401k accountotherwise it's not actually retirement savings
>>724244643name a better online gamestore.
>>724261285https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--OrsxviNCA
>>724238310if anything, valve should be suing third-party trading websites for profiting off of their products without a license
>>724284968Unpopular opinion: Ebin is actually the better store.Unfortunately it's also a quite mediocre client but otoh Steam has been doing everything it can to make Ebin look like relatively improving, in the past ~6 years.
>>724285736>doesnt have built in user reviews and just plugs metacriticimmediate F tier compared to steam, but lets go on...>doesnt have a built in mod db for individual games>doesnt have built in user guides>doesnt have built in forumsand thats just off the top of my head.better luck next time, epic shill.
>>724235589Proceed... i am so tired of videogames...
>>724285964I don't give a fuck about your social media bullshit: Only game supply and prices.
>>724257116I guess they waited a little too long to off load their investment.
>>724286101all of those have uses outside of social media bullshit>built in user reviews - most reliable review system since you have to at least own the game in order to review it. filters way more shitposters, bad actors, and review spammers.>mod db - self explanatory. gives a centralized place to share and find mods for a game>user guides - self explanatory. gives a centralized place to share find tips and guides>forums - like guides, but for more focused questions. also provides an avenue for feedback`of course im sure you dont care.
>>724235673still less volatile than csgo skins
>>724257116>shitskins hoard items as an "investment">this creates scarcity for those items>line goes up because there are less in supply with more people that want them>shitskins see this and go "I MUST DO THE NEEDFUL AND HOLD! I MUST INVEST MORE! LINE GO UP SARS!">shitskins dont know when to withdraw, so they keep doing this until valve makes a positive change for the average end user.>shitskins end up killing themselves because their hoarding drove the market to extremes high enough for valve to say "hey wait no thats not what we wanted. fuck you"
Bump!
>>724254880Would B crazy if you were a schizo which had no argument :)
>All this talk about cs2 got me curious again>download the game>dust casual is gone>uninstall the game
>>724288837lol.
Well, bump limit.
>>724264467Just buy the dip, dipshit
