How did we go from this...
and this...
to THIS?
>>724246479this looks better
>>724246479It's the conveyer belt, market research mentality instilled by big money
shut up and enjoy your diamonds
>>724249006Maybe on planet retard
>>724246479schooling and standardization?
>>724246479the simple and refined modern UI can be ported into a gazillion languages way easier plus its easier to fix errors and bugs when you don't have to worry about clashing with the art style of the menu too hard
natural selection, we have found UI formula that works best for most cases./thread
>>724246479when gaming companies, instead of having programmers and artists create UI, they started hiring UX designers who had previously worked on commercial applications where the main intent is that the most retarded user needs to be able to navigate the service.
>>724246479Games started being made for brown people
I don't remember an old game where, "man, I sure do love this inventory screen". They all kinda suckInventory screens in modern games generally work fine
>>724246479niggers struggle with learning new things so a standard accessible ui had to be invented to prevent racism or something
>>724251776Stop hating Indians.
>>724252261I don't hate them I would just prefer if they weren't alive.
>>724251776holy based
>>724248898The item list is absolutely retarded. That UI is just a flashy veneer covering the usual stale design 99% of JRPGs suffer from.
>>724252849Ok but I want the flashy veneer. I want my games to look cool.
>>724246479where the soul went?
>>724253149Sure, but the examples at >>724246372>>724246396 are also functional. Persona still uses the good old Excel List method.
>>724253212There are still games with tasteful UIs.
>>724246479Because most of the UX in the top was shit. Fallout 1/2 has a terrible interface with the scrolling list of all your items smushed together. DMC's weapon management system was unnecessarily complex for a game with only a few decent weapons. Others like Runescape were always ugly messes that felt like bastardizations of Ultima UIs from 10 years before. Those are uninspired, but if you need to find an item or some gameplay function, you can do it.
>>724253335Vidya?
>>724249635/threadcompanies are too big to be creative
>>724246372>>724246479I still think it's an resolution issue, it's hard to scale hand crafted visuals.
how did we go from this to that?
>>724253805Pillars of Eternity and its sequel
>>724246372Does anybody know which games these 2 are?Top one looks familiar, but I can't remember, bottom one just looks cool.
>>724253986That is a definite problem.I can point to Paradox games as having a big issue with higher resolutions even in the modern day. EU4's UI really doesn't scale properly at 4k, as an example.Most of the older games above don't display their UIs properly on modern resolutions without patching of some sort.
>>724253335Too bad PoE is fucking shit.
>>724250003
>>724248898Person 5 UI was amazing and full of soul.Even the Gun shop and doctors place was amazing
>>724255042The first game was OK but Deadfire was really bad. The visual novel-styled ship fights or whatever were particularly ass.
>>724254929top is champions of norrath
>>724252849>>724253781Aesthetics > functionality
>>724254929brother i was just about to ask the samei looked it up and the top seems to be Champions: Return to Arms (2005 PS2 sequel to Champions of Norrath) and the bottom is Elm Knight (1992 PC-98 game)
>>724252075Me neither. But I do like a good main menu screen. Chronicles of Riddick and Dungeon Siege come to mind.
>>724254929Champions return to arms and Elm Knight.
>>724255503Why don't we get good title screens anymore?
>>724251776GRVKE
>>724255669Never reply to me again collagefaggot.
>>724246372>>724246396gonna need a list of all of these games
>>724255350>>724255450>>724255563Thanks guys
>>724255669>haloand that's what you get now
>>724256389Soulless
>>724256007
>>724246372>Yo bro, I heard you hate squares and diamonds>No worries, I got you bro
Went from unreadable to readable Whats the problem
>>724246479I dont even think this is easier to use. The text is too small most of the time. The functionality sucks.
>>724257781The worst part is that I can't tell if this is real or a satire.
>>724257986Yeah I remember the first time I encountered this nu-menu design was in FFXV and I couldn't read the text because it was so small. Granted my eyesight isn't amazing, but I usually have no problem with older games.
>>724257781this is a clusterfuck of an UI
>>724246372>>724246396>>724246479> Why are devs getting better at their craft We may never solve this one.
>>724246479The same thing happened in other fields of creative arts as well. Ever pondered why our cities are so ugly and depressive and boring?
>>724259135> Ever wonder...No, I realized black people lived in cities long ago.
>>724246479It's the death of art and beauty. You see it in our architecture IRL, too. Our culture values function and conformity now over beauty and uniqueness. Nothing can be extravagant or verbose. It must be sleek, minimalistic, and uniform.
>>724257992If it was real it would have a quest log explaining the current objective it's obviously photoshopped
>>724259470It's become that way because the country is flooded with billions of nogs/poos who have no appreciation of anything.
>>724252075The point is there was effort put forth vs copy/pasting the current flavor.
>>724246479to this...https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xngBF-sWsLg
>>724246372>>724246396GUI that's only useable with a mouse>>724246479Controller-friendly GUI Old Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games had the same boring look because they were controller games.
>>724246479I like how someone gave a practical answer almost immediately and it was ignored so anons could be racist. never change /v/
>>724255669HL2 is the template for nu-title screens so why put that shit on there? God HL2 is such fucking garbage and responsible for so much wrong with modern vidya.>DUDE MUH CUTSCENES BUT YOU CAN WALK AROUND IN THIS BOX WHILE THEY YAP INSTEAD OF SKIPPING!
>>724260071HL2's title screen has soul. The template for nu-title screens is BotW.
>>724255669the soul well has gone dry.
>>724260196What the FUCK went wrong?
>>724260185for me, it's..
>>724260004How's life up there on planet retard
>>724260369Sovl
>>724260196>>724260185Save us Japan
>>724246479we found the best UI and now everyone is using it. it simply cannot be improved any further now
>>724246479Blizzard ruined gaming multiple times.
>>724259470what's the point of beauty when they teach in universities to hate everything that is not approved by the globalhomos agenda?
>>724253335POE was made with the intent of marrying le classic bg2 CRPG with le modern sensibilities. You could ask AI to merge Baldur's Gate 2 inventory with a average modern RPG UI and you'd likely end up with something remarkably close to POE
>>724259470Don't forgot comfortable.>Some companies actually install anti-comfort toilets to pressure workers into going back to work sooner to "improve productivity"
>>724246479Games are made for and by browns who can't even read.
>>724246479normalfagsthe answer is always normalfags
>>724246372>>724246396>>724246479Game devs used to be autistic weirdos that worked on shit because they enjoyed games and wanted to create cool shit to play for a living.Now they're 9-5 normalfags that think GoW Ragnaslop is an RPG and the peak of video games.I work with a guy who was in QA for EA way back in the early 2000s, I remember hearing the dude go on about how much he loved the ultima series growing up and started working at EA because he wanted to move into Origin and make cool RPGs, doesn't have much nice to say about it from when he left.
>>724246479women and indians human capital managed by semites
>>724246479I think it's that UI designers figured out what works well on consoles and large TV screens then that became the standard. Big, clear graphics for items, simple grid layout for control stick navigation, top menu LB RB navigation, having your character featured prominently so that you can see changes, etc.
>>724246372>>724246396All these games actually look fun.
>>724251776Thread should have ended here
>>724246372Autistic Whites and Asians left game dev. brown retards, women, and fags took over. This is what you get as a result of that. Anything else is preddit cope.
>>724252261Stop being obsessed with cow poop
>>724267269They can be obsessed with whatever they want. In their country.
>>724267326When their country is so shit that they start shedding their population like a virus, we have a responsibility to put an end to it permanently
For me, it's killer7
>>724246372>>724246396Left to right, top to bottom:- The Witcher (1 or 2?)- Age of Empires 2- ????- Oddworld Abe's Exodus- Arcanum- ????- ????- ????- God of War?- Diablo 1- Fallout- ????- Metroid Prime- Planescape Torment- Legacy of Kain- Resident Evil 4- ????- Rage of Mages (1?)- Rage of Mages (2?)- ????- ????- ????- Runescape?- ????- ????- God of War?- ????- ????- ????- ????- Ninja Gaiden?- ????- Zeus Master of Olympus
>>724270060Why do these colossal fucking inbred retards confuse the HUD with the entirety of the UI? Why do they believe that easy readibility during combat magically means you cannot have a main menu or inventory screen that had more than 5 minutes of thought put into them? Why has nobody nuked reddit's servers yet?
>>724270060>Functional over form
>>724270280If I ever make and release a game I'll include an optional plain text with simple single colour background version and call it "reddit interface".
>>724260185This is derivative garbage
>>724269781Here's a few moreLeft to right, top to bottom:- The Witcher 1- Age of Empires 2- Nox- Oddworld Abe's Exodus- Arcanum- Arx Fatalis- ????- Champions: Return to Arms- God of War- Diablo 1- Fallout- Elm Knight- Metroid Prime- Planescape Torment- Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain- Resident Evil 4- ????- Rage of Mages (1?)- Rage of Mages (2?)- ????- ????- ????- Runescape- ????- ????- God of War 2- ????- ????- ????- ????- Ninja Gaiden?- Ultima Online- Zeus Master of Olympus
>>724246479They are not that bad.
>>724257757Can someone name all these games?
>>724271295Top to bottom, left to right:>Max Payne>Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines>Hitman 3: Contracts>???>Deus Ex>Grand Theft Auto III>Kingpin>Manhunt>???
>>724251776ironically brown people play more of the old games than wypipo
>>724271430Thank you anonI have no Idea what the last one is either
>>724246479no mouse on consoles so everything has to be utter dogshitimagine if you had to use word or excel with a gamepad
>>724271430>>724271967Neotokyo and No More Room in HellDo you even play vidya?
>>724271913No they don't, they play F2P shit.
>>724255669I miss the video that would play when you didnt go past the title screen for a few minutes.
>>724270283They arent wrongbut they dont give function, just remove form to act like they give function
>>724272089emulation is F2P
>>724272072>Do you even play vidya?No
>>724272836
>>724271295>Can someone name all these games?No problem, bud.(Part 1/4201)The A-FilesA-Men 2A-TrainA-10 Cuba!A.D. 2044A.D.A.M. Life's Greatest MysteriesA.D.A.M. The Inside StoryA Dance of Fire and IceA.R.E.S.: Extinction AgendaA Girls Fabric FaceA Hat in TimeA Game of Thrones: GenesisA Passion for Art: Renoir, Cezanne, Matisse, and Dr. BarnesA to Zap! Featuring the SunbuddiesAaAaAA!!! – A Reckless Disregard for GravityAaeroABC Sports Indy RacingABC Sports Monday Night FootballAbomination: The Nemesis ProjectAbsolute DriftAbsolute Force OnlineAbsolverAbyss OdysseyAbzûAccel World vs. Sword Art Online: Millennium TwilightAcceleration of Suguri X EditionAccolade Sports CollectionAccounting (video game)Ace Combat 7: Skies UnknownAce Combat: Assault HorizonAce LightningAce of SpadesAce OnlineAce Ventura: The CD-Rom GameAces HighAces of the GalaxyAces of the PacificAchronAchtung Panzer: Kharkov 1943Achtung Spitfire!Acrophobia (game)Act of AggressionAct of War: Direct ActionAct of War: High TreasonAction Quake 2Activision AnthologyActua Golf 2Actua Ice HockeyActua PoolActua SoccerAd VerbumAD&D Masterpiece CollectionAdam's VentureAddiction PinballAdidas Power SoccerAdrift (video game)Advent RisingAdventure at the Chateau d'OrAdVenture CapitalistAdventure Pinball: Forgotten IslandAdventures of PipAdvertCityAfrica TrailAfter...AfterlifeAfterpartyCONT.
its consoles its always consolesnever stop hating them anons
>>724270915>>Left to right, top to bottom:>- The Witcher 1>- Age of Empires 2>- Nox>- Oddworld Abe's Exodus>- Arcanum>- Arx Fatalis>- This might be one of those Might & Magic games>- Champions: Return to Arms>- God of War>- Diablo 1>- Fallout>- Elm Knight>- Metroid Prime>- Planescape Torment>- Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain>- Resident Evil 4>>- Revenant>- Rage of Mages (1?)>- Rage of Mages (2?)>- ????>- ????>- ????>- Runescape>- Age of Wonders>- Chaos Engine>- God of War 2>- Perihelion on Amiga>- Submarine Titans>- Xanadu Next>- Revenant>- Ninja Gaiden?>- Ultima Online>- Zeus Master of Olympus
>>724246479Always loved UO's paper dolls and profile avatars. A lot of character in an unmoving dress-up mannequin.
>>724273191>Consoles are ba-
>>724270060they are all correct. half of the "soulful" ui in OP's pic was utter trash to use
>>724270280There's a reason why they're widely known across the internet for being midwits
>main menuwho cares lol
>>724271990But the soulless, flavorless UI is based on the UI of older PC games though.
>>724270060>The Witcher 3 medallion shouldn't be thereNo the character shouldn't explicitly say it's vibrating. It's a UI feature but now it just glows. Before it would vibrate to let you know about monsters or magic. Fucking redditcels.
>>724274260People with soul.
This main menu was utter trash but you guys will defend it.
>>724263096Sawyer is chopped. Also unc.
>>724274515more like people under 8 and autistic people that enjoys watching washing mashines
>>724274670Sovl lvdo kino. You wouldn't know a good menu if you tripped over it.
>>724274670Fucking SOVL
>>724274670omg are those eyes following mouse cursor? and the cursor has a magnifying glass on it? IS THAT A CREEPY LITTLE GIRL VOICING THE MENU OPTION I AM HOVERING. I am literally cumming my pants now
>>724273554You have switched the first "Revenant" pic with "Blade and Sword".
>>724246479Women and browns.A hindrance to white men since the beginning of time.
>>724273191this
>place logo at the top>add buttons written in some cool stylized font>have some animated background in the back>play some kino from the OSTit's that easyhttps://youtu.be/8n79NEX9DNI
>>724275682If it's that easy why don't we get them anymore?
>>724273554The top right in second pic is Eternal Darkness I think.
I unironically loved the inventory screen in neverwinter nights 1. I loved each item getting its own hand drawn illustration instead of just using the 3d model of the item. Them taking up different amounts of space too was chefs kiss
>>724246479These UI's scale infinitely like vector graphics>>724246372>>724246396These don't and therefore are not good to have, because now you need a different UI for every platform and resolution.
>>724276493Sovl
>>724246479>consolesBut you've cherry picked. Like futuristic games are probably fine having minimalist UI like that. And you left out Kingdom Come Deliverance, which has a modern rendition of your "good" UIs.
>>724277295And an amazing game with a nice twist on Lovecraftian horror. I still find it hard to believe it went through Nintendo's control.
>>724246372>>724246396>>724246479UX people have been given too much say on the final product. Probably because they're a "new" addition to software development. Due to lack of experience working with them, it's difficult for a project lead to know when to tell them to stfu. At a certain point form is more important than function.
Sneed
>>724259701They were all experimenting until someone found the right formula, it was perfected and everybody else copied it. That's capitalism for you.
There are two schools of thought when it comes to game UI:>the UI should complement the visual style of the game and should actively take part in said style for mood/atmosphere/immersion>the UI should stay away from the game as much as possible and should therefor be minimal and simplistic as to not disturb the player while the 'actual' art does the heavy visual liftingRight now companies prefer the latter.
