the great debate
Metroid > Halo
>>724251742Totally different in almost every way if we're talking about gameplay and presentation.Graphically it's going to be Halo, Soundtrack is Halo (though Prime had a great OST too), Story is Halo, Prime wins in gameplay in pretty much every way though.
>>724251742https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-mR79GErU
>>724251742Metroid Prime is a legitimately bad game, almost insulting coming straight from Super.Halo CE is a really great and innovative game held back slightly by its copy-pasted levels (which you then backtrqfk through in later missions) and jank checkpoint system
>>724252023>Graphically it's going to be Halo>Prime wins in gameplayIs it opposite day? Prime looks better than Halo, but Halo plays better than Prime. Prime has some very dated FPS gameplay.
>>724251742Both were great. Extremely different, nothing in common but a first person view, very stupid to even compare them.
>>7242517422 completely different games. Halo is an arena shooter and prime is a first person action adventure game
>>724251742Halo. Prime is boring dogshit like most shitcube slop overhyped by cubies spics
>babbys first fpsjej
>>724252149>Prime has some very dated FPS gameplay.I mean so does Halo CE, but Prime had some variety in it's gameplay beyond press R1 to winAnd Halo was an Xbox launch title which graphically blew anything on the Gamecube out of the water
>>724251742Metroid Prime is dogshit trash. Super Metroid is overrated but still miles better than that piece of shit.>one-stick first person movement feels terrible >extremely cramped 60° FOV especially bad since you must lock in place to be able to even turn your head slightly>for some reason manually aiming up and down is some herculean effort and you must jam the stick for like 5+ seconds just to slowly crawl your arm up>numerous areas are near pitch black dark with no flashlight (or even suit glow)>constant backtracking and ping-ponging to opposite ends of the world>new power-up paths all result in dead-ends aside from the one prescribed critical path (the game even recognizes its progression and navigation are terrible which is why it blatantly signposts it with a literal quest marker)>bosses are dull Simon Says dogshit>no consistent way to farm missiles back if you waste them aside from backtracking all the way back to the ship or one of the very rare missile refill stations>scanning shit constantly is incredibly tedious and boring>enemies offer no incentive to bother with them and you can just run right past 90% of them barely taking a scratch>environments are extremely bland and generic (hot zone, cold zone, grass zone, rock zone)>environments are very visually flat and hard to read (especially in conjunction with the narrow FOV and restricted camera movement)>first-person platforming sections with a 60° FOV unsurprisingly feel terrible>map system is mostly fine except transitions between areas require you to completely exit that area, scroll over to the other area map, and then manually line up where the two meet >movement is incredibly underwhelming compared to Super Metroid and you are constantly starting and stopping>cockblocks you at the end with massive long backtracking fetch quest for all the remaining chozo artifacts
>>724252302>I mean so does Halo CENo it doesn't, I actually played CE last night and it still plays great.
>>724252227Halo fans should not be throwing around brown accusations.
>>724251742Halo: CE every day of the week. 3D Metroid sucks ass.
>>724252315>cockblocks you at the end with massive long backtracking fetch quest for all the remaining chozo artifactsThat section is actually short if you can read and comprehend 3D space.
>>724252643Backtracking throught the entire game is not short at all even if you know exactly where they are (which is a big if), and it's a monumentally tedious task at the end
>>724252742>(which is a big if)I know most console FPS games ask much less, but please just read.
Halo is showing it's age a lot worse than Prime does. It's almost painful to replay CE these days and I say that as a person who loves CE.
>>724252860Retard
>>724251742>what's better, apples or oranges?
>>724253281Fucking Mastercard.
>>724252978Played both this year. Halo CE aged MILES better than Metroid Prime. The MP remake would probably be closer though (but still worse)
>>724253237Talking to yourself? Each artifact's description tells you exactly which room its in. One with a functioning brain and easily map out a path to collect them, along with any missed optional upgrades on the way. It's actually a serene ending bit for those with a triple digit IQ.
>>724252742>(which is a big if)the artifact temple at the very start of the game tells you exactly where to find all of them.Also, it's a metroidvania. Learn to navigate efficiently.
>>724251742what debate they don't play like anything close to there are no power upgrades in halo.
>>724251742Halo and it's not even close.
>>724252978this but the complete opposite
>>724252023Halo CE looks like an N64 game
>>724253654You need glasses.
>>724253654Halo CE looks like an first Xbox game
>>724252978As a Prime lover, Prime is dogshit in 2025
>>724252023Prime also had better level design. The early parts of Halo was great but it starts to fall off especially when the flood show up.
>>724251742Both 100/100 tier games, but I'd give it Halo because of co op
As someone who played both recently, Halo is way better, Prime has some extremely dated mechanics with the constant scanning and abilities that only work in 2D and auto targeting, it was clearly a tendies first first person game ever
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>>724251742they're too different to compare but prime has objectively aged better
>>724253789>Prime also had better level designThe aggressive and shallow back tracking that makes up the game is terrible level design.
>>724254056plebeian
>>724254056the only instance of bad backtracking in prime is having to go out of phazon mines halfway in, contrast this with Halo CE where half its levels are reused just reversed
>>724251742Xbox controller is still less shit than the gamecube so Halo wins.
>>724254047a fps where you only have a single stick has aged better?hilarious
Prime > Halo CEBut Halo 1 to Reach is a better series compared to Metroid
>>724254174Ignoring how Magmoor is the thoroughfare for the majority of the game and the depressingly cramped level design used to hide the load times makes playing the game a tiring and uninteresting experience. Not to mention how boring the combat is. Zero dynamism to it.
>>724251742Treating the right analog stick as a face button is a better choice than pretending that it is adequate for controlling a camera in an FPS.>>724252149>dated FPS gameplayIt's a console FPS without even the benefit of a gyro, of course it is dated.
>>724254256Two analog sticks ruined FPS games forever. Console aiming will always be shit.
>>724254174>the only instance of bad backtracking in prime is having to go out of phazon mines halfway inThe grapple beam shortcut makes it a nonissue.
>>724251742Prime is so fucking boring, the only good thing about it is the platforming. Halo mogs the shit out of it.
>>724254256prime is designed with lock on in mind whereas halo is designed around precise aiming in an era without gyro + flick stick options on controllers. And obviously aiming isn't the only aspect of the games. >>724254367It's fine coming back, going out is the bad part
>>724254357Go away PC lard, no one is talking to you
>>724254458You can get the grapple beam on the way out. The shortcut is directly opposite.
>>724254356>Treating the right analog stick as a face button is a better choice than pretending that it is adequate for controlling a camera in an FPS.Utterly insane statement.
>>724254458lock on is a dated design
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>>724251742halo 1 is about to be on switch 2 lol
>>724254545It's the superior option since it emphasizes movement over aiming.
>>724254634Halo demonstrates you don't need to sacrifice one for the other.
>>724251742Prime is still featured on greatest games of all times lists, you'll seldom find halo, especially halo 1, and for good reason.
>>724254747Halo has terribly slow movement though, and shitty aiming.
>>724254521FPS is just not a good idea for console controllers, since you're practically limiting yourself to just the shoulder buttons, so the gameplay is usually overly simplistic or only uses one analog stick at a time anyway.>>724254747Yes, Halo demonstrates that you can always just sacrifice both at the same time.
>>724254808>>724254826This is a skill issue. Halo has better aiming and movement than Metroid.
>>724254747movement in halo sucks though
>>724254808>Halo has terribly slow movement thoughNo more slower than Prime.>shitty aiming.that's not true at all.
>>724254864How?
>>724254861prime 1 has way the fuck better movement than halo 1. you have no idea what you're talking about.
I just played the Halo mission again. It's a timeless game, not one thing felt dated
>>724254869Master Chief would find it impossible to dodge space pirate attacks with his slowmotion movement speed and no strafe jumping.
>>724254808it has perfect aiming, don't blame the game for being trash at it
>>724254961>prime 1 has way the fuck betterGonna have to stop you right there.
>>724255029>Master Chief would find it impossible to dodge space pirate attacksAn interesting premise, but I don't think it's true.
>>724255047Halo has borderline lock on with its auto aim. Only it's worse because you can't manually trigger it.
>>724254826>FPS is just not a good idea for console controllers, since you're practically limiting yourself to just the shoulder buttons, so the gameplay is usually overly simplistic or only uses one analog stick at a time anyway.how many FPS games even use more than 4 buttons/keys mid fight? >>724254959Movement is very floaty and too slow for the environments it takes place in. This is circumvented by the vehicles but those aren't always available. Prime is slow and floaty too but the game is designed properly around that, similar to super metroid. Not getting into movement tech of both games, just what they are at their base
>>724254754lol you're delusional, no one cares about metroon prime
>>724254961it's dogshit compared to 2D metroid, Prime is a pointless series, garbage fps gameplay and inferior metroid gameplay to 2D, they should cancel the Prime series
>>724255116it definitely is gameplay wise, halo doesn't have a dodge. There would be no way to deal with the homing attacks of prime >>724255163>lol you're delusional, no one cares about metroon prime
>>7242551852D metroids improved movement after super at the cost of having dogshit level design/exploration. I'll gladly take the latter over the former for a metroidvania which is what 2D metroid/prime has been since fusion/prime
>>724255258halo is highermetrannies lost and their shitty bulldyke backtracking simulator
>>724251742The games only retarded americans care about? Yeah they're both overrated garbage.
>>724255414It's not, the originals are the same. The remasters on the other hand have prime being higher because the game hasn't aged poorly
>>724255372Dread was good and sold more than Prime despite 2D games being seen as lesser games by normies, even they know Prime is trash
>>724255486dread selling 200K more than a gamecube game as a switch title isn't an achievement. Prime 4 will be the highest selling in about a month.
>>724251742Its Prime, hands down. But I think i like Halo 2 more than Prime 1? Its definitely better than Prime 2.
>>724251742Metroid Prime is way better and I grew up being a Halo CE enjoyer. Metroid Prime made me realize Halo has always been overrated.
>>724255127>Movement is very floaty and too slow for the environments it takes place inIncorrect, but interesting to see how the mind of prime fans works. The physics are perfect for the type of game it is. Every step has momentum, momentum is influenced by explosions, geometry and the player can control and counter-act influential forces. It's fine tuned and predictable with tons of fine grain reactions to your actions. demonstrating its sophistication as a game mechanic.>Prime is slow and floaty too but the game is designed properly around thatIt is designed to mitigate load screens so your movement speed and progression rate has to be controlled. People will praise this in one breath but not understand the consequences in another. The game can only go so fast because it is juggling environment data room by room. It is inherently a slow game, and the game "capitalizes" on it with incredibly slow back tracking. Possibly some of the worst world design ever.>Not getting into movement tech of both gamesHalo's movement tech is unavoidable, anyone will experience it in standard play. Prime's is obtuse and reliant on hyper specific exploits the developers actively patch out of later releases.
>>724255372>2D metroids improved movement after superyou got hard filtered
>>724255582The slop that looks like Halo 4?Easy bomb
>>724255258>it definitely is gameplay wise, halo doesn't have a dodge. There would be no way to deal with the homing attacks of primeSo you are saying that because Metroid has an attack in which the only response is a simple button press, the movement is better than Halo, which has a dozen different types of attacks that can all be dodged using the control stick and jump button? Am I getting this right?
I love how in both games you land on a strange 'planet'. I love just walking around as soon as you reach Tallon Overworld/Halo. Love the look of both worlds.
>>724255672Hard to believe this webm isn't slowed down. Talk about a brutal self own.
>>724255672>talking about movement>shows physics engine>It is designed to mitigate load screens so your movement speed and progression rate has to be controlled.scan dashing and boost balling doesn't alter loading so you're wrong
>>724255627Funny i grew up with Prime and i just realized Prime was shit after touching an xbox controller
>>724255627metroid prime is a walking sim and halo is an actual game
>>724255860You spend more time walking through the same copy pasted environments in Halo than Prime.
>>724252023>Graphically it's going to be Halo, Soundtrack is HaloAbsolutely not. Halo's OST is great, but it's no Prime. Visually, Halo looked good then, but is dated now. Prime will always look amazing.
Im sure we can all agree that 'The Library' is worse than anything from Prime 1/2.
>>724255731they are improved overall, the only exception is the wall jump which has been inferior in all the entries after super (ZM is close though)>>724255743no, metroid has all those too in addition to having a dodge + morph ball/boost balling out of danger
>>724254357This. Dual Stick is awful.
>>724255960The Prime series is the library on repeat but without the good gameplay in Halo
>>724255960Imagine being afraid of reading haha
>>724251742halo wins in gameplay, lore, controls, music, levels. prime doesnt do anything particularly good
I had an Xbox with a Halo demo and remember thinking it was dogshit and never touched another Halo game because of that. Metroid Prime is a masterpiece.
>>724255486this is the wrong angle to go with when prime 4 is going to shatter sales figures in a bit
>>724256039Nostalgia rot should be considered a real illness
>>724255921Disagree, considering the back tracking in prime is slow and frequent.
>>724255921in halo theres actual combat. you drive in vehicles and shoot stuff. in metroid you just walk around and read scan logs like a pussy. theres no difficulty settings and the game punishes you for exploration by making it even easier than it already is
>>724255938the Halo theme is well known by people who have never even touched the games.Prime had a great OST but I couldn't even remember any of it off the top of my head
>>724256103It will destroy metroid prime 2's sales figures record.
>>724256142It's really neither. Also, it's clear retards in this thread can't use the morphball button.
>>724255938>but it's no Primeboring and forgettable? agreed
>>724256165>theres no difficulty settingsnice job exposing yourself
>>724255860>better planet exploration>better aliens>better musicPrime clears Halo easily. In fact one of the most common complaints about CE is its copy pasted level design. Never heard this used against the first Prime. So you can't ride vehicles? Who gives a fuck big deal. This was made better in later Halo games anyways although they then proceeded to nerf vehicles hard with the plasma pistol, rockets, missle pod, spartan laser, and more.
>>724251742Halo. Great atmosphere and fun multiplayer. I never liked Prime and consider Super Metroid to be the only really good game in the series.
>>724256103Japs hate Prime
>>724256348japs hate metroid in general except the original NES game, that doesn't change anything. Sales are largely out of japan for the series
So which place has more aura? Tallon Overworld?
>>724256323No one one knows what any of this shit from Prime is, everyone knows what a Halo grunt looks like and the Halo theme, Prime is objectivelly just a forgettable series
>>724256203>but I couldn't even remember any of it off the top of my headYou being an idiot doesn't matter. I can recall 100% of Prime's OST, and often do. Magmoor, Phendrana Drifts, both Talon IV overworld themes, the Space Pirate battle theme, etc. The Title Theme is the ONLY Halo song I or anyone else can remember.>the Halo theme is well known by people who have never even touched the gameslmao, what level of delusion is this?
>>724256323>>better planet exploration>>better aliens>>better musicthats movie game shit. halo has better gameplay. period. better co-op, better online, more replayability, more challenging
>>724251742How does Metroid Prime compare to Halo ODST and/or Reach? I feel like those would be more comparable to Prime than the mainline Halo games. Especially ODST from what I've seen of it.
>>724256470or Halo
>>724256323>Never heard this used against the first PrimeNobody actually talks about Metroid Prime.
>>724256348they hate all journoslop movie games
>>724256262https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbbUv1hz6mENah, this mogs anything Halo offers, including the Main Theme.
>>724255672Back tracking is a staple of the series. And faggots that constantly get annoyed by back tracking in games simply hate immersion in video games. They disguise their hatred of it by claiming it to be lazy. Do you faggots constantly go from new environment to new environment in your day to day life? No that would be impossible. Yet when it comes to video games you dopamine starved fags just have to constantly be shoehorned into new environments nonstop. I wonder how these clowns get any enjoyment out of multiplayer games. Aren't you playing the same map over and over again? In this case hang em high?
>>724256546
Halo also has vehicles that are a ton of fun. I think the scanning is the most boring shit there is.
>>724251742There is no debate, prime is still considered one of the best games of all time whereas no one outside of hardcore halo fans give a fuck about CE. Halo lived and died on production values/being able to fuck around with friends in an era where console fpses were sparse, it's no wonder series like CoD completely stole its thunder.
>>724256654Only hardcore american tendies even know what Prime is, no one else cares about it
>>724256606>bro fl studio3 beats with generic theremin samples...The music in prime is insanely forgettable, which is why nobody brings it up.
>>724256487The iconic Halo theme has way transcended the games themselves, you could play it in public and like 90% of people will recognize it
>>724256752>bro fl studio3 beats with generic choir samples...The music in halo is insanely forgettable, which is why nobody brings it up.
>>724251742There is no debate, one required a remaster because it wasn't dated on release, one required a remake because it was dated on release. That should tell which one is better out of the gate.
>>724256654>prime is still considered one of the best games of all timewalking sim journoslop. the last of us, 2002 edition.
>>724256483Halo CE literally only throws grunts, jackals, elites and occasionally hunters at you. Then after 5 levels of this they finally change things up a bit by introducing the Flood which is essentially just this games version of zombies. Which is fine but that is what it is. Prime 1 has way more variety than Halo CE. I'm pretty sure within just 1 hour you will have seen more alien life in Prime than the entire campaign of Halo CE.
>>724256794Yeah, that's what we call "just baldface lying". May as well claim the sky is red and grass is purple.
>>724256806>The music in halo is insanely forgettablePrime fans don't love their game, they just hate everything else.
>>724256606Lmfao, cubies are mentally ill
>>724255372>after super at the cost of having dogshit level design/exploration.shooting every wall and floor you see was a way to artificially stretch out the games, can't believe you want that shit back
>>724255738>looks like halo 4Fun fact, retro artists worked on halo 4, so halo 4 looks more like prime, not the other way around. Not coincidentally, that was also the only good part of halo 4.
>>724256606If that's the best you can show us, I'm really sorry but even some of the Halo filler tracks mog that to deathhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhf0hMuy62Q
>>724256832halo evolved and became dated against itself. halo 2 was an incredible step up from 1. metroid prime was the same shit for the whole trilogy.
>>724256906>The music in Prime is insanely forgettableHalo fans don't love their game, they just hate everything else.
>>724256895Most enemies in metroid prime are stationary or at best, can only be hurt in context sensitive situations. It handles things a lot worse than Halo.
>>724256895It's more interesting how you fight the covenant than any of the Prime series, CE easily shits on it in combat, Legendary is known to be the best "hard mode" of any FPS game
>>724256905Bro you can't be serious, either you don't know what I'm talking about or you live under a rockThere's video after video of random people singing the chant from the main menu
>>724256938>random electronic noise and theramin notesAre you ever going to post music, or just a cat hitting a soundboard?
>>724256632inspired by mt baker snoqualmie national forest
>>724256832>There is no debate, one required a remaster because it wasn't dated on release, one required a remake because it was dated on release. That should tell which one is better out of the gate.The Remake has very few changes. It's mostly a visual upgrade.
>>724252978Exactly, CE is like the original Metroid, it's cool to look at it from a, it's an old game standpoint, but man, is Halo clearly a game made for its time. Halo Campaign Evolved was needed whether Halo fans wanted it or not. It was time for Halo to get its Metroid Zero Mission treatment. Super Metroid, Halo 2, and Halo 3 are next on the list of full remakes to complete this long drawn-out story.
> The more things change, the more they stay the same
>>724257018>Legendary is known to be the best "hard mode" of any FPS gameJust how ignorant are Halo fans exactly? We're seeing in real time in this very thread they know literally nothing about video games.
>>724256906halo has 1 notable song. That said, metroid music is also overrated as fuck
>>724257056Metroid fans don't have genuine opinions, they simply make things up to cause strife.
>>724256470>>724256546I'm one of the few that always enjoyed Halo CE's artstyle the most of all the Halo games. Everything from its lighting to its forerunner structures is the best imo in this game. Its biggest issue in regards to its environments is just the reuse of the levels really so you don't get as much as many probably would have wanted. There is a greatness to its super simplicity that the later games never replicated and especially not the 343 games.With that said though, Prime has the better world. Especially Phendrana
>>724257056There sure isn't. >random peopleNo, there are people who played halo a lot humming the only song in the game. >>724257112Halo fans don't have genuine opinions, they simply make things up to cause strife.
>>724257108Name some better hardcore modes that don't just up the enemy damage and give you less health, Legendary redesigns the encounters entirely
>>7242551852D Metroid is ok but the design isn't very good. There are like 3 or 4 ways to break walls that all look identical until you bomb or scan them so you can see a generic png spawn on them. Prime is way more intuitive and immersive.
>>724256920>shooting every wall and floor you see was a way to artificially stretch out the games, can't believe you want that shit backthe 2D games still do that, except they do it worse than super. The Prime games were smart enough to contextualize progression elements like that into their actual levels/worlds while the 2D games are still doing the tired destructible block stuff.
How's the MasterChef collection?
>>724254861If the game aims for you, it's shit. Prime also shits on Halo in movement. You Halofags really don't know how dumb down as an FPS game Halo was.
>>724257202>Name some better hardcore modes that don't just up the enemy damage and give you less healthEvery notable PC FPS game released years prior to Halo.
>>724256606kek listening to this right now before I even opened the link. Glad you posted this couldn't agree more the song is great to listen to.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYoVJF9DWUY
John Halo x Metroid crossover would be kino
>>724257257Like?Prove you have played them, i doubt you have even touched Doom
>>724257109>halo has 1 notable songCovenant Dance, Ambient Wonder, On a Pale Horse, Walk in the Woods, which one is the notable one?
>>724256794only true in burger land
>>724257316>Like?All of them. It was a standard practice.
>>724255627Metroid Prime did this along with multiple FPS games I played from the 90s to the early 2000s, and beyond. I couldn't go back to Halo until they changed it.
>>724257375You didn't play anything, got it
>>724257371Well sure but nowhere on earth will people ever instinctively recognize Metroid Prime music
>>724256794That speaks more to Marty's abilities then the rest of the team though according to your own logic.
>>724251742They are both timeless masterpieces, some of, if not, the best games ever.
>>724256535Metroid Prime is better than Halo, in general
>>724257483theyre both mid tbqh
>>724257476I agree, Marty was a legend and I knew bungie was cooked when they got rid of him
>>724257454>not recognizing beep boop boop boop beep>calling yourself a gamerMiyamoto frowns upon you.
>>724256794Literal delusion, what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
>>724257093super metroid doesn't need a remake and post-super sakamoto/mercury steam would fuck it up. You shouldn't want a halo 2/3 remake anyway since you know they'll fuck that up too. Prime Remaster having 0 gameplay changes and maintaining the critical acclaim of the original is a statement
>>724251742what debate?the shittiest fps ever vs an alright action game
>>724257448You turn to the left in Doom and see a difference on the higher difficulties. Changing enemy placements was standard practice for FPS games.
>>724251742Metroid Prime 1 > Halo CE as a designed gameHalo CE is more relatable and I think the Halo trilogy trumps the Prime trilogy.
>>724257343the theme song. Idk about all that other stuff
>>724257625>Prime Remaster having 0 gameplay changesGoes to show how many fans of Prime have played Remastered.
>>724257608>Nintendies who don't leave their house except to get their doordash from the front porch calling anyone else delusional
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLLE_PvJ5mYThis easily clears>OOOOOH OOOOOH OOOOOOOOOH OH OH OH OOOOOOOH
>>724257641>mp is shitty and halo actually has actionbased
>>724256985>>724257018Prime retained much of the platforming roots of its 2D ancestor. Its mean to be a platformer game just as much as it is a shooter. Halo CE's remake is including sprint which should tell you everything you need to know about what modern gamers think about Halo. Prime 1's remaster did not have to shoehorn in such a mechanic because the game is still fantastic to this day.
>>724257707prime R doesn't have any changes to its gameplay
>>724257714I'm confused, you claim that """tendies""" are casuals, but also that they are neets. It can't be both, Pajeet.
>>724257779>Prime retained much of the platforming roots of its 2D ancestorBy making it one of the slowest, worst controlling FPS games of all time. It's so bad most of its fans agree it's not even an FPS.
>>724257723This is the one song you could probably claim is easily recognizable, but only really to people who have played the games
>>724256938This slow boring song puts me to sleep kek.Meanwhile this song is so badass they had to bring it back again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QwjHWnG--Q
>>724257839>By making it one of the slowest, worst controlling FPS games of all timemost self-aware halo fan
>>724257839>one of the slowest, worst controlling FPS games of all time.You're describing Halo.
>>724257869It sounds like a low quality midi version of the halo theme. You can tell it was inspired by Marty's music.
>>724257092>Chief can Sprint now>Chief can hijack vehicles>Chief can now use the Energy Sword, Fuel Rod Gun, and Sentinel Beam>Battle Rifle and Needle Rifle are in the game>Chief can drive a Wraith>Marines can drive Warthogs>Chief now has regenerating health meaning he no longer needs health packs or Overshields>Hunters no longer die from one pistol shot>UNSC vehicles can be destroyed now>repetitive level designs are being redesigned>three new prequel missions>Flood will have transformations similar to Halo 3's>Flood Tank Forms are in>other new enemy types are in>can now get on the Warthog's bumper>new dialog, lore, and canon>Halo 2 and 3 remakes are in the workThe remake changes a lot>>724256956Problem with Halo 2 on up, they sucked harder than the first Halo game, so it didn't matter.
>>724253419>just backtrack to the temple then use a single vague one line hint to figure out the exact position of the chozo artifact within the hundreds of labyrinthine rooms then backtrack all the way back there, then repeat for each remaining artifactFuck off you subhuman retard. Your parents really wish you were dead.
>>724257832>ctrl+f "casual">nobody has used the word except you just nowYou're having a genuine mental breakdown right now
>>724257839?Wer're talking about prime, not halo
>>724257932>Energy Sword, Fuel Rod Gun, and Sentinel BeamIn CE? Jesus, what a shitshow.
>>724257018>Legendary is known to be the best "hard mode" of any FPS gameDoom eats its lunch and it released in 93.
>>724257112Metroid fans love their series and are open to new ideas, Halofags don't know what they want, they get what they want and then bitch. Even Halo Studios makes jokes about this. You faggots hate Halo 5, now you want that trash on PC and PlayStation.
>>724257979>>724257901>>724257894Correct, we're not talking about Halo which was never originally a 2D platformer. Prime fans demonstrating they've never played any games before, again.
>>724257092campaign evolved has fundamental mechanical changes
>>724258025It's not CE, it's a DLC for Infinite
>>724257932>the company in charge of the halo remake arent blatant thieves like jewtendo so original badshit take
>>724257235Not worth playing unless you have the PC version to play the version of Halo that got cut because Bungie bent over to Microsoft.
>>724257943Most intelligent Halo fan.
>>724257235
how's the metroid remaster? I kinda want to try on switch for free
>>724257960I never said the word was used. An implication is still a statement. Halofags can't even read.
>>724251742halo multiplayer >> metroid primehalo single player <<<< metroid prime
>>724251742>the great debateWhat's the debate? The first Halo game was great for its time, and 3D Metroid is literal fucking cancer.
>>724257312It would
>>724257943the temple statues literally color code the room name in their descriptions yet that's too much for you. Then you have the nerve to call anyone else a subhuman.
>>724258061This thread is really showing the immense intellect of the Halo fanbase.
>>724251742>HaloFun singleplayer campaign with a fun multiplayer.>MetroidScanning simulator with awful first person platforming and backtracking that's even worse than the second half of Halo's campaign.It's genuinely not even fucking close in the slightest bit. Halo functions way better as an engaging video game with its combat, its story, and the overall progression to its finale. It doesn't just suddenly ask you to go find the chaos emeralds when you're close to the end, it keeps going and the pacing is great. Both games have fantastic music though so I'm not even gonna shit talk Prime on that. I can't stand many things about how Prime plays, but at least it's got nice music.
>>724257235Don't listen to the shills. It was garbage for years after its release. They only got the motivation to fix it since they wanted to shoehorn in paid cosmetics into the games. Its still a mess of a collection and the remasters of 1 and 2 are actually based around the PC version rather than the Xbox version. The PC version of Halo CE has some effects missing that were on the Xbox version. It isn't as soulful for lack of a better way to put it.The multiplayer is so far from its heyday on all games it isn't funny. Yeah sure its old but people are still playing games like Counterstrike and Team Fortress. MCC would have retained a lot more players had they not butchered the holy hell out of the game to start with. The matchmaking will never ever be as good as it was from the original game.Get it only because you do get a ton of games for it and its a lot of great campaign content. But its not the collection it should have been from the start. Playing Halo 3 in 60fps did feel way better at least.
>>724258327>Scanning simulator with awful first person platforming and backtracking that's even worse than the second half of Halo's campaignSee, when you say blatantly wrong shit, nobody is going to take your posts seriously. Bait needs subtlety.
>>724258181The best way to play prime if you want a regular playthrough. If you want to sequence break, the original GC version is what you want>>724258327>It doesn't just suddenly ask you to go find the chaos emeralds when you're close to the end, instead it reuses half its levels, very cool. almost all artifacts can be collected before the end btw.
>Marty mogs the entire Prime OST with nothing but drum samplesHow did he do it?https://youtu.be/CulUEa_z71U?si=_trKZaFMyZroJDtYhttps://youtu.be/4n0EUieJQsM?si=K3rlefu48V3Syhld
>>724257625>super metroid doesn't need a remake and post-super sakamoto/mercury steam would fuck it upIt does, MercurySteam needs to make this game so it can help with Metroid "6", plus, this would bring Super Metroid up to date with current Metroid and Sakamoto can make it fit with his lore and canon before he retires.>You shouldn't want a halo 2/3 remake anyway since you know they'll fuck that up tooHalo 2 needs to gut the alien sections and need a complete rework on its level design, boss fights, everything. Halo 3 had some poor linear level designs here and there while the Flood levels were complete garbage. Plus, I want my Gravemind boss fight, dammit!
I have tendie fatigueOcarina of time is not the best game of all timePrime is not goodSmash is garbage3D Mario is shitThe only good IP you have is 2D Mario games from before the 2000's
>>724258465>How did he do it?Effortlessly.
>>724258465This is solid bait. Music is subjective enough that someone suffering some sort of ear cancer could hear these and think they're good. It's believable that some poor fool who can't hear right would actually claim these are better than even a sound effect reel from Prime.>>724258619You can certainly tell he put in no effort, I'll give you that.
>>724257894kek got em
>>724258464>almost all artifacts can be collected before the end btw.Keep in mind the Halo fans in this thread can not even decipher the artifact hints.
>>724258612They were voted worst fanbase on /v/ of all places. It's safe to say everyone is done with tendies. Tendies do not realize what time it is.
>>724257943The artifact hunt is legitimately the best part of the game and gives you an excuse go through all the rooms again to listen for powerups you missed on the way to the artifact rooms
>>724258025Everyone wanted to use these guns since they played Halo CE, way to show not only your age, but how you're a larping faggot who isn't actually a Halo fan.>>724258118Halo was dated on release.
>>724258715No they weren't, Sony fans were, both times there was a major poll.
>>724258729>The artifact hunt is legitimately the best part of the gameIt's really boring.
>>724258464>The best way to play prime if you want a regular playthroughThanks! I want to beat this one first to see if I should get the new one.
>>724258675Tendie cope is hilarious lol, here's more drums to mog your shitty midi """""soundtrack"""""https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-JisjFOfK0
>>724257943I hated them until I figured it out, after that, Prime 1 was fun as hell. So good, that even the devs couldn't change the gameplay, they perfected it in the first game.
>>724258794that's metroon prime in a nutshell
This is better than any song or theme in Any Halo game or any other Prime game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6N0A1U_ZhE
>>724258769Incorrect, also weirdly defensive.>>724258836Crazy there's over 50 tracks in Prime and they all sound like discount Halo music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDReqFj4yeM
>>724258535let me break this down:>It does, MercurySteam needs to make this game so it can help with Metroid "6"Ignoring the fact that mercurysteam is in a complete shit state right now after their last game, working on an SM remake isn't going to help them make metroid 6 in any way, in fact it'll take resources away >this would bring Super Metroid up to date with current Metroid The current metroid games are inferior to super so this isn't a good thing>Sakamoto can make it fit with his lore and canon before he retires.1. No one gives a fuck about metroid's story2. Sakamoto's games have been filled to the bring with plot holes/inconsistencies since fusion, he wouldn't make it "fit" into anything. The original super is a quasi-reboot/sequel to metroid 1 to begin with. >Halo 2 needs to gut the alien sections and need a complete rework on its level design, boss fights, everythingok but you assume remaking it will be better when in every instance of halo's remasters/remakes, they are inferior to the original
>>724258836When are you going to post music?
>>724251742Real answer is timesplitters 2.
>>724258465Marty's music was good for one game, he kept repeating the same shit for three games straight, even somewhat in the prequel too. Metroid Prime songs are still memorable, even Prime 4 has great music out of the gate. Nips > us Burgers on this, man.
>>724258794No, it's the best part for anyone without ADHD who only plays games to beat it as quickly as possible.
>>724258930>Incorrect, also weirdly defensive.How new are you?
>>724258807you're welcome. New one seems to be taking more from prime 2 than the other games from what we've seen so far, if that means anything
>>724258612I have Halofag fatigue, you guys been shitting up the board since Campaign Evolved was announced.
>>724259007Sucks you missed the latest poll.
>>724258993Using leitmotifs as skillfully as Marty did is actually really difficult for composers, he's probably one of if not the best to ever work in Vidya
>>724259118Soule mogs
>>724259159He's too generic.
>>724259080Ce deserves to be shit on.
>>724251742Metroid Prime is about puzzles and progressively getting better after unlocking pathways with new upgrades you acquire along the way. It's about exploring you're area and discovering new paths in areas you've visited. Also Metroid Prime has light horror elements from it being based on the Alien movies. Does Halo have this?
>>724258934>Ignoring the fact that mercurysteam is in a complete shit state right now after their last game, working on an SM remake isn't going to help them make metroid 6 in any way, in fact it'll take resources awayThey can grow a pair and get over it, crunching needs to come back to the extreme.>The current metroid games are inferior to super so this isn't a good thingSuper is showing its age, plus Dread has added questions that must be answered.>1. No one gives a fuck about metroid's storyOn the contrary>2. Sakamoto's games have been filled to the bring with plot holes/inconsistencies since fusion, he wouldn't make it "fit" into anything. The original super is a quasi-reboot/sequel to metroid 1 to begin with.Fusion was the start of the new canon for Metroid, why do you think Metroid's 1 and 2 needed to be remade.>ok but you assume remaking it will be better when in every instance of halo's remasters/remakesYes>they are inferior to the originalNo
>>724258930>Incorrect, also weirdly defensive.I don't know what to tell you. Both major polls on /v/ over the last 20 years for company fanbases specifically have ended with Sony in first. Sorry? I mean, I've had every PS device except the PS5, and I'm inclined to agree.
>>724259221Aliens had a bigger impact on video games than it did movies, and its effects on the latter were massive too. That is to say: both games were inspired by Aliens to various degrees.
>>724259339You missed the latest one, sucks, but you need to realize what time it is.
>>724259080At least it's games and not weird cuck fanart of mario pokemon and zelda characters
>>724258976sounds like snoy cope honestly. Timesplitters is funny 5 minutes when you're a kid because >lol monkey throws bricks at t-rex and gingerbread manThey're good games but they're nothing compared to Halo and Metroid Prime
>>724259475>>lol monkey throws bricks at t-rex and gingerbread manSignificantly more entertaining than any Metroid.
>>724259317I wasn't talking about the crunch, I was talking about their last game bombing after another bomb (space lords) >Dread has added questions that must be answered.what does a super remake have to do with this? >Fusion was the start of the new canon for Metroid, why do you think Metroid's 1 and 2 needed to be remade.because 1/2 were legitimately outdated, super is not>halo CE anniversary isn't inferior to the originalwhatever you say m8
>>724251742Halo is 6/10, pure mediocre slop.Metroid Prime though is pure garbo, so Master Chief wins here
>>724259118This post has some of the worst dunning kruger effect I've ever witnessed. Uematsu, David Wise, Shimomura, Kondo, the Follin brothers, even Motoi Sakuraba among many others all have vastly more impressive OSTs under their belts, and make much better use of leitmotif. Kondo is a master of the craft.
>>724259475>>lol monkey throws bricks at t-rex and gingerbread manThat says more about you're cheating faggot ass, TS is fun as fuck
>>724259386No, sadly I live on this site and couldn't miss one if I wanted to. Care to post this pretend poll you invented?
>>724257943>then repeatYou can scan all the hinta at once and then look at the hints in your log book at any time AND you only need missiles to enter the area and guess what you walk by soon after getting missiles?
>>724259684Use archive.>>724259602Gave up the goose at the end.
>>724259208(You) deserve to be shit on
>>724259756So you can't post the poll because it doesn't exist. Gotcha.
Neither. Metroid was peak on SNES along with everything nintendo. SNES games were works of digital art straight comparable to the mona lisa. Metroid prime is a joke along with everything from the N64 and beyond from nintendo except pikmin and first 2 gens of pokemon. As for halo, it's a product of microsoft along with sh*tbox. A company that should be shut down and every data center blasted with dynamite since their software peaked at windows 2000 and office 2003 and everything since has been nothing but a growing cancer that should be EMP'd.
>>724259391It's worse, it's furfag shit
>>724259892>except pikminoutrageously shit taste
I wasn't super into FPSs until I started playing quake and other boomer shooters. a few years ago I played through halo for the first time, half expecting to kinda dislike it after seeing the "babys first FPS" discourse from oldheads. All in all, was pleasantly surprised and it was decently fun. Soundtrack was better than I would expect it to be but I can't really remember songs other than the main theme
>>724257082there's areas in NE Oregon / Central Washington that look identical to halo 3. There's a cool feeling seeing it in person when it all clicks together.
>>724259756>Gave up the goose at the end.How so?
They're too different to compare directly on anything besides art and setting.
>>724260189Use your imagination.
>>724260237But you're the one who said it...
>>724260089halo CE’s cover looks like the Cascadia flag
>>724258216Still lying like the disingenuous autistic rat you are. Color coding the zone does little when each zone has dozens of rooms and even within that room, it's still hidden well. Not to mention you can't even view all the hints at once, you have to get prior ones to unlock new ones, so more backtracking back to the temple.If playing blind/no guide, the artifact hunt usually takes AT LEAST 2-3 hours, usually much longer, of pure obnoxious backtracking and shitty first person platforming at the very end of the game, (even assuming you found a few artifacts naturally throughout the game), and this is after you just spent the entire game incessantly backtracking and doing shitty first person platforming. Even with a literal line leading you straight to the nearest artificact, it would still be an incredibly boring, tedious, anticlimactic piece of shit (not to mention it's followed by two of the worst bossfights of all time)You are just an autistic little labrat that enjoys mindlessly running through waves endlessly for a little piece of cheese
Halo 1 wasn't even as good as Half-Life 1 which came out way before. Metroid Prime still hasn't been surprised in terms of its genre (3D Metroidvania). What kind of retarded debate is this? The only way anyone will say Halo is if they only grew up with an Xbox
>>724260386Scanning a hint logs it forever, with the room name, color coding for the area name, and even directly stating the area name at times included in the hint. You're a fucking retard who can't solve hints aimed at children.
>>724260386>If playing blind/no guide, the artifact hunt usually takes AT LEAST 2-3 hoursI'm not saying this to be hyperbolic or insulting, but you're actually sub 100 IQ.
>>724260681The boring backtrackvania isn't fun or interesting.
>>724260758Why should I care about the thoughts of someone so obviously inferior?
>>724260386it doesn't color code the zone, it color codes the literal room name and even gives a description of the area its in. kys retard
>>724252014>>724251742>every Metroid Cuck is eternally ntr'd by watching samus aran turn into a more and more useless character with no agency since other M>Every Halo fan is a normal person, so watching 343 completely run the franchise into the ground doesnt effect their daily life, master chief also isnt cucked into oblivion, even in the (((amazon))) show he cucks cortana and not the other way round if it was (((nintendo)))
>>724260840Why are you seeking my approval so desperately? Prime isn't a fun or interesting game. You can tell by this thread. Nobody has anything good to say about it.
>>724260986We've already established your kind can't read, no need to continue demonstrating it.
>>724260936>watching samus aran turn into a more and more useless character with no agency since other MExcept the exact opposite is what's been happening...
>>724260936>Every Halo fan is a normal person,among the ridiculous statements in this thread, this is the most outrageous one. Any remaining halo fan is out of their minds.
>>724261047One day we'll get to see that epic metroid prime gameplay. One day.
>>724251742Samus is made for chief (me)
>>724259602>all have vastly more impressive OSTs under their belts, True, but Marty wasn't primarily a composer, he was the audio lead for all of Bungie>and make much better use of leitmotifThis is your opinion lol
>>724259545>I wasn't talking about the crunch, I was talking about their last game bombing after another bomb (space lords)They still got their 2D team>because 1/2 were legitimately outdated, super is notIt is now>whatever you say m8Sorry man, I thought you were talking about Campaign Evolved, what a stupid name
>>724260681Watch literally any blind lets play in existence, subhuman retard. Most people are terrible at determining time, tending to way underestimate it. It takes most players (even using guides) 15-20 hours to beat their first time and artifact hunt is a sizable chunk of that. You are an ugly, poor, brown, manlet subhuman. We are not even the same species. Do not talk about intelligence with your shitty little dead end hourly job. It took me 12 hours but I also used a guide at the end because I didn't feel like backtracking all the way back to the chozo temple. I was practically delirious rushing throught the artifact hunt near the end as I was just ready to drop this piece of shit game and never touch it again. You'd have to be a colossal fucking retard, an actual roach of a human, to actually find this game enjoyable in any way
>>724251742I'm a massive Nintendo fan and Halo fucking obliterates Metroid in every conceivable way.
>>724261604>Most people are terrible at determining time, tending to way underestimate it.Actually it's only stupid people that have this problem. Not joking by the way. Definitely fits the mental profile of someone who can't read.
>>724261604posts like this are really enlightening, it shows how a large portion of the population reacts upon being asked to use their brain beyond the bare minimum.
>>724260934It doesn't color code anything on the map and you have to backtrack multiple times for them all to unlock in the temple. Again, EVEN WITH A LITERAL FUCKING LINE BEELINING STRAIGHT TO THE ARTIFACT, it would STILL be incredibly obnoxious and tedious bullshit after you just spent the game slogging through that bullshit.It's not even like Super Metroid where you actually gain a bunch of traversal options to whizz through previous areas, in Metroid Prime, you're STILL a slow clunky piece of shit with a tiny 60° FOV tunnel vision, using a single stick to both move and look, and doing the most shitty first person platforming imaginable. I don't care if you like this fucking trash game, but at least acknowledge you are a shit eating autistic subhuman who probably enjoys counting the fucking grains of sand at the beach.
well I’m a white man so halo
>>724261978I genuinely think you have a learning disability m8, if you can't apply the same exact color coded name on the artifact entry log onto the map there's nothing I can do to help you
>>724261978>It doesn't color code anything on the mapThe words you're incapable of deciphering the meaning of, those are what is colored. Specifically the same word which appears exclusively in the area the object is found. I know this probably didn't elucidate anything since it's clearly well beyond your limited abilities.
>>724261746True, like the anon claiming 2-3 hours for the artifact hunt for a first time blind player is some absued over exaggeration when it's under if anything.>>724261781I'm literally 145 IQ tested. I don't enjoy little labrat bullshit because I'm not an autistic retard.
>>724262171Bold of you to dox yourself with that gif.
>>724251742I don't even consider prime a shooter. More like an action adventure game. Both are enjoyed by chads around the world. Halo is better tho
>>724262080I never looked at the temple since the first time you go there. I'm not backtracking all the fucking way back there just to get some retarded vague 20 questions clue, and then backtrack all the way back for the next clue to unlock.I didn't use a guide until the artifact hunt, but couldn't stand playing another minute of this dogshit by the time I reached it. I had planned on playing the whole thing blind, and was astounded at how dogshit the game was, blew away all my expectations in the worst possible way, so I just said fuck it.
>>724262349What could it mean? As a 145 IQ genius even I am stumped. Clearly only the smartest men alive could figure this one out.
>>724262632Almost like there's 12 you little fucking sniveling rat. Why haven't you killed yourself yet by the way?
>>724262975No, don't tell me. Could this one's location be... the area on the map labeled Sunchamber perhaps? It's just so challenging to decipher its complex meaning.
>>724252302You're just fookin retarded mate. Prime shits all over halo in graphics and atmosphere. Halo has some amazing music, better enemies, gunplay, and set piece designs. Very different games.
>>724256938this isnt even comparable to phendrana drifts get the fuck out of the thread
>>724259475It was also on GameCube, so the snoy accusation falls flat.
>>724262349You literally have the hints aaved in the logbook you can access at ANY FUCKING TIME THROUGH THE MENU. You don't have to go back and in fact you can get most of the artifacts as you play if have the brain power to recall the hints that are at your fingertips the whole time after scanning them once
>>724262349pretended to play the game award
Both should try to be more like the other.Halo especially needs some new direction other than boomer shooter, and I think having more dungeon-esque levels could do it a solid.Prime is far more comfortable in its own skin, but the beam/missile weapon system is so fucking boring. Prime also tends to have stupid enemies, but I've seen signs of better AI in its trailers.
>>724267447The opening of Prime 4 feels more like Halo than anything I've seen from the Prime series sense, lol.
>>724266936Not all hints are unlocked in the beginning you massive fucking retard
>>724268252You get sent back by the area for a reason
>>724268670In other words, backtrack to all the areas you've been at the end of the game. Fuck off subhuman shiteater
>>724251742they're nothing alike, what's there to debate? one is an adventure game, the other is an RTS that got turned into an FPS partway through development.
>pc could emulate all metroid games no problem(dread included)>prime 3 and other m are a stutter fest for some reasonLiterally the only dolphin games I had trouble emulating, no clue if I fucked something up.
>>724252978>>724253329games dont age you stupid retards. it was either always good or was always bad.
member fall 2001 when Halo 1 and MGS2 released at the same time? I member.
>>724269423not as bad as rogue squadron 2 & 3
>>724269423the best is emulating the wii trilogy version of prime 1 on dolphin with mouse and keyboard. it makes the game too easy, but it's still awesome.
>>724270825Yeah, faggot, that's what I was doing.1 and 2 run with hd textures 1080p no problem, 3 even at lower resolutions, without any mods, still doesn't run properly for some reason. I guess prime 3 and other m are just extremely cpu intensive games.
