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Get paid and fuck off
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>trying to make us, /v/ The Vidya, care about some literally who's twitter post
kys
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what does the author get out of this exactly besides the benefits of virtue signaling
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I don't think I have ever intentionally spent time reading the credits to anything, ever. They can put in everyone involved, wouldn't make a difference, I'm not going to spend my time on it.
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Faggots like this try to make credits unskippable.
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>>724253925
>unskippable
how, I just exit the game
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>>724254074
Game only saves after the credits, and if you don't wait then you can't access any of the post-main-story content.
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>special thanks to
>our pets
>our families
>and you
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>>724253919
it's not really for you, it's for other devs to take note and consider to hire them.
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>>724254303
No shit captain obvious, thanks! Would you like to know I knew that already and thought it readily apparent, and not worth mentioning? Thanks for doing so anyway for no good reason, very cool.
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>>724254272
>and you
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>>724252173
I'm confused. Because credits these days are an hour long. As they list every person who even whiffed the farts of a developer for the game.
So who exactly is being left out of credits?

Wait, why am I asking? This is actually a shill thread.
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I didn't even know this was an issue. Whos getting screwed on the credits is it the indians?
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>>724254529
>"Can't you see, I was trying to make the situation about myself!"
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>>724254529
Then why are you whining like a little bitch about it? Are you so so fucked up in the head that any and all things must be "for you" and anything else in existence should stop existing.

Are you 2 years old or something?
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>>724254180
>go take a piss
>credits skipped
gg no re
>inb4 post-credits qte
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>>724252173
>everyone who worked on a game
>check credits
>dedicated section for babies born during the development process
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>>724252173
>BF6
No sale, too many female soldiers. Get fucked
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>>724252173
People who say this always shit and piss their pants in rage when you say "okay, that means the board of directors and our lawyers too"
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>>724254610
Nintendo will routinely put out remakes where the credits meticulously list everyone who did the remake work and then there's one line of "The original development staff"
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>>724252173
Not everyone who worked on a movie gets to be in the credits. That's not what credits are for.
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>>724254787
If those babies where being taken care of in the office, they did about as much work as HR or most managers.
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>>724254610
>is it the indians?
No, because you usually have to sit through their whole train's worth of names in most modern games.
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>>724254529
>I don't considering it worth mentioning, therefore it's objectively not worth mentioning
I consider your existence not worth it, therefore you should kill yourself.
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>>724252173
I stopped to care about credit when they became 1h+ long
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>>724256413
Why are you lying on an anonymous forum on the internet?
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Why are "creative" types so narcissistic as to need to appear in "credits"? My plumber's invoice doesn't show the names of his apprentice and offsider. My accountant's office doesn't attach a hall of fame with all their employees of the month to my tax return paperwork.
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>>724252173
Nothing worse than when a game has unskippable credits.
I don't care which pajeet made the chairs. Fuck off.
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>>724256717
because vidya is an art (or at least hey think it is), just like hollywood movies
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>>724256767
What part of the people who worked on a game wanting to be in the credits have anything to do with it being unskippable?
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>>724254610
I did QA work for Nintendo and I've been left out of credits for shit I worked on for over half a year. I don't actually care cause I wasn't doing real work like coding or art but yeah.
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>>724256717
Staying employed in the games industry is difficult. As once the project is completed, there's no telling if you will remain on staff or get laid off. Hell, you might not even remain until the game is completed. Once your job is over, why would they keep dead weight around? They can let you go mid development.

Credits serve as proof of your work, so you can get hired elsewhere.
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>Lists literal infants that did absolutely nothing for development as "Studio Babies"

I have seen this multiple times and it's why I don't give a fuck about video game credits.
There was a point where credits had little videos of behind the scenes footage playing alongside them and once that stopped being a thing I stopped caring who makes games.
Most games are soulless cashgrab trash now anyways. I don't care who made it.
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>>724254303
I’m sure there’s a more efficient way for a dev to find out who worked on what for a game that isn’t sitting through credits.
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Make your credits as long as you want but it should be mandatory to allow us to skip them.
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>>724257048
What does you acting like a retarded faggot have to do with either comprehensive or unskippable credits?
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>>724257318
Like what, asking the dev studio that was bought, closed down and then bought again? I am sure they kept records.
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>>724257347
>N-no u
Woah you got me.
But really though. Why do you think someone who worked on a game wanting to be in the credits makes it unskippable?
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>>724254610
Remakes often credit the lazy no-talent graphicsfags first and foremost. Sometimes the original developers aren't even listed.

It's starting to piss people off but it's only the gay ones right now so it's not getting any traction.
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>>724256876
Yeah but has anyone in the history of entertainment, ever actually read through the credits to see any name that wasnt a director/composer/lead something?
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>>724252173
the credits should be in the beginning and integrated in the gameplay, like in movies in the 60's
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>>724257579
people who worked on the product
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If your credits aren't a mini-game where you shoot developers or their names then nobody fucking cares who made your shitty overpriced children's toy.
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>>724252173
and everyone who worked on a shitty pozzed game should be whipped in public
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>>724252173
If you're credits don't look like this then you're doing something wong.
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>>724257330
>Can skip credits
>instinctively don't want to and maybe look at a couple names
>Can't skip credits
>Leave the room in defiance

Take notes, remake vermin.
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>>724257697
>
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>>724254763
Do you piss for 20 minutes?
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>>724257908
This is unironically my dream.
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>>724257976
What the other anon does while he's pissing is none of your business, anon.
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>>724252173
Only the core team should be mentioned, and if there are other studios that helped in asset creation or something like that, should just get company logo in the credits, not the entire fucking team.

QA should absolutely never be in any credits and neither should CEOs of the companies.
Special thanks should be reserved to whoever the core team wants to have mentioned.
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>>724257524
But really though. How do you think you being dumber than a dog and having worse associative skills than a five-year-old are relevant to either topics? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>724258198
>and if there are other studios that helped in asset creation or something like that, should just get company logo in the credits, not the entire fucking team.
that's how you get Tommy Tallarico
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>>724252173
It is my understanding, which isn't legal advice, that you already have a legal right to be acknowledged for your work on a software product. At least here in Europe. Maybe it's different in the US.
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I will now watch your credits sequence
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>>724252173
You can credit as many interns as you want if you stop people from thanking their pets
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>>724252173
Why do people who work on video games think they deserve to be in credits? Programming a menu ui for a game is no different then programming a menu ui for something like an image editing software or some shit. No one in any other workforce demands to be in credits. Why do people who work in entertainment think they deserve special attention?
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>>724254610
my uncle works at nintendo and he's never been the credits of a single game!
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>>724260725
best boy and dolly grip get credited in movies and video game credits are a way to imitate movies
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You want credits to last for 4 HOURS?
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>>724252173
i played the telltale borderlands game and then the credits were white people doing hr work and voice casting and then a bunch of chinese actually made the game. real credits for games would just be indian and chinese outsourcing
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>>724252173
Does any game have Special Thanks that listed your steam ID or whatever console username?
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>>724254592
>So who exactly is being left out of credits?
Not sure if it applies to video games, but in Hollywood people are often left out of credits for a bunch of reasons. Most of the time it's just because they were outsourced so you just name the company, but that's a newer way of doing it. It used to just be that if you were brought in for a few weeks you'd get screwed out of the credit because the company didn't feel like you "did enough" on the film to deserve it. I remember reading a neat article from a guy who did concept art and storyboards for Monkeybone where he was pissed off that he wasn't included in the credits because even if the movie sucked it would've been something he could point to to confirm he worked on a big movie. I assume the same is kind of true with games. Don't work a lot of time on it, then you get dumped out of the credits even if your work was included.
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>>724261605
I recall stuntspeople used to get shafted pretty hard when it came to credits, whoch is bullshit considering what they do
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>>724261605
Wouldn't you get what you want out of actual employment records, if not more?
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>List them all, so everyone can look up the names to avoid a purchase from next time
Fair and a far better indicator for future games. "Studios" are simply IP labels to be marketed
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>Boring ass non-interactable credits sequences are still a thing in video games
If isn't a mini game, doesn't have small gameplay sequences like Bayonetta or has a kick ass music video like God Hand, credits should be a readable file buried in the options menu, that way you easily check the credits if you care about them, but boring ass sequences like this was a movie? Fuck that
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>>724254303
Then don't put your job as in the game people pay for.
Your sneakers don't have credits for the shoemaker
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>>724254763
>2 hours later, credits are still rolling for payroll of multi-national with subsidiary that does AI text translation for Malaysian release
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>>724254529
Based.
If their job ads aren't for gamers, don't include them in games
Put the credits on LinkedIn or something and stop wasting our time
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>>724261759
https://stephenfollows.com/p/uncredited-movie-credits
This is a great article on the subject which shows even more reasons why people don't get credited. Some of it is union rules, some of it is companies being assholes, and some of it is just people straight up being forgotten about. I imagine it's hard for games to keep track of stuff like this when a lot of major companies outsource, but when they do actually credit them all it makes me wonder why can't every company just do that.
>>724261850
Employment records aren't as easy to point as to as a recognizable movie being on your portfolio for hiring staff.
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>>724256717
You said it.
Libtards are thin skinned, hysterical lunatics.
They freak out over everything because they have been spoiled their whole lives
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>>724254303
Yeah I'm sure devs are playing games to completion and reading the credits in-game to find out who worked on a game. Just list everyone on imdb (or whatever faggot equivalent there is for games) and don't waste our time.
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>>724258516
>legal right to be in credits
Don't think that exists beyond rare cases where it's a contractual obligation, like how you see middleware logos and shit in the credits.

The reason why having your name in the credits is important if you're a dev is because it's the only passive way to prove you worked on a game. Because otherwise, recruiters/HR have to physically call or write to a studio asking them to confirm if you did when you're applying for a job and being vetted.

And games have credits like this because much of their organization was taken from movies. (Even titles like 'Producer' came from film.)

t. gamedev
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I have no problem with this if it makes someone's mom proud. Just let me skip it.
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>>724257980
No one else but you can fulfill that dream.
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>>724257330
or at least have a kino credits theme
https://youtu.be/faJMFBBlvJs?si=hyHBUL7y5FBaO-Bw
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>>724254610
Other anons pointed out remakes, but ports and rereleases might also not credit people who worked on the game originally.
I know that once Yakuza 0 came out on gog, the credits were altered to remove the names of people who no longer work for the company, including the guy who was the series creator (and the director for that game as well). Kind of a shitty move.
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>>724261605
I've scanned a number of credits in my life. In order to settle various arguments. And I've noticed that outsourced employees all get their names listed. This is one of the reasons why people blame "pajeets" for everything. They see some Indian names and assume that's the entire reason a game has bad graphics or optimization.
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>>724254303
just verify on your website with a list of employees related to a project. If i was an employer i would never look at credits that i can not pause for work verification.
>Oh ya just uh.... finish all of a 200 hour jrpg and you can see my name in a 30 minute credit sequence........
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>>724254180
Well I guess I'm gonna go masturbate instead.
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>>724254272
>>and you
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>>724254610
Everyone who gets fired or quits or is on leave when the game is released gets a "Special Thanks" and not a credit
Those credits are how people get jobs
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>>724252173
so laying them off on launch day is okay then? Great.
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>>724260725
>you're resume said you worked on the ui for this... but i don't see it in the credits
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>>724262729
Fuck off you overexaggerating disingenuous retard, majority 200 hour jrpgs only have average ~6minute credits.
Even "big name" ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp39uqsM9Lg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCAnADeOu7c
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>>724262323
Okay, maybe it's not that your name has to be necessarily in the credits, but you have a right for it to be mentioned somewhere. For example on the company's website. You have a right for there to be some reference to the fact that you contributed to that software product. At least that's what I was taught in college. But admittedly it's not the same as necessarily having your name in the credits, so it might be tangential to the discussion.
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>>724254610
happens more than you think
seems to happen randomly at whatever whims of ceos
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>>724261969
Just have a credits option in the main menu.
And then they can seethe because their metrics show that almost nobody clicks on it and of those few who do, most were a misclick.
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>put your name in the credits
>hope that senpai notices you
>also hope that he doesn't notice you enough to actually check what exactly you did for the game
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>>724253704
>what does the author get out of this
Money when indignant retards (see: OP) who either agree/disagree with him click on the page. The question you should be asking is what does OP get out of reposting it, or what the janitorial staff gets out of allowing such off topic garbage threads.
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>>724263114
Meanwhile the first Fable is basically a fucking hour and if you skip it the game puts you back before the final boss.

Molyneux deserves his empire of dust.
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>>724263130
I think that's probably some kind of union clause in TV or film, but since vidya doesn't really have unions, they get fuck all.
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>>724252173
>Hipsters acting tired of babysitting the public on contrived issues in 2025
Happy Groundhog Day.
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>>724252819
>so raped by social media that even the lowly games journalist is twitter
I don't know what's sadder.
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>>724252173
I work at Microsoft Azure. Why isn't my name in the credits of every product that used Microsoft services in any way? This is a travesty
Captcha: ovyjw (oy vey jew)
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>>724263476
>if you beat the game, you're allowed to continue from before the game ends
wow FUCK game devs
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>>724257908
>scat
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>>724252173
>pic
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>>724252173
There's a reason places like mobygames don't include the "special thanks" people in the total number....
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>>724252173
>luke plunkett

isn't that the linus tech tips lacky?
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>>724262065
still pissin'
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>>724258198
>QA should absolutely never be in any credits
Why so? QAs are part of the development teams thou
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>>724263114
>autistic retard doesnt understand the core point
>spits out literal facts in a hypothetical in which the employer is being told to look at credits
You are perfect, you start monday
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>>724264065
Yep, you didn't get to do anything post game, you had to refight Dragon Jack.
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>>724265445
Go back.
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>>724257253
it's supposed to be "cute" and it's 100% a woman idea
surprised I haven't seen "furbabies" yet. that said, I haven't finished a videogames in a while.
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>>724262686
Depends on the game I suppose but I saw that sometimes the outsourced personnel doesn't get mentioned by their names and there's only the outsourced company name (and sometimes some higher-ups names like the company's director, head of finance, HR VP etc. but not the actual rank and file employees).
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>>724265530
ya i will and you are coming with me, Mr.Director of quality control.
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>>724256717
used for resume/portfolio when you apply to your next job
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i dont give a fuck about the 40 minutes credits
nor the translators or the 40 languages i didn't play
>thanks to
>this faggot who once talked to me on my launch break
>little jimmy for being my son
>also his 40 friends
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>>724254180
I mean, if you want to turn those credits into a hit/kill list, then sure. Go ahead and do that.
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>>724252173
No, this seems perfectly reasonable. Just don't watch the credits - I don't.
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>>724262729
sounds like a great way to get your people poached
credits are a better way to make sure nobody ever reads them
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>>724252173
all that shit does is make sure no one watches the credits.
People would actually sit through then back when they were short and sweet with a hundred names tops.
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>>724252173
I only respect credits that include the player
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>>724252173
Credits should be no more than 20 names.
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>do job
>get paid
>end of story
why do these niggers feel like they've above 99.99% of other jobs in the world?
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>>724257318
>>724262302
Where do you think imdb and shit gets their listings from? Its why some people pitched fits at not showing up in game credits. Because otherwise nobody knows they are there sometimes.
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>>724260524
Credits should be all sexy 3D women characters in the game dancing named, except they gave people's names covering their body, one by one a name is peeled off and fly by the camera out of the screen. And the women get more and more embarrassed as they dance.
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Reminder that if you worked on a project that gets cancelled, potentially you are still bound by NDA to never share or show anyone what you worked on. That is literally wasted years and empty spots in your portfolio that you have nothing to show for.
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>>724253704
Why does every action you take need to be a calculated move to enrich yourself?

>>724254529
If you knew that then why did you mention that you don't read the credits when we also know you will never make a video game, will never have sex, and will never be happy (and all of this is deeply deserved, correct, and just)?

>>724257318
>>724261990
>>724262729
Third party sources (websites) can fade, the source material will not.
I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but you also shouldn't be so retarded as to need it explained to you; that's been a running theme in this thread, sadly.
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>>724274884
>dancing named
Naked, fucking autocorrect. I hate not having my computer.
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>>724255196
>Pijush Bhole
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>>724252173
>watching credits
>"best boy grip"
>mfw
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>>724262594
>ports and rereleases might also not credit people who worked on the game originally.
I will never forgive Crapcom for cutting off the ending credits sequence from Okami.
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>>724275198
god, you're immature
me too!
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>>724253919
Make it into something like Nier Automata ending and I'll read it
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imagine if that put credits on every product
>milk
>the cow: andrew
>the mother and father of the cow
>the whore milking the cow
>the people who worked on the grass the cow eats
>the people who gave birth to the people who worked on the grass
>drivers
>the guy at the supermarket who sold it to you
>your country president for allowing it to sell it
>the truck
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>>724252173
>Get paid and fuck off
BUT-BUT-BUT-BUT-BUT-BUT-BUT MY LINKEDIN NEPOTISM SLOP
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>>724273365
you are right... remove them from the credits and the website!

>>724274935
>I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but you also shouldn't be so retarded as to need it explained to you; that's been a running theme in this thread, sadly.
Sounds like cope
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>>724257638
>start up game
>screen remains black but music plays for two minutes straight before a single logo appears
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>>724257638
most shit games do that
i'll give you a hint: movie games directed by hideo kojima
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>>724252173
well they better have a damn good track to go with it.
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>>724253704
>what do they get out of this besides the only thing you get out of saying this
it is a mystery.mp2
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>>724265295
drinking while on the toilet eh?



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