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Why was Gen 2 so utterly lame and forgettable compared to the classic (Gen 1) and the return to form (Gen 3)?

I just remember being confused upon reaching Kanto when I first played it, like why the fuck would I want to retread the old game I already played? It almost felt like an apology for how bad Johto was and how bland, babyish, and uninspired most of the new mons were. Just pathetic.
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>>724252635
>classic creatures
>beloved beasts
>absolute abominations
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>>724252635
1 gen is cool
2 gen is trash
3 gen is trash BUT is remember JUST cus Blaziken has tons of porn and mudkip was a meme.
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>>724252635
Currently doing a replay of Gen 1 into Gen 2, I'll let you know when this thread gets made again next week
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>>724252635
My theory is it has to do with whether or not the Grass evolution is cool
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>>724252635
They aren't.
Gen 1 is pushed too heavily in media, and youngfags doing polls like this weren't even alive for Johto.
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Gen 3 is so ugly, I have no idea why people love it so much. Is it just because of Emerald fixing shit?
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>>724252769
>>724252784
>low test millennial soicucks put off by cool designs
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>>724253354
As someone who grew up with gen 4 as their first game, the gen 4 starters are hideously ugly and gay
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>>724252635
>all mono types
shit generation
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>>724252635
gen 3 starters are so dogshit, they look retarded

meganium massively brings down gen 2 it looks like an average grass pokemon rather than a starter, I wonder if meganium being unpopular is why they thought no one wants quadruped starters and they NEVER STOP making fucking humanoids for every fucking starter's final evo
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>>724253546
that's gen 4 though
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>>724253472
>>724253606
Gen 3 is the peak of Pokemon design you dumb little faggots. Kys.
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Mudkip will forever reign supreme
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>>724253191
/thread
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>>724253640
No, kys, kaijuu design and not considering plushies in design language was peak of the franchise, aka before they released the first game. Has been downhill since pokemon gained any sort of popularity
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>>724252635
Because most people that still play Pokemon where kids who started with Gens 3 and 4.
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>>724253524
>Blaziken
Somewhere between a digimon and a fur suit, huge penis feathers for no damn reason.
>Sceptile
Objectively worse than the stage 2 design.
>Swampert
He's cool yeah.
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>>724253472
I just like this little fella.
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Why are Hoennbabbies so retarded?
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Gen 2 is as high as I'll go. Sorry lads.
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>>724253923
Easily the worst Pokemon fanbase, Genwunners at least mostly stick to their own.
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>>724253621
Lucario tho
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typhlosion is literally just a 1:1 copy of charizard without the flying type, same base stats, same tms it can learn, it's a fucking joke
feraligatr is cool but it's not blastoise
meganium is literally marge simpson tier where it does nothing well and is basically just a noob trap without any real payoff, it might as well be a fucking normal type cow pokemon
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>>724253472
Definitely Emerald, I don't even consider Ruby and Sapphire when talking about the gen 3 experience.
I also adore gen 2 for the countryside/traditional aesthetic, something that the kids today don't seem to appreciate.
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>>724253546
compared to what, the faggy gen 2 starters or the abominable gen5+ starters? lol
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Gen 3 had gardevoir soooooo
Yup, still thinking about those grippers
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HG/SS is the best game OP is a nigger
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>>724252635
>return to form
Gen 3 was the start of dreadful designs being a majority.
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>>724252635
Meganium drags down the coolness factor. Both Typhlosion and Feraligtr are cool but they're not as strong as the gen 1 starters.
Gen 3 immediately made up for the previous gens grass starter by giving the player something that actually looks cool. Gen 3 starters may not be all that strong outside of Blaziken, but they all look cool at the very least.

The gen 1 starters are all good in some way with both usability and design, and both Charizard and Venusaur in particular are incredibly strong.
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>>724254076
I fucking wish Typhlosion was just a 1:1 copy of Charizard, at least it wouldn't be so fucking ugly.
I've never seen a Pokemon design crater as hard as Cyndaquil to Quilava. Literally goes from one of the best stage 1 starters in the franchise to one of the worst, loses literally everything that made the stage 1 such a good design.
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>>724254183
That's not gen 2.
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Gen 3 rival sucks and can barely be called a rival, bitch just stops at lilycove and goes home.
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>>724253472
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xngBF-sWsLg
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People miss the point of the Chikorita line being the "let's try to bring girls into pokemon" of starters.
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>>724252635
why is Gen 1 not the highest rated in that poll?
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>>724254380
I know it's still hip and cool to hate on ORAS, but I do sincerely appreciate that they throw in a scene after the credits where your rival challenges you to one last Pokemon battle, with the scene transitioning into an actual in-game trainer battle. Pure kino, May finally got to fully evolve her starter 10/10.
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>>724254457
The problem is MeGAYnium is ugly as sin even if Chikorita is 10/10 adorable.
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>>724253546
torterra saves them from ruin, that tortoise sure is cool
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>>724254116
>I don't even consider Ruby and Sapphire when talking about the gen 3 experience
for good reason. I replayed ruby some time ago and it was way worse than I remember. the ocean segment of the game is a slog, most of the new mons just have garbage moves that don't complement stats, and besides steven being a cool champ the elite four was garbage
the music was amazing though. it was stuck in my head for a while
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Chikorita just putting 2nd Gen down
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>>724253546
they're far better than gen 3's starters
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Hoenn starters are the best and you are a tasteless retarded fucking nigger if you disagree.
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Feraligatr and Typhlosion bring up Meganium.
Gen 2 has the coolest starters for those 2 alone.
That's not even getting into the other cool stuff gen 2 had like Ho-Oh and Dunsparce
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>>724252635
The designs for much of the Pokémon in gen 2 are pretty lame. It's like the designs are either amazing or boring with no in between. Then it has the most boring meta game that just revolves around setting up spikes and sand, rest spam, lefties spam and praying you can get a wall breaker set up before they inevitably get roared out by suicune or skarmary.
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>>724256995
Feraligatr looks fucking retarded with its stupid scale-things slapped on, almost like it was AI generated. Typhloshit is just a fat furbait eclair with copy-pasted Charizard stats but without the cool design or dual-type. The whole trio is shit and easily the worst until Gen 8 came out
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>>724257207
Yeah yeah, you've got shit taste, what else is new, faggot?
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>>>/vp/
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>>724254183
>HG/SS is the best game
No they're not, they have all the problems with Gen 2 slapped into a slower engine with shitty minigames to pad it out. The only good thing about it, the Battle Factory, already exists in two better games. Every Johto game is fucking dogshit.
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>>724254318
wrong and gay
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>>724253546
starters leave a bad impression in mind because of how poorly designed they were
> monkey line is immediately stronger by getting access to mach punch and monfernape at level 14
> physical grass starter learning absorb
> how hackneyed piplup’s starter journey is if you pick it
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Gen 9 is the worse trio
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>>724253546
They're the best looking starter lines since Gen 1 and I will die on this hill.
Gen 5 had the worst.
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>>724254318
Quilava >>> Cyndaquil
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>>724261790
I've never seen someone be so confident about something so incorrect
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>>724262037
Fire ferret is just better than a weird porcupine/anteater combo.
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Don't care for most Gen 3 Pokemon but he's the GOAT starter
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>>724253354
Infernape will always be my favourite starter
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>>724252635
Gen 2 feels more like an expansion/addon to Gen 1, while Gen 3 feels a bit more like it's own thing. Gen 4 then again feels strongly like an expansion with Gen 5 being VERY much it's own thing.
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>>724252635
The real answer is that the majority of Gen 2's pokemon are round blobs and beans with jointless limbs/spikes attached. Just look at the following mons and you'll see what I mean
>The entire Chikorita and Cyndaquil lines
>Sentret/Furret
>Ledyba/Ledian
>Crobat
>Chinchou/Lanturn
>Every babymon
>Natu
>Mareep
>Marill/Azumarill
>Politoed
>Hoppip/Skiploom/Jumpluff
>Aipom
>Sunkern
>Wooper/Quagsire
>Dunsparce
>Qwilfish
>Teddiursa
>Swinub/Piloswine
>Mantine
>Phanphy/Donphan
>Smeargle
>Miltank
>Blissey
>Larvitar/Pupitar
>Celebi

They all lack the edge that the Gen 1 designs had (Especially in Sugimori's redone art for the International releases) that Gen 3 brought back in its designs thanks to the addition of bigger sprites/more color choices available. Yeah you had outliers like Skarmory and the Legendary Beasts and Tyranitar but they're just that - Outliers. There's just far too many "cutemon" in Gen 2.
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>>724253546
Sinnoh is hideously ugly and gay, in general. The mon designs and the region and the DPPt games themselves. I don't really know what went wrong. Maybe the higher graphical fidelity on the DS allowed them to fuck things up in a way the GB never allowed.
We know that did at least happen on the GBA, when they permanently washed out all the Pokemon colors because nintendo was too cheap to ship the original model with a backlit screen.
Maybe the DS demanding 3D meant they had to ship awful looking pseudo 3D environments made of approximately 4 polygons, gated with loading zones, in ugly grey/brown environments.

We can all agree this right here is ugly as shit, right?
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>>724253814
Why are you looking at your pokemon's crotch bro?
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>>724262756
I like Sinnoh, it feels dreary and melancholic.
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>>724262756
looks fine to me
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>>724262756
>hideously ugly and gay, in general
but enough about johto
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you can tell where it all went wrong...
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>>724253472
>ugly
>gen 3
Excuse me? Gen 3 looked great.
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>>724263307
Yeah, Gen 6 really fucked up starters big time. Skeledirge and Rillaboom are a return to form, but we desperately need to get out of "I want to fuck my starter" territory with these bipedal designs.
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>>724263040
yeah, but they weren't going for dreary and melancholic. They were going for a fun pokemon adventure but failed, so you end up on this long, slow, laggy slog through a dreary land with the same pokemon everywhere and it's just boring as shit.
That's even how I felt about it as a kid which is crazy, I had no issue running around Hoenn (80% water content by volume) yet somehow an elementary school kid with Pokemon posters on his wall got bored and tired of Pokemon because of how shit Diamond was. It's not even like I grew out of Pokemon yet because I went and bought White version on release and actually liked it despite how weird it was.
I can't exactly put my finger on why D/P sucked so bad but it being ugly as hell had to be part of it, in hindsight.
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>>724263307
gen 5
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>>724263307
It's gen 6, they made the starters RPG classes and since then every starter has been defined by "fursona + element + job" rather than being a monster creature with a natural habitat living in an authentic feeling world.
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>>724263307
I like BW but it was the first time I had little attachment to my starter. I eventually just ended up picking oshawott every time just because it meant I didn't have to find a new surfer.
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>>724263307
You could easily swap the johturd starters with gen 8 or some shit and everyone would shit on them lol. Ugly
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>>724263564
ORAS looks better
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>>724263885
>an authentic feeling world.
Pokemon was always a goofy RPG setting man none of it actually makes sense under any level of scrutiny it's just for fun
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>>724253354
nu-pokemon designs are an abomination.
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>>724253354
TRVKE
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>>724263993
ORAS is beyond hideous, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>724252635
Feraligatr is the best, especially with Sheer Force + Life Orb.
It's just Meganium that tanks it in the polls.
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>>724253472
Gen 1: They're all cool but my favorite is Charizard
Gen 2: They're all cool but my favorite is Feraligatr
Gen 3: They're all cool but my favorite is Swampert
Gen 4: They're all cool but my favorite is Torterra
Gen 5: They're all an abomination and every gen after.
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>>724253472
gen 3 has the best endgame with its battle frontier, best mon designs, great music, great map design, and is the basis for most romhacks. i think platinum and bw2 are better as games though
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>>724262668
So many shitmon
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>>724264059
I don't mean that it's realistic, but that it feels like it makes sense internally. Like yeah x-rays from the moon turning sludge into Grimer doesn't make sense in our world. But if you accept that x-rays from the moon create Grimer from sludge, you'd expect cities' sewers to be full of Grimer... which they are. That's their habitat, they live in big slime colonies because they're living toxic waste, and the evolved ones are just bigger slimes. From this basic starting point you can imagine what they eat, how they interact with other pokemon or people, etc.

What's the natural habitat of the athletic rabbit? Football fields? Why is it fire type? I don't know, boys like fire types and boys like soccer so the marketing people said draw this guy.
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>>724252635
Feraligatr is god tier, shame that nupokemon keeps ruining everything
He did not deserve to be available as a starter in the new shovelware game
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>>724264636
It doesn't though, what do a herd of these guys look like? Are they carnivores? Herbivores? Or is it just a funny boxing monster and you're not really supposed to think about it?
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>>724264782
That's true, hitmons are shit pokemon. Along with the other early mons that are just weird altered humans. I still believe what I said applies to earlier Pokemon more than later Pokemon though. Specifically starters, which began animal-like and became more humanoid over time and eventually acquired jobs.
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>>724264730
The loss of his original colour hurts me the most.
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>>724264730
Croconaw is still my favourite stage 2 Starter, shame they always get overlooked.
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>>724264730
The gen 6 cope of
>they're just emulating watercolor guise :^)
will always drive me up a wall.
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>>724253814
>thinks about pokemon genitalia
You're a degenerate furry, your opinion doesn't matter
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>>724265025
>The setting is this
>Ok it wasn't this but it should have been and the mons that contradict it are bad

I guess?
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>>724265762
why are you getting so emotional about it? Human mons are bad simple as
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>>724262668
roll hehe
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Too much water, but unironically.
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>>724263307
I like Gen 6's but it's clear that's when the pattern started. Nothing but bipedal furfaggotry from then on
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>>724252635
because kantoniggers keep forgetting that their epic dragon starter is a 4'5 manlet
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>>724252635
Boring typing and 2/3 boring designs. No one likes monotype starters and Feraligatr was the only cool design out of that bunch.
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>>724253354
>Empoleon
I have no idea what the fuck they were thinking with that piece of shit's levelup movepool. I had to salvage it with TMs.
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>>724252635
I fucking love Gen 2 because I spent hundreds of hours with it as a kid. Chikorita is my all time favorite starter and I was so close to completing the dex as a kid. One day I put my silver cart in my pocket and the next day my whole save was wiped.
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>>>/vp/
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>>724253640
>This is the peak of Pokemon designs
>PASTEL COLORS AND RANDOM STRIPES EVERYWHERE
>ALSO SHAPES, DONT FORGET TO GIVE HALF THE CREATURES RANDOM SHAPES ON THEIR BODY
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>>724263564
the gba games look fucking awful because they had to compensate for the dogshit gba screen, the sprites and tilesets are just very bad, somehow they managed to fuck up both the music AND the aesthetic in gen 3
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>>724263307
Emboar coming out Fire/Fighting and looking the way it did. Pretty much the moment I lost interest in Pokemon. Serperior and Samurott look alright but Emboar was the first starter I genuinely disliked from a design perspective. Gen 4 was a little bit busy but I still liked what they were going for with each one.
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>>>/vp/
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>>724262668
There were some cool designs at least like Murkrow, Scisor and Steelix.
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>>724267093
Yes it provides regional distinction without making the designs to complicated with random crap sticking off their bodies like later gens.
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>>724253354
I think the anime did a pretty good job in making Chimchar memorable.
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>>724267834
It looks overdesigned as fuck
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>>724262668
may all day
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>>724253923
>Hoennbabbies
anon... do you want to know how old someone is in 2025 if their first pokemon game was gen 3 at age ... idk 8-10?
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>>724269779
newfag
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>>724269869
I cant tell if you are a fucking autistic fossil who literally never moved on or matured from 2005 or are just pretending to be retarded.
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>>724252635
People who say only the original were good were not alive, it has the most slop of them all.
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>>724263585
Diamond was so bad that it turned me off Pokemon for seven years, then when gen 6 got announced I picked up White out of curiosity and that got me back into the series.

A couple years ago I tried Platinum because people say that it fixes Gen 4. Nope, it's the same shit. Sinnoh just fucking sucks ass.
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>>724269940
>you cant call them hoennbabies anymore because they are in their 30s
I think you're the autist bro
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>>724253472
It's because it's the one I played the most as a kid.
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>>724253606
Bulbasaur was fine though
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>>724270068
>hoennbabies anymore because they are in their 30s
yes anon
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>>724270219
You are literally autistic and a newfaggot.
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>>724252635
gen2 was fine only the starters sucked. It's easy to tell why. Meganium was just lame, they all didn't change much through evolution and lack detail. They didn't have anything going for them compared to gen1.

Gen1 points just for being OG
Gen3 is trying too hard to be cool and it worked because the audience were children
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>>724267104
>the music
Opinion revoked, if you were talking about gen 2 or 4, sure, but gen 3 perfectly captures the sense of adventure with a soundtrack that evolves with you.
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it honestly sucks because feraligatr's in my top 3 for water-type starters but he's next to the two MOST boring starters in the franchise
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>>724253814
>he isn't down with the bush
I think Typhlosion is cooler too, but come on, man.
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>>724270353
insane how wrong you are, gen 3s only good track is mt pyre, the soundfont for gen 3 is so ass nearly every other gen does its music better
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>>724270353
ORAS has a great soundtrack, anon, but RSE sure doesn't.
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>>724269634
Not really, very few Gen 3 pokemon feel overdesigned and stick to 3 main colors at most.
>Treecko line
Green/Red/Yellow
>Torchic line
Orange/Yellow/Brown that changes to Red/yellow/brown when it evolves into Blaziken
>Mudkip line
Blue/Orange/Black
>Zigzagoon line
Light/Dark Brown with a different accent for each evo stage (Black for zigzagoon's mask, blue for linoone's eyes)
>Swellow line
Red/White/Black with a hint of yellow for the beak
>Gardevoir line
Green/White with a dash of red
>Shroomish
Green/Tan with a dash of red added when it evolves to Breloom
>Whismur line
Purple/Yellow/Red
>Aggron line
Silver/Grey with accents of blue for the eyes

I could keep going, but you get the point. The color variety and screen upgrade the GBA provided allowed the designs to be broken up more instead of relying on huge flat surfaces like most Gen 2 pokemon did. By modern standards Gen 3 mon are hardly overdesigned. I mean just look at Groudon to the current red box Legendary Koraidon and you'll see what's an actual example of something being overdesigned.
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>>724263307
Why aren't the rows ordered by type?
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>>724254457
>girl pokemon
>bald dinosaur
chikorita is for fucking fags
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>>724270042
It's funny, Gen 3 is what made me stop playing Pokemon. I felt the world and pokemon were ugly and weird as fuck compared to the first two. Just didn't like it. Gen 4 is what brought me back, personally. I liked a lot of the designs and the world was great compared to 3.
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>>724270247
Autism is when you hyperfixate on derogatory terms for ppl you dont like to the point where you use it for 20 fucking years. Its embarassing to share a board with you.
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>>724263307
4,5,6 were bad for their own reason and evolution
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>>724270821
if you started with gen 3 you're a hoennbab, it isn't that deep dumbass
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>>724270837
>4,5,6 were bad
i hope you're not implying 7,8,and 9 are acceptable then, jesus
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>>724270837
How the fuck are 4 any worse than 3? 3 looks weird as fuck compared to the first 2.
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>>724252635
Gen 2 really was just an extension of Gen 1.
>Some Gen 2 Pokemon were locked behind post-game Kanto
>The Ash, Misty, Brock Trio was still being used in the anime.
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>>724270463
are you seriously implying Slateport Theme is bad? you're just being a contrarian faggot begging for the attention your parents never gave you
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>>724270463
Of all the ones you go with you go with the weakest one?
Not the E4 theme?
Not meteor falls?
Not route 119?
Deoxys' theme?
Route 113?
There's a reason why people say ORAS didn't do it justice.
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Prove you're based and post you're favorite mon
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Best gen: the one I played growing up
Worse gen: the one that came out when I got to be too old for pokemon
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>>724270778
>coming back with the ugliest gen in the series
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>>724271279
He's just cool
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>>724271352
Yeah.. ugly...
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>>724271278
You can really tell if someone doesn't like Pokemon if they think that gen 3 had bad music. Even the trainer pre battle themes were catchy.
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>>724270978
I'm talking overall, but 4th non-evolved sucks for being essentially just 3 again
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>>724271352
he didn't come back with gen 9 doe
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>>724267093
>good balance of cute and cool pokemon
>introduced a decent amount of fan favourites
>visually distinct from prior gens but still more or less keeping to the style
the only downside to gen 3 is the abundance of SFMA, but even still it added some pretty good mons that held up until the gen 5/6 powercreep
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>>724271497
Meds
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>>724271480
>Gen 4 is what brought me back, personally.
>posts gen 5
Sinnohfags are so embarrassed of their own game that they can't bear to associate themselves with it.
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>>724271278
route 113 is good, deoxys is hard to have in there even if its a good theme since a lot of people never got to see that fight legit in gen 3. I think the trainer battle themes in gen 3 are really weak though. ORAS is criminal and I say this as someone who doesn't like gen 3 much
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>>724271284
crazy how I didn't decide I was too old for pokemon until I was multiple years into college and X and Y came out
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Reminder that gen wars didn't exist until Gen 3 came out and had to justify its existence as a reboot instead of an extension of the franchise.
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>>724271497
>but 4th non-evolved sucks for being essentially just 3 again
You could say that about a lot of things in gen 4 like the plot and gimmicks like bases, Contests and the frontier.
Everything about gen 4 was just a worse gen 3.
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>>724271585
Oh I thought you were talking about gen 5, I didn't follow the conversation well enough
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>>724271629
Gen wars didn't exist until gen 3 because gen 2 was hardly an improvement over gen 1.
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>>724271497
besides infernapes typing, you're a retard
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>>724271629
I promise you no one actually playing gen 3 when it was new cared about this
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>>724271629
I like how dexit was such a big deal when gen 3 did it first, with massively less pokemon.
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>>724271736
>gen 2 was hardly an improvement over gen 1
now THIS is bait
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>>724271769
Because gen 3 didn't do it first. Every single pokemon was programmed into the game.
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>>724271629
gen 3 being a reboot wasn't actually gamefreak's fault for once
the gba was incompatible to the gb for hardware reasons
although it was scummy of gamefreak to arbitrarily lock half of the existing pokemon from the prior games behind other full price games
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>>724271751
Wrong. I was about to turn 14 when R&S came out and I remember complaining to my friends how it was garbage with faggot designs and I remember them asking me why the fuck I'm still playing Pokemon instead of Halo
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>>724252635
Because they don't have any added texture or detail to their ski na lot of the time, so they just look like shapes. I still love Meganium, always have love for my green niggas.
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I think if you showed these to people that never played pokemon every adult would pick gen 1
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>>724271648
anon I'm still talking about the Pokemon designs, I only ever played two games.
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>>724272095
Well, yeah. Most of them look like simple animal-based monsters... for the most part. easy to understand the concept. for the most part
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>>724271278
route 120 too
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>>724271278
Reason being hoenniggers are fucking deaf.
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Does anyone else think that the map design of Gen 1 when heading to and from Fuchsia fucking sucks?
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>>724253354
Gen 4 was the first gen where I didn't want any of the starters
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>>724273221
Cycling Road is great. The other route is overrated, especially the maze portion. The sea route is good.
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>>724271857
But you couldn't actually get it until they released fire red and leaf green.
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>>724271769
Gen 3 had an actual reason for dexit in that the gameboy and the GBA literally are not compatible with each other

This is not the case with Gen 8 dexit. You can transfer mons from Pokemon home on to the switch no issue, the only thing stopping you is Gamefreak's lazy ass refusing to coded certain mons into the games
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>>724262668
i won best girl. also infernape is the best mixed attacker
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>>724271279
i love this fighter
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>>724252635
>Why was Gen 2 so utterly lame and forgettable compared to the classic (Gen 1) and the return to form (Gen 3)?
1. a lot of gen 2 mon are gen 1 rejects
2. they flooded the gen with too many shitty, cutesy pokemon like babymon
3. as a response, gen 3 had more "cool" pokemon to course correct
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Only the first two gens of pokemon look like pokemon.
Oh also, gold and silver was peak
>b-but le level curve! le gym leader teams!
nigga it’s a game for babies, who gives a shit if this one is marginally less pathetically easy than the other ones
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>>724252635
>Gen 3 with 59% of the votes
Awful awful taste. I don’t care if you prefer Gen 1 or Gen 2, or if you do think one of them is the worst of the three. But you shouldn’t be picking toilet brush tail, big memekip, and the right angled motherfucker responsible for endless humanoid starter mon over both of them.
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>>724278404
Gen 2 has the worst designs by far, just generic, soft blobs for toddlers
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>>724252635
They are not forgotten, the genwunners have simply aged out of liking pokemon. They are married now with kids., They no longer blow their roomates and occasionally do butt stuff. There is no time for that! There is no time to play pokemon or troon out on twitter!. Now its the zoomer trooners who are nostalgic for gen 3 that mainly vote on this.
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>>724263307
>Gen 1: evolutions that make sense
>Gen 2: same again, only now there’s a clear one for the girls and a cool one for the older boys
>Gen 3: ugly fucks, but still make sense
>Gen 4: overdesigned, but not completely ruined yet
>Gen 5: job gimmicks start with animals that have ancient Asian warrior themes
>Gen 6: D&D furries
>Gen 7: Circus furries
>Gen 8: just random unrelated bullshit furries
>Gen 9: Carnival furries
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>>724263564
These games look like garbage and made me believe for the longest time GBA games had bad graphics
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>>724263307
The real tier list
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>>724270209
sugimori doesn't like drawing venusaur, hence even more hate for quadrupeds from early in the series
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>>724263307
>1
All three are good, venusaur was always a bit fat and sluggish looking though
>2
I don't like Typhlosion. Meganium's fine for a girly one and Feraligatr is cool, but Typhlosion just, doesn't have much going on for it when it's not in that exact pose. Which was fine in game, but never cool in the anime.
>3
All look great
>4
God I fucking hate Infernape, just looks shit. Also fire/fighting twice in a row, really? Other two are great.
>5
God I FUCKING HATE Emboar, what an atrocious design. And fire/fighting AGAIN??? Seperior's okay, Samurott is alright if it uses its arm swords more.
>6
Greninja was always overloved, and I can't even remember the grass one's name. It's really forgettable. Delphox is fantastic.
>7
Owl looks nerdy and wrestler looks gay. I actually like Primarina though.
>8
Cinderace is great as a design, but I've never liked the footballer theme. The other two are Emboar-tier shit.
>9
I like the cat. Skeledirge would be good without the randomly coloured bright squares on its nose and skull. I know what it's designed after, doesn't make it look any less shitty. Quaquaval is the worst designed starter of them all.
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>>724262668
haha yeah i remember why I play pokemon games again
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>>724253354
It's really impressive how the Gen 4 starters are all extremely balanced in all three looking unimpressive as fuck. They're the middest of the mid
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>>724263307
3
three
tres
fire fighting starters IN A ROW.
grass fighting absolute faggot first try how did they do it? water fighting GIGA SUPER LA FAGETE DE PRIMO ULTIMAXO! like come the fuck on if they just made blue torchic it would have been less gay than quakquaval. chestnaught is just shitty tank design moveset and stat spread it sucks to suck but damn man.
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>>724263307
Really bizarre how they shipped Gen 6 with such a massive discrepance in starter quality with Greninja being so favored over the other two
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>>724271279
If I posted Scizor right now right here in this thread everyone reading would shit themselves, every woman within 30 km of the anon viewing the image would immediately become pregnant with my seed, there would be a economical collapse from how awesome it is. and unfortunately trillions would die in school shootings due to his 4x weakness to fire type.

which is why you're right I have to post Scizor
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>>724252635
1. thyplosion could never compete with charizard
2. Totodile was too cute to evolve
3. the entire chikorita line is AIDS

Gen 3 actually made sure that their starter mons didn't have to compete with the Gen 1 trio, and it worked out great.
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>>724264430
>all an abomination
I implore you to make one exception for best birb
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>>724279340
Typhlosion looked great in the legend of thunder anime special, get out.
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>>724252635
Pokemon peaked on the GBA with gen 3 and the gen 1 remakes.
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>>724253472
Gen 3 was so shit it ended Pokémania
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>>724252769
>>724253472
Based.
>>724253354
I think these are the best looking starters since Gen 1.
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>>724267093
Yes ?
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>>724279068
>incineroar
>S tier
tourneyfag or actually retarded
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>>724253354
>slop for zoomzooms who missed out on Gen1
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>>724271736
Damn, we all know it's true but you didn't have to say it like that anon
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>>724252635
How can I get the same kind of wife that Typhlosion got?
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>>724281119
Anything luchador inspired gets a pass
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>>724282027
retarded, gotcha
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>>724263307
What kind of psychopath made this image where they aren't row'd up by element type?
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>>724253647
Ha ha yes I too remember 2006.
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>>724253354
based
>>724264084
>>724273304
>>724279415
>>724281216
homosexuals
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>>724281423
>infernape in E
filename checks out
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What does this say about me (not ordered)
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>>724282674
humanoid pokemon are gay, thus by definition apes are omega gay, sorry nigga a chimp can never be cool its a drooling screaming retard that throws its shit at you



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