Eggman is more soulful than Robotnik
His name is Robotnik and I don't give a fuck what those stupid japs say.
>>724275223sega made robotnik for the american market.eggman is for the european and japanese markets
Eggman never gave himself a promotion.Robotnik wins.
snoo PINGAS usual
>>724275321He's called Robotnik in the rest of the world too retardbro.
>>724275223Eggman's grandfather was named Robotnik
BEHOLD
>>724275223Robotnik takes place far in the future after he successfully conquered earth or mobius or whatever.
>>724275223wait, they are different?
>>724275223>named eggman after I am the Walrus >has bushy mustache and a yellow collar to resemble walrus tusks
>>724275790This design was so cringey and out of place
>>724275223they say teddy roosevelt liked keeping pets
I like Sonic SatAM Robotnik the best. Jim Cummings does such a good job.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vl3XPkOVqw
I liked his Boom rendition
>>724275223Why would you give up such good branding? Death Egg, Egg Carrier, Egg Dragoon, and i can go on. All Robotnik has is badnik.
>>724275790Kinoman design...
>>724275973whoa
>>724276690Also the best version of "Robotnik" is the Adventures of variation.
>>724276641Gru
>>724276848Why haven't they given Eggman Minion-like helper baddies
>>724275223
>>724276935Orbot and Cubebot
>>724275790WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!
>>724276986oh right
>>724276324>>724276993You may call me insane, but i wish they leaned more into the weird Final Fantasy-esque world and designs for more games.
>>724275790>>724277172Legitimately a great design for him but it looked weird in the in engine cutscenes.I always assumed the weird yellow slots were for Chaos emeralds, is that what they’re for?
>>724277172That felt like the style they wanted modern evolve into at that time, until Colors came along.
What SoA did:>Robotnik: Makes egg-themed machines>Sonic: "Eggman!">Robotnik:" How dare you call me that!"What they should have done:>Robotnik: "My name is Robotnik, but you may call me Eggman!">Sonic: "Why Eggman?">Robotnik: "Do you not see all my egg-themes robots? I'm clearly trying to build a brand image here."
>>724276948That's quite a cock kn EgọgƏ
>>724278431HOLY SHIT IT'S HARVEY WINESTINE
>>724278047If I were to do a Sonic reboot, Eggman would be his brand. He'd plaster it all over for his fun ideas like casinos and rollercoasters. Sonic and others who oppose him would know him as Robotnik. Eventually the two names would merge together like in the original canon and be interchangable.
>>724276948>nsmegman
https://youtu.be/fR87VqxfsCQ?si=V_a_9jxeWMuoKTPm
>>724275790>I am now Sans Undertale go into my eyes
>>724278654With the way things are now, he turned what was an insult into something he owns. I find that to be an interesting spin on the silly name.
>>724275223Won't the Real Eggman please stand up?
>>724278047Eggman is simply his super villain nameHe's the egghead with the master planI don't get why they made it an insult
>>724275223SatAM Robotnik fucking sucks.His design is a trainwreck. Adventures Robotnik works fine because even if he's heavily changed up from Eggman (Adventures Robotnik really is more of a parody of SOA Robotnik than anything else), Adventures Robotnik's design still leans totally into how silly he looks. SatAM Robotnik has all of this crap bolted onto him to make him look scarier and it completely clashes with the few elements of Eggman that remain, all while looking absolutely nothing like the in-game character he's meant to be/promote even with the interpretation of early '90s sprite art.And his personality is boring as fuck. No jokes, no creative robot designs, no deeper motives or attachments like Eggman with his looking up to Gerald, just a one-note edgelord desperate for you to take him seriously.>GAHHHH SNIVELY I DON'T HAVE A HEARTRemind me again why Infinite was ridiculous and this guy wasn't? At least Infinite beat Sonic up in their first encounter.I wouldn't care if we hadn't had twenty years of literal diaper shitters like picrel >>724280872 hyping this guy up as the absolute golden standard for the character. Total SatAMnigger Death.
>>724278047"Eggman is his brand name, Robotnik is his family name" was basically a slapdash solution Sega had to come up with to align the canons after SOA named him "Robotnik" without coordinating with SOJ. The fact that many of his machines are egg-branded before the (in-universe) name change is a plot hole they've never really been able to reconcile.>Badniks based on Eggman himself are called "EggRobos">Ivo's Death Star knockoff is "The Death Egg">Even the name "Eggman" brands one of his airships
>>724275790
>>724281286>all of this crap bolted onto himit's a metal arm and a cape, little Timmy. did adding some pauldrons just overload your little brain?>critiques he looks nothing like the ingame character but admits AoStH Robotnik is also "heavily changed up" from the ingame character>personality is boring as fuckquick, describe AoStH Robotnik without using words like "goofy," "silly," or "comedic." that's dumb, you say? so is ignoring SatAM Robotnik's sinister demeanor. Jim Cummings threw in lots of little noises and quirks to make him malicious.>no creative robot designs>no deeper motivesdid you forget the part were he's a former war hero that connived his way close to the king so he could attempt a coup?>one-noteas if AoStH Robotnik also isn't.sounds like someone just has a hateboner for SatAM.
Soulfull old design>Actually shaped like an egg>Moustache and yellow part of his clothes makes him look like a WalrusNu design>Trying too hard to make cool a cartoony villain>doesn't look like neither an egg or a walrus, soul removed
eggmans face should be easy to stencil onto things.https://youtu.be/9G6XChMWMwc
>>724275223They are both propaganda...
>>724275223They will never be him
>>724282061For what?
>>724282129The ultimate Robotnik form.
>>724282178Anti-russo sentiment...
>>724282241But no eggman has a Ruski accent. Fuckwad moron mc-retard.
>>724282241SoA just didn't want people to immediately think of the Beatles and threw a little fading Cold War antagonism in there.
>>724282241>Both versions of Eggman/Robotnik are good with technologyCan't be.
>>724282291But his name is Ivan Robotnik, and he does wear a strong red and yellow jacket, and he does use technology in a very utilitarian/anti-corpo way.
>>724282409Sorry but if he was russian he wouldn't roll his rs.
>>724282409>IvanIvo.this is because of the original SoA idea of having his name be Ovi (from the Latin, ovum) Kintobor before a scientific mishap with a rotten egg makes him evil and also makes him reverse his name.
>>724281909You type like a nigger and you have the reading comprehension of one, too.>it's a metal arm and a cape, little Timmy. did adding some pauldrons just overload your little brain?The point is that what they added clashes with what was left over. SatAM Robotnik as a character has no reason to dress in bright colors or grow out a big silly mustache. He might as well have just been a pissed off robot. AoStH Robotnik can get away with having a silly design because he's funny, which makes him entertaining. SatAM Robotnik has nothing going for him except "I'M LE EVIL" which isn't entertaining.>did you forget the part were he's a former war hero that connived his way close to the king so he could attempt a coup?That has nothing to do with deeper motives, dumbfuck. His goal is to make the world as shitty as possible, not even to flaunt his ego like Dr. Eggman.>sounds like someone just has a hateboner for SatAM.Yes. Your cartoon is shit and I'm glad it's finally fading from relevance.
>>724282628That's actually really funny; how didn't I catch that?
>>724277467they're milk release valves (he has four udders because of science experiment gone wrong)
>>724276948>kintootnik
>>724276948ROBDOR, DESTROYER OF HEDGEHOGS
ok but did eggman ever WIN THE RACE
>>724282129
>>724282680>The point is that what they added clashes with what was left over.can you even articulate how, you drooling mong? >wow a metal arm? that TOTALLY CLASHES with this fat man!lol>bright colorsoh, i see the main issue. you're blind. look at the OP again. fucking Eggman is dressed in brighter colors than Robotnik's muted red.>why would this guy choose to grow a mustache????what the living fuck are you on about>he's funny, which makes him entertaining.and SatAM Robotnik is sinister, which makes him entertaining.AoStH Robotnik has nothing going for him except "I'M LE GOOFY" which is just as one-note, you sped.>doesn't think global domination is a motive>doesn't think Robotnik flaunts his ego when i posted a screenshot from an episode where he literally tries to bait Sonic into a race by building something faster than himi won't go into all the other examples, like his monologues, or his interactions with Lazar because you've never actually watched the show and wouldn't know wtf i'm talking about.>I'm glad it's finally fading from relevance.P.S. no IDW character will ever appear in a mainline game. dilate more.
>>724282057god the metallic madness remixes in this might just be the best tracks in that game and that's not an easy bar to clearman, we didn't deserve maniaI miss speculating about THE HOLE and sakura synagogue and vector and nigger sonic andI gotta replay this game it's been a while
>>724275223I never understood why they gave American Robotnik a pointy head
>>724283337So they can make the guy from Family Matters say PINHEAD
PENIS
>>724275790FUAAAARKthat's my villain
>>724283179>no IDW character will ever appear in a mainline game. dilate more.Shit I hope so, but Japanese developers can be so unpredictable some times
You told me there would be cake
>>724282129why did he look like this, and why was he so stupid? why are evil genius characters portrayed as stupid so often
>>724283546it's right there what are you blind stop shouting
>>724283758WHERE IS THE CAKE EGG-MAN
>>724278431PINGAS
>>72427579006 eggman is unironically my favorite eggman design>hes uglyyes, he's the bad guy
>>724281969soul soul
>>724283909JUST TAKE A SLICE YOU...
>>724283538not Sonic Team. you can count on them to be consistent(ly terrible). also Iizuka has nearly open distain for the Western created stuff.
>>724275223SATAM sucked, one of the worst Robotnik iterations. No personality, Dr.Claw-esq rip off.>>724283720It's not stupidity, it's called insanity. Robotnik AOSTH is literally insane.
Thuggman and he just takes BBC all day
>>724277467it looks like some sort of gas valves, maybe they were on old flight suits
RIP Deem Bristow. Best of all Eggmans.
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog sucked, one of the worst Robotnik iterations. Discount Ren & Stimpy schlock. No motivation beyond hating one hedgehog. Inept, incompetent to a ludicrous degree. Most of the time he doesn't even invent anything, it's just Scratch, Grounder and Coconuts trying ACME shit to catch Sonic with bait chili dogs and trebuchets or cages.Meanwhile SatAM Robotnik is always coming up with new spy equipment or robot doubles or speedbots or stealth bombers.
>>724283720Intelligence =/= wisdom.
>>724285103Best Robotnik doesn't even need inventions to mog that fraud, he's got THESE HANDS
>>724285653more like that cake
>>724275223Shouldn't it look like a satellite?
>>724285103It wasn't great but even shitty Sonic is still cool
>>724275973huh
>>724283179Didn't know you posted on 4chan, Richard.
>>724275973goo goo g'joob
>>724275790>nipples
>>724275973What the fuuuuuuuuck
>>724285103I didn't like how the composer just mashed together Flight of the Bumblebee for Sonic's theme and Hall of the Mountain King for Robotnik and called it a day
>>724275223Robotnik has more personality than the nips ever gave to smegman.
>>724285747i watched both shows when they aired. i'm making fun of these kids who hate on SatAM while probably also having never actually watched a single episode of Adventures of and knowing it only through YTPs>>724285810literally who
>>724286001Hall of the Mountain King is the theme of the S.S.S.S.S. Squad. Robotnik himself has this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxN6G3Tvcg
>>724275223Eggman is all right when it's something Sonic calls him as an insult, but it makes no sense for him to concede to it with his planet-sized ego.
>>724283179OK, so you're genuinely too stupid to comprehend what I mean when I talk about deeper motives or the design clashing. Are you a genuine nigger? This is "But I did eat breakfast" tier.
robotnig
>>724286154Japan liked Hall of the Mountain King for him so much, they adopted it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMceVbENQK4&t=13s
>>724281530It's a very simple hole to fill. We know from sonic 1 manual that him and sonic faced off before. Eggman was an insult by sonic towards robotnik, and he took it and owned it as his own, maybe even liking the ring of it.
>>724286130I only had some of the Adventures one on VHS. It had an episode where Robotnik imprisoned a retarded satirical cartoonist bird in a prison for making fun of him. As a kid I knew the show was shitty but I didn't care because I loved Sonic and they pretty much nailed his character. I never saw or even heard about the other show until much later
>>724286225>when I talk about deeper motivesplease tell me all about AoStH's Robotnik's "deeper motives"lmaopost hand, let's break out the color swatches.
>>724286264The way this is framed makes it seem more like it's Sonic's theme.
>>724286292this is why sonic should have just called him "faggot" instead
>>724282129He should be canonized as Robotnik Senior.
>>724286154>Robotnik himself has thisYou can tell the same guy composed it because at the end there that theme randomly starts quoting the melody from Dukas' Sorcerer's Apprentice.
>>724286292In-universe canon is that he didn't start calling himself "Dr. Eggman" until some time between Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, though. I guess you could just say he took it on board as branding for some of his machines but didn't go as far as making it his persona until later thoughbeit.
>>724282680>Yes. Your cartoon is shit and I'm glad it's finally fading from relevance.Forces was literally the japs doing an abridged SatAM freedom fighters plot.
>>724276641>Doofenshmirtz but more boring
Does Dr. Robotnik have any ultimate aims? What's his goal in life? It seems like he's just destined forever to build really cool shit that gets destroyed by Sonic for no reason.
>>724276641yeah, this is a solid design, has adventurous undertones
>>724286563he hates that hedgehog
>>724286485>Hey, everybody! Forget THOSE guys.>OUR guys are the freedom fighters now!i'm glad Mania fucking wiped the floor with it.
>>724286563>Eggman: build Eggmanland.>SatAM Robotnik: total global domination through any and every means necessary or available.>AoStH Robotnik: hating one single hedgehog.
>>724286650Someone should make a new series of this show using Sora AI but feed a bunch of Tails Gets Trolled lore into it
>>724286430>Orchestral motif in the middle of a goofy OSTI like ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO6JqbExOZM
>>724286773kek that's Brahms, sick
>>724285103I watched both SatAM and AoStH recently and the latter Robotnik easily clears.The former simply is very interchangeable and not very memorable, he was a pretty generic cartoon villain even back then and he only left a lasting memory in SatAM/Archie fans, aka people who were already fans of the series. No one but them speaks about him.AoStH Robotnik on the other hand is a chaotic evil villain who was clearly written to be entertaining foremost and is backed up with a very memorable voice. Even people who haven't watched that show know about that iteration, one left a lasting impact and the other didn'tI won't fight you on AoStH being a discount R&S but to imply that one is better than the other just because he's more competent or whatever is disingenuous. It all comes down to execution and SatAM did not nail it
A challenger appears!His transformation into Adventure Eggman was novel.
>>724283179>AoStH Robotnik has nothing going for him except "I'M LE GOOFY" which is just as one-note, you sped.Its fine for a comedic character to be one-note, as long as hes funny and AoSth Robotnik is Funny. Satam Eggman is just boring, not unlike the rest of Satam>>724286485And Forces sucks too. whats your point
>>724281530Frontiers addressed it via Egg memos. Sonic started calling him Eggman because fat and Eggman vowed to make the name Eggman a name to be feared out of spite.
>>724275223I wanna see this nigga in the games
One of the reasons I hate SA2 is because of how shoddily they portray Robotnik. He's basically a babyface (well up until he murders Sonic) he has no real henchmen or allies and is a minor unimportant character. He's not a big deal and the final boss belongs to some melodrama from his tragic grandfather. You shouldn't be able to play as him, it's just wrong. SA2 unfixably destroyed Sonic forever
Every time they make Robotnik into a horror character like Starved they should keep Sonic the same because it's funny.>>724287097Speak of the Devil, the panel that inspired my bit.
>>724286905I forget what happened? They killed off the real Robotnik for GOOD without Sega even knowing about it and had his robot doppleganger adopt his persona to keep the series going?
Has there ever been a foe which was too powerful EVEN for Super Sonic?
>>724287267Nope, he just put the adventure outfit and that was it.
>>724287097I really dislike how IDW writes eggman as a threat even when hes out of a machine. His power comes from his legions and his intellect, not from the fact that he can aim a gunIt really is a reminder that IDW is just fanfiction
>>724287267That was Archie. This is StC/Fleetway RobotnikHe's very big.
>>724286896where to begin>interchangeableyou could replace AoStH Robotnik with Gargamel and maintain the tone. he's as much a generic comedy villain as SatAM Robotnik is a sinister one.>he only left a lasting memory on the people who watched and liked the showoh shit really???>chaotic evilnah. zany evil.>memorable voiceare you saying Jim Cummings doesn't have a memorable voice?>AoStH has relied on memes and YTPs to keep it alive because most of the people referencing its Robotnik weren't alive or have even watched the show beforeagreeto imply one is better than the other for such shaky, easily refutable reasons is also disingenuous. Long John Baldry was famous for knowing the Beatles, not voice work. Jim Cummings has voiced everything.it executed exactly what it set out to; create a sinister villain for a story more dark and dramatic than most Saturday morning cartoons. the only thing that got more dark and dramatic was Batman.
>>724287097I like eggman when he's a total schizo, he's kinda like the joker in a way where they've tried so many approaches to what his character should be that I think the best solution is "he's kind of fucking insane and whether he's doing wile e coyote shit to catch that hedgehog or actively taking over the world really just depends on the day"
>>724275790Robotnik with attitude was the best design
>>724285810That's a fucking name I haven't heard in years. I don't even remember what he did outside if being a diaper faggot but I still hate this nigga.
>>724287221>sonic I'm going to rape you>yikes! Time to speed, keed!
>>724287356>are you saying Jim Cummings doesn't have a memorable voice?nta but for eggman? no. I hear jim cummings I think of pete, or if you want something more sinister and less cartoony the boat guy from scooby doo on zombie island. my mind doesn't jump to eggman at all, I'd go so far to say it's probably the last voice I think of when it comes to eggman. even moreso than the OVA which was a one-off
>>724287315That's pretty funny, yeah I was referencing the panel where it shows his robot body being destroyed in the US comic and then it happens to the the Adventure design, the other Eggmans look like hilarious bootleg ones. Im kinda glad your UK ones had an entire different lore for the costume change too. kinda cool.>>724287462Alright gimmie the QRD on this lolcow, he cant be worse then the pamper pikachu dude.
>>724276415>he hated the name teddy>stuck even harder as a resultLul
>>724285103>>724284487lol mad
>>724287614Hey, the one on the left kinda looks like Wily.
>>724287614I'm American actually. I just found it funny the way they transitioned from classic Sonic to Fleetway compared to our comic in America. The ride back in 2014 was something else.
>>724287614they were cooking with the hulk hogan eggman in the middle
>>724282129WHERES THE CAKE EGGMAN
>>724285103Yet he still fails in the end, but we see no humility from him, and there's no pay off whatsoever. Also, he does not have a single meme tied to his iteration, kek.
>>724287581do you think that might possibly have anything to do with your age, perhaps?maybe that's why your mind goes to a late '90s Scooby movie and not, oh, Pooh or Zummi or Don Karnage? see, i think of Fat Cat.but to say his voice in SatAM wasn't sinister is ridic. his General Parvo voice is the one that wasn't sinister.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vl3XPkOVqw
>>724276641Honestly my favorite characterization of him if nothing else.
>>724287925when did Eggman's "humility" ever stick?end of SA2, he was making nice with everyone and, *pop*, next game he's right back to it.it's like that every single time he "teams up" with Sonic and the gang.expecting humility out of him is like believing Dr. Wily finally turned good for real this time.
>>724287356Watching the show =/ being a fan of itI did not shit on Jim Cummings voice work btw, not sure where you got that from. I just said that John Baldry's voice for Robotnik is much more memorable. Whether or not he used to be a voice actor or not literally doesn't matter in this scenarioAgain read the end of my post. Yes, SatAM Robotnik does fill his role in the story but that does not mean he's automatically good, because that's literally what AoStH Eggman does yet he's entertaining but the former doesn't need to be because??Regardless of how you feel AoStH Robotnik is the one people remember. Go ask literally anyone about Robotnik in the older Sonic cartoons and there's a marginally higher chance they bring up that Robotnik and not SatAM's
>>724288114>moving goalposts immediately
>>724287356> Long John Baldry was famous for knowing the Beatles, not voice work. Jim Cummings has voiced everything.So? That doesn't matter, Baldrys' voice is still more recognizable as robotnik than Cummings Cummings did a great job mind you, he was just working with generic material
https://youtu.be/AEuG4fpY1JE?si=7ytKhbZ23WxaHAM7
That's all well and good, but how do we deal with the fact that SONIC CRAPPED IN THE FORCEFIELD?
>>724288126!= != whatever in the hell =/ is supposed to be. also>huge AoStH fan excited to watch it for the first timelol>I did not shit on Jim Cummings voice work btw, I just said this guy who had one notable voice role did a better job than him, a professional and prolific voice actor>isn't entertainingbut he is, because of his menace. you can keep saying "not entertaining" as many time as you like, your opinion will not magically become fact.yes, i'm glad we agree, the YTPs are the only reason AoStH is remembered at all.
>>724275445This is the best robotnik
>>724288140>bring up a point all on your own about humility>point out that it doesn't even fit the point you're trying to make>"M-MOVING GOALPOSTS," you proclaim, as i watch you feverishly start digging up the posts you yourself planted for quick relocation.
>>724275290
>>724288521that's implying I actually care enough
>>724288654glad we sorted that out ;)
>>724288670I did, you did nothing on the matter.
>>724287346Did you forget he runs as fast as Sonic and held a handheld gun on Amy in Adventure 2?
>>724288739and he can punch cars, don't forget about that
>>724288724that's implying i actually care
>>724288739Full Eggman game with his own courses when.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJCqSQ_j4Y
>>724288739>he runs as fast as Sonic We both know he doesn't actually do that. Those are just the classic games being limited in how they can visualy convey events >held a handheld gun on Amy in Adventure 2?Him taking a weak hostage with it is different from him being threatening because he has it >>724288825Your not meant to play ass Eggman outside of his mech, so it doesn't count! Thats like saying Sonic can shape shift because of debug mode
>>724288920>dude a man with a gun isn't threatening unless it's how i say he is
>>724288920>different from him being threatening"Hurry up Sonic, or she WILL die!"
>>724288920I'm talking about Sonic Riders where he's on his little rinky-dink scooter punching cars out of his way
>>724286563He wants to destroy Israel. Sonic is a marvel reddit golem trying to stop him
>>724288902glad we sorted that out ;)
>>724289000checkedmods ban me this time you fuckers, I want to get out of here
>>724289350i did, you did nothing on the matter
>>724287719just like eggman
>>724289000>>724289076Let me rephraseEggman shouldn't be retarded enough to think that a simple laser pistol is enough to be one of his main weapons against someone like Tails who routinely keeps up with Sonic. See pic related, or any of the times he uses his physicality against a blobian (only happens in IDW btw)Him holding Amy hostage is different because for one, the gun wasn't the main crux of his plan. The gun in combination with the weakling hostage was more of a tool to get sonic in the right place than a weapon. >>724289085Fair, but even if hes strong enough to do that hes not strong enough to compete with even tails. He shouldn't be equipping himself like hes a foot solider because thats not what he is, he is a commander not a grunt
>>724275223Robotnik voiced by Long John Baldry will forever be the original, don't care aboutthe games.
>>724287614>Alright gimmie the QRD on this lolcow, he cant be worse then the pamper pikachu dude.The KING of SatAMtroons from back in the day, notable for starting arguments with literal children online about how "Sonic sucks now" while having his diaper fetish being way, way too easy to find (resulting in counter-bullying from said children). He also had overly ambitious plans to make a movie set in the SatAM universe that probably would've had Linkara-grade production values even if it went anywhere.
>>724289681>only happens in IDW btwWrong, he does it several times in Archie as well.
>>724289845Thats fanfiction as well so it only bolsters my point It even makes more sense there than it does in idw since hes a cyborg
>>724275290>his name is RobotnikYes he is, Sega solved the name problem by saying his real name IS Robotnik but Sonic calls him Eggman to mock him for being fat and bald
>>724287614>>724289806I liked that time he almost burst into tears because a kid in a game story called the Robotnik on his SatAM shirt "Eggman" and he posted that online as if people would take his side.
>>724287221>Every time they make Robotnik into a horror character like Starved they should keep Sonic the same because it's funny.This, but unironically. Sonic staring down things that ACTUALLY look horrific in canon (i.e. Dark Gaia) while spouting lame quips is part of his charm.
>>724289917US version only.that line is completely different in JP SA1.he's literally never been called Robotnik in a Japanese game even once.
>>724290059What is his Grandpa named then?
>>724290059"Robotnik Empire" appears in the prerendered cutscene where he blows up half the moon, why would he shill someone else's empire in a video where he proclaims himself to be the first person to rule over the entirety of Earth?
>>724289806Fucking kek, getting bullied by kids over a sonic cartoon, cmon man>he also had overly ambitious plans to make a movie set in the SatAM universe that probably would've had Linkara-grade production values even if it went anywhere.That's amazing he even had his own outsider art ideas as per usual with these people.
>>724290106everyone calls him Professor Gerald.Maria is only ever called Maria.Eggman does call him Gerald Robotnik, but only twice, both times within a few minutes of each other, and only at the end of the game.
>>724290209sure, but no character in any (Japanese) Sonic game has literally ever called him that.
>>724275321>eggman is for the europeanWrong.
>>724288427ACTIVATE THE HEDGEHOG DICK GRIPPERHURRY
>>724289442that's implying i actually care
>>724290360Why would Eggman, in Japanese, put "Robotnik Empire" in the video of him taking over the world? Why would he do that? Answer that question.
>>724290627when have you ever heard a Sonic character, including HIMSELF, call him Robotnik in the Japanese version of literally any game? answer that question.i think the SA2 example you bring up is the first time that name was even displayed in the Japanese version of any game or spinoff.
>>724290834Just answer his question bro. Quit being a faggot.
>>724286739AoStH Robotnik feels more like a malicious prankster than anything else. Plenty of his plots have nothing to do with Sonic and THAT HEDGEHOG just barges in and ruins them.>having Scratch and Grounder demolish villages for the kick of it>steal everyone's Christmas presents>destroy all musical instruments on Mobius (because he hates what's on the radio)>establish a hotel to grift off of it>that one episode where he actually HAS established territory and is maintaining military logistics to crush rebels>feuding with rival mad scientistsA man for all seasons!
>>724290928>Eggman wrote "I am genius" in his announcement
>>724275290fpbp
>>724281969>Moustache and yellow part of his clothes makes him look like a Walrusholy shit wait I never noticed that before
>>724291116I am the Eggman, you are the Eggman, I am the Walrus, coo coo catchoo.
>>724290928because the Sonic Team of the time felt like it.still waiting for an answer to mine.here's a bonus one:when has that name ever been displayed in the Japanese version of a Sonic game since?
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>>724291296do either of those people look like Eggman to you?
How do you guys feel about Jim Carrey's Dr. Ivo Robotnik?
>>724289189>All you ungrateful people who took everything away from me
So we're all in agreement that the Chaos Council from Sonic Prime are the worst iteration of the character, right?
>>724291360One of them does, yes.
>>724291432he was tolerable in the first two but I hated him in the third one
>>724291495and yet, page 6 of the exact same manual
>>724275223Robotnik is a man, Eggman is some weird mutant thing
>>724287581Funnily enough, the old unreleased(?) AoStH pilot gives us a direct comparison here. Cummings voices Adventures Robotnik and it's literally just Disney Pete.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ0GPOJ98kg
>>724291490Yes. Absolutely. They thought they were being funny splitting Eggman up into multiple characters, but none of them had unique personalities. Just your standard surface level shit.
>>724291545That guy looks like Robotnik.
>>724291634but he's called Eggman
>>724291296So here's the weird thing about this: Professor Gerald Robotnik is 100% Japanese canon, but Eggman real name is VERY DIRECTLY unknown. This means that his name COULD hypothetically be "Robotnik" if Gerald is his grandfather on his father's side, AND if Eggman's father kept his family name from Gerald. However, there is absolutely zero lore on which side of Eggman's family Maria and Gerald are from, which means that Robotnik could have just as easily been his mother's maiden name.
ro-butt-nik
>>724291515Really? I liked him in 1, hated him in 2, and loved him in 3. Sonic 1's Robotnik felt like a balance of Eggman's comical traits and him being colder and more malicious to sell him as a glownigger in our world, and 2 made him feel so over-the-top cartoony/ridiculous (more so than game!Eggman) that the iterations felt incompatible with each other. Sonic 3 clarifying that he isn't as edgy as we thought and he's just a lonely manchild under the robot empire retroactively reconciled his 1 and 2 portrayals and made watching 2 more fun in hindsight (for me, anyway).
>>724287719the only proper L i heard teddy get... and its a harmless nickname. Amazing
>>724291732the daddy issues were annoying and none of the stuff with him and Gerald landed for me.
>>724291680>absolutely zero lorethat may change, we'll see
>>724291680>>724291846I'm pretty sure someone at Sonic Team has been quoted as saying that if they were to do a Eggman spin off, it'd be about his family drama.That'd have to be called the Robotnik family, the majority of the drama concerns them, we know Maria's family are Robotnik's because Gerald's surname was passed down to her and we know they not only didn't approve of Maria going to space, they even grew estranged from Gerald and her uncle was too busy mourning his niece to properly raise his own son.
>>724293243>I'm pretty sure someone at Sonic Team has been quoted as saying that if they were to do a Eggman spin off, it'd be about his family drama.I just want Eggman to do a Bowser's Inside Story
>>724293243well, whatever the case, they've still given nothing towards his real name.the names of Gerald's sons are blacked out in the journal.the little bit of text on the SA2 cutscene mentioned is the closest anything has ever gotten before or since. it's never happened again.
Old bad, New good. Get with the programme you stupid fucking chuds
>>724294376"Eggman" is older than "Robotnik" retard-kun
>>724294508Nuh uh , its just an American mistranslation
>>724278047Sonic Adventure should've opened like Mario 64 with:>Dear Sonic,>Please come to the Death Egg>I've built a machine for you.>Yours Truly, Dr. Robotnik>EggmanThen I'm sure "Eggman" would've stuck among fans.
>>724294557>mistranslationlmao
>>724294508Pretty sure Gerald is older than Ivo.
>>724294968>Dear Sonic,Dear Sonic Heroes
Wrong Robotnik you PINGAS monger!
>>724295442SONIC HEROES!!!!!!(also the opening theme says it twice...)
>>724295647>Dear Pesky Sonic Heroes,Sage and I have cut out Tails' womb, filling it with human semen in a tank. We are now breeding 20 gay fox sons. I dare you to find 'em if ya can.
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HdbmAgbfio
>>724295647SONIC HE ROSE
I think both work fine for what they are. Jim Cummings is always good.Oh yeah they should also bring back Jim Cummings for a redub of the Sonic OVA since no one knows who owns the rights to the original dub. Get Jaheal White, Brian Drummond, Kath Soucie and probably Bradley Pierce back to and call it a dic cast reunion.
>>724291670yes, it's called nickname, you'd have one too if you had friends
>>724296360The perfect cast:Chris Redfield as SonicMike Pollock as EggmanDan Green as KnucklesBobby from King of the Hill as TailsLaura Bailey as Princess SarahPatrick Seitz as President King Emperor manEric Stuart as that one gay owl dudeBrian Drummund as Metal Sonic
>>724298038Oh shit, I meant Ryan Drummond as Metal Sonic. Damn voice actors names.
>>724276641he looks more like a pilot than a scientist
>>724276948>niggerman
>>724277467They're speakers that play his villain theme.
>>724283167
I hate Cream.
>>724282129That's MY Eggman, he is simply the best.
>>724286154Me and my friends recreated this in a studio for a summer once, extremely fun song and definitely made by the old masters.
>>724298203Well he does pilot his contraptions and goes around with his little hovership a lot
>>724284250YOU...
>>724293406So his real name is Neggerman? Only reason they'd need to black it out.
>>724299509You're thinking of Eggman Nega.
>>724299596both have their real name blacked out in journals
>>724275290This. Also, both of those images are from game manuals where he is called Ivo Robotnik.
>>724291754Well, his party did lose at one point.
>>724288920
>>724291670>shitposter thinks Tails is actually his name
>>724285103Why didn't the show have more badniks?
>>724286264Cute blonde
>>724275223TOMORROW I'LL
TOMORROW I'LL
>>724281909Okay, Indian.
>>724285103Adventures and SatAM both suck ass sonic X made that shit obsolete
>>724275223As far as I remember he and Sonic were friends back then(he was the one who made Sonic's boots) but later on he started doing some experiments and changed.
>>724275790>when he uses his goggles and he literally has a computer in his goggles and he analyzes the final bossSonic 06 is a shit game, like most Sonic games, but it honestly has a lot of kino moments.
>>724302864That’s from the British comics. Sonic has no origins in the games beyond fighting Eggman even before the first game’s events and IIRC being born on Christmas Island. Fun fact, there was a Sonic manga which depicted Sonic’s past as a normal Hedgehog boy named Nicky who had a sister and parents and his Sonic persona was sort of like Yugi and Yami. If I remember correctly the lore is that Sonic is Future Nicky who’s consciousness somehow travelled to the past and possessed him when needed.
I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG
>>724295786EGGMAN WONEGGMAN WON
>>724302806This but unironically.>troons spent 20 years claiming that Eggman beating up an alien warlord and calling his methods cowardly made Eggman look lame
>>724285103>>724286896>discount R&SNiggas, it was fucking Looney Tunes.
>>724303253I can’t believe Whisper jobbed…
>>724275290Based.
>>724302806All Sonic X did was prove Japan and Sonic don't mix. Every terrible trope on display, like fucking "Chris Thorndyke" self insert and power rangers villains.
