【notice】>To everyone who is looking forward to "LoveR Kiss Endless Memories.">The Steam store page is currently unavailable. Due to various circumstances, it has become difficult to release the game on the Steam platform.>However, we are currently preparing to release the PC version on another platform. We will make an official announcement once the details are finalized, so please stay tuned for further updates.>We will do our best to meet your expectations, so we hope you will continue to support "LoveR Kiss Endless Memories."I would not feel the least bit sorry if a starving artist who loses his dream project and lifeline to Steam's retarded moderation and de facto monopoly decides to take it out on Gaben and his family. He's more than earned it by this point with how much damage his shitty, hypocritical storefront is single-handedly causing to the Japanese game industry.
>currently preparing to release the PC version on another platformI swear to God if it's Johren again
>>724284406Never heard of this game before. Should I give a shit?
>>724284406>its a dating sim>and it looks like thisgood riddance
>>724284406what's with your hateful tone?
>>724284663It'll probably be DLSite. Which means not only will you have the same shitty DRM, but also have to VPN and buy points because of their ridiculous region-blocking they implemented this year.
>>724284406I wonder where they can go though? It has to be some site that isn't bound by visa and mastercard.
>>724284406>honeyselect clone>using js and jc on their steam screenshotsthey were asking for it bruhthey even went as far as asking to be included in the steam demo festival with all content uncensoredthere is much I sympathize with, retardation and self destruction are not one of them
I still remember when they banned Evenicle 2 despite allowing Evenicle 1 and the demo of Evenicle 2.Steam mods need to be held accountable for their bullshit
>>724284804Valve has been doing this for at least seven fucking years now. They will ban even the tamest fucking Japanese games over "ah bloo bloo bloo muh heckin minors" while otherwise permitting the most disgusting porn games on their platform. They will even ban fucking Teen-rated ESRB games. It was so bad that for several years, fucking Nintendo was more fair and impartial. And because they have a monopoly, their influence is outsized and significant, severely hampering the commercial prospects of any game they ban. They're a fucking multi-billion dollar corporation, being fair to foreign-made games and at bare minimum respecting the rating system is the least they could fucking do.
>>724284406I honestly think this is a good thing if they end up moving to a Japanese site. Japanese trying to have their games brought to the West hasn't ended well at all because all the channels to do it through are filled with bridge troons. It is also ridiculous that they all use a western site for game releases just because they were slow to adopt this form of PC gaming. We need the current JP stores to grow and maybe even a huge Steam competitor to be formed.
>>724284858What's there to censor? It's not a porn game.
>>724285109just uninstall steam? i did that 10 years ago and never looked back
>>724285179you can customize and date jc and js my brother in 4chan. at least thats how they advertised it here.please have some self awareness.
>>724285241Oh no, not pg13 teen romance. How dreadful and much worse than fictional murder and torture.
>>724284406incels are the most oppressed group of people
>>724285109I really wonder what would happen if a game publisher confronted Steam about the porn games. What is their response? Would they just cut off communication? I'm not sure why one of these guys doesn't just do this already and torpedo Steam on social media. Although then again, maybe the cases where something does get through are those where the publisher gets confrontational.
>>724285318And bestiality and sodomy and Nazi symbols and guro and gangbangs and fetishes and etc.
>>724284406Boy, if only Japanese people weren't fucking retarded when it came to getting money from people in the west who would love to give it to them.
>>724285804It is good in the way. It may make us have to go through hoops sometimes. But it also means there is a lot less influence from the types more western integration would mean. May the Japanese always think about their market first and foremost.
>>724284406In almost all cases, when Valve doesn't want a game on Steam, they block it before it even has the chance to have a live store page, let alone a demo announcement (with the demo SKU having been visible for a short while too).My guess is Valve was initially fine with the game, but then became afraid to host this Switch console, CERO rated game because of payment processors. I wouldn't be surprised if Valve is the first to actually start pulling the ecchi games of olde due to VISA/Mastercard.
I mean it shouldn't be surprising lmao.I called this ages ago.
>>724286298waitis this on the nintendo switch? what the fuck? name?
>>724285498They banned another JP dev's game with 0 communication. Not even a refund on his $100 release token. He's even feeling baited to just buy another token and try to release it again.
>>724286298It is not surprising. But it is still infuriating.
got my preorder locked in brosfeels good
Switch it is then. Can't wait to date JCs
>>724286298Now lets see if all the people who rallied and bitched earlier this year will do the same for this game
>>724284826Why announce in english if you're gonna release in jp only store?
>>724286540can i unironically go to the nintendo shop right now and pre-order it ? from north america btw
>>724285498>I really wonder what would happen if a game publisher confronted Steam about the porn gamesWhat do you mean by thisLike someone like EA pointing out the porn games on steam?
>>724286619Supposedly soon, but there is a physical Asian version you can preorder
>>724286474On one hand I wouldn't be surprised if this is censored on Switch after recent events. On the other hand Dragami was showing off the Switch version uncensored at TGS and are a publisher that cares deeply about censorship, so it would be a major asshole move for them to release this and hide all the censorship. Not to mention they're delisting the OG LoveR Kiss on Switch after this releases, and they have no reason to do that if they know the new version is censored.
>>724286474>>724286540It's gonna come to you censored. Nintendo are not trustworthy any more, not after Tokyo Clanpool's censorship.>>724286572They probably expect EN players to by from DLSite, not knowing that DLSite will region-lock non-porn games if it has the wrong tags/keywords. Dragami has released games on DLSite before, it seems the most natural course of action.>>724286619No, Nintendo is never releasing this in the west
>>724286740is this game or the OG available on the nintendo shop atm?
>>724286740Its a shame the new cover art isn't nearly as sexy as the original.
>>724286798>No, Nintendo is never releasing this in the westhow sure are you of this?
>>724284406Another pedo game nuked. Why do jap devs struggle so much with this? Are they mentally retarded? Too used to decades of wink wink nudge nudge everyone is 18 we promise bullshit?
>>724286801They're running a final sale for the OG game (simply called LoveR Kiss) on the Japanese eshop. It's only 958 yen, though do note that A. This version doesn't support English, only the new version does, and B. This doesn't include any DLC, the game has hundreds of them. They're all in the new version.If you can't read JP and want to mess around in the OG version anyway, you can still feel free to buy it, you'll get a discount on the new version for owning it.
>>724286740>On the other hand Dragami... are a publisher that cares deeply about censorshipSo was Eastasiasoft, and they still hid Tokyo Clanpool's censorship right up to the day of release, even refusing to answer multiple inquiries.>>724286801The original is available on the JP eshop. It's also currently heavily discounted as well, and will be delisted a week before Endless Memories goes up.
>>724286875jewish post
>>724286921not worth all the hassle but thanks anon you're a good anon
>>724286875Go get raped by a bear you cowardly bootlicker. Valve would want you to.
>>724286572It was going to come out in English, but DLSite is almost certainly the best they can manage, so the English-speaking fans who have been waiting at minimum deserve to know what happened even if they won't be able to buy it.>>724286863They've rugpulled bigger games previously.
>>724286989>So was Eastasiasoft, and they still hid Tokyo Clanpool's censorship right up to the day of release, even refusing to answer multiple inquiries.If this comes out censored without Dragami saying anything, then I hope /v/ is ready to admit this company is nothing but grifters.
>>724286863They won't even let Neptunia through any more, and Kanon had to scrub fucking kissing and handholding of all things from its western Switch release.
>>724287231>handholdingal-haram kerdahe
Anyone know what the limited edition DLC code is for?
>>724284406steamies will defend this btw
>>724284406>due to various circumstancescall them racists and xenophobesif you want change you need to frame it in terms leftists will empathize withstop being all "Shouganai" bitches about it
>>724286989I didn't follow this, is the any way to play the game uncensored, mods or otherwise, or is that minigame lost to time?
>>724287442By far the biggest reason otaku media crumbled is because Japs are passive and hate confrontation.Ironically this exact publisher was acting like releasing Lollipop Chainsaw uncensored was some massive hurdle they had to fight to the teeth for. But that was likely just marketing and they never had any issues releasing it.This is their first time actually getting confronted about their content.
>even the nips have caught on to Steam's bans>all the reactions are: yeah we sort of expected itLMAO ecchi games are fuckedGacha won
>>724287560Eastasiasoft keeps being a bunch of key-jingling fuckheads saying "the patch is coming, the patch is coming, we're waiting for a big announcement." So no, you can't get that minigame on the PC or Switch versions. You'll have to go back to the Vita for that. Knowing Japanese, of course.
>>724287632ok what is this "minigame" and why is it so censored?
>>724287560Only the original Vita version is uncensored. Supposedly Eastasiasoft are going to release a patch. SUPPOSEDLY being the keyword, they've been teasing it for nearly a year now with nothing to show.
>>724287615Gacha games are tame compared to what was happening on the Vita. It's still all watered down shit.
>>724287665Ether Induction, an erotic rubbing minigame using the touchscreen typical of Compile Heart Vita games at the time.https://www.compileheart.com/tokyo_clanpool/system/?page=2https://www.gematsu.com/2017/08/tokyo-clanpool-ether-induction-trailerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk_9rc_wxxY(video is age-restricted)Such minigames are arguably the fastest way to get your game nuked from every platform now as the mindset that they somehow promote rape is clearly deeply seated within the industry. Three different platforms in three different countries rejected this minigame completely despite already hosting games with nearly the exact same content.
>>724287615I feel like ecchi highschool galges are just fated to die
>>724284406Jump off a bridge you fucking nonce.
>>724287665You rub the girls (which is just a static JPG) with the cursor and they moan. It's actually even quite a bit more tamer than Compile Heart's other rubbing minigames.
>>724287757>>724287795hahahahaha but i fucking do this on my gacha games like brown dust 2? what an odd thing to censor
>>724284406why do that when you can simply target his yatch fleet instead?
>>724287773Go after the people actually raping kids with institutional power instead of a bunch of powerless NEETs just playing niche foreign games in their room, you gutless fucking coward just looking for a safe and approved outlet to vent.
>>724286672Like someone who submitted a game pointing out their hypocrisy and possibly even threatening them with exposure (or just exposing them regardless).
So...is the west going to care that this got banned or...?
>>724287985Yeah good luck with that.The issue with these bans to begin with is that no one is willing to defend the "icky" porn games.
>>724287987I expect all the furries and left wing journalists who were clamoring for "we need to defend freedom of expression from payment processors even if we don't like it" to simply see this, go "yup, I see why it was banned" and that is it.
>>724287710this shit is why we arent getting psp3
>>724287710what is the most lewd/sexual/porn official vita/psp game?
>>724287847>gachaThose aren't games, though. Just like you're not human.
>>724284406>eroge>alternative platformslollmao
>>724287987We were always a sidepiece anyway. It was inevitable that this stuff was going to have issues being ported from the moment insane people filled all of the localization roles. They get an easy daycare job while making it harder for their enemies to access what they like.
>>724288214>presses new game on the lbgt of us 2 for the xth timethis you?
>https://may.2chan.net/b/res/1361748244.htm>it cant be helpedFucking lmao. Even the japs are resigned to the fact that steam is like this.
>>724288192Bullet Girls Phantasia gets my vote, though the Vita version is terrible if you were specifically looking to play it on Vita. Also on PC and PS4.One of the last ecchi games too, released just before Sony implemented their policies.
>>724288214Don't respond to gacha shill fags. They desperately hate any actual game with sexy elements and hope they stay down because they fear if they perform well then gacha will stop being mass-produced. They are especially desperate now since gacha is declining since the fad has passed.
>>724288397oh god what is this tentacle porn?
>>724288435It's the closest the line has ever been blurred between ecchi and hentai game, but what you're seeing there released on PS4/Vita and even Steam exactly as is.
>>724288252Valve is a monopoly that abuses their power to gatekeep games they don't like, and the sooner we acknowledge this, the better.https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/secret-kiss-is-sweet-and-tender-switch/This is a Teen-rated game that was blocked by Steam. Even fucking Nintendo had no issue with it (back then). People need to fucking stop acting like Valve isn't capable of not being total fucking shitheads with their rules. Yeah, they have a rule against child porn, everyone does, that doesn't fucking mean they have to block every single PG Japanese game where a highschooler shows panties, that's just them being retarded and biased.
>JP games media reporting this as unfair treatment against Japanese developmentWhen are all those Japanese politicians who won their positions off of "freedom of manga/anime/games expression" going to actually do something?
>>724286798>>724287231Why are you fags still lying?You keep getting exposed about the niggery that eastasiasoft pulled and lied about.Do you really think anons forgot after rainfall2.0?About this shit coming up in near every famitsu thread?
>>724288759When they stop being corporate puppets, aka never.
>>724288759They may not be able to do anything to Valve as they're headquartered in America, but at the very fucking least they should shove their foot up Sony and Nintendo's asses over the same behavior, and then maybe we can start healing since Japs tend to favor consoles anyway (unfortunately).
>>724288435
>>724289007why is her uterus trembling like that agent 007?
>>724287442>call them antijapanesefix'd that.Address what it is.It's them being explictly against Japanese culture and stylings.You need to shame and demonize the antijapanese scum
>>724288873Japs will never go against Nintendo, maybe Sony is fair-game now but I doubt even that. If Nintendo declared ecchi games to be undesirable media then Japs will simply go with that mindset.
>>724289057nonot sure if you noticed but its socially acceptable to be prejudice against the Japanese in most social media spheresyou need to leave the label broad enough so emotional reactionaries attribute it to their sacred cow races and maybe do some soul searching
>>724286798DLsite never region locks all ages titles. Machine Child don't have geoblock.
>>724289318
>>724288612nintendo clearly had a "we might fuckin die lmao, so just let publishers release whatever" mindset for the early switch. now that they switch got mega successful, they're obviously ditching that because the can be picky again. that's why the e-shop was shovelware central as well and nintendo had to start cracking down.
>>724288759someone should tell them to loudly proclaim this as another act of antijapanese spite, much like ass creed shadows
>>724284406Oh no! Anyway...
>>724289358>that's why the e-shop was shovelware central as well and nintendo had to start cracking down.I would prefer they would be picky over all this low effort slop that comes out and clouds the E-shop.
>>724289573It's still clogging up the eshop since the chink publishers have gotten adept at gaming the system by now, while the actual games by actual otaku publishers like qureate and Compile Heart get tossed in the same pile and they don't have the same options that the AI sloppers do to get around the censorship and shadowbans. So what you have now is literally the worst of both worlds.
>>724284798What exactly do you expect a dating sim to look like?
>>724289289God damn you are one inbred retard nigger.NOYou call it antijapanese.Period.They hate the Japanese people. They hate Japanese culture, norms, values, and ethics.They want it all destroyed and erased and given to nonjapanese, especially indians.I do NOT fucking care if those who are antijapanese agree with me, they are immoral scum and will be called as such.Stop fucking being a dickless loser and playing a game you can't win.Start taking moves towards a victory you giant pussy.
>>724284406How do I rig the Steam approver gacha?
>>724290030losing it is purely a skill issue desu
>>724284406Stop saying monopoly, retard
>>724286298How so? That's just a swimsuit??
>>724290193anon with 80% of nearly all game sales happen in one place it is infact a soft monopoly.We've trust busted for less.Steam needs to not be so wishy-washy on what they approve of and have firm, clear, set rules for approval that all people tasked with approval must follow no matter personal preference or bent.
>>724290193It is when they have effective veto power over all PC releases because of >>724288252Call it the network effect, call it a "natural monopoly", but the fact remains that Steam has cornered the PC market to the point they are basically the only relevant storefront by miles and miles. A monopoly is a monopoly no matter how it got there.
>>724290324Fuck off timmy
Looks like there store exclusive DLC too, like Amiami. That's annoying.
>>724290030Real answer? Pass it through known publishers. And even these guys have had a game or two banned over the course of their existence.
>>724290597Bokiboki>3th anniversythirth????
>>724285109It's unironically racism. They ban randomly ban Japanese games
>>724290597Yeah this is itThe reason why ecchi games get hit more often than hentai games is that they didnt adapt fast enough to steams retarded rules
>>724284406Patch it, stop sending valve loli ass, especially right after payment processors just threatened to kill them overnight. If the most degenerate shit on dlsite can get onto steam, anything can get onto steam. Just patch it, god damn.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3845600/Living_with_a_Little_Fox_Girl/This released on steam the same day lovers got bannedNo excuses
>>724289057>>724287442No, you need the japanese to learn how this shit works. Inundating steam with loli is just going to spark an inevitable purge when some whiny bitches raise a fuss and payment processors wave their dicks around. Fucking patch it.
>>724291415Reviewer roulette. Every valve employee has tons of freedom and autonomy. Not worth gambling and praying you get a lenient one, just patch it.
>>724291558Why in the FUCK wuld you want the Japanese to degrade themselves?Fuck you, rot in Hell.What the Japanese need to do is call steam antijapanese and not put their shit there till they treat their games fairly and without baisis.Stop being a cuck.
>>724291785Because they want to sell it on a western storefront in the west and the west is full of puritanical retards, you fucking retard. Don't try to get the store nuked just because you're some sperg who doesn't want to adapt and then cries when you get denied. It's a mere minor inconvenience vs not being able to sell the game at all or getting steam in deep shit.
>>724284798Doesn't matter what it looks like. There are worse looking, more dangerous content, allowed on the platform and is readily available.
>>724290597The reason these guys slip things past is because they use offsite patches so what they're selling on steam is completely clean. For some reason ecchi games won't do this.
>>724291972The storefront absolutely should get fucvking nuked with how shitty they treat Japanese devs plus their instant cucking to visa and mastercard.Valve has plenty of influence to tell them to fuck off. switch to crypto, pressure the us government, get fans to mass call/email WHEN THEY WHERE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH SUCH!But no you just want everyone to roll over and die.Fuck you. Prove you aren't some glownigger worm.
>>724291785>being able to put literally whatever you want in a patch on pc with zero console restrictions is degrading themselves>when they constantly bend over for console censorship with no recourseRight. Or they could simply make a patch and sell 1 million copies of their little sister loli sex simulator on steam without any real restrictions and without risking steam getting screwed.
>>724292220>For some reason ecchi games won't do this.Thats because ecchi games didnt need to do that before so they always get caught offguard
>>724292220Didn't Steam update their rules relatively recently to ban exactly what you're suggesting?
>>724292275>Valve has plenty of influence to tell them to fuck offNo, they do not. You have no clue just how huge payment processors are. Valve is TINY compared to them, both monetarily and with their piddly 350 employees. If they wanted to wipe Steam out overnight, they could easily do so while Valve is left to flounder.
>>724285241>jc and jsIn English, please.
>>724290030submit the game with chinese text only and then add an english translation in a patch after it gets approved. "mary" doesn't speak chinese so you will always get someone else reviewing the game.
>>724284406Based Steam protecting us from pedoshit
>>724292439Nah. That only applies to hgames launching as early access.
>>724292568uoh and uooooh
>>724290281a swimsuit of WHAT?!?!
>>724284406Now if only they were doing this with guroshit like that citadel crap instead of just some tame lewd stuff.
You can’t play videogames where you hold a girl’s hand, but you can go to a burger king and rape any 14 year old you like, it’s legal if you finish under a minute
>>724289936You are never going to win this argument. Asians and the japanese aren't viewed as some oppressed minority in the west, they're put on par with whites. They're just not dumb and violent enough for bored white women to care. And they're especially not going to care, and will become outright hostile, when you're doing it to try and push loli games. The japanese need to adapt if they want to sell in the west, because the west sure as fuck isn't, especially with the new laws targeting art. A simple patch is the best way to do that.
>>724292832>if you finish under a minuteyou'd know about that wouldn't you
>>724284406It can't be helped
>>724292658??????
>>724292326>bro just degrade your artistic vision and culture for faggots that hate you and your peopleNo.That's how WE got into this mess in the West.Stop chasing the false god of economy>>724292502why are you fucking lying?They absolutely fucking do. Again valve has contacts with several people in the us government. they can flex that power.Plus a few dozen spergs calling visa and master card completely tanked the morale and confidence of employees.Valve could have easily added fuel to the fire and make it unbarable for them.they are not monoliths and can be broken you sackless doompilling cuck.
>>724291785Sony and Nintendo makes them degrade themselves with their unavoidable restrictions and censorship. Both Japanese.PC does not. They have total freedom if they would just adapt to it. If some of the most degenerate games on DLsite, that DLsite won't even show anyone outside Japan, can be advertised on the front page and sold on Steam, anything can be sold on Steam. They just need to read Steam's guidelines and make a patch. Valve doesn't even care how gutted the game is and the people buying the game will know what's up and still get the full experience.
>>724293845>dude invest one million dollars that can be flushed down the toilet if a blue haired retard gets your ticket
>>724293547>They absolutely fucking do. Again valve has contacts with several people in the us government. they can flex that power.No. This not even up for debate. That's not how anything works.>Plus a few dozen spergs calling visa and master card completely tanked the morale and confidence of employees.And what did that achieve other than annoying some call center employees with zero power? Are you still calling? Because absolutely nothing came of it. If you want to keep calling and seeing zero results because you'd rather see the games randomly get shot down over simply pushing the japanese to start making games for steam with patches in mind, be my guest, but it's not going to work.
>>724293057Just because you are a dumb inbred nigger doesn't stop my argument from being correct.Pull your head from your arsehole.Attacking the Japanese due to theim being Japanese, due to their Japanese culture is immoral.Period.There is no further discussion.This 'muuuuh opresssuuunnn'''' is fucking irrelevant!STOP. LIVING. IN. A. NARRATIVE. DESIGNED. FOR. YOU. TO. LOSE!Dumbfuck!It's been fifteen years at the absolute minium!Learn that you just using their own tactics HAS NEVER WORKED BECAUSE ITS DESIGNED TO NEVER WORK FOR YOU!It'santijapaneseyou dumb cock sucker
>>724293926>dude just don't do anything and keep getting banned and censored everywhere lolWinning strategy.
>>724294176I swear to god, you are an idiot. You want to keep losing, keeping arguing like that. You will see nothing but more games getting censored and banned. That angle you're trying to push is totally worthless.Hell, and on an individual level, people are just going to hate you and want to side against you out of spite.
>>724294176it doesn't matter if it's immoral. so is raping children but that doesn't stop the rich and famous. calling out a company for being "anti-japanese" won't accomplish shit because no one cares.
>>724293845>Sony and Nintendo makes them degrade themselves with their unavoidable restrictions and censorship. Both JapaneseOkay?And?Where did I say Japanese can't be antijapanese?Sony has been since mid ps4 if not earlier, everyone on /v/ is well aware to this fact.Both should stop censoring if the game has a proper rating for its region.>pc has total freedom>...if you bow down cuck out and remove the content for fans to patch it inSo.Not total freedom because they aren't free to release the game as they so please.>>724294170It is how shit works actually, especially as Trump is tearing down a lot of this putrid shit, even if slowly.The fact you/you both are pushing so hard for people to not push back, not build alternatives says a lot about your goals.
>>724284406Would they be based enough for GoG
>>724294442>>724294461And you both are blind shit huffing apes.This sort of argumentation is already making changes and getting shit done.You are the faggots who won't achieve anything, just like the last 15 years.And it's antijapanese, no hyphen you troglodyte.
>>724294564>>Not total freedom because they aren't free to release the game as they so please.They are. Tell me how monochrome sister selling 1 million copies on steam with a patch was such a terrible thing for the dev and players. Please enlighten me.
>>724290030You make it a porn game, it goes to a different reviewer. Mary is only in charge of the ecchi stuff
crazy how school uniform is like a thought crime now
>>724294564>especially as Trump is tearing down a lot of this putrid shit, even if slowly.Bro, Trump and republicans are making this shit so much worse. Every red state has basically just made loli outright illegal with extremely broad obscenity laws that explicitly go after art.
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>>724284406But why? It's not even an adult or nsfw game.
>>724294564>The fact you/you both are pushing so hard for people to not push backLiterally nobody is saying that. They are saying change your approach. If anything, you sound like the saboteur with this kind of behavior.
>>724294663They aren't actually. How about you answer what harm befalls valve for letting the games on their store unaltered after it already has a registered rating?Why they get to be a further unchecked judge and jury over what is ''''acceptable'''?Valve WILL make it so off-site patches are not allowed one day, what then?Your faggot dickless ass will still defend them like the corporate dick sucker you are.
>>724295005Valve already bans patches like that
>>724295080They only ban it if you hint at their existence on steam.
>>724294847You infact are saying devs shouldn't complain, shouldn't demand an answer for the antijapanese bent of these companies and just suck it up and hope they don't put out more restrictive guidelines later on.>>724294760hyperbolic much? hasn't affected my state.he is still ousting some of the treasonous curs at least from positions of power, knee capping things like usaid, un, etc.Not perfect but its a start.cunt still needs to put the epstein list out. before you pull that one
>>724295005>How about you answer what harm befalls valve for letting the games on their store unaltered after it already has a registered rating?Random bitches throw a fit and payment processors impose their own arbitrary bullshit rules and threaten to wipe steam out. EasyNow answer my question.>Valve WILL make it so off-site patches are not allowed one day, what then?Why would they? It's not their jurisdiction or problem and gives them plausible deniability and legal safety. Methinks you just want to throw your own fit while offering zero solutions.
>>724294760Nice desperate lefty subversion tactic. Leftists are spouting this shit because they want the anime censoring tools back in their hands.Trump is saving anime. By 2026 all the DEI will be washed away. Anime is inherently anti-left and will never be saved by a Dem.
>>724291972>>724292502I like how this simp pretends that Valve doesn't approve games with loli marraige every single day and nobody says shit about it. No Visa, No Mastercard. This is on Valve having absolute retards for reviewers.
>>724285109>Steam is a monopoly! >that's why they have to release on a different store!Retard-kun...
>>724285109They're scum, this is why monopolies are bad. They already instantly folded when Visa came knocking.>>724295323The game will be lucky to sell 20k copies on DLsite, while they could easily sell 100k+ on Steam.
>>724295323Steam IS a monopoly and the different stores are basically irrelevant compared to Valve.It's Google having a 94% marketshare in the search market. They're absolutely monopolies. Any competition they may get may as well be a garage operation compared to them. It's why they fund Firefox.
>>724295235No, I'm saying devs should take all this into account and then make the game they want make so they can then sell the game they made without it getting altered or shut down by outsiders.
>>724295280Right. So just make it illegal instead, that'll show those godless lefties.
>>724293845You're a literal retard. This isn't even a porn game, it's a dating sim with no 18+ content.
>>724295252>Why would they?see>>724295080>>724295135Shit is already banned.Doesn't take much more to to just outright ban its allowance.>he is so fucking retarded he ACTUALLY thinks the whore org did jack fucking shit to influence visaYou really are under 50IQ anon.Holy fuck.No.It was a mere excuse for visa to do what they always wanted. no one at visa actually fucking cared about that org or their complaints, they are useful idiots.Jesus Christ.You faggots need to seriously just shut the Hell up and listen to those above your level, you aren't fit to argue politics.>>724295280>By 2026 all the antiwhite will be washed awayfix'd but unlikely.If you want that to be the case start pressure Trump and other repubs to put in bills or laws that outright ban antiwhiteism.Not all this cucked arse abstraction shit.Are you people EVER going to honestly wake up and see reality?
>>724284826>the same shitty DRMWhat?
>>724295308No, I've been talking about games with patches this entire time.
>Steam is a monopolySo what should be done about it? Do you want government intervention on the games industry? When they get involved they'd have Valve remove every ecchi game ever released on Steam too.
>>724295391So you're saying they shouldn't make the game they want to make, fiction should be censored just in case a third party doesn't like it?You're mentally ill.
haha gee wouldn't it be smart if epic tried to insert themselves into this new void the market has? oh wait they feel the same? okay never mind
>>724295516>Steam is a monopoly>So what should be done about it?That's the beautiful part: can't do shit. As bad as Valve is, there are WAY bigger fish to fry before you even think about regulating them. Microsoft, for one, who are already violating multiple agreements around their first anti-monopoly case in the 90s.
>>724295391>just compromise your artistic vision from the get go bruh>just further allow yourself to be shackled by those who hate you and the artistic process>no worries!Absolutely fucking grim.You faggots are beyond vermin now.Hollywood and netflix puts out absolutely abhorrent trash.Any art gallery does too.Kill yourself for wanting video games to be compromised from the onset.You gutter dwelling shit heap
>>724295501>>Shit is already banned.No it isn't. The only thing you're not allowed to do is advertise or link to it om steam. You have no clue what you're actually talking about, do you. You're just impotently floundering around in this thread making shit up as you go concern trolling.
>>724295516No government is going to got to bat for this lmaoIts why these bans almost always go uncontested
>>724295516>So what should be done about it?Buy the game on DLSite and send Valve and Gabe emails about why you're not doing business on their platform. That's all you can do. >The gubbamint kek, name the government who does monopoly busting anymore. hint: there isn't one. Even the EU is sucking Google's toes for things it castigated Microsoft for. in an ideal world we wouldn't have to ask ourselves this question because the very idea that Valve could come under government scrutiny through a strong SEC regulatory body would be enough to make them behave. Yknow, in an ideal world where we don't have shit-eaters as politicians.
>>724295594GOG is also the same (wouldn't accept uncensored Tokyo Clanpool), and so is the Microsoft Store (banned Gal Gun). Complaining about Steam being a monopoly is pointless because all the other major storefront players wouldn't be taking this stuff either. A Japanese player would be a big maybe, but they're too technologically regressed in the PC space to open their own global PC storefront.
>>724295621>>724295538Both of you are retards and not even remotely trying to argue in good faith.
>>724295735GOG literally stopped letting Kagura release games on their store. They completely buckled and pivoted back to good old games shit.https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_just_for_our_information_you_lost_money/post4
>>724295764>good faithYou are literally arguing for censorship of the creative vision and the end of freedom of thought, because someone else might get offended by your creation.
>>724295516It's an issue but one that really isn't 'solvable' by outside forces.Valve is by no means perfect, but they could be far far worse given their titanic position.A government break up would be pretty bad in all likelihood as they'd certain put some antiwhite lapdog in charge of the new disassembled companies.I rather consumers and devs put pressure on valve to kill all their antiwhite and antijapanese policies.Make the approval guidelines clear to understand and strick so that all devs know what is and isn't okay. That all approvers must follow them and not personal biases
>>724295867No, I'm literally not, and at best you are illiterate.
>>724295764You are a worthless cum gurgler.Drawing paintings don't face this shit. Pottery. Sculptures. Photography. Books, etc.Why the fuck should video games be eroded in such a way?Why are you intent in being a corpoate scum fuck defender?
>>724295867>>724295391That post is basically just saying take into account making a patch for steam during development. A patch is not censorship, it's a way to avoid censorship.
>>724295906You LITERALLY fucking said that devs should consider the censorship they'll face before theyy design and create a game.Yes.You fucking are.If certain ideas are untennable to even be made, experienced, and countered you are defacto limiting how much artistic expression a medium can hold.You can't even grasp your own fucking argument. God damn holy shit.Who is paying you to be this terrible?
>>724295967Shut the fuck up, concern troll.
I really, really want to play this and enjoy the gameplay.
>>724296060No, I literally didn't. See>>724296038
>>724295906That's literally what you're saying, though. >>724296038The game came out 5 years ago, this is literally just a port. You expect them to just cut out a character who appears in half the other routes just in case Steam gets upset about it that week? Hell, your sister who you can't romance also looks pretty young, so they should cut her out as well?You're talking about more work than it took to port the game and translate it for the sake of what is still only a POSSIBLE Steam release, they could still take offense at the fact all the girls are in school even if you remove the younger ones.Fundamentally, the game can't release on Steam, the fact it got as far as it did was already pushing it.
>>724285498>What is their response? Would they just cut off communication?ghosting or the typical corpo>steam evaluates each game on an individual basis, it's steam policy to not re-evaluate any previously rejected gamesresponse
>>724296196The whole chain has been about patches and patches being a means of avoiding censorship or getting banned. That post is pretty damn clear about the devs making the game they want to make, not self-censoring.
>>724296140that what we call 'moving the goal post' anon.Silence.>>724296082what a riveting non reply.consider taking a long walk off a short pier.
>>724296334>patches being a means of avoiding censorship or getting banned.A few games getting away with it before Visa started turning the thumbscrews does not mean the process is foolproof. Again, this is a game where you date schoolgirls. It goes against most of Visa's morality policing guidelines, and those are applied directly to Steam.
>>724296196>>The game came out 5 years ago, this is literally just a port. You expect them to just cut out a character who appears in half the other routes just in case Steam gets upset about it that week? Hell, your sister who you can't romance also looks pretty young, so they should cut her out as well?If they don't want to risk getting denied, make a patch, yes. Or they can play valve's review roulette.Or are you suggesting consoles can demand specific ports, but making a patch for steam is too much work despite the massive sales potential?
>>724284826blame Visa and Mastercard
>>724296490>again, this is a game where you date schoolgirlsSchoolgirls shouldn't ever date?Is there a law that makes it illegal?
"Mary" is just the name the MasterCard and Visa council uses if they chose to ban a game on Steam. Valve can do nothing about it.
>>724296490>A few gamesTons of games, including some of the most degenerate dlsite has to offer. You want to vastly improve your chances, make a patch, play it safe. Don't just send off loli ass and pikachu face when it gets shot down. If you really care, don't risk the review gamble.
>>724296506>If they don't want to risk getting denied, make a patch, yes.The entire game breaks Visa's cardinal rules. Unless you expect them to make a patch that removes every girl and just has you wander around an empty school running into mysterious silhouettes with no dialogue, the game had a 90% chance of getting banned out of the gate.>Or are you suggesting consoles can demand specific ports,Console ethics committees aren't a "one and done" thing like Steam is. They demand changes instead of just going "no".>>724296621Payment processors have deemed school uniforms to be evil, so you're not allowed them in your games anymore.
>>724296783>Payment processors have deemed school uniforms to be evil, so you're not allowed them in your games anymore.Seems kinda arbitrary doesn't it?
>>724296756Again, you're talking about a pre payment processor meltdown world because you're retarded. That world no longer exists, which is why DLsite blocks you from even seeing titles with schoolgirls in them if you're not in Japan.
>>724296783>The entire game breaks Visa's cardinal rules. Unless you expect them to make a patch that removes every girl and just has you wander around an empty school running into mysterious silhouettes with no dialogue,Valve doesn't care if you completely gut the game to be barely functional. There's a number of hentai games that do that. If black panda can get games on to steam, this game most certainly could have.
>>724294564>Sony has been since mid ps4 if not earlierThe consoles have always been censoring things from the start and now it's slowly becoming most of these online PC stores. You could try to compare some things on vndb.org like what was changed like the nudes in the PC version of Baldr Force compared to the PS2 and Dreamcast versions, none of which were released in USA.https://vndb.org/v221
>>724295372Google (and Microsoft before them, et al) doesn't get bitch slapped for market dominance, they get antitrust strikes for anticompetitive practices. Valve, by no definition of the term, is a monopoly, since they're not the only option, and they're not violating antitrust laws.
>>724296860No, I'm talking past payment processor bullshit. Why do you sound demoralizing? Dlsite started hiding their games well before valve got hit. But you know who still fucking advertises games dlsite won't even show me, right on their front page? Steam.
>>724296984In a just world, Valve would've been dismantled and Gaben beaten to death in the streets for promoting gambling to children. Politicians are all just as comically evil though, so nothing will ever happen.
And we're back to square one where no one is willing to defend this game because muh diddy ahh epstein blud shit.
>>724285498>that's it, I'm gonna call out gabe newell on twitter for this>everybody laughs at the pedo trying to put a loli porn game on steamno, really, what the fuck do you think's going to happen? you think someone can personal army a fucking pedo game?
>>724297116it's so fucking dumb and gay.>>724296963Oh i'm aware of that.I'm just saying sony has been intentionally trying to ruin the Japanese game market with antijapanese ideology since the mid ps4 at the latest.
>>724297067>free drops in free games>can't add more money to steam without a cc>muh chillinsParents need to parent or they shouldn't have had kids to begin with.
>>724285109Dating "sims" are not games.
>>724286740>. Not to mention they're delisting the OG LoveR Kiss on Switch after this releases, and they have no reason to do that if they know the new version is censored.Delisting is standard practice for remasters. It's to disincentivize buying the previous version, nothing to do with whether it's censored or not.
>>724297116nobody should be defending the game. it shouldn't be on steam. none of them should be on steam. there should be a seperate storefront that is just "steam, but lewd games".
>>724297116Fucking told you retards these people were snakes.All they cared about was lgbbq nonsense.
>>724297050>pastMeant to say post, but whatever.
>>724296910Non porn games shouldn't have to use patches, that's what that anon and everyone else is saying and I agree because using a patch like that just makes the game seem like a porn game which gets treated like >>724297190
>>724295505ソフト電池 runs on your pc 24/7 and is actual malware
>>724297116Defending this game at this point is pointless unless you can somehow come up with enough numbers to get valve to do a reversal. What these threads need to do is push working solutions so the japanese start catching on so future games don't suffer the same fate.
>>724297458Shouldn't have to, I agree, but they do, because they're lewding the lolis and stores are wary of selling that. We can sit here and argue that it's super unfair, but that's not going to change anything.
>>724297513Thay soulution being to lean into the stigma so that eventually all JP games with anything slightly questionable need to be barebones and use off site patches. Enjoy having to the next Trails Of game with an off site patch and being called a pedo for it.
>>724297602It doesn't matter what they're lewding, the game already had a rating that should be enough.
>>724297645The retards who would call you a pedo would do so anyway and wouldn't even know the patch existed. Also, can we not make strawmen. We all know what's really under the crosshairs and it's not jrpgs, it's the full blown ecchi. But yeah, if you want consistent upskirts without black shadows back in your jrpgs, a patch would be a good way to do it. Or just start railing against consoles more because I doubt valve cares about something that tame and out of focus
>>724284406I highly doubt any Jap incel would pose a threat to the Gaben or his family. Gabe would likely wack that dirty little jap back to Asahi.Maybe if they branched out and made more games besides "high school molestation simulator" they'd be in a better position in life.
>>724297740Again, I agree, but it's not fair, and you have to work with that because simply saying it's not fair doesn't do anything. Valve is already on the payment processor shitlist for selling perfectly legal games. Until far bigger forces stop being cunts, saying valve is being unfair just isn't effective.
>>724297789Edens Zero didn't have voids on PC/PS5/or Xbox Series, and that's only from 3 months ago.That game was basically an ecchi game without actually showing that it is one on the surface. Even tons of extremely lewd outfits you can put the party loli in, though she's a robot, I'm not sure if that helps in these content regulation negotiations.
>>724284406Too hot for Steam
>>724297789>but yeaAnd you're trying to say jrpgs aren't in the crosshairs. That's why they do that shit in the first place and it will not be enough if things keep going like they are. It's not a strawman, it's a very possible future and one likely to happen if people keep capitulating to this shit.
>>724297942She is 11 years old.
>>724286798>>724286572JASTUSA exists you retards
>>724297875As if the console publishers aren't? Why only Valve?
>>724288586God i want to go back in time and kill all SJWs before they grow up
>>724297992She's so ready...
>>724297907It's just wildly inconsistent, that's part of the problem. Some games get hit, others don't. Some devs preemptively censor themselves, others are orderd to, and others still slip through unscathed.>>724297972That kind of censorship is almost entirely consoles. I am not aware of any steam shenanigans on that front. Valve isn't going to refuse a full blown game where ecchi isn't the focus just because you can tilt the camera up a character's skirt. At worst they might ask for a black shadow, but again, I know of no cases where they've done that. And if they ever do, the dev can just make a patch.
>>724298159How many costumes are there in the game ? I never seen this before
>>724298193They released DLC for like 4 years.
>>724284406But /v/ told me Steam was the saviour of eroges...
>>724284406I have no idea what this is.
>>724298179>Valve isn't going toPeople said that about them allowing adult games.
>>724298041Because consoles are entirely a lost cause where the dev and user have absolutely no control. It's entirely locked down by one corporation that can impose whatever restrictions or censorship they want with no recourse.Valve might own steam, but they do not own pc and through pc you have the freedom and control to do or get whatever you want.
>>724298179Yeah its incosistent, but they advertising this game as if they walked through airport security with fully equipped weapon arsenal on their backpacks. They should hide it at least, maybe theres a chance they get past Mary's eyes
>>724298378Okay so why aren't the payment processors an issue for them but it is for Valve? Why is the gamw releasing on Switch? Shouldn't they be worried about the PPs too?
>>724298462nta but we all know its gonna be censored on switch. I just know it
>>724298462*game
>>724298159This is so fucking ugly kek.But this should NOT have been banned just because I don't like it
>>724298462Because consoles are FAR tamer. They're not accepting games with incestuous loli rape like valve is. It's why console censorship is cowardly and just done to protect their image because what they're censoring compared to what valve typically wants a patch for is on a whole other level.
>>724286740>>724286798>already claiming the game is censored in Japan before it even releasedI'm also surprised to see the same CHfag still trying to pull the blame on Nintendo for Clanpool when it was proven long ago to done on purpose (for outrage and sympathy points) by the asian company in charge of the PC & Switch ports.>>No, Nintendo is never releasing this in the westLikely because no rating board is gonna allow the presence of the loli character, much like Shine Post from Konami is a ecomony management with idolshit, with all heroines being underage.>>724298378>>Valve might own steam, but they do not own pc and through pc you have the freedom and control to do or get whatever you want.>"fuck Japanese culture, they should pander to my globohomo PC cult"lollmao even
>>724298593>tamerThis game ia on Switch and ia Re-releasing on it. How is it tame enough for Nintendo but not Valve?
>>724298690*is
She's so fucking sexy bros...
>>724298462What Nintendo censors is shit like kissing and crazy/fat jokes. Valve will still, even after being direct attacked by payment processors, sell you games where you can rape a woman, knock her up, rape your daughter, and then eat them.
>>724298807See >>724298690
>>724298807You sound like a dangerous schizoAnd it's been a known fact that getting your Japanese games in the West was always a gamble, most often with censored shit you were probably not remotely aware.
Just give Payment Processors the option to retract the option of using them on a PER GAME basis.>wait, I can not use my credit card or PayPal to buy Pantsu Quest 3000?>Who cares! I will just buy the game using Steam credit. Or Steam gift cards!They CAN NOT have a problem with this.
>>724288397>>724288586Bullet Girls 1 and 2 are good games. It's sad that Phantasia became musou slop.
>>7242899162d
>>724298690Because they banned it from the west and will likely censor it in the east.Unlike nintendo, valve doesn't have a problem with porn. They'll accept some of the most degenerate filth. They just have a problem with lewding lolis, because the west has a problem with lewding lolis. Hence why Nintendo banned it in the west too.
>>724298875They do have a problem with that. They want nothing "risky" to exist in any form on stores where they are used, even if you can't use their service for it.
>>724298875You're retarded. The whole point is control.
Just post mail your money to Steam HQ to buy video games and remove Payment Processors. Simple
>>724298751LITERALLY asking for it.
>>724298865No. Everything I said was factual. You[re free to look up Mad Island on Steam if you want.
>>724298751>>724298241>>7242981593d Model Rip when ?
>>724299013>>and will likely censor it in the east.>>likelyAgain, try to resist yourself from making this claim before the game actually comes out, or otherwise that's gonna be another loss for your narrative>Unlike nintendo, valve doesn't have a problem with porn.Except Valve has bigger problems with tamer stuff than Nintendo does.
>>724299013Is the original version banned? And why are there patchless games on Steam that let you lewd lolis? They didn't care before they started allowing adult gamea so they shouldn't be holding non adult games to the same standards of adult games.
>>724299178I'll resist when Nintendo resists setting those precedences. But I'm not here to argue with a Nintendo fanboy, I know that's an utterly lost cause.
>>724299275>>But I'm not here to argue with a Nintendo fanboyI know this is /v/ and anyone who isn't actively lynching on Nintendo like a rabid dog is a "fanboy" nowadays.But I'm actually accusing you of being a schizophrenic moron who spreads fake information in order to potentially harm any discussion of game censorship in the future
>>724298751>>724298241>>724298159Really weird since there are Vita version of the game and she appears older there
>>724299361That's a different game, retard.
>>724299263>And why are there patchless games on Steam that let you lewd lolis?I'm not aware of any, bit I wouldn't doubt it. Valve employees have a ton of autonomy, it's why their review process is inconsistent. Different employees have different interpretations of the rules or are more helpful and lenient than others. It's why people shit on 'mary' as being one of the reoccurring bad ones who'll shut down a non-offending vn with no option to work things out.
>>724284406is this a vita port?
>>724299470What exactly is stopping someone from working at valve and actually fixing these draconian systems that allow these mini tyrants to randomly appear? Is it impossible to join valve and work your way up? How the fuck did Mary get in?
>>724299178>Except Valve has bigger problems with tamer stuff than Nintendo does.Nope.
>>724299667I mean be my guest. Go get hired.There's actually one steam dev at Valve that all the hgame publishers like. He's so stupidly libertarian that he just accepts everything and he even helps out games that need to do the offsite patch shit.Which is why there's such a disparity between certain games that get accepted vs Mary's rejections
>>724299409Oh Nice. In this game shes a JC instead of JS. Is she the Mascot of the series or what ?
>>724299667It is incredibly difficult to get into valve. They are super tight-knit and the pay is insane. Even if you did, employees have so much autonomy you'd have to climb real high up to have the power to oust ones you don't like.
>>724299739It's already been proven that qureate is badly managed considering their past experiences with their game releases. Funny how they've been screwing up since 2021 or 2022.
>>724299898Nah, they just reused her.
>>724299667"Mary" likely came from Campo Santo, which Valve acquired in 2018. The same year Valve started doing "content reviews" and it started becoming more difficult to get ecchi on Steam.
Act instead of Complaining. Actions speak louder than wordsRefuse to use Credit Card and PaypalUse CASHBuy from JASTUSA / GOG / EGS instead of SteamACT NIGGER, ACT
>>724299997>The same year Valve started doing "content reviews" and it started becoming more difficult to get ecchi on Steam.That was the same year the Rape Day controversy happenedWhich was when Valve realized payment processors were breathing down their necks
>>724300072You'd need like 15 million of Steam's 40 million CCUs to act, to get anything done. These ecchi games barely sell 100k. Nobody is coming to save them.
>>724300072>Use CASHOkay how?>Buy from JASTUSA / GOG / EGSAll just as cucked as Steam and will instantly fold to payment processors.
>>724300125You handed your Paper money / Coin money into the cash register. Also on all 3 JastUSA is the least cucked of them all
>>724300072People just need to show up wherever the game lands on pc, be that steam or anywhere else. Valve is not the problem, the powers that be are, and they can go after anything. They have everyone by the balls. It's why patches give plausible deniability and don't put a target on the store.
>>724299470Senren Kagura, a game that had no issues because it was before they allowed adulr games. Today they would likely block them over Mirai and the other loli that transforms into a titty monster.It shouldn't matter who reviews these games, non adult gamea shouldn't be treated like adult games and it sets a bad precedent when they are.
>Literal Sex Island>TWO Loli Heroine (One of them is Canon True Ending)>Its on Steam and They release a new DLC this monthHow did they do it ?
>>724300464Literally just gut the game.It's that simple.
>>724300401>non adult gamea shouldn't be treated like adult games and it sets a bad precedent when they are.I agree, but they are being treated that way because loli is that hot of a button. So there needs to be working solutions, like a patch, because a tiny amount of otaku just saying it's not fair isn't going to get very far with a government or payment processor.
>>724288823What does Eastasiasoft have to do with Key or Idea Factory? Censorship apologist.
>>724298627Name one instance of the ESRB refusing to rate a game because of lolisho.
>>724300563He's a Nintendo apologist. Anyone else censors and he'll happily rip them apart
>>724284406>causing to the Japanese game industry>Japanese game industry is low-quality coomshit for ironic weebsKindly kts thyself. You don't play video games, if you don't know how many Japanese games are released every day on Steam without problem. Most of them not of the type you, as a sex-obsessed normalnigger, prefer.Coomgers get the rope.
>>724300708Yeah tons of Jap games have sold a fuckton on SteamIssue is ecchi games are always getting cucked
11 Year old
>>724299914Ok and? The game is still stupidly censored on Switch and not releasing in the west. Thereby cutting out quite a bit of potential income.
>>724300741It's baffling to me that all the hentai games got publishers that know how to navigate steam, but way tamer games with actual budgets are in the dark and at greater risk.
>>724284406Realistically what other platform ? Reminder this game has literal JS wearing microbikinis and they planning to not cut anything on the game.GOG a possibility, but they sometimes randomly ban any ecchi games (although less likely compared to Steam)EGS ?? Tim hates obscure Anime games. ESPECIALLY Ecchi onesJASTUSA ?? Most likely but no one know that platform existsDLSITE ?? Definitely but its locked to Japan Only nowadays its defeat the purpose of English translation
>>724295735>>724295828GOG also bent the knee to China on Devotion
>>724300563>>724300620>>censorship apologist>>He's a Nintendo apologistYou guys are not exactly subtle with your grudge towards a certain game company, and also to make game censorship discussions look like more and more deranged to anyone else. There were cases that you claimed to be Nintendo Japan's doing, only to be proven wrong multiple times, and that new Lover Kiss re-release looks like to be another instance of getting wrong because you didn't do your research enough or were simply impatient.
>>724300857Hentai games quickly figured out the rules of engagement and adapted super quick because they saw the bloodbath due to Steam's esoteric policies.Ecchi games run under the assumption that they're fine, especially ones that released on vita or consoles before, because they think Valve plays by the same rules they had to deal with back then. What thwy don't realize is that they'll be unfairly grouped up with the adult games so they need to play by those rules as well.It's all fucked. But you can see why there's so many successful hentai publishers in Steam now.
>>724300994All you do is blame everybody but Nintendo no matter how obvious it is that it's Nintendo.
>>724284406man, that's some bullshit, I was actually looking forward to playing this one
>>724301027yeah this is itpair that with the fact that japs live in their own bubble you can see why they get hit more often
>>724301090I already know this was going to get banned given how openly they are advertizing the game
>>724301049>no matter how obvious it is that it's Nintendo.Only if you're schizophrenic with a grudge towards the Japanese game company while ignoring every other context.What was the name of that Japanese indie game that you guys proclaimed as censored by Nintendo again? The one featuring a screenshot of the character selection screen, with one of the girls costumes altered in the West but release fine in Nintendo Japan?
Knock on wood with Nintendo. We still have a month before the game releases.
>>724284406Before I would've been right there saying fuck Valve, but after fucking payment processors randomly descended and threatened to obliterate steam merely because of a handful of whiny bitches in emu land, I can't really blame them for things like this. There's got to be a way for these devs to do this right. If konoha is on steam, LoveR can get on steam.
>>724301315This is the same old valve thoughEven before payment processors theyve been pulling this shit for over half a decade now
>>724301346If the payment processor threat was gone and they were still doing it, I'd agree. I never actually thought that would happen and it kind of recontextualizes things. They could easily be doing things like this in an attempt to prevent what happened, and they still failed and got attacked for being too lenient.
>>724301268It's one of the earliest games getting a dedicated Switch 2 Edition. I hope they don't run into last-minute issues because having the little girl dating simulator available at 4k60fps would be funny.
>>724284406Start doing this and you will get approved on steam.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3276280/Cursed_Armor2/Disgusting hand holding fence shittery is not welcome.
I will never understand these retarded policies. If it was NSFW fair enough in fact I think NSFW games have no place on Steam whether it's anime or not but here they just banned some run of the mill anime shit that used to release on PS3 and Vita back in the day. You could play this game in front of your friends and no one would say a thing yet there are so many games on Steam you wouldn't be caught dead having in your library.Steam is simultaneously a wild west letting all the slop and filth in and yet sometimes blocks normal games. It really devalues its worth as a legitimate storefront.
>>724301346Nah they were just trying to be careful and see what the line is and not to cross it. But now it obviously doesn't matter because they still got targeted in the end.
>>724301346They did it after Rape Day though which was a massive clusterfuck and probably got cc companies on their ass
>>724301592Its really not that hard to getYou either go all in or you dontEcchi games sit in the awkward middle ground that isnt as safe anymore
>>724284406I'm hoping for GOG, but I'm expecting Johren.100% would buy it off GOG, but I'm not going to bother with the Johren installer.
>>724285498Based on the Key to home and DT2 bans, they just ghost you.If you try to mention it in a mail for another, non-lewd game you're aldo publishing they will just ignore you.
>>724284798>The most basic ass vita looking dating sim gets nuked off the platform but somehow black souls slides right in through Steam is such a weird fucking place. Can't even blame the communists anymore since I think they quit.
>>724301346>Even before payment processorsWe've kind of known payment processors were cunts for at least a decade with patreon.
>>724300549It's not just loli at the end of the day and all the site patches do is make people think the gamea are porn. They are not porn and shouldn't be treated like it and validating that treatment by copying the porn games is not the correct move. It will only come back to "us" in the ass.
>>724285498Nips are too passive to get publicly confrontational as a company, especially with a foreign company. And even if they did, they'd only get support from their niche playerbase and everyone else will go, "Pedo".
>>724288759>When are all those Japanese politicians who won their positions off of "freedom of manga/anime/games expression" going to actually do something?What the fuck do you expect them to do against a company that is not even in their country?Steam is also very centralized, everything that matter is done in their HQ in the US.But to answer your question, Japan would need to do another pearl Harbor and actually win the war this time.
>>724301757Not everyone wants to make or play outright porn games. Ecchi games are their own genre and shouldn't be forced to go either way.
>steam already has dogshit (((porn))) """""""""""""""""""games""""""""""""""""""" so we should have even more dogshit (((porn))) """""""""""""""""""games"""""""""""""""""""kek, flawless thinking as always, fags
>>724295005>Valve WILL make it so off-site patches are not allowed one dayLiteraly impossible on an open platform like PC.How the fuck are you going to enforce that?You'd need to turn steam into the most intrusive botnet ever and even then you would still have workaround and said botnet capabilities will be hijacked and abused by any competent pirate.And I'm not even talking about the legal consequences this would trigger all over the world.
>>724297340Why?
>>724302689The game isn't porn
>>724302691By busybodies snitching it to valve.
>>724302691>search the game makers sites >if something ban worthy is found remove the gameIt's not like they have to even respond to the dev after they block them
>>724302871And Patreon already does this. They search anything connected to your account and if it's against their ToS they remove you, even if you don't link to it on your Patreon pages
>>724302871>Put the patch on torrent and/or release it under the pretense of a modDone. You cannot ban a patch on PC because once it's released, ANYONE can rehost it elsewhere.Same shit for modding.
>>724302957Patreon literaly has to obey payment processors.Most modding sites are free.
>>724303604You don't understandLet's say you are making a game and you use Patreon. Now lets say you make a mod that goes against their ToS. Even if you do not link to the mod at all, if they find out about they will remove you from the service. And they actively search for it. So unless you pretend to be a third party, which can be an issue for possible supporters who don't realize it's you, they will find it and revoke you account.
>>724304289>your
>random gooner makes a sex mod for your pegi 3 game>livelyhood stolen
>>724284406>De Facto MonopolyCope retard
>>724303570They could ban the game itself because of the mod if they thought the creator of the mod was the creator of the game trying to get around their rules. Not saying they do it now or will in the future but it's very easy for things to change.
>>724285109I can't get mad at Steam being a monopoly when Japanese devs and publishers have done this to themselves by refusing to release their games anywhere other than Steam for the last 15 years.
>>724304351>make game but remove content >make mod that restores said content under rando name>now people are confused if it's trust worthy or can't find it easily>if you point then in the right direction it becomes easy to link you as dev of the game to the mod
>>724284406>faggots in the comments asking for gog
>>724304589Your DLsite?
>>724295460>and no 18+ contentAnd nothing of value was lost
>>724304696Yes, a very nice site. Now how many games can you name on it that aren't Lollipop Chainsaw or eroge?
>>724297469>disables your whole DRM with a simple python scriptnothing personnel
>>724304696>>724304589Dlsite and other native storefronts got fucked around with by payment processors too though
>>724304589This. Steam isn't a monopoly by point of fact that it's collectively self-imposed by the publishers and developers. They refuse to release on any other platform (such as GoG) because those platforms don't like DRM. So they release on Steam (which is DRM friendly). People who hate on Steam for "being a monopoly" are retards with misdirected ire. They need to redirect their shit towards the greedy publishers who refuse to release their monetized games on other launchers.
>>724304841Have the other platforms tried being better?
>>724288397
>>724304882Opposing DRM is being better.
>>724304841Steam has more market share meaning that you have more reach releasing there Other places have much less
>>724284406they can keep that kusoge
>>724286562They won't because this isn't an LGBT game
>>724304289>which can be an issue for possible supporters who don't realize it's youSupporters are already paying you for the normal game and how the fuck is patreon going to find you? Are they going to hire privates for something that doesn't happen on their servers? You're literaly assuming that patreon will act as an extra-legal entity for the sake of payment processors.
>>724304459Modders have been making content far worse than official stuff for a long fucking time, you're just fearmongering at this point.
>>724306374>assuming They have already done it before
steamie cucks lost
>>724306446Blame the dev for being a greedy fuck who asked for even more money then Also feel free to give examples.
>>724306440>Modders have been making content far worse than official stuff for a long fucking time, you're just fearmongering at this point.There is a difference between a random modder and the dev using mods to circumvent the rules. If they wanted to be real cunts about it they can.
>>724306539And how are they going to guess if something is official or not ?Beyond dev retardation I mean, most mods are effectively impossible to trace unless the dev left his name somewhere in the code.
>>724285109>Even nintendoPress X to doubt. Nintendo forced Platinum to censor Bayonetta's lesbianism and removed the blood from Mortal Kombat back in the day. They are the worst when it comes to censorship. You can't even put women in bikini costumes on nintendo hardware.
>>724306626I don't know anon, how would they ever figure out who made the mod that adds content that was obviously cut from the game
>>724306686Come on now.
>>724306686>Nintendo forced Platinum to censor Bayonetta's lesbianismBased
>>724284858>honeyselect cloneAm pretty sure its a direct successor of Phot Kano
>nobody is going to take your games away
>>724304882We must be better platforms. What Japanese developers put in their games is none of our business.
>>724292568joshi chugakusei (jhs girls) and joshi shogakusei (es girls)
>>724306709Mods like that made by fans exist.See Aselia the Eternal.Those exist even on Switch, see the uncensor mods for censored games too.You massively underestimate what modders can do.
>>724306709Many all ages games (often VN) have mods that restore the lewd content from the R18 versions.It's literaly official content (re)added by fans and it's something that has been done long before steam allowed porn
>>724306686>Nintendo forced Platinum to censor Bayonetta's lesbianismCereza was never a lesbian
>>724304696DLsite now back to japan only. They even remove the english translation program
>>724284406To be honest what's the point of rating system? Adult, mature, etc...To me it feels like legal adult age people in the west can't be responsible for themselves that they need something(?) to decide for them.
>>724300125Dohna Dohna has been on JAST for two years. How long till it folds?
>>724284406Japan needs to arrest Valve staff at next TGS and make them pay for it.
Okay this is utter horseshit that they've been trying to set up for years I know, but we have to start thinking creatively against an enemy that never ceases. Would they possibly be able to initially release a game with gray featureless dummies instead of the characters, keep all of the other assets, and then once it's sold like that, release a patch from their website that replaces said dummies with the real character assets?
>>724308425The actual reasoning for the existence of a rating system is parents being able to determine what's appropriate for their children outside of government involvement and without needing any censorship.
>>724306686>Nintendo forced Platinum to censor Bayonetta's lesbianismI wish it was real.
>>724309127Even if you did something like this and it worked, the result would be that if you decide to have steam distribute your game and pay a 30% cut for the service of them providing a distribution platform, you will also always need to provide your own distribution platform for the same game yourself. There's zero reason why all game developers shouldn't just put up some ecommerce shitware on a web server that eats credit cards and shits out game downloads.
>>724309594But what about the issue credit card services had with this too? As I recall they were also attempting to content control, and even if they were initially pushed back, they're going to try again. We need some decentralized method of exchanging currency that avoids the major banks all together, or at least any of them that are against free trade.
>>724296594No it’s Valve Corporate fault for bending the knee. They have billions of dollars and can sue them. They can offer alternative solutions like they had when offering Steam Gift Cards. They are not a gaming company, they’re only interested in money.
>>724306686Eww yuritranny.
>>724288612If this was Western highschool romance (like a "Life is Strange" game) or had a furry coat of paint, no one at Valve would care. Its entirely the aesthetic that offends them. The rules are vague on purpose so they can react however they feel at that moment in time.
>>724284406Good. Total pedophile death.
>>724300708It's not just effecting eroge. We lost Muramasa to Valve's retarded policy. We lost Chaos;Head too, but since thousands of people were able to brigade for it, we narrowly were allowed to have it on Steam.This isn't normal and it's not about normalfags, ironic weeks or whatever dumb shit you're imagining.
>>724307726>>724307986There is no where they couls have gotten the content if the game isn't a porr and the version submitted does not have it (becauae even if it's just in the files the reviewer would see thw files)That only works for ports, not new games with unreleased contentYou are being dumb by trying to say it's the same shit.
>>724312168>could>port
>>724312038Those are eroge though.
>>724312232So is BG3 then
>>724284406steam really need to fire whoever that retard activist employee is that keeps randomly finding anime games to ban
>>724312232They aren't, idiot. Unless every book that has an intimate moment in it is "erotica" by whatever castrated value you live by.
>>724300954HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THAT BOARD. PEAK SEX
>>724312168Literaly nothing stop a dev/publisher from releasing their game elsewhere.It's even something dev already do on DLsite, some devs releasing butchered versions of their games with no patch and it's modders who need to add back the content.An extreme example is Lorena and the land of ruin, where the dev went as far as nuking the game from DLsite to try to stop people from modding the lewd back.It didn't work.
>>724312232Chaos Head has no porn version, the full game is available on switch even.
>>724312232Chaos;Head has no porn, retarded nigger faggot
>Sex will be completely illegal in your lifetime
>>724313423Amazing. Normals are going to kys by millions, since there is no other thing they care about.
>>724295828but there's been like a dozen Shiravune (yuck) games since then
Japanese politicians and Famtisu are reporting on this. It's definitely a bigger ban than usual, too bad Japan will shrug it off as another shouganai thing.
>>724315927>Japanese politicians and Famtisu are reporting on thisAre they?
>>724315927They need to get their shit together and complain as loudly as possible now, right when valve is trying to impose themselves in the country.It's literaly the best time for them to force valve to stop their bullshit.
>>724315927I hope vtuber jump on that train too.
>>724315927Japanese politicians need to push Japanese judge to put an arrest warrant for every single Valve staff, have them be put in prison and beaten up by the police over their blatant racism against Japanese games. Gabe needs to be extradited to Japan and put in prison there.
>>724317491It'd be funny if Gaben says fuck it and sells Steam to the japanese.
>>724317491Gabe pretty much stopped working.He's basically most of the time in his yacht playing dota.
>>724285109I dunno, I feel like it's a problem of plausible deniability for Valve at this point. Sure, before it was way harder to get a smut game on steam, but nowadays, as long as you pretend your game isn't actually a highscool rape simulator or something, you have high chances of getting it through (hosting a patch outside steam). But even then, there's still some power-hungry mods or whatever that could arbitrarily choose to ban your game, and you're fucked. But things are still miles better than they used to be, in terms of games available in western markets (except dlsite lol)
>>724317597Actually a bad idea, ALL porn games would be forced to retroactively put mosaics on genitals because if how that accursed law work.
>>724317636They should sink his yatch if it comes close from Japan, catch him and make him pay.
>>724317784Yeah but they'd fire Mary who has a vendetta against the japanese lol
>>724317843She should not be fired, she should be arrested.
>>724313423Good. I believe sex between married couples is wrong, and producing children should have the child removed and the couple massively fined
>>724319083oh just like in Freedom Wars, cool game
>>724316885Yeshttps://x.com/famitsu/status/1982734104669081725https://x.com/zkurishi/status/1982761847993557217
>>724287710
>>724320032>The common point between the two works is the appearance of girl (or girl-like) characters
>>724320032Man they always cover these bans
>>724287710>Gacha games are tame compared to what was happening on the Vita.Are you sure about that?
>>724320032Yes but when will Japanese politicians sue Valve? Valve needs to learn to fear the samurai.
>>724320240My favorite genre.
If you pay the $100 to publish on Steam. And they ban your game. Do they refund your $100?
>>724315927And what will they do? Threaten to ban Steam?When outside of these smaller ecchi games, Steam has benefitted a disproportionately way larger amount of other jap devs releasing on it?
>>724320862Someone said no earlier in the thread.
>>724320862They only gave the devs who had their already released games wiped in the Collective Shout frenzy one additional free credit.There aren't any refunds for a rejection and they even tempt you to try again and get lucky on reviewer roulette.
why would i care if it's not on steam? i'm going to pirate it. imagine the type of person who has games like this on his steam account without any shame
>>724322320>Feeling shame because a videogameWhat a weak faggot
>>724321070Arrest Valve staff as they join TGS like Macron arrested Signal owner when he came to France. Put them in jail, hopefully have them beaten up by the police to make they explain why they censor lawful Japanese games. Fuck ethics, Japan needs to be strong and make Valve pay.
>>724291415LoveR's Kiss, as submitted to Steam, has far more content for a reviewer to ban it with then that does as it was submitted to Steam.Of course that has an off Steam patch, but that is irrelevant to the Valve review team, they review what they are given in the Steam build.
>>724322320You cannot pirate games like this if they stop being made because they do not turn a profit, because they are censored or deplatformed.
>>724296783>The entire game breaks Visa's cardinal rules. Unless you expect them to make a patch that removes every girl and just has you wander around an empty school running into mysterious silhouettes with no dialogue, the game had a 90% chance of getting banned out of the gate.Nukitashi's Steam build is 20 minutes long, with 99% of the game in a patch. Shiravune just announced they sold 100k copies of it.
Every few months we have this same song and dance with some other platform.Steam isn't better.Sony isn't better.Nintendo isn't better.Xbox doesn't matter.Stop defending multibillionaire companies. They are not your friends and sooner or later all of them will unanimously ban everything not approved by the mainstream. No, the pendulum will not swing back in 2 weeks.
Why isn't isn't Gematsu reporting on this despite previously having reported on the game itself?
>>724300464It's not complicated, Valve reviews just what you give them to review. It doesn't matter what your game has as long as you don't put the content in front of a Valve reviewer. If OniGyu can get onto Steam by being sanitized enough, anything can.,
>>724323249Because the owner has a vendetta against Dragami Games.
>>724317667Once a title cuts everything, it seems that a reviewer can still be a pain in the ass, but it generally doesn't let them perma-ban it. For example, a reviewer took months to get back to Aoi Tori, then failed the build for being "incomplete" because the Steam build had stuff like "introductory chapter" that implied there is more content somewhere, but this wasn't a perma-ban because it wasn't a rejection for content valve didn't like.
>>724294680How did Blue Archive slip past Mary though?Can't I bribe that one based approver to let my game through?
>>724324128Nexon is huge.
>>724294680OP isn't even ecchi is it? Or does the touching stuff get quite lewd?
>>724294770You can't use this meme on JC shit.
>>724321070Outside of a focused on Steam approach, Japan could certainly implement regulations governing payment processors selling products domestically, and there is some potential political will there (Visa for example fucked up last year when they were attempting to drop an otaku dating website, before backtracking). That said, aside from the bans over the Summer, Valve's actions seem to be independent of payment processor concerns.
>>724324128A Blue Archive ban would have been a repeat of Chaos;Head, where the response to a rejection would have been sufficient to draw enough backlash that Valve would have likely been forced to reverse such a decision.
>>724324390>>724321070And this is why Jap politicians need to sue valve. Make them pay daily 1m yen fee everyday until they unban lawful games like OP.
>>724324213Valve's in practice standards for ecchi content in a school setting by small publishers is very restrictive, any comparable game would have a high likelihood of getting banned without putting content in an off Steam patch.
>>724324648It's really stupid since they're not porn. Valve should had kept these rules for porn games only.
>>724322736It was Telegram, not Signal.And Macron was in the wrong here.
>>724323249Gematsu is run by a snoyfag and he quickly stopped reporting on censorship when he realized that it was making snoy less popular.
>>724317491>>724322736>valve staff>valve staffShut the fuck up Mary.
>>724325339Mary should be arrested and hanged by the Japanese police. No court order, just executed.
>>724325607>hangedbanged*>executedimpregnated*>Japanese policeme* if she's cute(You)* if she's not
>>724325813Ok that's actually based. Sadly it won't happen.
Welp that sucks, neither Nintendo nor Steam are good options but it is not like there are any options left, I guess at the very least Nintendo is still allowing some fanservice games on the JP side, for now ofc, at this point it seems like we should be thankful for the crumbles that barely manage to get past their policies and be happy with it because it will only get worse.
>>724326018Nintendo has generally censored games harder even on JP side, LoveR is probably getting banned or censored on Switch too.
>>724324916It is stupid, but in practice Valve's ban line is far more restrictive then porn, which is why ecchi titles that submit a build to Valve without a patch get banned at a much higher rate then actual porn games which cut out everything for the Steam build. If for a small developer both sex and underwear (based on character appearance) can get a title banned by Valve, the porn developers who cut out sex and underwear will get onto the platform will get onto Steam without issue while the developers who don't have sex but have underwear will get banned when they submit a Steam build with underwear.
>>724324648Muh school setting was always a bullshit excuse, Persona has both a school setting and sexual themes and we all know that valve would never ban them.
>>724326301>I have this game where high schoolers date and build relationships.>Disgusting! Who would want such a thing! BANNED IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY>I have this game where you keep your 10 year old daughter locked up in a closet and rape her every day.>Well, okay, as long as it has guns as well.Some of these standards are pretty bullshit.
Why do we still have these rating boards when absolutely no one respects them any more? They've failed to do the one thing they were supposed to do, and now they're just hogging up resources and dev time. You may as well just go back to the 90s where every console maker had their own internal rating system like SEGA.
>>724326608The lesson Valve learned from Chaos;Head is to not ban anything that would get mainstream English press attention. So yeah, anything sufficiently large isn't getting banned.
>>724326791>Why do we still have these rating boards when absolutely no one respects them any more?That's a good question...
>arrestedWhat Valve is doing is complete and utter bullshit. And could genuinely warrant regulations or to even have the platform banned in repercussion. But nothing they've done have been illegal. You'd have to be insane to think it warrants jail time.
>>724301592Lewding the loli. It's that easy to understand. Valve is more comfortable with full on porn than sexualized depictions of a minor. And it's not even about Valve really, Valve is very libertarian, this is just how the gay higher powers have deemed things in the west. Fiction hurts feefees.
>>724326791>>724327624If they do, the power to approve or deny games will still remain but in the hands of the console makers, in which results to fucking nothing.Worse of all is that they might get bribed to alter the ratings or even forcefully deny releases.
>>724326791Most of the titles that are blocked are smaller titles, with the largest being Neptunia on Nintendo. The ratings boards are still critical for the industry for most titles. In the US even if voluntary and independent from the law, the ESRB is effectively used to distinguish a title as "fine to sell everywhere" with an ESRB-M 17+ rating or "potentially legally harmful to minors" and all the legal headaches that would come with that an ESRB-AO 18+ rating could potentially entail.
>>724302108As far as anyone beyond this niche is concerned games like this are worse than porn. And that's not going to change with any verbal argument. Unless you and a bunch of like-minded buddies want to infiltrate governments and payment processors, patches are the only consistent solution without any sacrifice.
you don't watch porn at the fucking AMC theatersthere are cordoned off degenerate zones of the world for degenerate things, sex shops with no windows or hidden away massage parlors... these things don't need to exist out in the open and nobody else wants them tostop gooning away all your fucking logic and reason, the hill you're dying on is one of moral degeneration that leads to societal collapse same as the LGBTQ slippery slope
>>724328541>SOCIETY WILL COLLAPSE IF SOME NEET PLAYS TEEN-RATED NEPTUNIA IN HIS ROOMPiss off you disingenuous twat.
>>724284406Hope it comes to GOG
>>724328541Imagine being owned by jews and still insisting that you control other people's coping mechanisms
>>724327815Who cares, they deserve it at this point. I would cheer for it. Especially this Gabe fat fuck./
>>724304882Yes gog galaxy is better because it doesnt have trading cards and assorted faggotry.
>>724328541retard steam has been letting porn games to be sold there for like 5 years nowand this is not even a porn game you troglodyte>>724329132its a possibility but tokyo clanpool did get censored on gog
>>724306686You're 100% right about Nintendo, but you gave bad reasons. Valve is way, way more lenient than Nintendo is or ever will be, and it's baffling to me how people can think otherwise at any point. Only very recently has valve denied a few games nintendo has accepted, but nintendo still bans those games in the west and censor them in the east, whereas valve accepts a shitload of games, tons of them japanese, that nintendo would never, ever touch and we have more direct examples of nintendo banning and censoring compared to valve.People just need to give up on consoles already if they care about this issue at all. They are locked down, heavily policed platforms where the user has no control or recourse that are not conducive to devs freely making the games they want to make.
>>724328541You're a coward who would never do the same for islam despite being a real book talking about real children.
>>724309594If it can work for loli sister fucking simulators that go on to sell gangbuster on steam, it can work for these.
>>724329278Gabe isn't the target you retard he doesn't even do anything at valve anymore.Target people who still actually work at valve and make these horrible choices if you're gonna hate.Attacking an old fat man would only hurt our cause here
>>724329315>its a possibility but tokyo clanpool did get censored on gogTo be fair, there's not really anything to censor. Tokyo Clanpool had a touching minigame, LoveR is just taking photos. So that seems doubtful unless GOG ends up just removing some outfits or photo locations entirely.
>>724310416No. They can't. Valve would get absolutely fucked. As it stands, visa and mastercard are well within their rights to refuse service and they are behemoths. It would be a massive, insanely risky lawsuit that would need far more than valve involved, and on the behalf of content that's not exactly looked favorably upon or is even becoming dubiously illegal in red states.Blame visa and mastercard. If they care so much abut their image, like they claim to, then shit on that image, not the victim.
>>724329142>>724329627>called islamic and jewish for a post
>Epic hates these kinds of games>Gaben is a piece of shit who just wants to build boats>GOG bent the knee>DLsite is effectively closed to foreigners>The only option is to pirate which I'd rather not do but will if I mustThis fucking sucks.
>>724330632Bruh, look at this mormon redneck.
>>724330646Is there a way to just send the money directly to the devs? I'd rather pirate it and do that.
>>724330632Because your priorities are fucked, there MUCH bigger fish and yet you seethe and attack things that would have next to no impact to the state of society.
AHEM
>>724330646If they follow Visual Arts it probably pops up on Jast, which just added Holy Undead after its Steam ban. That obviously isn't making up for the lost sales, but is a reasonably accessible platform, at least for the time being.
>>724284406BASED BASED BASEDFUCK STEAMFUCK PAYMENT PROCESSORSAND MOST IMPORTANT ABOVE ALLFUCK JANNIES!!!!
>>724330792Extremely antisemitic post. Be a better man.
>>724326791The whole point of those is to sell things to adults. Cry at the soccer moms who want anything marked by these scrubbed off the face of Earth but have no qualms when the convenience store or the fancy restaurant sells alcohol with children present.
>>724323340This. The japanese need to learn. I'd have more sympathy if a handful of harpies hadn't just called down payment processors to threaten wiping valve off the map. Just make a patch.And those twitter posts are over there saying it's on the switch as if nintendo didn't ban it in the west too and hasn't been censoring things even in the east. They are not helping, they are just being stubborn.
>>724324128If even apple and android accepts it, people would have pointed that out and made valve look bad. It was the same deal with chaos;head. More than anything else, it was even nintendo accepting it in the west that made valve reconsider.
>>724331434To clarify, the japanese should be attacking this issue, but they need to focus entirely on the actual enemies and in the meantime be suggesting actual solutions, like patches, that still allow these games to flourish and sell boatloads on steam.
>>724331004Outdated. It's already sold 1 MILLION way back in January.This, and other hentai games, are what the Japanese need to learn from on how to do it. If this game can get onto Steam, any of their games can.
So which gooner store will this get released on and which hoops do i have to jump to give them money?
>>724326791PC has never respected age ratings, it's purely a console thing so they could be sold in physical retailers.
>>724332502DLsite. You'll need a VPN to see the game and you'll have to add enough DLsite points to your account to buy it. It may also be tanked with their malware DRM.
>>724329278stupid zoomer
>>724332603Ok, as far as they are aware im in Tokyo but i can't see the game.On another note why is this the most popular tag.
>>724333141Proper tags died a few years ago.
>>724333141This particular game has not been added anywhere elsewhere yet since it was planned to be a Steam exclusive on PC and they are only now looking for alternatives after the ban.
>>724333242Total lolidomination
>>724333141It's not actually known yet if DLsite is going to be the alternate storefront they mentioned. It's just assumed so as they've released Lollipop Chainsaw there. Right now it's not released anywhere yet.
>>724332530Consoles aren't respecting it either and it's not just about physical retailers, anything blocked by Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft can't be sold on their platform period, not digitally nor print physicals on online stores like Amazon. These games often get LOWER ratings than some of the mainstream "mature" tripe like Cyberpunk and Baldur's Gate (Z in Japan, 18+ in Europe vs D in Japan, 16+ in Europe for many otaku ecchi games) yet those aren't blocked while these are.
>>724288759They just beat the UN's Cybertreaty censor plan so this and the CCs are next.
>>724328541>sex shops with no windowsexcuse me?
Can't they just set shop on their website for the pc version? Just give me a way to send them the money then they can send the download link in email or whatever.
>>724334664There's a lot of things they could do. The overarching problem is that none of them will lead to them getting even half the sales they would have had if they were on Steam.
>>724334664They won't have a problem selling the game, but they lose out on the reach they would get with Steam (especially with these titles typically doing their best PC numbers in China).
>>724335667They can sell this kind of stuff in china?
