why don’t you own the most powerful system out anon?
>>724285180But I already own a PC
>>724285180>4K
>>724285363It’s actually 8k
>>724285180i'm waiting to get a slim model so i can play gta 6
>>724285446It's actually 720p upscaled
>>724285459No slim pro my friend
>>724285180because the next ue5 slop on it will run at a buttery smooth 30 fps with 720p upscale
Because I already have a PS5 which runs great and all my cool friends think so too.
>>724285614slim models are my friend, always have been since the very beginning
>>724285180The base PS5 with the disc drive is the best value proposition.
>>724285957It’s not future proof like the pro
>>724286204it'll be fine
>>724285180>can't make it do what you wantI don't like owning what is functionally a paperweight. I'll stick to my PC with it's 4090.
>>724285180I already boughted the base ps5 years ago
>>724285504>>724285704You guys are being too generous.
>>724285180Ps6 in 2 yearsPs5 games still ported for ps4
>>724286330The pro will future proof you, won’t even need the ps6 until like 2031
if you own the ps4 copy of a game and a ps5 version comes out, you get the ps5 version for free. This mindbreaks the tendie.
>>724285180>why don’t you own the most powerful system out anon?Because I've already got a PS5, and there's no fucking games to play on it besides the Demon's Souls remake. Why the fuck would I buy ANOTHER edition of a console that STILL HAS NO GAMES?
>>724285246Pc gaming sucks. >>724286301It achieves 120fps, so they’re being too harsh on it I’d say.>>724285704The ue5 slop on it now runs at 60fps though
>>724285180I do. Playing Ninja Gaiden 4 on it.
>>724287074all the ps5 games i care about are on steam
>>724286262>it'sSAAR BUY THE PC AND STOP BUYING THE CONSOLE KINDLY!!
>>724285180I have a PS4 Pro. Close enough.
>>724287136All the PC games I care about are on consoles.
>>724287136What if people don’t want to play on steam?
>>724287173My phone auto puts the ' when slide typing "its">phone posterI know I'm cancer, but at least im not a street shitter.
>>724286708It has a lot of games, do you not like games?
>>724285180i do its called LSD. the graphics will blow your mind man
>>724285180Ah, but that's where you're wrong, anon, I already do.
>>724287361>It has a lot of games, do you not like games?No, it fucking doesn't. It has Demon's Souls remake. That's it. Literally EVERYTHING else worth playing that has released for it is something I could've already played on my computer. It's a total fucking waste, and I'll never buy a console again.
>>724285180having to buy a new bariatric chair
>>724287473Based, I think most of the relied are poors coping.
>>724285180Why would I get this when I have my compooder?
>>724287218Nothing's stopping you from buying on Epic(lol), GOG or just outright pirate.
>>724287218Then they have other issues besides gaming, like homosexuality.
>>724287613What if people want a simple plug and play experience?>>724287637See above
>>724287519you really needed AI to make that picture sir? oh you must not be from the US nvm continue
>>724287185But it barely plays Bloodborn any better than base PS4.
>>724287894I found it on a gay feeder tumblr I favorited for purposes of sending cringe from it.
>>724285246/thread
>>724285180Not gay enough to own a shitstation.
Wait until a few months the new patch for the ai will make it even better
>>724287683If you want that kind of simplicity the other consoles are cheaper and less of a ball ache.
>>724288024heh that works too. laugh at em but them them have their feeder fun.
>>724288283I'm leaving them alone, I just copy and paste the pics to punish people on discord.
>>724288181what?
>>724285180*inhales*
>>724287637Steam is exclusively for homosexuals, though. The friend threads prove it.
>>724288242Xbox is not cheaper, has fewer games, and isn't any less of a ballache. Meanwhile Switch 2 isn't even an option without losing access to a lot of new releases.
>>724287504Your computer hasn't had any exclusives this gen worth playing either. Stick to your PCMR 'cord before you inevitably off yourself.
>>724288821OP is the Pro, nothing is a bigger ripoff.
>>724285246>But I already own a PCI too own a PC, it has an i5-4590. it's 8 years old.
>>724288927>muh exclusivesNTA but its funny because you'll use that as a defense mechanism for the PS5 but then say that more highly rated nintendo games aren't worthwhile and don't count since you can't even play them at all
>>724285180Because:>1. I already own a PC and my specs are objectively stronger than a PS5 Pro.>2. The less than handful of true exclusives the console has are absolutely not worth spending $500 for it.>3. Said less than handful of true exclusives the console has are a sequel of a third party game already on PC, the sequel of a first party game already on PC, the most masturbatory platform game in existence and a remake of a PS3 game.4. You can't even play your offline single player games if their online service goes down, which is by far one of the most idiotic things of modern console gaming.No anon, you need to give me a compelling argument on why buying anything Sony related in 2025 isn't an absolute waste of money, especially when I already own a gaming PC.
Performance wasted on resolution si stupid.I have one, I don't regret it. But I don't use it.I am using a 20 year old PC that can't even handle 360 era games. Up to 2002 unless 2D.That is better than "the best console"And the guy who made a GREAT white and black box case to replace the stupid blades didn't offer the printing design, didn't offer to sell what he did. He offered a compromise that looks like shit. Coward. A good thing that would have made a PS5 look great gone. Because he didn't want threat or to give a cut to MS.It's an ok console, but could be much better. The joypad is bad, the triggers all that can be used with hands holding the controller naturally, other triggers/buttons not under fingers. So can't be used simultaneously.Controllers shoul dbe gloves anyway.And their VR solution looks and is stupid. Didn't care enought o do 2D to 3D conversion so other games could look great, turned steroscopic 3D, movies and browsing too.It doesn't play many formats. Not Avif, AV1, etc. Doesn't seem to have much of if any store for movies. Doesn't have the full library of PSX & PS2 & PS3 games available, despite other and better people doing the work of making them.Games aren't all shown, only 10 last played, 5 of them available to be kept there.It doesn't have basic apps. It's just games. A lot of which bad. Quality control letting some bad stuff through instead of tryiong to make it better and or save the players from aquiring bad taste.GTA should be banned. Not exlusive.Shouldn't have any anime shit.No spiderman.No Last of Us DLC or sequel.No fucking niggers.Players should be sure to get something good they will like and makes them better. Some of that filterning may be my responsibility. They aren't doing a good enough job of it. Witcher 3 killed my interest in playing games though. That should have been banned too until released without downgrades and to a standard. At least Cyberpunk 2077 came of it.
>>724285504>720p upscaledWay too generous. It's actually 360p upscaled
>>724289186>>muh exclusivesBrought up first by the anon that totally isn't you. Just being fair.>nintendo gamesI like Nintendo and Switch 2 is poised to take a giant shit on PC's library of no exclusives in just its first year online.
>>724288950Yeah, the Pro is pretty unnecessary. You'd do fine with just a regular PS5 without having to suffer with something as shit as a Series S.
>>724289439The minimal resolution to acheive playablity should be used. Maximum performance on action. On what needs to be 3D. Sometimes it's what you can't see. Usually is.
>>724289186It's just another shartynigger shitting up this website as per usual.I own one but I feel like I should've just kept my old ps4 since there really was nothing that was worth spending the extra money on. But desu I have not been enjoying gaming as much anyways.
>>724289236TRVTH VND NVKE!
>>724289439On the pro it probably is 720p upscaled to 4k though to be fair. The 360 figure was probably for series s
>>724289236That applies to most games on steam too if it goes down as well. pc has to play with hackers and pc has to wait on gta 6
>>724289875>I don't play multiplayer games, let alone against strangers>I couldn't give two flying fucks about America SimulatorYou failed.
>>724285180>disc drive not included Fucking trash. I will just buy the original model used.
>>724290141digi is the future you old fuck.
>>724290141Extra storage worth it. You don't need a disc drive. It's better to quickly select what you want. less of a barrier to play.
>>724290074Multiplayer games are the best selling games every single year dumbass.GTA 6 is going to be the biggest thing in media ever too. That’s genuinely a problem for PC. Just because you like a faggot niche role playing game doesn’t mean you’re special.
>>724290520but but he can play shadow man with mods
>>724285180Because in 2027 ps6 will come out
>>724290759>Because in 2027 ps6 will come outleaks say that production will start at 2027
>>724290846and with MS committing sudoku sony only really has to worry about how it performs vs the switchesgrim
>>724290846Sure and it will come out for the holidays
>>724291127>Sure and it will come out for the holidaysit usually takes 6 months.
>>724290520I told you to give me a compelling argument to purchase Sony's failure of a console and you failed again. Don't reply again to me, waste of oxygen.
>>724291336>PC out of nowhere
>>724291340There's been zero compelling arguments for joining /v/'s PCult for the history of this board, but turdworlders still do it. You'll live.
>>724285180It's weaker than my PC
>>724289236>>1. I already own a PC and my specs are objectively stronger than a PS5 Pro.Objectively stronger. So you're poor with a shit box. >>2. The less than handful of true exclusives the console has are absolutely not worth spending $500 for it.GT7 on PSVR2 is worth the price alone. >>3. Said less than handful of true exclusives the console has are a sequel of a third party game already on PC, the sequel of a first party game already on PC, the most masturbatory platform game in existence and a remake of a PS3 game.same as PC. No good exclusives worth buying a PC for. >4. You can't even play your offline single player games if their online service goes down, which is by far one of the most idiotic things of modern console gaming.One game does this. Every other single player game doesn't require online connection
>>724291235Whats your fucking point?Because my point is there is no reason to get the pro when the ps6 is so close.
>>724289875>pc has to wait on gta 6so what? Is 6 so bad that itll be forgotten by the time the PC port comes out?
It’s a beast
>No games I dont already own or new ones that I want>Glorified DRM machine that cant be upgraded>Only good for playing video games at bestPeople really are buying this shit just to have it.
>>724292194>Only good for playing video games at bestit's a games console. that's what it's designed to do - play games.
>>724291597>snoyroach calling others third worldersNow that's rich.>>724291774>GT7>the worst entry in the series>worthlmao. Thanks again for proving me right and giving absolutely no reasons why anyone should buy a PS5.
>>724285180>why don’t you own the most powerful system out anon?no gaems
>>724292382just because PS5 pro doesnt have exclusives doesnt mean people just want to go and play nintendo stuff or deal with pc, anon.
>>724291340Explain exactly how its a failure. I can debunk anything you say.
>>724292446i never mentioned nintendo or pc. it just has no gaems, ergo me no buy
>>724292363yes, we should all listen to the guy who hasn't played it
>>724292538you didnt mention them, but those are the only two other places to play video games. So in process, you said nintendo and pc.Again, just because a PS5 Pro has barely any exclusives, doesnt mean someone is just going to say oh let me go play Mario. Not going to happen.
>>724292614words long. me hate boredom. me like game. buy ps5 pro? oops no game. me angry
Give a reason why anyone should buy a gaming PC over it?
>>724291931>Whats your fucking point?it's not close though.
>>724292736It has as many modern big sought after games as PC does though, just not as expensive and easier to use.
>>724285180Because I have a 5090 and a 9950x3d
>>724292737dont worry they cant
>>724285180No games and it's too big and ugly.I'll need black covers for it so it can camoflage itself into surroundings.
>>724292506I already gave my points, snoyroach, and yet you still haven't given me a single argument as of why I should waste my money on a PS5. Will you say GTAVI again because that's the only game you have left even when everyone knows it WILL be released on PC sooner or later?It's hilarious how you roaches can do nothing but antagonize everyone else because they're not falling for Sony's bullshit.
>it's not about specs>it's about the experience
>>724292878Maybe they're not reasons for a niche faggot like you, but there are plenty of reasons for the vast majority of people.
>>724292935PC and Tendie seethe incoming
>>724289875>That applies to most games on steam tooIt does not. I can play my Steam games with no issues if Steam goes down.>>724290520>Multiplayer games are the best selling games every single year>GTA 6 is going to be the biggest thing in media ever too. That’s genuinely a problem for PCOk but how does this affect me personally?
>>724293285See>>724292965
>>724293285why do you think you can't play a console without internet?
>>724285180I don't need one as I already have a pc with a Ryzen 7 9800x3d and a RTX 4090
>>724293635A 4090 arguably isn't even a bare minimum card anymore though
>>724290520Multiplayer games are still better on PC because of mnk, even if you have to deal with the occasional cheater. Plus, everyone has aimbot on console anyway, so cheating is a bigger problem there.
>>724290141Genuinely what is the point of discs aside from collecting them? You can't own games on console anyway so that argument is pointless.
>>724293817Console has aim assist for all players to mitigate natural disadvantages of controller for multiplayer games.
>>724293867If you buy the latest games and complete them within a week or 2 you can sell them on for very little loss, so you get to play all the latest games for very little money.
>>724291774>No good exclusives worth buying a PC forFor the sake of argument, let's say that's true. In that case, PC and PlS5 are equal in terms of exclusives, so exclusives become a non-factor in the purchase decision. PC is superior in every other way, so you'd be a retard to go with PlS5.
>>724294001ok. name them, and tell me why I should buy a PC over a console.
>>724294001The PS5 actually has some exclusives, timed or permanent though. Your PC graphics card probably didn't come with a fully haptic controller either now did it?
>>724294045>tell me why I should buy a PC over a consoleMore powerful, more flexible, cheaper in the long run, mods, more freedom, you can actually own your games, among other things.>>724294048>fully haptic controller>controllerWhy would I want that? I already have a mouse and keyboard. Plus, you can buy a controller and use it on PC if you really want.
>>724294309Carpal tunnel syndrome isn’t fun
>>724294309>More powerful,so the more powerful something is the better it is for gaming? What PC do you have?> more flexible,why do you need a bendy PC?>cheaper in the long runnot if power is important to you, that was your first point.> mods so the games aren't good enough and you need to tinker with them? That's like buying a home cinema only to watch those retarded budget student movies> more freedomI can travel without a passport? what?>you can actually own your gamesbut you can't sell them. so you don't really own them.
>>724293702What would you consider to be the minimum anon, a 5090?
>>724294593Yeah pretty much. You’d be surprised at how dogshit anything less would perform in the real world.
>>724292737>>724294309
>>724294593anything less than a 5090 and you might as well have a console
>>724292890Correct. Even a weaker PC wins over a console because it's superior in every other way.
>>724294707what ways?
>>724293582How are you planning to get day 1 patches? Dlc? Or do you just play your games permanently broken and unfinished?
>>724294707It really just boils down to preference. If you don’t like being fucked with by hackers on pc and you want plug and play you go console.
>>724294818 can you get patches on PC without internet?
>>724293904It's still aimbot because gyro is right there and yet they refuse to use it.
>>724293943I guess, but I'd bet most people care about replaying more. Plus, if you wanted games cheap, PC is the best option because of steam sales or even piracy.
>>724294930>buy game for $60 and complete it >sell it a week later for $50 how is it cheaper than $10 for a new game?
PCMR bros are just too stubborn to understand that PC gaming only makes sense when you need to build a PC from the ground up. I have an 8 year old build. it runs great for literally everything apart from playing games.
>>724285180>still trying to trick people into consoles in 2025The people who buy PS5's in large numbers are retards that buy sports games like MLB the Show, FIFA & Madden. Not hobbyists.
I'm content with a base ps5
>>724295048 he's right. I bought 16 PS5 consoles and only play sports games like FIFA
>>724285180I don't play many games anymore and I use my PC for rendering stuff these days
>>724294423Again, you can just use a controller if you wish.>>724294464>What PC do you have? RTX 3060 Ti + Ryzen 5 3600. Admittedly a little weaker than the pro, but it plays my games well enough and again, beats the pro in every other way.>why do you need a bendy PC?You know that's not what I meant. >not if power is important to youYes, even if you get a powerful PC you save money over time via better sales (or piracy) and not having to pay an extra subscription to play online.>so the games aren't good enough and you need to tinker with them?Mods aren't just for fixing games. They can add content too. The games have the same issues and lack of content on console too.>I can travel without a passport? what? Again, you know what I meant.>but you can't sell them. so you don't really own them.And you can't mod your games, or back them up in case sony decides to take them away.
>>724294734>>724294309
>>724294828If you want to play on a platform where everyone has aimbot and don't get banned, sure. I prefer PC where hackers are rarer and get banned pretty quick.
>>724295213 >RTX 3060 Ti + Ryzen 5 3600. Admittedly a little weaker than the pro, but it plays my games well enough and again, beats the pro in every other way.So it's not more powerful then. It was a lie. >but it beats the pro in every other way. it doesn't beat the pro for playing games. that is what we're discussing. >You know that's not what I meant.No. I don't >Yes, even if you get a powerful PC you save money over time via better sales (or piracy) and not having to pay an extra subscription to play online.No you don't. That's lie number 2. How does the price of a power GPU and CPU along with a high wattage PSU compare with $2 per week online fees? >Mods aren't just for fixing games. They can add content too. The games have the same issues and lack of content on console too.you just want to have your characters in their underwear and big tits. You're just some weirdo who has to have sex injected into everything. >Again, you know what I meant.No. I don't. >And you can't mod your games, or back them up in case sony decides to take them away.But you can't sell them so you don't own them. You have a licence to use it and that licence isn't transferable.
>>724294971Because it's $0 for a new game. It also requires you to buy day 1 when it's most likely broken and beat it in that state. And again, most people like replaying games. You can't do that, at least not without extra time and effort if you sell your games after beating them.
>>724295467>Because it's $0 for a new game.no it isn't, or are you a nigger?
>>724295167Poor talk
>>724295397>So it's not more powerful then. It was a lie. Fair, I guess I forgot the second part, which is "if you want">it doesn't beat the pro for playing gamesIt does because graphics and performance aren't everything.>No. I don't Alright, I'll spoonfeed you. I was talking about flexibility as in having options. You can choose what parts you want in your PC, you can choose what you want to control your games with, you can choose what balance of fps/graphics you want, and so on. On console you're limited to the one option you're given.>How does the price of a power GPU and CPU along with a high wattage PSU compare with $2 per week online feesBecause electricity is cheap, and consoles use quite a bit too. $2 per week quickly turns to $100 per year and then $700 for the consoles entire lifespan. Plus, they've been trending up. Soon it'll be $3 per week, then 4, 5 and so on.>you just want to have your characters in their underwear and big titsNope, but more power to them. I mostly use mods to fix major design issues some games have and to add extra content.>No. I don't. I guess this is kind of the same thing as flexibility, but on PC you're not locked down to one company like on console.>You have a licence to use itSo do you with your discs. Sony can revoke that license and leave you with a paperweight. I don't care about reselling anyway. Replaying is more important to me. Plus, next gen you probably won't even have a disc drive anymore if the 5 pro is anything to go by.
>>724295532Nope. Piracy is a White man's activity. Has been for hundreds of years.
>>724295914>It does because graphics and performance aren't everything.It was your main point earlier and now it's not? I think you're just blowing smoke out of your arsehole. The Pro is more powerful than your PC. It plays games better than your PC. Games run and look better than games you're playing on your PC. >you can choose what you want to control your games with, you can choose what balance of fps/graphics you want, and so on. On console you're limited to the one option you're given.I can on console. I can buy wheels, mice and keyboards, different brands and types of controllers. Games even have settings to switch between fps or image quality preferences. >Because electricity is cheap, and consoles use quite a bit too.no they don't. A good gaming PC can pull 800-1200w from the mains. A console is around 250-300w at most. >$2 per week quickly turns to $100 per year and then $700 for the consoles entire lifespan.Are you that broke that $100 a year for a 300+ game library is too much for you? $700 for the lifespan of a console - that's 3x GPU upgrades and 2x CPU upgrades. A PC upgrade costs more than $700 >but on PC you're not locked down to one company like on console.what? locked to a company? >So do you with your discs. how can sony lock your out of your disc? You don't put a code into the console to play a game. You just insert the disc and it plays. >I don't carenot a reason.
>>724296048>validating
>>724285180>the most powerful systemif thats true, thats somehow even more pathetic for consolites.
>>724296389now show the fps along with it
>>724296389Oh cool, an accurate shadow.
how it feels arguing with a PCfag.every retort is some contrived asspull
>>724296389Wow
>>724296930PC is so much better they have to resort to lying about it
>>724296267>It was your main point earlier and now it's notIt was never my main point, just the most obvious so I said it first. Op's main point was that the 5 pro is>the most powerful system outWhich is not true.>Games run and look betterMaybe, but I can make my games both run or look better by tweaking settings. All you can do is choose between upscaled 4k at 30fps or upscaled 2k at 60fps. Plus, I'm gonna upgrade soonish anyway, and then my PC will beat both the 5 pro and eventual 6.>I can on console. I can buy wheels, mice and keyboardsOnly for supported games. Plus, you don't have even remotely yhe remapping ability PC does.>A good gaming PC can pull 800-1200w from the mains. A console is around 250-300w at most. And your fridge and freezer use 2-3 timed that and are on 24/7. Gaming electricity consumption is largely irrelevant.>Are you that brokeNo. Are you that broke that you can't buy a PC>for a 300+ game libraryHuh, I thought you owned your games. Now you're bragging about renting them.>A PC upgrade costs more than $700Sure, and you only really need to upgrade every 1.5 gens on average. Doesn't change the fact that console + online basically adds up to a full PC.>what? locked to a company?>the slave is so mindbroken it can't comprehend not having a masterCan you buy games from another company than sony on you PlS5? Or just pirate them? What do you do when sony gets greedy and starts charging you a subscriotion to access your games?>how can sony lock your out of your disc?The same way they can lock you out of installed games. Discs aren't special. The data is stored on them in 1s and 0s the same way it's on your SSD. Sony has total control over your console, hardware and software. Every time you launch a game, it first goes through a license verification step. They simply revoke your license and the next time you connect to the internet, that game will be bricked and there won't be anything you van do about it.
>>724296389Sow exactly how much is a 4070 build? Also a ps5 pro has more vram than a 4070 as well
>>724285180I own a RTX 5080 GAYMIN PC with like 12TB of SSD space and a 25 TB HDD
>>724285180I do though.
>>724285180Because i have an IQ over 100 and know that the console kikes have ruined the plug and play appeal of console gaming.
>>724297954Ps5 pro doesnt have GDDR7 plus ur ram is consumed by ur os lol. I got 32 GB of DDR5 8000mhz ram
>>724285180ps5 was probably my last console. played maybe 10 games on it and haven't turned it on in abut a year and a half
>>724298392>ur ram is consumed by ur osnope
>>724298392The vram that ps5 pro has available for gaming is 13.7gb. Try again idiot
>>724297954>16 GB of vram shared between the CPU and GPUSo like 8GB in reality.
>>724285180no games
>>724297881>it was never my main pointit was only point. Your other points are just personal preference.>but I can make my games both run or look better by tweaking settings. No you can't. Lie number 3. >I'm gonna upgrade soonish anyway, and then my PC will beat both the 5 pro and eventual 6.I thought it was cheaper? >Plus, you don't have even remotely yhe remapping ability PC does.such a pointless argument. >And your fridge and freezer use 2-3 timed that and are on 24/7. Gaming electricity consumption is largely irrelevant.You brought it up you daft fuck. I just responded to your lies. >No. Are you that broke that you can't buy a PCI have a few PCs. When did I say I didn't? >Huh, I thought you owned your games. Now you're bragging about renting them.When you buy on disc you own them. When you pay a montly subscription you get to play them while you subscribe , like netflix. Why do you retards need to be so dishonest about everything? >Sure, and you only really need to upgrade every 1.5 gens on average. Doesn't change the fact that console + online basically adds up to a full PC. My CPU and motherboard cost more than my Pro console. My power supply cost more than a regular PS5 console. You've just said you're upgrading your PC to something better than a Pro and even a PS6. So you're clearly going to be spending over $1500. Just another in a long line of lies and halve truths from you.>Can you buy games from another company than sony on you PlS5?You mean like buy games made for xbox? of course not. Just like you can't buy a PS5 game and run it. You're getting more and more retarded the more you post. >Or just pirate them? I'm not brown or poor. I can afford to buy my games. >What do you do when sony gets greedy and starts charging you a subscriotion to access your games?Inventing a scenario which hasn't occurred isn't an argument.
>>724298647>The vram that ps5 pro has available for gaming is 13.7gb.it has 16gb available.
>>724285180I'm not paying $700 for a video game console, especially one with no backwards compatibility.
>>724298784No it doesn't, it's 2gb just for background os and other stuff, then of the 16gb left over its divided into graphics use and game ram use.
>>724297881>The same way they can lock you out of installed games. Discs aren't special. The data is stored on them in 1s and 0s the same way it's on your SSD. You don't get to use the disc on one console. You can use the disc on as many different consoles as you want. That's why you can sell the disc to other people. Sony might be able to block you from playing that disc game online but it can't stop you from playing that game offline mode. And if they could you just make another log in account and continue playing it. Just more retarded drivel from you and your huge cope.
>>724298851nope
>>724285180>worse game performance than vanilla PS5 despite DOUBLE the price>obsolete in less than 2 yearsI pity everyone who fell for this shameless scam
I do.
>>724298929Yes, that is how shared system memory works. Games take ram to run and ram is also needed for graphics rendering, therefore shared system memory is used for both tasks.The pro PS5 has an additional 2gb that is just for the os and background applications to run to reduce use of shared system ram allowing for better gaming performance.
>>724298665It’s got 13.7gb of vram dedicated to gaming. A 4070 doesn’t have that. So
Nah, bought a Slim when my original PS5 died. If you buy a console without a disc drive you are a dumbass. I'll gladly go to 4k bluray players if they want to pull this next gen, which will probably happen.
>>724298730>Your other points are just personal preference>freedom is a personal preferenceRight, my bad. I forgot you're a slave.>No you can'tYes I can. Games have dozens of graphics settings. I can't always make them do both at the same time, but I can always get a game to EITHER run better than your console OR look better. Or anything in between. Options. Flexibility.>I thought it was cheaperAnd it still is for comparable hardware.>such a pointless argumentAgain, freedom is only pointless to slaves. This is an objective advantage PC has over consoles.>You brought it up you daft fuckGo back in the thread. You're the one who brought up power consumption.>I have a few PCsSo why the hell do you use an inferior platform to play your games then?>When you buy on disc you own themPatently false. Sony can brick that disc with a snap of their fingers.>My CPU and motherboard cost more than my Pro consoleWhy even have a pro console then? For the 3 "exclusives" that come to PC anyway?>You've just said you're upgrading your PC to something better than a ProMy bad. I meant probably and soonish as in a few years, whenever I'm no longer satisfied with it.>You mean like buy games made for xbox?No. I mean buy the same games from another storefront like on PC.>I'm not brown or poor. I can afford to buy my games.So can I, but it's an option for those who want it.>Inventing a scenario which hasn't occurred isn't an argument.It will happen eventually. Just because you can't extrapolate that sony will continue to get greedier in the future from the fact hey've been doing that in the past doesn't mean it won't happen. Sony is a publicly owned company, which means they're legally required to increase shareholder value. Once they can no longer grow marketshare (which will likely happen next gen with xbox dying), they'll be forced to start enshittifying to ensure the line keeps going up.
>>724298963Wait until you see how many people bought GPUs alone that costed even more than the Pro
>>724298896>but it can't stop you from playing that game offline modeIt can. As soon as you go online, the console downloads a list of games you're allowed and not allowed to play. Once you go offline again, that list will be downloaded and you can't get rid of it. If the list says you're not allowed to play a specific game, you're fucked.
>>724298979That's not the most powerful system out, though.
>>724299121It's got 13.7 GB of shared RAM and VRAM. A PC with a 4070 typically has anywhere from 16-32 GB of RAM plus (I think) 12 GB of VRAM on the 4070 itself.
>>724299801The pro has 16gb of gddr6 ram and 2 extra gb of ddr5 but it has 13.7gb dedicated to gaming, meanwhile the base has 12.5.
>>724299562>Yes I can.No you can't. You can't make a lower spec gpu perform better than a higher spec gpu by sliding a game menu slider you utter mong. >And it still is for comparable hardware.so you're not buying parts which will out perform a console? another lie. >Go back in the thread. You're the one who brought up power consumption."Because electricity is cheap, and consoles use quite a bit too."You're not very good at this. Another lie. How many is that now, 5? >So why the hell do you use an inferior platform to play your games then?I like to play games. I don't care if it's on PC or console. But when I play them I want the best experience for both. So the Pro console is the most powerful console and my PC is the most powerful PC. >Patently false. Sony can brick that disc with a snap of their fingers.You're saying Sony can damage the disc? Is this lie 6 or are you a huge mong. Can Sony damage your music CDs too? >Why even have a pro console then? For the 3 "exclusives" that come to PC anyway?Why not have both? I don't care for exclusives. I don't need to be a warring console faggot like you. >My bad. I meant probably and soonish as in a few years, whenever I'm no longer satisfied with it.So it's another lie you dishonest twat. >No. I mean buy the same games from another storefront like on PC.Every single game is available on one storefront. Why do you need multiple storefronts selling the exact same content? >It will happen eventually. Your invented scenario hasn't happened. Why are you banging on about it like it has?
>>724299654No it doesn't. lol retard
>>724299979The base has 16gb in total, pro just has that extra 2gb of ddr5 though
>>724287074>Pc gaming sucks.I don't know about you but I think the ability to mod games is way better than any bonus consoles offer over PC.
>>724300098post your nexus recently downloaded mods list
>>724285180what would I play on it exactly? dei spiderman? cuck of war? not to mention it's upscaled 720p
>>724300180I mainly use the Steam Workshop, and mainly mod Rimworld and Zomboid.
>>724300237ok fair enough, I don't play mobile games
>>724285180I felt like a 9950X3D and a 5090 weren't big enough upgrades from my 7950X3D and 4090 to be worth paying for, so I'm still using the slightly slower parts I already have.
>>724300280I didn't name any mobile games. I don't play mobile games either. I don't think you can play Kenshi on a mobile device either, and I use a lot of mods on that game as well.
>>724285180Isn't this thing just a more expensive PS5 with no actual improvements.>PS5 is CPU-bottlenecked>PS5 Pro releases with the same CPUThe games get the same fucking fps, no?
>>724300294I bought a 5090 for my VR pc and when I seen the uplift over my 4090 in my main pc I had to get another.
>>724300098What’s the point of modding a game though?
>>724300341what PS5 games don't run on PS5 CPU ?
>>724300362Increasing your enjoyment of the game by customizing it to your preferences.
>>724300381I did skyrim mods like 12 years ago, made my own ENBs for a few games etc but not touched modding in years. Not really for me.
>>724300376They all run but very few will give you a consistent 60 fpsMonster Hunter Wilds in performance mode gives you 30-45fps
>>724300341A lot of the games now run in quality mode at 60fps, a lot of single player games now get around 100fps and call of duty for example on vrr displays
>>724300442Okay, cool. I mod Morrowind and I like modded Morrowind, I think it's better than vanilla Skyrim, which I have played on consoles.
>>724300445>They all run but very few will give you a consistent 60 fpsI've not played a Pro console game which doesn't have a consistent 60fps. I've not played wilds though so can't say either way.
>>724299986>No you can't. You can't make a lower spec gpu perform better than a higher spec gpu by sliding a game menu slider you utter mong.I can. I'm not talking about graphics+fps, but pure graphics or pure framerate. I can turn everything to max and it'll look better or everything to min and it'll run better, or any combination to reach my personal optimal balance.>so you're not buying parts which will out perform a console? another lie.Where is the lie? PC is cheaper if you go for similar hardware. It can be more expensive if you go full balls to the wall and get the RTX 6gorillion90 NIGGERKILLER ULTRA EDITION>You're not very good at this. Another lie.Go back a bit further. You brought up high wattage PSUs first.>How does the price of a power GPU and CPU along with a high wattage PSU compare with $2 per week online fees>I like to play games. I don't care if it's on PC or console.Ok, but why even have a console? What usecase does it fill that your PC doesn't? Why not put the money towards a better PC, or assuming you already have the best possible and upgrade every generation, more games?>You're saying Sony can damage the disc?No. Why are you taking everything literally? Sony can block your console from launching it.>Why not have both?Why have both? What does your console do your PC doesn't?>So it's another lie you dishonest twatNope. I was just getting close to post limit and didn't add extra text. Again, my bad.>Why do you need multiple storefronts selling the exact same content?So that you're not locked to one in case they decide to start fleecing you. I don't buy games outside Steam either, but if Valve decides to pull something, I have options.>Your invented scenario hasn't happened. Why are you banging on about it like it has?Because it's not exactly unlikely, and there's no reason to make yourself vulnerable to it when there's another option.
>>724300520Well you've probably seen mention of it but MH Wilds was horribly fucking optimized so the blame is mostly on them, not the PS5.
>>724300008Yes it does.
>>724286449>future proofwhat the fuck happened to console gens where we're now talking about future proofing? the whole point for most of my life has been "buy the new console to get the biggest jump in performance and newest games". now we're trying to figure out how to stay on the old one? what the fuck?i remember when people were frothing at the mouth to rid themselves of the old console. i remember when people were going from a ps2 to a ps3 and thinking "god fucking damn, this is awesome!". but, i suppose this happens when gen to gen updates are miniscule at best.
>>724299141>bought a Slim when my original PS5 died.How could a PS5 die already? My PS1 from 1995 still works.
>>724288697>from 720pnothing has advanced since the ps4 and xbox one in terms of tech specs, it's just how many fake frames and fake pixels we can make
I only need PC/Nintendo nowadays. Had a Switch 1, never felt the need to buy PS4 because it sucked. PS5 they started porting games to PC, perfect I can just pirate them.
>>724300951By that logic you can also pirate and emulate Nintendo games, especially the switch 1s games
>>724300594>I can. You can't. Unless you're talking about running games at 10fps. "look I made game look better but now it's unplayable">PC is cheaper if you go for similar hardware.Similar hardware now. You do jump around don't you? I thought performance mattered? sorry performance didn't matter. You've flipped so many times I can't keep up with your lies >Ok, but why even have a console? I've told you. To play games on console. >What usecase does it fill that your PC doesn't? To play games on a console. Some games aren't on PC. Friends are on console so to play with them online etc. It's also a good console. The hate it gets from PC only fags is just retarded. The experience of the Pro console is pretty much the same as a PC with a RTX 3080 in. If the pro is shit then 95% of PC gaming is shit. >Why not put the money towards a better PC, or assuming you already have the best possible and upgrade every generation, more games?I don't need to budget cut to buy games. >Sony can block your console from launching it.Sony can block the console from launching it online. If they blocked you from launching your own game disc you could sue them. >Why have both? What does your console do your PC doesn't?Because I can. I like GT7. I like Demon's Souls. I have a huge PS digital library attached to my account which would be a waste to just abandon because of PC fanaticism >So that you're not locked to one in case they decide to start fleecing you.You can walk into a store or go on ebay and buy games. >Because it's not exactly unlikelyit hasn't happened. Since the start of this you've either lied or changed every single original point you made. Is this how you cope? by convincing yourself with lies?
>>724301024What logic? They got tons of online stuff which can't be pirated and that's 90% what you spend your time on
>>724301142What online stuff?
>>724285180Why is everyone here so fucking retarded?
>>724301364Brand loyalty is a hell of a drug. I hope a cure is found for them someday.
>>724301420every mention of a console triggers a bunch of retarded pc drones , you don't get to talk about brand loyalty when you can't even discuss a console without pc owners needing to validate their computers
>>724301532You have my heartfelt pity.
>>724301532Bruh u retards dont even understand how a computer works
>>724296930Bruh ur genuinely retarded lol.
>>724301041That's what I'm talking about. Point is, I'm not forced to upgrade just yet when games stop targeting and releasing on ps5 because O can turn down graphics.>You've flipped so many timesI'm not flipping because I'm not talking only about myself, but PC as a whole. You can have a cheap PC that plays new games in 720p at 30fps, a bullshit expensive one that plays games the best they can physically run at that point, or anything in between. I have one usecase, and the reason I'm seemingly "flipping" is because I'm also mentioning other usecases as options.>To play games on consoleI get that, but you haven't explained why. What advantage does your console offer you that your PC doesn't?>Some games aren't on PCIt's really not that many these days, and most of the exclusives come to PC anyway, but fair I guess. If you already have as good a PC as exists right now and still have money to burn, all the power to you.>Friends are on console so to play with them onlineI don't really play online games, but dpn't most of them have crossplay thse days?>The experience of the Pro console is pretty much the same as a PC with a RTX 3080Eh, graphics/performance wise, sure, but you're missing everything else PC has. The pro (and consoles in general) are shit because of how limited they are compared to PC. Graphics plays a part, but it's far from everything.>Sony can block the console from launching it onlineYes, if you ever go online, the console will know you're no longer allowed to play that game and refuse to play it even offline anymore.>you could sue themSue a multibillion dollar company? Can you afford that? What happens when sony says you agreed to have your licenses revoked in the eula?>I like GT7. I like Demon's SoulsFair I guess.>PS digital librarySo sunk cost fallacy?>You can walk into a store or go on ebay and buy games. And on ps6 when it no longer supports physical games? Or even has a subscription just to turn on?
>>724301532We're simply trying to help, but it seems slaves would rather stay loyal to their masters than be free.
>>724301420You can't cure tribalism out of human beans.
>>724301585My pc is better than yours
>>724302285But We both have RTX 5090.you cant get better hardware because it doesnt fucking exists yet.
>>724285180Because all I've ever wanted to do from the start of playing vidya was dungeon crawl with my bros and then Sony had a trailer for Deep Down at the PS4 reveal and never fucking released it. If you use a game for revealing your damn console, you should make sure you actually make it and it's not some bullshit cgi video drawn up for marketing the thing only.
>>724301708>That's what I'm talking about. Point is, I'm not forced to upgrade just yet when games stop targeting and releasing on ps5 because O can turn down graphics.great. So your underpowered PC performs even worse>I'm not flipping because I'm not talking only about myself, but PC as a whole. You can have a cheap PC that plays new games in 720p at 30fps, a bullshit expensive one that plays games the best they can physically run at that point, or anything in between So you're acting as if you're someone with my PC rather than your PC. You're telling me what my PC is like and not what your PC is like? >I get that, but you haven't explained why. Why do I have to explain why I buy and use something to anyone? >>The experience of the Pro console is pretty much the same as a PC with a RTX 3080>Eh, graphics/performance wise, sure, but you're missing everything else PC has.I'm not missing anything. You're missing everything because you don't have a high performance console or PC. > The pro (and consoles in general) are shit because of how limited they are compared to PC. Graphics plays a part, but it's far from everything.It's better than 90% of /v/ PCs including yours. If I had an option to game on a 3060ti or a Pro console the console would win. I wouldn't even have to spend time thinking about it. >Yes, if you ever go online, the console will know you're no longer allowed to play that game and refuse to play it even offline anymore.Sony do not block game discs from being used offline. Why can't you understand this. The console has a drive which can be wiped. Accounts can be changed etc. You have no idea what you're talking about. #>>PS digital library>So sunk cost fallacy?No. It's a game library. One which plays games better than your gaming system. >And on ps6 when it no longer supports physical games? Or even has a subscription just to turn on?the PS6 doesn't exist yet you stupid mong
>>724302363I have 2 5090s. I win
>>724285180Comparing a PS5 pro to a RTX 5090 is like comparing a coughing baby to a 50 mt thermonuclear weapon.
>>724302638Why? You cant use SLI or NVlink on RTX 5090 Moron unless you doing AI wagie slave work.
>>724285180but I already have a pc
>>724302708I have more than one pc. I'm sure /v/ is just all the mongs who got laughed out of reddit
What is the rough gpu equivalent of a PS5 and a PS5 Pro?
>>724302838PS5 - 2060PS5 Pro 3070 - 4070ish depending on the game
>>724302838a gtx 1060
>>724285180PS VITA GIGACHAD EDITION>PS5 Pro performance >Requires a laptop battery to function with less 1 hr battery life at 55 watts or just plugged into the wall>1800 USD
>>724302790You have two PCs because you're too retarded and lazy to set up your cables for multiple rooms.
>>724302886kek snoyggers have no clue about technology
>>724302920Not at all. I have one PC which is set up for VR and a sim rig. The PC under the TV is for regular games.
>>724302920who needs cables when Sunshine/Apollo exist
>>724302979But your VR rig could do BOTH, you knucklehead.
>>724303017I didn't say it couldn't do both. I said I choose to have one as a dedicated VR/sim rig PC.
>>724303125This is part of why you're regarded as silly.
>>724303181>you're silly if you have more than one computerwhy?
>>724302615>So your underpowered PC performs even worseMore like keeps playing new games while your console is obsolete.>So you're acting as if you're someone with my PCNo. I'm stating all of the usecases of PC, including my personal usecase. And comparing them to the fact console only has one and is thus more limited.>Why do I have to explain why I buy and use something to anyone?Because you entered a console vs PC thread and started arguing in favor of console.>You're missing everything because you don't have a high performance console or PC.I'm not missing anything. I can play all the games I want at settings that look good with mods and everything else PC offers.>It's better than 90% of /v/ PCs including yoursAgain. Purely in graphics.>If I had an option to game on a 3060ti or a Pro console the console would win.And if I had that option, the 3060ti would win because you lose 10% or whatever in graphics and gain 100% in all other areas.>I wouldn't even have to spend time thinking about it. Neither would I.>Sony do not block game discs from being used offlineNot yet they don't. If they wanted to (and they will eventually), it would be trivial for them.>No. It's a game libraryYes, and you're letting that library dictate your purchase decisions because you've already SUNK money into it. Hence, sunk cost fallacy.>the PS6 doesn't exist yet you stupid mongReally? I had no idea. That's why I was constantly talking about ps5 and only mentioning the 6 in future contexts.
>>724302894HOLY KEK! PlayStoddlers BTFO
I bought PS5 Slim and I kind of regret it, imagine shelling out money for Pro
>>724285246Fpbp
>>724300294>>724300351where do you get money for that? I tried not being poor, it didnt worked
>>724285180consoles are not for me, I like being able to switch between controller and mouse and play old games at high res/framerates. plus I'm not paying for online.modern consoles have surprisingly bad backwards compatibility.
>>724303378>More like keeps playing new games while your console is obsolete.I don't have to scrimp and save for every upgrade. I don't need to use a PC or console as a family heirloom to pass down to my kids. My PC or console won't get obsolete because I'll have the new one. >No. I'm stating all of the usecases of PCI know the use cases of PC. We're discussing gaming. >Because you entered a console vs PC thread and started arguing in favor of console.explain why you have a low spec PC and take part in console threads talking as if you have a good PC?>I'm not missing anything.You have no idea. >Again. Purely in graphics."pc is better in performance - but it doesn't count" lol retard >100% in all other areas.like not gaming?>Not yet they don't.another future "what if" from the clown without a point >Yes, and you're letting that library dictate your purchase decisions because you've already SUNK money into it.Because I want to play those games still. Why do you think you can talk for me?>Really? I had no idea. >>"And on ps6 when it no longer supports physical games? Or even has a subscription just to turn on?"you sure seem to think you know all about it
>>724287298>pajeet sweat dropsyou have been exposed sarr
>>724285180I do and it was the biggest waste of money. They don't sell as fast s you'd think, I put it on offerup and facebook market like 3 months ago and receive nothing but low ball offers. Honestly playstation just sucks.
>>724303714I sold a recording studio
>>724304252>I don't have to scrimp and save for every upgradeNeither do I. I'm also not gonna throw away money on an upgrade if my current setup runs the games I want with acceptable graphics and performance. That's the thing with PC, you have options. On console if you want to run newer games, you have to buy the newer console. If you want better graphics, there's no console you can buy.>We're discussing gaming. Correct. And for that, PC has multiple usecases from extremely low end 2D games to current gen games at max graphics, including specs comparable to console in between.>explain why you have a low spec PC and take part in console threads talking as if you have a good PC?A 3060ti is a good PC. It's comparable to base ps5 and only slightly weaker than the pro. And again, even the weakest PC wins over console in everything other than graphics. I've said this like 10 times but you just go>but muh grafeex tho>You have no ideaMaybe. I'm happy with my setup. It's certainly better than dealing with the limitations of console.>pc is better in performance - but it doesn't countTry understanding what I said next time. I didn't say graphics don't count, just that they're not everything.>like not gaming? No, like gaming with kbm, controller, or literally anything you want, and being able to set any button to any action in game, or mods, or being able to finetune graphics and performance beyond upscaled 720p at 30fps vs upscaled 360p at 60fps like on console.>another future "what if"Maybe, but "if" this happens, PC will be fine while your console won't.>Because I want to play those games still.On PC, you can switch to a different store or piracy and keep playing your old games. If you want to switch to xbox (kek) or PC, you have to also keep your ps5 next to your tv.>you sure seem to think you know all about itYou can't extrapolate sonys future behavior from their past behavior? They've obviously been phasing out physical games during this gen.
>>724285246fpbpconsoles are for low T men, non-whites, & women.
I have a slim. The ps5 convinced me to want to go to pc.
>>724285246
>>724305287>Neither do I. I'm also not gonna throw away money on an upgrade if my current setup runs the games I want with acceptable graphics and performance. It has bad performance though, which you know and that's why you said you're going to upgrade. >That's the thing with PC, you have options. On console if you want to run newer games, you have to buy the newer console. If you want better graphics, there's no console you can buy.Yes you buy the console to run the games. Like the way you buy the new PC parts to run the new games. >A 3060ti is a good PC. It's comparable to base ps5 and only slightly weaker than the pro. And again, even the weakest PC wins over console in everything other than graphics. I've said this like 10 times but you just goit isn't a good pc. It's a very low end PC. So why are you in a console thread?>just that they're not everything.You've spent the day saying that games on PC are better than console. The games are identical other than graphics. So now it's not that important , mr flip-flop. Can you not have a consistent point?>or being able to finetune graphics and performance beyond upscaled 720p at 30fps vs upscaled 360p at 60fps like on console.But you can't. Your PC is running lower performance than a Pro console. I thought it didn't matter anyway? > If you want to switch to xbox (kek) or PC, you have to also keep your ps5 next to your tv.My console and PC are next to the TV. Why would I want to move them someplace else?>You can't extrapolate sonys future behavior from their past behavior?No. You can't dream up scenarios and use them as an argument. That's just retarded
>>724304605>I put it on offerup and facebook market like 3 months ago and receive nothing but low ball offers.what did you put it up for?
But I have two, both with disc drives and expanded storage...
>>724307542"PS5 console. will exchange for sex with your dad or $200 and a box of cigs"
>>724304605only retards buy used hardware
>>724307435>It has bad performance thoughIt's good enough for me for now. I'll upgrade later.>Like the way you buy the new PC parts to run the new games.Except you don't have to. On PC you can easily hold out for a couple years with old gen parts by lowering settings. You can't lower settings on console.>It's a very low end PCIn that case the base ps5 (comparable to 2070) is also very low end and ps5 pro (comparable to 4060) is low end.>So why are you in a console thread?Trying to help the consoletards see the light of PC. Seems they're too mindbroken to see it though.>The games are identical other than graphicsPatently false. Mods and better input methods improve games. I don't understand how you don't get this.>Your PC is running lower performance than a Pro consoleI didn't mean beyond as in running better, but as in you have more indepth options.>I thought it didn't matter anywayI have never said graphics don't matter, just that other things matter too, and arguably more.>Why would I want to move them someplace elseBecause they take up space and you have to buy a new box and then your old games again if you want to play them on the new box.>No. You can't dream up scenarios and use them as an argument. That's just retardedFine. In that case I never want to see you consoletards claim that you don't own games on PC because Valve can take them away or whatever. Deal?
>>724308061>You can't lower settings on console.yes you can. consoles have modes performance vs image quality. >In that case the base ps5 (comparable to 2070) is also very low end and ps5 pro (comparable to 4060) is low end.but it isn't a PC it's a console. Those PCs are bottom of the range for PC gaming. The Pro is the top of the range for console gaming. Mr "performance doesn't matter , I'll keep my 3060 for another decade" >Trying to help the consoletards see the light of PC. Seems they're too mindbroken to see it though.by being retarded, lying and not having a consistent point? You're here in console threads because you think you can punch down on a console. You can't. A console is better than your PC. >Patently false. Mods and better input methods improve games. I don't understand how you don't get this.no they don't. Mods are irrelevant. Why do you need different input methods? Do you have a different controller for each game or something?>I have never said graphics don't matter, just that other things matter too, and arguably more.the first thing you said is "performance" , what did you mean if it didn't mean graphics?>Because they take up space does momsy tell you to put your toys back in the box when you're not using them? lol >Fine. In that case I never want to see you consoletards claim that you don't own games on PC because Valve can take them away or whatever. Deal?how can I speak for other people, some of whom are just as retarded as you are. You own a licence to play the game on PC. You cannot sell the game. You don't own it.
>>724285180costs too much money before the addon on disc drive then on top of that you have to pay a subscription for it to be useful and all that is before you buy a single game. don't even get me started on the controllers that are made to last about a year. consoles are just a money drain altogether
>>724308387>yes you can.Not to the point where you can run next gen games like you can on PC, because they don't even get ported to last gen.>performance doesn't matterNever said that.>I'll keep my 3060 for another decadeI'll most likely upgrade in the next 3ish years.>not having a consistent point?Where? Any "flip-flopping" I've done has been to highlight that PC is more flexible than console.>A console is better than your PCAgain, only in pure power, and only slightly. My PC is better overall.>Mods are irrelevantIt's fine if you don't care for them, but they're not irrelevant by any means.>Why do you need different input methodsMaybe I don't, but there's more options for people who want them. That's objectively nothing but a positive.>the first thing you said is "performance" , what did you mean if it didn't mean graphics? What? Are you talking about the first thing I said in my first post, which was more powerful? I just said that because it's the most obvious advantage PC has over consoles.>does momsy tell you to put your toys backNope. I'd just rather not have too many boxes that do the same thing but worse when I can just have 1.>You cannot sell the gameAgain, I don't need to sell games. You can't mod your games or back them up. At best, neither of us owns our games.
>>724309002>Not to the point where you can run next gen games like you can on PC, because they don't even get ported to last gen.I can play PS4 games. You have no idea what you're on about.>Never said that.> performance aren't everything.you are close to saying that. >I'll most likely upgrade in the next 3ish years.I'll have a PS6 and 6090 then>Again, only in pure power, and only slightly. My PC is better overall.yes, for playing games at higher quality. A console is better than your PC>What? >More powerful, more flexible, cheaper in the long run, mods, more freedom, you can actually own your games, among other things.Each of your points you have shifted your opinion numerous times, lied and backtracked on. >You can't mod your games or back them up. I used to make mods. Why can't I?
Je ne sais pas pourquoi ce prétentieux morceau de merde dit qu'il joue à des jeux vidéo alors qu'il passe clairement tout son temps libre à se disputer sur 4chan.
I swear this is just one retard using a bot to reply to himself for hours.
>>724309960nobody is real on this board
>>724309453>I can play PS4 gamesThat's not what I was talking about. Can you play ps5 games on your ps4? Ps6 on ps5? Because I'll be able to do that with ps5 equivalent hardware for a few years after ps6 comes out.>you are close to saying thatDoesn't matter is not the same as isn't everything.>I'll have a PS6 and 6090 thenGood for you. Still don't get why you'll get a console when your PC can do everything it can, but sure.>yes, for playing games at higher quality. A console is better than your PC Yes. If that's all you care about.>Each of your points you have shifted your opinion numerous times, lied and backtracked on.Where? Far as I can tell, I've been consistent about saying that PC is better in those aspects.>Why can't I?Well, you can on your PC, not on your console.
>>724285246Pcück will own nothing
>>724285180I own every console. But I play on PC most of the time. Just because you own something doesn't mean you have to use it.
>>724310485>Because I'll be able to do that with ps5 equivalent hardware for a few years after ps6 comes out.I don't have to make do with stupid shit like this, I'll buy a new console if I want to play games on it. >Doesn't matter is not the same as isn't everythingok. go back and tell me what your point meant. > Still don't get why you'll get a console when your PC can do everything it can, but sure.because I don't have to run things passed you, I don't need to explain what I spend money on to random people on the internet. >Yes. If that's all you care about.That is what the thread is about isn't it?>Where? Far as I can tell, I've been consistent about saying that PC is better in those aspects.every single point. >Well, you can on your PC, not on your console.If I don't wish to do it on PC why would I wish to do it on console? Why are you in a console thread?
>>724309453>I can play PS4 games. You have no idea what you're on about. Majority of them are still 1080/30/low/motion blur etc on PS5. Only a select few normie AAA games got a 60fps boost.
>>724311238What is this majority that you speak of? Bloodborne is really the only example
>>724285246Came here to post this
>>724300030its unified memory, all shared between all components, between gpu/cpu The pro just adds slower DDR which is dedicated to the system alone, potentially freeing up 2GB for teh GPU.Then again the here posted vanilla 4070 has at minimum 12GB for it alone, later version all had 16 GB.But its also slow with a peak bandwidth of only 448 GB/s and that shared, the lowest 4070s had 504 GB/s all for itself, later version were 670 GB/s.
>>724311320Yes, and they have stated that 13.7gb of those 16 are dedicated to gaming. So more than a vanilla 4070.
>>724311293Then you don't play many games. Nearly all the PS4 games are 30fps on PS5.
>>724311943Like what? That picture literally shows a random games performance.
>>724285180consoles are not powerful
>>724311164>I don't have to make do with stupid shit like thisAgain, neither do I, but it's an option on PC.>go back and tell me what your point meantWhich point? The one I've made 50 times about performance not being everything?>because I don't have to run things passed youSure, that's fine. I don't really need it explained either, just can't see the thought process behind it.>That is what the thread is about isn't it? Eh, maybe the OP, but it's since become a general PC vs console thread. Plus, a top tier PC is still more powerful than any console.>every single point. Uh huh.>If I don't wish to do it on PC why would I wish to do it on console?In that case, why have a PC?>Why are you in a console thread?OP was pretty clearlytrying to provoke a PC vs console thread.
>>724310661More than on your drmbox.
>>724312292A ps5 pro is the most powerful gaming device in the world. PCs don’t count because they’re experimental and unreliable. A console is the only legitimate way to play something that engineers have put together diligently and is the worldwide standard.
>>724312203Nearly all of them? Every game on this list and its not even complete. https://www.backwards-compatible.com/search/?q=&compatible=&unpatch=&vr=&exclusive=&improved=&ps5update=&issues=&hdr=&supersampling=&dualsense=&raytracing=&res=&fps=1028&genre=&developer=&publisher=RDR2BloodborneGrabity Rush 2DetriotMad MaxSleeping DogsAssassins Creed Ezio games (all the rest of the games pre origins)KCD 1Drive ClubResident Evil 1 remakeCrash trilogyAlien IsolationEvil Within 1Far Cry 3/4Dishonored 1/2Watch Dogs 1/2Spyro trilogyMafia Definitive EditionMiddle Earth Shadow of Mordor/WarDarksiders 3All Need for Speed gamesYakuza 6Batman gamesJust Cause 3Preyjust to name a few.
>>724312615For what it’s worth, call of duty and Fortnite are 60fps on ps4. That’s largely what people play too probably
>>724292276Yea but a PC can be used for anything especially playing old games that will never ever come to PS5. Your PS5 will be only good for playing PS5 titles that are better on PC. A PS4 was a much better investment.
>>724285180I got Ryzen 5800x3d, Rx 9070 xt and 32GB of 3200MHz RAM. I'm good, I don't need a system with no games
>>724285180I've already got a PC with a 5080. I see some of the anti-PC posts in this thread, and they're clearly retarded. I can mod the fuck outta all my games, pirate if I need to, and have full graphical options I can mess with. Plus I have access to plenty of other eras of Vidya through emulation.If Snoy wanted to retain me as a customer, then they should have kept fully functioning backwards comparability for PS1/2 and 3. Instead they took that away and made gay paid online. Fuck that.PC + Steamdeck master race
>>724313139Oh yeah and I also got a dualsense controller and possibility to play all the games that PS5 has in it's library
>>724294868I think what that anon means is that if sony's service is down you are stuck with the disc version but if steam goes down you can still download cracked versions of games with patches most of the time. That's the only way I can make sense of it.
>>724310661How is your console any different? Anyway, GOG and piracy are legitimate options for me lol.
>>724285180>>724285246Pcs are general purpose machines. Plus I can pirate on it.
>>724312615>Alien Isolation locked at 30fpsThat's hilarious. On any modern computer you can get over 150+ fps easy
>>724312490retard
>>724313384I’m correct though. Hate all you want.>>724313367Pc won’t even be getting any fps in gta 6 in may though
>>724285180coz my PC is as powerful as a PS7 whenever that shit comes out in 7+ yrs
>>724313524Yeah but I haven't played a GTA game since 4, and don't plan on changing that. PC will get 6 later on anyway?
>>724313524>B-B-B-BUT GTAAAAAAAAAGTAVI will be released on PC and on Switch 2 just to spite your snoyroach ass.
>>724313620It’s not about if you care about it. It’s the fact that pc can’t run it
>>724292363Pipe down, roach.
>>724313657It can run it though lol. You just have a period of timed exclusivity - which goes away after about a year or two. It'll also run it better than PS5 can.
>>724313657How can you run a game that hasn't been released yet? Let alone that there has been so much radio silence from Rockstar along the fact that they're still hiring people that it's solidifying the rumor that GTAVI will be delayed until the end of 2026.
>>724313759>>724313816Pc can’t run it in 2026 though
>>724302894>coper's nexus
>>724285246you own a PC, but zero games because everything you do requires you to login to some valve / ea / ubisoft / etc server to work
>>724313857When it's gonna take GTA7 15 years to succeed 6, I don't think waiting an extra year or two will matter. Even then - I couldn't care less about GTA since I'm not a nigger or hispanic, so not a loss for me lol.
>>724313857PCs at Rockstar are running the development build right now.
>>724298392>. I got 32 GB of DDR5considering the ps4 had GDDR5 this is hilariously pathetic, PC master race your only 15 years out of date.
>>724313957>>724314004Pc as a platform doesn’t get it. Therefore, they’re incapable.Spending a lot on a pc just to have to wait even longer than console people who you seemingly look down upon is humiliating
>>724285180i wipe my ass with ps5s
>>724313906You've just explained how a console works.
>>724313367it also ran at like 20fps on PS4 whilst the equivalent GPU (7850/7870) did 1080/60 easily. Thanks to the potato CPU in the PS4.
>>724314078Imagine being hyped for normie slop at 30fps. You gonna pick up the next Horizon game too?
>>724285180I have one. It's only really worth it if you didn't already have a base PS5 and want to play specific games at their best that run like dogshit on PC because no one is able to port games correctly nowadays. I prefer my PC and imo from a hardware perspective the money would have better been spent upgrading that if the value of GPUs at the time wasn't terrible.
>>724314078>Spending a lot on a pc just to have to waitUnlike snoys, I have games to play while I wait, meanwhile the only game you have left for an entire year is the Waiting Game.
>>724314042GDDR5 is not DDR5 you tech illiterate snoygroid ape
>>724314486If 30fps is bad then what does that make pc? It can’t even get 30fps in 2026 on gta 6.>>724314663What do you have that would even amount to gta 6? Ps5 also gets every major popular game that pc does
>>724313885this doesn't show what you think it does my low iq snoygger friend
The fuck is the point of this thread? None of you will change anyone's mind. Many of you aren't even genuine.
>>724313906I can do more with pirated or gog purchased games than you can with your cucksole disk. You're going to bring up selling it, but I don't give a shit about that.
>>724314758I just won't play a game if it's 30fps unless it's some PS1 fixed camera game, simple.
>>724314758>every major popular game that pc doesnice tarkov, cs2, lol, wow you got there kek
>>724315102Garbage infested with cheaters. Definitely not anywhere close to major or popular.
>>724314881The same snoy who loves to antagonize everyone has been doing these kind of threads for weeks, where his only arguments against PC is that it's full of hackers, it's expensive and it doesn't have GTAIV, every single time. I asked at the very start of the thread to be convinced on why I should spend money on a PS5 when I already have a PC, but the snoy is incapable of providing a real answer and instead just deflects and keeps backpedaling to GTAVI like it's some sort of accomplishment that they're getting the most overhyped game of the decade which, mind you, is also a multiplatform.Granted, you're right, I won't change my mind about the PS5 being an absolute failure of a console only carried by the brand because we have 5 whole years of evidence on SIE's complete incompetence and lack of interest on making me want to join their ecosystem.
I barely play my base mode PS5, no reason getting a Pro.
>>724315445It’s not that complicated. Either get one because you like ease of use couch gaming, or don’t if you want to be a contrarian who is sold on fake numbers that the pc cattle fall for every time. Simple.
>>724315702>or don’t if you want to be a contrarian who is sold on fake numbersIronic.
>>724315907Previously unreported year gets shown off for 30th anniversary, big deal.
>>724285246See you on YouTube.com and Twitch.TV on May 26th
>>724315702>fake numbersmodern consoles are built on fake numbers retardyou don't have 4k, you have upscaling from 720p
>>724316272That’s what pc does, but is more expensive though
PS3 was the only console worth owning. I'd say Steam Deck but that's more PC than it is console already.
>>724315702>Couch gamingAlready have a steam deck, but also a HTPC with a 9070xt to accomplish that. All synced with my computer with 5 terrabytes of emulated stuff plus my steam lmao
>>724316335you consoloids have deluded yourself into believing that pc runs games like shit because you don't understand what upscaling is and why no one will take you seriously if you bring up 720p benchmarks like what consoles run
>>724316335>there are morons who somehow actually believe this.
>>724285180Guess what. Come 2027 you'll owe Sony another £1000. And for what? Black Spiderman? Ghost Of Ya'llGay? Last Of Us ReReRemastered? No thank you
>>724287978And? PS5 doesn't play it any better.
>>724316074it's funny to see consolecucks so brainwashed that they're hedging their bets on yet another entry of this utterly mediocre franchise after rockstar was famously transformed into a cuckold company
>>724285180I doand it's shit
>>724305397is this true?
>>724316335
>>724291597Yes. People building PC now for up to 10 years of lifespan.
>>724285180Because my PC is more powerful and this machine has no exclusives.
There's maybe a couple of PS5 games I would like to play, but going out to buy one feels too troublesome.
consolecucks are really struggling to understand the current paradigm where their boxes are so unremarkable their sole purpose is being for high time preference retards
>>724317372Like what
>>724312696>game console>investmentlol thirdies
>>724291340give me a compelling argument to why you bought your budget shitbox computer
>>724285180the air in my room is already reasonably humid so i don't need one.
>>724316272>you don't have 4k, you have upscaling from 720plol lol lol you don't even have a 4k screen attached to your PC
>>724316874and I can run CP2077 benchmark where AMD 7900xtx scores 3fps and a 4090 scores 30fps is a 4090 the power of 10x 7900xtx?
>>724320705lol lol lol you're rendering at 720p
>>724321118lol lol lol no I'm not
>>724321201yes, you are
>>724316074whats on may 26?
>>724320591>budget shitbox computerBut enough about the PS5
>>724320705>nooo you can't use a hdmi cable to connect to your 4k tv
>>724285180show me the games
>>724321331*in this one game
>>724321331the worst part about this is the base ps5 uses fsr2. fsr2/3 looks like dogshit even in the best case scenario (quality mode 1440 to 4k).
>>724321591>connewell do you?
>>724321812all ue5 games run at like 720-840p on ps5. some like silent hill f drop to 360p.
>>724321924and they all run like shit or don't run at all on your PC do you have a point?
>>724321812>one game
>>724321853yes>>724321974cope
>>724285246Dollar for dollar the ps5 pro is more powerful than any PC
>>724321974pc plays more games than a tiny slice of modern slop and you actually own the hardware instead of it being a pure drm box?if you spend $1k on a pc that'll perform like a ps5 pro and it'll be upgradable to the ps6 pro level next year
>>724322095how come you didn't show the GPU?
>>724322253>buy a PC for $1k what are you. poor?
>>724287173These posts are funny considering Playstation is the most popular in India by far.
Why would you even buy a PS5 when Sony is already porting all their shit to PC? Even Nintendo is getting Sony IPs like Patapon as well.
>>724322041>Dynamic ~720p down to ~360pHow in the everloving fuck is this even acceptable in 2025?
>>724322308we're going by the consolecuck framing$1k is the target for a ps5 pro tier pc that's also upgradable to ps6 pro specsyou could strip $200 off that tag if you don't want upgradability
>>724322095Show the GPU. You can't chop the image off there. What are you hiding?
>>724322410it's still $1k for a PC. that's like an emachine
>>724322581and it's got better hardware than any consolethat's literally the point, not to be exceptional, just matching itit's proof that console hardware doesn't even hold its value and is artificially inflated by timed exclusivity and technological illiteracy
>>724322737but it's a bad PC. Why would you say to buy a low end PC? Are you in a cult where everyone must have a PC even if it's a bad one?
>>724322839but it's better than every single console, can be built for not much more than it and has a path for future upgrades?you can stick a 6090 and 11800x3d into it down the line
>>724322271>>724322524stop moving the goalposts. >nooo you don't use a 4k tv with your pc was the original argument. now that's failed you'll nitpick.
>>724323128No you can't don't lie you moron. Buying a $1k pc and then putting as 6090 in you fucking idiot. The PSU alone will cost half of your PC budget. Retards like you talking shit are the problem.
>>724323230>I will now create a drama than not post the full imagepost the GPU. why are you hiding the GPU?
He has a 3060ti that's why he won't post the image.
How powerful is the 3060 12gb compared to ps5?
>>724323379I'll let you wonder what it is. I have an LG OLED TV and a 3rd gen QD OLED monitor ;)
>>724323623it's lower than the bottom tier on this chart
>>724323725Oh it's that retard with the 1440p screen who pretends it's better than a 4k one
>>724323330have you ever built a pc before? a 1000w psu is nowhere near as expensive as your schizo ramblings suggest
>>724324110yes. You clearly haven't if you think throwing a 1kw PSU with a 5090 will be fine.
>>724324149are you running a full system benchmark at all times? are you too stupid to undervolt?
>>724323914what is?
>>724324264>just buy a 1kw psu and undervolt it so it doesn't burn out. listen to yourself you silly runt.
>>724324321what fucking game are you playing that makes your combined system power draw higher than 900w? do you think nvidia is going to stick a second 16 pin on their cards?
>>724324445it doesn't matter what game I'm playing. You buy a PSU for the whole system not a PSU which is struggling with the PSU and might overload if a CPU hog game runs. You retards did your "babies first PC build" a year ago and now think you're some elite PC tech. You don't have a fucking clue
>>724324445>do you think nvidia is going to stick a second 16 pin on their cards?that is the leak , yes. 800w power draw
>>724324570again, what fucking workload are you running where you consume more than 900w and REFUSE to do basic 10 minute power tuning?
>>724324686GPUs create transient spikes when running games as it switches between different loads. The actual safe power supply rating is double the GPU load minimum. 1kw PSU with a 600-800w GPU. Just fuck off you stupid cunt
>>724324787power supplies are built around transient spikes you dumbass
>>724324839>just plug your $3k GPU into some $100 chink 1000w gold special edition with free sweets and stickers retard
>>724324921i accept your concessionhttps://edc.intel.com/content/www/us/en/design/ipla/software-development-platforms/client/platforms/alder-lake-desktop/atx-version-3-0-multi-rail-desktop-platform-power-supply-design-guide/2.0/psu-power-excursion/
>>724285180>ProNot worth when PS6 is soon
>>724325081>doubling down on his retarded take of 1kw PSU with a 5090-6090"why is my PSU fan running 100% all the time and why is my power cable melting" lol
>>724285180From what I can find on google, it's barely faster than the ancient 2080ti I bought on ebay for ~$200.Consoles only make sense when they're cheap.
PCs are only as good as their owners ;^)
>>724325134You won’t need the ps6 until like 3 years after release with the ps5 pro future proofing you
I do and it's fantastic on my 32" monitor with studio headphones.
>>724325081
>>724325240what world are you living in where you insist on running your pc at 100% performance and refuse to do basic tuningwhy are you such a tech illiterate moron that you choose to have the card consume 100w more for no reason
>>724325563>You should use a 1000w PSU with a 800w GPU>why are you such a tech illiterate moronwhat a huge retard you are
>>724325560bravo anon you managed to read what was written on your tablet.
>>724325659>you need a 2000w psu because headcanon and schizo scenario
>>724285180Heard this shit makes games look worse
I have the Slim regular PS5. If I could trade it in and get the pro for like 200 Europe bucks I probably would. But its insanely expensive. I think its like 900 euro or something. I cant be bothered paying that much for something which I will rarely use. I only played 2 games this year, KCD2 and Expedition 33 and last year all I played was FF7 Rebirth and SH2 Remake. I think the only games I want to play next year are Pragmata, Resident Evil 9, Onimusha and Wolverine and all of them will probably run ok on the regular PS5.
>>724326238You don't like PiSSeR?
You would be silly to get a ps5 pro now when the PS6 will probably be out in 2027.
>>724325659now read out the 12vhpwr power rating spec and tell me why you're choosing to trust that one to handle transients but not your power supply
>>724292935>using a snoy tv in current yeartheir TVs suck desu.
>>724285180>no disc drive>all the upgrades will be there, and better on the PS6I didn't buy a PS4pro and that was clearly the correct choice and I'm not gonna buy this
>>724305397autists can be low t though so what happens then?
I find it surprising that FF16 was never added to Ps Plus.
modern consoles seem bizarrely expensive for their shit tier output. Like old consoles were cheap so it was fine but modern consoles are all very expensive but for what exactly??
>>724286134Unfathomably based.
>>724327429inflation adjustment also you were a kiddoesn't help that modern consoles can be directly mapped to their x86 desktop hardware equivalents
>>724285180Because the games that have pro support are notoriously broken, mostly 3rd parties but even some 1st parties.Look at SH2 and MGS Delta, their Pro modes are legitimately worse than the “normal” performance or quality modes with disastrously fucked up lighting.First parties like Spodermen just combine elements from performance and quality but there’s barely an improvement. Other quality modes have framerate caps unless patched out, so you’re literally getting the same experience as the base 99% of the time.
>>724327765Adjust for wages
>>724326761>6090 rumoured to be 800w from 2x 12vhpwr>running off a 1kw PSU which doesn't have enough connectors you are a retard. just stop posting you dumb twat
im done with consoles, i had a snes, n64, gamecube, wii u, switch, ps1, ps2, ps3, ps4, ps5; now that nintendo has no games worth buying a switch 2 for and sony went full american, im just gonna purchase licenses to play from gaben
>>724328358the 5090 was also rumored to use 2x16 pinsis this really what you're going to stake your retarded argument on?
>>724328773what argument. You don't have a 5090 and you won't be getting a 6090. You're living in some fantasy where you have a clue on computers advising others the most stupid shit I've read today. congrats anon
>>724285180Anything worth playing, which is already a very limited subset, comes to PC. Why fucking bother?
How is Mark Cerny so talented?
>>724328865>power draw will keep going up foreverretard
>>724328993you advised on a $1000 PC which you can just "throw a 6090 in" , you're wrong. We both know you're wrong. Why are you doubling down like a huge faggot?
>>724329082did a 4090 consume more power than a 3090ti?do you understand what a node shrink or a die size limit is? clearly fucking not lmao
>>724329183Yes it did. My 4090 consumed 450w. My 3090ti was around 350w. What does this have to do with a GPU which is going to use 600-800w?
>>724329234>Yes it did. My 4090 consumed 450w. My 3090ti was around 350w.???what fucking world are you living in where that's true?>What does this have to do with a GPU which is going to use 600-800w?and you're basing that on actual rumors lmaowhat about those rumors that say nvidia is settling for a much shittier node than amd? are those true as well?
>>724285180I got PS4 Pro because it was the same price as base PS4 on launch and a reasonable mid-gen upgradeWho was this made for? It's almost twice the price of launch day PS5 and the games apparently can look even worse with more aggressive upscaling to 4K
>>724330313People that want the best performance and people who aren’t poor
>>724323950If your PC is capable of framerates over 120,then the 1440p monitor can be better lol.
>>724330657But Playstation is the most popular in third world shitholes like India.
>>724285180i own a solid PC, 5090 + 9950x3D and an OLED monitor.however, i've been finding that playing single-player games has been kinda tiring at my desk, and always wish i could move upstairs to my bed or couch and play on the TV.i could make a second computer to hook up to my TV permanently, and play games on it from my bed or couch, though i also like the idea of having a console again. at the moment, i don't think a PS5 Pro can handle games like Alan Wake 2 and such at good fps with 4k graphics, though i'll be eyeing the PS6, and see if it's a decent enough upgrade or if it'd be better to just build a second PC to put permanently next to my TV
>>724285180>>724285246PS4 and PS5 are x86OG Xbox is x86, Xbox 360 is PowerPC, Xbox One is x86 Xbox has always been a Windows PC
>>724286204They still have to get games to run on the Series S. It will be fine.
>>724333351Improve your chair game.
>>724329761
>approaching 500 replies of pure seethingsony won
>>724336968If Sony wasn't winning then there'd be no seething
>>724336968>approaching 500 replies of pure samefagging
>>724337909>I keep coping by repeating to myself "it's the same person doing this.." over and over
