Enough of the bullshit. Which MMORPG is the best?World of warcraftGuild wars 2FFXIV>Inb4nogoodmmorpgs
>>724287441Wizard101
Final Fantasy XIRape Mithra, Plap Mithra, Impregnate Mithra.
>>724287441Sherwood dungeon
They're all actually shit games
>>724287441anything besides this shit
>>724287738that's actually sad. i liked pso2 a lot
>>724287738what's wrong with it
>>724287441>Inb4nogoodmmorpgsYou know it to be true. There's nothing worth playing at the moment unless you want to wallow in nostalgia with some classic/old school/whatever version of a game you played decades ago.
wow classic = GW2 from 2012-2017 > current retail WoW > FFXIV But if you asked me what I want to experience the most again it would be all the WvW shenanigans in GW2. Seafarer's Rest represent.
>>724287441>gameplay GW2>storyXIV (it's still shit)>monetizationGW2 by far>open world world building WoW>class designXIV>faggy social shitXIV>fur shitWoW>PvP (lol)GW2 barely>muh raiding endgameXIV
>>724287501fpbp
Play wow classic (private server), final fantasy XI (retail or private server) or guild wars 1. Disregard all modern MMO slop.
>>724287441which is the best currently? osrsnothing will take away from wow it being the genre defining game though
>>724287441Final Fantasy better music. WoW used to be number one but they have changed so much they turned it into unrecognizable shit. GW2 was shit from the get go
>>724288163>>open world world building >WoWit's gw2 bwo>>muh raiding endgame>XIVit's retail bwo
Anyone wanna try that new Chicom MMO that's come out in 2 weeks with me?
>>724287441WoW by far.>best teamplay>most varied gameplay between classes>most varied gameplay in world that involves playing your class>least amount of busywork>actual PvP
>>724287441runescape clears
the best mmorpg in my opinion is nexustk between 1999 and 2001
>>724288761What game?
Currently available through an official provider? OSRSClassic+ WoW private servers would be the best MMO if Epoch didn't shit the bed.FF14 had a two or three year period where it was good around heavensward but it's been shit for a long long time. WoW hasn't been good since WotLK and even wrath was when it started to get shitty. Classic Maplestory has the potential to be good but it's almost coming until mid 2026 at the earliest. Every kind of modern attempt at an MMO has been fucking dog shit. Bring back WildStar.
>>724289870I forgot:GW2 was good in beta and was fun around release. Doesn't feel worth actually playing though and it got dumb the last time I looked at it again. MMOs are best when there is progression that matters and lasts for a long time.Grinding for gear upgrades is good when they matter and can last for long periods of time (vanilla WoW). Grinding for permanent character progress like OSRS skills means your time investment matters and it's still there if you leave and come back. Grinding for cosmetics is a fine side thing but is not a worthwhile main gameplay incentive (modern wow, GW2, FF14)
>>724289212Runescape gets points for rolling back their pride event this year. I half entertained the idea of playing OSRS because of it. Their discord is still filled with woke weirdos though.
>>724289074Everything about world of warcraft is completely ruined by -- and i'm not joking --:>Transgender Angels>Transgender dragons>Gay frogs>Gay centaurs>Floating magic wheelchairs
>>724287441Is Vanilla WoW worth getting into in current year? I kind of want to see what it was that got people obsessed with it, and to be a part of a gaming community.
>>724290720I'd strongly encourage you to play turtlewow instead. It has the same feel and experience as classic wow, but new content is being added all the time (That somehow doesn't break the feel of classic), and most importantly, you're not giving Blizzard any money to fund their LGBTQ stuff.
>>724287441Mmos are vidya for women.Get your gay chat room shit out of here
>>724290482Transgender angels? Gay centaurs? Magic wheelchairs? This is a joke, right?
>>724292019WoW has been lame and gay for a long time now
>>724287934it used to be online dmcthen they added an mmo open world to quest in. it was a huge waste of money and annoying as fuck to playthe actual game part is still very good though
>>724289368Probably Where Winds Meet. Based on the earlier test gameplay I got a chance to experience, it's pretty "decent". It's not really an MMO though.
Out of those three? WoW, just barely.Every? If it survived longer, Star Wars Galaxies.Most influential? Runescape.My own personal favorite for the dumbest fun? Fantasy Earth Zero.
>>724290720No. The magic of the era is gone, and so is the community, which are needed for a really good MMO experience.
>>724292019that's retailGenerally for WoW it's more like this because the versions have such different conditions around them and how the community was in the erasActual Vanilla WoW and its early expansions (2004-2009) > Pserver WoW (depends on the server) > Retail (post-Wrath) > Classic WoW > Retail (post-MoP)
>>724294640oh and current Retail is a notch below post-MoP retail just cause after Legion they clearly had no idea what the fuck they wanted to do and they'd killed off practically all the big lore hooks made up by Warcraft 3.
>>724287441Wow, and it is not even a competition. Five seconds of just running the character around, feeling the fluidity of animation and responsiveness of the character would be enough to not look at other two.
>>724287441Bronzebeard Private Server right now is the one that is the best WoW can possibly be. Classic world with QoL and sense of wonder.
Maplestory has some really fun boss fights, shame it takes too long for most people to get there.
WoW mogs the rest, it's not even close>gw2What special ed class do you retards crawl out of? Guild Wars 1 is infinitely better than 2.>XIVLmao, genuinely one of the worst "mmos" I've played, enjoy the perma lag courtesy of japanese network coding
>>724287441The harsh truth is that every single one of these games is dead because they're MMOsThat's why you needed to create a bait thread
>>724287441>xivtried to give it a fair shake but its not what i like nor is it an mmorpg>gw2of the three i know the least about this one but it is utter dogshit and i hope the devs/pub burn in hell>wowplayed back in the day, no nostalgia but if you're looking for the most mmo like experience between these 3 r any other current, classic, specifically anni is about the closest you can get so I go with that one
>>724290720generally only worthwhile if you can find a decent private server because Blizzard sucks at maintaining classic and barely even entertains the idea of Classic+Blizzard is also currently wanting to be a bit litigious against them, but since Pservers are free you can basically just test them in an afternoon if you've got nothing to do and see if you like it. I had enough of a fun time to waste hours while remotely connecting from work when where was nothing to do, got to like level 48 on TurtleWoW just mostly leveling and only really interacting with the players I ran into while avoiding guilds and stuff.
>>724295130>Guild Wars 1 is infinitely betterBoring ass slog of a game. Fight this pack of enemies over and over the whole zone/level while running back and forth. Mix and match abilities is overrated fake and gay bs too, they barely add variety, most are turn on and forget buffs. Controlling party is annoying, it's like SC1 where you need to wrangle tards. Game is not an MMO too, it's a single player old rpg with optional coop. Original campaign is incredibly dated and was boring back in the day too desu. EotN is only somewhat engaging expansion. PvP is the only legit good thing about the game.
>>724290720when they did new servers for the anniversary and it was full I played it for the first time and had tons of fun, im not sure if people are still doing lower level dungeons and levelling but if you get a chance to play classic wow with an active population i would recommend it
>>724287441GW1Vanilla WoWFFXI
>>724287441In terms of actual gameplay and content, it is still retail WoW for some reason. In terms of adventuring through a world, vanilla-wrath WoW and ESO.Free my nigga Wildstar.
>20 years old>still somehow improving constantly>peak playerbase is right nowkneel
>>724296463I never really understood what you do in this game. All the memes are about grinding random skill in 1 spot. Is there combat, can I be a wizard?
>>724295693Extremely based and most correct answer ITT
>>724296615You would be surprised how hard combat can be in osrs.
>>724290720Anniversary servers (Vanilla) are still full and had no problem finding randos to team up with for quests and dungeons.
Maplestory.
>>724287441New world unironically, even with all the jank
>>724296615The combat might be the hardest in any mmo (which isn't saying a whole lot but still)Here's some regular bosses that the average player is expected to farm 1000 times: https://youtu.be/cZs-q0CDqnQ?si=Eolr0QILDC-sN7Df&t=670https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4oDt-twzz8Here's the peak of what people can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OTrZ6pfI1Ehttps://youtu.be/rX2UXHB_KoE?si=N558g4IX8EjkT7YaThe peak is a big reason people like it so much, they keep a lot of the old spaghetti code jank in the game on purpose so that people can push the game to the limitsEven the "stand around chopping tree" can be done in high APM ways because of the jank
>>724287934Open world ruined everything. The original PSO is still the best in the series. PSO2 was ok but power crept into rush spam making combat practically useless since bosses died in 2 seconds, which removed any form of fun combat and just became a loot collection game. New Genesis had some good ideas but piss poor execution which killed the game entirely. Also didn't help it took them 8 years to even release PSO2 outside japan.
unironically OSRSNot even nostalgia for me, i started playing this year for the first time
>>724287441Dragon Quest XFinal Fantasy 11
>>724296463Saying it's peak player base is honestly basically lying. Everyone knows a massive percentage of the population is bots or people playing for money in some way
>>724287441STAR WARS: Galaxies
FF14 is just tranny paradise now, the game is dead as fuck
>>724290720Gonna 2nd turtlewow. Been having a blast with the new zones/dungeons and the tweaks they've made to the talent trees makes every tree viable.
>>724287441osrs
>>724297808They did a massive ban wave recently hitting most bots and any recent gold buyers. Playerbase dropped about 20%? but its still incredibly high because of all the wow refugees. A lot of the bots recently were because of the increase in player count in the first place increasing the demand for bought gold. Still peak outside of leagues launches
>>724287441>Guild wars 2i'm getting real tired of your pathetic attempts at shilling this woke garbage
>>724295207Yeah, you tell 'em trans sis!
>>724287441Ultima Online, Runescape, Maple Story and Final Fantasy XIModern MMO games are just single player games, they are predecessor for gacha games which are literal to-do lists.>>724297460DQX looks fun, haven't played it though
>>724290720yes vanilla is genuinely just a good gameanniversary will switch to tbc i na few months idk if you should care
What is the superior Korean MMO
>>724299220Maplestory, it's not even close.
>>724287441MMORPGs in general are pretty shit. I've played tons of them over the years and I did have fun, but I could never tolerate them for more than a month.That said, I think Lord of the Rings online, Final Fantasy XIV and World of Warcraft, in that order, were the most fun.
WoW in Ascension's Bronzebeard server is the king of MMO's currently. Nobody has ever gone toe to toe with World of Warcraft because it was designed by the most competent people of the world before it went gay and woke.
>>724299662>unironically playing a game that killed mmos
>>724295207Aren't you the guy who's obssesed with big black male Roegadyns? Is that the only reason you still play FFXIV after Yawnfail?https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/roegadyn/
>>724292019>This is a joke, right?I'm afraid not... World of Warcraft became a woke joke.
RememberI own you
FF11
>>724287441Guild Wars 2 because it's the only good mmo that respects your time
>>724287441None of the above. That's an easy answer.
GW2 has the best mounts, dodging and other movement based skills spoiled me any other MMO that doesn't have it, radiant heart quests with multiple contribution ways beat "talk to npc to get fetch quest" every time, and it has the best QOL stuff.Sure, people will bitch about the writing, but where is that not the case?
>>724301424You didn't answer the question, there is currently over 4000 results in the archives of you talking about your fetish for Roegadyn BBC, it's time to admit you have a problem Vizex.>I own youThe only one who is "owned" is you, who are clearly so owned by Square Enix that you continue to pay a sub to play Dawntrail, you are a completely buckbroken, a slave to Yoshida's maze forever. You will never quit this game, you will be the last person playing when the day it reaches EOS.
>>724287441Been playing gw2 for a couple months, its ok. Got bored of it so im taking a break.
>>724287441Every MMO is trash.
WoW Midnight will save the genre.Classes are finally fun to play again.Buttons actually do something and are fun to press
>>724302225>buttons>pluralkek who needs that when the 1 button rotation exists sis?
>>724288163>monetization>GW2The most p2w game on that list?
>immediately proves me rightSee you next thread janny
>>724302432That's a pretty cool effect, I wonder how it was done
>>724302338How is gw2 p2w?
>>724302338The fuck? What exactly is pay to win in GW2? It's all cosmetics and qol and you can buy gems with in game gold, which you can so easy that you will never really have to buy with real money.
>>724287441They're all shit. GW1 and FFXI are good though
>>724296615It's an idle game. You 'play' RS while doing something else 99.9% of the time. You can't even PVP in it anymore since it's 100% bot ruled.
>>724302338Honestly GW2 doesn't monetize enough. They could get away with so much more but they don't which is good for players.You can buy literally everything with Gems which you can just buy with in-game gold.
>>724302543MMOs are exchanging time for things.QoL/bag space/storage, QoL or pay for convenience is pay 2 win in MMOs. Being able to buy gems with in game gold makes it worse - because that means there's legal and encouraged gold buying, through selling gems for gold on the market. Gold buying is directly P2W you fucking retards.
>>724287441I have over 5k hours on all of them, here's the indisputable MMO enjoyer tierlist as of right now:OSRS >> WoW (retail/classic) > FFXIV >>> GW2
>>724287501My nigga
>>724305237video games exchange time for fun. period. if some people have a mental illness that makes them want to pay money to skip through a game they don't actually enjoy, that doesn't affect you. this is not what p2w means you melodramatic tranny, they don't win anything, nobody cares what they have. do you?
>>724305237No one unironically buys gold with money.It's so piss easy to get gold in playing casual that you don't even have to buy gems with real money.Also, you're an utter retard if you equate convenience with pay to win.
>>724288163>>gameplay >GW2ehhh
>>724305765Incorrect. MMOs are about sharing a world in an even playing field. And that playing field is dedication and skill.If you can get the Greatsword of Eternal Buttfucking by either grinding for 3000 hours or by spending 3 hours and $1000 then its value is greatly diminished.MMOs are all about seeing someone wearing something cool and knowing that person put in great effort to get it. As soon as that's muddied by "convenience" and "pay to skip" then all meaning is lost.Convenience is like affirmative action; you cannot tell if someone really achieved a thing or they cheated their way to it.
>>724287501BasedBut unforunately, the correct answer is puzzle pirates
>>724305552OSRS is a single player game run entirely by bots and 3rd worldersif youre defending it I assume youre the latter
WoW by far really perfected the RP part of MMORPG. No other game really makes you feel like you're part of a big fantasy world like WoW.It is really sad however that they jewed the fuck out of it by selling out. Of course the corpo kikes dumped trannies into the team the first chance they got and now all the fantasy feel is gone.
>>724308251lolWoW has almost 0 RP mechanics. The closest it got was unironically shadowlands where covenant choice mattered and people had nonstop meltdowns about itIn every other expansion, including vanilla, you at best picked alliance or horde once at character creation and are totally on the rails after that. 0 agency, 0 reactivity and 0 sense of mattering in the world
>>724287441>wants to discuss MMORPGs>lists troon simulatorsOy vey.
>>724308032OSRS is literally the least brown list on here faggot
>>724288163>storySWTOR FTFY^
>>724308640>slavs>whitelol
>>724302338That's not the game with the limited time $90 mount that gave players auction house and mail access anywhere.And the players were so desperate to get one that they drained the economy of wow tokens.
"Tolkien" fantasy always just works too. WoW's simple graphics always made me feel more immersed than any other MMO.>>724308528Do you even know what RP means?
>>724308835there is no RP if the world doesnt acknowledge your existence
GREETINGS, PEASANTS
>>724308835Oh yeah, that reminds me Lord of the Rings Online is giving away a large chunk of the game.The game old but it's got a lot to explore. Usually to be able to do quests in each zone you need to buy them with the shop token. You can earn the token doing achievement deeds clearing one zones quests along with some grinding can get you enough for the next zone but for the time being you can use the code to permanently unlock them.
Play Secret World LegendsIt's spooky season and it's free
>>724308640>Runescape has absolute zero presence in FranceHuh I wouldn't have expected it, I would understand it being low, but this nonexistant? What's the lore?
>>724291134Turtlewow is a tranny server with micro transactions dumbfuck
>>724308251WoW was the most widely immersive at the time of vanilla but it had about 0 rp bundled into it and rode entirely on wc3 familiarity and normalfags being wowed by first mmo that didn't look hideously fucking ugly. Everything that came before it (UO, EQ, AO) and a lot that comes after (Matrix, SWG, Ryzom) had more rp mechanics injected directly into gameplay loop than WoW ever did.
>>724309157Don't listen to this flaming fucking faggot and play TSW proper, not castrated relaunch version. Goddamn i hate funcom so fucking much with how absolutely shit they are at supporting fucking anything.
>>724287441Lineage 2 Chronicle 4/thread
>>724309342I prefer SWL because it plays like a TPS instead of Tab-targeting
>>724308878>>724309209The world did change. The interactions with people in it specifically did change and the feats you could achieve changed. WoW's social aspect was insane, and I consider it part of the game. Even if it wasn't directly "gamefied" the role you played in the world mattered more than any other game I've played.The worst thing they did is start to focus the world around the player during cata. Now everyone was a special super ultra hero.
>>724309467You do know you can literally play it as tps in old TSW too? There is an action camera mode, which is exact same shit as in TSWL.
>>724287441I have played all 3 of these. You can, too. There is no reason to pick one. Try them all. See what clicks. Don't be one of those faggots that can't think for themselves. Playing FFXIV right now in the background. But not because I think it's the best. It's just what I feel like this month.
>>724309567Nice if this is trueWoW isnt a notably social game considering literally everything is easy to pug without saying a word> the role you played in the world matteredIt didnt actually, at all. Vanilla wow was the epitome of just carrying around warm bodies and not actually caring about the other players
>>724287441At launch WoW was the best and GW2 was the worst, nowadays GW2 is the best one because they dropped almost all of the vanilla game shit unfortunately the game is still held back by its core profession design.
>>724288163>>fur shit>WoWThis nigga never went to Ul'dah on Faerie late at night.
>>724310847>held back by its core profession designbut enough about WoW
Only thing FFXIV does good right now is offer the absolute best immersion and emote expression for your character. It is completely unmatched by other MMOs right now
>>724310847I played GW2 for a few months about a decade ago. Life happened, though, so I had to stop. I remember thoroughly enjoying it, though. I should go load it up again.
>>724310950Having spent years upon years in both WoW and FFXIV, I would say FFXIV's biggest strength is also WoW's biggest weakness - Community. Holy fuck the WoW community is so terrible. And the FFXIV one is just top notch. Everyone is so friendly, helpful, and welcoming. It's very chill.
>>724311081I got the impression that WoW is sort of designed for intercommunal hostility. Everything from the ever-present risk of ninja-looting in dungeons to getting treasure chests swiped from under you while you're fighting the mobs to get to it. Unless they fixed that shit. I haven't played in forever. But it really does lead to this atmosphere of anxiousness and competition even among your allies. That's probably what causes that shit community. FFXIV doesn't have those issues.
>>724288163>>gameplay >GW2lol>class design>XIVlol>PvP (lol)>GW2 barelyHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA>muh raiding endgame>XIVHAHAHAHHAAI know you're baiting and intentionally not putting WoW in these categories, but really?
>>724290482>Manufactured outrageLiterally nobody cares, nobody remembers these literal who quest NPCS
metin2
>>724287441FFXI
>>724308640Poland, Turkiye and maybe Czech and Hungary are metin2 countries, you would have seen it had you included that search in your chart
>>724292019Anon... I'm so sorry...
>>724287441ff14 and wow are LITERALLY the same game
>>724287441>xiv is filled with cheaters amd trannies>gw2 is full of furries and trannies>wow is full of retards and tranniesWhich way, white man?
>>724309187whats your point though, so is retail wow
