>zombie nu-platinum actually made the best action game of the year I'm genuinely surprised they actually pulled it off
They knew they couldnt fuck this one up so they actually put effort in, ironically a NG actually made by Team Ninja would probably have been way worse because they've become a conveyor belt studio
What am I doing wrong? Give me a mob of 3-4 Oni and I'm getting fucked up.
>>724288820I'd buy something like Nioh without a stamina system tho
>>724287881Inaba is still the head of PlatinumGames and he's a producer on basically every game they ever made, as well as things like DMC, Viewtiful Joe and God Hand while he was at Capcom
>>724289217Go ahead.
>>724289550Jack's game seriously has no stamina management bullshit? Cool, I actually already have the game on my wishlist
>>724287881What else do you think of in terms of action games this year? NG4 team did a great job, but they're still lucky Id Software utterly flubbed every aspect of Doom Dark Ages. Borderlands is a looter shooter, AC and Yotei are open world. It would've been in contention either way.Just a reminder tho, Hades 2 has gotten a good bit of astroturfing and the first game won best action game over Nioh 2.
>>724289772>caring about the goy awardsThey lost me a decade ago when they gave goty to bitcher 3 over bloodborne
first runthrough is enjoyable but thinkin of replayin this shit feels daunting
>>724287881This gives me hope. I want to see a DMC by Platinum but since Kamiya got back with Capcom, that might be even more unlikely than NG5.
>>724290586Its actually way better on New Game+ because you're fully upgraded and prepared and you can just ignore collectables and story shit and speed through the game
Can you change the enemy type in the training room? Which ones are available?
>>724290907are missions/purgatory sections counted towards the ranking though?
they need to make it so pausing doesn't count down the timer.i turned my fuckin xbox off for the night and i ended up having a mission take 12 hours.
Someone last thread asked how to beat trial 10 (the time limit with no ki/blood recharge). >Pick Ryu, 3 slot damage charm + whatever else, I don't think it matters>Flying swallow towards the ogre and hit him with heavy attacks a bit while the others mob around you>Use wind blades to delimb everything, you had to hit the ogre a few times because if you didn't he might not delimb here>OT everything, the clock stops while you're in the animation >When everything in wave one is dead, one missile captain spawns and one van gelf spawns; charge a full UT using he orbs dropped from phase one and UT the van gelf. The clock still goes down during UT>When the van gelf dies UT the missile captain. Even if it's just a blue UT he will delimb and you can OT.>Immediately enter berserk mode>Wait a moment to get the 3rd wave to crowd around you then trigger berserk again for the super (clock is paused during this animation)>If there's one guy left there should be time left for you to UT him.>Win
it's power bar slop and they even raped ryu with ki resource
>>724291063Purgs are explicitly stated not to. Idk about missions
>>724291246theres trials? that like a post game thing?
>>724291257>noooo dont force me to have to pay attention and manage game mechanicsNG4 is exposing a lot of so called "hardcore" gamers
>>724291361Yes. There's boss replays which if you clear on any difficulty you unlock the dark dragon sword useable in all missions for Yakumo. Then there are additional trials that give you extra items and ninja coin (not that you need it lol). The trials are easy at first but then they get crazy hard, harder than any level in the game.
>>724291517word im still on chapter 17. just kinda slowly takin my time playing. i dont know if ryu is busted for these missions or i got better.these levels are exhausting as fuck though.
>>724287881there are literally no other non-shit action games this year so that means nothing.and it's such a bad cringe insult to the ninja gaiden IP that it doesn't matter.It's like DmC. maybe a decent action game but it's such a bad DMC game and it's so insulting to the fans that its crimes far outweigh its good points.
>>724289643normal attacks are freethere's a guard meter and specials cost mpthe guard meter is separate for each job so just switch jobs when it's low
>>724291583i mean specifically the rest of the levels pre-ryu. something about them with yakumo is exhausting and its probably why i expect another runthrough on hard to be the same.does higher difficulties at least change up enemy placements?
>>724291612>bad cringe insultIt's as good as NG2. Way less insulting than Yaiba or NG3.
>>724287881honestly we dont have enough character action games a year for me to complain.im playin zzz so i cant really say anything but it definitely keeps me somewhat entertained.
>>724291612you fucking Ninja gaiden autists really seem to hate every game. even your own
>>724291583Ryu is just that strong. He hits like a truck, especially in true dragon sword mode which is way easier to get bloodbath kills with than Yakumo. I find he delimbs with normal attacks more often but maybe I'm wrong. His ninpo are also super powerful way better than anything Yakumo's got.
>>724291758honestly i forgot about the ninpo all of chapter 16 and if anything im using the birdsgod damn yeah he's pretty strong.
>>724289217This but leave stamina and take out the diablo loot.
>>724289232Yeah but Inaba is why they're in a fucked spot.
>>724287881......only for it to flop and sell like 10k copies. Nobody wants to play actual videogames anymore.
>>724291648I haven't gotten that deep into my NG+ run and I started on Hard and moved to Master but the enemies are at least the upgraded variants on chapter 1. There are also new items that unlock some kind of encounters and that convert ninja coin to weapon XP and vice versa so you can max out your skills and then go back to farming for heals.
>>724291693it's a game that sidelines Ryu and while Ryu in NG2 has 9 weapons and shitloads of strings, grabs, mixups ect.NG4 ryu has fucking nothing. he's been ported badly, only has the dragon sword and even that has been botched and feels like cheap garbage.The game doesn't even have proper sword trails. they did them the cheapest way with the lame circular texture that goes in-front of the blade swish.
>tfw no hagbrat priestess gf
>have to play yakumo againleast its not dmc5 levels of character swapping holy fuck that shit was gay aids
>>724291393it's an action game. only cooldown for an ability should be recovery frames.
>>724291632Interesting. I hope I can blow my money on games and hookers again
>>724292607DMC5 dante is in the game for about 40% which is really bad, the existence of V makes that game even worse.NG4 Ryu is in the game for about 15% and he's completely gutted, the most low effort iteration by far. which I find unforgivable.and while character swapping is gay aids.. so is Yakumo getting all the screen time and being thrown in your face.
>>724291393I hope platinum remakes Ninja Gaiden 04 and adds in a dizziness meter that goes up every time ryu performs izuna drop and if he's too dizzy you cant do izuna drop and have to wait for the meter to go down.
>>724293035Fucking kek
>>724293035>ninja gayden fans are this terrified of the idea of actually having to use the game's full movesets instead of just spamming the same moves over and overThey unironically should put that in
>>724293035that would improve the game a lot
>>724293540Ironic considering NG4 retains less than 10% of the moveset it should have if it preserved the best mechanics form the other 3.Like Ryus rotate shuriken throw was a good move. was there a reason to remove that? nope just laziness in not wanting to port stuff over.Ryus weapons?.. gone due to laziness.Aiming? gone due to laziness.context state movesets? removed due to laziness.you get the idea.
we need an option to just have checkpoints at shrines for fuck sake
>>724293868>NG1-3 doesnt have Gleam modeLaziness
>>724293929Gleam mode is shit. it's a garbage platinum gimmick.Platinum are so lazy and devoid of work ethic it just reuses animations from ryus true dragon UT.I would happily have that shallow garbage removed to have all the missing moves back.
i really hate how rushed the ryu levels feel. i already looked up how many chapters there are and its like wow, im about to stop having fun soon.
>>724293895Worse yet is that if you change your charm load out before going into a boss fight but after a checkpoint, your load out will not be saved when you retry
>>724293868NG2 removed the kino adventure elements, also accessories and kick moves. Peak lazy.
I wonder why discourse of the game becomes so much more negative here during SEA hours.
Dodge offset feels weird. Are you supposed to even use it? I didn't play much of Bayonetta but iirc the big use for it there was to quickly get to wicked weaves but I can't seem to do that in this game.pic unrelated
>>724294205and NG4 didn't add them back either.2 added way more than it removed. NG4 removed far more than it added.
>>724294259it doesn't work well here because most combos end after Y in this. the only time it seems useful is in the middle of a basic dual swords yakumo blood thing
>>724294301>2 added way more than it removed. No it didnt. Unfinished meme game
2 removed kick strings. Dogshit ass game.
>>724293540if the player wants to be lame they should have the freedom to do so. platinum understands this partly since they added in hero mode and you can item spam. but they are misguided in thinking this design philosophy doesnt apply to gameplay itself.
>>724294259in bayo getting to combo enders was important.ninja gaiden doesn't base it's gameplay around combo enders so dodge offset doesn't make sense here. but that's what platinum do they botch and remove very important fundamentals while recycling a bunch of garbage from their other games that is unimportant at best and detrimental at worst.
>>724294386if 2 is unfinished than 4 is a black project.
feels like shit having to go back to playin yakumo. no wonder why everything pre ryu was a fuckin drag, hes just "complex" for no reason and a weak bitch.like 3/4 of the weapons function the same so the swapping is stupid and pointless
>>724294315Oh yeah I guess that was how it worked in that, just zigzagging between buttons. I just got the random bullshit weapon and the bomb ender is cool, but I can't figure out how to get to it quick. The other finisher I like is the 2kat bloodraven X string, but again with the way chain link works I can't really just skip to that.
>>724294540NG4 brought back accessories and kick moves, therefore NG4 > NG2
>>724287881>zombie nu-platinum actually made the best action game of the yearWhat is the competition for this genre this year?
>Do all the bosses for the dark dragon sword >Try the first boss on MN>He 2 taps youSo that is how it's going to be
>>724294567yeah the box is good. dodge offset is pretty much less complicated in this i believe, in bayo you had to also hold the attack button you end your combo on before dodgingbut like other anon said, combos in bayo ended usually with wicked weave attacks and its why you wanted to have offset so you can finish the long ass combo strings with them. this though? yeah most combo enders are not important or special enough to worry about it.
>>724291748Where does this snobbery even come from?I've played the original Ninja Gaidens. They're pretty good NES games, sure. It's just a game about a Ninja though.The 3D series seems to have one game that people actually like.What is this legacy that is supposedly being ruined by a good Platinum game?
>>724294614no they didn't ryu doesn't have them.
>>724294882It's amazing how consistently the people who hate this game out themselves as having never played it.
THE DRILL RAPIER SUCKS
>>724294474Dodge offset is actually really powerful in 4.
>MN isn't its own playthrough, it's just a NG+ modeI was having fun on hard but they lost me here. It's clear that MN isn't designed for a fresh save file. They did the same thing in MGR, but that game was more manageable, so I don't know why I'm surprised.
>>724294956It's good for single target damage and it's bloodraven attacks carry you a great distance. I use it a lot for bosses because of the multihit too.
>>724294956honestly, they all kinda stink aside from the box.the rapier jsut lets you zip around more on enemies. giga drill breakers deal a shit ton of damage if you have openingsthe staff just is there to rape fish but has a stupid skill required with timing the slams.the box is the only thing that offers anything more like fuckin explosions and a raping range attack on top of it and crowd control.
>>724294956I love the Drill. Sickest weapon easily.
>>724292607You have to play yakumo again for one level and then you basically sort of get to play as ryu again LMAO
>>724295124The early game of higher difficulty NG playthroughs when you had zero upgrades was always just annoying to me, I prefer it to be designed around New Game+
>>724295124Putting so many moves behind weapon experience really puts me off, so I am somewhat okay with this. But yeah there was probably a better solution.
just got to ryu, he feels alot like yakumo to me but with less options. but im a scrub so can any pros explain please
>>724289217Nioh barely has Stamina if you know what you're doing desu
>>724295305I don't know about 2 but I thought it was cool you'd start with early weapons in black master ninja and some other stuff would be placed earlier tooSo you still have progression but it's accelerated
why is tyran being shy?
>>724295471NGB has some of the most greatest higher difficulties of any video game ever, the amount of changes and new stuff is nuts. 2 and the rest arent nearly as good in that departement sadly
>>724295728Yeah. Have to remember that it's basically the super polished director's cut version of a game that already released and had dlcs though. Not many games have the opportunity to do that
>>724289772Beyond Citadel was the best FPS this year, Zoom can't even close
>>724294921show ryus kick combo from 1 appearing in 4.
>>724289772>first game won best action game over Nioh 2.Lol
>great fiend boss>constantly dodging like a spaz>command grab move>ng2 boss music
Honestly they shouldn't have pandered to nostalgiafags by making Ryu playable, Yakumo is better protagonist and new face of the franchise
Think we will get an artbook?
>>724287881I downloaded ninja gaiden black. never played any of them before. not playing this tranny game
>>724296232This game is based full of big titty bitches.
All complaints about UT spam would be solved if enemies could just randomly absorb them on the field to do 5 second long invuln super moves. Thank you based boss ryu for planting the seed
>>724296232>>724296285I will get it on deepp deep deep deep deep discount when all the content is there. in the mean time I have a whole series to play if I like it. admittedly idk why I called it a tranny game btu I fucking hate the yellow paint and I'd imagine that spills over into other areas
just going to give yakumo another weapon and i am thinkin, what purpose does literally any weapon serve at this point? shit i think playin ryu its like, why the fuck we need all these weapons?
>>724296176funny that NG4 "support" is almost entirely Ironic bait like this.
>>724296448The yellow paint never goes away and there's not much exploration so the yellow paint is even dumber. Honestly if they just make an NG5 or NG4:B with more Ryu and accompanying weapons while adding some to Yakumo (also change his design or add more costumes) then we have the best of every world here. As it stands being able to replay the levels as Ryu is a bit of a cope because all the levels are meant for Yakumo. I give the game a solid 7.5/10. One last small complaint is stop having characters talk over the music I want to listen while playing damnit.
>>724296512True. Yakumo looks better with the other costumes (not the red one).
>>724296613I hate the trend so much. I hate how everything has to be homogenized now even terrible techniques and mechanics and movement. it's all so goddamn tiring. that being said, is blath the first ninja gaiden I should start with? I picked up a lot of them
>>724296462that was what I thought playing through the games
I really really like how distressed Umi sounds when I die
>>724296847This did quite a bit to endear the cast to me. They just sound so sad.
>>724296763other than the box theres just no point
>>724296176
>play as a hip new character>old character shows up once in awhile>sexy demon lady boss>angry dog boss>old character boss>blue amphibian boss>weeaboo pandora's box>one handed dude in white armor boss>big weapon demon who was pretending to be human boss>you are now playing as old character>"Ryu you must go through the three places you already went a few hours ago"man
>die in one hit
>>724297404Those trials are insane. Sadistic fucking devs, I'm still trying to beat the final boss with constantly respawning adds (the play here is unsurprisingly just to spam UTs from the mook essences onto the boss)
he cool
alright just beat the game and ill saythe game loses steam like a few missions before you play ryuthe ryu levels felt so just plastered on for no reason.the levels were just, dogshit all around. the only memorable ones were really just, the first level honestly.and i dont like how jap buttrock the vocals get for the music. good riffs get ruined by the faggy nonsense. it does not have anything on MGR music
>>724297556I had a way easier time just aggressively hunting down the boss and ignoring the small fry as best I could.
>>724297567I can't tell if I'm impressed or disappointed that he's not cringe
>Ryu's inferno melts boss HP barsWhat the fuck that makes the trials way easier
>>724297648>he's not cringeyou have autism.
>>724298013Nah he's cool.
>>724297608and buttrock with faggy emo vocals doesn't belong in NG. did they even listen to the OSTs of 1 & 2? this is platinum slop and nothing more.
>>724298013I was expecting Shadow the Hedgeheg but the only thing he did/said that came close was pic related. Surprisingly friendly fella with his team too.
>>724296232Enjoy, NGB is a lot of fun. You have it on Xbox or you emulating?
>>724298095the vocals just kill it so bad. the writing was on the walls at the very first samurai boss phase 2 and its like oh no, please dont do this shit for the rest of the game.i can barely even fuckin hear it too and i even turned down everything but the music
>>724295421Ryu's ninpo makes him way stronger than Yakumo and his alt attacks are just more reliable.
I like the rail surfing
>>724298114xemu for the winnn
>>724296749Black is the first game you should go with if you have the chance. The versions of NG that most people recommend for the full experience is NG:Black or Sigma 1 if you can't play Black, NG2 vanilla and if you can't play that version then maaaaybe play Ninja Gaiden 2 Black with the White mod installed, NG3: Razor's Edge. Most NG fans are really just upset that NG2 vanilla is trapped on Xbox 360 although Microsoft was kind enough to update NG2 to have 60fps support on Xbox One and Xbox Series. There is one more Ninja Gaiden game and it's Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword for the DS. Dragon Sword is actually pretty awesome for a DS hack n' slash if you ask me.
>have to beat the retarded final boss to use the blade again for that difficultyAAAAAAAH WHY
I've been playing a bunch of NG2 dragon sword survival and comparing Y counter and X counter. Getting heaps of utility out of the Y counter, particularly when you get dogpiled by the dogs. Easy to fish for Y counters to clear the pack, but the X counter I haven't really found heaps of use for yet. The beyblade follow up has good delimb properties but kind of just leaves me in a bit of a pickle. Is there any useful tech you can do out of the X counter?Also you can't shuriken into a flying swallow out of gleaming blade, can you? I've got the shuriken flying swallow out of a wind path down pat but I haven't managed to do it out of a gleaming blade a single time.
The biggest fucking nitpick that is annoying me right now is that wind path is now automatic. Bitch I don't wanna jump on heads I just wanna do an OLUT. I suspect this game will start to blackpill me even more if I continue to bang my head against the trials
>the hardest boss in ninja gaiden 4 is not any of the demons, not any of the fiends, not any of the ninjas and samurais, but Shagohod from Metal Gear 3weird choice
Did you buy the deluxe?
>>724289643It's easily the best FF game since KHII, the story is great, the jap audio sells it, the class system is fun, the levels are fun, as is every weapon.
>dodge offset works across weapon switchesI don't know what to do with this information
>>724298731Fine as yakumo unless you choose not to use the obviously designated new ranged weaponHarder as ryu but at least you have ninpo
>>724298872I already paid 70 + tip I'm not doing that. Creampied the dlc and pretended they were unlockable costumes
>>724288820they didnt put effort in ryu KEK
>>724298467You can do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cueqYrAc48
>>724292607with vergil forma emo specially the part you re gutted of some of the summons
>>724298731armored core 6 average player build more like
>>724289643well you got mp but its not nioh autism
>>724291928gamepass doesnt matter price increase they re gonna soot their potential sells speciallly with games that can be beaten in a weekend
>>724298109What did Ayane do to make Yakumo act like this?
>>724298450No, you can clear the boss challenges on hero and still use it in MN
>>724299391posing and trying to grab his attention while he hunts the shark that eaten his priest waifu
>>724298648OLUTs are fucked in this game, particularly for Yakumo. The timing is busted
>>724298731Different strokes I guess, this was one of the easiest bosses IMO.
>>724299391Mock him while he was in a rush and probably more on edge than usual.
>>724299090Hm that looks moderately useful for avoiding the constant attacks. Thanks.
i am somehow missing 3 chests from the first fuckin chapter but how the fuck can that even happen
lol
Is Sigma with mods fine or should I go to the effort of setting up my xbox for OG Black
>>724287881It could be the best action game of the year and it'd still be fucking shit, we're not exactly getting good action games these days. Been quite a dreary year for them, really.
>>724300725Filtered.
>>724300360You don't need mods for sigma 1. It's sigma 2 that's fucked
>>724300267This game was invisible. Nobody was touching this thing, even though the usually suspects shilled it
>>724299090>>724299880Hey yeah thats pretty handy thanks anon.A bitch to get the timing right but its basically a counter straight into a flying swallow if you're fast.
>>724298951Oh shit, really? This opens up some cool shitsOnce I get home, I'll see if air dodge also offsets and then shit will REALLY get crazy
Just finished my first playthrough on Hard tonight. Tried my hardest to keep items to a minimum but obviously that wasn't possible for me so about halfway I gave in and spammed items for the rest of the game. Why else are they giving me 500k coins?That fucking fish boss in Chapter 18 killed me about 40 times.>Kino Ryu fight>Kino Dark Dragon fights with vocals>Kino credits music with Victor Borba songs (that I don't remember playing during the game, maybe one of them during the DD fight
The weapon upgrades are way too fucking expensive. Maybe it's because I'm on normal mode and you don't get enough xp, but I can't unlock shit.I just got the tool weapon, and I barely managed 5 upgrades to the staff while leaving the rapier to the side. Only have 9 upgrades in the sword too.
>>724289217here you go
>>724301375NG always encouraged item usage. It's only in this game they penalized it because fucking platinum has a boner for that. But then, items used to be much scarcer and you weren't a billionaire able to buy full revives at every checkpoint.
>>724301375Beautiful.>>724301479>items used to be much scarcer and you weren't a billionaire able to buy full revives at every checkpointYea I was trying to be scarce like old NG but I get buttfucked a lot more in this game.
>>724301419You're supposed to do the hell gates. Im only at the flying tengu dog boss and both rapier and swords are completely unlocked for me.
this game feels like sekiro
>>724300360xemu its playable unless you re so autitic about true hardware and shiet
>>724301584I did all the gates on -45% and didnt get nearly enough. Maybe if you do them on the highest setting.
>>724301659Ive been doing them on the highest yeah.
>>724301479>It's only in this game they penalized it because fucking platinum has a boner for that.They don't anymore. Astral Chain didn't penalize you at all for using them and even this game still lets you use a few before it starts affecting your score.
>>724301826What did he mean by this
>game has been pushing my shit in on hard>20 hours in and I only just got to RyuIn other games I would've been done at the 15h mark (according to Steam) but at the same time it doesn't feel like this is as hard as the ones before. I don't think I've gotten pissed off at anything yet which is weird considering how long its taken me to get past certain sections.
>>724300267One of those is me and that's all that matters.
>>724301902I don't think the game is easier than the ones before, at least not significantly, but it certainly feels more fair.
>>724301902At some point you'll want to start setting up essence UTs for all the big enemies. It's basically necessary.
>>724291246just did it this way, thanks
>>724287881>no sexualized hot big titty ninja girlsNo thanks
>>724302548Ayane is literally in the game
>>724291693>It's as good as NG2.This post convinced me that all the people that praises this game are fucking secondaries. You people are delusional and I'm glad this shitty imitation of Ninja Gaiden flopped.
>>724302649But you can't play as her mod when
It also flopped hard, in classic Platinum fashion
>>724288910Are you using the hard lock on? Don't do that.
>>724301857most annoying enemy in the game
>>724287881I'm pleased, game's fun. Gives me hope for an Astral Chain 2.
>>72430280510 times more player count than Godfall and bankrolled by Bill Gates, it's not a stretch to say this is one of the more successful titles they've put out in recent years
>>724303134This was astral chain 2. I don't know what's in store for Platinum's future. Phil funded this game but the poor sales don't help. Maybe KT has plans for them later.
>>724303214this has no relation to AC besides a vaguely futuristic cityNintendo has kept going to them for games despite none of them selling amazingly, pretty conceivable it could happen again if Nintendo wants to fill a gap in their library. Gonna hope they bought the AC IP for a reason.
>>724296285fully clothed shibari isn't saying much, that's the most Microsoft (publisher would allow). Hero Shooter costume Ayane sucks too.glad it flopped.
>>724303214>This was astral chain 2.It has too much actual gameplay to be that. People are complaining about the railgrinding but that's nothing compared to the beginning of nearly every level being 20 minutes of investigation crap.>Phil funded this game but the poor sales don't helpThat's his own fault for not marketing it. Instead they're already focusing on the Halo demake.
>>724302805all they had to do to avoid this was make ryu the main character and port in all his weapons and combos.just put some fucking effort in.
>>724303684literally 95% of the work was already done for them by Team Ninja.all they had to do was bring it over and they were too fucking lazy to even do that right.
>Kagachi fight>Yakumo: "I made a promise to Seori!!">all the stuff afterwardswhat a pansy
I'm not a fan of nu-Platinum's aestheticEverything's gigantic and plasticky and colorful. There's toy-like quality to everything that's inherently kinda lame.If you look at the Bayo weapons you'll see the gradual change.
It's funny that they did so much to make this widely accessible and then didn't advertise it at all so the only people looking at it are the most critical of fans who will rip it to shreds the second it doesn't live up to their expectations as unrealistic as they are. Naming this Ninja Gaiden was a bad decision considering the legacy and psychotic fan base. It's a pretty good game all things considered, certainly better than Bayonetta or MGRR but this isn't a FromSoft game where fans will suck it off and do the advertising for you, you have to actively fight and suppress them or giving bad press to your game.
The visual design of the game is so monotone I have trouble seeing what's going on. I actually went into the menu to color-code each enemy type so I can keep track of them on screen. They should have made a bloodied/delimbed marker as well since I can't tell with some of the non-human enemy types in the dark lighting if some of the stages.
>>724301707Technically you are "penalized" upon using one item because you get 1.2x for using 0.
>>724303848>Everything's gigantic and plasticky and colorful. There's toy-like quality to everything that's inherently kinda lame.That's Marathon anon.
>>724303848Yeah Bayo 3 had those lame looking white enemies and NG4 has the same sort of design but they look even more like toys.the blood and gore in NG2 looked so good but in NG4 it looks horrible. it doesn't even look like you're slicing up people with rel flesh.. it just looks like jelly is coming out of the shitty plastic toys you fight. it looks really cheap.this is definitely the worst enemy design and it doesn't help that the lighting is trash.
>>724302804I don't think Ayane even has an in-game model, she only appears in 2 cutscenes.
>>724304019I can pretty easily tell when a cutscene is prerendered since I'm playing at a very high framerate and resolution and Ayane cutscenes are in engine.
>>724303858Should've just called it Ninja Biden and gotten 5 million meme sales
>>724287881you can thank Team Ninja for that.
>>724303684Delusional.
As good as god hand or no?
>724304124>AI slopper>Political out of no whereCan we move on from 2016 some day?
I fucking hate the on-rails and stupid half-baked platforming shit. NGB and NG2 didn't need that, neither does this one. Why is Yakumo a skinny sissy too btw? All men in Ninja Gaiden games are beefcakes except grandpa Murasame, he sticks out badly. Also hate the boner Platinum has for WhitexCyan colour schemes, They're shit.
>>724304019that's another reason this game doesn't deserve money.lazy pre-rendered mp4s that go all choppy. there's no reason any of these scenes shouldn't have run in-engine.just a ridiculous level of laziness and incompetence and it results in wasting extra gigabytes of mp4 stoage vs only a few megabytes of in engine cutscene data.
>>724302805NG4 deserved to flop. It's extremely mediocre
>>724304213Too true, ngb did not need swimming and puzzles and platforming
>>724304249except that stuff was good, classic DMC and Resident Evil type world exploration. The water mechanics should have returned in NG4 instead of just a badly coded surfboard mechanic and a re-skinned run animation for Ryu.
>>724304213Because he's a zoomer so hes based on a japanese zoomtard. Annoying cunt of a protagonist.OG Ryu was based on a GAWDBOOER and Hayate/Gaiden Ryu were based on CHADLEMILLENIALS.Why do you think the game is full of bisexual lights, shitty gameplay, executions QTEs all over the fucking place and all the time with no rest between them? Why do you think the combos are so fucking mediocre? Why do you think the gameplay is so fucking mediocre? Oh and lets not forget the safe enemies being just creatures or robots. Shit SUCKS
were the trials in older NGs as annoying as this one?
>>724304343>Why do you think the combos are so fucking mediocre?Because platinum don't know how to animate or make things feel good.they make cheap janky garbage with a distinct lack of quality.
>>724304124this is almost funny. I don't like Biden btw.
>>724304198
>>724304124Dimentia Biden unironically would be more likable than Yakumo.
>>724287881I hate the ugly art style
>>724304930the fuck is this? Who are you people? fighting style
>>724304340
>>724304908that's his ninpo.
>>724304249>>724304340That stuff is only bad in execution. A more fleshed out 3D movement system would have been amazing to have. As it stands, the "platforming" is just a glorified QTE sequence with nothing dynamic or interesting going for it.
>>724305207>he wants a real action adventure kino in 2025Lol! Expecting a little too much from modern developers aren't we darling?
>>724305207good exploration > minimal NG4 exploration > shitty NGB explorationBefore NG4 literally no one, not one person, EVER said the exploration was one of the things they like about NG. Just because you don't like the new thing doesn't mean you liked the old thing.
>>724305618tasteless faggot.Wall running and platforming in NGB felt really weighty, organic and well programed.Platforming in NG4 feels like janky scripted garbage.
>>724305694>canned animations, old :O>canned animations, new >:(lmao
>>724305618I first played an NG game with the PC releases, I don't have a dog in this race, I just want a good action adventure where the combat, movement, and level design are all good.
I have come to the conclusion that this is the hardest NG game. Items being so abundant reinforces that.
Wait what are these prompts on the screen for the entire game? lmaoooooooooooooo
>>724305618Anyone with a brain knows that NG started good and then turned into braindead musou lite while stripping everything else from the game. Stop defending a product just because it has a name attached to it. Stop. It just creates more slop.
>>724305778team ninja animations = good.platinum animations = bad.
>>724293035They did. It's the bloodied state in 3RE.
>>724302717If you think NGII deserves such high praise is proof you're delusional.
>>724306506higher praise than this low quality jank slop >>724304750
>>724305949just disable it in the options menu, retard
This game is ruining my life. I need to work on my portfolio.
>>724306705can't disable the yellow paint that's everywhere.this game was made for retards.
I haven't bought the OLUT skill yet and I'm wondering if the game will be more enjoyable if I just never do
>>724306769oh poor baby, if you want an exploration game that's not ng you should playalso show us your secrets completion, prove to me you're not a retard that doesn't need yellow paint
>>724289217nioh feels too light or something, like im swinging pool noodles at lightning speed while damage numbers fly everywhere and characters play fast canned death animations the whole thing just feels light
anyone knows what missions have DDO Goliath?
>>724292632damn I guess all the other ninja gaidens arent action games then as well since ninpo is on a meter and throwables are finite.
>>724306886You will pull your hair out if you don't have this skill, it's playing on nightmare mode
>hitting no lasers achievement in that room with 5+ enemies and lasers all aroundI don't even want to start doing this
>>724307991ninpo are bombs to clear screen with.
>>724307598DDO headquarters have all their enemy types I thinkSo mission 13? I'm not 100% but pretty sure that's the mission right before ryu missions
>>724306010So you're pining for something that was never really part of the series anyway?Anyway nips can't do good exploration especially in action games. Seriously when you think of games with good exploration do you think of Japanese games?
Does Ryu have a higher damage output than Yakumo? He just sliced through the fish into a fish kebab when it took me like 10 tries with Yakumo
What are the parameters on what we can agree someone is actually playing the game?- Disable Power Attack Telegraph (the black and white shading)- Disable Enemy Position indicator- Item use(?)Personally, I'm not against item use as the game already rewards/punishes you depending on quantity
>>724308913yeah he's way more op
>>724287881Bayonetta 3 was good too so it's no surprise
>>724304750i wonder if the guys from nier also did this one, if they did i would be dissapointed since they didnt even bother to make a block animation mid air
Is it true that MNM is so bullshit you have to basically cheat with charge UTs behind corners like a pussy?That would be lame as fuck. Game is fucking amazing but are we really leaving Black and 3RE as the only 2 games with a good MNM?
>>724309348not at all but you're obviously gonna need to do UTs
>>724309348>charge UTs behind corners like a pussy?That would be NGII
>Chapters 4 - 10This is just not very good.
>>724309642Tokyo = okRavine = assUnderworld = assNightclub = assDDO HQ = good
>>724309642I liked it.
>>724309131>Disable Power Attack Telegraphwhy would you do that?
>>724309131Don't do that because the audio ques are fucking trash in this game.
>>724289772Khazan I think should get a nomination, though even with me not finishing NG4 yet I would say it deserves it over Khazan.
DMCbros... some nobodies at Platinum outdid our game and made Action Game of the Decade...
>>724309642>>724309723Lanterns and dogs are just not fun to deal with
>thought Chariot would be a pain in the ass with the dual swords>it basically killed itself in the last phase by doing nothing but spamming the same easily parried charge attack>it didn't even once try to do the laser missile spam moveWish I had recorded that, it was pretty funny.>>724309723>Underworld = ass>Nightclub = assboth of those areas were cool.
>>724310019I like NG4 but Khazan is one of the all-time greats IMO
>>724304215For real, why do platinum still insist on pre-rendered cutscenes? They look awful and take extra space.
>>724310190Khazan is good, but in the end it's pretty much a Nioh clone. It's good by the virtue of Nioh being good and having a few improvements to the loot system here and there, but i feel NG4's breakneck pacing and constant stream of action alongside Yakumo's cool weapon mechanics kinda outweighs it.
>>724309723They really made an area full of zombies and fish...
>>724310190IDK. Khazan has some of the best boss battles mechanically I think I've played, at least amongst games of the same genre, and in comparison the NG4 bosses so far are very run-of-the-mill, but the standard enemies are a little more bland I think in Khazan, and that's the majority of the game.
>>724310327Why are the zombies bullet sponges
The Samurai Commander has been the best part of the game so far, about halfway through.
>finish Ryu's chapter and get back to Yakumo>forgot how to play as him and get my ass handed to me in the purgatory gateRyu spoiled me, he made kill shit so easy. Fuck those van helsing demon niggas.
>>724310056So? DMC and NG are the Dante and Vergil of action games. Always fighting but can't live apart. And i love both of them, no homo.
>>724310410I think ninja gaiden as a franchise always was more about normal enemies than bosses
>>724310664Don't worry you're about to go back to ryu gameplay very soon LOL
>>724296176Can you fuck off already?? Don’t you have some felonies to commit or something you shiteating retard??
>>724310479That's the point where I snapped and started UT spamming those guys. No I don't want to do a full string on every single fucking braindead zombie.
I like it but I suck dick. Couldn't even get past the first purgatory. Gonna keep at it though and try and get good. Pretty hard to do so when theirs builders right below my apartment that are spamming hammers and cutting saw :(
>>724309723you niggers have the most abysmally shit opinions conceivable. imagine thinking that that the disco shark areas are ass. just kill yourself man.
Is this game easy like ninja gaiden 2? I’mplaying 2 on hard right now and it’s so easy to cheese the game. You just spam jump and forward Y back and forth with the katana and you’ll decapitate everyone in seconds.
>>724287881I want to know why there is such a big overlap between action gamers and v posters as to keep these threads going nonstop for months on end. Especially with how niche the game is
Help me understand RyuHe only has two moves in Gleam?
>>724311378sir this is a microjeetsoft indian marketing thread
>>724294259I use it a lot. You can preserve your string even mid OT so XX(delimb), dodge offset, Y will give you the OT, you keep holding dodge, Y again, you get the XXY ender.You can also do a close to the ground air move if you dodge offset after having your air combo parried, so air XXX (enemy who was blocking parries) -> dodge offset -> hit the ground, dodge, Y will give you the Y from air XXXY but close to the ground to punish the enemy descending after parrying you.Also useful to get mid string blooraven moves without spending more meter than needed for that one move, or weapon switching without resetting the string.I made webms for some of these but I'm on mobile now and too lazy to search the archives.
>>724311378/v/core genre, this board has always loved DMC; God Hand, NG etc
>>724310479they delimb pretty easy with dual katana. it's bit of a troll to put them right after getting the staff. I spammed staff UTs to just bludgeon them to death but using katana and OTs would probably do better.
>>724311426name a single good non jeet game released recently
>>724311413You can unlock more moves to use in gleam mode.
>>724311521oh fucking duh I forgot about those, thanks
>>724311510Silksong
>>724287881Amazing game, only 2 achievements left, need to complete all the trials and then do a Master Ninja playthrough.
>The staff and toolbox both have hold and release at the right time Raven modesHate that shit.
Do you unlock more trials based on the difficulty of the base game? I'm almost done with the ones in the menu after beating hard
>>724304213I don't like those either but they're still better than swimming sections.
I'm GLEAMING my schlong right now.
>>724311761no
>>724309642Chapter 5 and 6 are the best in the game
>>724311757At least with the staff you can get a charm that let's you always do the perfect move. The one for toolbox just gives you a parry.
>>724311715is there any way to cheese the no laser touch achievement?
>>724310479They HATE wall splats. GT into Flying Swallow (or the opposite since you can cancel FS into GT) and they explode.
>>724311902Well shit, then I'm almost done with those, jus have the last three left. These also highlighted how much stronger Ryu is than Yakumo, just having access to wind blades and inferno seemed damn near essential to completing some of these
>>724310982Every time I see anyone post 4k screenshot I know they don't have any love or understanding for video games.
>>724311940Where's that?
>>724312084This, it's just a retarded marketer that sits on /v/ all day shilling slop for microsoft.
>>724312157You have to beat the game first. Then you unlock trials, some of which reward you with the charms (or adornment or w/e they're called in this game)
NG4: BLACK when? I'm so tired of fagkumo. I need the real edition where Ryu is the only and main character and the surfing/gliding/sonic rails are removed
>>724312251Microshart did fuck all to promote this game, I don't know why you think they'd pay a cent to post about it on a dying website rather than xitter
>>724312251No, it's just someone who made consuming things their hobby.
>>724312000You don't need to do the whole thing in one go, you can reload previous checkpoint when you fail. But each segment, you have to dodge the lasers yourself, so no "cheese". Lasers weren't that hard, I struggled more with Surf Ninja.
Reminder that the most knowledgeable NG player says it’s the worst action game of all time
>>724312603Well I’m the worst NG player and I say it’s the most knowledgeable action game of all time
>>724312603That means they aren't as smart as they think. All 3 of them.
>>724312603didn't take long for the honey moon phase to end
>>724312603Damn, even worse than the likes of DMC2? Wow, sounds very believable and not like hyperbolic hysteria at all. Those knowledgeable NG players sure know what they're talking about.
>>724312603I don't think an autistic third world zoomer with no achievements in the older games is the most knowledgeable NG player.
I'm the best NG player of all time and NG4 is the game of the decade.Feel free to quote me.
>>724312987Blader hated it well before launch tbf. He’s more deep into game design stuff so he could accurately assess its flaws quite well before playing it.
>>724296176i would have agreed if his design was consistent to the series instead of being a kpop twink faggot
>Bwhahahahaha! I am not actually literally who....>I am really LITERALLY WHOOO>*jobs and dies immediately*
>>724313612certified fromsoft boss
>>724313612He really existed just to look like an NG2 boss and glaze ryu
>>724313612>flash back to several days before>ahh ryu I have seori right here and I will kill her now hahahhahaha>*shurikens*>hmph... I'll kill you first then...>*gets raped*
>>724313772yeah they should've just brought back alexei somehow lmao
>>724287881>Crashes on startup on random configurations>Shader compilation errors cause constant CTD>Still no patchWorthless developers.
>>724313848Who are you people that can't run this game? My shit barely meets the minimum requirements to play it and it runs without any issues
>>724313848my game crashed on first start up and after that it hasn't crashed once. it sometimes freezes, like once every 3 hours but it solves itself in few seconds (or if I toggle berserk on. that for some reason instantly clears the freeze lmao)
>>724313826My hero.
>>724312451>reeeeeeee stop playing good video games! reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeseethe nigger, SEETHE!
am i the only one that doesn't find any issues with the targeting on OT? on UTs it's kinda fucky but I always target whoever I want to kill with OT
>>724314624What's the game to the right of the new Silent Hill?
>>724314873yea I dont understand why sometimes the UT goes for an enemy on the opposite side of the map when there is an enemy right next to the player.
>>724314970Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess
>>724315024Thanks, is it good?
>>724315079Yes, otherwise I wouldnt be playing it.
>>724314873The only thing OT needs is a little increase in the animation speed.
>>724314873My main issue with targeting is that lock-on doesn't seem to influence moves that target at all. If I'm hard locked and doing a flying swallow on an airborne enemy while I'm grounded I have MUCH better luck just jumping than using wind run which is literally made for that. Wind run will often randomly target someone else while I'm locked. UTs are the same. I wouldn't need the soft lock to be any more precise than it is if hard lock would overwrite for every tracking move. Just press R3 when you want to target someone, no problem. But it doesn't, so tracking issues really annoy.Don't happen too often and when you're surrounded you want to go with multi target UTs anyway and also probably don't want to go for the flying swallow BNB as it's riskier, so it's not a major issue, but still annoying. I also want an option to separate recenter camera from lock-on. Maybe make it block + BR = recenter since that doesn't spend meter by itself, only when you block a move, so you can just tap the BR button while blocking to recenter.
Anyone else here like the story?I don't think it's great, maybe not even good, but I think the plot itself, the premise that is and the ideas are good. The execution is just lacking and I think the game is missing a big inciting incident type mission like NG1 Hayabusa village getting attacked by Doku.Yakumo and Seori ended up being good characters and the game does have some really nice scenes that elevate the experience. The sky clearing after the final boss fight and the colors are just gorgeous, kino. Yakumo running through the city in the credits during the day is great.
>>724304215>>724310262Pretty obvious that it is a cost-cutting measure.Their engine probably can't handle real time cutscenes and in the studio's almost two decades of existence, they never upgraded to do so.It's quite clear that Platinum is a cheap studio.I am willing to bet that TK/Team Nigga's current staff weren't able to develop a game like NG4 so Eckbock sent it to Platinum to salvage it. The same thing that happened with MGR.
>>724297386>antagonists of both game is an order of knights>the main color of both of these orders are white>the headquarters of the order in both games are big all white monolithic structures>both of them have laser hallways
>>724299090I didn't know you could do that, nor that you could flying swallow out of shurikan.
>>724297648>he's not cringeHe's fairly cringe in the English dub imo. The JP dub Yakumo is cool.
>>724315293yeah I also liked the story, it wasn't completely awful or amazing it was okay
>>724298271Me too. But I'm also a Ratchet and Clank fan.I think the wind canyon missions go on for too long though.
>>724289643Nioh has no cost to basic attacks and enemies either get stunlocked after 1 hit or 1 special which costs mp, which is gained on hit. It makes the game incredibly trivial since everything but a boss can be infinite at no or effectively no cost.>>724298950Ignore this guy too.The game barely has a story, most of which is told via loading screens and orbs on the entirely linear copy paste fest maps.And the story is we accidentally gave them super powers we dont' lnow how lol also jacks are the best because they just areIts impressively poorly presented and writtenWeapons are also largely functionally identical since they all just do hit+element and as stated above every eenmy gets stunlocked to death after 0-1 hits. Class difference is just 1 skill per class, too
I've never played ninja gaiden. What's sigma? Black? And why does it go to 4 instead of sigma 4 or black 4?
>>724300267I expect players to go up over time. I haven't bought it yet because I don't have the money to spare.
>>724315293It's probably my second favorite story mode from NG, the first is still my favorite even though it's carried by the presentation by a hell of a lot, 4's a bit better written but the presentation is not as crisp as the first. 2 and 3's story modes suck other than the occasional cool moment but story was never really the selling point of these games.
>ctrl+f>0 webms>not even an mp4fuck the lot of youyou're all bald and gay
>>724315312I think it also helps with high framerate modes on consoles. You don't want the story scenes to have the 120fps mode visuals from up close. Prerendered lets them look even better than the unplayable graphics mode, while realtime would be a blurry mess with bad textures, blocky volumetric effects and lacking objects.This way everyone gets decent looking cutscenes without having to switch graphics in the menu.It does bloat file size and becomes dated once real time resolutions make the prerendered ones obsolete. It's painful to play an old game at 4K120 and then transition to bink video 720p24fps.
>>724315596>not liking Jacks gameseriously dough, why do you faggots have such shit taste?
>>724300267All the talk from gamers about muh souls fatigue and derivative samey sloppa being released with increasingly lower quality every year like Pokemon and then NG4 flopping is proof that gamers deserve the increasingly garbage soulless corporate money machine type of of games.
Khazan was pretty great. It felt like a more streamlined Nioh with really good feedback and animations. I hope the developers can do another action game and push the action even further.
>>724315605Sigma are ""enhanced"" rereleases. Black was basically the directors cut of the first game.
>>724315798Thank you
>>724315629>my second favorite story mode from NG, the first is still my favoriteMy exact feelings.
What am I supposed to do if I missed a mission?Apparently I missed the very first hell gate in the game.
For me it's 360+Y gleamYes, I get hit 99% of the time doing it but it's awesome
Issues they need to fix when/if NG4 Sigma Black Razor's Edge comes out>give OT's a hurtbox again so they're not instant free kills>drastically reduce the distance travelled towards an enemy by simply inputting a combo like XXY>actually fix the issues with UT that NG2 had to reduce UT spam There, NOW you have the best NG game.
>>724291824Yeah but it might be his talent at producing games has led him to think maybe he can produce a GaaS Live game
>>724316207Just finish the game until you unlock chapter select and go do the things you missed.
>>724316214That move is pure sex and can delete shit when it hits.
>>724316207Just do NG+, more missions unlock on NG+ anyway.
>>724316214That move is so addicting in the first game.
>>724287881That's not Khazan
>>724291824He was just trying to appeal to shareholders because Platinum is always low on money.
Anyone else up yakking they kumo right now?
>>724292543Yakumo is a better man than me, I would've made that white room even whiter.
>get to chapter 18>epic music starts playing>"wait a minute">squint my earsIs this a remix of that one famous NES theme? I've always wondered why they never used it for any of the 3D games
>>724315685Not him but Jack himself and the crystal burst kills are the only memorable aspect of it. As an actual game it's just another nu-TN arpg complete with their new boner for gear and other nonsense. I liked the edginess and everything else but I just don't enjoy that kind of gameplay.
>>724316764Don't know, but one of the songs is a remix of the NG3 themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdUCv_lpOEs&list=RDbdUCv_lpOEs&start_radio=1
I've always thought Kureha was a little kid.
>>724316931There is a kino game hidden somewhere in 3 and I wish we got that instead of 50 action RPGs ripping off one game and over the shoulder AAA games.
>>724287881>made the best action game of the yearThat's easy when there is no competition.
>>724315019the game auto targets the last guy who damaged you. sometimes it's a rifle guy on the other side of the arena.
>>724316931The only track I remember from 3 is the masked dude's theme. Honestly the music in these games are kinda lame.
>>724317268Nu-Team Cuckja is literally braindead, they can't make proper action games, all they know is to spam RPG time-wasting diablo loot autism systems on top of systems, no meaningful improvements in animations, graphical quality or gameplay in their games. As if Nioh games weren't bloated enough, now in Nioh 3 you will have to manage 2 builds at the same time and waste even more time running around in empty meaningless open-field zones.
>>724316764www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g7j8PwUtVAThere's multiple ryu songs in there
>>724311453>you can chain link flying swallow into more flying swallows on the ground
>>724317395Hades 2 came out and the first one won best action game in a fairly stacked year for action games.
>>724317410I wouldn't say they're lame it's just you never pay attention to it when you're about to get gangraped by fiends or ninjas. It ranges from averages to good in most cases. The sound design is a lot more noticeable and one of the best aspects in these games though.
>>724291693I like 4, but 1 and 2 had the best feeling true to heart Ninja Gaiden combat. 4 doesn’t feel like even 2 at all, de limbs take way longer, not as many enemies, suck to target etc…..
My Yakumo panic button is basically BR -> Jump/Light attack.
>>724316764https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LF2t4YlBI
>>724296030He can’t, he’s a dumb shilling nigger
>>724317620Not flying swallow. Say you're going for an izuna drop, but the enemy blocks you and parries you mid string, after the second air X. After getting parried, input dodge offset and hold. After falling to the ground because of the parry, the enemy will follow, you dodge again, holding block, and press Y. You'll get the air Y finisher on the ground as the enemy descends to punish you after their parry. It's not the most game changing thing, but it's literally free damage for getting parried and without needing BR meter to turn it around when the enemy blocks your air combo.
>>724317696>Hades 2No competition like I've said.
>>724298040Not in English he’s not
>>724297567All the good and none of that bad of an edgy conflicted character.
Ryu better get at least 3 new weaponsHe desperately needs something with range
>>724317268Razor's Edge UE5 remake with polished enemy encounters, reworked boss fights and new models for Ayane/Momiji/Kasumi would be so kino
>>724318175I know, I just read your post saying you can offset aerial moves so I tried with flying swallow barrage. This is all probably too high IQ to apply in the heat of combat for my brainlet ass though so I'll just stick with UT spamming.
>>724317949With the sword? It's my favorite move in the game, followed by drill back forward Y and hammer A.
>>724306506You thinking otherwise is proof your a dickless secondary. You lost.
anyone completely forget everything after playing? like i think i will only beat this game if i do it in one sitting
>>724306769For what it's worth the game has a lot of toggleable UI options. Yellow paint is retarded but it could be worse.
>>724309585That would be your no-skill ass
>>724318362Ah, got you. Can be useful for close to the ground air BR moves maybe? I need to test later at home. I really like the dual swords BR air charged heavy, but it misses too often because it's easy to get too high in the air as Yakumo to hit grounded opponents.
>>724318467Not really.
>>724318301Maybe the new weapon won't have ninpo and instead d-pad is legacy weapons? Would kind of suck to not have DS on rotation but since Yakumo has that moveset anyway it ends up making Ryu more unique.
>>724318379The swords uncharged bloodraven attacks are pretty great. Jump air light, first attack of the light string on the ground, the projectile.
>>724318642why not just assign each ninpo to a weapon?? its not the end of the world if you have to switch back and forth to use a ninpo you want since its instant
>my favorite DMC5 player picked the game up>doing some ludicrously insane looking Yakumo combos alreadyhttps://x.com/kino_many_games/status/1981479788356522254/video/1
>>724318681Jump air light is godly. Amazing tracking and range, plus armor break. Only weapon (so far, don't have the toolbox yet) that doesn't feel like not charging is just worse. Both have applications.
>Just reached the end of Mission 05>I've bought all 23 skills from Tyran>92500 spare ninjacoin currently burning a hole in my pocketIs he gonna sell me more skills later on? I have no need of this goddamn resource, I'm getting gated by weapon experience, and money is the only thing 99% of my side-jobs are rewarding me.
>>724318712I personally agree but I don't think most people would like that. I think it's either main weapon changes whole toolkit or they'll change ninpo switching to be menu based again.
new ninja dog here, I must say its really nice to be able to play a version of these games that is easily accessible and is mostly liked for a change. I got made fun of when I said I played the master collection a few weeks back.
>>724318880He will sell more but not nearly enough for all the money you have. At least on a first run.
>>724318880It's to pay for items now. Though a final post game unlock let's you spend NC to do more damage.
>>724318942Only one game in the collection is bad and there are easy to install mods that make it much better. It's just nu/v/ acting like underaged retards as usual.
>>724318942>bullied for playing great ports of great gamesNG fans on 4chan are degenerate retarded faggots. Flee.
>>724318962>It's to pay for items nowFuck items. Items only exist to turn INTO NinjaCoin>a final post game unlock let's you spend NC to do more damageI mean, I'd buy it, but meh.I was kinda hoping for a way to buy weapon experience so I could get at these moves. I want KIT, not free revives during boss fights.
>>724318880I never ever bought anything from umi and just kept accumulating money. Theres some real expensive stuff and accessories to buy after the game is already over though lol. I guess buy items to do hell mode purgatory gates for more xp
>>724319046NG+ lets you do that, apparently. Though I imagine it won't really be necessary if you've been doing purgatories on Hell.
Hear me out:Bloodbind + Item Select button to heal using blood. Has a cast animation which can be interrupted by taking damage, estus-flask style. Consumes however much bloodbind is between max and those little indicator arrows (is that like 60%?). Does not hit the item use penalty. Only available as a high-cost purchased skill, or maybe a postgame unlock.
>>724318942As an OG NG2 fan, I don't blame you. It's a shame the OGs aren't more accessible.
>>724319197Like meditation, I don't mind it. But feels redundant with items. Either both should have a penalty or items shouldn't exist. Maybe make it an accessory that locks you out of using items at all.
>>724318467One benefit of the game forcing you to buy each every wep skills with a gay grinding system is that it really makes those moves stay in your memory a lot more easily. Granted the lack of "XX>XX>" variants also help..
>>724318942>I got made fun of when I said I played the master collectionwhoever did that is gay. There's still 2 out of 3 games worth playing in that collection.
>>724315685>>724316804ThisAnd you provided 0 argument for why anyone should like it.Just >Le Jack's gameSome of us play games for fun, not to fit in
its so funny how people are shitting on 3re for sob and praising blood raven/gleam making this a game of simon says XD
>>724319646Haha XD so fanny XDKill yourself faggot, BR destroys sobshit in every single ways.
>>724316764>segues into the NG2 main menu theme>there's some bits of some NG3 track in there toocool music
>>724319452>Either both should have a penaltyItems would be for use in emergencies. You are penalized for using them (both in terms of stage score and resources lost) because they are a way to crutch through a fight without having to do it over. Bloodbind healing/meditation/etc., would be a tactical mid-fight choice that required knowledge of timing and positioning to use effectively, and with a risk-reward balance built in. More akin to choosing to sacrifice essence orbs to quick-charge a UT, except essence orbs give so little HP back that it's basically not a choice and you just only use them to UT unless you're outside of a fight breaking every crate you see to get 25% HP back.IDK, tactical healing is just a really fun mechanic, especially in games that tend to whittle your HP down a lot over time. NG doesn't have its equivalent to Devil Trigger or anything like it, there's no push-and-pull where constant offensive pressure can be used to build up the ability to recover in the war of attrition. You just sort of slowly get chipped down and die by a thousand cuts, then you either use the item or take the death and start fresh. They could have had something that felt cool with the "parry counter is guaranteed to spawn essence" but, again, an essence orb is like 2% of your HP, stringing parries together from low HP to recover would feel cool if you didn't have to do it 30 times to make a meaningful difference, so realistically what you're doing is parrying to set up a quick UT.
>NG4 is fantastic>makes brown nigga unironically post cp out of rageFucking why lol? I hope you die, genuinely, you deserves it.
>>724319747yeah sure if you like that more have fun. also people were complaining that 3re has enemies dodge and block too often when here it is even more prevailend and your only option to open enemys up is blood raven or gt and i see no one complain about it.
>>724287881not like theres any competition left anyway
What was the point of ayane?
>>724320218I think they're teasing an Ayane fight in the DLC
>achievement unlocked>"Head to the final battle carrying the wishes of Seori (and Kureha)"whomstdve
>>724319920Obliterations restore health accessory is good enough for me. Should be a default mechanic to be honest
>>724320284Priestess who dies in the first game. Yakumo's story is kind of a mirror to Ryu's, with the dead priestesses and jewels to activate legendary swords.
>>724296394The solution to UT spam is to make the full powered UT cost 4 small orbs and 2 big orbs, or maybe even more. Also revert them to being like NG1 where in order to hit multiple enemies with a full powered UT you actually have to group them together rather than UTs teleporting around.
>>724318762>using the odachi rb for horizontal movement and leaping off for heightHOLY KINO
first action game to have dogs fun to fight?
>>724319646BR / bloodbath is an evolution of SOB to me. I already liked the mechanic in RE to begin with, but 4 puts it more in your control and something you work towards instead of getting it handed to you. Both are more balanced than UT spam
>>724320517oh the lady that doku guy killed, I didn't know she had a name
>>724319646I like SoBsI like Bloodraven/GleamFun.
>>724320218>>724320279Ayane will be playable character, added in the DLC.
>>724320417I don’t have that yet, but I kind of dislike it. I mean of course I’m gonna equip it, but like… OTs are already always a good decision. There’s basically no reason NOT to OT when you have the opportunity, it’s a fully invincible animation guaranteed to eliminate a threat. Tacking healing on to that doesn’t impact tactical choices; you aren’t changing how you play in order to recover health. It’s just a passive buff. It’d be like HP slowly regenerating over time, or being restored with each hit you do. Sure, it solves the war-of-attrition problem, but (like items) it doesn’t do so in an interesting way from a combat balance perspective.Compare all of that to mechanics like>Silksong’s Bind>DMC’s Devil Trigger>Doom reboot’s Glory Kill>Furi’s parry>Sekiro’s GourdWhere, in one way or another (and they’re all different, IMO Furi and Skong do it best), you have to expose yourself to more damage for an opportunity to recover from damage. You have to be aggressive when you least want to do it, and then (sometimes) sacrifice being aggressive when you DO want to do it, in order to recover from prior mistakes.IDK, it’s just much more interesting to me.
NGB > NG2 > NG4 >> NG3RE >>>>>>>> NG2S > NG3
>>724320912I mean I was about to say "that's literally just a doom glory kill" and then you listed itI don't see the difference
>>724319646>>7243200313RE sucks balls.NG4 is the best action game ever made.BR >>> SoB.
Them giving Yakumo Ryu’s moveset felt like a spit in the face of Ryu’s fans.
>>724320993NG4 (with DLC) > NGB > NGII > Yaiba >>> Dogshit >>> NG3:RE
>>724317891It's just impossible to replicate Itagaki's and TN's background and fighting games influence. That's why I kinda understand inclusion of Yakumo as admitting it's Platinum's take on the franchise
>>724287881its the only action game of the year you dumb fuck
>>724321248It just shows that Ryu wasn’t planned to be a playable character from the start. He was probably meant to be a DLC character, but then they realized fans would get pissed and changed their minds
>>724320738>>724320787in theorie its not a bad but they made the balancing in this game so unfun bc of these mechanics. to balance br they made normal attacks so weak its basicly just a way to get meter and then you dump the meter to deal real damage or play the simon says game.
>>724320996Doom is fundamentally a game about guns. The reason Glory Kill works in Doom is that it forces you to be up close to an enemy in order to use it, which means you CAN’T stay a safe distance away taking shots to pull it off effectively. You have to be aggressive and in the heat of the action for an opportunity to heal from your kills. Now yes, a case could be made that this was already how you were playing Doom… but the point is GKs existed to discourage a degenerate overly cautious campy playstyle and reward the kind of aggression the designers intended.OTs already DO that, even without healing. The fact that delimbed enemies can be instakilled with an invul animation is already a perfectly good reason to be fishing for delimbs and OTing at every opportunity. Basically the only tactical choice I can imagine making there is>I want to OT for HP recovery so I WON’T guillotine throw all of these enemies off this bridge into the pitAnd/or possibly taking care not to abuse Izuna Drop or UT spam too heavily… but realistically speaking you’re already OTing constantly in fights, I don’t think the game needs to further incentivize it so badly that it ought to tie its only non-penalized healing mechanic to it.
>>724320912>>724320996Also I don't think your idea is that great because the real problem in this game with HP is that you're slowly being whittled down from fight to fight with very little natural healing. I'm not jobbing from 100 to 0 in a single fight I'm dying because I haven't seen an umi terminal in like 10 minutes. Being able to heal with blood (a resource that recharges extremely quickly) would be OP. With meditation obviously you needed ki gauge which can only build up in battle.But well I'd even go as far as to say it's fine the way it is, I'm on MN now and I'm very mindful of how far the next shop is so I can play a bit more carefully
>>724300267if only it had annoying cringe jrock steamies would of brought it
>>724317891People have to stop with this>suck to targetmeme, it’s obvious you haven’t played the game.Anyone who’s played far enough to be bothering to break environmental props (AKA maybe Mission 02 at the latest) knows that Yakumo just has crazy forward step on all his attack patterns, even when no enemies are around. I’ve whiffed Yatousen’s million stabs while standing 6 inches from an enemy enough times to know the game is not rubberbanding me to my target at all. The only exception to this is in a brief window after dodging an enemy’s attack, and when releasing a UT.
>>724321560UTs also fill your berserk and bloodraven gauges a lot, they are very powerful which is probably why you can’t really OT dead enemies>>724321568Don’t underestimate the healing from essence too, especially if you have the accessory that spawns more big ones.
>>724294259you can switch weapons during the dodge. open with a faster weapon, offset and switch to a higher damage weapon
>>724321809>especially if you have the accessory that spawns more big ones.This one helped me a lot in levels, destroying crates and shits spawned lots of the big ones and I could heal quite a bit without using items.
>Completed all 18 combat trials>No cheevoWhat the fuck? Why not?
>>724321568This is true, maybe it would require further balance that your bloodbind meter only recovers passively up to some threshhold which isn’t enough to heal. Silksong did this, you got passive silk regen to use specific skills but it stopped regenning long before you had enough to Bind, so you had to hit enemies to build it back. It seems like passive Bloodbind is there to ensure that players who aren’t spamming will always have some juice in the tank if needed for a Bloodraven Interrupt or guard break, but you don’t need to let their Bloodbind gauge passively recover to FULL for that. You could easily just let it recover to like, 60%.
>>724322071probably missed a ryu one in his tokyo chapter
>>724316214She'll betray you anon...
>>724320912>There’s basically no reason NOT to OT when you have the opportunityyou dont get those opportunities if you chain UTs. that accessory is just another disincentive for spamming UTs.
>>724311757>unironically hating Just Charge mechanicsDOWN YOU G- WRETCH- JACKPOT
DLC Hopes>2 entirely new weapons for Yakumo and Ryu, plus Ryu gets a couple of old ones back with gleam mechanics. They also add new strings/moves you can buy for existing weapons, fleshing out the DS strings a bit more returning the x hold y launcher that keeps you grounded>5 new story chapters, 2 Ryu, 2 Yakumo, 1 final>Ultimate Ninja Difficulty (further remixes encounters)>Underworld Drop>More trials are added>Ayane playable (not happening, but it's hopes so it's alright, it's okay to hope)
>>724317891Enemies die extremely quickly if you know what you're doing.
>>724321486fs barrage kills half the shit you're fighting and you can air combo into a guillotine throw now. the normal attacks do plenty of damage. it just isnt ng2 levels of stupid where you do literally one attack, it delimbs and you can OT
>>724322415>more stringsGive Ryu back the hold and direction mid-combo strings, give Yakumo pause strings. Help them feel a little more distinct.
Please bring back my favorite baby mode parry to win weapon
>>724322579I agree. I don't think Ryu will get 3RE hold strings back, but some holds in his strings is a realistic ask.Also add shuriken command moves, back to forward and circle. Ryu gets four rings back.
>>724321486Not really true. Delimbs being in means that normal attacks are always the bread and butter of any fight. Dodge offset also lets you use specific BR moves you want instead of just building meter and dumping meter, you'll always have enough if you're playing right.You can accuse the game of being UT spam if you want and I won't have a proper counter argument because it is indeed busted and the reason to not do it is because it's boring, not because it's bad, but saying normal attacks are worthless just show you haven't played the game and are probably repeating some other faggot who also didn't play the game you saw sperging on twitter.
>>724301434is this good?how does it run on an RTX 3060?
>>724308570wow sounds like an anti-skill mechanic if you ask me
>>724322579I like this idea, apply it to bloodraven and gleamblade too, And to shadow gleam, a few more distinct moves between the two.
>>724312710>All 3 of them.Unless they cleared every game on MNM they are literal whos.
>>724322528>it just isnt ng2 levels of stupid where you do literally one attack, it delimbs and you can OTEven then sometimes it can be, just not consistently. Can't even get to your launcher if you're not inputting a raw one a lot of the time because you delimb first and if you don't delay the Y press it'll option select into an OT. Delimb rates are very high, just not NG2.
>>724322579Pause strings would probably get in the way of the parry system. I like that you can stagger your offense on bosses to make sure you can still react to their attack and parry without needing to passively wait for it.
>>724322748i played the game for 100 hours and completed everthing there is and the game is good i had fun with it but there is still stuff i dont like. first dodge offset does not counter the argument as you still build the meter and then access the move that you want bc its the only way to kill enemies. why do you think people do dodge offset to access the 3rd string bc it has the highest chance to delimb and enemies cant do anything about it. so you are telling me normal attacks are good to access the best br strings asap so its still just there to set br up nothing else.>>724322528are we playing the same game or do only the enemies in my game block fs? also fs spam is so boring just like ut spam.
SO if the game flopped,do you think we will get MORE DLC as a way for them to make up for losses in a cheaper way, or LESS DLC because they just cut their losses?
Do you have to do the 4th Oniwaka fight as Yakumo? I went there as Ryu and it didn't work.
>>724323698>you still build the meter and then access the move that you want bc its the only way to kill enemies.Incorrect. Not up to debate, not a matter of opinion. You're wrong.
>>724322086Honestly no I still don't like it. I think without items it's meant to be a sort of endurance run of multiple fights between each shop, and self-sustain like this kind of defeats the purpose as long as you're still able to heal out of combat by saving blood. And then you have to adjust the values so it doesn't heal too much out of combat but isn't worthless doodoo for the risk you have to take in combat. Sure you could just disable it outside instead but now it feels arbitrary.And the endurance thing kinda reminds me of the NES games too lol, now that we've gone back to linear levels
>>724323698>are we playing the same game or do only the enemies in my game block fs? also fs spam is so boring just like ut spam.They regularly block FS if they're grounded and you're facing them/they're not in hitstun. Hit them first, attack from the back, wind path, launch them and then jump FS, just make sure you confirm it first.With the little daemon dudes who like to block I like to use 360Y->Y with the rapier, and after they're sent flying I FS. More often than not it's a decapitation.
>>724323698If an enemy tries to blocks my attack I make them eat shit for it. It's one of the reasons they die so quickly.
>you flying swallow one of the rocket barrage launcher guys>they fuck your entire face up right as you are about to hit himThis will never not be funny.
>>724323748>SO if the game flopped,do you think we will get MORE DLC as a way for them to make up for losses in a cheaper way, or LESS DLC because they just cut their losses?Probably wouldn't get more DLC either way, this game was greenlit back during the covid rush when gaming was making insane amounts of money. Even if it was a big seller I doubt Microsoft has any interest in following up on more stuff considering they seem to be giving up on Xbox in general, and I've never heard of another publisher stepping in and funding more DLC for the same game
>>724323991The idle stance in the bloodraven sword mode is so kino.
>>724323748are games that only do well on goypass even encouraged to make dlc?
>>724324074It was always funny in the first NG when you'd enter a room and it's a long hallway with like 5 rocket launcher guys at the very end of it and you immediately just panic
>>724323991>Used meterMissing the point entirely
>>724324208That one hallway in NGB in the military chapter where the camera is fixed on Ryu when you walk in, but there are two devious rocket launcher guys on the other end that you don't see.Kekkpow
>>724324186Goypass killed so many games. Microjeets did everything in their power to poison the market.
>>724324226You only need a single Bloodraven light to break almost every guard in the game, and you start fight offs with fill Bloodraven, and also Bloodraven isn't even the only way to break guards. What exactly is the point you're trying to make?
wooo i haven't done all achievements in a video game evertime to play for fun now i guess
>>724324186Isn't the idea to get people to play the base game on gamepass and hope some of them like it enough to buy the DLC? That's why paradox games are on gamepass
>>724291257Skill issue, the bar fills with hits and kills, stop being a cripple faggot
>>724323698if they're likely to block you jump shuriken first and then get behind them. same as every other game in the series
>>724324410But you've been having fun the entire time anon.
>>724324129I hadn't thought about microsoft needing to be involved... wait, does that mean the profits of this game is split 3ways between MS, TN and platinum? plus steam i guess. It might be even more of a flop than i thought...
>>724294301>and NG4 didn't add them back eitherAt least watch more youtube videos if you're going to seethe faggot.
>>724323793show me how you kill a van without using br/parrie/pb/pd and see how long it takes.>>724323986ok im gonna try that out thanks for the info.
>>724296030Retarded faggot
>>724324582would've been more fun if the game had an actual saving system
I have a lot of problems dealing with multiple enemies. It seems like rolling and jumping isn't as safe as it was in the other games. I'm also used to be safe in the air and now there's always a fucking zombie sniping me with vomit from the other side of the continent. I'm suffering to clear some purgatory gates and i can only imagine the pain that's MN gonna be.
>>724324743>show me how you kill a van without using br/parrie/pb/pd and see how long it takes.What is this retard argument.>KILL GENSHIN WITH ONLY SHURIKENS AND TELL ME NG2 IS A GOOD GAME
>>724309837Because it is artificial skill.
>>724324689if MS financed the game then Team Ninja is the true winner here bro. as are we the player for getting this utterly kino of a game. keep praying for their downfall like the buck broken bitch faggot that you are though.
>>7243224151. At least 3 new weapons for Ryu, so he has 4 weapons.2. Ryu being able to swap his weapons in active combat just like Yakumo. If they have to take away your option to have active swapping Ninpo, then so be it, but I hope they find a way to keep both.3. More Ryu focused chapters in the new story mode of the DLC.4. More Trials.5. Some form of "end game" challenge mode where you fight a lot, they can come up with something cool.6. Ayane playable character, 1 weapon is fine.
>>724298095>>724298153Nu-/v/ is really full of faggots
>>724324849ok youre kinda right on that just wanted to make a point that you are forced to use these shitty mechanics to defeat an enemy like that.
>>724287881>USE YOUR DARK ESSENCE BLOOD RAGE RAVEN FORM NINJUTSU SHURIKEN STRIKE(press square)"didn't make it past the tutorial desu
>>724324821UTs are the way. Kill two things and start that UT chain
>>724298450Use Ryu, he melts all bosses
>>724324889all video games are artificial bro. do you even know what youre saying?
>>724324980you're replying to an LLM
>>724324971Please don't take Ryu's ninpo, it's the only thing that let me clear the combat trials.
>>724287881I cant think of a more damning sign about this goyslop not being an actual NG game than seeing a bunch of the DMC4 trannies on twitter making epic tech clips and combo snippets about it on twitter already
>>724302804>But you can't play as herKill al sigma/RE fags
>>724325210true sign of a real NG game is nobody cares about it
>>724298095NG4 is the epitome of edgy cringe chuuni with a protagonist that looks straight out of some 14 year olds DeviantArt OC. so I feel like the emo buttrock is actually fitting even though I hate itthank god the combat is top
>>724324689Microsoft funded the entire thing. Don't know how the profits are split, but 4 parties are involved, Microsoft, Platinum Games, Team Ninja and Koei Tecmo.
>>724322415>Ideally, 3 new weapons for both characters>Campaign that sees Ryu and Yakumo traveling together, you can choose to play as either for every level>Boss Ayane, game blue balled me>More trials, including tag trials>Momiji / Kasumi cameoAnd pretty much everything you mentioned as well.
>>724323654Why? It doesn’t matter whether the attack would or wouldn’t transition to the pause string if it procs a parry regardless. Parrying is input-dependent not animation-dependant, regardless of the attack that WOULD be coming out if you press the input to start it inside the parry window, you get the parry animation, it’s not like the DMC parry where your attack’s hitbox is what triggers it
>>724325202Ryu obviously gets to keep his Ninpo, what I mean is that you'd have to "select" your "equipped" Ninpo from the menu, and have active weapon swapping in combat take their place if necessary.
>having to turn off voice audio when hitting a tough bossfight cause they keep playing the same convo every timemy favorite places are purgatories and the fiend realm where you don't have to suffer the "SNAAAAAKE? SNAAAAAAAAAAKE" every time you die
>>724324226Literally impossible, normal attacks are worthless. It's over.
>>724310479why are lanterns so beefy.
>>724325801Rapier 360 heavy is so good. Love this thing.
>>724324410Did you not get a single glitched achievement? I already had two not popping up for some reason, one of them for defeating the fox lady boss.
>>724325020Ninja Gaiden has always been like this>Execute the Path of the Way of Wind Shadowless Footsteps on Leaves Secret Technique>jump into a wall to run across itI kinda feel like these names are more succinct in Japanese due to Kanji. Sort of like how manga titles when directly translated are like>Are We Sure This Is Possible?! My Crazy Uncle Invented a Time Machine That Goes Back to Dinosaur Times: Part 2 Extra Experience
>>724325801>Training modeNigga you gay
>>724298095I kind of felt the same way pre-release, especially because the vocal tracks are simply not as good as the ones in MGR. Those get me hype even if they're not my kind of music, but the ones in NG4 are not it.That said, it's not NG4's OST identity, it's specifically the DDO's sound, and that turns it into kino. Other areas and enemies have distinct sounds, some sound much closer to classic NG music, and Sanzeon has the best theme in the game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX_0KOiRgHYOverall, very pleased with the soundtrack. Worthy entry in the series. They didn't replace Ninja Gaiden's music with buttrock, they added buttrock to Ninja Gaiden's music. It's an important distinction.
>>724325934Nope, everything went smooth
>>724316764>sick guitar riff music starts playing>second phase>HUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAA YEAAAAAAAAAH IM A WHINY BABAAAAAAAAAAY
>>724326138I don't have chapter select yet, no other way to load up this specific enemy to show.
when can i convert coin to weapon exp in my inventory? beat the game and all i got are charms that do it from enemies defeated
>>724325801Just now realized I accidentally cut the very start, but like the second combo it starts with Wind Path to get over the block and attack from behind.
>>724325934Game’s just buggy sometimes. I yeeted a Tengu off a bridge in Chapter 4 and he got stuck down there in the pit. I couldn’t get my camera to stop target-tracking him and he was below the death fog for Ryu so no way to kill him. Had to checkpoint restart. It’s a bummer when that type of shit happens
>>724318341>UE5>kino
>>724325210>damning sign about this goyslopThe daily shill threads right after another by microshartroon indian marketers didn't clue you in yet?
>platinum games finally figure it out>the game flops anyway>they go bankruptit's owari
>>724326221I can just picture the reddit reaction>"victor borba is a fricking national treasure!"
>>724324980nah the music gets ruined by gay yakumo style lyrics. you're honestly underage and tryin to fit in if you say that shit is okay.and im not even a huge diehard ninja gaiden fan. the music doesn't have a place in an action game like this.
>>724326841Sounds good to me
let down of the year for me. I really don't like the levels and how the combat feels, not even a little bit. Every boss plays the same, every weapon is the same, every level is the same. Legit awful game, don't understand the general positive reception
What's next for him?
>>724326767they got him for ng4? fuckin hell
>>724326957Growing a stache
>>724326957Slaughtering Black Spider losers with a fellow master.
New thread?
>>724326947we are really lackin in character action games so i think that lets it get away with it.after replayin though yeah the levels are a drag. the weapons all function the same minus the box. i cant really find much use for most of them except box on bosses that are just designed for it in mind.(black dragon and roomba)
>>724327052Please no. It's the most cliche american designer trope of a sequel and its just to appeal to dads.
