How did TF2 managed to outlast OW2?
>>724293097not run by blizzard
>>724293097TF2 has the same average player count since 2012. Now shut your gay ass up.
It was dead to they when they added cosmetics. Its a fucking mess and none of the og artstyle remains.
What do you mean 'outlast'? Both games are still live with significant playerbases
DOES TF2 have more players (actual players) than Overwatch?
>>724293097Unusual ruins everything. It just look so tacky and out of place. If you use it, you should kill yourself for being a tasteless faggot.
TF2 is immortal while Overwatch has the noose around its neck
>>724293097Your loadout blows cock, OP.
>>72429309715v15 and 30v30 is more fun than 5v5 or whatever overwatch and modern hero shooters are
>>724293097>2016 OW : Thriving most popular game in the planet>2025 OW : Dead game>2016 TF2 : 12 trannies and 50k bots playing the game>2025 TF2 : same 12 trannies and 50 bots playing the gameCongrats on the win I guess?
Why do people keep parroting that OW2 is "le ded gaem"?
>>724293573Overwatch failed because they tried to chase the e-sports cake instead of making a fun shooter.TF2 continues because the core of the game is that strong... even if the game fucking breaks every update and Valve continues to bloat the file size.
>>724293097i really feel the 3 ammo clip when using that loadout. i hate it.
>>724293097This loadout is gay as shit.
Server browser
>>724293097it was simply the better game.
>>724293364All the cosmetics and non-standard weapons (besides first class updates) look stupid and out of place.
Private servers > matchmaking.That's it. Regardless if you like TF2 or not there's still quake servers around today.
>>724293097sunk cost fallacy.
the average modern tf2 player looks like this
>>724294167name a better shooter, just one.
>>724294262Are we talking purely multiplayer or can single player FPS games join in?
>>724294331multiplayer, no shit there are plenty of good singleplayer shooters but they dont provide the experience of a good pub.
>>724293097>How did TF2 managedIt's a sing of the decline of this shit board that blatant jeetposts like this aren't even noticed anymore, probably because all the people commenting are jeets too.
>>724294383I'm a milsim autist so my opinion doesn't count for much but I'll put Arma III forward. It's not for everyone, I recognize that, but I like it.Full disclosure, not the frog poster.
>>724293097by being roblox for millennials
>>724294440Burgers constantly fuck up even the simplest things in their own language, please shut the fuck up. It's 2025 and you retards keep mixing up "your" and "you're"
>>724294440
>>724294470fair enough, of course thats just a different feel from a similar era of the internet.one game, a serious milsim.the other, a game where you frag each other in a casual pub and shittalk.TF2 is still alive because nobody else has tried to provide a similar experience, probably why A3 is still alive: its all comp trash at the end of the day trying to make the next big esports scene.
>>724294440>It's a sing of the decline>that blatant jeetposts like this aren't even noticed anymore
>>724293097TF2 has been in a state of purgatory like the gap between the last OW1 update to the launch of 2 for longer than OW has been a playable videogame and yet TF2 fags still act like their game is somehow the more alive one.
>>724294440oh trust me i noticed the ESL mistake immediatelybut there's no point in commenting on it anymore because half the damn board is filled with it. if i were to actually comment on it half my day would be nothing but>>boughted>fuck off jeet>>724294769>bragging about needing to learn another languagenot the flex you think it is, shitskin.that's nothing but proof that you are a rat beneath the shoes of actual men.
>>724294928i can still play team fortress classic.if valve were to make a TF3, i could still play TF2.can you still play OW1?
>>724293268Not really, no. Stats right now are>OW2 In-Game: 18.5k Players>TF2 In-Game: 4.6kFor 24hr peaks, it was 40.5k for OW2, 12.5k for TF2Scream Fortress also only pulled in around 23k concurrent players at its peak this month.Not to mention, those are some kinda meh numbers for a F2P game that's technically still getting new content and is extremely moddable. Like, Civ V is only 3 years younger, is still pay to play, and yet it still gets more players, and it doesn't even get TF2's three yearly pity updates or advertisements/tie-ins for community events and mods (i.e. Potato)
Team Fortress 2 is basically cheating by being made before they started making games not fun on purpose, and overwatch quite literally coasted off of consolefags who have no option for a "tf2 like game".There's a reason Overwatch transitioned and started identifying as a sequel, and it wasn't at all to relate with the people who actively play it.
>>724295037Typical EOP cope
>>724295105that's not even mentioning how most of the OW playerbase is on Bnet or console
>>724295074You can still play OW1 in the same official capacity that you can play pre-MYM TF2
>>724295074no I cannot but that's a nice non-sequitur I guess. got any more?
The MvM update I think is going to be a make it or break it for TF2 to surge back. The first summer update boosted numbers way up but then it petered very quickly. This update is going to be Valve's shot to show they give a shit after years of not.
>>724295145whatever you say, shitskin.if you really hate english speakers that much then why dont you fuck off back to the third world shithole that you came from? none of us will bother you there.
>>724295175>official capacitywhats something like that matter when its the legacy of a mod? that said, i think the tf2 no unlocks mod has had unlocks for a while.
>>724295105>Teamwork.tf as a source when they had a multi month long tantrum and were reporting zero people playing when they added VSH and tf2 hit a new all time high
>>724295105>>724295150That's what I imagined, yeah.Sounds like TF players might wanna wait until Blizzard actually shuts down Overwatch before gloating about their game "outliving" Overwatch then.
>>724295204I don't see how any MvM update is gonna do anything considering the update will likely be more geared toward paid tours, which a fraction of a fraction of the playerbase engages with.
>>724293097TF2 is functionally dead. A few thousand trannies who can't let go does not constitute a healthy game. The recent Halloween update is completely broken and a sign that Valve is more than willing to let whales prop up this game's bloated carcass than do anything to make it playable.
>>724295074Thinking of OW1 as a different game from 2 is daftThey just gave it a big patch and slapped a 2 on the title one day
>>724295263which to be fair it likely will happen eventually, I don't see OW running as a forever game but they are still keeping SC2 and HoTS going so who knows
>>724295281Two words: New Australiums.The trading community of TF2 (Let's be honest, they are a big part of the community currently hence why the spam of unusual effects every update) are going to go nuts over it.
>>724295290Did you actually play the halloween update, or are you just regurgitating the opinion of a sperg who got mad that Valve added fun game modes instead of patching the game to give him godmode and an advertising deal?
>>724295239I don't hate English speakers, I just like making fun of lazy retards who cope about being monolingual with the usual "w-well, I don't NEED to learn another language!" argument.
>>724295105>>724295150>>724295263>using teamwork.tf when its known to be unreliable, biased, and to consistently report extremely low numbersnow lets see the... actual numbers.
>>724295330I guess, I think the tradefag playerbase are a case of a vocal minority personally but we'll see when the update drops. I like MvM but I paid for TF2 and they can eat my entire ass if they think I'm paying to play a gamemode. Community events are pretty fun though
The only time OW could have even hoped to compete with TF2 was its launch period. As soon as hero stacking was banned, it fell off and only got worse from there.
>>724295426ok and that's the entire playerbase of one game vs the smallest part of an entire playerbase that's split amongst 3 consoles (lolswitch OW) and Bnet.
>>724295398uh huh, sure. thats why your shitty meme said "i speak english because you speak english"whatever helps you cope with the fact that you're a rat that we could crush at any moment.
>>724295426Whoa whoa whoa hey now anon, don't you know that the same TFTumors nobody likes, who have ZILLIONS of totally real subscribers but can't regularly fill up a pub server TOTALLY can be trusted to give accurate statistics.
>>724295487Buddy if overwatch was doing well it wouldn't need to start identifying as a sequel and relaunch.
>>724295342Yes, the queue is completely busted due to the excess of maps and the new maps were abandoned within days. One of them was bugged on launch and the match couldn't even be finished. It was a mess, just like it is every year. The game is in an abysmal state.
>>724295487>implying that all of those arent dead
>>724295473hero stacking sucked in serious gameplay though. yes it is fun to meme on defense with 5 torbs but playing any 2CP(the worst gamemode in the game) and seeing a team of monkeys and one lucio jump onto point was a nightmare to deal with. launch OW in general was very badly balanced. the game lost it's sauce when they forced 2/2/2 and eventually went down to 1/2/2. thankfully now 6v6 open queue is a thing, though they still won't let you run more than 2 tanks because they're afraid of GOATS.
>>724295520I didn't post that picture you fucking retard.
>>724295204Nah. After all, it's still just another community update, and there's additional factors working against it now. Summer 2023 hit so hard because it came out of nowhere and was the poster child for "oooo look we've got Vscript now." It was a blitzkrieg of new maps that looked good and have a lot of novelty, and you're just not going to get that now that you know the update is coming, and when people are frankly sick and tired of Vscript shit at this point. Not to mention, people were instantly disappointed by Valve's follow-through, so they won't get fooled again.It being MvM and MvM not getting any updates doesn't really help it either. Players have an inherent bias against the mode due to the long-running knowledge that most other players will be pricks, busybodies, know-it-alls, and micromanagers at BEST, and at worst will literally blacklist you. This has affected people's willingness to play on even more-casual servers and event hosters like Potato, which is another thing: people have already been seeing and playing the good shit for MvM for years if they remotely care about it, especially since Valve has been advertising their Operations. It has no chance to be as big as the Summer 2023 update.
>>724293097>Haven't played TF2 in years>Decide to play the Halloween event>People are talking about the oestrogen they're taking the effects it's having etcHow the fuck did TF2 become overrun with troons
>>724295426>now let's see the actual numbersWhere are they?
>>724295687You'd have to be mentally ill to not have abandoned this game during the bot crisis.
>>724295603they shouldn't bother calling themselves OW2 anymore considering what happened, but originally the plan was to be an actual new game. but Blizz as usual shat the bed and so basically all the new features for OW2 got canned to make worse OW1. We had a big drought in content at the ass end of OW1 because they were making a sequel that eventually got thrown in the bin. none of this happened because the game was dying, if anything this massive gap in content and the eventual bad launch hurt the game much more than anything they did prior to it
>>724295742>Bot crisisReminds me>There is a period of time that people got sick of casual being filled with bots and started making more community servers>For a sliver of time, it felt like old TF2>Bots get B&'d>People abandon those community servers and go back to casual>Suddenly, more bitching about how casual works starts to swell.It wouldn't be so bad if it worked like how it did during the quickplay era: Set time on a map, votes to do team scambles or changes maps.
>>724295762It never seemed like a 'new game', just a glorified big battlepass
I know the reason. But, you won't like it.Valve has a large group of sycophants.People are so ingratiated into the valve system that they will play these games because they are financially tied to the wellbeing of the game. Try to think about all the losers that killed themselves over the csgo knife fiasco. If valve did a similar thing to uproot the tf2 economy, it would cause similar issues. People are financially tied to valve in many ways.
>>724295762>Blizzard spent the ridiculous wages they pay their devs out of the WoW Whale chest to just throw out all the totally real content they made to be quirky tee heeCome on anon, you're not stupid enough to believe that.
>>724295328I am genuinely amazed (and grateful) that they keep HotS alive, I still get some fun out of it.I can only assume that game will go offline some time this decade, but Overwatch and all the shop skins and shit seem to be a pretty decent source of revenue so I don't imagine they will give those up any time soon.
>>724295850It's funny since CS does use TF2 keys as a form of currency. If the TF2 economy goes to shit, that's the CS and DOTA trading community going up shit creek as well.
>>724295842correct, because the "new game" they were making never released, because it was binned. so we had like a multiple year gap of nothing for OW1, for OW2 to launch with one less tank, bad balance and no promised PvE. following?
>>724295037nta but i speak 5 languages
>>724295850>GUYS GUYS>THERE'S TOTALLY A BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY WHERE PEOPLE PAY MORE FOR WORTHLESS CRATES IN BULKEnough retard.
>>724295850>If valve did a similar thing to uproot the tf2 economy, it would cause similar issues. They have already but I doubt they would drastically change anything at this point in the game. The only way they would is if keys were craftable by refined metal.
>>724295891>he doesn't remember starcraft ghosteven OW1 was made from the scraps of Titan, a game we knew about in fucking 2007. OW1 launched in 2016. Blizzard are masters at wasting time and burning money, in fact that's why WoW is so heavily monetized so they could milk their whales
>>724293097autism
>>724296081Yeah I remember he command and conquer renegade clone they were shitting out.I'll see you when blizzard TOTALLY releases blibbidy smoosh which is secretly the codebase of the REEEEEEAL Overwatch 2 and that the entire fiasco was an entirely cynical pathetic attempt to seek relevance when the Xbex and piss 5 came out.
>>724295687whenever you ask yourself that question just remember this magic word:autism.tf2 is nearly two decades old at this point, and its not "optimized" to keep players stuck chasing battlepasses like modern games.its not a "surface level" internet thing despite its popularity. the average normalnigger that plays games will only know of compshit like overwatch.in order to find tf2, play it, and decide to stick around some level of autism is required.autists also generally hold more extreme political beliefs. one half of the playerbase is a bunch of trannies, the other half hates their guts but knows to hold their tongues.just recently i had a game where a tranny kicked someone for saying nigger, but the vote was 50/50 so everyone else chimed in saying "man who'd say the evil NIGGER word?"
>>724293097TF2 is one of the best games ever made and OW is console slop made by hack devs.
>>724295398The sole reason to learn a second language as an english-speaker is to consume untranslated media. There is no other purpose unless you just find learning languages fun.
>>724296409I mean more pertinently TF2 released 18 years ago and has had basically no advertising in over a decade. To me it's pretty retarded but there ARE people that will just straight up refuse to play a game that's "too old" and multiplayer.
>>724295548ironically the only tf2 youtuber that can seem to consistently fill servers now is shounic who is more of a TF2 data aggregator and "what-if" developer, and hosts a 100-man server
IS there any point getting into TF2 today?I have literally never played it so I could not compare it to previous versions, but is its current state fun?
>>724296874it's no worse than it was some 15 years ago
>>724293417Meanwhile, in reality>matchmaking gets effectively killed>players have to actually use dedicated servers>over 300,000 TF2fags, basically the entire remaining playerbase, all comes together to beg for matchmaking, says TF2 is dead without it and will stop playing if they don't have it
>>724293097>Community servers>Community-made maps (which can be anything, from TF2's art style to a literal one-to-one port of N64 Hyrule Field)>Cosmetic and taunt updates, adding new methods of hilarious interactions into the game>Expressive lovable characters that cannot be ruined officially due to aging/deceased voice actors>Doesn't take itself too seriously but follows its own rules>No skill ceiling, even the best players at this game still die frequently>People can spray images of their autistic fixations or literal porn to ogle at with the fellas>Matches can be literally anything from a war-torn tryhardfest where you need to constantly watch your back, or everyone going friendly and stacking on top of each other while dancing (or a mix of both)>One of the last few bastions of free speech where you can just say a lot of crazy shit and nobody will care if you're joking or being serious because it's that kind of vibe (gay community/Skial servers are a different story)>Bots can't ruin it because people still like to hang out in the game and chill (and even if a bot does get in, both sides work together to kick it)>Community-developed projects like Open Fortress and TF2C are on their way to Steam with loads of new potential (if you want even MORE new weapons, this is probably for you)>TF2 didn't force it's memes>Hardly anything about it appeals to women (trannies are a different story) so you'll never see a complete 180 in tone or change in direction>NO GIRLS ALLOWED
>>724296874You could make a REALLY strong case for the balance changes 10 years ago being dumb, but in the end basically the only two classes that got their stock loadouts fucked were spy and pyro.And spy you can get around by just not disguising and using the inviswatch.
>>724297141plus spy gets the benefit of being as fast as medic now
>>724297087Just because people hate you zesty doesn't mean people are completely unwilling to play on user servers.
>>724297087yeah it turns out the easiest entrypoint for the game being under stranglehold from weird retards and obsessed spammers actually is a bad thing and actually should be fixeddon't forget that server owners were being total niggers about pinion ads and other such during the days of quickplay
>>724297087...or, Valve could just put back Quickplay, the glorified server browser that could automatically funnel you into a game without depending on an external matchmaking system
>>724295263>TF players might wanna wait until Blizzard actually shuts down Overwatchthey did tho :)this is overwatch "2", remember?>>724295204>The first summer update boosted numbers way up but then it peteredfrankly, i don't see how the MvM update could change anything in that regardtf2 is stable, there's absolutely no way in hell to gain a new audience for this game, anyone that ever wanted to play this game played it already.they could release the best update of all time, completely rebalancing weapons, fixing 99% of bugs, putting a new coat of paint over it, and i doubt the average over the long run would change more than 10%
The real action is on deadlock.
>>724295830There was a lot of """controversy""" on those community servers. Normal people like me don't care about that shit, I just hung out with other engies and did silly shit on custom maps and goofed off, it's the trannies who make a mountain out of a molehill and make the server owners feel like they have to escape the internet and shut down everything.People just want an outlet and want to have fun, trannies take words too seriously and think that people are gonna crawl out of their screen and hurt them physically.
>>724295850>Valve has a large group of sycophants.>People are so ingratiated into the valve systemconsidering the other side is people who play blizzard games, i would stop throwing stones in the glass hsouse
>>724297327You're not even the same genre and Valve didn't probably ain't putting out a Linux SDK for it either so it's gonna have no maps
>>724295938>new hats come out>wait for the billions of pajeets to open them up at $3 per key>buy the hats I want on the Steam Market for literal penniesActual mouth-breathing retards will still spend money on keys and crates.
>>724297361mostly seems like he's trying to say "valve is... le CULT" without actually using the cult word
>>724296940Ignore Mr. Oldfag here, who still participates in this thread despite Valve "ruining" his favorite game with hates 15 years ago. He enjoys shitting on the game and making YouTube videos where he screams at Valve, but still plays it. Kind of like those people who claim to hate faggots but still secretly have gay fantasies.It's still a fantastic game due to a lot, for me it's especially the community servers/community maps. I often find myself quitting and then immediately getting back on the game because no other game has the same kind of autistic community that meshes well with me.Fuck the trannies in this game, though, they're terrible. Creative bastards, but emotionally unstable (and always Pyro).
Playercount only matters to a point. TF2:>is actually fun>has private completely moddable serversThat's it. That's the ballgame. I respect Overwatch for its significant contributions to porn - built off the backs of Gmod and Source Filmmaker, for that matter - but it's night and day. Party/v/an TF2 severs have been around since most of you ingrates were just a twinkle in the eye of the neighborhood rottweiler - Overwatch just won't have that same resilience.
>>724297362Deadlock is gonna be huge. Unlike overwatch this game has lore and better gameplay than overwatch. I like all three but I would say deadlock is the best multiplayer experience I have ever enjoyed since 2010.
>>724297361where's the amogus?
>>724297620>despite Valve "ruining" his favorite game suck a railroad spike, i love the game
>>724293218thats a good thing retardalso>player count being high means the game is goodsee: fornite, roblox
>>724293417>>724297087i have no problems with matchmaking, save for the retards on each team who stand in the middle not shooting and taunting at each other
>>724297735replace left with shitty ugly slop meme hats and taunts and then post this again
>>724297218>or, Valve could just put back Quickplay...that's still you begging for a matchmaker, you zoom zoom retard.Instead, you could justOPENTHESERVERBROWSERANDPICKONEANDJOINIT
>>724298301Unfortunately, Australia has some pretty shite comm servers currently>Skial>Uncle Groomer>24/7 servers>Jump maps (Fun, but not when I want to load a vanilla game of TF2)
>>724297667>imagedont forget that>scout has a weapon that does that as well. and its description describes it as embarrassing for the slapped person>there are several achievements based on aggravating other players, causing them to swap classes on death, killing them while they try to be friendly, and even making them ragequit.
>>724298301It's actually him demanding that Valve specifically provide him with real people.The elephant in the room that nobody wants to acknowledge is that FUCKING NOBODY wants to interact with the kind of retards demanding quickplay be brought back, and anyone that wants to can play with their actual friends and extended groups since TF2 has steam multiplayer these days.It literally doesn't occur to them (and I can't entirely blame them) to do this because they have literally 0 friends.
>>724297667>Overwatch protects the trannies>They all play on TF2 and whine whenever someone says something awful, joking or notlol, lmao
>>724293218No, I'm pretty sure it's gone up a lot. Surprisingly
>>724293097>game features balanced 6v6 matches>you'll have the worst experiences in gaming>game features 10v10+ matches>you will have the best time in your life
>>724298410>SkialActual shite and their servers need to crumble before another new empire. They ban literally anyone for anything and it's honestly a little hilarious. I was reading their ban list a few weeks ago and laughing at how many people were getting banned (not because they were bots, but because they were HECKIN' meanies). TF2 players kill their own community by making these little freak safe space cliques.>Uncle DaneBoring as shit and worse than LazyPurple servers>24/7 serversI'm autistic as fuck but I've already spent four thousand hours on 2fort and Dustbowl. Not enough DR servers or maps like cyberpunk, psykopat, or habbo running anymore, it's always this vanilla shit. If they ran community maps it would be fine, but it's always the same two. Nobody even runs the remade TFC version of 2fort and it's fucking amazing.>Jump mapsI hate surf maps but these are unironically worse
>>724297087>>over 300,000 TF2fags, basically the entire remaining playerbase, all comes together to begand then the driver and all passengers stood up and clapped and cheered for anon the troon, who can cut off his dick and become a woman, and lie about everything else and everyone believes him!
>>724293097It's actually just fun
>>724295687A decade ago those people were just the furfags you were playing with, they all just ended up trooning out
>>724298301the problem is discovery, quickplay brought a good stream of new players to community servers overall.you know what you find now when you open the server browser? and endless fucking stream of uncletopia, skial, utg, potato.tf, and whatever else has a million copy paste servers that are just vanilla+. server discovery is dead because of this crap.
>>724298301No it isn't. It's a retard-friendly version of the browser where players can either look for specific servers or have the game automatically get them into a match. It doesn't need Valve's serverside coordinator like casual mode does. The only community servers which suffer from it are those which have non-vanilla rules.
>>724298410The problem is that the solution is (You)(You) are supposed to be on and populating servers, but you don't want to do it. Every one of you is constantly worried about having to get something going, and the possibility that you might end up holding the bag as you sit on a server and wait for others to also nut up and join, only for them to potentially not to.It can be fixed by just everyone collectively growing balls and actually want to play the game instead of being entitled, but the key thing of transitioning to being a TF2tranny is that you lose your balls in the sex change operation.
>>724299304I mean me personally I still see plenty of vanilla furfags running around.Especially during halloween.
>>724299515How am I supposed to populate a server that doesn't exist?I could always make one though, I got a spare computer that I don't mind running...
>>724299515>>724299575Or you guys could just stop being faggots nobody likes and then you'd never have this urgent problem of needing a flow of new people to play with instead of actual friends.>inb4 cope about how internet friends aren't real
>>724293097It didn't
>>724299643I like playing with randos. Friends are cool and all, but nothing like finding a spontaneous game with complete strangers.
>>724298772>TF2 34,622 "In-Game">valve server 3,563 players>community server 1,348 players>community comp. server 26 players>Bots in empty servers 4,088 bots>Bots in occupied servers 843 bots>24k AFK bots>Overwatch 2 steam only(no ps4/5, Xbox, switch 1/2, Battle.net) - 14,871 players right nowUh oh, TF2 sisters... I dont feel good...
>>724295487Yes I'm sure all 19 console owners in 2025 are playing a woke hero shooter from 10 years ago
>>724295687Maybe stop logging onto troon servers. Everyone I've met since I reinstalled it last month have been chill drunk racists with good banter.
>>724298978>>724298410what happened to the 24/7 Payload map shuffle servers?Shit's the literal best game mode.
>>724294440Zoomers and the nigger culture influence have butchered the English language more than any ESL could. Oh and don't forget the TikTok censor shaping the whole language too.
>>724298410be glad you at least have that try South Africa>nothing>nothing>nothing>one mge server with 2 people on iteveryone just plays casual so gay
The whole Overwatch vs TF2 """rivarly""" always felt like one-sided screeching from the severely autistic TF2fags on the site who view anything vaguely similar to TF2 as competition that has loudly proclaimed that it's there to destroy TF2>inb4 "overwatchfag" or some shitty gmod screenshotsOverwatch is trash
>>724298301>Playing on nu-community serversThe average IQ there is somehow lower than in regular matchmaking.
>>724302119No, it's from jaded exTF2 players who shit on everything.
>>724301262>citing teamwork.tf, the website known to report incorrect numbers>believing that any console casuals are playing OW2>not understanding that steam brings in way more players than you'd get offsiteoh no no no no no...
>>724302119>competition that has loudly proclaimed that it's there to destroy TF2you werent here ten years ago. that is quite literally the exact thing overwatch fans did.
reminder that blizztroons had an OFFICIAL pride month for OW2 with LGBT flags everywhere, any critique about the state of tf2 playerbase is always gonna be reflected back at them tenfold
>>724302542>citing teamwork.tf, the website known to report incorrect numbersYou keep saying this and you keep never backing it up, everGo ahead, anon. Post the REAL numbers. We're all interested. The servers are all visible, so you should be able to count them just as well. Do it, blow us all away.
>>724303736already did earlier in the thread>inb4 doesnt countcope overtard.
>>724302240To be fair, considering that the last time anything positive was added to the game was- very generously- 2012, anyone with a fucking brain is an "exTF2 player".
>>724302579I was and no it didn'tStop taking bait and shitposts seriously
>>724295687in a casual match? i play a lot of tf2 and never see that. you got unlucky
>>724293097by being the better game
>>724294202Coincidentally that's also what the average modern overwatch player looks like.
>>724297087Matchmaking killed tf2 for me. It used to be so easy to join a server and get playing
>>724297327shitgame
>>724293097Never played TF does it play like every shitty Valve game with floating unsatisfying shooting?
>>724306428It's one of the few games that has a weapon selection that isn't just slight variations of the same bullet hoseSo there will be something you like
Unironically bots, same shit with garden warfare 2
>>724307041>So there will be something you likeI don't think I could name a single Valve game weapon that I like. Unlike Quakes Railgun or UT Shock Rifle
>>724293097hotter characters
>>724307089He's never been kritz'ed as sniper. sad.
it's actually fun
>>724298410When i play on skial servers its cool, its basically shitposting. Lots of racism, politics, blaming the jews, drunk people, high people, retards, people ranting on voicechat, people talking shit. Idk man its just fun. Maybe its because i play mostly at 2 a.m.
>>724298410I have had 0 troubles with skial or unclefaggot
>>724295426>>724295105>>724293268I never even played overwatch but it's got more daily players on steam alone, and tf2 is only on steam.no teamwork.tf needed
>>724297667I wish the speed buff would last longer than a fraction of a second so I could actually use this thing without making my melee slot completely inert.
>>724294769You benefit massively from learning my language and have tons of media you're interested in that encourage you to do so. Learning your language is a complete waste of time for me and there's nothing your culture has produced driving me to do it. You purposefully come to websites full of English speakers because you want to talk to them. I wish I could talk to you people less. We are not the same.
>>724313353huh
>>724309317>40k is more than 51kinteresting hypothesis
>>724313353Fucking rekt
>>724313850>sneedposter doesn't understand how current players can be different from daily players
>>724313943>needs to cherrypick the one chart where OW is actually marginally higher instead of any of the others where TF2 knocks it out of the parki accept your conceshun
>>724293097Genuine tranny appeal instead of fake manufactured tranny appeal
>>724294202she is so cute
>>724305291overwatchfags are either ugly femcels or microbeins whiteboy gooners
>>724314178daily players is a bigger and more accurate sample size and less swayed by idle bots which still plague tf2
>tf2 doesn't have waifus and is actually a good game>/v/ throws a tantrum and will lap up any garbage as long as they can masturbate to itSad! I bet the lot of you unironically like Fortnite too.
>>724293097Because in OW2 you can get permabanned for just saying 'GG no re' once too often, whereas in TF2 you can write an entire essay in the chatroom about which Eeveelution is the most optimal for milking human cocks dry 24/7 without getting a single report if your teammates are fellow men of culture.
its been 10 years guysand there's one special group of people still seething
>>724317307pretending like tf2 isn't a quintessential /v/ game despite it having a party van for fucking years is certainly a way to frame your post. maybe lurk for 2 years before posting.
>>724319573The new crowd that infested /v/ hates older games if they can't jerk off to them. Look how much people on this board unironically worship gacha.
>>724295426We wuz having player's n shiettttt Out of those humble 40k 90% are bots and cheaters, not a flex you think it is
>TF2 in 2025If you aren't making eastern europeean troon cheaters kill themselves you are not playing it right.
>>724293758They literally murdered Overwatch's esports scene with their bare hands. They didn't balance for comp either.
the three game design albatrosses around overwatch's neck are hero switching, widowmaker, and 2cp and sadly they're stuck with two of those
>>724293097>How did TF2 managed to outlast OW2?never flaunting pyro and her tits helped a lot (figure left to the imagination)
>>724321513It's funny to me how often anons use OW as an example of esports killing a game or how you shouldn't balance around the top 1%. A game that became a joke competitively precisely because they kept catering to bad players until the entire meta for a year had like one person on a team even playing a hero that required aim.
>>724293097TF2 killbind ragdoll funny. OW2 no killbind no funny. Its simple.
>>724321147i have russian skid cheater fatiguei wish they had their own server and stayed in there so goddamn much
