Professor Tolkien once said that evil cannot create anything new, but only corrupt or destroy what is good. Only recently did I understand the truth of those words.Cherish your adventures. Preserve them. You never know how good you have it until one spiteful degenerate like Toby Fox comes in to take it all away.
>>724294671>Professor Tolkien once said that evil cannot create anything newIs that why you faggots are only capable of making the same fucking threads over and over?
>>724294671Spoken like a real [small shot].
>>724294671Do not tolerate anyone who tells you the stories that you've loved since you were a little boy only serve to be spat on. Evil can only subvert.
>>724294751OP FUCKING ANNIHILATED>HE'S BROWN!>HE'S THIRD WORLD!>HE'S IN HIS MOM'S BASEMENT!
>>724294995are parodies and blatant stealing necessarily disrespect?
>>724294671>until one spiteful degenerate like Toby Fox comes in to take it all away.What does that entail, and how does it apply to deltarune?
>>724295907He patented RPGs so nobody can make them anymore.
>>724294995It's called parody and it's usually made from a place of affection. Clearly Toby Fox loves classic JRPG's. His humor is good natured. He isn't trying to convince you they actually suck.
>>724296031YOU MONSTER, TOBY!
>>724294671Toby Fox isn't stopping you from masturbating to elves or however you spend your free time
>>724294671???
>>724295907He made the popular one now, and it spits on you for playing it. The game hit its lowest low in chapter 4, where it truly deprives your character of everything, from character interactions to even animations. Heart.png is not treated as a character, while Kris is. I wanted the Legend of Deltarune, that the game promised in chapter 1 not this. It feels like my 7 years spent waiting was wasted for a game that does everything in its power to prevent me from having an fantasy rpg like I like them.>>724295885>>724296147Having your player character side with its world's version of the AntiChrist, then pretend none of it happened, feels like disrespect. I wanted a noble knight, and I got a blue cockroach instead. That moment in chapter 4 made me disconnect with everything that happened in the game, because as far as I see it, I see no in-universe reason to continue after Kris 1) refuses to collect essential items for plot progression, 2) spawns the cancer that is a Dark Fountain on a whim, and 3) refuses to even let me have opinions. Remember that bit where he refused to let me honest about Ralsei?It all feels like an act of spite on the part of Toby Fox, towards rpg fans, and fantasy fans as well.
>>724296450must be a government funded satanic grooming project like most furry media and social circles.
>>724296450>>724296757I'm starting to think you might be latinx.
>>724296147Troony believes he is intellectually and morally superior to all the silly japs he is stealing from and the one that finally did it right.
>>724296450To put it a bit more simply, I wanted more of this from the game. What it advertised itself as. The three Heroes of Light going from Dark World to Dark World where objects come to life, facing off against the servants of the false Knight creating the Dark Fountains ,having confrontation with the villain himself from time to time.
>Stuck in a hell where the only people not posting shitty bait or didn't actually play the game are Yaggots>This is going to be every monday until a newsletter comes out, and even that's not even a guarantee
>>724297017But... that wouldn't be subversive... and if you don't make a subversive story then how will you impress the audience so that they know how smart you are?
>>724297017Not this. This I did not want, and it's stuff like this that infects ever role-playing game now. The poison of subversion. Can it be so hard to play a story straight?
What the schizo? Take your meds!
What does this have to do with Deltarune?
>>724297101Are you retarded?
>>724297101how is it subversion when noelle wanted susie to fuck her since day 1?
anons play a game where the first chapter is about how you should be nice and sweet and not hurt your friends, and doing the route where you hurt your friends plays evil scaries music, and anon is confused why there's gay shit in chapter 4 as if gay shit isn't the name of the fucking game it's the gay furry handholding game 2 made by the gay handholding furry homo toby fox, whos favorite ship is fishlizard, and was forged in the fires of andrew hussie's basement as a fan of homestuck which is filled to the brim with GAY HANDHOLDING SHITjust because you think sans is cool doesn't make undertale not gay
>>724297089The way the Lord of the Rings did. The way Zelda Ocarina of Time did. Make something timeless. Knights, and magic, and honor, and the power of the Soul against evil. That's how. I might one day make a "Legend of Delta Rune" thing to try and express this feeling.>>724297617hope not.>>724297669Suselle is worthless. Not what I was referring to regardless. Kris here has sided with the game's Antichrist, who's been prophesized to bring forth the Roaring in Kris's religion since the day he started his life in this town. And the game treats it as a big dumb joke.>>724297748I don't care about Homestuck. But when I was in school, no one in my circle talked about gay anything in Undertale.
>>724296450>>724297017>>724297101>I played Undertale 2 and I expected it to be a straightforward heroic fantasyAlright well it's not Toby Fox's fault that you're a retard.
>>724297748If Undertale's so gay why haven't I got a male wife after playing it? Checkmate, atheists
>>724297857When I saw the new gameplay mechanics, I genuinely thought he was done lecturing players and was ready to make a game to stand with the rest of my favorites. This generation's Chrono Trigger, we could have gotten.
>>724297836Damn that sucks, I think the game is already phenomenal despite being unfinished. Deeply moving and positive story. Weird how hung up you get on gay people existing. Or can you just not stop projecting your christian fantasy on Deltarune?
>>724294751>Is that why you faggots are only capable of making the same fucking threads over and over?No, that's just to make the mad ocelot god stop screaming at me.
>>724297857retarded for expecting something remotely in theme with the prequel? youre just making excuses for your fucked up furry groomer fetishes.
>>724297836>But when I was in school, no one in my circle talked about gay anything in Undertale.undertale literally has a lesbian dating segment and mettaton exists>Kris here has sided with the game's Antichristyou converted to xtianity 3 days ago congratulations
>>724297047Also the Yagischizos getting b& for shitting on the Janny's pet
>>724298093Yes, if you expected the sequel to Undertale to be like Chrono Trigger you are a retard. Don't know what else to tell you.
>>724298102whats gay about mettaton?
>>724298008I find nothing moving when none of the experiences are for my character. Whole appeal of games being interactive and all.I know gays exist. Exist where I don't have to watch, not in unskippable cutscenes during normal gameplay. And don't make me participate in the gay to progress the game.Did I say I was Christian? I'm not, but I love the ideal of the Chivalric Knight battling demons.>>724298102Mettaton is literally a machine. I don't know what you are talking about.>>724298196Steam page of Deltarune cited Chrono Trigger as an inspiration.
>>724298093>retarded for expecting something remotely in theme with the prequel?>in themein what fucking universe is undertale chrono trigger>>724298258when you're older your parents might tell you about gay people
>whats gay about mettaton?Like what are you supposed to say to these people, they walk into a gay bar and ask where all the women are and also why the bartender doesn't love HitlerNobody can help you if you're just too stupid to stop getting mad at everything
>>724294751FPBP
>>724298302considering fnaf and now deltarune as well as other furry games i think their whole shit has been compromised by child rape cultists.
>>724298261so it's not gay for a male character to have makeup, high heel boots, moan, bite his lip, and call everyone darling? /v/ went WOKE
>>724298473He's an actor. A performer. Have you never heard of a peacock?
>>724298576peacocks are the gayest fucking animals ever
>>724298576You mean a faggot in drag?
>>724296450Retard, you'll get what you want in later chaptersThe game isn't finished yet, and if your problem is Kris's agency and double agenda that was first teased all the way back in chapter 1's ending, if you expected anything else that's on you being RETARDED
>>724298689How? They look this way to attract females?
>>724298826and they look gay
>>724294751No one has been able to refute this /Thread
>>724298816My problem is that my character gets nothing while Kris gets everything. I don't even have an in-universe incentive to continue. How can the later chapters get me what I want, if the damage has already been done.Make your jokes, But I didn't think it could get worse than a midnight snack for some pie. It got worse, and the game pretends it never happened. Every moment after Noelle's house feels so incredibly fake as a result, because my character gets nothing all the while.
>>724294751OP can you address this first post?
>>724298953I'm new to /v/.
>>724298942First ever Deltarune player to get attached to the Soul
>>724294671trvke, really riled up the undertroons
>>724298261Yea idk, like its a story man. Why are you obsessed with your specific role? I'm moved by the character's experiences. I don't need to personally be there. The role of the soul, the player, as an outside force puppeting Kris is super interesting to me. It seems incredibly strange to me to demand that someone else's art conform to your specific standards. Make your own game, fag.
Crusader of Light? Is that you?
>>724299004I literally have nothing else.>>724299047It is a ROLE-PLAYING GAME. I'm not sorry that I have standards to have a genuine role in a role-playing game. I don't know how to make games at all. Nor should I have to It's like telling a film critic to make his own films. Not his job to make film, his job to review it. It's not my job to make games either.
>>724298942Your in-universe incentive depends squarely on how you feel about its characters and its world, and what you want to do in the limited capacity you're given to interact with that world.I mean did you expect being able to tell Susie or Ralsei about Kris's betrayal? Ralsei is probably aware of it and Kris blocks you at every turn if you try to tell Susie.You want to have your story about honorably saving the worlds from the roaring? That's exactly what you're getting in the end, you depend on Kris realizing his mistakes or taking over through an alternative route, but if you're too hung over the morality of the characters that's probably not an option for you
>>724299284You do have a role you dumb bitch, hahaha. Your role is the parasitic outside force necessary to carry out the prophecy (or perhaps subvert it). Play the game lmao.wjkmg
>>724299284>I literally have nothing else.You do, you could stop playing it since the game shows you that you're not in control since Chapter 1. Why are you torturing your poor autistic mind by continuing to play?
The kind of man who enjoys undertale and/or deltarune is also the kind of man who drinks vegan pistachio lattes, collects small chatchkis, and votes in municipal elections.
>>724299351That's stupid. Give me a character that walks and talks and is treated as a character. It's like playing as the speck on Link's boot.>>724299368Because I already invested time into it. Because I enjoy the gameplay, and I like the music. I really like the Spade King fight.>>724299340I expected the game to not ignore it the way it did. For Kris to leave the party. Why battle anything or talk to anything, if it's Kris doing all that and not my character?
>>724299640But it is your character, you're the one moving around, choosing dialogue options, fighting or sparing enemies, you don't have full control on the light world, but you do in the dark world.The premise since the very first game is that you're taking over someone else's body. The game isn't ignoring anything
>>724299640Wow it really is Crusader of Light. How are you still so mad
>>724299767My character's opinion isn't valued. It is not treated as a character. I haven't taken over anything, if Kris can do so much damage anywhere at any time.
>>724294671>Professor Tolkien once said that evil cannot create anything new, but only corrupt or destroy what is good.He didn't, actually.>Cherish your adventures. Preserve them. You never know how good you have it until one spiteful degenerate like Toby Fox comes in to take it all away.Deltarune is closer to Tolkien than anything you actually like.
>>724294751I don't like toby but this was a good post, made me kek >>724294995So what, everything that doesn't meet your expectations and presents a different outcome is evil? You're a stupid faggot.
>>724300034What the fuck does OP actually like? I couldn't imagine anything being further from Tolkien's work than a tranny game adapted from Earthbound and Homestuck fanfictions.
>>724296450>Having your player character side with its world's version of the AntiChrist, then pretend none of it happened, feels like disrespect.What do you mean the story pretends it never happened? Kris being on the side of the knight is key to most of chapter 4. Redemption and mercy are major themes in Tolkien as well.
>>724299967What do you mean it isn't valued, Ralsei directly talks to the player many times, congratulating them on their efforts, or their choices, the only time he has ever said something good about Kris is after Susie breaks the prophecy and he tells Kris they played well the piano.Everyone in town remarks how much better adjusted you are in comparison to how Kris usually acts, and even Susie's friendship towards Kris is won through your efforts
>>724298374Being a fop isn't inherently gay and never has been.
>>724298905>Being gay is not having sex with men>Being gay is attracting womenPeak logic.
>>724299430>who drinks vegan pistachio lattes,Genuinely better than normal milk.
>>724299871Because I waited 4 years, and my patience has not rewarded me. Because I want role-playing games to go back to the way they used to be.>>724300073If you subvert my entertainment and replace it, you are evil to me.>>724300127 The whole Dark Sanctuary areas play out as if it's all the Knight. And there has been no mercy towards my character.>>724300154Ralsei is talking to Kris. I did not do anything to get Susie's friendship. How could I? My character didn't talk to her once.
>>724300250Phytoestrogenized hands typed your post.
OP is a namefag from /utg/ who posted his face because Deltarune made him so mad he had to prove a point, look up Crusader of Light in the archives
>>724300116OP probably watched the Lord of the Ring movies and somehow deluded themselves into thinking this is what all fantasy, and specifically all Tolkien is, even though the movies are very different from the books.
>>724300291>The whole Dark Sanctuary areas play out as if it's all the Knight. There are multiple moments where they repeat the fact that Kris and the knight are working together. >>724300325Drinking actual cow milk causes far, FAR more harm to your hormones than broccoli.
>>724300291The people in town constantly, and I do mean CONSTANTLY that when you're choosing dialogue options, Kris's voice sounds different. There's emphasis when Ralsei is talking to you directly, and when they're talking to Kris, hell Ralsei only talks to Kris directly while you're present in the scene I mentioned, every other time he gets you to spectate Susie to have a private word with KrisYou're either bullshitting me or you're actually unironically a retard
Are there any grown men who aren’t mentally ill manchildren who actually enjoy anything made by Toby Fox? I don’t find it surprising that /v/ suck his scrawny cock considering this place is full of reddit migrants and children
>>724300502>you're actually unironically a retardHe is mentally disturbed.
>>724300523Anyone posting on /v/ has at least a drop of manchild in their soul and a smidge of mentally ill.Yes that does include you and me.
>>724300425Ok, what does that have to do with my post? Trannytale and Undertroon are still vast cosmic oceans separated from Tolkien's work.
>>724300523>Are there any grown men who aren’t mentally ill manchildren who actually enjoy anything made by Toby Fox?Yes.It's one of the rare few games that actually makes you feel like games used to make you feel as a little kid. Biggest issue overall is lack of challenge and slow release schedule.
>>724300624it did. Before you know what happened and ruined it for me. Could have been this generation's Chrono Trigger.
>>724300624What games were you playing as a kid that had trannies in them?
>>724300550Oh I’m not denying that much, I’m over 30 and still play video games and post here (pathetic no?) just that I thought it not in the vein of /v/ to enjoy something like this 15 years ago.
>>7243005801: The actual Lord of the Ring movies are far closer to Undertale and Deltarune than the books. 2: It highlights the fact you don't actually care much about Tolkien and are just using it as a cuddle while really only caring about the movies.
>>724296226freezypop...
>>724300291Words cannot begin to describe how unfathomably stupid you are. I'm not even angry. I've seen a lot of stupid, mind boggingly ape-like posts that made me react, that forced me to reply in earnest with intention of dunking on them. And it might be because I'm going through a crisis of emotion in my personal life, but I feel nothing. I stopped by the thread. I made a reply calling you a retard. You responded back with something that is objectively, definitively, absolutely so utterly stupid and incompatible with the reality of life that I feel like it has to be a bit because you're bored. But why? Who wastes their time like this, posting on a website like this, making a thread like is, acting out inorganic seething like this, just to spend a night on Sunday going into Monday? So you're either one of the most mundanely idiotic creatures who ever somehow manages to keep taking consequent breaths or you're just a loser with nothing better to do in his life and I don't know which is worse. Either way: you are a colossal waste of oxygen and an idiot. Like I said, I feel nothing towards you. I feel as much indifference to you and your one response to me as if I were looking at a lone ant. Maybe I'm getting old now and realizing how some people really are just... insignificant and will never amount to anything. And I know in my soul that you are a prime example of an insignificant ant posing as a human being. Anyway. I'm hiding this thread now because I am choosing not to engage further in your complete delusions or pretend play any sane man can easily dismantle and wholly deserves ridicule, humiliation and bullying.You'll never be able to reply to me ever again. Seethe about it for a lifetime. Retard.
>>724300661>Could have been this generation's Chrono Trigger.like, have you even played chrono trigger, dood
>>724300624Wanting to be a little kid again betokens -a modicum of mental illness.
Chapter 5 better NOT release in Summer of 2026 or later, or I swear to DOG...
>>724294751fpbp
So you guys gonna do anything Deltarune-y on Halloween?Celebrate any birthdays?Crank your hog?
>>724300661>Could have been this generation's Chrono Trigger.Chrono Trigger was a one in a lifetime of miracle of some insanely talented people coming together to basically make a game as a jam session after a entire generation of frankly staggeringly good JRPG games that are still beloved today. Deltarune is a passion project of one developer after his previous game unexpectedly blew up. Toby is great and all. But getting a game made by Square in it's prime, with music by some of the most famous and popular composers in the industry, and art done by freaking Akira Toriyama is always going to be in a league of it's own.>>724300662A surprising amount of Nintendo games.
>>724300772It's not wanting to be a little kid again. It's feeling a modicum of genuine wonder and a sense of artistry playing video games after decades of games going out of their way to destroy that.
>>724300712Holy shit. OP utterly blown the fuck out
>>724300861Most deltatroon fans are transgender so they’ll probably kill themselves, mass suicide mayhap?
>>724300871>Akira ToriyamaA dead hack cuck btw but I digress
>>724301068>HackHe's a once in a lifetime talent and his skill as a artist is unmatched. Even if you don't like Dragon Ball, it really can't be understated how big his influence was on Japanese pop culture. The guy essentially defined what fantasy is supposed to look like.
>/dbs/ meme>phone filename>thread started during daytime in asia
>>724301143I love CHADgon CHAD, but Daipa (his last word) sucked
>>724300712OPxirs, our response?
>>724301215I should finish Daipa someday...
>>724300712I like role-playing games. I like fantasy stories. I like knights, magic, the works. I saw Deltarune back in 2018 with the silver and blue knight for its protagonist walking around while the "Scarlet Forest" theme was playing, and thought I would like it. I saw the expanded battle system with multiple characters and I enjoyed that. I just think the story changed from what it initially was, adding robots and science fiction cities and stuff, into something I'm not the biggest fan of. That's not to mention the Soul thing that drives me up a wall.But there are games I do like. I like the n64 Zeldas, I like Dark Souls, I like Chrono Trigger, and Final Fantasy 4 and 9, and Dragon Quest 11 and I like Hollow Knight, now those games are some of my absolute favorites. And Undertale as well. I just wish that I could have added Deltarune to the list, or know what the game was before I played it. You call me stupid for having a clear preference.
>>724301571Undertale was never a traditional fantasy story. It's closer to Persona 4 than D&D. First setting is only knight themed because it's based on a bunch of toys in a locked classroom. Something intelligent people would have figured out very quickly. >I like Chrono TriggerChrono Trigger features literal Sci fi cities (Or at least it's ruins) and the entire central plot is about a giant space parasite. Even the actual medieval segment is largely deconstructed when you realize that the "Monsters" the humans are fighting are actually just servants from a ancient civilization.
>>724301192SEAmonkeys are the most vile subhumans on the planet. You shouldn't be surprised at the current quality of /v/.
>>724298258He's David Bowie mixed with tranny allegories
>>724301726I always thought Undertale was more like Alice in Wonderland. Deltarune even more so.
>>724301906was there a lot of cucking in alice in wonderland too?
>>724301906>I always thought Undertale was more like Alice in WonderlandIt has a lot of fairy tale vibes, but I would PROBABLY compare it more to something like Wizard of Oz. If only because it isn't all a dream (Yes, It was a dream in the Wizard of Oz movie, I'm aware) and it actually feels like a place you can live in.It mostly reminds me of a more noblebright Touhou though. The monsters are likeable and friendly, unlike Touhou, but they are locked up, like the human villagers in Touhou.
>>724301897David Bowie was straight. He literally made a movie where he was a shoujo fuckboy trying to marry a teenager.
>>724302054>straightOut of all celebrities, he's one of the few that was probably honest about his sexual preferences. The guy said he was bi at a time where that shit wouldn't do him any favors.
>>724302313He flirted with a lot of sexual identities and it was partially just to seem counter culture. He was a showman first and foremost.
>>724301745The guy calling Deltarune a potential Chrono Trigger is a white boy who lives in some kind of autistic people's housing, based on images he has posted
>>724294671Wtf`?
>>724294751It's not often that the first reply is gold.
