Naoki Hamaguchi says Expedition 33 is his Game of the Year!uhmm.... ff7 sisters?
>>724295353shut up retard
Rebirth was last year
>>724295409>guy isn't jewish>is being humble and rooting for the runner up when he's aheadbased
Xisters I'm losing my fucking mind we're losing the narrative war to the Final Faggots how do we turn this around
>>724295409>shilling other stuff for free
>>724295353Yea it has real time elements unlike garbage like metaflop.
>>724295918the term shill has lost all meaning here
>>724295353>>724295409both based af
>>724295353Has to be Nightreign as a unique gaming experience
>>724295353The 7 Remakes are better than plebbit 33
is ex-33 that good? avoided all the threads when everyone wa spamming it because ive been let down by /v/ a couple times and ignore blatant shilling, but seems like everyone is still creaming themselves over this shit. guess ill wait for a sale like 2 years down the line when all the dust is settled and have forgotten any spoilers i may have come across in passing while browsing here
>nepobaby billionaire funded asset flip with celebrity voice actors
>>724296760I'd say so.Few games have this board like it in unison barring some third worlders and schizos.
>>724296585No they're not>>724296760It's quite good but people overhyping it will ruin it. It's not the greatest ever or mindblowing but it is definitely worth trying at least. I had no expectations going in and loved it, but all I heard about it at that point was screenshots shared around on /v/
>>724296760its cheap lazy asset flip, people are only judging it based on the cutscenes like its a movie, not for its gameplay or exploration.
>>724296848Yes they are
>>724297056>>724296871No they aren't
>>724297185Yes they are
>>724295353Maybe I'm trusting the experts for once.
>>724297883hella based
Spineless. I would proclaim my game to be THE GREATEST even if it was dogshit
>>724295353This is very difficult for me because anything viir devs say must be objectively true and supported but e33 is the enemy and must be undermined at every oppertunity.I dont know what to do about this
>fanbases acting like tribalistic retards while the directors of these games hang out irl
>>724296760I'm playing it right now and really enjoying it. The world/music/characters are all pretty great and reminds me when games in general would just throw you into an insane fantasy world like likable niggas who happen to be in a row. Gameplay is fun theres a lot of messing around with synergies of effects and combat is like Paper Mario. So like basically it reminds me of at least 3 things before they went to shit the last being France itself. And maybe the whole world. I'm pretty sure that's what the game is about.
>>724296848I should have added this to my last post saying how I enjoyed the game to that guy who wanted to play it. Overhype almost ruined the game for me because retards were acting very fucking weird about and almost turned me off but I waited till a sale and got it and avoided all discussion ahead of time. I even see people on expedition 33 webzones mock those people who think it's the only good jrpg on the last 20 years. But its actually good.
>>724295353I thought rebirth was from 2024
>>724301254It's the same with metaphor. People have an autistic obsession towards FF and they use it to advertise the other games instead with shitposting. For some reason nobody compare new jrpgs with P5 or DQ11
Why do they hype this up like the Oscars Nobody even likes the Oscars anymore like the biggest it's done in eons was the fucking will Smith slap Why is it when normies infiltrate any media hobby they start jerking off awards for it as if they mean something.
>>724296760really bad story
>>724296013Did it ever have any meaning? It's basically always just been a buzzword for "person who likes a game I don't like". Nobody uses the term to actually call out what they believe is shilling. They use it to stifle discussion of games they don't like.
>>724297883>people who make good games can just express their love for other games cause they're not insecure pussies and can have confidence in their own gamesFunny that
>>724296760It's what modern Final Fantasy could have been if Square Enix weren't retarded
>>724297883be funny if the Expedition 33 devs later on openly shun any male gaze as toxic in their nex game and make all their women flat chested (like they currently do).
>>724301339oscars is just j's giving themselves and their favorites awards and circle jerking.They think they can replicate that for gaming where the woke and neutral (Clare Obscura) products gets exposure whilst shunning non-woke and male gaze games. Thing is most people don't care and know it's all pozzed like metacritic scores from establishment game journos.
>>724296760its good. thats it. and you pretty much have to be ok with turn based rpg stuff and timing dodge/parry for it still count as good, because if you dont then its not the game for you.its not 10/10. its not perfect. it has flaws. its pretty and the music is great. for what it is, its fun and cool. its just plain good. as such, i definitely say that its worth it. ignore the glazers and people that put it on a pedestal. ignore the haters. the only "hate" you need to consider is whether you can tolerate a turn based rpg with dodging/parrying QTE timings. if yes: its good and worth it. if no: its probably not for you then, but maybe just look up a cutscene compilation on youtube or something.
>>724295353What a loser. For comparison: on FF series anniversary Toriyama just said his favorite FF is Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII. He's obsessed with Lightning most unapologetically.
>>724296760has the best overworld of any ""jrpg"" i've ever played
>>724296760yes it reminds me of when jrpgs were good and the combat reminds me of legend of dragoon while the story kinda reminds me of star ocean: till the end of timethe music puts squeenix and fatlus to shame
>>724304685>>724304735agreed. last jrpg I remember playing that was this good was lost odyssey. needs to be on pc already.
>>724295353He is correct, because Square Enix are shit.
>>724295409awards are double edges swords, he knows that. if they start getting too much praise, the developers at the studio will start asking for more money and the enshitification will begin
>>724305106or maybe he just enjoys that game and doesn't care about Geoff's gay show
>>724303457If any of the XIII games weren't liquid dogshit you might have a point. As it is, he helped continue the ruination of a franchise for an objectively boring and mediocre waifu.
>>7242967606.5/10. ugly art, ugly characters.garbage story. they went for the lazy GoT shock tier writing but because they forgot the part where after GoT killed all the characters anyone gave a fuck about, the show became utter dog shit. combat is fun until it gets broken by the middle of Act II. Anyone with an IQ above 80 can figure out that running a bunch of multipliers will cause your damage to skyrocketprogression system is ass too. imagine a skill tree where you rush the one good skill in the tree and then just spam it 24/7. that's pretty much E33. the other half of the tree is pointless and you're just wondering what the point of it is.the fact that niggas think it's GOTY or some all time great game is fucking wild to me. it's like superhero slop movie, some niggas might watch it but it's not really worth remembering or giving a fuck about once you're done.
>>724296760It's good but very overrated. Like you will enjoy it you like JRPG's like FFX or Lost Odyssey but don't expect the story to be as good as FFX despite how much fags jerk it off as the seconding coming of Christ.People like it simply because a good JRPG like game that isn't stereotypically anime is like an oasis in the desert.
>>724305168they all went his cock in their ass, if they could get it and not cause problems at the studio they would do itEvery company that gets too much praise will be ruined by it, at least western ones.Think of it from the point of view of you running the company, what would happen to your workers demands over wages if they all get big heads? you either have to pay more on wages to them, or lose them and have to hire new.If you pay more, this increases pressure for success on future games, higher prices, more preorder stuff, less features, lower dev time, more censorship etcIf you don't, you have to take all new people, who are not as good as those that left.The two studios I expect to product slop next time are this company, and Larian.
>>724305313>>724305563schizo hours
>>724305349it has a much better story than FFX
B-but I thought liking E33 meant you were a racist who hates all RPGs like the Eminem fans who hate other rap? Oh no, no, no!
>>724305938yeah X's love story would been so much better if Tidus and Yuna didn't suck
>>724295353humilliation ritual
>>724305938Lmao no. The whole twist completely undermines the characters and raises questions about the morality of killing sapient life and how apparently painters can just do that with no consequences (other than muh escapism) which is never addressed. FFX had better world building and stronger thematic consistency. E33 can't even address the moral quandary of whether the people of the painting are real and the characters barely react with any existentialism once they learn they're just products of someones imagination where as the characters of FFX are always debating about Yuna's imminent death and if it's right to sacrifice herself knowing Sin will return and questioning Yevon as a whole. Soundtrack is also better, just because it has more range than E33 as per Uematsu.
>>724306301just sounds like you're trying hard to hate on E33 while putting X up on a pedestal
>>724296871I loved it for the exploration. It kind of took me back to earlier final fantasies where you'd find an area and have no idea what you stumbled into, endless tower, the bald mime, the mansion in the sky, renoirs drafts, the hidden arena etc. I feel like a lot of recent open world games forget that exploration meant having something to fucking find instead of checking off bandit camp 72/103
>>724306176agreed. tidus and yuna are cringe.>>724306301>old good new badX's story wasn't that good. Nojima sucks.
>>724306530>>724306559>No argumentConcession accepted. I'm sure the response will be some low effort rage bait so do me a favour and don't bother, I won't read it.
>>724306301>without consequenseswhy do you think they got fucking firebombed by the writers? did you even play the game?
>>724306640no argument needed you faggotthese are all just personal opinionsyou clearly missed a lot of E33's story>>724306746exactly - clear explains everything
>>724305313People are still talking about the twist and the endings, so it was clearly successfully done. The problems with GOT weren't the twists or the killings, it was just so shitty and incoherent that no one wanted to talk about it anymore.
>>724306907clea* even
>>724306997>replying to schizo babble
>>724295353BUTBUT BUTI thought Turn-Based Games were DEAD?
>>724295353Now if only they had to time to course correct Part 3 of 7 Remake but it's too late.I bet the only thing they'll copy from E33 is the usage of generative AI for asset creation.
I like E33, and it's my GOTY, but Rebirth has better combat.
>>724295353Would /v/ be mad if FF17 returned to turn-based combat?
>Director of a game actually plays video gamesTerrible news!
>>724306746There isn't enough information to determine why the writers did anything. Anything you say is just conjecture and still doesn't address anything stated. We know there is some arbitrary war conflict that resulted in Verso dying and Alicia being burned and thats it. We know nothing about either sides motives. As a self contained game it's worse, since FFX was written with a beginning and end that work. DLC isn't an excuse.The twist undermines the game rather than heightening anything and raises questions that are never answered. The conflict about the 'painting' is also contrived as hell, since apparently you can create pocket dimensions and there are no moral or ethical constraints to doing so and the game hand waves it the same by not addressing it alongside the real existental themes that countless media habe raised before, 'if it's human and acts human then it's basically human' and none of it is addressed as part of the main game. Lore and story are different.The game tries to make me care about the family who have enacted genocide for generations, and pigeon whole you into the Verso ending simply because the Maelle ending is bad because after she dies the painting will be destroyed. Both endings are bad and result in me not caring about the story since I'd rather the painted family die and everyone else be left alone in the Painting. Verse tries to act like his endless suffering is bad despite the fact that generations of men women and children have died for years on end and I'm supposed to give a shit about his endless life which allows these people to survive? Cry me a river. Needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and the family drama is small potatoes compared to the countless suffering of the people in the painting.
>>724307317Nu-FF fans would, and who cares about them
>>724307472tl;dr you didn't do any side content with painted clea where she explains why the writers hate them
>>724306301>>724307472gotta love brainlets like this who need everything explained to them and can't handle any sort of ambiguityyou think the game is forcing you to care about the family when that's not the case at all
>>724307712Doesn't explain anything other than Clea fighting a war against the painters and giving context to Clea's power. Also, the difference between lore and story and as a self contained story is worse and still doesn't address my arguments but you're such a drooling retard I doubt you even read my argument.
>>724302880Lune isn't flat, she has normal sized tits for her build. The vast majority of fit athletic women do not have gigantic tits. She is still very pretty though and pleasing to look at without resorting to over the top gratuitous sexuality at the expense of realism because it's supposed to be a grounded and relatable game.
I liked E33 but Maella becoming comically evil after returning with white hair is hsilrious.
>a human have shit tastebreaking news OP>>724307317would you be mad if your favorite franchise turned into a different genre?>you love gran turismo>gran turismo 2 is a puzzle game because..fuck you
>>724296585i liked remake but rebirth i got bored halfway through
>>724307975you're just mad because you didn't understand the stroy
>>724308042>Maella becoming comically evilCan you give a few examples
>>724307923>ExplainedMy argument was that as a self contained story its worse and it is. Ambiguity is fine but not when it's at odds with the characters the game is trying to get me to care about especially when the central conflict is never fully explained and used as a 'get out of addressing difficult questions' card. You should develop reading comprehension before posting.
>>724296848>I had no expectationsTHis is hoenstly the biggest factor, people had no expectations thats why it was soo good, including me. Meanwhile look at something like BG3, so much hype before reales and it still exceeded expectations>>724301952agreed
>>724308089>BaitConcession accepted.
>>724308098just look at her expressions when she meets her painted self and from ages her without consulting verso
>>724308157>Meanwhile look at something like BG3, so much hype before reales and it still exceeded expectations>exceeded expectationsonly for shills and you furry faggots who like to fuck animals
>>724307317No, but they won't do it anyway. But they should make an effort to bring back a focus of multiple playable characters and actual party management. That part 7R got right at least.
What would be your ideal FF17? Explain in detail.
>>724308163it's not baityou're typing walls of text crying about how the game didn't cater to you and explain everything because you lack critic thought
>>724308367>Bait>No argumentConcession accepted anon. You don't need to keep responding.
>>724308260>forces him to play the piano for all eternity
>>724300836I feel the same way
>Concession acceptedwhy do all shitppsters say this?
>>724308335no i wont give you my ideas shill
>>724308454>Make an argument>Don't address it>Call the other person a shitposterPot kettle black. Develop an IQ above room temperature.
>>724308335turn based not because I dislike the action combat but just to see 4chan's biggest ever melty on record from the guy who spent a decade spiteposting against turn based games in the hopes that he can personally convince SE that the world hates turn based games no matter how much evidence to the contrary piles up
>>724308412nta but it's kinda true that you sound like you need everything spelled out for you>>724308454parrots who can't think for themselves - fits this poster perfectly
>>724308507ahh here we go with the ad hominem bringing up IQ because you're so fucking insecure over being filtered by the story
>>724308507just like "no" is a full word"its shit" its also a full argument
>>724308659>NTASamefag baiting for (You's). Please do try harder and enjoy your last one. >>724308718>Insecure >Acting defensively because he can't address valid criticism Lmao. Reddit is that way.
Only a fucking idiot would think E33 has any twists.
>>724308836neck yourself phoneposter
>>724295353Well if rebirth hadn't fucked up by caving to the retards whining that it's not a 1 to 1 remake they wouldn't be in this mess to begin withShould have just stuck with the unknown journey
>>724296760Yes, get out and play it now.
>>724296585I look like this and say this.
The real sad news is that Expedition 33 style game is something Square Enix could have done but they were too busy trying to make DMC Featuring some fags.
>>724296585based. haven't played 33 but I know for a fact I won't like it as much, even though I'm a sucker for turn-based action commands. Aesthetically and conceptually I'm not a fan.
>>724308948>Well if rebirth hadn't fucked up by caving to the retardsIf only this was true and not headcanon.
>>724309112Expedition 33 did good, but not "holy shit" good saleswise. FF15 sold far and away better, and it was shit.Don't know why people think Square would be chasing E33 numbers, when they've previously said their own games having E33 numbers "did not meet expectations" because their expectations are dumb.
>>724295353ok.
>>724308891Concession accepted.
E33 has less cutscenes so it's automatically better.
>>724309386The ROI on Expedition 33 is much higher than FF16.
>>724296760Yeah, it's like an 8/10. If it had FF in the title it'd probably be the sixth best FF game?
>>724295508KEK
>>724310158The ROI on FF15 is much higher than E33.
>>724309386>don't know why people think se would be chasing good sales figuresYeah me neither
>>724310598finish reading the phrase dumb monkey
>>724296760Yes it's good, I thought it wasn't much when I saw the trailers and the first hour of gameplay, but it clicked with me the moment the prologue ended. I can't wait to leave enough time so I forget enough of the game, so I can play it again and it can feel like new again.
>>724310598are you illiterate?
>>724310706yeah I don't know why se had such high expectations for their sales. they're as delusional as their own fanbase sometimes.
No matter how good the sales or reception for E33 is I will find a way to make it look like FF is still the winner
>>724310598replying a third time because I'm still annoyed at you
>>724310598Maybe read the entire fucking post you moron?
Dunno why a FF fan would be mad at E33 when it's the best chance we have of SE making turn-based FF again.The main problem is that SE fucking blow nowadays so whatever they do is going to be corposlop made by suits.
>>724310598fuck you fuck you fuck you aaaaahhhh
It's okay for SE games to sell poorly because they were never aiming for big numbers. Why can't you all understand that?
>>724311243If E33 was pure turn-based, it would've flopped. That's why they have action-based actions/parries/etc.
>>724311332They ARE aiming for big numbers. That's why they wouldn't want to aim for Exp 33. Too low for retarded SE, despite it being good enough with reasonable budget constraints.
>>724296585Now we need get SE added beefy muscles Tifa
>>724311371We're certainly in a time when that sort of thing is popular. It's not like it's unique to E33 tho. Even FF8 had timing on Squall's attacks, a bunch of them had inputs for certain Limit Breaks etc. SE are free to innovate, as they used to do.
>>724296760It's got okay gameplay but the art direction and story is abysmal. It's impossible to feel invested after the main twist.
>>724296760nah, e33 is a faggot game made by faggots (using unreal engine sloppa) for tasteless faggots who enjoy netflix tier writing.
>>724311676i'm all those things though
>>724311718well then, enjoy. faggot.
>>724311846thanks!
>>724311846>>724311897/v/ is so wholesome
>>724311897check out bg3 afterwards. a faggot like you is sure to enjoy that globohomo propaganda disguised as a video game.
>>724311243>Dunno why a FF fan would be mad at E33nobody is
>>724301952this
>>724311429Pretty much the trap they're in. For a while they were system sellers, top 10 best selling games each generation. They still budget their games to be that but no longer reach the audience for it.You'd think Automata taught them a lesson, it being one of their most profitable, but it's probably also lightning in a bottle.
>>724296585Same but Exp33 is still a good game
>>724311676>using unreal engine sloppadont look too close at those 7R credits bro
>>724295353why do japs have such shit taste in games nowadays?
>>724312071thank you so much for this
>>724296760it's a dogshit mass viral marketing campaign aimed at retards who don't like rpgs or games in general, the game is shit
>>724311980will doI love when /v/ is helpful and gives game recommendations
>>724311571This is what's always bothered me about chess. How am I supposed to enjoy the game if I have to think and wait all the time?
>>724295353Lol even these retards know turn based is better
>>724297883>korean coomerge devtard
5 months later :)
>>724312356e33 isn't really turn-based though, that's why it did well
>>724312390but metaflop flopped
>>724301318persona isn't an rpg, and dq is [sad news] an institution, and not a plucky rpg trying to make it out there on their own
>>724312071>>724312390oh that's funny
>>724301339because just like the (((oscars))) it's all just gay andnjewish marketing bullshit that retarded normgroid hylic npc retards fall for
>>724312390>>724312071Im just right here to bring notice of this, my friendPretty hilarious if you ask me, im glad im here to support you, agree with you and also adding something extra
>>724310706>>724311216What he's doing is this>Quote mining involves selectively extracting a small portion of a text or statement to misrepresent the original meaning, often to support a particular narrative or argument.>Contextomy is a more formal term for the same practice, emphasizing the removal of context to distort the intended message.You see it all the time and it's from people who have low education and zero want to engage in a good faith discussion.
>>724305997>implying nu-ff devs don't hate all rpgs
>>724312729>getting mad at the sight of his own postsSome things never change
KEEEEEK
>>724312762>You see it all the time and it's from people who have low educationah yes, an ad hominem
>>724312762You remind me of those "autistic reporter covers train crash" sketches the onion used to do.
>>724312094dont worry fag, I shitted on stillbirth for the same reasons.
>>724295353being game of the year isnt a particularly high bar in any year past 2010 since modern video games are dogshitrestarting fights because of gay parries in e33 is not fun though, and i was also let down by the initial setup to find out it was just same gay daddy issues gamei thought the game couldve been so many things when you hit the shore and that freaky old guy rekt everyoneand then the more you learn the worse it gets
>>724312879A form of it. >>724312982>Nooo you can't just go and understand the motivations of why people misrepresent posts that makes me look bad reeee!
>>724313754>posts that makes me look badWhich post made me look bad?
>>724313859All of your posts make you look bad.
>>724309386E33 had probably a third of the budget of a SE game. It had a fraction of the advertisement. It did “holy shit” good.
>>724314051But 99% of my posts are saying the same things you do, sometimes verbatim.So hey, maybe you're right.
>>724312879He didn't insult you to avoid addressing your point though, which is what an hominem fallacy is. He addressed your point and then insulted you for good measure, which is fair game.
So many fascinating explanations
>>724314141It did not make the profit of what they're aiming for, so no, not close to "holy shit" goodIt did do good enough (but Square is too retarded to find that acceptable)
>>724295353>retard applauds retarded gameChecks out
rebirth was my goty last year and e33 is my goty this year.It does not have to be a competition
>>724314173They do? Like what, point to my posts and your posts saying the same thing.
>>724296760It's one of the best things ever created by mankind.
>>724314182i wasn't the one with the post he replied to.i was just trying to do exactly what he said because I thought it'd be funny, but sadly no one else found it funny. figure it'd just slink away.>Quote mining involves selectively extracting a small portion of a text or statement to misrepresent the original meaning, often to support a particular narrative or argument...i thought it was funny at least
>>724314248What who is aiming for? The E33 devs? It exceeded every expectation. Of SE? Their huge size means they need more profit just to fund operating costs. Nothing except FF14 has put up acceptable numbers and even that is on the way out.
>>724314285You said all my posts make me look bad, so you're already well aware which are mine and of course you know which are your own.
>>724305938lol no
>>724314407SE. They would not be happy with E33 numbers, and they have not been in the past with E33's level of numbers.If you want to say SE is stupid, I'd agree with you. But I'm saying right now, SE as it stands would not be happy with E33's numbers.
I used to think goty was really important. When rebirth didnt win I realised goty doesn't matter at all, in fact its a mark of shame. If part 3 wins goty I will change my opinion again and you'll never hear the end of it from me
>>724314480Because all your posts do make you look bad, case in point your post right now. I know my posts, you know your posts, I know your posts so if you know my posts verbatim as you say you'll be able to point to them. Go ahead, point them out, I'm sure you weren't just talking nonsense.
daily reminder anti-e33 fags lost and continue to lose with each passing day
>>724296760>It's one of the best things ever created by mankind.
>>724314721I wouldn't say I thought it was important but unironically Nine Sols not getting a nomination for indie goty last year showed me the entire awards are owned by chinks (yes, even though wukong didn't win)
>>724314657They would almost certainly be happy with E33’s ROI. The problem with numerical expectations is that they ultimately just boil down to ROI. E33 had crazy ROI and any game maker would have adored all the free money. Pokemon games, for example, apparently have asinine ROI.
>>724314920Nine Sols was too niche and too unknown. While it was definitely the best indie, I doubt many people would even recognize it.
Could Square Enix realistically buy them ? Having a team of western weeb devs that still understand western sensibilities could be useful.
>>724314951nu-square would never be able to get fagspedition 33's roi out of it, because their investment in it would be 100x more money because square is a bloated fucktarded company that lost the fucking plot a longnass fucking time ago, and not a handful of gay french retards shitting out parryslop unstraight troongineslop, retarded NIGGER
>>724315060nah fuck that, it has over 3x and 5x as many steam reviews as other nominees. it was excluded because it's Taiwanesealso it was the actual goty last year not just the indie one
>>724314951no they would not. FF15 made far more overall despite it being shit.
>>724315062they could but I don't want them to. tell them to ditch the ethic department and denounce faggotry then we can talk about a potential acquisition
>>724315171Have you ever thought about killing yourself? Your speech has degenerated too far to be saved.
>>724315171you lost, tranny. E33 and it's enjoyers won.
>>724315273Far more (profit) or far more (ratio of profit to costs)?
>>724295353i mean why not its just a worse copy of ff10
>>724295353He's right
>>724315371it made far more money than they put into it. the ratio is not as important if it's still ultimately more profit in Square's eyes. again, look at their past behavior. you're confused what's actually being said.
>>724315062Financially? Easily, but I doubt the guys at Sandfall are interested in that. They got their own thing going and it's off to a good start.
>>724300963lol yea its the most low IQ shit, kind of like how there is a mod who hates yoshi and the site owner is best friends with him
>>724315556Even basic 101 business majors know ROI, and those fuckers can barely multiply single digits. I would doubt Japan is so far behind in standard business math.
>>724315639only braindead retards do that anyway. actual jrpg enjoyers love both
>>724315754again, look at Square Enix's past behavior.E33 numbers are not good enough for them. you're speaking towards a more competent company that they are not.
>>724295353mediocre game with giant viral marketing budget
>>724315634They might have enough to fund their next game but they're better off working with a publisher.
>>724312071Know it’s always strange when people put games against each other not knowing people can play both
>>724316156They have a publisher.
>>724316156They had Kepler as publisher for E33, who also helped them get big name actors on board. I assume they'll stick with that for the time being.
how did he buckbreak so many people?
>>724296760i never play turn based games or jrpgs and im enjoying it.I often lurk FF threads just to observe the insane angry autism on display and I can see that theres a lot of overlap with discussion about this game kek.
>>724316756people who like Final Fantasy like Expedition 33 typically, because it's largely an evolution of classic (1-9) Final Fantasy.
>>724296760Best single player experience I've had since MGS3 about 20 years ago, and I don't even like JRPGs
AAAAAAAAIEEEE SAVE ME OIL BARONS
>>724316756Tbh only really autistic thing in ff threads is that guy who attacks anyone who talks badly about ff15 and attacks any final fantasy game and some faggot obsessed with Yoshi p
>>724318623pretty sure that's the same person if it's who I'm thinking you're referring toapparently used to be a big hassle in DMC threads as well, but I'm not personally familiar with that aspect
>>724318782Nah barry is the xv dude and he has a really easily recognizable typing style also know there is a fake barry running around aswell
>>724318623Judging from this thread E33 fans are just as defensive and autistic. Not to defend FF, but JRPG fans are so thin skinned.
>>724318439Genuinely the most embarrassing image of Yoshida and Soken they've ever had taken of them and this is one year after FF16's release where that game was banned in Saudi Arabi because they refused to remove the homosexual romance and kissing from FF16.
>>724295353Based, FF7r x E33 alliance is real.Metaphor Retrannio need not apply.
>>724295353Turn-based died so action RPGs could be reborn. Action RPGs died to usher in the dark era of QTE "RPGs"
>>724305106oh shit you're totally right, all the VAs and artist with get their heads up their asses and think they should be worshiped
>>724305938Is this even a debate?The only demographic that disagrees is amongst the half-disabled (>>724306301 >>724314576). But we don't talk about them.
>>724319786you are beyond pathetic
>>724319651>dodge/parry mechanicsE33 is spiritually an ARPG.
>>724319852honestly i'm surprised you know how to type.
>>724319928proving my point
>>724319786I am being 100% genuine when I say I have seen quite a number of people compare E33 with FFX because they are similar and still put FFX's story ahead. You can cope and say it's nostalgia, or old good new bad, and you can choose to not believe my personal anecdote at all but it's what I have seen.
>>724319960Maelle mogs that metrosexual
E33 fags are like toddlers. It's fun to bully them but they get annoying pretty quickly. Better to shove them inside a locker and call it a day.
>>724319786>Still seethingI accept your concession.
>>724307317Elden Ring sold 30 million copies and the Remake trilogy is selling very well. There is not a chance in hell that they will return to turn-based combat for AAA Final Fantasy.
>>724295353>ching chong says bing bong is his favourite gameOk and?
>>724319868>dodge/parryThey called that but mechanically they're QTE. You're given a prompt to press the button and you press the button. There's no dodge prompt in dark souls because it's an action not a QTE game>inb4 but it's not a prompt it's a visual cuepotato tomato
>>724320026>I have seen quite a number of people compare E33 with FFX because they are similar and still put FFX's story aheadYea, I did mention 4chan has a thriving disabled community. Every time we have this discussion, we go over FFX's convoluted story and how it ultimately undermines the dream aspect of Tidus's story, leaving it weak and forgettable. Then we contrast it with E33, which maintains a tight, focused act structure that never drift, making its final premise land with far greater impact. After that, you cope, seethe and kneel. It's a tale as old as time.
>>724320620>FFX>forgettableKys. you aren't even an E33chad you are a false flagger. fuck off and rope.
>>724321448FFX's story is forgettable.The game is hard-carried by the gameplay and the music - which is what people actually remember.
>>724296760Its an 8/10 (normal people ratings not journos)Good game with a fuck ton of flaws holding it back.Honestly really feels like Temu Nier which isnt a terrible place to be
>>724295353He's completely right to say that.Which is weird because he's practically never right otherwise.
Admitting that pic related is true is nice, but it feel kinda weird when it's coming from Square Enix themselves.
>>724295353getting cuck energy from this ngl
>>724323104>squaresoft final fantasy if it was goodbut squaresoft final fantasy was good..
>>724295409They can enjoy their tiktok zoomer slop however they want but I hope this doesn't mean that their next game will have those awful grindy indie roguelike mechanics.
>>724296760Most fun I've had playing a game since first KCD. Can't say enough good things about the game.
Meanwhile Atlusgods at the top won't waste their time with peasants JRPGs devs.
>>724296760If you watch the trailer and don't immediately see it as slop... you are probably the target audience. Enjoy.
>>724323783https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/MzpkkrqDObvOc-55mVQOXw/
>>724323460its a cuck game big time. your intuition is right this time, anon.
>>724295353faggot game made by faggots for cuck faggots.
>>724295353Kek surrender
>>724316171Every single person who says "this game's bad because I like that other game" is shitposting. Some of them are paid jeets, but even more are just fucking schizos who cannot handle people liking what they don't. Opinions vary on E33 but it's at least a good game. Anyone saying "this game is shit" is trying to bait.
>>724296760Im >>724312071 and yes, it is a good gameI do have some problems with it, but nothing big that ruins he game1. the balance is horrible, easily breakable and that leads to RPG mechanics being outshined by parry/dodge mechanics.2. The emotional hook/connection (the prologue) barely matters in the end, in fact nothing matters except the family cycle of grief, and it is a hit or miss if you dont end up caring about it. Me, for example. I dont have a problem with Gustav dying, but nothing about Sophie or him ended up mattering later. 3. due to the plot twist, Lune and Sciel dont matter at all
>724323985We can tell you're on your knees.
>>724323985Whats the problem.Its an accurate portrayal of france
>>724324215>MY GAME CANNOT BE BAD>ANYONE SAYING E33 IS BAD IS LE SHITPOSTINGRetard
>>724296585Rebirth > E33 > RemakeHonestly a great time for gaming.
>>724295353Not playing your brownoid game, sorry.
>>724312390lmao what a retard
>>724321686>FFX's story is forgettable.you're a fucking retard. I haven't played FFX since I was 8/9 in 2002/2003 yet the story has stuck with me this entire time. so forgettable.
>seething about Metaphor out of nowhereWhy are FFcultists and E33jeets like this?
Do you play shitty games?
>>724323783Fuck Royal. I dont understand how a great game re-releasing a year latter gets another 7m sales, and new goat ranking.Re-releasing the same game with 5% more in that short of time frame, full price, is not good for vidya.
>>724296585>plebbit 33thanks for letting me know your opinions on anything belong in the trashcan since you type like a unfunny brown person
Lmao it's like admitting some frogs just beat you at the genre with your nation's letter in the name.
>>724324717you didn't play it if you think Royal is only 5% of the game. also Maruki is the best part of the entire game.
>>724324685This, so fucking this. The brother wars must stop.
>>724323783meanwhile actual jrpg enjoyers who aren't miserable autistic pieces of shit love Persona, E33, and the good FF games. series warring fags need to be flayed alive.
>>724324780Of course I didnt fucking play it. I played P5, loved it, and moved on. Was Maruki really $60 good?
>>724324295See >>724324437
E33 was 9/11 for FFfags. Even after E33 fans have moved on, FFfags will not. They'll be seething forever.There is literally no reason for anyone to be mad about E33. A small (white) team made a good game not based on an existing IP and it was a hit. It's the only truly feel good game industry story we've had in a decade. It's a miracle it happened in the middle of the worst hellscape the medium has ever gone through. The ONLY reason to be mad about it is if you're a FF retard who is threatened by its mere existence. They also have no reason to seethe at Metaphor. Nobody else even gives a shit about Metaphor. Only FFfags talk about Metaphor. But E33 committed the unforgiveable crime of being popular.
>>724324685whats fw
>>724324932>Of course I didnt fucking play it.stopped reading there, neck yourself retard
>>724324861If we just got rid of FF7R fans (all 2 of them) do you know how much better this board would be? The quality would shoot up.
>>724324949>Even after E33 fans have moved on, FFfags will not. They'll be seething forever.Exp33 have been doing nothing but bring FF to the discussionyou cant even praise the game without bringing FF
>>724324972apecronym for "fuck with", which is orangutangese for "enjoy"
>>724324972LOL, this is why women wont fuck you and you are so lonely you payed for the same dating sim twice...
>>724325048>have been doing nothing but bring>without bringing FFGOOD MORNING SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE E33 THAT GAME FOR BROWN MEN
>>724324949Based and truthpilled.That one guy, you know he samefags like it's going out of style, is going to die on the SE-hill and it's pathetic beyond words.
>>724325169I like both, you turbo fag. Kindly kill yourself.
>>724324949>Nobody else even gives a shit about Metaphor.Your whole paragraph intention was seethe about Metaphor again. Literally obsessed about the game.
This is him. This is that one guy ITT.
>>724325048I feel like 98% of FF fans know this. In fact I wonder if there is a single person who liked Rebirth that hates E33. I figure most of the haters are the original FF7 purist autists who will never be happy about anything.
>>724325326Somehow im not surprised you are this autistic to not realize that a falseflag shitpost.
>>724324295Correct, it was a good game.
>>724325382It's 1 dude who attacks every other JRPG that isn't Rebirth. Every purist has dumped the FF brand decades ago.
>>724324949Pure cope. FF fans never bring up E33, yet every single E33 fan brings up FF. Why? FF will always be a vastly bigger name than E33. No one will even know what E33 is in a couple months
>>724325427Everyone knows.
>>724324949You have stated the truth which is a very dangerous thing to do
>>724325570The Final Fantasy golden goose, 7, sold 2m with its last entry. XVI sold 3m.E33 sold more than both of those combined. Final Fantasy needs no longer exist.
>>724325048lmao sure pal sure don't you have an aerith thread with 5 replies to post in?you're such a sad fucking faggot sitting in these thread for hours a day just to do PR work for FF
>>724325326I love metaphor. I think children should be raped and all white men put in conversion camps. Im totally a real metaphor fan and not some troll trying to make metaphor fans look mentally ill. You gullible faggots will believe anything. Go metaphor, go tranny discord sisters. Thank you for your attention.
>>724324949this post has upset someone enough that they've immediately launched their boogeyman hunter material. guess the accuracy hurts.
>>724325326This hasn't been posted in a long time but it still pisses me off because it makes it easier to spot how I behave in these threads
>>724325680>E33 sold more than both of those combinedIt didn't. There has been no official data on E33 sales, which logically means it sold like shit.
Square Enix will certainly save the brand and aren't ruinously out of touch at all.
>>724325803so how much longer are you gonna reply to yourself?
>>724324949E33 was a breath of fresh air for FF fans.After enduring countless Atlus/Monolith tranime rehashes, we finally got a worthy competitor.I genuinely think Atlusfags are the biggest E33 shit-talkers. They're no longer the "Belle of the ball" when it comes to turn-based RPGs anymore. Persona 6 is gonna be scrutinized way harder this time.
>>724324949Oh I'm saving this one. Instant melty. If only he could have controlled himself... but he's always been great for announcing when a nerve has been touched.
>>724325919
>metaphorStop with this ironic shitposting, every fucking Atlus fan knows SMTVV is their best game right now.
>>724325794I mean you see this work all the time on pol.
>>724308082many such cases
>>724325930>>7243120713 and a half hours. Anything wrong with that?
>>724326028It's just the Final Faggotroon trying to deflect. Pay it no mind.
>>724324949dawg I liked the game but be serious, E33 is basically attached to the hip when it comes to discussing FF or even Silksong at this point. It’s basically used as a vehicle for gamers to vent their frustrations with the games they don’t like and is almost always brought up only when mentioning goty. Meanwhile there are multiple FF daily and again, if E33 is brought up if at all it’s to spite Square, never in good faith of comparing two great franchises.
>>724326008>Believing a jewish studio's numbersHoly kek E33 fans are cooked
>>724325920You are 100% right, but this is what actually being in touch is so watch your monkeypaw. >>724324685
>>724326052Kek inb4 game ends with Cloud sitting in a wheelchair explaining how they totally beat Sephiroth.
>>724326139>Meanwhile there are multiple FF dailyTifa thread #839429374921 doesn't actually translate into popularity. And the sales reflect that.Or do you think every Overwatch thread about Tracers ass or wanting to be Mercy proved Overwatch is beloved here?
>He actually thought the post was real
>>724326008>brown woman>covered in dirt>greasy UE textures>shit hair>proportions all fucked up with an elogated face because how else will we show off our facial capture technologyI'm sick of this slop.
>>724326370I dont know. Like real talk shit flinging aside. Its so fucking bizare to me how the Witcher and Skyrim get more threads than Silksong, Hades 2, and DS2. You see the odd SS but the others litterally fell off a cliff.I do think that means somthing.
I liked both Exp33 and 7R but I get really pissed off if I see people praising Exp33 too much or criticizing 7R. Metaphor sucks by the way I HAVE to say that.
>>724326370What's funny is that you can so easily tell that the "great debate" threads are 99% of the time bumped from page 8 by the same guy having conversations with himself.
>>724326596this seems as organic as >>724325326 and >>724325794
>>724326581I still see E33 discussed here every day, there was a huge thread about the ending only yesterday. I can't remember the last time I saw a Remake thread that wasn't about about how shit it was or blatant goonposting.
>>724326581Who the fuck played Death Stranding 2 other than snoys and hardcore Kojima fans?
>>724326495Like you wouldnt.And I say that as someone who litterally wouldnt touch the other companion.
>>724326714Yeah it reminds me of those other posts mocking specifically you
>>724326773Sadly true
>>724326596>Metaphor sucks by the way I HAVE to say that.We know you're obsessed with Metaphor success.
>>724326773Yes, thats why I didnt mention E33. I could see it being discussed a decade from now too. Goon or not.
>>724326773I think all 7r "dicussion" would dissapear forever within a week if they didnt have the ff7 girls to "discuss"
>>724324949True and saved
>>724326714didn't know that one was still stinging. I'm glad
>>724327037Oh 100%
>>724326773liar yellow fever fags and pedos only care about lune and maelleff7 rebirth is still bad though
>>724327179>pretending you haven't seen the yuffie and cait sith threadsyou're falseflagging, yes?
>>724312390OWCH
>>724327036>Witcher>Skyrim>BG3>Stardew ValleyI mean yea?
>>724296760/v/ has terrible opinions of videogames and if something is slightly popular they will call it shit regardless if the game is actually gooduse your own criteria
>>724327267>I mean yeaYep. It's a shame bringing up other games doesn't invalidate the point. Yea.
>>724312390Saved
>>724327521I feel like you are a retard whos more upset at being too stupid to get into college than he is at Square Enix. Sublimating your self hate into FF7 posts wont help you Anon, kek.
imagine being the director of ff7r and being responsible for a reviled, utter dogshit of a remake that besmirches the legacy of the original game, working for a company that has done nothing of note since the PS2 era
>>724327718>FF7 hateHuh? A lot of assumptions being made here anon, but you've told me what it is you're dedicating your time to defending from enemies. I'm not one of them.
>>724326596Still angry about this one
>>724327718Wait, so you really thought bringing up those other games would invalidate the criticism after accepting it? Oh brother
>>724327521He didn't like this
>>724327036YeaUndeniable
>>724325128I hope you realized the sheer irony of your pic. the fact that you made it in the first place and the fact that you post it 24/7 goes completely against it's concept
>>724325128>metaphor literally isn't mentioned by anyone, even atlusfags, but 7R schizos still mention it constantlygood pic
>>724295353His knees must be red at this point.
>>724312390I'm going to make a thread one day specifically to piss this dude off.
>>724295353Why did they call it 33? Professor jang was talking about the number 33 was this game have connection to free mansions?
>>724308001all the females are conventionally attractive.>lune: slim tight asian female with bare feet>lune: bottom heavy sex goddess>maelle: perfect tight teenage sisterwifethey get some attractive outfits along the way too.it's a good game, well deserving of goty. hopefully sandfall will spearhead a new positive direction in western vidya after decade+ of decadence.
>>724328395Based
>>724324949They can't even deny it
>>724328487It is actually explained very well in the game.
>>724295353E33 is alright but massively overrated. Shitty art and shitty characters, whitoids can't write stories or characters worth a damn. I do respect the game for being turn based when even modern FF isn't doing that though. Any, and I mean ANY JRPG from the land of nippon destroys it
>>724328495sciel* i meant for my 2nd point.
>>724328641>whitoids can't write stories or characters worth a damnGee I wonder if you have autism
>>724295483outside this one board the entire game is completely memoryholed
>>724328495>sisterwifekys incestuous pedo
>>724328845Not true, I follow 100 FF influencers on socials and they all still talk about it sometimes
>>724328641no one's reading all that, tranny. post playtime.
>>724328605But did the writers choose that name and put that as in game lore. Havent played amy new games fo a while now. It too expensive I just wait 4 or 5 years and wait for steam sales then buy it. It works well as all the dlc and expansions come out and can buy it all in a discounted rate
>>724329114Not that guy but that's no even that long to read. Man social media is destroying our kids and making them lose there attention span
>>724296824but enough about rebirth
>>724329062Maybe if Square Enix is very lucky the next game might sell 100 copies.
I bought both games, finished both games , enjoyed them both literally nothing stopping your from doing the same, pitting the game against each other is a retarded take
>>724307317I would be more surprised if the next FF retained/improved upon anything significant from 16 or the 7R games because it would mean SE actually learned something for once
>>724329131The main team was 33, no other reason.
>>724329253If they did I would still claim they won and everyone else lost
>>724329114lmao, how brain dead and retarded are you if you couldn't read that short post?
>>724329321Thank you so much. But in future please make clear you like both but rebirth is a little better. You forgot that part.
>>724307317I wouldn't I just want them to fucking commit 100% to whichever system they decide to go with, turn based, action or hybrid. nothing sucks more than half assed normie coded systems in 15 and 16. and even in remakes they didn't push this hard enough, with good systems there should be a level of mastery present when you invest time and effort in learning it. final fantasy didn't have this since 12.
>>724328760You can seethe and project your autism all you want but it's trueThe characters in E33 are shit boring and forgettable.
>>724328845It's memoryholed here too, just a few troons constantly bumping their dead threads.
>>724329507
>>724329417Of course. When you're that delusional there can be no failure.
>>724329642Thank you for not daring to say otherwise
>>7243292144chan is a social media.
>>724295353gotta love that surrenderism
>>724328929>>>/r/eddit
>>724312390So this is our local "both games are good ;)" spokesperson
>>724312356This. Only took them two decades.
>>724303457Lightning returns has a better combat system than Expedition 33. Expedition 33 excels in narrative and adventure: simon-says gameplay isn't exactly deep.I'd rather replay Lightning returns because combat was so good.
>>724330205>Both games are good>But the one you want to talk about is not as good>Doesn't that make you want to play this other option instead?>I'm being genuine :)lmao every time
>>724312390Weird to not see you posting the actual first post, my post.But hey whatever fits your narrative i guess.Yes, metaphor was mediocre. Exp33 and rebirth were pretty good. As simple as.
>I'd rather replay Lightning returns
>>724295353Guess you shouldn't have spent the last 20 years alienating all your former fans, huh?
>>724316171>>724324215The problem is that E33 sold more than Rebirth and it doesnt deserve to sell more than Rebirth, I was actually going to buy E33 but since it sold more than Rebirth and people praise it more than Rebirth I'm never touching that piece of shit
I like final fantussy 7 rebirth.
>>724330383Your first post doesn't change how WRONG you were about e33 being forgotten>Parry and dodges require AP to do. Fixed.>Now you're limited between being able to use abilities or dodge/parry, meaning you have to build defensively to be able to use abilities and have to build nothing but base attack buffs to use dodge/parryYour suggestion is to make character building even more limited? Lmao fucking brainlet
>>724295508
>>724330492Years of dealing with tendies that are actually this far gone has rendered me unable to tell whether or not your post is satire. Man I can't wait for war to wash all this shit away.
>>724330580https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/709248783/Look at the thread where i posted thatan aggressive shitpost threadso yeah, you deserve those posts>Your suggestion is to make character building even more limited? Lmao fucking brainletMy suggestion is for the game to be less dodge/parry focused and let the actual RPG mechanics shinesomething, ironically, FF7 rebirth did much better. Its not a parry simulator.
>>724330492LolI know it's bait But I played rebirth on release for 150 hrs and despite the ending being horrid I loved it I will never play it again though, ever. E33 I expected to be a 7 and it ended up being the best game since bloodborne. I think about it daily even if just for a brief second. I still think of FFX 20 years later and I bet I will with e33 as well. Rebirth is nothing. It's a good game but it's soulless and a corpo product full of fluff and not true to what fans want. E33 is masterful and exactly what I've wanted since ff went off the rails with 11 and 22
>>724330685>yeah I'm a dogshit poster but I only one of severalNo thanks!>dodge/parry focusedYou can already beat the game and all side content without a single dodge, parry, jump, or gradient counter :)>I'm a huge shitposter and I;m saying rebirth is betterThanks for confirming that everyone who says this is engaging in aggressive shitposting.
>>724295353Hahahaha SE is such a fucking mong company holy shit!
>>724330446Yeah, I love fun action games :)Most of the combat in FF games isn't fun, but I enjoyed the plot and narratives. I Don't really want to "replay" them when I could just experience them without the slog/boring gameplay on youtube.
>>724330363I will be absolutely shocked the first time I see "I played and liked both but I liked e33 a little more"Maybe then it would sound less like one guy saying the same thing 100s of times.>both are good, rebirth is better, metaphor sucks!
>>724330826>You can already beat the game and all side content without a single dodge, parry, jump, or gradient counter :)You sound like those who defend "elden ring but without using any mechanic but normal attack" videos and think the game is super easy or something
The game is fine but it's not amazing. There's either been too much shilling put into it or the current state of RPGs is just so sad that people get overly excited for crumbs.The story is pretty disjointed, with limited narrative and character interactions. The game pulls you in with the prologue and its dramatic cinematics but once you're on the beach and free to play the game, the narrative just tanks and it continues like that till the very end. The side content is just more reskinned enemies to fight. The two hubs with NPCs don't really have anything going on for them aside from one or two short quests.The combat goes from mediocre to obnoxious. You're either slammed with spastic parry ballets where you get oneshot if you fail to parry one hit from a 10 hit chain that's not even synchronized, or you just instantly delete the enemies.Sure it's better than the low tier final fantasy games but that's a very low bar.The game's strong points are the music, map design and atmosphere.
>>724330383>why yes I have spent 16 hours a day for the past two years defending rebirth from criticismVery kind of you to do that for a game you only consider "pretty good"
>>724330854The only reason he even bothers is to pretend e33 fans and 7r fans are besties so e33 doesn't bully 7r
>>724330972>why yes I have spent 16 hours a day for the past two years defending rebirth from criticismWell if you do that, then im sorry for you. Get a life. >Very kind of you to do that for a game you only consider "pretty good"Eh, i dont do that, you do. "spending 16 hours a day" sounds like a weird projection.
>>724330953Obnoxious was the word i was missing for E33 combat, you hit the nail on the head.
>>7243120715 hours so far
>>724308335hybrid system where action and turn based are both nuanced systems but swapping between them on the fly has its own strategic value, ie debuffs will expire in real time so you can dodge and parry your way out of being silenced instead of wasting 3 turns, but turn based has more unavoidable damage that you have to mitigate. also kill stagger, stop bringing back atb's corpse when you have the kh mp system, especially don't use individual cooldowns for shit when that exists, don't make single player character action games for babies, don't force me to constantly swap characters just to keep playing without interruptions. Bring back gambits, bring back debuff/buff based jobs/characters, bring back FFX style stat and spell grinding (the systems for weapons/aeons, the sphere grid can sit in the cuck chair), and don't lock 80% of the combat options behind 20+ hours of gameplay (8 hours of which are cutscenes)
>>724330953>the game is fine>here's why everything about it is bad or worse
>>724331285A game can be fine and have flaws, anon.
>>724331285If you haven't noticed yet this is the entire plan.>e33? oh yeah it's cool, I like and rebirth but I think rebirth is a little better because [10,000 word essay on why e33 is SHIT]
>>724331378I don't give a shit about rebirth and I don't even like FFVII.
>>724320267>There is not a chance in hell that they will return to turn-based combat for AAA Final Fantasy.which is why I won't buy modern FF and the series continues to be a disappointment even for SE.
>>724295353Remakes aren't eligible for GOTY retard
>>724331378Hey don't ruin my thing
>>724331371Yeah E33 has a ton of flaws. That doesn't change the very obvious formula of "I'm about to signal that this is a reasonable post by saying the game is fine and then go into great detail about how fucking terrible it is. But I said it's fine, so I can't be criticized."
>>724331458They literally gave mongoloids like yourself an option for purely turn based combat in the game.SE also has turn based focused games that they still make, see: Octopath traveler
>>724331606You sound unhinged as fuck.
>>724331614>turn based mode is literally easier than the faux action "hold one button" to win combatkill yourself, retard.
>>724331614>zoomer who loves braindead actionslop>calls people who prefer proper combat mongoloids
>>724330737the ending is not horrid you are put in clouds shoescloud loves aerith so much he'd rather schizo a timeline where aerith is alivethe fiirst 11 chapters of rebirth is unadultarated filler i struggle understand why most fans enjoyed like it most but hate the latter chapters where story actually moves.makes sense that ff7 fans only care about the characters as if it's a slice of life anime
>>724331673>faux-impartial tone doesn't work>switch to shamingmkay
414 reply thread with nothing but arguing. This is every damn E33 thread
>>724320267>shipped
>>>724331782the only FF game with anything remotely close to "hold one button" to win combat would be FF15, and I dropped that game 3 hours in: animations felt too disjointed and jumping felt so terrible.>>724331782So you agree that rebirth has "proper combat" under your own standards, thanks for letting us know you refuse to play what you describe as "proper combat".
>>724332014I like that part assuming it is schizo cloud and not some other trash le twissst, but the death itself was completely ruined
>>724332064>the fucking OP mentions both final fantasy and E33>expecting anything but shitpostsAt least most E33 threads are just maellefags and versofags arguing disingenuously about each others' endings.
>>724331782>I'm a a monster/demon/robot who is hostile to other beings>let me wait for the character to hit me firstturn based combat is for slow brained retards
>>724332219>mash the same two buttons repeatedly>wow this is so fun an engaging>I can ROLL!!!
>>724332219>brownoid cannot understand abstraction and needs games to adhere to his perception of realism at all times
>>724332219>he plays videogames for realismWhy doesn't Mario hurt his head when he hits blocks? Stupid retard shit
>>724332194you can't even reply to a post without fucking up.
>>724332383ff7 rebirth isn't button mashing fagyou can dodge in e33, did you forget?
>>724332064Every 7r thread dies after 10 posts or is a debate about the age of consent. Don't get uppity, nigger.
>>724329214>>724329471it's not about attention span you retards. what sane individual would read beyond the words "shitty art" when those words already made it clear he's talking about a game he's never played?anti e33 subhumans lost. there is no further discourse to be had.
>>7243325497r threads don't survive in their own, it's why they shit up threads about other games
>>724330656>>724330737I'm not baiting, E33 is overrated and it being succesful is the only reason I will never play it, Rebirth is the better game and shouldve been goty and shouldve sold 5 million in 1 week
>>724295409What's next? Megabonk dev shilling for slop? Take the W, faggot devs.
>>724333482>game I haven't played is overrateddo you fucking hear yourself? how do you melanated retards type this shit with a straight faceyou lost
>>724333482>>724333665All 7R fanboys are fucking braindead
>>724296760It's literally my Game of the Decade never mind game of the year.
>>724334262this anon is a heterosexual White male
>>724334262Anon that's NOT what this thread is for!!
>>724295353that's some hardcore kneeling right there
>>724334262None whiter.
Now all we need is the full head-to-the-floor apology from Nomura and SE can start healing.
>>724333665Cause Ive seen reviews it doesnt do anything new, Infinite Wealth has the better turn based combat, plebbit 33 is babys first turn based game, most of the plebbit 33 fanbase has never played a SMT game before they're filthy causals therefore that game is dogshit
>It's literally my Game of the Decade never mind game of the year.
>>724335702turdies can't run ue5slop on their pagpags
>>724335702this guy looks like one of my engineering teachers, great guy
>>724295409Based and white
>>724335592>Cause Ive seenagain: no one's reading your melaninbabble. you lost.
>>724335702post ps5 or pc specs with a timestamp. you aren't fooling anyone, tendie. post bathroom scale while you're at at as well
>>724295353Pathetic beyond all words.
>>724328845Trvke
>>724295353Did he really fucking say that? I bet he lets whites on his wife.
>>724331614Too little too late :)Enjoy every Final Fantasy flopping until this lesson is learned.
>>724308335Lighthearted story with either a medieval or sci fi settings with either turn based or action combat (like 7 Remake though none of 16 again) with big breasted waifus in low rise + crop top clothint
>>724335702The more time passes the more it becomes obvious that the people who go around accusing everyone of being Indians or some other flavour of third worlder are just projecting.
How is this sad news? He's right.>>724337914>action combatAnother flop then.
>>724295918I can't imagine being this stupid. Endorsing the game that's currently raping you in the ass at 1% of the budget?
>>724296760I really don't like it and i feel like i'm taking crazy pills because everyone loves it. The gameplay is annoying and overly reliant on the parry mechanic, i personally hate the art style which granted is a subjective thing but i really do feel like it has very poor visual clarity which in turn makes me not want to explore because all areas look like a vague, blurry mess of debris, the characters are mediocre and the story is the most baffling part for me because for 80% of it it's mystery box bullshit where you're being led on by the big mystery, except you can figure it out very easily so it's not particularly impactful, the "twist" itself is mediocre and it just ends up being babby's first moral dillema. It's a boring game with mediocre combat, mediocre exploration, mediocre characters and a mediocre story. If anything i feel like i was tricked by it having a good premise, but that only holds up for the first couple of hours. I genuinely cannot find anything particularly special about E33
>>724335702This
>>724338530>except you can figure it out very easily so it's not particularly impactful, the "twist" itself is mediocre and it just ends up being babby's first moral dillemaHow to spot someone that never played the game and just lived in /v/ threads soaking up spoilers to form an opinion over.
>>724338734how is he wrong tho
>>724338858I mean for one the ending choice isn't even a moral dilemma so never mind babies first it isn't even one in the first place. Dumb retard was wrong from the first step.
>>724338734I did play it though, even if i can't prove it to you. If your only defense is claiming that i didn't then we're at an impasse. But i promise that i did, from beginning to end and my biggest feeling about the story was just annoyance
>>724339015Nah this isn't just a "trust me bro" situation if you actually did see the twist coming a mile a way you should be capable of explaining your reasoning. You can't just pull that shit out of your ass there needed to have been something that let you supposedly figure out the entire plot from the begging. Explain it if you can you can't.
>>724338293what is the crossover demographic of the two games where one is pervasively affecting the other?
>>724296585Agreed. There is so much I hate about the remakes, but there is 1 thing I love for 2 things I hate. I am excited for snowboarding in part 3. Flogslop 33 is just a worse Final Fantasy X.
>>724295409terrible taste. Explains his game.
>>724324741You are a troon, I can tell.
>>724296760No. Parryslop33 is essentially just the plot of FFX and Dark Souls 3 mashed together. Hell that is what the gameplay is too.
>>724339731it's nothing like FFX. i will never understand why people who haven't played E33 keep comparing them. there is a song that sounds like it's from FFX for about 5 seconds, but that's it.
I can't wait for E33 to sweep the awards, and win GOTY. Gonna love seeing squeernix and fatlus fanboys seethe.
>>724340058>just the plot of FFX and Dark Souls 3 mashed togetherthis just confirmed the people hating the game ITT haven't even played it. typical nu-/v/.>>724340141don't forget the nintoddller seethe
>>724340058what a retarded post holy shit
Brand recognition and resourcesBecause Ubisoft is big, it can invest in big budgets, AAA quality, and big IPs. For many players, that translates into polished visuals, major voice acting, big marketing campaigns etc.If you’re looking for “safe bet” titles with strong global support, big studios like Ubisoft typically offer that.
>>724296760It has a great plot, great vocal tracks, looks good, the girls are hot and the battles are simple and tricky enough to be fun. For the rest, it's kinda basic. You walk around, fight enemies, collect loot. It would be decent to good in 2007. In 2025 it's such a net improvement over everything else you better drop on your knees and worship it
>>724304685yeah the overworld is crazy looking
>>724334326>>724340224>>724340285You will never be a woman
sciel sexo
>>724301318>>724301318Metaphor is DEI social commentary muh racism is bad garbage
>>724340115Says the autistic retard who doesn't grasp themes
glad this game is still making /v/ seethe
>>724340520E33's theme is coping with loss. That isn't X's theme at all.
>>724340520nta but explain how they're the same
>>724303187This, it's good, but good games are rare now. It's done by millennials skilled enough to do it and clueless enough to not make a pact with the devil to make it. Watch the publisher though. The POZ machine will go after it fast
>>724295353He knows GOTY when he sees it. That Persona rehash didn't deserve it, nor did Astroturf Bot (replacement for Concord's paid win). Rebirth deserved GOTY last year.
>>724340918I will never understand the Metaphor dick-riding. It's just a gutted Persona.
>>724340973me neither. it's such a boring fucking game.
another GOTY for /v/ to seethe over
>>724340520You realize X is about overcoming pragmatic traditions and generational deceit right? E33 has some similar, if not outright paralleled plot beats with it but the world existing as an unmaintainable simulacra for the "benefit" of one person is not the same as a simulacra choosing to sacrifice itself for the good of a salvageable world.
>>724304735>legend of dragoonbased
>he chose the maelle ending
>>724340448my dick twitches every time she says "rrrreeeaaaddddyyyy"
>>724295353hmm and?what was he supposed to say? that he doesn't like the game because he's from SE? in a way this make v schizos look even worse because these devs are friends at the end of the day
>>724340619nta but to an extent it is, dream zanarkand is a cope world created out of Yu Yevon's inability to deal with the loss of his city, in that way the games are pretty similar
https://youtu.be/YMrPQflzcDI?si=a4KmMScn1wPK1NpI
>>724341574>dream zanarkand is a cope world created out of Yu Yevon's inability to deal with the loss of his cityelaborate
>>724341574nta but that's not what happened at all
>>724341092>>724340619>They are similar...BUT NOT REALLY.Troon and reddit
>>724341889they're not. that's like saying every single game that has a death is like FFX.
>>724341889>persona imageof cours
>>724341720He's retarded. Any time someone mentions "dream" in relation to ffx you can discredit everything they say. unless they're talking about the actual dream flashback sequences
>>724342118>Any time someone mentions "dream" in relation to ffx you can discredit everything they saysame with E33 actually - I've said retards claim the narrative is "it was all just a dream"
>>724312489>Persona is a visual novel!Retard.>>724340495We can tell you never played it.
>>724296760genuinely one of the best games in a long time which explains why contrarians are out to hate it in droveshttps://youtu.be/TMl0TAolfPU?si=sPu1cEst4X053Kv2
>>724323902>its a cuck game big timeYep.FF7 was always a NTR game.
>>724304735>the music puts squeenix and fatlus to shamebut the music is just elden ring ambient music
>>724342470hmm that's not very Tolerant of you
>>724312390KEKAROO
>>724342820oh yeah this is so elden ring >>724341616
>>724324949It's this shrimple
>>724316479in an industry hellbent on nepotism, violent leftist rhetoric, brainwashing, and money laundering, when a small team shows up and obliterates all of that brutally and effectively, assets must be deployed to defend the corporate illusion that games need to cost 600 million dollars, require 500 leftist developers, and 1900 pajeets to be good.
>>724341616>>724343087What shitty eletronic music. SMTV and even fucking Tokyo Mirage have better dance music.
>>724343087sounds more like hotline Miami. I get not liking Square but the music is usually pretty damn good
>>724343437>>724343503>get BTFO>seethelmao
This thread is proof that all the hate from this game stems from pic related.
>>724324949White post.
>>724340448Moles
>>724343935Not seething, just the truth. Atlus song team is miles away from your orchestral shit. https://youtu.be/nkig83NeayM?si=3UH79vfvaGI20xZc
>>724340448No, the opposite
>>724341159does it hurt to have uneven teeth guise?
>>724343935>His only arguments are "kek", "cope" and "seethe"Least braindead E33 cultist.
>>724323783>faglus at the topthey literally got bought by sega kek. troonsona 6 and metaflop aren't getting a new game in the next 5 years.
>>724295353i bought neither so i dont careff7 remake was fun when i played it 5 years ago though
>bump limit People are still obsessed with FF?
