I can't be the only one who finds this game a hilarious trainwreck. The plot is a schizophrenic mess, the gameplay is a joke, and Levine seems to go out of his way to character assassinate his own beloved OC. This shit is incredible.
>>724301871I was so mad that booker didn't end up having sex with elizabeth (his daughter) in the end. It was so perfect but they fucked it up. Could have had the perfect daughter-wife.
>the goal of both protagonists is to escape Columbia>the first thing we ever see Elizabeth do is open a portal to a different cityI spent the entire game thinking "Why don't they just leave?". They spend like half the game on this convoluted chain of fetch quests to get access to an airship, when they could literally walk away.
>>724302495Because the bird would go after them
>>724303013>Because the bird would go after themWhich wouldn't change even if they hijacked an airship
>>724301871>The plot is a schizophrenic messStill can't get over the fact that you leave your original universe permanently just to find an arms dealer MacGuffin who is dead anyway.
>>724301871Story is kino, I enjoyed it apart from the dumb puzzles. BS2 > BSI > BS1
>>724303158>We have found the weapons, but can take them out of this building>Let's jump to another universe where we've already took them out
>>724303013That's another thing that's confusing. Can Songbird follow Elizabeth across realities? Cause at no point is that ever even implied. Be kinda cool if it could, cause that would make it even scarier cause nobody knows how the hell it's doing that. But no, they just didn't think of that. >>724303158My favorite is how the script acts like their deal with Daisy still applies despite the fact they made the deal with the one from their original universe, and have never actually met the other Daisy they interact with. Ken Levine doesn't understand the base premise of a multiverse.
>Type shit, MA'AM! With all due respect, ma’am, we must continue the conversation later: I need train the new recruits or the army will have my ass!
>>724303013The birb can't jump realities like she can>>724303158I continued to play the game, but mentally I just checked out at that point, when they left their original world. At that point, none of the stakes, or even anything really, matters anymore
>>724303360Not to defend Levine, but the game and plot are clearly victims of the continual rewrites. Even in early/promos you can see it, when people are hostile to and trying to kill Elizabeth, changed to the final iteration where she's revered and people are trying to steal her back from Booker
>>724301871>Black people literally lining up and begging to get into an explicitly racist society so they can be oppressed and exploitedPremise never should've made it beyond the whiteboard.
>>724303328I laughed hard when this happened. 800 IQ shit right there. >>724303656The patchwork script is part of the game's terrible charm. They are desperately gluing shit together to trying and make something coherent.
>>724301871they're a cute pair
>>724304257That's not Sergeant Doberman
>>724301871For me its when you found out that you were cornstarch the whole time.
>>724304341And the game never really acknowledges that this means Booker is like ultra racist. Which makes no sense because he was explicitly offended by the the lottery and was about to start shit over it. >>724303746I forget where, but I could swear it was explained that the non-whites were kidnapped from the surface.
>>724304341cornstarch was a bad dude and he ran a bunch of bad boys
>>724302495>I spent the entire game thinking "Why don't they just leave?"Writer was literally "I used word/concept because it sound complicated" Anyone thinking about Bioshock at all put more effort into it than the developers/writers did
>>724304257It would have been kino if we got some Oldboy like story. Booker and Elizabeth naturally get romantic over the game and then find out she’s his daughter. Basically everything about this game is wasted potential.
>>724304450Not sure about that. They do show new arrivals with luggage leaving airships to find work. Maybe Booker should've done that instead of a secret puzzle lighthouse shuttle with exposition and baptism.
>>724304591>both completely unaffected by the news
>>724301871It’s fairly simple actually but the developers are incompetent:It’s bad because there is no Elizabeth romance. That’s literally all they had to do to make it good. Also each level should have ended with sex.
>"Don't sexualize my daughter, you gross nerds!">puts her in a cleavage revealing corset dress as an important thematic story beatWhat in the FUCK did he mean by this???
>>724304715Speaking of the lighthouse, I love that Booker sees and reacts to the bloody corpse(which I'm pretty sure is never explained), proceeds to the tower anyway, and then does the puzzle and sits in the chair that drooling moron he is. The first thing we learn about the player character is that he's a fucking idiot. Amazing.
>>724302314>>724304591>>724304761>>724304865>>724304865>looks like his dead wifehow the fuck could he not immediately tell? the twist is just for the audience
Also the fact that Elizabeth haven’t been mostly left alone her entire life would suddenly be with a strapping man is completely unrealistic that she didn’t wanna get pounded into oblivion
>>724305097See the post above you. Booker is a dumbass.
>>724305097booker is as oblivious as homer simpson
>>724301871Fucking hated it, worst bioshock game. The gun play was worse than the others, the game was broken in a few sections, the story was retarded and boring. It was an awful game.
Let's be real, would the game have been better if there was no interdimensional shenanigans? Like it's just the twins messing with Booker by implanting hidden/repressed memories. He could have been a patient and still a veteran alcoholic detective who is tasked with investigating Columbia. Then it's revealed he was a soldier under Comstock who broke at Wounded Knee and Elizabeth is his kidnapped wife or something. Now I feel like I put more work into the plot in 2 mins than Ken did in however many years it took this train wreck to release
>Okay, so the baptism somehow missed a single Comstock.>In order to complete my revenge, I'll trick him into nearly incinerating a Little Sister so a Big Daddy kills him.>... Wait, that was a cartoonishly evil thing I just did there! >I know! I'll go back to that universe and save the Little Sister I almost got killed. >Oh wait, I died in that universe, so I don't have my powers anymore. For some reason. >Anyway, to complete my goal of redeeming myself, I have to set off a chain of events that I know will kill millions of people! ... Wait. What the fuck happened with Burial at Sea? By god.
>>724301871>i CaN't Be ThE oNlY oNe─Shut up, retard.
From b4k:>Bioshock Infinite was a victim of what I’m going to start calling the Shadow The Hedgehog effect, where a piece of media is such an affront to normalfags that they enact a self-fulfilling prophecy on it and try to kill it out of spite while blaming it for its own failure. In the case of video games, this can manifest as staff leaving the project or content being cut, resulting in instability, narrative discohesion, ammunition for detractors to fallaciously associate the game’s strengths with the resultant issues (SEE?! NO ONE LIKES IT WHEN YOU MAKE IT LIKE X), etc. Shadow The Hedgehog was an instance where Sonic Team tried to make a good solo game for Shadow after 3+ good games in a similar style (SA1, SA2, Heroes) and it inexplicably came out worse than the others because Shadow angered normalfags who sabotaged it. Bioshock Infinite lost plot points, gameplay features, scripting, pacing and more, suffered the wrath of Arin/Dunkey-type game critics who showered it in praise and then performatively started hating it 4 years later for maximum contrast, and is, to this day, still having the “condemning both sides is conservatism” cudgel shoved down its throat by the baby-oiled hands of pedophiles like the Twitter poster OP stole this thread from. I think /v/ will have a much easier time understanding some of its pet conflicts and wrapping its head around the tactics of its abusers if it views them through this lens.
this sounds like pseudo intellectual 4chan logic, aka a fucking retarded take. infinite was also just dogshit gameplaywise too.
>>724306068for>>724305720
>>724305097Is his wife even shown in the game or art books? I don't remember.
My wife, Elizabeth.>>724303405>the new recruitsWho're they?
>>724306169>Privates Hedge-Hog and Plower, MA'AM! I recruited them myself after explaining to them the benefits of joining the Army.
>>724306068Lol, yeah! Pseudo-intellectual 4chan logic. Good thing we’re not anywhere near that retarded place.
>>724306289Huh, first time I've heard about them getting involved with Lizzie.>the benefits of joining the Army.Those being?
I remember being blown away by Ellowas Elizabeth smut. Shit was ground breaking at the time and still to this day holds up despite the era it was made in.
>Comstock and Booker DeWitt are the same person, but their timeliness diverged when he did, or did not, receive a baptism in 1890>somehow the Lutece twins are different genders between their universes only 3 years laterOk, which one trooned out?
I think the game is great through the Slate's section and yeah after that it's just an incomprehensible escort quest where YOU'RE being escorted.
>>724301871>I can't be the only oneAnon it was NOTORIOUS garbage after Bioshock 1 and 2
>>724302495oh yeah, I never even stopped to think about the plot. I would just run past everything and shoot some niggas before uninstalling
There is nothing more pure than the love between man, daughter, and man's best friend
>>724301871mandatory posthttps://youtu.be/l_u18_BKczg?si=7SsJey0LVqucL4c3
>>724306624the timelines diverged for Booker. The chick was always a chick.
>>724306553As if it isn't apparent.
>>724306741*friends>>724306896It is, but I like hearing it out loud.
>>724301871I only beat it once and I barely remember anything but the nice avenues and the lame ending
>>724306169>Nooooooo! Don't lewd her!>ups her cup size, has her do the femme fatale shtick, and puts her in a prostitute outfitNo seriously. Ken. What gives, bruh?
>>724306169I have a friend i want to introduce to your lovely wife.His name is Odin, hes a really friendly Rottweiler
>>724303746They bought niggers from the prisons via corrupt officials, retard
>>724302495Big dumb gameElizabeth killing Booker is a Grandfather ParadoxIf there are infinite realities there should also be infinite realities where Elizabeth didn’t drown Booker at the baptism making the ending pointless
>>724301871>I can't be the only one who finds this game a hilarious trainwreckThere are a lot of trannies like you, yes
i dont remember the story much i just remembered something something racism bad something time travel something interracial couples are good something gay gay gay something portals. The shooting and gunplay were cool though, i mained the shotgun and handcannon the entire time and i loved how powerful that shit felt, bioshocks always made good shotguns, they look and feel good to use
>>724307494>piclol @ homosexuals
>>724307182Thanks! They'll get along swimmingly, I'm sure.
>>724307381That's no reason to say the N word, Matt.
>>724304865It's just outrage marketing. Trying to both cash in on male audiences that want to see cute girls but also maintaining plausible deniability and pretending to be a prude. It pretty much laid the groundwork for what overwatch did
>>724303360the daisy one is even funnier because the world they jump to at the end is so radically different and booker doesn't even hesitate one second to assume this fitzroy has any idea what the deal was.
>>724307357Wrong and even less logical.
>>724305537that dlc was insane to me because it showed even he didn't understand his own ending.the entire point of the baptism drowning scene is to prune the entire "comstock" branch out of the multiverse, how can there be more comstocks left around? why would elizabeth go hunt them down? why does she refuse to ally with Ryan when that would only be beneficial for her? why is she obsessed with saving this random little sister?i was baffled by how bad the dlc was
>>724308890Oh it's so much worse in how it fucks with Bioshock 1. The retcon with how the Big Daddys weren't bonded to Little Sisters until like two weeks into the civil war is some fuckin' nonsense.
>>724309217you also get them trying to turn daisy into a dindu and in turn made her kill herself to give the protagonist character development
>>724303576It's been a while since I played but I remember they say there's always a lighthouse and.... something. >At that point, none of the stakes, or even anything really, matters anymoreIt was about finding answers and solution to the whole thing. The twins supposedly sent Bookers a lot of time to save Elizabeth.
