Top: the MMORPG I played 20 years agoBottom: the MMORPG /v/troons and NIGGERS keep recommending me to get into TODAY, in 2025Is the OSRS experience really that pristine and majestic to justify having to endure such ugly abomination? This doesn't look right. This CAN'T be the best MMO to get into today... right?
runescape troons are a cultit was dogshit back then and it's dogshit nowat least ragnarok had soul back then
>>724305026>MMO>todaythere are no good MMOsthe sooner you accept this, the better
>>724305026You may not like it but that's what the peak performance MMO looks like, the game's just that good.
>>724305026Its a Sims 1 style idle game where you afk your character and watch a skill bar slowly go up. Its just IdleOn except it came out in the early 2000s so its got "soul" apparently. I'm sure it does, but it looks and plays like shit compared to other MMOs that came out at the time.
>>724305138This but around 10 years ago. The height of MMO's were early 00s, or basically before 2010/12.
>>724305371I love 300 apm idling so much bros
>>724305934lmao. Is this what's considered "peak MMO fun experience" these days?
>>724305026Runescape was literally never good. It was just the game people played on the school computers.
>>724305026Is there even a worthwhile MMO these days
>>724305934Skill issue.
>>724305026ragnarok looks so cute, I feel bad I missed out on the kino and high pop times
>>724307241Nope. And there also isn't any people worth playing with. Only minmaxers are left nowadays.
>>724307595It really wasn't good, don't listen to nostalgiafags. It's still kMMO bullshit
>>724305026play brighter shoresunlike rs its made by a company that hasn't forsaken and abandoned its player base yet
Just play on Ragna/v/
osrs is pretty fun. It takes far too long to get to the best content though
>>724308018I chuckled
Why does OSRS cause so much seethe on /v/?
The only thing OSRS has over other MMOs is that the early game is basically untouched from when it was still good in like 2004, so it actually succeeds at onboarding new players unlike WoW and XIV that are just miserable at the start. But once you get to the late game it turns into the same modern MMO brain rot as anything else in this godforsaken genre.
>>724309525Wow trannies unironically hang themselves whenever people bring up how much better osrs is
any other mmo besides wow where you can be invisible to other players?
>>724305934Carpal Tunnel GODS I kneel
>>724305026Both of those are pretty good.I'm literally playing Ragnarok Online right now and played Runescape a couple hours ago.I don't know what you are complaining about
>>724309889Alive? Probably not. But you could in Ultima Online, also open other people's inventories and steal directly from them, that was the thief archetype.In other games it's usually a time limited buff or something like that.
Runescape is the only "UNLIMITED" mmo. Meaning vast majority of people will never ever come close to finishing all content.Is it better than others? Maybe, maybe not. Depends what is important for you in a game.MMOs arent known for being good games anyway
Both are good at face value and when you first start new characters, but once it comes down to mid to late game turning into a massive grind, making that wonderful early game look like a distant dream
Bros I can't stand playing with people anymore, what's the best single player alternative for MMORPGs? I've never played Skyrim, will that do it? Is there something better? Maybe the Pathfinder games, or BG3, or something better as a replacement for MMOs?
MMOs died and that's a good thing. 500 hour grinds were not a fun activity.
>>724314903Kenshi
>>724315037MMOs died because they're casualized trash now where you can just start off at max level. I want to waste my life grinding with a fun combat system.
>>724316316And now you can do that without the game being live-service.
Trademark RS graphics is the only good thing remaining in the game thoughbeit
>>724305934>training 3 skills at the same time with 3x the banking stopsno way this is worth it right?
>>724308018Wait shittier shores is still online? Last I heard it was on release and it was the crappiest thing ever.
>>724308018>level 158>killing the same bug I was killing at level 3 or something
>>724317771Not since 2017 or so
>>724318443I quit before OSRS was a thing, whay happened in 2017 or thereabouts? I imagine it's not just quest elf girl.
>>724318675Mod Gee
>>724305026It's good that MMO devs are too retarded to figure out how to develop infinite progression without gating it behind hours of grind for almost zero return. MMOs should stay a genre that appeals only to shit eaters.
>>724318443What does she eat?
>>724305026OSRS is the only good and social MMO left.It's the only MMO that never time gates you, or invalidates your accomplishments with subsequent updates.The only problem(?) is that a substantial amount of the games content is behind hours of grind, not necessarily a bad thing, but for dopamine starved retards it may be a turn off.Ignore the pridespammer, xhe has severe mental illness.
>>724316316not every MMO is a WoW clone.
>>724305026>Is the OSRS experience really that pristine and majestic to justify having to endure such ugly abomination?Yes.Content in OSRS always grows instead of being seasonal like other MMOs and their expansions. It's part of every new account's typical progression to go grind content that was released 20 years ago. You'll learn the item names, you'll celebrate getting a 20 year old weapon and it'll be a huge upgrade to your experience and you'll probably be using it situationally for thousands of hours to come.Almost everything can be soloed or done as a group, if you feel like soloing you go solo, if tomorrow 2 of your friends are available at the same time you go trio, if next weekend you wanna hit the raid with all the homies you go and 7man it.Many requirements are soft-requirements, mainly gated by your skill (yes, your skill at clicking). You've got a musician's sense of rhythm and a FPS pro's clicking precision? You can literally go attempt the hardest content in the game within like 20 hours of starting your account, You can do any content, in any order, grind more, grind less, do afk grinds, do sweaty grinds, grind on mobile, grind at home, grind at the gym, every gain is a good and meaningful gain because there are no soft resets with patches and expansions.It's THE ultimate MMO experience.
>>724322803>You can literally go attempt the hardest content in the game within like 20 hours of starting your accountCan you really do a >>>>>>>>raid within 20 hours of poopsocking from lumbridge?
>>724322803>Content in OSRS always grows instead of being seasonal like other MMOs and their expansionsThere is literally nothing wrong with seasonal content. In fact I very much prefer it.That's all.
>>724305026OSRS as an MMO is for 2 people, autistics and bot creators.If you're not making your own bot for OSRS but you're playing it, you're autistic.
is there any other mmo like osrs that is more casual like less clicking and all that nonsense? i tried brighter shores but that shit is even more click intensive
>>724323581>andrew gower game is too click intense but maybe andrew gower game 2 will be betterbreh
>>724323474>you're autistic.Yeah I'm already aware I'm on cuatrochan.
>my favorite MMO is the only good MMO>you are gay if you play a MMO that isn't ths best MMO (which just so happens to be my favorite MMO btw)
>>724323329You could probably do ToA. Ironman fire cape speedrun is 10h, and inferno speedrun on a main is like 16h I think.
>>724323795That is quite literally every single /v/ thread nowadays about opinions. The dreaded zoom zoom talk:>"X bros where we at???????">"X ch*ds keep winning Y keeps losing">"Feels good to be a X ch*d"And so on. These people are incapable of having discussions without mudslinging.
>>724309525Back when I was in middle school everybody played F2P Runescape except for a small handful of people who's dad had a WoW subscription and they played that and everyone just went with "WoW was better but we're all too poor to even afford membership for Runescape so how could we afford WoW". Fast forward to today and WoW/Blizzard has become such an absolute laughing stock that Jagex and OSRS look like the pinnacle of video game development and it makes the WoWdrones on here seethe to no end. They used to seethe over FFXIV but now that game has also killed itself so they need a new hatred to latch onto.
>>724305026
>>724324702>2008Honestly? Warranted criticism. What the fuck were they thinking.
>>724318675>>724319238Mod Gee quit ages ago because the playerbase kept calling her art bad. It didn't fit the gameThe only good thing she contributed were the vampyres. I can only hope that Jagex one day fixes the WoW tier elves she did
>>724314903outward
>>724323990>Ironman fire cape speedrun is 10hahaha I have to see that sometime. From zero I assume?
>>724323329You could easily do entry ToA and there's likely some kind of CoX combination that'd be doableThat's not to say a brand new player could be doing a raid in a couple days though. But a lot of new players fall into traps that are no longer needed and burn out (bowfa grind)
I think ill get shit for this but I really think ill enjoy OSRS if it looked like RS2HD. I love the low poly but high detail textures and would KILL to see an option to flip the visuals to this
>>724305026>Hei anon you should totally play OSRS, here I even give you membership bond!>Start game>Control feel clunky and why there a delay everytime I want to do an action>Loot goblin everything I see>Try to go over fence/hole, opps you can't not enough agility>Everywhere is bloody far, where are my mounts>Continue travel to north where grand exchange is>Poke some cow and random stuff, holy shit they are strong>What is this bone and how do I even heal back my health>Finally big city, rush to grand exchange and ignore everything else>Saw some weird dude keep spamming campfire like this anon >>724305934>Pick up ash left by the campfire>Wow this thing is the most expensive thing I ever got>My jewish blood begin to awake>Time to check wiki which one is the best way to make money>Things I have done to make money>Charge air rune at obelisk, make arrow for alchemy spam, rubbing leaf>The most effortless money making is macro mixing super compost and volcanic ash into ultra compost>Get full rune armor and weapon set and finally we can play the game>Every single early quest and combat feel like boring mundane grind>Manage to collect 3m gp>Buy bond and payback to my friend>QuitFrom player that play ragnarok online and maplestory, this MMO just lack every single QOL features that hurt my finger and also filled with bots.
>>724305026osrs it's a botted shithole, don't fall for the jagex shills. skinnerboxes are shit but skinnerboxes where 90% of the "players" are bots and venezuelans and pajeets are the worst
>>724330158hdos.dev
>>724330204Looking shit up instead of exploring the world and figuring it out was part of what made it so great. You can do hyper autistic shit like that webm posted earlier or you can go mine some coal and figure out what you need to do one of the many quests. Optimizing the fun out of games
>>724314903rimworld gets close i suppose
I feel bad for everyone who didn't have the opportunity to experience this masterpiece in 2006~2011
>>724314903dot hack
>>724314903Xenoblade? The gameplay is very MMO-like.
>>724321732Every MMO with a playerbase* my bad. No, I don't want to play an everquest private server with 150 annoying faggots who dogpile every newbie they see.
>>724305026you get used to it then get stockholm syndrome at some point where you like the style
>>724330204yeah, looking things up quickly ruins most games' gameplay. At that point you might as well get a bot to do the optimal path for you while you watch. This game was fun when you had to watch out for people scamming you, when you would spend a week in castle wars even though you were level 60 with a rune longsword, when you talked with random people and got sucked into some sweatlords grind for 99 runecrafting, when you ran to gnome village to buy the cheap colorful clothes they had and resold them in various banks as fashion clothes for 10x as much because people didn't know they existed. The adventure was fun, not the end goal. MMOs are god awful not because everything is datamined and the information pasted into a dozen """content""" youtubers so people are speedrunning the gameplay and not interacting.
>>724305026I wouldn't know, I played mostly Lineage 2, I don't know how people can play MMORPGS without open PvP
runescape was god tier up til 2004. then there was no reason to keep playing unless you were a poor kid who's parents wouldn't sub you to WoW or EQ. let it fucking go already. "old school runescape" isn't even old school. runescape will always be 2d in my heart.
>>724330832holy fuck how have I never known about this!?Thank you king!
>>724309525Blizzard faggots are the most miserable losers in vidya
>>724314903Kenshi will last you anywhere from 50 to 50,000 hours depending on how autistic you are, im at around 500
>>724334848Every single seethe post is the same third world ESL
>>724333016oh shit I vaguely remember playing this for some time, even the same class I thinkfrom what I recall it was pretty fast-paced and the skill animations went crazy with effects
>>724305079fist post best post.I was about 12 years old when Runescape first released, back around the time Ragnarok Online and Toontown Online were new as well, and even back then, as naive kid, I could tell Runescape's gameplay was literally just grinding. It was soulless, there was nothing to it, and worst of all, it was ugly as FUCK.The only people who enjoyed it were the dumb kids who couldn't afford anything but a toaster to run games on so Runescape was the only game their toaster was powerful enough to play.I can't believe there are legitimately adults who have nostalgia for Runescape. It's atrocious both in style and substance.>>724305026Based. Are you me? I still play pre renewal Ragnarok servers to this day (shout out to Fenrir Saga)
>>724329038Yeah from account creation. It's a settled video from earlier this year. The fight caves alone are almost 6 hours of those 10 lmao.
>>724306464No, that is what SOMEBODY considers a peak MMO fun experiencethat's the cool thing about Runescape, you can do things however you like
>>724305026Its not the best but I still think its in the top 5 for MMOs in today's market that gvies you some semblance of freedom and a decent horizontal/vertical progression balance. I wish more leaned into skills with varied training methods like osrs/RS3 does along with emulating how quests are done in osrs too. My biggest gripe is how much polls have choked any sort of interesting ideas or items being added to the game. They were literally only supposed to be there to stop EoC or destructively bad decisions being added to the game. No one will ever experience the fun of browsing the forums or going to world 2 and seeing people selling some new crazy melee weapon called an "abyssal whip" that was added in a new skill, or having some guy cast spells at you right after a new quest or killing a new group boss and finding out it drops armor with a good strength bonus. It's so fucking sterile and "safe" now, everything has to be cross examined by some reddiot who thinks they should have the ultimate say in the game along with an evaluation panel by a cabal of addicted faggots (who will never quit and should be ignored because of that) that make sure every fucking little piece of content goes through their gay meta acceptance criteria checklist. I hate that I have to share the game with these fags that didn't even play rsc, much less start rs2 when it was in it's prime. Also fuck streamers, another playerbase whose opinions should be immediately discarded for out of touch they are
>>724340616>you can click on a variety of different things and watch different animations while a number goes up slowlyfixed
>>724333016I was too busy playing Cabal and Silkroad. Sorry, my friend.
I never liked that built in tick lag shit, could never get used to it. Something about p2p lag or whatever the the fuck that system is called just doesn't work with my brain, it's aids.
>>724314903ironman in osrs, maplestory
>>724330158Even though this was the era I played in, I always felt partial about it since I feel like the player character looked worse. Like there was something wrong with human default postures and some of their animations were really goofy looking compared to the OSRS ones.
>>724341924Rs does not have p2p connections
>>724305173ok the trans clothes and cat ears have the best stats thats why you wear them
>>724334692>I don't know how people can play MMORPGS without open PvPSimple. They're people who aren't fight retards.Sometimes a man just wants to go to the pier and fish, not fish and keep an eye out for dumbfuck muggers.
>>724342145>maplestoryPlease don't god damn, maplestory is fucking terrible nowadays.
>>724342261>some of their animations were really goofy lookingI always thought the wood cutting animation looked pretty silly with how much they flail their arms
>>724305026RO private server era was so fucking good. Countless modded servers popping up every day. So many players at all times. Community forums that people actively participated on. Finding exploits within the customized item prices for infinite money glitches. Maxing out DEX on a wizard when an admin pissed me off and spamming ice wall and dead branches all over Prontera until their server crashed. Making a rogue with the ice pick weapon to one shot people in max level pvp because they thought they were invincible with infinite armor.
>>724305026MMO devs are mentally retarded. They cannot design endgame that doesn't revolve around seasonal treadmills or days of korean grind for 0.000001% progress.Meanwhile roguelike and regular RPG fans stay winning.
>>724305026Even now RO just looks so good. Systems that just fucking work. Sandbox MMO with soul.
>>724343012Maplestory is about as single player as it gets with access to mmo stuff like guilds/chats/events. You will be told your hands are non-existent if you do not solo. Also ctene is fun.
If OSRS subscription was cheap it'd be a 10/10. With the sub being the same as WoW and FFXIV, I now have alternatives and would rather just play something else...!
>>724344746osrs sub is less than $10/month if you pay annually. I understand what you're saying, but if you play it right then you're playing it constantly. So that's not a lot.
>>724344692Maplestory Classic World is the only game I want right now and I would go out of my way to play it if it were available. Nexon just put it off until mid 2026 at the earliest. Sucks man I just want to play crossbowman or warrior again
>>724345036I was ready to drop challenger world to play classic if it launched immediately. You should consider giving challenger world 2(heroic) a shot in November. They're just fun in different ways, modern maplestory really pushes you if have the patience to do minclear solos. Though, you might think classic is a bit slow when that comes around.
>>724305026MMORPGs are dead. People still playing the existing games are mentally ill and unable to let go of the past. They waste their lives trying to grasp at something that's long gone.
>>724305026gosh you 2d graphics fags are obnoxious>hurr muh timeless graphicswe played smeared shit on polygons back in the day just to get away from 2d trash
>>724309525because they had some cringe LGBT events, theres one really devoted schizo who used to spam the threads about them whenever they popped up on /v/
>>724305026it's insane to me that this piece of shit still exists in current yearwe played it on school computers when I was 12 and I'm 36 nowyou need to have some kind of turbo autism to find it enjoyable as an adult
>>724305138spbp
>>724324702just so you know, the above text says I am pig amercain, I am idiot
>>724334848EQ released before RS and was better from the start. Not to forget FFXI, AC, UO or various smaller games. If you could pay you weren't playing RS. The game's only benefit was that it ran on almost any PC and it being on the browser made it easy to play on school PCs and such.
How come only koreans know how to make appealing MMOs?
>>724351417name 1 good korean mmo you can't nigga
>>724351593I said appealing, not good
>>724305026If you're playing a top-down game, it's not an RPG. Diablo and WoW aren't RPGs. They're fake-nerd slop.
>>724351417they might be visually appealing but the gameplay is always the same trash and the games are full gacha and cash shop garbage
>>724351593Ragnarok online
>>724342634>They're people who aren't fight retardsergo, pussies
>>724355939Only a retard fights all the time. A real man knows when a fight must be fought.
>>724305026You see the difference is the top is dead and the bottom is not dead, hope that clears up the confusion.
>>724357641that speaks on how the developers handled the gamesgravity has been trying to milk the ragnarok ip for 15 years totally ruining it in the processjagex correctly identified the sperg audience that likes rs and what version they like and started catering to their sperg tastes
>>724305026RO had more jewish mechanics than the average gachaskop today.
>>724305026osrs is just a solo grindfest anyway, not even an mmo
>>724305026Why do people play Old school RuneScape?What happened to modern RuneScape?
>>724305138>What is ROBLOX
>>724358969Simple version is they completely changed the way the game played and people didn't like it.Now RS3 is full of horrible microtransactions and other shit which OSRS doesn't have.
>>724358810I find it hilarious how /v/troons always say this as if it isn't their fault nobody talks to them.
>>724314903>what's the best single player alternative for MMORPGs?All modern MMOs and currently running older MMOs. They've been single player games for over 10 years now. You can reach the level cap and never talk to a single person. Only end game content is when you'll need to talk to someone and a lot of them have auto party systems.
>>724353735nta but mabinogi mobile had negative hype but instantly became a hit just because of its gameplay despite all else still being bad
>>724359360still mobileshit though
>>724305173Why did you go out of your way to interact with such obscure and cringe content just to dress up like that for a cheap screenshot?
>>724314903Yeah. Skyrim with mods will do it.
>>724305138my mmo is quite good
>>724351593all of them
>>724353735same but with non-korean mmos
>>724360789>Toram>good>>724361558>ToS>good
>>724362614yep, all of them
There is something fundamentally wrong with the genre that attracts the most power-hungry and bloodthirsty nerds (who have since developed autogynephilia and become troons)Every mmo community is fucking awful
>>724357773>jagex correctly identified the sperg audience that likes rs and what version they like and started catering to their sperg tastesCrazy that making games for customers is a radical idea now
>>724305026lol I was a prominent /v/ RO player for like... over a decadethank god I'm not sucked back into that game lately due to lack of servers.
>>724359060maybe like 13 years ago when it was niche and still marketed itself as one, it's now a steam competitor.
>>724362868your pedofilic tranny erp "games" aren't good
>>724363330it is too radical for anything where suits are making decisions and that certainly includes most mmorpgsif mmorpgs were made for the mmorpg audience maybe they wouldn't die a month after release
>>724364704>good>free>onlinepick all three
>>724365227>trash>"free">instanced
>>724363280trvke, and Im not sure what the fuck causes it, perhaps it's how mmos let them project their idealized selves in some tangible form or some shit
>>724365317>based>anti-ugly>not for feministsyep it's gaming time
>>724365227Why is the flag of Israel a skill slot change medal in a korean game? I see that symbol alot for magic spell casting in anime and video games actually..
>>724366081asians know that kikes deal in satanism
>>724365787shit was only good when there were 30k-50k people on the same server and before the anti-fun patches were implemented
>>724305026Just come play Ragna/v/ instead.rentry.org/ragnav
I'm just reading the posts here and suddenly find a screenshot of my own character >>724361558 from 10 years ago, posted by someone else.If anybody from old /tosg/ is reading this, I hope you've been well in the last decade.
>>724366913I should've been around for these pics but I can't recognize my characters. I got some pics but they didn't match either so maybe I missed the group photos. >I hope you've been well in the last decade.With the absolute state of MMORPGs, I can't say I've been well.
