>the latest close alpha is yet again widely hatedWhat went wrong?
Negative goodwill
>>724306729they shouldve made some titanfall knock off and be done with it. This strategic slow gameplay doesnt fit the energizing art style at all
Cemented my hatred of extraction shooters.Chores with a lose condition ass games
>>724306729All the talent in bungie left decades ago and all that's left is the business-idiots and nepotism hires.
>>724306981The fact that they managed to artificially inflate the value of the company through speculation fucking astounds me.Trying to understand big business is like being a Lovecraft protagonist, except the unspeakable squid horrors wear business suits.
I'm surprised my teammates actually waited for me to rez them instead of leaving immediately.And I had to wait a good 2 mins for the enemies to leave. After I rezzed them we killed two teams and exfilled successfully.
>>724306729>the whole game art-style looks like the graphics assets that failed to load properly>like walls, characters, everything>people fucking hate it, its so disgusting, people cant even fucking look at it, not to mention PLAY IT for a prolonged timeWHATWERETHEYTHINKING
>>724306953Crazy idea: they should have made a marathon gameBUT HERE COMES SOOOOOONY>Make a online only GAAS marathon game or else ..>b-but ..>WE OWN YOUThe End ~
>What went wrong?What went right?
>>724307121>people fucking hate itAnd those people aren't human.
>>724307165wow a 6 month old clip with destiny 2 melee animations........
>>724307172nobody will buy this game, bungie.
>>724307165>destiny, but if you played it on a slow HDD and the textures didnt load yet
I'm looking forward to Bungie getting gutted by Sony, and the destiny franchise to be under new management
>>724307165no thanks, I will stick to Apex
>>724307172>noooo if you don’t like the slop I like you’re not a real person!Seethe retard, your ugly kusoge is dead on arrival.
>>724307142You might be very dumb if you think this was not in the works before aquisition.
>>724307165looks like Apex Legends made in Roblox
>Sony ruins another already bad game by making it worseShocker.
>>724307165>its literally just Destiny 2 but with shittier skinsi dont get it.
>>724307165Players have unironically never been my main worry, the annoying ass robots with ultra power skills were
The downward spiraling is fucking brutal in this game. I've been on an almost unbroken 5 hour losing streak, got no money even for the shitty sponsor kits, and medkits and shield charges are ludicrously expensive. Did a rook run and loaded into a solo lobby so there was fuck all to loot because everyone had avoided fighting, only scrounged up about 700 credits worth of shit to sell and 1 decent weapon. First team I came across in my very next proper run had all blue shields and so I lost everything once again. This cannot release this way the playerbase is gonna drop to single digits after the first month
>>724307541Literally impossible to make this stinking piece of shit worse, this is gonna be a another concord-tier disaster at best.
lol
>>724307607Void Bomb should work.
>>724307142>>724307541You bungie shills aren't going to convince anyone this is sony's fault. How many companies has Bungie partnered with and bungie still continues to complain and underdeliver.
>>724307640They just gotta play arc raiders and copy as much as they can.
how 2 get glitch gf??>>724307607Those dudes that charge you are fucking annoying especially when you're in a tight spot and your teammate just went down, also I've been downed by a sniper twice now thinking it was a player but it was UESC clanker.
>>724307752so you want a tranny boyfriend?
>>724307752
>>724307752this looks like total fucking dogshit.
>>724307649>Graphics are realistic enough that they steal another artist's work, down to keeping the watermarkDaymn... THE REALISM...
>>724307198That's not destiny 2... this is!
Can’t wait for layoffs
>>724307894
>>724307165Enemies shooting hitscan weapons is so fucking gay. It just shows the people who made Halo are long long gone, enemies in Halo were so fun to fight because they shot actual projectiles you could run and dodge around instead of peaking from behind cover which is the most boring and lazy way to handle enemies.
>>724307165Why don't you shills post someone playing the game this week and not a clip from the gameplay reveal 6 months ago that has stolen assets in it?
played for an hour and uninstalled>ttk lowered while making ai more deadly>poverty kit gives you no shields and a nerfed overrun ar with only a 20 round mag now and barely any ammo>the second you encounter ai you take 2 shots from far away and have to spend the next 10 seconds in a healing animation >you can dump an entire mag into the ai enemies head and it wont kill him, meaning the second you reload and his damage stun wears off he is slapping your shieldless ass
>>724306729They are making the WRONG FUCKING GAME!NOBODY WANTS A SHITTY EXTRACTION SHOOTER.MAKE A SINGLE PLAYER/CO-OP CAMPAIGN YOU IDIOTS!!!
>>724307930I was joking before but this gives me hard concord vibes. Who the fuck is this game for? Extraction genres are already a niche genre
>>724308025ummm sweetie... they don't sell, they don't have any staying power and you can't build an esport scene around it
>>724308025>MAKE A SINGLE PLAYER/CO-OP CAMPAIGN YOU IDIOTS!!!i wouldve loved this but bungie just wanna make shitty live service carrot on a stick games that drip feed you dopamine as slow as possible
>>724308025Games are to expensive now because of all the diversity hires and how long it takes the jeets to make the game for AAA devs to make single player games. It needs an online element so they can sell shit in it like battle passes.
>>724308025>NOBODY>NOBODY WANTS A SHITTY EXTRACTION SHOOTER.ARC Raiders begs to differ.Looks like it's having quite a succes (at least among twitch streamers) even tho it's still in early acces stages.
>>724308193Games are too expensive now because management is over paid for doing little to no work.
>>724308091I don't think a free extraction shooter "sells" either
>>724307172aw, bungietroon is seething :)
>>724308025they don't care what the audience wants and making a good game isn't the goalall that matters is selling microtransactionsgaming bad grifting good
>vampire shill switches to next pile of shitNobody even played marathon. It was garbage.
I hate extraction shooters.It is a subgenre designed to waste your time chasing very small bursts of extremely big highs.
>>724306729I don't understand what bungie's fucking problem is. The only good things destiny had were the movement, the gunplay and the weapons (actually interesting exotics that could be rare loot), and then they threw that all in the bin and instead just made shit as always. All they had to do was copy the basic gameplay from destiny and the game would at least have felt decent to play.
>>724308469Bungie would rather remove all verticality and make robots get tired after sprinting for 10 seconds. Fuck marathon
>>724308469It's just a bit bizarre that games in 2025 don't have presentation and feature qualitative and quantitative parity with games from 2007 (and before).
>>724307648>literally impossiblemandatory PSN account for all countries, 3 months after the release
>>724307165is this meant to be impressive
>>724308469This is baffling. Running makes you a tank that can only turn with the mouse.Sliding has a lot of momentum but then stops you dead in the tracks and 2 slides make you exhausted.The game plays like a shitty Apex for Xbox 360 gen Also there's something extremely wrong with how the AI manages aggro
>>724308624god this game is ugly to look at
>>724308381AgreedTheres very little satisfaction to be gained>wow you found a gold backpack?>lose it the next game because your squad joined with the starter kit!>completed a contract?>now you can unlock TADS ping having a 10m+ radius!
>>724307165This is not representative of the actual game. This is better than the current alpha, the TTK isn't too low, you need to ACTUALLY aim multiple shots, firing at range makes sense because UESC scouts don't nail you full health and shield with a single sniper shot and the map is much tighter and with less time wasting
>finally get time to play>time to try out Rook>spawn in>walk towards a building>literally less than 2 minutes>another Rook spawns right behind me>immediately kills meYeah, I'm done with this. Have fun getting liquidated by Sony.
>>724308624>empty entire mag into robot>it doesnt die and it starts chasing youits just not fun
>>724308278Little of column A, little of column B
pvpve just sucks in generalhaving ai that is very annoying to kill, very deadly and constantly respawning does not mix well with having 5 other enemy squads running around the map listening for shots so they can 3rd party you
I like that the scavs/PVE is somewhat lethal, and actually populate/enter exit buildings, but man I will never get over the visuals. Interiors I am fine with but the actual ground/environments look so bland. They might be better off just making a giant fucking building than trying to mesh the outside normal landscapes that look washed out, with the visuals of the buildings/interiors.
I will never find this Nucaloric id thing
>>724308624you know what's baffling?These are fucking robots, why isn't there limb damage? Let me shoot their arm and leg off to disable them and finish them off later
>>724308989In the tick nests
>>724307980I don't think you know what that word means
>we brought back Soldier of Fortune as a sugary live service mario kart cloneI really wonder why people are negative about something along these lines.
>>724309106Are you defending this trash game?
>>724308278everything is like this. quit my last job because the store 'manager' called me a liar when i asked about a policy change he was unaware of, and the yell at me for 'raising my voice' when my typical softspoken nature was put on hold. he tells his boss "head office sends out material and the employees put it out, how am i supposed to know?" and his boss nods like that makes it all perfectly acceptable.i'm never working again. the whole world needs to collapse.
>>724309129>live service SoF mario kart cloneIf this was real it would still be 10 times better than whatever dogshot nuBungie is sharting out
>>724309201do you think a post that says>>What went wrong?>What went right?is defending the game you're either retarded, esl, or both
>>724306729Nothing. It looks and plays great.
If you think marathon has potential i think you should stop playing videogames
>>724309312you're a retard got it.
>>724309375in your dreams maybe
If only you knew how bad things really are.
>>724306729You just know the game is DoA when even shills stopped trying to be stealthy about it, Sony just keeps on losing
>>724309483thank you for admitting your brownness
>>724306729Does anyone have alpha screenshots of the new artstyle?
>>724309532Sloppunk
>>724309429Wow blacked out skins before the game even launched bungie really is desperate
>>724309568We get it shill you'll defend the game for minimum wage. Get back to work.
>>724309429this looks like an ad for some clothes
>>724307165>>What went wrong?>What went right?Nothing. From the start this game was fetid.The art is simply horrible. They already had a good design with the concept and finished art for the OG Marathon games. The environments were industrial and futuristic and had good potential for both camp and scariness.Trend chasing and making an extraction shooter is one of the worst ideas you could have. Especially when your studio has a history of making some of the best and most renowned singleplayer campaigns...Nothing went right.
>>724307936>>>> Anonymous 10/27/25(Mon)07:21:39 No.724306818▶>world actually ended in 2012 and the people who remained are in purgatory>this is our punishment>>>> Anonymous 10/27/25(Mon)07:23:10 No.724306885▶>Negative goodwill>>>> Anonymous 10/27/25(Mon)07:25:07 No.724306953▶>>724307142>>>724306729 (OP)>they shouldve made some titanfall knock off and be done with it. This strategic slow gameplay doesnt fit the energizing art style at allIt's finebut it requires an overly safe methodological overly formulaic playstyle (or inane health/respawn systems)Projectile enemies works out better the more novel design and facilitates much more interesting and varied playstyles. Not sure why hitscan seems to be working for extract shoots. Maybe audiences legit only want to play one way. Still, its getting saturated
>>724310186holy newfag
>>724309020Hey, I remember that feature from Binary Domain, 13 years ago (2012)
>>724307121>>724307649>>724310113>the artstyle is fucking horrible and no actual human beings like it>they basically stole all of the basic design assets they used to create this "aesthetic"its only slightly more comical than it is pathetic
>>724307165I'm in no way a graphic fag(mostly play switch nowadays) but this looks fucking horrid
>>724309043It's CLOSEDIT'S ALWAYS CLOSED
>>724306729None of the old Marathon soul.
>>724310237>sequel or spiritual successor never everI'd say its not fair but considering how much of a mixed bag all the yakuza remakes have been I guess I should count my blessings that you can still pretty easily play it on modern machines
>>724310346have you checked the roof?
>>724310186>Not sure why hitscan seems to be working for extract shoots.arc raiders doesn't use hitscan enemies so the pve is actually fun, using hitscan enemies is probably because devs are so inept they can't handle that many players and enemies on one map for enemies to be shooting actual projectiles so it lags causing them unable to dodge them
It's sad that the desire for 'STALKER but multiplayer' is ultimately responsible for creating this slop genreOutside of Tarkov, nearly ALL of the cash ins on the craze have been TRASH
/v/ hates it so I will buy it
>>724310763Yes, it was completely flat with no hatchesI just exfiltrated with a bunch of weaponsI hate this gay fetch quest shitIt's tutorialized so badly
>>724310889Tarkov is also trashthe concept simply doesn't work if you have any wrinkles in your brainif its multiplayer its going to become dogshit where you have to wipe everyone's progress every few months to make poopsockers actually want to keep playing and to try and alleviate the problem of people with maxed out gear sets just shitting on everyone else who isn't yetif its singleplayer just make a game with an actual world to loot and explore instead of the extractionshit that only exists to make the concept work in a lobby of players
>>724311046buying a live service game for 40 dollars that will go f2p in 6 months and shut down within 2 years lol
>>724306953So what would stop me from playing titanfall instead?It's still online and I get games in one minute during the weekend and 3 to 7 during the week. 7 being when you play at the dead hours.
>What went wrong?My excitement for this game dropped like a rock when the in-game graphics were revealed and instead of being realistic like the trailers they look like fortnite dogshit
>>724307165I hate the way this cretin controls the camera.
>>724311281titanfall is not NEWTHING so normalfag redditors do not play it as they gain no social value from playing itif they don't play NEWTHING they can't talk to their peers about their shared experience playing/watching NEWTHINGthat's all video games are to them, like all media, a vehicle for driving their social life rather than something to be enjoyed in itself
>>724311421Bungie didn't make the trailers they outsourced them to people who have real talent
>>724307165Wow cool Roblox server
>>724311504I require assistance from Pete.
>>724307165>High ttk, instant healing, fast sprint, tense actionThis is so much better than what I'm playing in this awful closed alpha
>>724311421This a multiplayer game that will be available on consoles, of course they're not going to make every character have 3000 hair strands. It already barely runs as it is.
>>724311805But why does every character look trans?
>>724306729This isn't Marathon. They just slapped the title of the franchise on this generic shooter because if they didn't no one have given a fuck about this drop in the ocean of shooters with "neon punk aesthetics"
>>724306729>>724306729The fact that they used the name marathon still angers me
>>724311805It doesn't need to be 1 to 1 with the trailer fidelity wise, just the same style. Cod Warzone came out six years ago and had a realistic artstyle, on PS4! They even had some latex plasticy skins
>>724312098yeah man diehard lifelong marathon fan since 2022 like everyone else im sure
Sony had rights to ghost in the shell so it's genuinely baffling they picked marathon as a setting
>>724311805Nod my problem. Bungie needs to be better devs.
>>724312453Did they pick marathon as a setting beyond the title of the game?
>>724311881because you're a faggot lol
>>724308275>ARC Raiders begs to differ.there is no endgame to extraction shootersno storyjust shitting on other playerspsychopath gameplay loop for antisocial chudsAI has taken over the earthbetter kill all other humans thenwhat total garbage
It's not fun and it's fucking ugly. Tarkov players hate it, Arc players hate it, and Destiny players hate it. They made an extraction shooter for everyone that nobody likes. I'm ready for Sony to devour Bungie fully.
>>724306729>Extraction slop>Fantasy Scifi setting>No gun autism>Obvious set up for cash shop shit.>Combat looks like a hero shooter>Setting looks kinda bland. They have this slick scifi setting, and every gameplay bit I see is just a generic field of grass with dirt roads and a random truck that looks like an iMac sitting in it.
>>724307142>trying to blame SonyThe only fault of Sony was being dumb enough to buy this studio
>>724312930That doesn't have anything to do with what he said. Arc Raiders is the third most bought game on steam right now and its just preorders, it will be big.For end game, end games always retarded in every single online game ever made. We don't need games to last forever where you have to play every day like an MMO. I'll be happy to play until the "end game", get a hand full of queen kills and then put the game down until theres a new map / boss to fight.
>>724308545Bungie always sucked for that in Destiny pvp as well, too many right angled choke points that create these shit messes , no vertical of building structures or other ways to take a fight and flank normally. Marathon had the buildings issues where everything feels like you’re just bullying somebody who got stuck in a dead end hallway and there’s no real alternate way out or through
i see nothing but same posts shitting on this game and i think the artstyle looks kinda cool, is this just a organized disinfo campaign from a competitor?
>>724306729What went wrong?It's another forgettable shooter only this time the art and style is fuck ugly and the devs got caught stealing art
>>724308872I know this is the most progressive equality supportive corner of the internet but seeing the pic and the “never used windows” failed upwards speech, is giving flashbacks to when I got grilled in an interview because I didn’t have experience with some specific propriety company version of database software despite using more or less the same thing at a different job. Life really isn’t fair
>>724313609>artstyle is a massive downgrade and shift away from the trailers>confirmed extreme plagarism including straight up copy-pastes theft of small artists (billion dollar company btw)>have actually gotten our hands on the game through tests and it sucksit's not good anon
>>724313609stop implying that we come from some discord serverwe just know for sure this game is shit, always will be shit and nothing can change that
It being online GAAS shit is Sony's fault.It being a shit game is Bungie's fault.
>>724313609it looks like shit you retarded redditor
>>724307894That is a very outdated WebM. Try again moron.
>>724313845>>724313849>>724313914very organic indeed
>>724314014cope retarded shill it looks like shit
>>724313845why do we care about a design team intern lifting some stencils from a deviantart tranny "artist" exactly, anon?
>>724312646Bungie shill is big mad
nu/v/ that craves brown and bloom generic shooters would shit itself to death if they witnessed Mirrors Edge
>>724306729I'm sure it's horrible, but surely it's just a meme to shit on it now, right? It can't really be that bad or they wouldn't keep getting players
>he's still at it, every day for the past week, hours without endliterally mind broken by a video game HAHAHAbased bungie
Just play Duckov instead of this shit
>>724314176What players?Barely a thousand are playing now and they accepted invites every day
>>724311281>>724311504how good/bad is titanfall on pc with a controller? I used to play it on xbox but I don't have live anymore
>>724306729As a true millennial who played the original 3 as a child, the existence of this redditroonery version of Marathon pisses me off to no end.
>>724313609It's the opposite, you're in here samefagging and shilling it just like you were yesterday.
>>724314228That's not that low
>>724313609>>724314014>>724314170>>724314202Cringe shill campaign.... Pretending people don't hate your game won't trick people into liking it.
>>724314170>Carefully crafted color schemes vs legos from the random box mashed together
>>724314414Yes it isIt means people stop playing early
I like the environments, I hate everything else in this game. This is the worst game Bungie has ever made. Just not fun at all and I can't stand the characters, ui, and boring gameplay. Also proximity chat is finally in but it's off by default so nobody uses it. They'd rather make the heckin trans folx feel safe than have a fun and successful extraction shooter. I'm glad Bungie will finally die.
>>724306729Did they remove all the stolen art?
>>724314414My friend was streaming the game for me privately in discord and it looks like dogshit. They also were sending me pictures from the NDA feedback channel and everyone seems to hate it still.
>>724314170Dishonest postThis is the third map since you have censored your IDIt's bungie fault for making 2 shit maps playable in the open beta
https://litter.catbox.moe/0erclwojwf0f8bu5.mp4i'll just post the kino cutscenes from playtest because they make anti-bungie pajeet brigade seething
>>724314414It's half of what the first alpha had and this alpha has twice as many owners according steamdb. It's fucked, people just aren't interested in playing it because it's boring and poorly designed.
>>724313609It's literally just one guy with a vendetta against this game, he has been samefagging hard trying to shit on this game for like the past three days.Totally mind broken by Marathon. It's sad and pathetic really.
>0.9s ttk with a full auto weapon through full health and green shields and lmg shieldWhat the fuck
>>724314170so hecking true
>>724314607At least you admit you're not posting this because anyone likes it and asked for it.
>>724314109I don't think it's cool for a zillionaire megacompany to try to blatantly steal from the little guy without crediting or compensating them. Even outside of the irrefutable evidence it's clear so much of the rest of the games artstyle is also inspired from this one guy. I have no idea what gender they are and I don't care
>>724314607>https://litter.catbox.moe/0erclwojwf0f8bu5.mp4All of this shit with the lore could've been so cool if this game wasn't a dogshit extraction shooter pvp game. Why couldn't they just make it a solid single player game like System Shock or something?
>>724314674i know punjabi is your first language pajeet-kun, so i'll quote it for you>because they make anti-bungie pajeet brigade seething
>>724314725Sony bought them for $3,600,000,000 to make live service slop, not video games.
>>724314782the game is going to crash and burn shill. get over it
>>724314782There's no "anti-Bungie" brigade, retard.Destiny general gives zero fucks about Marathon beyond pointing and laughing at the obvious trainwreck.People hating this are people disgusted at how shit this alpha is
>>724314725>solid single player game that doesn't sound like it could have rotating shop and battlepass to me anon
>>724314451>legos from the random boxyes, thats exactly what im thinkingbut only neon, white and blackits just so awful to look at, blocky neon coloured vomit thats so hard to read that you cant even make out the features of characters
>>724306818fact
>>724314725outpost map from the playtest proves that they do have some PVE encounters in mind, there is a proper bossfight with actual mechanics, but barely anyone reached it in the playtest because its pretty fucking hard to not die on the outpost itself, considering that they have been listening to feedback and adding shit people asked for (like prox chat that nobody fucking uses) and the overwhelming calls for pve shit, i bet they gonna add some pve instanced content down the road
>>724306729still using stolen shit? probably it.
>>724313838>I got grilled in an interview because I didn’t have experience with some specific propriety company version of database software despite using more or less the same thing at a different job.I want to strangle people who do that. I mean how little are you thinking when you can't understand that you already know the logic and that is like 90% of what you need to know? I think companies that do that were never serious about hiring anyone. They could have promoted from within.
>>724314607These are cool, thanks for sharing
Destiny 2 is my most played game of all time, unfortunately, and this is fucking dog shit. I almost can't believe Bungie is killing themselves over this shit, at least Destiny had a vision at one point.
>>724315059I don't give a fuck about whatever fashion of fetch quest they'll addNo session can be longer than 25 minutes so they can't craft anything as well designed and deliberate as an actual raid or pve content
>>724307450You are very dumb if you think it wasnt sonys decision to turn ot into gaas dogshit>>724313205>sony is the good guyget real homo
>>724306729>widely hatedby whom?
>>724306729They may as well try and make an RTS game for babies and tards. The core audience of the genre don't want it. So then the game has to appeal to an audience that don't like the current iterations of the genre. They will probably never work out how to create that appeal.Also this whole idea of "we've balanced this so you have to play with 2 other players, but no you cant talk to each other" is contradictory.
>>724315765Me and most people with alpha access, we have double the keys of the first alpha but with less than a quarter of the players of that one.
>>724315708LMAO this dude really is a bungie nigger
>>724315105>They could have promoted from within.Usually that is what they are doing. They "open interviews" when they finally intend to hire a long-time contractor or other nepotism pick on as an employee.
>>724315903did you take a survey of everyone who had access? can you link it?
>>724315059Knowing how Bungie operates on very cheap disposable hype and flash(see watchable content comment when GM NF entered D2 or raid races) I have no doubt in my mind they’re going to bank a lot on tedium even if there’s not a ton else to the game. I’ve heard chatter with the marathon ship map having Destiny raid like mechanics that call for using things you pull off different maps and infil with and causing a situation of people trying to basically have a shitmess slapfight while trying to do mechanics.
>>724306729It's fucking ugly and soulless looking. Also, will they steal release content again?
>>724314621Boring and poorly designed are the hallmarks of every hit game today. >Warzone>Battlefield 6 >Latest FOTM VS clone
>>724315987here's the watchable content btw
>>724316064>Also, will they steal release content again??
>>724315953It's in the nda discord, if you got invited.
>>724316176They stole most of the textures for Marathon from some troon. They also stole a ton of stuff for Destiny 2 over the years. They're still going through the lawsuit over the original Destiny 2 campaign and curse of Osiris being stolen.
>>724314607>Nucaloric>tastes like meat but isn't They really cooked here
>>724316298you should zoom the playercount even further so its even more obvious that you have an agenda, current playtest maintained a steady playercount through all days
>>724316602My point is showing the steep decline in players and total lack of interest, even compared to the first alpha. That's why I made sure to show the dates. I hope this helps and you can find work somewhere else when Sony shuts you guys down.
>>724316602And they constantly accepted new people every day
>>724306729>destiny 2 gunplay>awful map>overtuned AI>extraction shooter with nothing unique>hero abilitiesthe only cool thing is the art and that's stolen. it doesn't help that Arc Raiders is actually a good implementation of this genre with unique elements, why the fuck would I play this shit
>>724316825>good implementation>third person perspective
>>724313609The art style is pretty much the only thing actually interesting about the game. I like it personally, it reminds me of games like N++ and Wipeout 3. But the actual gameplay looks like generic slop.
>>724306729>the latest close alpha is yet again widely hated I'm actually in the closed test and have access to discord channels that only people that are actually playing the game can use, not random people on 4chin. The general reception seems to be fairly positive, there is some negativity but overall the sentiment feels more optimist than ever before, also the numbers don't seem to be going down on the steam charts at all, same average number of players every day, not sure if it's because more people gettinga access, people sticking to it, or both.For me I've had fun when playing with friends with proper strats, comms and shared goals. Playing with crew fill is pretty bad, barely better than being alone (if not worse), no uses in game vc, matchmaking doesn't look for people with the same contracts etc. Not familiar with extraction shooters, is that a normal problem with this genre?One thing that is most likely a problem is the longevity and content quantity, the only PvE AI is UESC bots, they are varied enough but there need to be more factions, destiny 1 vanilla came out with a bunch of them, why does this only have one? 3 maps and one a few weeks after release is "fine" for an extraction shooter, but the problem is that the 2 maps I have access to look the same, same flora and fauna, same enemies, they feel the same.Well that's my 2 cents on it if anyone is actually looking for a proper unbiased opinion. Can answer some questions if anyone is interested
>>724311881In the future it will be found to be more efficient to make all humans hermaphrodites.
>new updatethere will be a vault reset tomorrow and downtimethen the test will be extended by two days
It looks great.
>>724317252Even the 3d printed robots?
>>724317079Bro is comparing this asset flip to d1, he's cooked
>>724315765most of the gaming world it seems. Did you see how the Alpha did? Have you played any Halo since 2014?New bungie is where IP goes to die.
>>724317739>most of the gaming world it seemscan you show actual data of this or is this just shitty rhetoric?
>>724317810his favorite streamer asmongold said so
>>724316902>skill issuelearn to get good zoomoid
>>724317810Yeah wait until the nda drops so all the people who played don't feel threatened to speak out for fear of being banned.
At this point, just scrap the game and make a AA-budget actual new Marathon game. Not some extraction shooter wearing the IP like a skinwalker. Least that'd get some goodwill back if it ends up being above average.
>>724317980i just dont find camping and abusing third person perspective to peek corners risk-free stimulating in any way anon
>>724318220>abusing third personouting yourself
>>724317980who are you quoting?
>>724317878You've been going at this for at least 3 days, go outside.
>>724317342You can tell the test was a complete disaster and they collected zero actual data because 90% of the limited playerbase just went around with sponsored kit and barely achieved anything, so they just said fuck it and pit everyone on an even randomized playing fieldThat already tells everything you need to know
>>724318408the only fans bungie has (destiny 2 fans) didn't ask for this game, and aren't going to play it. Everyone normie is already turned off by destiny 2 they're shooting themselves in the foot by alienating existing fans while trying to drag in new people to their already existing shitty practices, new people don't have a sunken cost they're not going to stick with this game. End of story.
>>724306729toxic positivity, probably
keep trying
>>724314170Why does that looks like a 360 game? (and uses 1000x more resources?)
>>724314170>>724314665What's with the anti soul gas? I swear, games in 2004 had better draw distance
>>724306729>widely hated>only feedback is retards on steam forumsthat's like taking youtube comments as a benchmark you retard
>>724314109Why should private companies be allowed to shit on independent artists, when the second you violate their copyright you're annihilated with a tungsten rod from outer space?
>>724307649maybe they should've been inspired by marathon instead?
>>724307165>Game: The Video Game (Online Edition)
>>724306729Turns out they stole art assets.>>724306981Also this.
>>724319071Cause artists are annoying fags
>>724318638Most people are intrigued by the art and the world and recognize that they're making a genuine effort to improve the game
>>724319676So you admit the game is in a bad state.
The game still looks like ass.
>>724319673And business executives aren't?
>>724319676Renaming the heroes to their roles and shortening the ttk isn't fixing the game.
>>724314170marathon is a gritty sci-fi shooter, not mirror's edge
Apparently, people are hacking already. Bungie anti-cheat is the equivalent of soggy swiss cheese.
>>724319673You're too. So what, corporations should be allowed to steal from you now?
I should install this now huhI've never played uuh "extraction shooters" before, what is this shit even?
>>724320081Even if the game ends up being good, this game is fucked if Destiny 2 is anything to go by. The cheating is rampant and blatant. They even brag to the community managers on Twitter that they're cheating and don't get banned. Bungie laid off their anti-cheat team years ago lol
>>724320235It's like what if Arc Raiders was bad and had no proximity chat because trans Bungie employees could get their feelings hurt.
>>724320308can't you just turn it on?
>>724306729Only Destiny retards care enough to either like it or hate it, the rest of the world just laugh at the incoming release disaster.
>test just got extended because of all the positive feedback/v/ sisters… this can’t be happening
>>724319676Only shills are pushing this shit about how good the marathon art is, Everyone knows they copied the art from other games and people. The art is the only thing people at bungie are proud of about the game, but its tainted so it literally does not matter. Also if you just care about art go work on a movie or something, people play games for the fucking gameplay, If you have to be told that as a game dev find a new job.
>>724320408It's off by default so it effectively doesn't exist. Anyone in software development can tell you that. People do not change settings.
>>724306729>What went wrong?If I had to take a guess, it's probably Bungie desperately trying to not make the game fun/fast/complex in any way, because they think they need it to cater to console retards that liked Halo and/or Destiny.
>>724320413I'm a Destiny retard and I'm laughing at it, most of us are.
If I was sony I would just kill the gameLike this shit is doa
The delay and allowing Arc Raiders to overshadow it is one of the most devastating things that could happen to Marathon.
>>724319849True, we should round them all up and throw them in a pit together so they can kill each other
>>724306729Extraction shooter long after the genre's hype died outUgly, soulless art designMaybe that latter part doesn't matter so much to people but it matters a lot to meGame's fucking ugly and that's reason enough not to play it
>>724320413I'm laughing, but through the pain. Destiny has given me some of the highest highs of my gaming career. It truly sucks to see what it has become.
Bungie helped cancel Factions 2 because of "poor player retention" and gaslit ND into thinking they could never make another game after, but then greenlit this game
>>724319673you're an annoying fag so that means i can also freely steal from you with no consequencessorrylive by the sword die by the sword
>>724320647They should kill Bungie first
>>724320424>>test just got extended because of all the positive feedbackLol it got extended because people ignored the battlepass garbage and couldn't progress through any contracts and upgrade tree, retardThey are just randomizing starting loot to playtest balance, which really shows they figured there's zero player retention and most that end up losing a bunch with the sponsored kits just quit
>>724320424>Reset vaults because nobody was playing how they wanted to and didn't progress through anythingBungie cooked!
>>724320424>A reset that will eat your vault, gear, and most progression.>Then we'll deploy a free cache to the Wares menu that gives a random assortment of loot.>This package can be redeemed an unlimited amount of times so throw caution, and your loot, to the wind!It's an admission that the game is not fun and has no player retention, with players struggling to get ahold of any loot, gear or upgrades because fuck your fetch quest bullshit.It's evidence that they have no idea what the fuck they are doing
>>724321113>there's zero player retention and most that end up losing a bunch with the sponsored kits just quit
>>724307121Art style is the only interesting part of the game though. Its corporate globohomo art cranked up to dystopian levels. Everything being plastic and clean.The trailer when the last beta dropped was unironically soul
Let the folks at Bungie cook and jam...
>>724321113>>724321269>>724320424>uhhhh akshlyy its because there is zero player retention and uhhh battlepassyou niggers are hilarious
>>724321494They accepted new invites every single day, retardDay 1 playtesters just didn't stick around, nor any other group for more than a few hours
>>724321494They're accepting new people daily and its still below peak
>>724321521They didn't like the feedback they got and nobody is playing it so they sent out even more invites.
>>724321521>During the playtest we will implement loot, vault, wares shop, battle pass and facrion upgrades, test it out and let us know your feedback :)>Actually nevermind we are resetting everything, go play with premade call of duty loadoutsYes you are right anon, everything is peachy and well
>>724321521Why do you use the classic /v/ images to try to blend in? It just makes you stick out more, shill.
>>724321574>>724321648>>724321696organic line of posting saars>>724321782>why are you using /v/ images on /v/do you realize how retarded you sound like
>>724321901Esl
Why are they still bothering? It's like putting $500M into a live service extraction MOBA where you have to roll your character via gacha, with real time survival elements and degrading crafted gear, all based on some obscure 1991 cartoon that no one watchedIt's never going to be successful, why not just cancel it and write it off as R&D expenses while you can?
Bungie COOKEDJust look at these AWESOME and COOL charactersThe team JAMMED
>>724322004Glitch is hot in the trailer but looks like a Down's Syndrome retard in the game. Cruelty Squad meets Concord is a funny idea on paper but this shit sucks.
>>724321901You stick out like a sore thumb you're out of your element shill
>>724321998Sony paid $3,600,000,000 for Bungie and Bungie sold them that they were making the next big live service game.
>>724322189What's greater, Sony's retardation or Bungie's proficiency at bullshitting?
>>724321019And then themselves for burning $3.5 billion on this shit company.
>>724320081B-b-but Sony's online is hacker proof!AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEE
>>724322129Ain't xhe a tranny.
>>724322390Probably, it's a Bungie game.
>>724322129Bungie didn't make the trailer that's why it looks good.
>>724322636>Bungie continuing the trend of not being responsible for anything good related to their gamesJust like how Rise of Iron and Forsaken were mostly made by Activision support studios. I'm so sick of these retards, I'm ready for them to go out of business.
>>724322602>always blaming the higher up but never the dev team that's full of incompetent retards
keep trying xisterthey'll get tired of playing the game and realize you were sooo right and then you'll win all the internet points!
>>724322786Who controls the retards?
>>724322786You can blame both, anon.
>>724322784How was the person who suggested this not fired on the spot anywayIt's like that one EA monetization guy who unironically suggested>lol what if we billed people per reload in a ranked match>they're not price sensitive when they want to winand he was immediately told to fuck off and never come back
>>724313609Based noticer. For whatever reason there's a campaign against marathon. I won't be getting it because extraction shooters are gay
>>724322827>he doesn't know
>>724321521>Disabling the need for loot in an EXTRACTION shooter means the test is doing wellHow fucking stupid are you?
>I Stand With Bungie
>>724322890I do, but not the majority>>724322827At this point i believe no one does, they're just free to do whatever the fuck they want
>>724321901uh oh, bungie poojet melty!
>>724322976At this point Marathon being a cursed flop is common knowledge
>>724313609I know it may be hard for you to understand but two seperate people may like or dislike the same thing without being joint cohorts in some grand conspiracy
>>724323110They would not be making marathon if the dogshit management didn't shove it down theirs and everyone elses throat.
>>724314262If you are really good with a controller you'd do ok doing jump-ins on people and dumping with smgs. No way you'll win duels, get trickshots or compete against dedicated players.
Why am I not allowed to enjoy this game?
>>724323280Why would you enjoy this game?
>>724322948Because in this specific context it makes sense. Bungo didn't want people to expect Forsaken tier expacs when they didn't have several capable support studios propping their mediocre asses up. (see >>724322752 )It's the reality that on its own, nu-Bungie simply isn't capable of making anything truly great. Bear in mind that that presentation was given to other developers -- many of whom were probably suffering from the same competency crisis. Of course it all blew up in Bungie's face because of that whole "Internet" thing and word got around.
>>724323280There's nothing to enjoy in this game as it's yet another dull extraction shooter
>>724323280if you actually enjoyed it you would be playing it and not posting here.
>it's le higher ups fault, muh dev dindu nuffin!Upper management are always the same dumb greedy idiots no matter what big budget game they are makingIt's matter of whether or not the dev can stand up for his vision instead of just becoming another yes man to the cancerous trend chasing imposed by the middle management
>>724323445>ITT Bootlickers
>>724323280The fact that it will be shut down a few months after release will probably be the biggest factor preventing that.
>>724323445>don't do as upper management says>get fired and blacklisted from the industry which is increasingly corrupt nowadayssome people kind of just have to suck it up and do as they're told since they need the money to support themselves and their familythis isn't the 1960s where you can walk out of a job and find another in the same afternoon
>>724307165>we got apex legends and tarkov but ugly at home
>>724323606Game dev retards always find jobs, what are you talking about? Their unemployment rate is much lower than just about any other industry.
>>724323306I find it enjoyable, it suits me. Except for a few balance issues and few guns being retarded, I can't find many faults with it really.Very comfy game that isn't nerve wracking but can still allow for some intense gameplay now and then.>>724323371Ok.>>724323378I stopped 10 mins ago to make some tea and eat some cookies. Exfilled successfully as two from Outputs after a lot of struggle.>>724323582We'll see. It'll provide some fun to me for a few months at least and I'm happy I got to play it.
>>724323746Not every game developer is a nepotism hire that only fails upwards if they fuck up or otherwise ad-lib. I know that things apparently only exist in absolutes but it just doesn't.
>me and my friend group when bungie goes bankrupt after concords 2 release and I will never have a reason to play destiny ever again
>>724317079>Wow, there's so much positive reception on this official game discord that's being heavily moderated by devs/publisher or their dicksuckersNo way?
>>724307165If you told me this was apex legends, I would believe it
>>724323280You are allowed to enjoy it, the same way we are allowed to call you a tasteless faggot for enjoying this worthless shit.
>>724307142Did Sony also tell them to steal art instead of paying an artist? They were to lazy to even use AI, these fuckers want some easy money and they already did it by finessing Sony into buying them, this is just their minimal atempt to keep the façade that they are a gaming company.
>>724322786I remember when the first round of layoffs happened and every single journalist, streamer, and twitter retard echoed that "Devs were begging management to make changes that would bring back players" line. Then the devs nerfed orb generation 5 times in the span of 2 months and heavily nerfed kickstart mods.The devs are incompetent. The management is greedy. It all needs to go.
I want them to do this to my dick
>>724323992Congratulations on your newly gained freedomWhat will you do with your free time?>>724324209>Failure will make you kekLol
>>724316602You do realize this doesnt make you look good right?They have been sending new invites out EVERY SINGLE DAY and all they can do is match their previous peaks. That indicates old players are dropping off day by day at a rate that is parallel to the amount of invites they send out
>>724324487>GOTYSure thing, poojeet
Looks fun.
>>724324487Is that outer worlds 2? lol nice brownoids
>>724324487Arc won bigly
>>724318408sponsored kits are ass actually youre better off using the lmg the shield bros drop ondeath
>>724324706It's not
>>724309429Bjork is in a video game?
>>724324487it will be GOTY if>PvE mode>High tier weapons look like real weapons>Free skin let you look heavy/armored
>>724319676>they're making a genuine effort to improve the gameanon for fucks sake, i want you to look at Destiny 2 and ask yourself if there are enough competent people left at Bungie who actually give a fuck.
>>724307165What Roblox server is that?
>>724307165Titanfall came out 10 years ago btw and now we're here
I had fun, the looting in this game is good, wish removing attachments from guns was allowed in raid and that taking them off didnt cost moneygonna keep playing to see if I can make it to the big chest on the hard map solo
>>724325032What if the competent people are all working on Marathon instead of D2?
>>724325225if that's where the competent people are then i'd hate to see what's happening in d2
>>724306818i'm pretty sure it was 2014/5 when we entered purgatory, or at least in my personal history that's around the time when everything went wrong and suddenly faced a deep absence that has persisted since.
>>724306729the one shill assigned to /v/ gave it his all sad
>>724325225>competent people>steal art for the nth time instead of just hiring good artist for oncelol
>>724325221>I had funLike a fly in a pile of shit>the looting in this game is goodIt isn't>wish removing attachments from guns was allowed in raid and that taking them off didnt cost moneyTrash attachment system is part of why the looting is shit, yes
>>724325503STOP-HAVING-FUN.jpg
>>724325221
>>724307087the majority of gamers and business things only see the final product as the thing of value.for gamers, it baffles me. it's like an avid moviegoer not giving a shit about directors and writers. all they care about is>remake remake bo demake, banana fana bo prequel, me my mo sequel, spinoff!
>>724324181No that was a diversity hire
>>724325932So they say, but the art director has been following that troon for over 10 years. He knew, he just didn't give a shit.
Bungie have been slowly firing all their old talent which just so happens to be their best game makers.So now it's a bunch of new hires and yes men who are simply just don't have as much practice as the people whose boots they are trying to fill on top of having no clout or sway to stop management from being retarded.The end state of the slow death bungie has been going through.
>>724325932The Art Director is >>724321518
Designs for traders are good, especially traxus and the spider thingThere is little story but its pretty interesting, nuCaloric had me surprisingly hooked, some other anon said getting on the marathon is main gameplay loop and we just havent seen it yet in beta so that is also something to look forward to tooThe looter shooter aspect of the game doesnt really impact the story, cause its only told off raid so you could have any other genre instead but this also means it being a looter shooter wont really matter to you if youre just playing for the aesthetic and story>>724325503>response is "no" with no substancemaybe youll get an invite for the next cbt so you can have an opinion too
>>724322004I kinda like the aesthetic but it would be better suited if the girl's were hotter and there was sex.
>>724326935Is it actually any fun if you don't find any thrill in ducking ganks? I'd love to play FPS Wizardry in space but the PvP sounds like total cancer
>>724306729>What went wrong?how would I know I don't play ubitroon gamesImagine testing some closed alpha of this dogshit to begin with
>>724306729Woke
>>724307172Poos are your greatest ally, jew.
I'm getting fps fatigue. They should make the girls cuter and make it 3rd person. Not enough good 3rd person shooters out there.
>>724306729>extraction shooterfundamentally doomed
>>724311258Filtered by skill issue.
>>724327250pvp is kinda all over the place, theres a double barrel shotty that kills most things in well 2 shots, theres invisibility as an item and as a skill and as a passive equip, tank guy shield takes no damage, recon has a homing fire spider that chases people down and wall hacks too, theres a gibby bubble as a consumable, self revives whatever manhonestly the balance seems to favor whoever has the loadout but if you get the drop on someone you can kill themfor me I have an edge from playing a certain shooter for 3.5k hours now, if you look at the clips in the nda channel you have folks on controller laying bodyshots and dying cause the headshot multiplier is more than 2 for sure and is the intended way to kill thingsas a pve gameu it would be more relaxing but it really sucks the liveliness out of the game>>724311258>Tarkov is also trashyou can shit on anything around tarkov and everyone involved but not the game itself
>>724313773And Arc is made by bugs that used AI to make a generic looking globohomo game.
>this is what Bungie has wasted their developers on as they let Destiny rot and die>there's an actual possibility they get fully absorbed into Sony now if this underperforms + Destiny population keeps decreasingDamn, Bungie was always Bungie's worst enemy.
Marathon should have been a single player/co-op fps
>>724318638I agree most D2 players will not like it but only because its too hard for them.
>>724323134No that's just your melted zoomer brain unable to think for itself.
>Extraction shooter by a company that's never made one>Everything done in a way to PREVENT TOXICITY>Extremely small maps and groups>Art fiasco led them to scrub the game in the most hackneyed way imaginable>Every single animation and weapon is just shit repurposed from Destiny.You see this shotgun? This is just an exotic from D2. Conditional Finality to be more precise.
>>724328979>starfield shotgun webm
>>724325378No, that's when you just began to notice, but it really did start in 2012. Mass political radicalization of teenage and college aged normies using the internet started on tumblr btw.
>>724309759Not a single person in this thread is defending the game, you are boxing with shadows.
>>724328979Elden ring got shit on relentlessly for reusing dark souls animations, boss models and dungeons but ultimately nothing came of itthe stolen assets mean nothing as the game isnt commercially available and now that they are removed nothing can be doneit sucks but it wont stop them
>>724307165Looks like utter dogshitApex Roblox but 0.5 speed
>>724329421>Elden ring got shit on relentlessly for reusing dark souls animationsBy who?? Where??Also comparing this utter dogshit to Elden Ring. LMAO
>>724327313
>>724325221You were having a blast! Congrats, good sire
>>724329421It's a stupid complaint to begin with. Just look at Rockstar, they're so autistic with details it takes them 13 years to make a sequel
>>724329581>he wasnt on /vee in the ancient and forgotten dark times of 3 years agoI dont blame you, once you turn 18 youll see what its like for us oldgens
>make an original bungie game with non of the people original to bungie>they try to change everything to "make it there own">end up just being a mess of stolen assets and a complete failure of the entire neo-vetorheart design identity (futuristic corporate art, like the Wipeout game series or euro dance clubs the art style was inspired by) and just slapped it on a generic extraction shooter>be surprised when the game looks ugly and completly fails
>>724324237jokes asidethis is unironically some Ridley Scott tier imagery
>>724328749>>724328945degenerates like you belong on a cross
>>724306729They want to cash in on the Tarkov audience, but don't realize that, that fanbase consists of Milsim and Gun autists, not necessarily extraction shooter gameplay.Marathon is fundamentally flawed. And there's nothing they can do to correct it either.
Nobody's hating it you fucking retard, the test just got extended by 2 days because people are loving it.
>>724330217Majority of people hate it anon. Your small feeble brain cannot comprehend that.
>>724330196>that fanbase consists of Milsim and Gun autistsCongrats retard you just described Marathon
>>724329987I keep saying that this game looks like if Aeon Flux was bad.
>>724330165You will never be a real woman so kys.Arc is also AI globohomo slop made by bugs.
>>724330364Arc won and lives rent free in your mind.
>>724330284Then why isn't Marathon pulling the Tarkov audience?I don't think you understood anything I said, but you responded anyway. You're a fool.
>>724330406>neither game has releasedbro wants his futures to cash out so bad
>>724328469>as a pve gameu it would be more relaxing but it really sucks the liveliness out of the gameThis is really the sticking point unfortunately, I do want tension and difficulty but im 2 casul for having a whole run go into the dumpster over one player interaction. Appreciate the details on loadouts, sounds like some genuinely fun tools, even if they aren't for me.
>>724330406Cope, AI slop made by bugs with faggorty every where in the game. And people say Marathon is bad kek.
>>724330525Yes everyone says marathon is bad.
>724330364the "AI" slop is what makes ARC more playable than this since it's used for ping callouts
I hope 2 things happen. I hope Bungie renames this project to, literally, Nu-Marathon, to distinguish it from the original games. I hope they do actually pull through and make a good/successful enough game to make a profit, or whatever needs to happen to make their higher ups happy. There's some really cool stuff they're doing. As an artfag I like what they're trying to do.
>>724330284you're pretty dim for a marketer, didn't pay much attention in school huh
>>724330309It's fundamental misunderstanding of the artstyle just to create and 'asthetic'. It's the vidya equivalent to when cities make updates to old buildings by sticking new add-ons onto it, making the building look like an abomination
>>724330552No every one playing Marathon is saying it's good. And it isn't made by bugs using AI.
>>724306818I guess I deserve it.
>>724330670I'm going to laugh at your funeral
Stop supporting dogshit
>>724330949ok, i'll stop supporting you
>>724330727>>>724330949All I'm saying is it might not be dogshit
>>724331084You might be retarded
>>724307845Graphic stealism
>>724323821>>724325221>>724326935>>724314170>>724313609noooooo, check the discord quickly - you supposed to post hate and shit all over it guysnobody will know we never played it anyway!>>724321475>>724321113>>724318408retarded niggers who know nothing about stress tests are trying to voice their thirdie opinionsleave my board, brownies>>724319984which colony is shown on the screenshot you've found on the internet, anon?>>724320759what is this delirious rambling
>>724331084Fuck off. Bungie is incompetent and I would know from my experience with taken king to end of final shape. Marathon is a game designed to fail due to incompetent game design and retarded developers.
>>724331145for what, as a 3rd party I'm as unbiased as I can be, neither arc devs nor bungie ever fucked me over, I will be buying both games to play>>724331313we will meet again in 2 weeks
>>724331405Yep you're a retard confirmed.
>>724331479Shut up retard, you're retarded, only a retard would post something like this
>>724331306astronomical levels of butthurt
>gamers have been saying for years, 'we want Marathon'>so we integrated the IP into our latest arena-based hero shooter >and gamers hated it. Absolutely hated it. Crazy levels of hate>lesson learned: never listen to gamers. Gamers don't know what they want
>>724325378I have linked every bad thing beginning around 2013/2014.
>>724331839Replace gamers with streamers and you would be right
>>724328979>Extraction shooter by a company that's never made onehow many extraction shooters have the russniggers made before Tarkov? >Everything done in a way to PREVENT TOXICITYespecially the proximity chat which I use to call your mother a dirty whore before I make you throat my boomstick>Extremely small maps and groupsoh no muh big open world go back to plebbit>Art fiasco led them to scrub the game in the most hackneyed way imaginablescrub in what way, specifics only - if you can't provide any you're a turbonigger and a jewish golem sent here to stir shit >Every single animation and weapon is just shit repurposed from Destinyagain, specific examples, nigger >You see this shotgun? This is just an exotic from D2. Conditional Finality to be more precise.your father should've been more precise yet here we arecheck your eyesight and then off yourselfpic related is the gay shotty from Density and I've seen double barrelled in Quake modes which looked more similar than that blocky thing from Marathon
>>724307649The only thing it kind of looks like are aesthetics from F1 and Moto GPI don'y think it works
I am half convinced there are actual Bungie employees here NOT putting their abortion back together but actually running defense for it!
Haters lost, people love the game.
>>724306729it's insane how like what a decade after ? the ripple of gamergate are still being felt
>>724332053/v/ is dogshit at shooters, why would Bungie come here you schizo
>>724307165thank god they added the grey veil, I felt uneasy watching the trailer with so much color
>>724331973Jeet post.
724331973yea this dude HAS to be someone from bungie
>>724306729>What went wrong?annoying colors monkey no like
>>724332185>>724332379Just a hunch
>>724306981>Now lets move on to the E3 demo (released in may 2003). MC flies into New Mombasa on a pelican with the sarge and a few ODSTs. When he exits the pelican, yes, it would appear to be a full-scale invasion of earth. Wounded soldiers all around, huge covenant artillery blasting buildings, etc... exciting! He makes his run through the city and then mans the gun on the back of the gauss hog. He rolls through New Mombasa with a couple marines, you see a few other hogs rolling around, streets intersecting in and out of one another, passages that lead to other areas... its a battle on a pretty large scale. A convenant invasion of earth.>Compare these situations to the actual game of Halo 2. Where is the "god damn apocolypse"? Earth isnt even being invaded. A few small covenant platoons go to earth for one reason or another and thats it. There isnt even a hint of earth being invaded in halo 2 until the very end, then the game ends. You can see earth from space station cairo and its untouched. When it comes to all this missing storyline, what went wrong? What changed? Who intervened?>Read any publication online or in real life dealing with halo 2 before its release. Whenever someone from bungie spoke about the game, the focus was earth. The cinematic trailer, focus: earth. The E3 demo, focus: earth. It was all supposed to be about earth. Would bungie intentionally mislead us to think that is was going to be all about earth and then smack us in the face with an awful game like this? I dont think so. You cant say that what i expected halo 2 to be was just what i had in my head. It is what we were -lead- to believe and what we were told it would be. This isnt me being disappointed because I believed too much hype -- this is me being disappointed because for one reason or another, "we" didnt the the game of halo 2 that was "promised" to us.You had to be there. Halo 2 was despised
>Jaime GriesemerI think the first conversation I had about Halo 2 was with Joe about story ideas. That was when the idea of playing as the Dervish, later called the Arbiter, first came up, to see the Covenant from another side.>Joe StatenIt was like, what if you are the guy who lost the Halo ring? What if you were the guy whose butt was on the line for protecting the most valuable religious object in the entire world, and you blew it? That seems like a pretty interesting story, and one we should tell.>Marcus LehtoWe always joked about Halo being a space opera. Halo 2 was the quintessential space opera moment of the saga. Playing the Arbiter worked fine in the end, but it was something that I didn’t like. I wasn’t excited about it, and I felt like it was going way off the rails from where we started.>Joe StatenWe didn’t want to churn out another copy of Halo. We wanted to do something unexpected and give people a view on the Halo world that they didn’t think they’d get, and make that really relevant for gameplay. On that score, I think Halo 2 succeeded pretty admirably.>Marty O’DonnellWe had a great plot twist in Halo when you discover the Flood. We kept that secret from everybody—it was a wonderful moment and a great reversal, as everything you thought you knew now was different.I told Joe that I didn’t see that in Halo 2. He replied, “It’s when you realize that you’re playing as the Arbiter.” But no, that’s not a plot twist. It just isn’t. I could never convince them it wasn’t. It wasn’t a good reversal; it was just a mechanic that was unsatisfying.>Joe StatenI must’ve worn down enough people that we should absolutely tell the story of this other guy. Not many games of the time were doing dual perspectives. But I think what sold it was access to all the Covenant weapons, being allied with Grunts instead of marines—it’s not just story, it’s the entire sandbox you get.
>>724312453After seeing what Bungie has sharted out I'm glad that my favorite anime wasn't involved.
>>724332593look at how mad he is when talking about destinyno one hates destiny more than bungie
>>724332716Halo 2 induced PTSD>Max HobermanPeople are always shocked when they think about the impact multiplayer had on the quality of what we put out, and when I tell them all the hurdles that I faced. They think multiplayer must been what the majority of the studio was working on. Right? Uh, far from it.>Marty O’DonnellThe famous Halo 2 crunch was so bad. We had to renege on so many promises. And this is such a typical Bungie story, as it happens over and over again. We just couldn’t deliver.>Marcus LehtoI think Halo 2 has the darkest memories for me, personally. We struggled the most as a studio at that time, just to figure out what we wanted to make, how we were going to come off of that success of Halo and to ante it up. But we just didn’t have the right leadership at that time.>Marcus LehtoWe were obsessed with detail and with quality overall, so whatever we were going to ship, we knew it was going to be something that played well. But we all knew what it could’ve been, had we actually had our shit together.>Joe StatenWe were driven by the strong desire to outdo ourselves, but we didn’t fully understand our limitations. And it was a hard process to admit to ourselves that we couldn’t do everything.>Paul BertoneIt was basically a death march to the end. Nobody will say anything different, and if they do they’re just trying to sugarcoat it. Just a death march.>Jaime GriesemerSome of Halo 2 was great—the Xbox Live component was something nobody had ever done, the multiplayer was excellent. And a lot of really cool tech and story stuff happened. But we had to kill ourselves to get it done.>Paul BertoneI honestly thought that nobody was going to buy it, because the stuff we had to do at the end of the project felt so gut wrenching. But luckily, nobody saw how it was before, so for them it’s like all the stuff we took out just doesn’t exist.
>>724332641>You had to be there. Halo 2 was despisedu wut m8
>>724325378>i'm pretty sure it was 2014/5 when we entered purgatory, or at least in my personal history that's around the time when everything went wrong and suddenly faced a deep absence that has persisted since.huh, yeah, sounds about right
I can't wait to see how much this worthless woketrash flops. I love dead games so much.
>>724308872She was a macfag then, nothing too wrong about that. And widgets are not the problem with Win11. It's the arbitrary hardware requirements, forced online accounts, forced telemetry, forced AI features, and crappy performance.
Not my Marathon.
>>724307649mirror's edge looked clean, not retarded
>>724306729Just going to play Arc Raiders instead, Marathon looks like complete trash. The only cool thing it can do is its end game but I'm not suffer through 99% shit content for 1% decent content.
>>724333942>Just going to play Arc Raiders instead, Marathon looks like complete trash. The only cool thing it can do is its end game but I'm not suffer through 99% shit content for 1% decent content.
this game will flop even if its F2P
>>724334165You can't even customize characters in marathon without grinding a battle pass, and they all still look like trannies with blue lips. WTF was bungie thinking ???
>pvp>loot shooter>pc>f2panother cheater game meant for cheating addicts that will only be played by cheating addicts that re-buy the game after every ban
>>724334656>f2plmao
>>724308025>NOBODY WANTS A SHITTY EXTRACTION SHOOTER.I disagree but that doesn't change that this game will be shit.
>>724334656>f2p
>yet another generic shooter>but this time its ugly and full of tranniesgee i just cant figure it out
>>724310306it's not graphics fagging when the style is what's wrongthe polycount is fine, its the color scheme and design that's shitty
>>724313609do you really think the color scheme of neon barf is fine?
>>724334979but enough about arc raiders
People who played this alpha. Can Bungle salvage Marathon and have some success , or should we expect another Concord flop?
>>724334656>he thinks it's f2p
>>724335416this alpha was way better when it comes to pacing, atmosphere and gunplay. rook runs are a good addition and outpost is a peak map that they should've used as their premier showcase. as long as there is good amount of content to do on release it'll be good
>>724329806Basically this. Rockstar is a prime example of a company that makes a system from a past game, then uses it in their future games. I call it their toolbox, and many devs do this shit all the time with their in-studio tools and assets. Consumers out there think companies have to re-invent the wheel for all their game systems/assets, from scratch everytime. Always seemed like retarded takes imho. Just unintentionally knee-capping devs and trying to make their jobs harder for no reason lol.
>>724307165This is one of the games of all time
I am having a blast!
>>724306729I wish they had actually made a game that respects and plays into its trippy, glitch-art aesthetics and atmospheric soundtrack. Instead it plays like a mudcore milsim with garish plastic boxes everywhere.
>>724314636>hated by everyone outside of dicksuckers and shills>ii-its an ANTI-SHILL nobody could possibly hate this pile of turd!
>>724335416it's closer to escape from tarkov but that's a bad way to go since people will just keep playing escape from tarkov
>>724334656>f2p>he doesn't knowanon they are very adamant about this flopping as hard as possible
>>724306729It looks kinda cool?
>>724335416This is Concord 2 but with an aesthetic sort of inspired by Cruelty Squad and that Ghost in the Shell live action movie.
>>724307649Ghost in the Shell (the first movie) is genuinely such a fucking beautiful film with a three-way mix of rundown urban sprawl, high tech cassette futurism, and some folkloric mysticism, that its name getting dragged through the mud every time some exec tries to pilfer good PR from it makes me fucking nauseous.
>>724311421I am confused, what one of those is supposed to be realistic? they both look stylized.
>>724311421yeah it looks nothing like the trailer (which is kino)they should've spent their money on making a full length movie instead of this dogshit
>>724335416if they can somehow give up on being an extraction shooter the game has potential
>>724321507Yes thank you for agreeing corporate art is ugly and unappealing im glad you concede its fucking ugly to look at. Stupid motherfucker.
Total bomb incoming. Expect the PS6 to cost $899
>>724332000Looks more like Designers Republic desu, like strikingly so, like they bought their 28 year design portfolio book.
>>724323829People don't appreciate Marathon's name being used for this. If they renamed the game right now, its chances of success would significantly improve.
Game hurts to look at when playing. I've never played a game that strained my eyes like Marathon. I like to think it does a good job at simulating the autistic sensory overload experience.
>>724337823Yeah and 80% of the people who don't appreciate it are also the ones that have never played Marathon. The only interaction they have with it, is being told how amazing it was/is though their favourite Youtuber. I like OG Marathon, but lets not pretend anyone gave a shit about it until like several years ago when out of nowhere it started to get a bunch of vids, and funnily enough during that time the /v threads started popping up as well.
>>724306729with this game's release and quick death heralding the end of new extraction shooters, what genre does the industry beat to death next? do we see AAA friendslop for the next 5 years
Massive amount of chuds filtered by marathon. This is the most fun I've had with a game in years. Every run I'm wiping 3 teams with my mates and extracting thousands in loot. Progression feels good. Artstyle is divisive, but I personally enjoy it a lot. I think this is probably one of the most approachable of the extraction shooters on the market nowadays.
>>724338243i know you're desperate for a concord 2 but it'll never happen again. it'll be another TORtanic.
>>724313609same, I probably was never going to play the game just from the genre but thought the artstyle was interesting
>>724338317based
>>724338317here's your 10 bucks, shill, now tell us your real opinion
>>724338317Hi dmg
>>724338342i don't think the servers will shutdown but it's going to be most of bungie laid off/rolled into sony proper with the game maintained by a skeleton crew in under a year.
>>724314170>tfw it looks worse than Mirror's Edge 2009.
>>724332641>Halo 2 was despisedLmao, historical revisionism is funny.
>Inspired by Ghost In The ShellLol, imagine being a faggot bungie dev and believing the garbage they stole looks better than this
>>724330284you're an idiotevery tarkov player they brought along said they'd rather play tarkov
>its just Destiny 2ARE YOU GUYS FOR REAL, ONE THOUSAND THREADS FOR THIS GENERIC SHIT
>>724332641>Halo 2 was despisedBy fucking who? It was the most popular game on Xbox Live for 3 years, until Halo 3 came out. The ending was despised because it ended on a cliffhanger, the game was universally praised.
>>724338317are you JAMMING AND BLASTING?
We are so back.
>>724338317Primo bait, however
>>724306729Extraction shooters simply have limited appeal and are hard to market. Even with the somewhat stellar map design, it's still lacking compared to Tarkov, Hunt, etc. Probably bungie's best bet is allowing them to customize your dudes ala Destiny armor system along the theme and then maybe it can get the dress up a toon audience>>724306885This too, game was rigged from the start>>724307087Pete Parson was a retard but he was one of the best Snake Oil sellers ever
>>724322948It came from a presentation Bungie was doing for other game devs at some conference, it was never intended to be seen by the common rabble. It's sort of like how the "you will own nothing and be happy" quote comes from some European economic forum aimed at fellow economists, and wasn't directed at the people who would actually be owning nothing. The mask slipped at an inopportune moment, and people were reminded what these execs really think of us.
>>724323321Bungie could have simply made smaller tier cheaper expansions but they saw the money
>>724324487You keep shilling this in these threads, as if people aren't also repulsed by third-person hobocore shit. We're here to mock extraction shooters.
>>724333942>Arc Raidersyou mean the game without a single white male character?the game which cover character is a neggress? where every single vendor is an inclusive shade of brown mystery meat and/or female?the game with BODY TYPE A/B selection, even for the fucking chicken?that game, you discord tranoid?
I should have sold my marathon key, this is terrible.
>>724307121What a shit load of fuck! I'd rather eat the diseased asshole of a roadkill skunk than subject them to this garbage.
>>724306729Halo was never good, Bungie was always overrated, shifting Halo to a singleplayer-only series starring Master Chief is good, Halo multiplayer and Bungie with their gameplay direction no longer have any legs and are products of their time from dumb late millennials/early zoomers.
>>724306729xtraction shooter aside, the level design seems like such a fuck up. you have the hyper sci fi flat plane plastic look everywhere and then you fight in a swamp? in some shitty prefab village in a forest? where are my desolate cities, where are the hyper industrial wastelands
>>724344132Scifi prefab village is such an accurate description of the designs lmaoJust complete fucking nothing slathered jn fog
>>724306729>>724307165>>724307649>>724307930>>724308624>game is a hate letter to the fans
>>724344275Finally, the Danganronpa V3 of western gaming.
>>724313170Because the game is generic on purpose, they just wanted to bank on Bungie fanbase again while also retaining the IP
This is the hardest game I've ever played in my life sincerely brosHow do I prevent getting focus fired by 3 dudes sticking to each others' butts and dying the instant I see them/they see me
>>724345373Run
>>724313609I'm in the alpha, the game is completely alright. If you liked The Cycle you'll probably like this, if you didn't this won't be the game for you. That said there is no way this game sells the amounts it would need to justify its budget.
>>724345373by doing the same with your teammates
>>724345627I'm already dead>>724345904It doesn't work when we do it
>Play game with gun I like>Die, lose gun I like>Don't use gun I like>Season ends>Lose gun I like anywayWhat's the fucking point?
>>724345871Bro this is not an alpha lmao.Deadcock is an alpha. They planned on releasing Marathon way earlier.
No one, anywhere, wanted them to "work on" the game. It's not a good game concept, the mechanics right down to their very BONES are awful, and the closed alphas BEFORE that "opened" alpha all reflected that, everything since has been a continuous downturn. The art theft, the boring fucking hero shooter mechanics of which only one character was even remotely worthwhile, the boring maps, the lack of risk or intensity in matches leaving them feeling pretty bland.
>>724346704Marathon was actually due out September 23rd, this year.
>>724306729>preset heroesWasted opportunity. Would have been much more interesting if it was fully customizable so (You), the Player are trapped in eternal wagecuck Hell for the evil megacorp.
>>724306729i like the art design of this game
>>724347190Stolen or AI sloppa?
>>724347190Now show what the game looks like
>>724315674>muh raidslike 5% of destiny players do them lmao dead content
>>724347570Raids have been useless since RoN in 2023, the percentage used to be much higher.
The art is great.
Test ends tomorrow, 8AM PST. Anyone want to run a match RIGHT NOW?
>>724342543>smaller tier cheaper expansionsThat's exactly what they've been doing. Because they have no choice.With that in mind, they had no choice but to control expectations of getting another Forsaken-sized expansion, which ever since the split from Activision has been impossible in terms of budget or talent.
>>724348582No.
>>724348582they extended it due to popularity
>>724348832proof? This is their page right now saying its tomorrow, though apparently its 2 hours more.also rip to anyone trying to access on PC, last chance to apply was yesterday
