>creates Populous>creates Syndicate>creates Theme Park>creates Dungeon Keeper>creates Black & White>creates Fable>zoomers and niggers be like "look, it's le hoax man!! haha, he liar and, uh, le bad! Some funny long haired Youtuber told me so!"
>>724309824He did absolutely lie 24/7 about the mechanics but despite never reaching the fantasy-level of quality in his advertising they still become good in the process. Cut the revisionism, fag.
>>724309824He was leaning into false advertising for years he had to go he was going to cost the industry more than money with his mouth.
>>724309824Guru Larry won
I really miss the old Bullfrog.
>>724309824Not a single one of his games included even 25% of what he promised.He also created two of the biggest hoax games of all time: Project Milo and Godus (and that fucking cube minigame that went with it)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhzb9OUWrXU
I played godus once but got bored early on, what happened later?
>>724309824I'm a millenial who is old enough to remember looking forward to Black & White as the local third world country gaming magazines extensively reported on his lies leading up to the release. He is le hoax man and a liar and le bad because I experienced it real time, not some youtuber said so, youtube didn't even exist when I already had this opinion based on empirical evidence.In conclusion, get fucked zoomer nigger.
>>724310348It never got any more updates and the guy who won curiosity never saw a cent, nor was he even given the in-game god ability promised.
>>724309824He didn't create all those things alone; he had a whole Dev team, and the games were a result of their collective effort. More than lying about game features, we should really take him over the coals for taking credit where he didn't deserve it
>>724310660>he didn't create all those things alone; he had a whole Dev team, and the games were a result of their collective effort.This applies for literally any famous game developer ever, retard.
>>724309824Never played the 2012 Syndicate does it stay faithful to the original?
>>724310660Let me tell you as someone who is confident in coding game systems, I can't market to save my life, or come up with "fun" ideas. Technically minded people need idea guys just as much as the idea guy need us. It's a marriage of convenience.
>>724311016Lmao not at all, it's a shooter instead of a strategy game
>>724310458>>724311017>>724311016>>724310767>>724310660Just fucking hear me out. Imagine Black and White 3, but there are also now sexy Heroines you pick at the start of the match. Just like your Creature, you can pet her, feed her and scratch her, and also do lewd shit with her. Your Heroine and Creature can play together which strengthens their bond but if you're not careful your Creature will start humping her.Come on, it's fucking brilliant isn't it?
>>724309824He got away with it for as long as he could wing it and get very technically minded amateurs working for pennies on his project (see: the guy who coded B&W's AI). When he ran out of people to patch up his false advertising with a game good enough to forgive his excesses, he fell off hard.
>>724311334t. Molyneux pitching his next concept to Hoyo CEO so he can ditch 22cans.
>>724309824He didn't create those games. His talented team of motivated, actual nerds created it. He was just the face of it. The moment he lost his team and tried to do things by himself he created absolutely disgusting mobile slop tier games.He also absolutely was a reckless liar. His own team said so. They dreaded him giving speeches at gaming events, because he would literally come up with new mechanics on the fly. He absolutely will always be the biggest hoax-man in the entire video game industry and nothing will ever change that.>>724310580To be fair, giving a random player "god abilities" and control over the company's direction was a retarded and cringe idea anyway.
>>724310458No, OP is 100% spot on. For all my life I heard people claiming that in RPGs "you can roleplay as anyone, go everywhere, every you do reacts and there are consequences for everything", and it's all a big fucking lie. All RPG developers say those things all the time. 99% of RPG players say those things all the time. And they're big, ludicrous lies, as everyone with IQ higher than 30 knows. So crucifying Peter Molyneux for hyping the stuff you can do in his games is just plain hypocrisy. Yes you nigger, you can't do EVERY SINGLE THING IN EXISTENCE in his games, just like you can't in Skyrim and BG3 and yet both devs and players say you CAN do everything in Skyrim and BG3.
>Populousbased>Syndicatecringe>Theme Parkbased>Dungeon Keeperbased>Black & Whitebased>Fablecringe>The Moviesbased>look, it's le hoax man!! haha, he liar and, uh, le badbased, funny and true
>>724311730>To be fair, giving a random player "god abilities" and control over the company's direction was a retarded and cringe idea anyway.And yet he promised it, even signed a contract with the guy, and then reneged on everything. Typical Molyneux bullshit.
>>724311730>He didn't create those games. His talented team of motivated, actual nerds created it. He was just the face of it.You posting that means he knows absolutely nothing about Bullfrog and Lionhead. Moleyneux was known as an extremely competent programmer and coder, and was known to versee the work of his team down to the minutae - because he actually know what they were doing.
>>724309824Man....Remember when we were going to get cute fairy butt? Then they spent like 5 years doing absolutely nothing?
>>724311730>He didn't create those games. His talented team of motivated, actual nerds created it.No, anon, this makes Peter Molyneux seem like a producer type guy. This wasn't the mid 2000s and 2010s or nowadays. Molyneux messed with the guts of these games and was a part of the explicit design process, he wasn't an ideas guy or just a marketer.
>>724310150I love Larry showing up on YT vids with like 300 views from 14 years ago...commenting 2 days ago
>>724311946All I ever heard about his coding skills is that he was top of the leaderboard in bugs introduced at Lionhead.
>>724311946Yeah, that retard exposed himself, I'm afraid.
>>724312072He literally made the prototypes for half the games he's known for. Obviously, vidya isn't made by just one man, but trying to take credit away from him as a game maker is just as retarded as trying to do that to Miyamoto or Kojima
>>724312151Were these prototypes done when games were pixelated DOS snoozefests that could be made and sold by solo amateurs in a garage?
>>724312320Zoom zoom
I'M HORNY
>>724311916IIRC the guy also didn't really give a fuck about it. I might be wrong about that though.>>724311946>>724312014How do we know? That's just hearsay. We have no idea how much of an influence he actually had. He might have just shoddily introduced an idea and let a genius intern figure it out how to actually make it work. He could adopt other people's ideas and push for their implementation, which would make him just a motivator (at best). We have no idea what actually happens in video game studios, but we are expected to just applaud that marketable face of the studio as this super genius, who turns out wasn't that, when he was left to his own devices with a team of his own choosing in a new studio he created.
>>724311334Make it kemono or furry and it will SELL
>>724312656This isn't a fucking modern Ubislop project where there are 50000 million people working on it.The guy was a project lead for a lot of good games. That's not a coincidence. Project management is important. And we absolutely do know for a fact that he made the prototypes for Populous and Dungeon Keeper, for example. You're way overcorrecting like a retard. Just because he was a scamming faggot and hasn't made a game worth a shit in decades doesn't mean he wasn't really good at this shit before.
More like sat there while other people made it
>>724310348during the early access they released a spinoff called "godus wars" which quickly stopped getting any actual development, just like it's predecessor.both games completely unavailable because "uhh... amazon web services made a change"
>>724309824>>zoomers and niggers be like "look, it's le hoax man!! haha, he liar and, uh, le bad!Maybe he shouldn't have destroyed his reptuation?He makes good games. But he needs to shut the fuck up about them. Forever. Just go in the basement and make shit. Leave the PR to others.
>>724312842I don't know what to think. We have no way to validate either of our claims. But I am pretty sure people like Kojima, Molyneux, etc are way overrepresented, when it comes to the success of their games. They are not like actors, who can make or break a movie.
>>724309824You were supposed to be able to plant an acorn in Fable and to slowly watch the tree grow because that's the level of simulation and RPG he promisedWhere's my tree planting mechanics Molyneux
>>724313191See>>724311874People exaggerate about possibilities in games all the time. Molyneux was isolated and sacrificed as being the sole culprit for this crime, which is ridiculous.
>>724313268That's why I said to stop overcorrecting like a retard. They are overrepresented and you went the complete opposite direction and even further in retardation.Obviously none of these devs made the game for themselves, and a great game is not made without having a lot of talented people working for it. It's always a perfect storm of talent and good ideas. Same is true of Warren Spector, for example. No one gives a fuck about Epic Mickey, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an important part of Deus Ex.Stop being a brainlet. They deserve credit. Just not sole credit.
>>724311874>For all my life I heard people claiming that in RPGs "you can roleplay as anyone, go everywhere, every you do reacts and there are consequences for everything", and it's all a big fucking lie. All RPG developers say those things all the time.Molyneux lied more brazenly than everyone else. He didn't exaggerate features via advertising speak, he flat out fabricated them. And as the man who was actually the visionary behind the games, rather than some faggot marketer, he was supposed to be credible.The No Man's Sky guy did the same thing and got rightfully crucified for it. He then tried to redeem himself. Molyneaux just kept fucking lying.
He still hasn't paid the person who won Curiosity.He said the prize was "better than money", but then he couldn't think of anything better than money, so he agreed to give the winner a cash prize. He never paid them the cash prize.
>>724313426>People exaggerate about possibilities in games all the time. Molyneux was isolated and sacrificed as being the sole culprit for this crime, which is ridiculous.High profile cases regularly receive more scrutiny for shit that everyone does.Molyneaux hyped up his games to an incredible degree. He chose to lie. He can deal with the damage to his reputation. Talent doesn't absolve dishonesty.
>Pretends Milo is a game that reacts to you>It's really an animation with no interactive elements at allHe's such a piece of shit
I'll never hate Peter. I grew up with his games and even with his games never living up to his hype they were fun. You're a fool if you trust him.I remember when his mobile number leaked on here, I sent him a message thanking him for his games and he replied with a thank you.
Project Milo is proof that Molyneux is ridiculous even by vidya bullshitter standardsHe recently said that the game really was gonna have all those functions but Microsoft had a price cut for the Kinect so it made those features unfeasible. Yeah, right, you fucking lying bongoloid.
>>724311874Even Todd doesn't brazenly lie about gameplay mechanics. When he says "see that mountain, you can climb it" you can actually climb this mountain. When he says "Oblivion's NPCs use a dynamic AI that can respond to the world" it's kinda there. Half backed, removed for console, and laughably bad, but Radiant AI exists. 16 times the details means the texture, it's true for a point of view.Only Molyneux will say "you can plant tree and harvest the wood to craft a new axe" and there is no tree, no wood harvesting, and no crafting in the final game. And unlike NMS it's not a introvert dev that can't contain a hype train, but a dev deliberately creating his own hype train by lying.
>>724313820What games? I loved Populous and BW1.Started to hate his work since Fable 1.
>>724313820>I sent him a message thanking him for his games and he replied with a thank you.That's sweet. He's still a lying faggot.
>>724310767I can tell this guy is a piece of shit by just looking at him
Here he is, 66 years old and STILL lying about Project Milo, 16 years laterhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/JiacHvzUQ5EThe truth is Peter Molyneux doesn't get enough shit
>>724309824Why do people hype Fable so much?, i though it was shit and all the people i knew who played it on release also didn't like it
>>724313426Molyneux has a reality distortion field, his way of speaking and mannerisms can convince people of anything, which means that the complete failure of all his games to live up to his hype hits much harder when people actually play them.
>>724313884Theme park, theme hospital, and black & white. Discovered and enjoyed Syndicate later in life.Theme Hospital in particular is etched indelibly on my memory.>>724313927I mean, true, I still remember the preview for black & white 2 where they said that it would simulate liquids filling containers so you could fill a big ten with water, and if you wanted to be evil you could stick a villager in the urn and let them drown.I'm well acquainted with his lies. I still can't hate him though.
>>724309824I've always appreciated his games and contributions. Its just that he was the original hype man liar of this industry. His lies put Todd Howard to shame. I know since I was there. Fable was hyped in such a way you would think it was going to be the greatest and most complex RPG of all time.
>>724309824He can't make great games and be a piece of shit at the same time? Are you a woman? Why are you so retarded?
>>724314572>He can't make great gamesCorrect.
