Why did it feel the weakest of the classics?
Because it was not supposed to be a main-line entry.
>>724314052>STARSss>STARsssss>etcwho the fuck though that was fun
>>724314052Zero plot relevance
>>724316058>muh plotGo read a book faggot
Its great though. For me its 2 > 3 > 1
>>724314052Because it was rushed
>>7243161501 > 2 > 3. 1 and 2 are amazing. 3 is an okay game at best.
>>724314052It didn't. It's the only one that actually feels like you're trying to survive.
>>724316135I'll accept the concession my seething fren
>>724314052it was developed as a spinoff and Code Veronica was the real RE3, but exclusivity contracts got in the way and the official RE3 was swapped.
>>724314052It was the strongest.CV and Zero are the utter shit of the bunch.>>724316464Why do you still spread this ancient meme??https://youtu.be/ZUYV_Y4PHf0?si=-dogoNWPpwhs1IaL
>>724316803I'm not watching your favorite e-celeb, tranny
>>724316803>Why do you still spread this ancient meme??because it's the truth
>>724316058It has more plot relevance than RE2 Leon's campaign and RE4.
>>724316803That's literally what happened dumbass
>>724316058This. It goes from "incident in an isolated mansion" to "incident in the city next to the mansion" to "same incident in the same city again but eh.... oh yeah, it's now happening to the RE1 protagonist!". Feels like a spin-off.
Focused more on Action instead of Horror. There's a reason 1 and 2 are more widely praised of the original trilogy.
Not really, it has great replay value.
>>724314052This is where the series became an action game with horror elements and stopped being a survival horror franchise. Particularly, it's my favorite, I never enjoyed the resource management gameplay
>>724317076RE3 has more, and harder, puzzles than 2.
>>724316803I don't understand. That video straight up says Nemesis stated as a spin off game but changed to a numbered sequel mid-development. That means it was not intended to be RE3. Even the guy trying to claim it's the "true sequel" admits it started as a spin off.It also has lots of questionable claims like "It feels right to have a trilogy and to have a trilogy on one platform" as proof as it being a real sequel. But he glosses over the most important reason as to why people consider it not a real sequel and that is that it doesn't advance anything about the franchise. It's just treading water as a quick and dirty cash-in. RE3 progressed the franchise in basically no way. Didn't advance the story. Didn't advance the characters. Didn't even really do much for the gameplay. Most of what RE3 added was tossed in later entry. RE3 is shit.
>>724316992RE4 establishing Leon became a super spy post-RE2 is already about a dozen times more relevant to the RE universe than anything Jill does in 3. Nemesis is just another Tyrant. The U.B.C.S. are never relevant again. There's no new virus nor new mad scientist nor new discovery that leads the franchise forward.
put some respect on his name
>>724314052>WeakestIt was the single best and demanding of the games.>>724314320People who enjoyed a challenge. That and the fact that you get nice shit when you beat him every time.
>>724317363>It feels right to have a trilogy and to have a trilogy on one platformWell shit guess the first three MGS don't form a trilogy
>>724317076RE2 was the game that focused more on action. This was the point of contention that caused a rift between Mikami and Kamiya. Kamiya wanted a much more action heavy game and spent a lot of time optimizing the engine and downgraded the character models just so he could put more enemies on the screen so there would be more action.
>>724314052Asset flip with gimmick boss, also the game becomes too hard rapidly in the second part
Reminder Jill does fuck all for 4 days in her apartment while the outbreak is going out outside
>>724317470>"he thought RE2 was too easy and lacking in horror. He designed RE3 to address these concerns"Sure doesn't feel like it, especially the latter
>>724314052Because it was. It's fun, but it's a gaiden that got turned into mainline because of contracts.
>>724317450>RE4 establishing Leon became a super spy post-RE2 is already about a dozen times more relevant to the RE universe than anything Jill does in 3Leon being a super spy has no plot relevance in the overarching story. The only story relevance thing he contributed was his report on Las Plagas. Every Leon story is a side story. RE3 has the destructive of Raccoon City and Jill getting infected with both events playing huge part for the series going forward.
>>724317976RE2 was way too easy and wasnt scary at all. The Nemesis alone makes RE3 the scarier game.
>>724314052It didn't. RE2 had a lonely, creepy ambiance to the environment that you could take your time with because everyone is dead. The marshaling yard really drove that home as you're looking at those tall buildings in the background, listening to that music, and realizing that you and Ada/Sherry might be the only two people left alive in the whole city. RE3 was a constant adrenaline rush of action and terror. Holy shit this tyrant can run? Holy shit this tyrant can chase me through rooms?!? Holy shit this tyrant can SHOOT AT ME?!? Then add all the extra monsters, characters, timed decisions, branching paths in the story, and so on. The only flaw in this game was that it was too short.
>>724318160You BTFO Nemesis constantly, half his encounters end with a *cutscene* taking care of his ass like the kitchen restaurant or the clocktower cable. Mr. X in B Routes was far scarier given how unexpected he was, and not the subtitle of the freaking game.
>>724318065>RE3 has the destructive of Raccoon City and Jill getting infected with both events playing huge part for the series going forward.Jill is so fucking irrelevant to RE she dies off screen and then when she gets brought back to life she contributes nothing.No one cares about Jill Valentine. She's not a prominent character to the franchise. She's barely ever in it. She's about as important as Rebecca. The main characters of RE are Chris and Leon. Everyone else is a side character. Ada is probably the most important of the side characters.
>>724318372Nice bait.
>>724318065>Leon being a super spy has no plot relevance in the overarching story.It's the reason he's the way he is and appears as much as he does in the entire rest of the franchise for the next 20 years. It's as relevant to him as Chris forming the BSAA is.>RE3 has the destructive of Raccoon CityHello saar
Felt like the best to me.
>>724317653clocktower fight is the only hard one & you can 1 cycle him with freeze rounds>>724318321beat nemesis in the 1st encounter with a pistol without bugs & write that again faggot
>>724318213>it didn't>describes why 2 is better than 3???
>>724318604>beat nemesis in the 1st encounter with a pistolYes? It's not rocket science, just use the knife to deal with most zombies before that encounter. The game gives you the shotgun three minutes into the game. What, you didn't get the Eagle 6.0? Sounds like a (You) issue
>>724316958It never was.CV was literally the outsourced spinoff, where as RE3 was being made in-house by the OG team.
>>724318437You know I'm right. Chris and Leon are the two characters that consistently turn up in mainline RE over and over again playing prominent roles. And where you find Leon you always find Ada. The rest of them are relegated to cameos and spin-off games now. None of them matter. Eat it, tranny. Nobody cares about the females in RE.
Carlos is even more vanilla and forgettable than Billy Cohen
>>724314052Because it is. It doesn't have an original bone in his body.
>>724318685They have different flavors. One's not better than the other.
>>724318836>CV was literally the outsourced spinoff, where as RE3 was being made in-house by the OG team.CV was made by an in-house development team too. They just outsourced some of the asset creation
RE = REmake > RE2 > RE0 > RE3 > CVI'm right
>>724319063>0 or CV anywhere in a listNo thanks. I can't even bring myself to replay CV despite it having best girl Claire.
>>724319063>Zero above any of the PS1 gamesNo. Fuck off.
>"Producer Shinji Mikami was against numbering the game considering 'BIOHAZARD 1.9' as a more appropiate title, but as Okamoto pointed out, the game would sell better if named 'BIOHAZARD 3'. He reluctantly accepted the change after a three day long discussion, expresing later on his displeasure about the final title as not wanting to call the game as such">"[Code Veronica] deserved more to be a numbered [title]", "[RE3's] quality was a bit on the lower end"Mikami bros, we cannot stop winning
>>724318321>Mr. X in B Routes was far scarier given how unexpected he wasHe shows up 2 minutes into B route, is very slow and can be easily down by the handgun.
>>724318837>at least five games where she's the MC>consistently turns up in the mainline RE universe over and over in prominent roles>turns up in books, movies, etc.>has her own (shitty) remake>irrelevant to RE>No one cares about Jill Valentine, tranny!Projection is one hell of a drug.
>>724319269>He shows up 2 minutes into B routeYou haven't played the game
>>724318321>half his encounters end with a *cutscene* taking care of his assYeah wonder why they did that. Like the clocktower one, you either electrocute him or you throw him off the balcony. Either way he comes across like a clown that's constantly beaten by a girl with a pistol.
>>724318531>It's as relevant to him as Chris forming the BSAA is. LO Fucking LFirst, Jill is a founding member too. Second, if you want to talk about relevance, Chris is the only character that actually matters in the grand scheme of things. >RE1- Chris is consider canon>RE2 - Claire story leads to CV while Leon is the side story>RE3 - side story>CV - Redfield Story>RE4 - side story>RE5 - Chris Story >RE6 - Jake story with Chris being the secondary, Leon is the side story>RE7 - Ethan Story, with Chris wrapping it up>RE8 - Ethan Story, with Chris wrapping it upYour story only matters if you're a Redfield.
>>724319294>>at least five games where she's the MCJill appears in only four original entries in the franchise with a prominent role. Excluding a roundly disliked remake the last time she was in RE was over 10 years ago.
RE3 always felt more amateurishly translated. Like I swear every second note in that game has some grammatical mistake.
>>724317009As opposed to>Incident happening to random flatfoot first day on the jobNah, RE2 would be the spinoff if it wasn't for Claire.
>>724319787>Jill is a founding member tooAnd nobody remembers because while Chris got RE5, RE6, RE7 and RE8 Jill got... Revelations 1>Your story only matters if you're a RedfieldI always knew Claire was best girl
>>724319848That's wrong, but I really don't care. Either post more Jill/Nemesis or fuck off and go debate someone on /pol/. I'm not in the mood.
>>724319858Claire would have died at the start of RE2 if not for Leon. He's the hero of the game. Claire is just the jaded wanna be love interest who goes off to be Greta Thunberg and disappears from the franchise.
>>724314052it's actually one of the best if you are the type to replay the games because it basically has a built in randomizer + mercenaries
>>724320029>Key appearances in the Resident Evil series>As a main protagonist:>Resident Evil (1996)>Resident Evil 3: Nemesis (1999)>Resident Evil (remake) (2002)>Resident Evil 3 (remake) (2020)old hag that vanished for 20 years and only re-appeared because of a remake that everyone hateslol
>>724319858>As opposed to incident happening to random flatfoot first day on the jobNo, as opposed to the plot evolving from "random forest mansion where STARS find a lab underneath controlled by Umbrella" to " *the* major city controlled by Umbrella where you get to visit STARS' home office and see the aftermath of RE1 with Chris leaving for Europe, the Chief sabotaging the RPD at Umbrella's orders, the G-Virus being compared as a stronger mutagen than T, the events of the first game being referenced repeteadly across notes, Ada tying directly with RE1's John (where her name was a password), adding tons of world building to Umbrella as a company with both the second half's laboratory as well as Birkin and HUNK's unit", so on and so forth. Besides, what's with the "if it wasn't for Claire" bit? RE3 is Jill's game, there's no other protagonist, Carlos is Ada/Sherry-tier in how he's played for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, RE2 is very much a dual protagonists game same as RE1 or RE0. So yeah, Claire counts. So much so in fact, that the plot flows better going with Claire A Leon B. There's no 'gotcha', just further reinforcement of why RE2 feels like a strong mechanical and narrative sequel and RE3 feels like a spin-off.
I've always liked RE3 the best. Best gameplay, best pacing, and best setting. Actually going through the streets of Raccoon City will always be a delight especially because it looks like such a weird version of an American city. As well, the whole Umbrella Mercenary plot line was always super cool to me. Only complaint I'd really have is that it has less story content than 2 and it needed one or two more bosses besides Nemesis and Grave Digger to break it up3 > 1 > 2
>>724320071>Claire would have died at the start of RE2 if not for Leon. He's the hero of the game Come on now>>724320331You keep screeching and saying the same thing and I ain't reading all that.>MUH PROGRESSION REEE IT MUST GO TO A NEW LOCATION EACH TIME REEE WE HAD THIS STORY ALREADY REEEE I NEED NEW CONTENT AND MY ADHREEEEE NEEDS NEW THINGS Fucking grow up.
>>724321932>I ain't reading all thatThat's alright, I'll accept the concession
>>724319969Claire fingerbanging Sherry
>>724316135MAYBE I FUCKING WILL HOW ABOUT THEM APPLES??
>>724322529>I've been ah... taking care of you while you were unconscious
>>724316992It does NOT have more relevance than RE2. RE2 explains how umbrella ran an underground facility beneathe the police station that originally leaked the T-virus. Also the creation of the G virus, explains where chris redfield was (which leads into CV) and the indtroduction to umbrella mercenaries unit.the more i think about it the more I think holy fuck really? 2 sets up the rest of the series.
>>724314052This was my favorite of the OGs.
>>724314052Felt like a rehash of 2smaller campaign then 2(only 1 scenario) came out towards the end of the ps1 life cycleStatic camera angles novelty was already wearing offStory isn't interesting outside of Nemesis and the nuke
>>724322520https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12876385
>>724318321What a fucking CHUMP
>>724314052It's short and fast paced going all out on action, it feels like a spinoff even without knowing the story behind its development
>>724316058It confirmed that the Raccoon City outbreak had to be contained by a missile strike, which is an event that Umbrella never truly recovered from.
>>724317450Right and you're forgetting the Japanese retards and their obnoxious chunni writing also turned Jill into a fucking super soldier, into Tekken's Nina, fucking Samus Aran copycat with superhuman strength from the T-virus.Honestly it was RE4 that turned the whole series into utter garbage. RE1-RE3 were campy and cheesy sure, reminiscent to Sam Raimi's B-movie filming style, just like the cheesy NA RE1 intro FMV. But starting with RE4 it went obnoxiously cringe and typical self-indulgent style over substance weebshit writing up until the 6th.RE7 was phenomenal, the series took a turn and it's suddenly grounded and realistic. You can tell games like Outlast did something to the series. RE8 was phenomenal too. Not only they managed to connect it to RE7, and bridge the Sci-Fi zombie/virus theme with High-Fantasy, fantastical beasts, creatures and ancient myths, they also managed to retcon the series into having an ancient lineage, Umbrella cabal group that existed since the ancient times, and made a gnostic metaphysical connection that the Megamycete being the Source or Pool of Consciousness, AND managed to make the whole journey a spiritual walk of sort, regarding the twist at the end. You can tell, that the team was HEAVILY influenced by Fromsoft with RE8, with the sudden focus on the importance or good lore. Like in that lab with the journals, explicitly elaborating how each of their appearance or abilites are the results of some mutations that turned them into lycans, vampires etc. I loved that part so much, scientific reasoning to their abilities, instead of just hurr durr muh Fantasy! RE8 took so much cues from Bloodborne.....and then of course they destroyed all that with the fucking DLC. It's back to typical self-indulgent Japanese chuuni writing again.
>>724314052Because youre retarded, its objectively the best of the og trilogy and its not close.
>>724316913>lalala I cant hear youKys
>three back to back seething posts with only one minute between themBe more subtle
>>724317653Gitgudfgt.jpg
>>724318685So youre just admitting to being garbage at playing games with any sort of pressure. Good to know queer bait.
>he's still doing it
>>724318868Just because you suck twink cocks doesnt make Billy an interesting character.
>>724319462You can do knife runs in any game, kys.
>>724316058So then why is RE4 so loved?
>>724325372kek someone did just enter the thread for the first time and got fucking mad, didn't he
>724325150>724325258>724325403>724325568>724325720>724325852>724325864TLDR
>>724316150For me it's 1 > 3 > 2. They were all pretty good though, each was worth playing.
>>724325864It's not loved as a sequel to 2. It was a reboot of the series with completely different gameplay and story and just so happened to hit it out of the park. If RE4 was called The Castle Caper starring Dan Danger it would still be as beloved today.
>>724314052because you have awful low taste
>>724325630>oh no someone is responding to postslol
>>724317076>3 mostly forgotten due to action and barebones plot>gets remade>the remake is mostly forgotten due to action, cut content and a bitchy Jill
>>724325864Because that's their Skyrim. Babby's first TES.RE4 is their first RE, their entry into the series when the GC/PS2 came out.
>>724314052Had an easy mode that started you with an M16
>>724317178How? 2 had Leon A/B, Claire A/B, Tofu, 4th Survivor and Extreme Battle
>>724326226I'm mad because RE3 was my first game when I was 8 and I rage when someone tells me it's on the weaker side
>>724326498RE2 was babby's first RE. It was much more popular on release than 4.
>>724314052Because it is the weakest. Unless you're familiar with weaknesses, every boss is a slog to fight. Every Nemesis encounter is a slog, especially if you choose to fight him. The number of enemies on screen doesn't work well with tank control combat, so they jacked up the amount of ammo and healing to compensate. The heavy RNG that can change when loading your save file can be a blessing or a hindrance. It's not a good Resident Evil game and I really don't know why people like it so much. The only good thing is that it's mercifully short
>>724314052Because you can tell while playing it that they ran out of ideas on how to add meaningful innovations to the formula of the first two games. So the additions are random stuff like the gunpowder system or being able to dodge attacks. Reminds me of the Ezio sequels, how by the end they were adding bomb crafting and stuff because they didn't know what else to do. Plot is even worse than that.
>>724326497>cut contentIt's really impressive that they cut shit out of an already short game
>>724326754Non anon you're replying to but random enemy and weapon spawn, different cutscene if you got to different locations first/make different coices in the cutscenes . 3 different ending and 8 epilogues with 8 unlockable costumes. I prefer the 4 scenarios because the new content is consistent. I've replayed 3 and accidentally made the same choices not remembering what i did before.
>>724326785It doesn't matter. It's the O.G trio. They came out within 3 years apart, on the same system. You start with any game, it's gonna make you want to play from the beginning to the end anyway to get the full story.
>>724318213>RE3 was a constant adrenaline rush of action and terror. Holy shit this tyrant can run? Holy shit this tyrant can chase me through rooms?!? Holy shit this tyrant can SHOOT AT ME?!? Then add all the extra monsters, characters, timed decisions, branching paths in the story, and so onNo. It goes like this>Oh shit, he can run>Oh shit, he can follow me through rooms>He can shoot?>Oh, he's back>Again!?>Leave me the fuck alone>This is getting fucking oldThis isn't unique to Nemesis. Every horror game with a stalker is exactly the same. It's spooky at the beginning and instantly becomes annoying
>>724318372>The developers don't care about Jill Valentineftfy
>>724314052>Why did it feel the weakest of the classicsIt's the only RE game to me that actually had me scared solely because Nemesis kept coming after me and forced hard mode
>>724319063>0 that highBold choice. For me it's RE1 = REmake > 2 > cv > 0 > 3
>>724327746>Every horror game with a stalker is exactly the sameBack then?
>>724326785>RE2 was babby's first REHahahahahahThe second game in the series that release 2 years after the original 1998 is Baby's first RE game.hahahhahahahhaZelda II released in 1987 is Baby's first Zelda game. hahahahhahaahhahaAll the +40 year babies in the house
>>724314052wtf u talking about? Its 2nd best if not the best
>>724327942In general. It's a one trick pony. The original RE2 is the only one that does it well because it's scripted and doesn't hinder exploration, which is what I think survival horror is at it's core
>>724328015Seriously. RE4 is obviously babby's first RE. It's a very well made action game that has been ported to everything but the original Xbox. it was Skyrim before Skyrim
>>724316058RE3's epilogues established the entire franchise's direction and setup all the plot hooks for RE4, CV, RE5, RE6, and revelations
>>724328510>CV Not really we already knew Claire was looking for Chris and that Chris probably skipped town to spy on Umbrella.>RE4Leon got a job working for the government.(not much set up)>RE6You mean Sherry's backstory in the lab.(Agreed, the biggest mystery in RE for a decade)RE5??? The only set up for 5 needed is RE1 Chris' scenario and CVX Am I missing something?
>>7243140521 > 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2i never played 2
>>724329413Epilogue 1:Establishes Jill and Chris will reunite (RE5)Epilogue 2: More CV stuffEpilogue 3: Establishes Barry will return (can take this as his appearance in 3's ending or also leaving the door open for other games like Revelations 2)Epilogue 4: RE4Epilogue 5: CV stuffEpilogue 6: RE6 stuffEpilogue 7: RE4 stuff and just general Ada stuff
>>724327746>le spooki chasey hunteyName five games in the 90s. I'll wait.
>>724323917>aged upMeh still hot though
>>724317768What are you talking about she has zombie dreams and does drugs
>>724328015That's what I'm saying. If you go to the game store and you saw for the first time a Resident Evil TWO, and never played it, wouldn't you fucking find the FIRST one to play first? Newly released games are often prioritized on special display, but a best hits, best seller, the prequels etc are usually just next to the new ones. It's for the same fucking system. It's not like the first game was completely unknown. RE1 was also massively popular and a must have best seller back then.
>>724330258Rule 34 doesn't allow loli, gotta go to s*nkaku or others for that
jill valentine walking around raccoon city late at night, sucking off every zombie in sight
>>724330850>s*nkakuThat site's unusable these days. Everything takes forever to load.
>>724327746>This isn't unique to Nemesis. Every horror game with a stalker is exactly the same. It's spooky at the beginning and instantly becomes annoyingMr. X in RE2make was done well because he wouldn't be glued to you.