wtf is going on in nu-wow?
garrosh isn’t even the worst recent warchief
>>724317109Were the gay dragons not popular or something?
>>724317305some seething writer still assmad they can't write a better character than Garrosh is hilarious
How the fuck is Gamon alive
>>724317414Blizzard loves their epic meme characters
>the horde is honorable>desecrate gravesI know you'd rather just dig him up and throw him in the twisting nether but then you couldn't spit on him anymorealso I'm pretty sure I've killed gamon
>>724317109>wtf is going on in nu-wow?how can you still be asking the same question for 15 years
>>724317109They sniffed their own farts and think they're great.Blizzard was NEVER known for excellent writing. They were known for taking a sort of generic story, but putting great gameplay on top of it, and would run on a lot of potatoes at the time.Modern WoW is handled by former WoW fans, and it's too full of itself in admiring its own "greatness".
>>724317480>also I'm pretty sure I've killed gamoneveryone has killed Gamon, he's the le meme guy from the old rogue pickpocketing quest in org.
>>724317305We try not to remember Vol'jin.
>>724317331It's a shame the expansion was this half-assed and pozzed, because the Dragon Isles are actually mentioned as early as Warcraft 1's manual.They're less of an asspull than literally every single continent outside of Azeroth itself.
I recommend not playing world of warcraft anymore
>>724317391Honestly surprised Blizzard let one of the writers get away with having Garrosh go "I'D FUCKING DO IT AGAIN" before banishing himself from the story out of sheer rage
>>724317553didn’t gamon save org from demons or something
>>724317391I still find it hilarious that pic related happened in Shadowlands in what must have been whoever wrote Garrosh stealing the reins for a minute to not let his character be tarnished by whatever the fuck the new writing team is
I have absolutely no fucking idea what happens in WoW in the expansions.The only thing I know of and play is WoW Classic.
>>724317635they were trying to paint him as a bad guy, but they were so incompetent they just made him look like the smartest character in the entire canon for getting the fuck outta there.
>>724317512Their worldbuilding was cool too. Gameplay alone wouldn't have gotten them as far as it did
BRAVO BLIZZARD
>>724317109Is there really no better way to desecrate him?
>>724317480Garrosh was a evil like nazis and confederate generals, his memorials need to be torn down in the name of the right side of history.
>>724317693Gaben plays his son's healer in FF14
>>724317109>Garrosh gets his soul obliterated and his grave shat on>Sylvanas gets sentenced to community servicehuh?
>>724317109wow is nortubel tier now
>>724317635they're pissed off that people found it badass and a good character send-off.it was for real the only good thing to come out of that pile of shit of an expansion
Didn't Garrosh literally save the entire Orc race from becoming enslaved by demons?
>>724317785They could dig him up and eat his body. Wouldn't put it past these retards.
>Gamon wants you to oee in Garosh
HOW DARE YOU BE LOYAL TO YOUR RACE/PEOPLE/KIND AND CHAMPION/SEEK THE BETTERMENT OF THEM!LE NAZI CHUUUUUUUUUUUUUD!
>>724317852Don't forget about Arthas, whose abused spirit literally gets dusted while Sylvanas shits on him one last time.
>>724317109Why are they using GAMON for that?
Let me know when Taurens look like this and I'll resub
>>724318063That wasn't Arthas
>>724317109>We must be better cowsOh, there are many ways to make you better. Medium rare with a red wine sauce
Garrosh deleted himself from WoW- both to escape the shitty writing, and so he could kick Sylvanas' ass in the last place free of ActiBlizzard's reach until true server shutdown.
>>724318084nobody likes any new character made in the last decade
>>724318087furry coded
>>724317109>a fuckin tauren asks you to desecrate the grave of a warchiefGod I'm glad I stepped away from this shit
>>724318236Isn't all of Wow these days?
>>724317109This cant be real. What the fuck.
>>724318263its funny because they have an annual festival honoring Garrosh's dad's grave, and that guy was 100x worse.
hey hey hey, modern wow is fucking gay
>>724317305they are bringing sylvanas back as a character who had a redemption i believe, soul back that was stolen by arthas and stuff
>>724318427ZASED
>>724318236>codedCoded implies that it was hidden, obfuscated by different letters/words/meanings to which the solution is held only by the ones that have the decryption model.That's just a furry.
>>724317852Sylvanas is a gigantic mary-sue that lives in her bubble. The plot bends backwards to protect her, when she should have been killed aeons ago .I have always hated this piece of shit character. Glad I stopped playing the bed after WoD
>>724318294It was over by the time Vulpera made it into the game
>>724318294This is why retail WoW has to be purged, they should fire all their tranny devs and start over from Vanilla.
>>724317305Garrosh almost got Gamon executed in SoO, Sylvanas did not.
>>724318384>My old boner's great!
>>724318427Leftoids are mentally retarded, evil and devoid of higher thinking capabilities.
>>724318427>"I wonder if Kirsty's still available">Look them up>Female NPCBut of course nu-WoW
>20 years >The exodar is still not repaired Nu wow is stupid
>>724318565>This is why retail WoW has to be purgedHow can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way!
>>724317480The horde has never been honorable.
>>724318682good, if they revamped the draenei starter zones they'd only make them worse
>>724317109>GamonWasn't that literally the first level 5 or something elite that Horde players kill in a quest? Why is he not only alive but giving out quests?
Do you still raid with a team?
>>724317852arthas was supposed to become the new arbiter for his service and sacrifice in life, he is the only one who actually saved souls from the maw by purging the citizen of stratholm before turning, he is also one of the only character (beside the maw walker) to have been send to the maw without judgement (uther threw him before sending his get judged), i know that every soul was judged to be send into the maw, but arthas was never judged and i feel that was an important piece to the lore of shadowlands, arthas was supposed to be have a redemption and that redemption would have been to save to live every life of every soul that come through him, but no, the writer wanted the transgender to become the arbiter (yet i never saw him outside of him failing a bunch of jump in the order quest), arthas turning into a wisp after all that is so anticlimatic and looks more like a blue-haired lady moment i know most wont agree, but uther throwing a soul into the maw before judgement should have more impact to the lore and it was supposed to the wow writers really hate the fact that older character are more popular than their new self-insert characters
Can you still MC Gamon? And does he still have spirit breaker or whatever ability?
#notmyhordehttps://youtu.be/0n1sEm9UnYI?si=JKICaWxORj7_rkcq
here is your Horde bro
>Play dogshit game>Wow look at how dogshit it is
>>724317683Garrosh went gigabased and yeeted himself from the shitty franchise https://youtu.be/0Nb3q1oROOg?si=sNG6pl_vJA___Utr
>>724318847Reminder, from better timeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_Lv0r-l4c
I thought Alt-Draenor was being purged by Yrel. How are people able to go to his grave?
>>724318263I mean Garrosh did kill Cairne.
>>724317109>hey man, yeah, remember that alternative universe that we canonically cannot travel to anymore?>yeah, go there and bring me some that corpse so i can spit on it hereGreat writing. Outsanding.
>>724319006Wasn't mean to happen the way it did, all thanks to the Grimtotem
>>724318087Both look fucking ass
>>724319006tauren in wow exist to humiliated, baine is the biggest cuck in warcraft
>>724319010Damn, look at these spelling mistakes, it seems i am SEETHING over wow quest.
>>724319006But it was that other tauren's fault.
>Story looks like shit>Classes dumbed-down so badly the gameplay is shit>Add-on purge means the UI will be shit>"But look guys we added player housing!"It's literally WoD 2.0
>>724317391the reason is they want female characters but everyone know female characters could never be taken serious
>>724319150>Li-Li
Funny how the only good things left from Blizzard is all of the WoW & Overwatch porn yet that is not even created by them.It's honestly insane how no game manages to replace WoW, people are literally forced to pay monthly just to eat literal shit because there is no valid replacement.
>>724318193based
Pic rel is the true heritage of WoW
>>724319006>duel to death>wtf he killed him
I like how the new Amani leaders in Midnight are Zul'jin's rando grandchildren, one boy and one girl. I wonder which one will betray us and have to be killed while the other is hyper-competent and assumes full control of the tribe?
>>724319334Alori & Pyrista clear.
>>724319150>Classes dumbed-down so badly the gameplay is shitQRD? How bad it is? FF14 level of bad?
>>724318436did the warcraft 1 manual mention this
>>724319334I can't find the threads anymore, there's only AI shit.
>>724319220private servers are better and free
>>724319210
>>724319404i have cunt fatigue
The Horde isn't the only ones whose main leader got fucked. Anduin's been raped through and through by the degenerate trash at Blizzard.Also, I miss this guy. Remember in Cataclysm after Deathwing attacked Stormwind, the first thing he did was build statues of himself. Good times.
>>724319464they're more like classic
>>724317109Garrosh was literally trump/Hitler!I hate onions cucks
>>724319464Worse, every Healer except Shaman had their kick removed, and Holy Paladins lost Crusader Strike
>>724319404the new amani trolls look like fucking ass
>>724319575
>>72431958570% of them is useless?
>>724319575>after Deathwing attacked Stormwind, the first thing he did was build statues of himselfBASED
>>724319509Depends, I've got ~6k hours on Warmane and I cannot recommend it over Classic/Retail, it's filled with Pedophiles and Bulgarians, people follow guides for Classic which make zero sense on 3.3.5a, people still have no clue how to clear LOD and Arenas are filled with scripters past 2k rate.Ascension is fun for like 10 hours and that's it.Can't speak for TurtleWoW as I never tried it.>>724319487Just use Noname's official site where he dumps everything.
>wow thread>no mention of big dreanei futa horse schlongsI'm impressed
>>724319617>and Holy Paladins lost Crusader StrikeFuck. Glad I stopped playing after Legion. Holy paladins were amazing to play there, especially in world PVP quests with the talent that caused Crusader Strike's cooldown to be reduced to one second and heal the user for 200% of its damage dealt or something similar.
>>724318643>>724318427>Stupid woman is ungrateful and instantly stabs her husband in the backCan leftoids ever stop self-owning?
>>724319210>they finally updated her model>to a generic oneI seriously hope this is just an outfit and not the actual character because this would just be sad that they replaced a unique model with a generic model.
>>724319674>one spender>2-3 cooldowns>majority of damage is white
>>724318682They salvaged the guts and made a new ship in Legion. There was no chance of putting the whole thing back together when mansion-sized pieces had been scattered over the whole island during the crash.
>>724318427What is it with this romantically frustrated losers thinking that the best place to write about their mundane shit is in male-targeted fantasy games? Who the fuck hires this talentless hacks?
>>724318427>hate husband>husband die>im gay nowBravo..
>>724319905NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>724319905Thats an edit, this is the real one
>>724318384Based WC3 chad
>>724317635That cutscene was definitely supposed to cement Garrosh as an irredeemable maniac, but contrasted against all the other shit writing and character assassinations it just made him come across as the only character left in this god forsaken game that still had any resolve and passion.
>>724318695Damn it, Blizzard. for your future expansions, I order you to purge this dev team!
>>724317109Canonically you have been cut off from that version of Draenor
>>724319575Hilarious
>>724319983Oh fuck its worse than I thought, the other one at least looked like she was still small lol
>>724318427
>spit on Garrosh’s grave you heckin chuddynahI’d drop a fat turd on Vol’jin’s though
>>724319637I SPIT ON DA HORDE!
>>724319006>the one dude whose most significant ability was reincarnation>lol he died offscreen in an accidentyeah, sure Blizz, whatever you say.
>>724317874No that was his dad, after he already enslaved them once before.
>>724319104yeah, but she's sorry now, so Shaman players pal around with her.
>>724319637So how do the female trolls look like then?
>>724320110VENGEANCE FOR ZUL'JIN
>>724319661>>724319575>night elf district gets utterly obliterated>refuses to rebuild it for like a decade until he dies and decides to turn it into a monument to himself
>>724320231i don't remember this quest
>>724317109The lore spergs are going batshit on twitter over every character being retconned in Midnight.
>play season of discovery as holy paladin>Runes and specific talents means I can actually DPS, and decently too.>Claim Hillsbrad as my own because it's name and my characters name are rhyming.>Horse players get the boot and roflstomped by a 2handing seal twisting holy shockadin.>On average they need a 3:1 to kill me.It was great.
>>724320190nu-amani got female orc model (with tusks)the old ones from zul'aman used the female troll model
>>724320110The voice acting in the ZA trailer is so good. The "I hate you all." line is delivered perfectly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
>>724320304Even the trannies Portergauge and Baal are upset over Garrosh and the destruction of Turalyon.
Somebody post the ad where dragons respond to mean Twitter comments
The "writers" at Blizzard deserve to be crucified for their endless stream of vile rubbish.
>>724318427Am I missing something? Herbology seems to be her interest which she's currently doing now and apparently the husband wasn't interested init so she wasn't doing it on his behalf. What was he stopping her from doing exactly?
>>724320346literal SOVL
>>724320356>destruction of Turalyonwhat?
>>724320019they try to assassinate garrosh’s character for being about as ethnocentric as every other race and it makes all the other horde leaders look like retarded traitors
>>724320586See >>724320462 for a preview
Only 2 people in this thread realizing the issue>>724318980>>724320050Gamon is asking you to go somewhere that canonically you should not be able to get to anymore.
>>724320487>knows exactly what the man's dreams and hobbies are>still chooses to marry the man>proceeds to get incredibly upset over the man's dreams and hobbiestypical woman really
How did furries manage to take over WoW designs?Where did Blizzard hire from?
>>724320462>>724320610Ah okay, gotta villainize the light users in the expac where the void comes to fuck everyone in the ass.
>>724320580The soulful days when Blizzard trailers used in-game soundtracks instead of royalty free stock music.
>>724320683The dumpster since blizzard pays pennies on the dollar.
>garrosh... BAD BAD BAD have we reminded you how bad he is because he called sylvanas a bitch once?>meanwhile sylvanas gets brought back every other expansion and continues her cunt shit unpunishedwhy the double standards?
Wasnt Alternate Dreanor over run by zealots of the Army of the light and the way to it perma closed?
>>724317109some trannoid faggot fantasythey love to vandalize everything in WoW they're subhuman
>>724320704Lor'themar is a based chud (demands the player to exterminate the amani) as well and Arator likes to scold him and Turalyon to be better men.>>724320740Yes
It was a pretty big suspension of disbelief that the Horde wasn't totally on board with all the bullshit Sylvanas got up to. The game would have been better from the beginning if they had just committed to the Horde being the evil faction. The orcs would have been building fuckign statues of Sylvanas after she burned down Teldrassil.
>>724318150Yes that was his soul lmao
>>724320346holy fucking sovlkino
>Try to do quest>Blizzard removed /spit>Failsbros....
>>724320783I just don't understand the mentality of people who play orcs, trolls and undead and want to be the good guys.Tauren are a bit more understandable, but the rest? Fucking hell.
>>724320783>if they had just committed to the Horde being the evil faction>The orcs would have been building fuckign statues of Sylvanas after she burned down Teldrassil.how is that evil again? Teldrassil was literally a symbol of the elves rampant disregard for the safety of the world that led to the emerald dream getting corrupted. pruning that fucking tree was a heroic act.
>>724320721sylvanas burned teldrassil and sent billions of innocent souls to hell, but garrosh was racist, racism affects jews more than dead goyim so racism is the worst thing anyone can possibly do
>>724320901you had to have played War3 to get it. literally only undead players wanted to be "evil".
>>724320919>genocide is a heroic actI can see your nose from here.
>"GARROSH could be here", he thought. "I've never been to this planet before, there could be GARROSH anywhere."
>>724318682>Exxodar contained a detachment of Draenei that fled the Burning Legion >in that time the Legion has been defeated, Argus has been liberated, Sargantas has been dealt with, non-evil Eredar reinforcements are coming over to Azeroth to back up the Draenei>these retards still can't fix the shipBravo
>>724320932Man they assassinated the Nelves so hard. they're gay and not even genderbased anymore.
Blizzard could have added the Eredar to the horde so we could finally have some hot women but instead they made it a stupid shitty color option for the alliance draenei. What a god damn waste.
>>724320919The tree got permission from the aspects at the end of Cataclysm. Hordecuck historical revisionism? On my WoW thread?
>>724321141*Futan'Ari
>exhume this coked up douchebag for their epic saga>story's at its all time worstShould've just had him voice half the game like he did in vanilla. Doubt many people would complain about that.
>>724320721https://youtu.be/Ch4rc5W4dKY?t=147she was always a good friend and ally
Make actual dragons playable and revert them to original style models. With flight and shit.>but muh balance and legacy playersdon't care and blizzard doesn't care either
>>724318847Has there been a bigger humiliation ritual since siege of Org? QRD?
>>724319048Did they ever do anything with the Grimtotem?
>>724321195and the emerald dream still got corrupted because of the tree, getting permission after the fact doesn't do shit. It was complete bullshit that the elves couldn't stand to spend 5 minutes living in the same world as the rest of us mortals without trying to ruin the hwole thing.
>>724317109>The player doing the quest
>>724321141This triggered RPfags so much. Some of them add the fact that they won't RP with red skinned Draenei because they aren't cannon into their roleplaying addon description.
>>724321000>bro the invasion of argus was evil, you can't just genocide the legion like that!
>>724321343The emerald dream got corrupted because of the Satyrs: the agents of the Burning Legion, it had nothing to do with the tree, retard.
>>724317109>the Horde are not the bad guys>meanwhile the HordeWhy do I get the feeling the Alliance would not dig up General Proudmoore and parade his corpse around?
>>724321345Is that a troll/night elf mutt?
>>724321425As I said, I can see your nose from here.
>>724320304no one who pays attention to lore plays this game
Wasnt Gamon one of your followers in Legion?Why the fuck is he trying to make demands of me
>>724321425We didn't genocide the Legion though, we just destroyed their leadership.
>>724321141Why would they even join the Horde?
>>724321345ah yes. more playable fat, butt-ugly orc/troll monster women. who the fuck asked for this?
>>724320462>new lore>midnightit is a retcon, yes, but this was made back in vanilla
>Garrosh>SylvanasImagine being such a LOSER you do evil shit and not get away with it
>>724321515>we just destroyed their leadership.Not even that. Sargeras is just sitting in the Pantheon, awkwardly staring at a bored Illidan.
>>724321515likewise we didn't genocide the night elves, we just evicted them from their tree house. (that they'd only lived in for like 5 years anyway).
>>724321450they're oc nelves with better customization than trolls and nelves have, so you can essentially make better nelves. They cannibalized lore from both races and these are just proto dark trolls/elves. Don't you just love these remanants of Danuser and nu-devs?
>>724321603>likewise we didn't genocide the night elvesDid though, shlomo. You can stop now.
>>724321546Because the retard that posted it probably plays Horde and refuses to make a char on Ally
Wasn't Lor'themar going to marry Thalyssra and legitimize his regency into a proper kingdomship or something along these lines? What happened to that?
>>724321141The fact that pretty much the single most evil race in the entire setting got made playable is but but I don't care anymore and I wish they added fel orcs and fel blood elves too
>>724321603Ashenvale and Darkshore too had been depopulated, what are you talking about? Unlike the Legion, the night elves are not scattered throughout the universe. It was a very clear cut genocide attempt.
>>724317640Haha it was so epic ;D he was all like "I, GAMON, WILL SAVE US" xD Everone is like "whattt is that freakin' GAMON!!?? :O" And then he just starts kicking freakin' ASS!! Iconic WoW moment right there.
>>724317109nu-wow is absolute trash, i'm still subbed but only for the classic variants.the last time wow had a good story was legion and the last time wow had a story even superficially resembling a warcraft story was bfa. everything since shadowlands is just complete nonsensical garbage and i don't even acknowledge it.
>>724319661I miss this era of funposting
>>724321694>marriage>between two white elves>BETWEEN A MALE AND FEMALEOh, excuse me, BETWEEN BODY TYPE 1 AND BODY TYPE 2?! Are you insane? It's the current year!
>>724321710>the single most evil race in the entire settingYou mean the orcs? Because the Eredar are like little kids in comparison to them.
>>724321601him refusing the Light was proof this was how it was always going to turn out.
>>724317109How would vandalizing Garrosh's gravestone provide proof that he's truly gone?
>>724321710They were just tricked by three mega retards mkay?
>>724321710Forsaken have been playable since Vanilla.
>>724318769Can you write this again but in English this time?
So what's the logistics of this quest?Does everyone on azeroth dig up part of Garrosh's corpse? How big is this nigga?
>>724318769There is no way they ever intended to have anything nice or cool happen to arthas. They always intended the tranny to become the arbiter.
>>724321694That was bullshit and Thalyssra was only a vehicle to self insert for the fat, dyke haired devs and madeleine roux. She has thankfully disappeared from the new expac and Lor'themar is now no longer a woobified soft boy. There wasn't even a legitimacy for it. It was literally just Thalyssra bullying him into marriage for feelings. They didn't bother with political reasoning for it and just needed shitborne on the horde for some stupid reason. Fun fact, people are seething about it even more now that they're playing through legion remix and saw how her character was slaughtered.
>>724318087The feral fags having that slouch in warcraft is actually cool, adds more animal parts to them. >Literally My mom's minotaurDoesn't cut It.
post the wheelchair (and the epic duel)
>>724321795>>between two white elvesAt least youre kinda based for NOT playing WoW.
>>724317852>community serviceLast I heard she is coming back for the new expansion
>>724317109The same Tauren who said this spinelessly let themselves be conscripted by Sylvanas to try and kill Malfurion Stormrage, who up until recently was one of their spiritual leaders.The only thing they can muster the courage to oppose is a dead man.
>>724321972She is and she says she doesn't regret what she did, despite saying she regretted it in the last expansion. These nu-writers need to be flogged.
Its funny how the more they try to tear down Garrosh the better they make him look.Guess the writers didn’t learn from Shadowlands.
>>724322056why? people are still buying it and based on this thread, people are still paying attention to the lore instead of disengaging from it
>>724321896No you see, Tyrande's legitimate grievances against Suramar and its people were soooooooo mean, Thalyssra just had to pledge herself and her people who just survived what was essentially the apocalypse and freed themselves from the clutches of a tyrannical ruler just HAD to pledge themselves to SylvANUS and her genocidal world war.
>>724321141>Eredar skin>Can be warlock >Still have gift of the naaru Wow porn is more faithful to the setting than whatever is going on in the canon
Here's your cutscene, bro.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1JxqDgllM8
>>724322152The best part in their new dogshit exploring azeroth books haglyssra is sad the nelves don't like her and she wants to repair the damage :( I hope she fucking dies lol
>>724317109dunno dont play it, im an adult
>You know this one warchief who didnt agree with our worldview?>We're still seethe about it and routinely desecrating his grave. Go desecrate it some more and bring me proof>We're the respectful and honorable good guys trust me broThis sounds something the comically evil Forsaken of old WoW would do: "Remember Uther? Yeah we still discuss how shitty that guy was. We usually piss on his grave and overturn the gravestone. Go push the grave down again and bring us a piece of it lmao"
>>724322149I have stockholm syndrome and it's also kind of funny to watch them fuck it up and then backpedal.
I wish FFXIV was still good.
>>724322243There was literally a quest in TBC where a blood elf has you desecrate Uther's grave, but because the writing wasn't complete shit the point of the quest was to tell you Elf is being a jackass and Uther doesn't care and just wants him to find the light again.
>>724322370Same. The absolute state of MMOs...
>>724322220by lame women whose only context is harry potter films
>>724322243>You know this one warchief who didnt agree with our worldview?In Gamon's case, he was tied to a tree in Orgrimmar and was going to be executed. He has an actual reason to be wary of Garrosh and want to be sure he's dead.
>>724322370I wish GW2 was finally good.Not even gonna mention ESO or Star Wars.Its over, pack it up.
They just can't help themselves. WoWfags will have this cunt shoved down their throats until the very end.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2zUbyjz2ww
>>724321570Hey, who wouldnt want to play as Troll Female (Orc Male)? You wanted a feminine character so obviously it should come with fridge body and muscles.
>Desecrating the grave of the guy who erased himself because of how shit the game is and wouldn't care anyways Doesn't probably have the message they were aiming for
I'm still amazed how the nu-wow devs basically made every evil caricature from the earlier games entirely 110% in the right even the guys who're basically snidely whiplash tier just by writing what they think is right.
>>724322184man really? couldn’t even be bothered to reskin it to look like fel or shadow magic instead?
>>724322243It's even better when you remember that Garrosh died on AU Draenor.They're so mad they literally travel through time and space just to desecrate his grave.
>>724321141Did they ever make Fel Orcs playable or an unlockable skin?
>>724322569no because they would take work
>>724322458>by lame women whose only context is harry potter filmsThe Midnight deep dive video gave me "women who grew up with Harry Potter" vibes too. Just skip to anywhere throughout the video. The voice acting and soundtrack just scream Harry Potter.https://youtu.be/WmG98apVwKw?t=1445
>>724322569nopethe red outland orcs never got HD-ified at all, they still look the same as always
>>724322709Dude, SFM videos are way better than this fucking shit.
>>724320178>but she's sorry now
>>724322709This is our own version of this pic.
>>724322480>Garrosh is worse than someone who committed genocideLmao.
>>724322709world of karencraft
>>724320290The truth is that you've never played the actual game.
>>724319953>male-targeted fantasy games? Actually 50% of GAYmers are women Also, gay people exist, trans people exist too chuddie. So...DEAL WITH IT
>>724321546They wouldn't, not even Blizzard could have pulled that one out of their ass. The way we got playable red Draenei was the ONLY possible way it could ever make sense.
>>724317109Alliance fanboys have been in charge of the narrative since at least Legion and do to such, the narrative has progressively gotten worse and worse.
>>724321450Those things eventually evolved into Trolls which eventually evolved into NElves. Never mind that they look like the halfway point between trolls and NElves, it happened like Blizzard said it did because they said it did.
>>724323073>Alliance fanboys have been in charge of the narrative since at least LegionBrother, the retards in charge aren't even fans of the game, let alone of a faction.
>>724321221what has Metzen ever done for WoW that was so epic? I honestly remember nothing.
>>724322861>Sylvanas at her 9to5 job.
>>724323185Yeah bro, the narrative team who keep pushing the Alliance at the forefront of every narrative for a decade now and keep jerking off Alliance characters are totally not fans of the Alliance.
>>724323018I don't doubt that there are lots of girls playing games, but they mostly play pokemon, the sims and maybe lol if they have issues. The only '"girls" playing wow are actually trannies.
>>724323189Garrosh was completely right all along.
>>724320740wat
>>724322709>Foot soldier with a jousting lance as a main weapon. One would say that a spear chucker would know better than this.
>>724323186He was great when it came to the RTS games. Guy wrote a lot of the hardcore shit in them. Can't think of anything great he did in WoW other than voicing a ton of iconic characters.
>>724323358The Brown orc allied race quest for the horde sends you back to Alternate Dreanor because Yrel with Full Light Nazi and killing everyone who doesnt join the LightSo you help the brown orcs to gtfo of there and join our Azeroth
>>724323358Yrel, the cute Draenei from the Alliance WoD intro, went full jihad and started massacring orcs for not worshipping the naaru.
>>724320740>Perma closedYesn't.It's already gone through a retcon where they've changed the method of getting there being from direct involvement of the Bronze Dragonflight, to the Nightborne just opening the way.Therefore, any Horde mage that's capable of reopening that portal can do it whenever they want.
>>724317109>Le sexy hot muscular bara furry who probably has a cock the size of my arm.NOOOOO!!! WHAT IS THIS FETISH CRAP DOING IN MY RPG VIDEO GAME!!! REMOVE IT FROM TEH GAME!!!!I HATE FURRIES!!!
>>724323285The vast majority of relevant and important characters have always been Alliance. It's why you've seen them at the forefront of the story as neutral characters ever since TBC.
>>724317109Man whoever wrote this shit is seething beyond comprehension. Probably mad as fuck that Garrosh got an ending that everyone unanimously agreed was kickass.
>>724323189Night Elves are the most cucked race in all of WoW.Only a matter of time they bring Illidan back just to shit on him too.
>>724321141Allied races was one of the biggest mistakes in Legion. And we're talking about that expac where some random dudes defeated Sargeras
>>724321673lets be real, its retarded writing that a majority population of a species that lives to 10,000 would migrate to the same 5 year old tree.
>>724321141Yeah, but now every time an Alliance players goes>THE HORDE ARE EVIL, LOOK AT THE FORSAKENHorde can just point out Alliance is now the faction with the 10'000 year old genocidal demons and literal void cultists in it.
>>724317585A lot of things mentioned way back, but they weren't really established as something that important, at least to the current story, same as for example shadowlands. WoW actually introduced those things properly.
>>724323628modern wow is basically just an achievement huting sandbox and a dress up game. i'd say allied races is exactly what the current playerbase wants from wow.
Will Faerin be in Midnight?
>This is the only game my dad wants to play and play with me
>>724323628It’s a fine idea they just decided to put no effort into it’s implementation.Right out of the gate it fucking sucked. Remember how playable Nightborne look absolutely nothing like the NPC ones?
>>724323798To be fair to your dad99% of players dont read the quests
>>724323073the alliance fans threw such a shitfit about Cata rebalancing the zones so that Horde didn't have less leveling areas than the alliance that the devs were afraid to ever oppose them again after that.
>>724323759>modern wow is basically just an achievement huting sandbox and a dress up game.You forgot mounts. Don't forget the mounts. Mounts are the key to all of this.
>>724322370It didn't really get worse. I just got tired of it for a while, personally.
>>724323798Be nice to your dad and cherish the time you spend with him.
>>724318636Nice description of Trump fans
>>724323848He doesn't give a shit about the story either. He just loves the autistic treadmill shit.
>neo-wow shrek models
>>724323920Tell him he's based.
>>724322762Good.
>>724323921>nu-wow beast model>it's 100% done by a furfag who wants to fuck itIt's so fucking tiresome.
Reminder that were 2 decades between these 2 cinematics:>>724322220>>724320346
>>724320110If we get a classic+, horde should side with the amani and alliance gets the aids elfs.
>>724317305Garrosh was the best warchief by far, taking the horde where it needed to go only to get betrayed by Mary sue and the green jesus
>>724323869All the new mounts they add suck ass. Once I had ravenlord and invincible I completely lost interest in the collection treadmill. Don’t want another shitty drake recolor.
God this franchise used to be cool
>>724318707Yeah but they weren't always cucks
i still think why wow got so far in the end is that the game engine is remarkably good compared to the other garbage there is around, meaning it is very responsive to the input and the way animations are synced it just feels really good to play
>>724323506>>724323519Oh damn.
>>724324119>only to get betrayed by Mary sue and the green jesusand the cow chief, and his faggot son, and the troll chief. Legit nobody could've succeeded in Garrosh's shoes, literally all the people thrall said would support him turned on him 5 minutes into his reign.
>that sense of wonder when you walked through the dark portal>that sense of wonder when wrath gave us stormwind harbor>that sense of wonder when you rode the boat to northrendIt's really fucking weird how the game doesn't even feel like wow anymore. Like something happened on the journey from MoP to WoD to Legion that just took WoW away from being WoW
>>724317852just like real life!
Cataclysm fucking sucked, but it had its moments. https://youtu.be/5jIGIJtKCh4?t=45
>>724322709Someone stop blizzard, please.
>>724317852Women privilege
>>724324261>that zone in cata that was completely under water and sick as fuck>players bitched and moaned like crazy because the same brains that can't visualize the apple couldn't handle 3D movement
>>724323818Yes I remember.
>>724324352BE BETTER
>>724318847>>724318953Reminder that all faction war fanboys are fat camping virgins who sucks at the gameIf it had went the FFA mercenary mode, you fags would be crying over not being red vs blu with a orc warrior and human pally camping your asses sideways like Book Tirion and Eitrigg
>>724324261it was legion really, changed all the models, changed all the sfx, changed the UI, added those stupid talking heads
>>724324465By the way, The game is fucked, Chilton got his wish after he ruined Ultima Online with the same faggotry too before he was hired to work at blizzard, Elmer Fudd Slimeballed his way as Tim Willits did at id Software.
>>724324253To be fair Garrosh was an orc to the core, a big brown nigger, and not a green jesus that was raised by humans that became a shaman instead of unga-bunga warrior. It's understandable why other leaders didn't like him.
>>724324490nah, the wonder died as early as Wrath. notice every moment he mentioned was related to travel, and while TBC started it with Shattrash Wrath finished the job with dungeon finder so that wow became a game of loading screens and queues instead of a game of exploring a fantasy world.
>>724324465how do you even recover from getting btfo this hard, goddamn
>>724324296This is censored now btw.
>>724324603the problem is more Thrall being such a retard he thought the other leaders WOULD like him and rather than spending time training him as warchief, he just dropped the chair on him and fucked off. Then Cairne went full retard over a dragonmaw frame job and the rest is history.
>>724324604What's painful is Wrath was also peak wow in many ways like raid design. Hard mode in Ulduar was unlocked not with a menu, but with game mechanics during the fight. You had to specifically do certain objectives to unlock hard mode for each boss. And if you did them all you got a final secret boss. It was amazingAnd then they pulled all the devs off for the Titan project that became Overwatch and put the main WoW team on life support with ToC and then Cataclysm and all following expansions had half the content"less content but quicker!" my ass
>>724324465>I cant put my finger on why, but heres the detailed reason why
Who's the warchief of the horde now? I haven't played since Cata but I find this hilarious to try and keep up with. I know of:Thrall > Garrosh > Vol'gin > Cairne > SylvannasDid they ever let Lorthermar or fat goblin guy take a spin?
>>724324725Ulduar really was the highest high point in all of WoW. XT's hard mode switch being caused by having enough DPS to kill the heart was amazing.
>>724324383Vashj'ir was done so dirty. We could've had a Vashj'ir raid and more zones like it if those braindead retards didn't bitch endlessly about it.Blizzard even removed the Azshara's Veil herbs (the plants that makes most sense being there) from the zone because of the bitching.Also, on retail, Blizzard removed the Vashj'ir intro quest where you're on a boat that gets attacked by Ozumat. Apparently it had some bugs and Blizzard decided to just remove the quest instead of fixing them.
>>724322709Why did they make it look like Michael J. Fox is filming this without image stabilization instead of putting in the effo-Ah.
>>724324835Fat Goblin guy (based) was equated to trump and they have us kill him in the last patch because the goblins want to unionize. I'm not joking. Lor'themar is a boyfriend for the self inserting white girl devs, but he was recently written to be a ruthless troll killer so I think he is dying.
>>724324603>It's understandable why other leaders didn't like him.Idk man those "other leaders" were perfectly fine taking on the name of "the horde" knowing full well what kind of people used that name before them.
>>724324835it's been a gay council since sneedolands or something.
>>724324852The original plan for Cata was insane>original opening raid>raid in the deep bottom of the ocean>then a raid in the sky with the elements>then a raid in the emerald dreamIt's just so fucking painful to see them not only repeately scrap all that content, but then when they released classic wow they didn't put any of it back in. it's so god damn lazy
>>724323798Better to just enjoy the time with your dad and ignore all the retard lore in the game
>>724322709Is this part of illegal danish 4?
>>724324835Horde Council full of OC fuckers.
>>724324835Horde is literally more gay than alliance now. They don't have warchief anymore, just gay liberal council. Also, fat goblin became bad and was replaced by more friendly goblin.
>>724324928>ruthless troll killerThis Amani apologist narrative they are pushing is so cringe.
>>724320779Wait wait wait, I thought Lor'themar was a huge peace cuck like Thrall, Baine and so many other leaders. He's actually based?
>>724324928The entire goblin identity got raped. The WoW writers are beyond fucking retarded.
>>724323603>Only a matter of time they bring Illidan back just to shit on him too.He is 100% coming back either at the end of midnight or at the beginning of the last titan if the leaks are true. Worst part is him coming back is far from the worst part about the leaks.
>>724325125Especially when they killed Liadrin's entire family and Zul'jin gutted Lor'themar, but now they're painting Lor'themar as bad. It's hysterical.
>>724325014Kek that has better production
>>724324168 warcraft 3 is alive and people are playing it. try it
>>724325137He is a peace cuck, but now he's based in the new expac which means he'll be punished.
>>724324168Yeah, they really did ruin it by hyperfocusing on the Alliance come Legion
In general they fucked up the lore so bad. There used to be so much mystery behind it. Also holy fucking shit NOTHING and I mean FUCKING NOTHING will upset me more than the massive retcon with Bolvar as the new lich king. So many hidden plans. And all these cool little easter eggsJust to be swept away so Sylvannus can have her YAAAAAAAAAS QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN moment serious you can literally hear some fat cunt scream that during the world premier of the trailer live
>>724324296>Between this and him executing the guy ordering bombings Alliance civilians to get to soliders, Garrosh is painted as someone who is a little extreme in his methods, but even he has moral lines to draw somewhere>wait JK, he's just orc hitler! I hate the writing team so much it's unreal
>>724325137Lor'themar is literally fucking nobody until Midnight, he's like a placeholder for BE leader.
>>724324981I remember listening to this track at the time and imagining how epic the elemental air raid will be.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8KK3AiFYhEIn the end this music was used for that Thrall quest chain where he gets married. What a waste.
>WoW>2025its time to move on. I know you are all in your early 40s
>>724320683>Where did Blizzard hire from?It's not even that.They just pay well.You pander to the suspiciously wealthy demographic and you get to sell way more shit to them.So you make furfag races to get them in.
>>724325360The worst part is it's so fucking obvious the dungeon has all the scrapped assets>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X37cdarr0ig
>>724325350>belf fags complain about their leader being an absolute nobody since always>finally gets put in the limelight just to be immediately humiliated and killed offI see it coming a mile away, happens every time.
>>724325461anybody still stuck in wow after WoD will never leavethey are remaining until death
>>724317109>"Okay">walk outside gates of orgrimmar>pick up pebble >go back>"Here you go"
At what point did the lore go to shit?
>>724325313Bolvar fucking sucked anyway, it was really bad plot twist back in the day of WotLK for cheap drama that makes everything even more stupid. Sylvanas' plot line and shadowlands overall were even more retarded but still I don't really care that much about Bolvar. They probably replaced one bad idea with another.
>>724320683>Where did Blizzard hire from?DEI consultants
>>724325661when WoW launched
>>724325661TBC where the RPG book lore was ditched and all were high on cocaine off those parties
>>724325661around the time they released world of warcraft and made factions
>>724325661in TBC
>>724325541They let him married a strong woman so maybe he'll be ok, just retire from his status.
>>724322152>We will never again serve a tyrant. Now we fight for Azeroth. :)>*helps burn down Teldrassil and slaughter the night elves that saved them from their own retardation twice*
>>724317109Someone should make a gravestone with blizzard on it and smash it to pieces
>>724325313Legion's death knight quests were the best part>the ebon blade death knights shitting themselves just from getting close to ice crown citadel to drop you off >the lich king talking to you randomly as you quest>his memories scattered around the world as easter eggs >the spirit of arthas lingering and warning you of his plans>"See the spirits writhe and twist. The numberless shades forsaken by time. The dead outnumber the living and always will.">"The darkness does not die, (name). Rage against the Nightmare. Struggle as you will. The infinite dark is patient. We will all be claimed in the end.">"You believe that you are in control, that your will is your own... Yet you do as He commands. You exist by His whim alone. You imagine yourself to be free, but you will always be His instrument…">"So many fallen kings, silent in their numberless graves... Even the mighty are rendered nameless by time. Every king must kneel before death.">that hidden achievement where if you kill every single dragon in the ruby sanctum he goes "... empty inside... just like me">eventually in the final quest he sends you on a suicide mission to raise you as the final horseman of the apocalypse>Tirion saves you but it's fully revealed that he needs you and everything else for something. Something big. To the point that he doesn't give half a shit about the Legion invasionAND THEN NOTHINGFUCKING NOTHINGThe Death Knight player character was canonically the strongest player character and even NPC in the game by far, and Bolvar was even stronger. And then all of that is retconned and Sylvanuss gets to YAAAAAS QUEEN
>>724324974>>724325017
>>724324261It's called bloat. There are too many zones from too many expansions and most of them are super dead without any players in it whatsoever.
>>724325676If you played during Legion there was an assload of secrets >>724325903 but only death knight players saw them and it ended up getting reconned
>>724325661WoD/Legion/Chronicles was the triple hit that's sorta completely fucked it. But people will argue what ever expansion their favourite WC3 character died in
>>724317109I clapped.
>>724325505Still one of the more unique pieces of music in the game:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WEtLS-725I
>>724324568How exactly did he fuck up UO? That was the first MMO I ever played at like 8 years old. My Dad's boss got me into it
>>724325903The gigantic discrepancy of quality between class hall storylines was funny. I could not tell you a single thing that happened in the hunter one other than Rexxar showing up to hang out I guess.
>>724326010>Still posting the same gay ass fake shit from 5 years ago.Grim
>>724326010the amount of shit that has been ruined by these gay little faggy self inserts is insane>thrall goes without saying>that stupid fucking black dragon>mother fucking sylvannus
>>724317109>Accessing alt Draenor casually like it wasn't a circumstantial time fuckery thing,
>>724326010I unironically /kneeled in real life when he said that
>>724325979yeah this was always my problem with wow. They make an entire world that SHOULD be explorable but then isn't anything more than going from point A to point B and never going back for any reason
>>724326083>>The gigantic discrepancy of quality between class hall storylines was funny.>Warlock doesn't even get to kill it's order-hall campaign villain in it's story.>The villain is saved for a dungeon in 7.2 instead >Priests utterly being half-assed so Paladins can have their epic final moment.>Mage being all around forgettable.Really if you weren't playing DH, or a Plate Class they all pretty much sucked
troon gamedead game
>>724317585>>724323754Shadowlands was never supposed to be such a gay fucking concept of an afterlife though.
>>724326225Druids at least got the best base.
>>724326175There used to be way more shit in vanilla and TBC>that anvil at the bottom of the volcano you needed to craft the best weapons because it was the only one hot enough>the spellweave thread that could only be woven in the netherstorm where the mana density was highest, same with felweave in Shadowmoon and Moonweave in the moonwells
>>724325903all thrown away for a sacrifice on the girlboss altar
>>724326292>Shadowlands was never supposed to beFTFY
>>724326225>>Priests utterly being half-assed so Paladins can have their epic final moment.Palachads babysiting the healsluts will never cease to be hilarious.
>>724326225Clothies got the talking weapons I guess. I liked demo lock’s floating skull bro.
>>724326225>>724326083You want to know the funniest thing about all of that? Death Knights were fucking shafted for most of the expansion. You were easily the worst tank, undead was basically balance druid from TBC, and frost was medicoer at best
>>724325502>blizzard pays wellBlizzard is infamous for having shit work conditions and pay.
>>724326036He introduced what killed ultima online the day it was released, the thrice cursed PVP gear update.Also he harassed his colleagues in pvp ingame with is faction wars kikery hardon when the game was planned to be a FFA Mercenary playground where Red Vs Blu was just formalities
>>724326358kino stuff like that added to making the world more alive, but of course it was removed because everybody whined they couldn't just sit around in the capitals
>>724325313Did this guy ever do anything?
>>724320462If you genuinely think anyone cares about shit from Warcraft 2, a game I actually played when it came out, and dark portal, you're a functional retard.Also the writing back then also sucked.
>>724326225Demon hunter one was pretty cool>Slap Akamas shit in the black temple
>>724320901They just weren't dickbags in WC3. The entire arc for the Horde in WC3 was the orcs learning how to not be huge retards and building a new Horde by forging close bonds of loyalty with the Tauren and Darkspear, literally putting their demons to rest after Grom's final chimpout, and eventually coming to help the other races defeat Archimonde at Hyjal.Blizzard just keeps hitting the reset button on them because they can't think of anything else to do, as evidenced by the fact that both non-retard candidates for Warchief have gotten killed essentially off-screen so that the writers can install a new head retard.
>>724326449DKs always look awesome in beta then suck
sowhich private server is the least shit at the moment
>>724325903>>724325984>>724326380What's really funny is at the start of this video you can literally hear people instantly referencing it>"What's next for wow?">someone in the crowd yells "Bolvar!">https://youtu.be/41o14c5Sqz8?si=_Jcd37raNn80ILGP&t=320anyways there's the fat cunt screaming unironically YAS QUEEN
>>724320462HordeGOD here. You blue-boys don't get to bitch about it finally happening to you lot, when you've cheered for years with it happening to Horde characters.Lay in the bed you made
>>724325984I played it and overall all class storylines were good, but I never thought that Bolvar is a good Lich King, not even a minute. I really liked that you actually attack paladin's class hall, that was awesome, but man, the end result was so stupid that I realised that I shouldn't even think about wtf is happening. I understand that blizzard is prioritizing momentary epic rather than overall plot. Some scenes could be awesome but everything is falling apart when you think about the overall plot.
>>724326530They retconned everything so no. The rest of the expansions were all and only about Sylvanus because the writer jerked off to her
>>724326530lolkekrofllmao
>>724326530He was used briefly in the death knight order hall in legion >>724325903other than that no, he was slain epically by girl boss sylvanas almost immediately after
>>724326646see >>724324465
>>724326121Retarded
>>724326708>>724326716doesn't he end up as a literal fucking item in the next expansion? Like his soul is used to power a lamp or some stupid shit?
>>724325903>The Death Knight player character was canonically the strongest player characterI thought that lore powerlevel-wise, Draenei anything would be leaps and bounds stronger than the other playable races
>>724320462ofc they're turning one of the most rational and peace seeking paladins into a raving light fanatic because what else
>>724326417Oh yeah, thanks.
>>724326646>HordeGOD here.
>>724326716it’s fucking stupid too, sylvanas just walks up to icc through millions of undead
>>724325823Every time I consider trying out retail I remember how they ruined Sylvannas (and everything else) and the urge vanishes immediatly.
>>724326489This everybody guy is a real jerk.
>>724317305They're still seething over Hitler despite him being dead for like 80 years. They need to be eternal victims so people will feel bad for them
>>724326605>private server>full of all sorts of poorfag subhumansJust do yourself a favor and grab one of the singleplayer bot repacks. The bots are way better at the game than actual players and will even reply when you talk to them.
>>724326083>The gigantic discrepancy of quality between class hall storylines was funnyDon't forget that the Priest class questline ended up getting hijacked by the Paladin questline
Meet potential Paladin.He jobbed in Vanilla.He jobbed in Wrath.He jobbed in Legion.He jobbed in Shadowlands.
>>724326605paymane if you don't mind the balkangroidsevery other server is full of troons and faggots
>>724327030Still amazed that Warmane hasn't been hit any lawsuits. It's practically a business at this point and Blizzard still hasn't come after them.
>>724325903>strongest player characterEh, id probably give that one to locks just because of the retarded shit they can technically do.
>>724327030Shitmane is full of bis 24/7 gankers.
>>724326131That implies they know their own lore
>>724326131It's funny because the Mag'har race quest shows that the entire planet is basically on the edge of death
>>724326605TurtleWoW but it will be shut down soon by Blizzard.2nd option is Warmane but you're better of killing yourself than playing there.>>724327136Because it's a filter for retards, the biggest subhuman trash plays on Warmane.
>>724326225Warriors should have gotten Broxigar's axe
i'm getting the urge to resub just to see how horrible everything has become
>>724317109Just accept that the Kor Kron were the real horde Loyalist faction, Garrosh did nothing wrong and everyone that came after have been controlled opposition, captured leadership and primarily ruled by spite against the orc majority populace of the horde.I'm troll supremacist and I know this. I'm a troll supremacist and I would still follow garrosh to the grave instead of following that Traitorous Fuck Voljin as he delivered the entirety of Horde lands to the Alliance due to being a butthurt old faggot
>>724327253Wait until the inevitable free weekend.
>>724320462Oh more retcons? Who saw that coming?
>>724327136they have been staying low-key. turtle and ascension have dedicated shill teams and run ads
>>724326605There's ASScension Bronzeberad. It's pretty fun.
>>724326707They didn't retconned everything because there never was anything at all. It's all was pointless. They write something cool and just put it on hold that MAYBE later they are would make something out of it.
>>724327226>TurtleWoW but it will be shut down soon by BlizzardIsnt it run out of some shithole? Maybe the english staff will be let go but i doubt the real thing will be chopped
>>724327282as a tauren bro i feel the same way. Garrosh was way more loyal to the tauren than Baine fucking Bloodhoof.
>>724326835Power levels are hard to judge. Dranei and Night elves seem like they'd be big dick players on paper but they also have the most losses and the least wins. It's hard to consider the faction with demi gods who regularly lose to shoeless mud hutters seriously
>>724319220>you now realize blizzard has been fucking terrible for twice as long as they were good
>>724327146not just that, the server is like the modern job market when it comes to raids.>LFM ICC NM 18/25 must have full heroic achieveYeah ok
>>724327351>Ascension Bronzebeard>marketed as vanilla+>it's actually retail-Fuck this shit.
>>724325014Illegal danish really did have higher production value than thatjust went and watched the first one because of this lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y25XCwOBSUQ
>>724327013If Bolvar wasn't an Alliance character, he wouldn't have been glazed as hard for doing literally nothing up until SL
>>724325903my favorite is if you're a DK and did that quest there's another questline you can do in dragonflight for a red dragon where she brings it up. and you can threaten to kill her as well
>>724327282eh mon, we should just give the whole continent of pandaria to the alliance
>>724327417More like retard++. Not even warmane have such retarded playerbase.
>>724326605I play tauri because I like pandaria, yeah call me shit but at least it's not 15 years old with this >>724327146
>>724323189Sylvanas has overstayed her welcome for far too long, she should have been killed off in wotlk for being a psychotic warmongering whore, even for horde standards.Preferably she should have been killed off even earlier
>>724327475The golden age of WoW machinima. I still rewatch Zinwrath every so often.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qse5IzVLgY
>>724327546Bro the whole Windrunner family has overstayed their welcome. Every character connected to the family, be it the sisters themselves, their bastard children, or human self insert OC boyfriends are all terribly written characters that the plot repeatedly bends around to justify.Nuke the last remaining living members of the family from orbit and maybe something good will finally happen in the narrative
>>724326605>Turtle is the most faithful to Vanilla to the point it's still on the vanilla client, and it's the only one that's an actual RP server>but the community can be a bit cringe and it might be getting killed>Epoch is pretty fun and a nice balance of faithful and having a newer client>but it's fucking dead and some of the design decisions are retarded>Warmane is literally just Classic but without Blizzard's retardation>but it's populated solely by Russians and Brazilians and it's P2W>Ascension is the most intricate and has a lot of options, content, etc.>but it's cash-shopped to shit and in many ways it's more like retail than it is the original expansions>single-player servers give the most control>but you're playing an MMO literally by yourself like a turbo-autistThere's literally no winning.
>>724327417>>724327510You blizzdrones dont even know what the fuck do you want, keeps bullshitting and doesnt even know what Classic or Vanilla + and you want to dictate what a server should be to leave after lvl 33 because it isnt "fresh" anymoreGo fuck yourselves, you deserve to be fucked.
>>724327587You now remember BLAZER.
>>724326605Turtle, don't listen to players who say it's run by trannies because it's not and I've yet to see someone actually prove it. Neither is it overly moderated, you're not gonna get banned for calling someone a nigger or a faggot
>>724327030reminder that the Wotlk client has a RCE exploit and Warmane is the only server that blocks you from playing on it if you patch your client to fix it.
>>724326427>Palachad>Bubble>6 second stunA Chad would never need such cowardly abilities.
>>724326954>singleplayer bot repacksThis seems like ass to install and run though
>>724326946Sylvannas was always a shit character.
>Raiding from Cata to Legion>Boss does some dangerous mechanic or debuff
>>724327698>turdle>goodthanks for proving >>724327719 right, you fags dont know what the fuck you want unless blizzard does it.
>>724319637males would look good as dual wielding survival hunters
>>724327881Did you not read more than the first fucking line of the post?Are you a genuine retard?
>>724317512>Modern WoW is handled by former WoW fansThis is so wrong, if they were wow fans they wouldn't purposely destroy everything about the game that makes it WOW.
>>724319637Fits with trolls in general looking like ass
Realistically, how would you fix wow if you were put in charge?
>>724327698real nerds spend their time on epsilon
>>724327587I went to High School with Ben Pickerel (the guy who played Zinwrath) cool dude
>>724317109>Let's create a massive continuity issue with Draenor so the writers can say PLEASE STOP LIKING GARROSH just one last timeGod they're such fucking dumbasses lmao
>>724328017Time travel to 2008-2009 and prevent Activision from buying Blizzard.
>>724328017Azeroth explodes. The End.Time for WoW 2.
>>724328017Fire Anne Stickney and Sarah Cotner and anyone who is suspected of self inserting.
I am honestly amazed nobody posted cropped porn yet
>>724324214the tauren were always cucks to my memory.
>>724328003This pretty muchyou can tell the original WoW and WC3 were basically made by people who liked listening to 2000s metal and were big into classic fantasyThe entire modern input feels like a weird mishmash of literally anything the devs could think of that day and their politics. At least back then they were like "yeah, this would be cool, I'd wanna play this"
>>724319637Ah yes this looks real I am not at all suspicious due to the constant stream of real looking but fake "leaks" we get every year.
>>724327864No, she was not.
>>724317109i thought it was this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-YMR6l7h4gbut garrosh is some new addition?
>>724328118*entire WoW team is fired*
>>724328017remove transmog and cosmetics and all mounts except racial mountsrevert all censorship and add a titty sliderremove anything in the game that looks like it was written by a tranny
>>724318087I like ugly bastard minotaurs.
>>724328014full reset back to 'niller
>>724328184They literally showed it during the midnight panel at gamescom, and then gave them bigger noses after everyone complained. In true blizzard fashion, they gave troll players green skin tones LMAO
>>724317635Pure kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nb3q1oROOg
>>724328160>The entire modern input feels like a weird mishmash of literally anything the devs could think of that day and their politics.The old input was that except The Simpsons was still good, in fairness.
>>724328017They seriously need to do an asspull where Thrall wakes up during some fuckass Horde meeting and everything past WotLK was a nightmare and never happend, then Thrall does the shit that's like "Oh, it was nothing, I just thought I saw something" lmao
uh oh the spambot is here
>>724327504>>724327367All the other horde races owe a debt of gratitude to orcs and all the war chiefs since have just been shitting on all the work and all the wars fought up till this point. Betraying Garrosh because of hurt fee fees just feels shitty as well. There being no choice to stand and die with Garrosh when the alliance were invited in by Horde fifth columnists makes no sense. Utterly amoral behavior, torching the capital and putting thousands to death, clearly in the service of outside parties. A heinous little theatre. I quit the game permanently before I could see this storyline play out.
>>724328247I miss the Hamlette era when he would be trotted out to announcements and the vitriol that got spewed.
>>724317480>the horde is honorableThe Forsaken starter zone disproved that over twenty years ago.
>"Gosh, I wonder why wow is so shit now. It's really a mystery"
I have no idea why anyone would play this game in 2025. You cant even ERP in it anymore since it's all people advertising their OnlyFans instead of RPing and then when you visit it they're a tranny.
>>724328341>everything past vanilla was a nightmareftfyfuck space goats, fuck belfs being in the horde, and fuck flying
>>724328381Forsaken aren't part of the Horde during their starting zone.
>>724328396Allow me to burst your bubble and show you the demon's true name.
>>724327834They're super easy to install (either run a simple installer or unzip) and optimization is pretty good for vanilla and TBC and amazing for WotLK.I guess the vast amount of bot options available in the config can be a bit intimidating, but the defaults are good enough. Just change the amount of bots you wand and you're good to go.
Midnight:>Light bad>Titans bad>Men badGood thing I can ignore all of that and focus on what really matters: Tig ole Draenei bitties.
>>724328436Yeah, those were retarded, but still better than anything after WotLK
>>724321335Shamans were forced to work together with Magatha in Legion, for no reason.
Remember Oxhorn?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9n6EZnV8UM
>>724328450>"Hmm why yes, it was the faceless company's fault, not the group of mentally ill women and homosexuals who work on the game now, hm. Those damn corporations"
>>724327834Pretty sure there are docker scripts out there for it
>>724328017Start selling server licenses that include some basic rules of conduct (no, not that you can't tell people bad words but simple shit like no P2W or scams) to allow for private serversRelease some basic tools for how to use add or mod WoW as a game, server-wide tooStart a Classic+ project that headhunts some talent from the fanbase that actually makes things worth a damn, having licensed servers would let the talent grow naturallyExercise some creative control (everything should look like it came out of a metal album cover, think hammerfall, or a late 90s/early 2000s comic book)Focus way hard back on the fantasy aspect, end retail wow because the story's way too gone anyway
>>724328450then how come every ex-blizzard dev game flops hard?
The only good things to come out of WoW are Noname55 and Assumi. The rest has been irrevocably tainted by the niggerism of Actiblizzshart.
>>724328017Insert myself into the writing room and immediately fire anybody on the spot if they present something mentioning feelings, diversity or anything that isn't justified with "because it's badass/metal".I'm absolutely certain that Blizzard still has cool people working on the game but just like often is the case, their work and ideas get diluted as it passes up the chain.
>>724328589>ACKCHULLY IT'S THE TRANNIES' FAULT, YOU SHOULD LOOK AT MY COLLAGES; ACTIVISION DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, THEY'RE A FACELESS COMPANYSaid in the voice of Disney's Mad Hatter.>>724328601Because Blizzard North was the source of almost all good output even in Blizzard's glory years, next question.
>>724328017Fire every non-caucasian and woman, hire only white men I'll guarantee you that'll fix WoW within the decade
>>724328589>Those damn corporationsI mean, they and their hr ladies created the environment for this mess in the first place
>>724319953Jews.
>>724317109We must be better orcs.
>>724326536Where do retards like you come from?
>>724317109Why is 99% of modern WoW total dogshit but then you get slipped kino like >>724328301 under your prison door right before you die of starvation?
>>724328714>>724328834Yes, they were just following orders, they're actually good people why don't hate you at all :)
>>724328834It's the eternal fate of the culture warrior to pretend managers, executives, companies and acquisitions have nothing to do whatsoever with all the grunts they're obsessed with. They just spawned from thin air one day like fruit-flies. Immaculate conception and all that.
>WoW threadAre the Classic Anniversary servers fun? I sort of want to play TBC and Wrath when they get to that point.
>>724317109
>>724328956To make retards keep paying and playing the game by feeding them tiny little scraps of hope
>>724323628>>724323818Allied races should never have existed as they do now, they should merely have been more customization options.
>>724327721>implying I ever forgotPart 3 was pure, unfiltered middleschool kino.
literally made for female night elves
>>724328436>everything past warcraft 3 was a nightmare
>>724328987the game itself is fun, but the people playing on those servers are the biggest subhumans you will ever meet. Also everything is botted to shit and blizzard doesn't care. Bot farms can mass report you and get you autobanned for fucking with them
>>724328591Also this means that buying a private server license would basically fund the development of a proper version of WoW that would ultimately allow more freedom for private servers to put their own spins on things (and also produce more content for people to use)Then, make sure everyone either looks really cool or really sexy, with ugly characters that are clearly intended to be ugly instead of the current paradigm where they try to sell you the shittiest looking characters as amazingly beautiful and valid or something. (also start shoving in some fanart for the loading screens like they used to)
>>724328885>We must be better men.He shouts, as he flees from the building with arms loaded up with bottles of breast milk.
why are you troons still giving money and engagement to this tranny company's tranny game?
>>724317683>I may endorse universal genocide but I draw the line at mind control The sheer shittiness of Shadowland's writing and the downfall of Sylvanas' character needs to be studied
>>724328967>Yes, they were just following orders,Nothing I said excuses them, faggot. I'm just calling it out that them even having jobs in the first place is a symptom of another problem.
>>724317109Garrosh died in the alternative universe Draenor, how do they expect you to get back there?
>>724329184Go back to the farms
>>724329204and I said they were just following orders, faggot
>>724329262With the portal room, dummy :^)
>>724320038Watch your tone with me, xister. You may be a fan, but I'm still your superior as a massive faggot.
>>724327282>garrosh considered the goblins more trustworthy and worth keeping around than trollsgoes to show the kind of impression vol’jin left on him
>>724322532No it has a green fel colour when used.
>>724317109Why do we care so much about Garrosh? They couldn't even keep his personality straight. Is it because we're so desperate for someone to look up to and light our way in these horrible dark times where the entire world is genociding us?
>>724329184What, these people have something against Michael Jackson too now?
>>724329310The kiwi farms, amirite?
>>724329389Garrosh needed the Goblins to build shit, there was a scenario during Mists where you play as Goblins who decide to abandon Garrosh because he refuses to pay them
>>724320304Anybody that cared about the lore quit at *least* 10 years ago. The cretins that are left behind paying for blizzard products are shit eaters and deserve the lgbt-colored globs of shit they're served.
>>724329431no
>>724329312But you're wrong, retard
>>724317109Gamon is a cuck now?
>>724326952And your kind seethes over Hitler being treated like the trash he is, crying nonstop over anything portraying Nazis as the bad guys.
>>724329389Garrosh scammed and cheated and abused the Goblins, such as not paying them for their work.
>>724329427Because he was a hard, shit-talking character in a game that was starting to get soft, a game that used to be based essentially on a bunch of heavy metal and fantasy shit meshed together. I don't even care if he was made into a villain but he had edge, which is what the game pretty much lost in its entirety.
>>724317683Based garrosh
>>724320721Believe all undead women, CHUD. She said she's sorry - GET OVER IT and desecrate Garrosh's grave in another dimension, planet, and timeline behind a canonically closed portal like the rest of us one the Right Side of History.
>>724317991This, slaughter everyone who isn't us, God told us we alone were worthy of the life he created existence with, butcher the children and execute the women after raping them.
>>724328017Fire Ion and Holly Longdale. Rehire Kosak. Put a mandate on the narrative team that they're not allowed to write any more OC races or hyper-focus on Elves for 3 expansions.Put a second mandate on the narrative team that they can no longer copout with having a "neutral character" focused story where the majority of the "neutral" characters are Alliance leaders.Put a third mandate on the narrative time that they're actually forced to write a Horde focused narrative and an Alliance focused narrative like they used to have to and can no longer hide behind just telling Alliance narratives while desperately trying to gaslight everyone into thinking it's a neutral narrative.Put a fourth mandate on the narrative team to finally get around to unfucking the Horde from the mess they left them in Legion and BFA.Hire an actual class developer for WarlockFinally get a Cloth Hero class.Take a step back from Void because time and time again the writing team proves they can't write that at all.Actually establish a new plot involving a post Legion-Legion.Keep the Titans, Elune and what ever fucking cosmic deity's out of the plot againGive Horde back a Warchief.Mandate a lore advisor who has to fact check and keep the narrative team in check so they can't peddle their fanfic anymore.Fire every member of the dev team who's got a character on Moonguard
>>724329482OY VEY IT’S LIKE ANUDDA KEZAN
>>724320721Blizzard consists of women and fags.
>>724319334Unironically, she is the only thing that is holding up WoW for me as anything to care about.Fucking crazy LMAO
>>724329126*Male Tauren
>>724329652Honestly even if Blizzard botched WoD at least the Orcs had some roughness to them even through the shitty new Pixar graphics they were vaulting into. And Gul'dan remained a pretty decent central bad guy for as long as he was around, but even then they were missing on not making Samwise the central art guy like he was up until Wrath and letting the game look increasingly like a mobile game.
>>724329590Worship of Hitler as a religious icon is done by everyone that believes in the Holocaust. If you watch Holocaust/ww2 docus with Hitler in them you are engaging with the figure similarly to whatever edgy teens on /pol/ do; only from the other side. Functionally it's the same. Either you pick "alliance" or "the horde". Introducing this dynamic into WoW is fucking insane and retarded.
>>724328017We got time travelAll we need to do is canonically recon all the bad writing. Say Chromie, everyone's favorite valid and brave dragon, realizes we're in a doomed timeline and sends everyone back to WotL to stop the Forsaken from fucking everything up
>>724329537So what the fuck are you arguing about then, retard?
>>724328473Can you recommend a specific pack that isn't infested with malware? (Don't know if they really are, I just always read that when looking some up)
>>724317109Are the libshit writers so fucking retarded that they actually believe that this will work?
>>724329985>both sides are the exact same!Ah, so the only way to not worship Hitler is to erase every trace of his existence and wipe the minds of the populace of all memory of him.
>>724329389Of course, they were the bankers...
>>724329590>And your kindwho?
>>724329931>letting the game look increasingly like a mobile game.and play like one
Why are you faggots getting angry at the game doing something that constantly happens in real life?
>>724330114>arguingYou're the one that started this shit. You said the troons are bad, I agreed and said corpos are also bad for hiring them, and you started a bitchfest accusing me of claiming said troons were "only following orders"What the fuck is your problem
>>724330051Just have the Last Titan expac end with Azeroth waking up, being omnipotent and reversing the last 20 years of lore. Then start Classic+ but make it a little more like how Warcraft 3 left off and upgrade the engine so it doesn't run like shit.>>724330187Well, Microshit doesn't have Xbox anymore to they need something for WoW to play with 1 button presses on.
>>724329758This is the fundamental issue. Ever since Legion the writing team tries to pretend this isn't a 2 faction game.
>>724327802reminder warmane’s player count is totally fake and they throttle /who so you can’t run wowcensus to see that
>>724330115Vanilla & TBC:https://github.com/celguar/spp-classics-cmangos/releases/tag/v2.0The repack has a beta build option in its launcher. It's recommend to use the beta.WotLK:https://github.com/kadeshar/ASPThey're both clean and safe.
>>724330203because a game isn't supposed to be like real life, it's a game not a simulationthough i suppose the old tag line was "world of warcraft- it's not a game, it's a world"
>>724330293I didn't accuse you of shit, nigger
>>724319482>It's okay when FFXIV has wheelchairs!Get out troon
>>724329042>the wow story forums, colorized
>>724330435War happens in real life, are you angry about the game being realistic?
>>724330574Where are the FPV drones in WoW?
>chuddies still malding about my KWEENkekaroo
>>724320315>measurably busted and overpowered >it was greatI'll always celebrate when one of you faggots had your braindead fotm builds taken away from you.
>>724330736Watch your clever mouth, bitch.
>>724330609
>>724328017Rocks fall, everyone dies. Then, it was all a dream. Announce WoW2, starting off from the end of Warcraft 3.
>>724330490>I was only being unironically ironic here guise>>724328967
>>724317512is like runescapethe story quests fucking suckppl like those games fun gameplay and goals you can make for yourself
>>724321843not possible, shadowlands lore is written in schizobabble by design
H'where the new thread at muhfuggers?
Remember when this was basically an actual character design in the game? What happened?
>>724330985get off the internet
>>724317512People don't necessarily called WC3 well written, but it's well-told and it's pretty good at being both cool and emotional when it needs to be. Being extremely quotable also helps.
>>724331252Tongue my anus
>>724331293I'd say the dialogue and character interactions are well written. The excellent voice acting adds to it a lot too.
>>724320901I like green conan the barbarian.I like evil orcs, but not all my orcs need to be ooga booga violent genocidal retards for me to enjoy them.I like the primitive-martial-"honorable" trope.Quit being a seething faggot because alliance didn't simply get to be goody-good good guys. That's what these types of arguments are really about. If horde isn't unapologetically evil, it means alliance can't be unmistakably benevolent and good. So you whine.
>>724331354Brings my piss to a boil they didn't bring back Arthas's VA for WoW
