Was it good?
>>724325519no not really, I remember dropping it once you get to the big city. the way you recruit other fags sucked compared to older games
>>724325519Yes. I liked it a lot.
>>724325519>is [sequel] good?When has this ever been the case? Especially isn’t the case with this game, there’s a reason we never got another
>>724325519It was the best.https://youtu.be/usuKnzJLoHU
Real question, are there any good romhacks of Mystery Dungeon?Specifically the time one with Dialga, I'd assume anything made after is absolute shit.
>>724325727yeah man fuck rewards i love rng
>>724326251sky was the best one tho
>>724325519The best one, actually.
>>724325519It was decent. As decent as a mystery dungeon game can be, anyway.
>>724325519Yes
>OST goes all-out>Story goes all-out>Content goes all-outIn retrospect it's clear they planned for this to be the last game in the franchise. Remakes not withstanding.
>>724325727same, I LOVED pmd1 and 2 but the 3ds games sucked until the remake. I dropped super as well, maybe I was older (20s iirc) but still
>>724325519>horribly paced story>easiest gameplay in the series>retarded systems you can't turn off like party members being randomly unavailableeven gates was better than this
I recall liking it and certainly thinking it was better than gates to infinity but I also never finished it.
>>724325519>Zoophile slop>>724325727>the way you recruit other fags sucked compared to older gamesHow hard did you get over calling the literal animals "fags"?
>>724325519Fuck no. I don't have any idea why anyone likes Super. PMD2 is still the best one and gameplay-wise they're all worse than Shiren anyways
>>724325519It felt a bit closer to a proper synthesis between Shiren and Pokemon.In Blue/Red Mystery Dungeon, the basic attack scaled off of the Attack and Defense stats. So a viable strategy for most 'mons was to use your basic attack as the workhorse and save your move slots for utility (ranged attacks, AoE, etc.)In Super, the basic attack is fixed at 5HP damage, so the low-damage high-PP moves like Tackle and Scratch are consistently useful throughout the whole game.I remember Orbs and Wands (the latter of which were absent in the original Blue/Red games) feeling a lot more useful too.The worst thing about the game was easily the party system though. It's framed as you "making friends" and asking them to help out, rather than you leading a team. So with the exception of your main partner, Pokemon can randomly decide to be unavailable if they're higher level than you (that you can even field Pokemon significantly stronger than you is questionable).
>>724330507What is a redditor doing out here? You fags should just stay in your circlejerk bubble
>>724330851Go sodomize a literal dog, sick fuck.
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>>724330507Did you really get offended over the word "fag"?
>>724332724You zoophiles actually get hard over calling literal animals "fags". I am disgusted.
>>724325519They have 700+ monsters and decide that the final boss should be a black orbI have no clue how they fumbled the mystery dungeon franchise so hardOnly the DS games were good and that's it
>>724332867t. zoophile mad that he can't goon to losing to the final boss on purpose and imagining what happens to his literal animal characters offscreen afterwards.
new sharty schizo just dropped
>>724325519Yes. It was a massive course correction from Gates, which had good writing and music but was unforgivable at everything else. I do find it odd that you finish the game at like level 30.>>724332867Never got this criticism. It's neat when they let you fight something that isn't a standard Pokémon.
What is it about Nintendo IPs that attracts so many schizos?
>>724333208>Never got this criticism.Imagine defending a kirby ass boss design that has zero connection to the world, unlike the final antagonists of the first two gamesMakes me give zero shits about the story when I know the devs don't give a shit either
>>724325519Yes. I didn't finish it yet but i love it so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmzlWYOuPPo
>>724328602>>easiest gameplay in the series? Isn't it like the most unbalanced game in the series? Like the early game has some weird difficulty spikes iirc
>>724325519Overall? It's fine, I don't particularly mind the story though it is too slow for its own good. The "and then they evolved!" mechanic is dumb. Having a final boss that isn't an actual Pokemon is always stupid, you can't recreate Dialga's Fight to the Finish without a good legendary, stop using concepts you cowards.All that said, I didn't mind the moment to moment mystery dungeon part. The Emera bands were a very fun concept and I think if they iterated on it and focused on balancing them some more, it could really come into its own as a mechanic. Wands were more hit or miss, just being stackable single target Orbs. Turns out they were unstackable for a reason.
>>724334131the salamence is entirely optional, it's memed by people who didn't actually play the game.super showers you in reviver seeds 24/7, gives you retardedly broken emeras in every dungeon, and stuffs your inventory with hundreds upon hundreds of "i instantly win this fight" wands. by the time you're out of the tutorial the game has no more challenge left to offer. you can go through one dungeon, die 20+ times, and have more reviver seeds than you started with just by talking to cofagrigus and trading the gold bars you picked up in said dungeon.
>Caring about the gameplay in a zoophile gooner "game".Do you also watch porn for the story?
>>724335135show us on the doll where the riolu player touched you, schizo-kun
Story was okay but I found the partner really likeable in this game, moreso than the partners in the other games
where's explorers of sky dx? don't really care about legends or mainline games at this point
>>724335569>Where is dog molestor simulator good graphics edition?
>>724325519I remember you could recruit lvl 50s while you and your partner were in your teens which was goofy as hellI didn't finish it.
>>724325519Being able to see other cities beside the main starting area was cool but the plot was a rehash of Gates to Infinity with Explorers elements mixed in. I kinda liked the Emeras they were a fun concept though it's both funny and insane that the game throws a fucking level 50 salamence at you during the tutorialIt's my favorite gameplay wise but the rest was kinda ehhh. Insane amount of legendary wanking for stakes
Haven't played a mystery dungeon in a long time. Any suggestions? Seeing this thread has given me an itch to play and ill emulate whatever is the best. The original GBA ones aren't the best still right?Also what's up with the underage retard spamming the thread
>>724338193play explorers of skyor else...
>>724338193People consider Explorers of Sky the definitive experience. It is the best one in term of content and the one people talk about when you bring up pmd.I'd say play it if you haven't though beware the long cutscenes/repetitive dialogues of that game it never endsOtherwise i think Gates is the best storywise but it's got the worst gameplay in the entire series, that and the dialogue box are slow as hell unless you go out of your way to patch it yourselfSuper has the best gameplay but it might not hook you like Explorers mightWiiWare is just ass
>>724334027you're in for such a good time, quit the thread immediately
>>724325519It was better than Infinity
>>724336465The thing with those high level mons is that while you can go and use them, they will become unavailable to be used for a several in-game days afterward.Ultimately, items reign supreme in that game.
I can never bring myself to finally go past Sky because how the hell do you even attempt to top that?
>>724326251Pokemon BW2Majora's MaskMario Galaxy 2Sequels can be kino.
>>724339186Super isn't better than Sky but it does a lot differently so it's at least worth playing for variation.Plus it's full of nostalgiafagging for the older entries, if you're into that.
>>724338193Explorers of Sky for a good story, otherwise go play the most recent Shiren game because they're way fucking better from a gameplay standpoint.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2178480/Shiren_the_Wanderer_The_Mystery_Dungeon_of_Serpentcoil_Island/
>>724326251>Crash 2>Sly 2
>>724339186Super is better than sky, your partner is without a doubt the best partner in the entire franchise.
>>724339953yeah but Explorers has the worst partner in the franchise so that's a moot point
>>724326810I don't know if this is true about the later ones but Rescue Team and Explorers were compiled in a way that makes modding it EXTREMELY hard, even just changing the number of characters in a dialogue string will make the game not boot. In the last half-decade people figured out how to get around these issues but the modding is comparatively in its infancy. I've seen a couple projects but I don't know if they're good. At the least you can mod practically any Pokémon into the game as your starter and partner, with community-made portraits for all the emotions. This project adds all the new-gen starters and a couple others if you just want something premadehttps://projectpokemon.org/home/files/file/4985-pmd-expanded-sky-dusk-eos-new-gen-starters-mod/
>>724325519I don't know what this game is but It's Pokemon so no it's not good./thread
>>724326810>>724340321look up PMD Origins.it's a replication of the mystery dungeon engine on PC, already has a fair few games made on it. Also they gave more moves diverse properties (wider variety of ranged moves for starters) which I think are for the better.
>>724340321Why the fuck just not use one of those rpgm templates instead of trying to reinvent the wheel?
>>724340890I'm not shitting on RPGMaker as a whole, but I've never seen a good Pokémon fangame made in RPGMaker, though I imagine a large reason why is because everyone gravitates to the Pokémon Essentials framework which is optimized like shit
>>724341076Infinite Fusion?
>>724341076Pokémon Essentials is yeeeeeaaaaaars behind. People use it due to ease of access along with the major amount of documentation it has but it's been long overdue for an engine change. The average joe can do crazy stuff on MV/MZ even without coding knowledge yet nobody has bothered porting the mechanics on those version despite how that change would have a very high chance of rejuvenating the pokemon rpgm scenethat, and also because a lot of them are creatively bankrupt
>>724340890what is that webm? looks intresting
>>724342097>intrestingdamn I just
>>724330507fag is a throwaway word, you would know this if you were born before the year 2000, zoomie
>>724342097https://yabeeboy.itch.io/dddkiirc it's even got a whole password system like in the pmd games which is impressive for 2k3there's an english patch out there but I forgot where the link went
>>724325519It had a good build-up but I think the plot of the game was kinda rough. It really jerks off legendaries while also having a final boss that isn't a pokemon, which I never really liked even in the previous game. The story is also fairly short, you arrive at the society and then stuff kinda just goes into full gear from there. The post-game, which I never finished btw, was great though. I should finish it some day, but it was pretty fun.Gameplay wise, we're way better off than what Gates did, but the wands are so strong in this game. The Mystery Dungeon series has always had a focus on item management and items were strong so you'd want to use them at the right times to save yourself from doom or potential doom, and keep your rare reviver seeds intact. But in Super Mystery Dungeon, you can stack wands on top of each other in a single inventory slot, so you could use these items with great effects with basically no risk.
>>724340605I can second Origins. I also appreciate the much more varied floor generation though I can appreciate part of the charm of knowing the "style" of floor you get and planning around that, so some might not enjoy that change as much.Didn't know it already had games though, where do you even go to find those? Some Discord server?
Super was pretty good, maybe not Sky good, but still a great game. I'm not sure I like how recruitment works though. Whilst the connection orb is a good idea, it shouldn't be how you actually get Pokemon since you're limited to 1 each. So if you ever wanted to recruit weaker mons to not have an OP team, you can't do that, and EXP share is forced on as well. And it means you run out of missions, really kills replicability without starting a new save file. Everything else is good, good gameplay mechanics, good music and story as you'd expect. If you skipped the 3DS games because you heard bad things about Gates, then try Super.
>>724343294thanks for the link kind stranger
>>724343631*kills replayability
It's a good game, but there's still been nothing that has come close to beating the comfiness that is the friend areas from the first game. I wish they'd make more use of the world of Pokemon, you could have other spin off games use it's environments and lore.
>>724342441You just want to get off to verbally humiliating animals and imagining them having "fag" homo sex! Zoophile!
>>724346083Bump.
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>>724340321explorers is not hard to mod lmao, skytemple lets you do basically anything you want
>>724350756>first release version in 2020 according to githubLike I said, people figured out how to mod it despite the issues but it took a long time
>>724325519Yes it was.
Super was alright but you spend half the game in pre-school but the nonstop betrayals was kino. I also like the combat pushing items and actually using moves and the late twist where the partner is the one who dies
