This has been going around on X with people universally agreeing with it. What do we think fellow /v/ posters?
go back to the people of X and never come back here again
>>724325752please go back to X and never returnnot a single one of these games is even the best in their franchise.
>>724326207>>724326156Just stop newfags, everyone cross-posts here
>>724325752Wind Waker is the best Zelda. NGB is a 10/10, yes. RE4 is a 9/10. Demon's Souls is a 5/10.
>>724326156fpbp
>>724326256Go the fuck back. 2015 was a fucking mistake.
>>724326256It's just pajeets like you stealing our posts and posting them on twitter for revenue
>>724326307>Demon's Souls is a 5/10.Holy shit you are a fucking retard, it's easily the best game there (NGB is the worst and Itagaki is a hack)
I honestly believe that Dead Space 2 is better than RE4.
>>724325752You posted this thread yesterday troll
>>724326559>>724326307Stop engaging earnestly you stupid trannies.
>>724325752Nah, not even close.Tetris needs to be on there, in some capacity. Gradius should be as well, if not Parodius instead. I could say one of the Starcraft and one of the Virtua Fighter games as well, especially since Starcraft has actual tournaments around it for years and it's not due to updates every month changing the core game. I'm hesitant to add other games without being able to really compare them to others in the same category.This image is "games which other people say are the best but I've never played myself" which kind of gives away the problem. If these are 10/10 then there are dozens or hundreds of other games that are also 10/10.
>>724327818>Gradius>10/10 game>Starcraft 10/10 because a few autists still hold tournamentsLMAO!Shitters with no clears who exoticize random garbage as some genius masterstroke just because it's a genre they don't play and know nothing about is always so fucking funny. Stop this poser bullshit and get a fucking clear. Embarrassing.
I agree with LTTP and NGB but not RE4 or Demon Souls
>>724326307>Wind Waker is the best Zeldain your fucking dreams, cubie. it's a 5/10 snoozefest
>>724325752Ok
>>724328289>Shitters with no clears who exoticize random garbage as some genius masterstroke just because it's a genre they don't play and know nothing about is always so fucking funny.So you mean the people claiming that Ninja Gaiden Black and Demon's Souls are 10/10 games?
>>724325752replace that bingtoddler zelda crap with KH2 and we have a deal
>>724325752>RE4no>Demon's Soulsno
>>724328781If someone said that after an hour played and they had never played another action game in their life? Sure.People claim to like games like Gradius just to try to look knowledgeable and underground for internet cool points, rather than being honest with themselves. Thus, they are poser faggots.
It's weird how the narrative has shifted on From Software from "AA developer who make cool games of a questionable quality" to "best ever".Have these people even played From Software's games?
Why do people pretend to have played ALTTP, Ninja Gaiden Black, and Demon's Souls?Just say you like watching youtube videos.
>>724328289realtalk: people who 1cc arcade games are weirdos. These games are meant to be played in short bursts, for points. You aren't better than the majority of people who have ever played these games, just because you hang around on forums, and talk about "routes" and "tech" (which is basically cheating).
>>724329228The only people who knew about From games pre Dark souls were Armored Core fags like me
>>724325752>with people universally agreeing with itI find that very hard to believe.
>>724329718Dark Souls itself didn't become a polished product until 3. Those early games are all questionable as fuck, which is part of what's fun about them. They're very breakable, and filled with all kinds of bad localisation.
Disagree with NGB. A lot of the bosses suck shit and the art direction is all over the place, making the game feel haphazard.
>>724329841>muh polishKys zoomer muttgolem
>>724329907How can you possibly play DeS or DS in their original forms and think those are ten out of ten games? Those games are FUCKED, in a good way. It's part of what I liked about them.
>>724329891This. The fact that people hate NGS and claim to love NGB when Sigma is almost the exact same game except with many improvements, just shows that most people only claim like NGB because of its classic status and not because they actually think it's a great game.The platforming is horrendous, the camera is constantly fucking with you, soundtrack is largely forgetable, artstyle bland, it's way too long for an arcadey style game, many of the bosses are hit or miss, and there are numerous downright jank bullshit sections. It's like a B-tier PS2 adventure game mixed with some solid combat, but unless you just really, really love the deep, ultra-challenging combat, there's really not a ton there for you, even most of the encounter design and bosses aren't really that standout either, it's mostly just the combat system itself.
>>724330047Go play Spider-Man or nuGod of War you fucking subhuman zoomer faggot. If you think Demon's Souls and Dark Souls had bad localization or poor balance or were poorly polished, then I highly doubt you've even played a game before 2010 in your life. The discourse around Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were that they were brutal, niche, hardcore, unforgiving games, they felt like truly underground games. No one thought they were janky or unpolished or poorly balanced, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. One thing Souls did particularly well *was* balance, there are tons of viable builds and even with powerfarming, you can't just trivialize the whole game and can still easily die if you make mistakes. 90% of JRPGs and action games out there are significantly more unbalanced.
>>724330559>YOU DEFEATED!You have never played Demon's Souls.You probably played the PS5 version.
My memory of playing Dark Souls for the first time was suffering through how badly the framerate breaks in Blight Town.
>>724330876Getting perpetually Flashbanged in dragon ass hell too
>>724325752A 10/10 game implies it has everything. So not just good gameplay but a good and well made presentation too.With that in mind, I don't think NG is a 10/10 simply because the soundtrack is low-mid. I'm not the biggest fan of Demon Souls's OST either but at least it feels like they tried. RE4 has some memorable tracks.I don't think I need to say anything about ALTTP.
>>724330715Yes, they actually updated the Dark Souls victory screens in a patch, the original Demon's Souls one was the best. >The Demon was Destroyed>You shall obtain the Demon Soul... and a power that is beyond human imaginationThis was badass as fuck. People were pissed they changed this in the remake, along with butchering with artstyle and OST of course. If you think that qualifies as a bad translation, you are an absolutely fucking delusional underage shitstain and have not played anything made before 2010.
>>724330876It really wasn't that big of a deal. People didn't cry and shit their diaper about framerate until midway through the PS4 gen.
>>724325752>console slop x4NoAdmittedly it's far better than most lists people would post for this kind of engagementbait.
>>724328915RE4 was only good on the Wii
>>724331582RE4 Wii was the easiest version of the game by far, not even talking about the Wii aiming, they massively neutered AI and encounters while flooding you with resources.
>>724331091Yeah, this is what I'm saying. A 10/10 is not just a game that you personally really really like.I like the early Souls games a whole lot, but man, those are not 10/10 games. RE4, maybe. I have to really strain to find problems with RE4. The question then is really whether or not a 10/10 game needs a bit of everything. Whether it needs to check every box. RE4 doesn't have multiplayer, for example. Should a perfect game always have multiplayer? Maybe. I don't know.A Link to the Past is just plain kind of a boring game, and I think they missed the appeal of Zelda pretty hard with that one. If you like combat gauntlet dungeons, parallel world gimmicks, and all of the exploring being done for you, knock yourself out, I guess.
>>724331680>the game that literally created the entire formula for Zelda>it missed the point of ZeldaI swear zoomers just say the most retarded shit
>>724331358As soon as you're saying "it wasn't that big of a deal", you're already conceding that the game isn't perfect.And yeah, it was kind of unacceptably shit. I got fucked over so many times in Blight Town, because the game just wasn't cooperating.
>>724331442lol pconry shit is trash you fat retarded faggot>generic western zogbot simulators copy pasted into ww2 or space settings>boring medieval proto-assfaggots>shitty multiplats that’s you’re usually better off emulating unless someone made a fan patch 2 decades after the game releasedPc gaming’s only purpose is to emulate superior n64 games, and it can’t even do that right.
>>724331243>flaky at best understanding of the English languageHow is that not a bad translation? Just because I like and think it's funny, doesn't mean it isn't bad.
>>724331873>I'm retarded!We know, anon, you don't need to tell us.
>>724329660If you play shmups for points past a fairly low level you're doing super autistic 1ccI don't think I've ever heard anyone say Gradius is their favorite though. It's only a meme because Namco corporate culture. Old time shmup autists are into Cave and Raizing.
>>724325752>calling it XWhat a good little bootlicker you are.Also: go the fuck back.
>>724331680ALTTP has some of the best exploration in the series. The future games are far more on-rails. Or are you just so retarded that you are conflating marking a few dungeons with the entire game being a straight line with no exploration. Hope you never check the manual or map including with Zelda 1 little buddy.
>>724326559And you probably believe you a woman as well. Get lost tranny
>>724331672Because you play RE games for the challenge
>>724331680There are no 10/10 multiplayer games, only 10/10 maps.
>>724329390There was a point when the idiots in /v/ actually played shit. It's zoomers watching videos of games like fucking losers. Any millennial could easily have played those 4 during adolescence.
>>724331913Even something as popular and well-renown as FF7 has a significantly worse translation and is full of far more engrish than Demon's Souls. Back in 2009, Japanese games still had some personality and weren't completely neutered when they released in the west. Not a single fucking soul back then saw >The Demon was Destroyed>You shall obtain the Demon Soul... and a power that is beyond human imaginationand thought "UGH! THIS GAME IS SO POORLY TRANSLATED!! WHAT AN UNPOLISHED PIECE OF SHIT!"Instead of opening your mouth and speaking about shit you know nothing about and weren't there for, just stick a shotgun in there instead.
>>724325752I wouldn't say they're the only ones but those definitely fit the bill.
>>724331243Also, bro, there are games way older than 2010, that are not as fucked as the early Souls games.Have you played DMC3? Have you played any of the Castlevanias? Have you played Half Life? I don't know, play games. Play Lemmings.
>>724325752only one of them is a true 10the others, sadly, aren't action games
>>724332186Unrelated response but I'm eternally salty they changed this with a patch.
>>724325752There are no 10/10 console games, you faggot.
>>724332186You're jumping the gun by assuming I think FF7 is a 10/10.I don't even really like Square games. They play boringly.
>>724331796That would be The Legend of Zelda. You know, the one that came out before A Link to the Past.
>>724332231>Devil May CryHas way more corny shit than Demon's Soulshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qG4AlK1qk>Castlevaniahas almost no writing/dialogue, it's a fucking action game where the story is a one minute video on the attract screen>Half-Lifenot even a fucking Japanese game, not even a foreign game at all. IT WAS MADE BY VALVE, IN THE FUCKING USA, IN ENGLISH. God, you are so fucking stupid. Shut the fuck up already you retarded clown. Still trying to act like the whole translation is bad because it said "YOU DEFEATED" as a victory overlay which was then patched shortly afterwards anyways. Then proceed to name every single one of the like five games you've played before 2010. So you genuinely are just an underage shitstain and 99% of your gaming was done post PS4 launch.
>>724332431Oh you mean the one where the sequel completely changed up almost everything the original did?No, you fucking retard, ALTTP was *the* blueprint for Zelda and was the foundation for every future game, arguably even including BotW/TotK.
>>724332029you play all games for that lil bwo
>Has way more corny shit than Demon's SoulsYeah, intentionally. It's called Kitsch. >has almost no writing/dialogueDidn't say it did. You can't judge a game by something it didn't do, can you?>not even a fucking Japanese gameI didn't say it was.The only problem with From Software games is not the funny translation, either. I could also point to elements of level design. How in that one part they just gave up and put like ten Capra Demons in a row. How there are ghosts that attack you through walls. I don't mind, because it's funny, but that's not something you see in a perfect game.
>>724332954>talking about localizations>mention Half-Life because you've only played 3 games before 2010 and that is one of them
>>724325752I haven't played any of these games
>>724332954Nigger, Half-Life is not localized or translated into English. It is MADE BY VALVE, AN AMERICAN STUDIO. What part of that do you not understand?
>>724333160We're not exclusively talking about localisations. Try to keep up here.a 10/10 game needs to be measurably good in every aspect of what it does. That should go without saying. If I can even say "the translation was kind of shit", that's not a 10/10 game. it's a 9, at best.Demon's Souls is like a 7, also.
>>724333253It's a better assembled game than Demon's Souls. Just in a general sense.It's not my fault none of you people can discuss things on my level of comprehension.
>>724333302>Demon's Souls loses a point because the translation isn't good>and my only example for that is a victory screen from Dark Souls (which, in case you weren't aware, is NOT Demon's Souls) that was shortly patched anywaysYou are such an absolute fucking retard. Kys already If Demon's Souls is a fucking 7/10, then what the FUCK would even come close to a 10/10? I've beaten 1000+ games, including almost all of the classics, and nothing comes close to Demon's Souls. Or is this only some subtractive rating system where you only remove points for the tiniest nitpicks but games that are extremely basic, simple, concepts are 10/10 as long as they execute them properly. Regardless of whether they are fun, or addicting, or immersive, or memorable, or thought-provoking, or unique, or innovative, or anything else, because literally ALL that fucking matters is that my game about putting a square peg in a square hole does what it says on the tin so 10/10 masterpiece. >>724333409>I am le enlightened brown retarded 14 year old who has only played 3 games before 2010lmao
>>724325752i do have to admit playing demons souls for the first time after playing all the other fromsoft souls games.. makes you realize that demons souls literally did everything first from gimick bosses (sword to pickup to fight against giant enemy) to poison swamps to level layout to curse basically every single gameplay thing in any of the souls games and elden ring.. was already done in demons souls..They literally sold us the same game like 5 times lol
>>724333792>If Demon's Souls is a fucking 7/10, then what the FUCK would even come close to a 10/10?idk. There probably isn't one. A 10/10 game is like the holy grail. It's an ideal to reach for, not a tangible object you can hold.The boring answer is Tetris, because it was such a perfectly realised concept right out of the gate, and people have been struggling to improve on it ever since.Name every game you've played from before 2010, and I'll tell you if I've played them.
>>724325752if would replace zelda with alundra
>>724325752I only agree with the top left.
>>724334042>the boring answerNo, the poser answer. The fucking retard who just says "Tetris" as an amorphous concept, not even knowing about the numerous versions and their multitude of differences, not even someone that actually has sat down and played Tetris for hours on end, not even someone that has any desire to actually play his claimed 10/10, someone just as oblivious to the hundreds of other arcadey type games out there with similar simple and intrinsic concepts that are well-executed and high skill ceilings. Just another virtue signalling clown regurgitating what other poser faggots say.
>>724334042>it was such a perfectly realised concept right out of the gatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0gAgQQHFcQStupid nigger zoomer.
>>724334532what's the problem?
>>724334406The fact that the best they can do to improve upon Tetris is add superfluous content, or tweak the mechanics in ways where half of the audience wont even notice, goes to show that it was pretty much perfect to begin with, doesn't it?There has never been a worthy Tetris 2. All you can ever do is iterate upon the original game. You can't beat it.
>>724335081Nigger just about every aspect of the game has been changed from how dropping works, to including or excluding hard drop, to how rotation works, to the axis of rotation, to how it deals with collision, to how the pieces are determined, to the size of the game field, to piece preview, to piece holding, to how scoring works, to how the game speeds up, to visuals, to sound, to different modes. What kind of retarded poser bullshit are you trying to spew right now? Literally the ONLY thing that has even stayed the same in Tetris is the pieces, and that's just because it's every possible shape you can make with four blocks. And then actually do have Tetris 2 and tons of Tetris variants, as well as things like Klax, Columns, Puzzle Bobble, Tricky Towers, etc.
>>724334042What about Klax? What about Columns? What about Donkey Kong? What about Pac-Man? What about Asteroids? What about Space Invaders? What about Geometry Dash? What about Beatmania? What about Bubble Bobble? What about Solomon's Key? What about Rainbow Island? What about Tiger-Heli? What about Put Round Peg in Round Hole Simulator? These are all 10/10 as well I'm assuming.
>>724335707So pick whichever version you think is the best, and declare that the perfect game.>>724335924A couple of them, maybe. If the thing is still endlessly entertaining, and there's little you can do to make it better, then yes.
>>724325752Replace NGB with RE1 and DS with Mario 64 and it's 100% accurate
>>724336141>endlessly entertainingSo every GaaSlop game is a 10/10, got it. You can't say "little to make it better", as that's subjective, but clearly they must be about as good as they can be because way more people are playing Fortnite, Minecraft, Roblox than that old arcade shit (including Tetris)
>an OP that is about xitter and "best games" is just a thread full of angry retardsDamn...shocker.
>>724336235>the game with the worst camera on earth>and some of the most bland and empty levels >that makes you replay each level 6 times>with some of the most nonsensical and frustrating physics >where you accelerate like a van, turn like a boat, ricochet off walls like a bouncy ball, struggle to walk up a slight incline, and with literal invisible walls scattered throughout levels>with a dozen different jump variants when all you want is a fucking camera that is actually looking where you're going instead of shoved up Mario's asshole >is somehow a true 10/10 and better than fucking Demon's SoulsMario 64fags are not fucking human, die.
>>724336585>So every GaaSlop game is a 10/10There's a point to be made. They've pinpointed an audience, and have given them absolutely everything they want.That would be a more accurate statement than saying Demon's Souls gives it's audience everything it wants. The fact that they were able to keep making more games, and keep improving parts of the design, goes to show it wasn't perfect, doesn't it?Demon's Souls didn't even have the plunging stab.Reminder: you are this mad at me, simply because I said Demon's Souls wasn't perfect.
>>724336843Didn't ask cameralet
>>724336954So the perfect game is now just all about what makes the highest percentage of profit, or what's the most popular? The complete polar opposite of what you just said about how mechanics are literally all that matters. Just keep digging that hole deeper and changing the goal posts on a whim instead of just admitting you're a poser full of shit.
>>724337151no, it's about reaching a peak from which you can no longer ascend from.
>>724336843>where you accelerate like a van, turn like a boat, ricochet off walls like a bouncy ball, struggle to walk up a slight inclineI was 8 yo when I played and beat this. Are you special needs or something, buddy?
>>724336235Great taste. I still vastly prefer the original Resident Evil over the GameCube remake
>>724337237>my game is about putting round pegs in round holes>I have succeeded. I have met my goal, I have reached my peak, I have nothing else to ascend from, I have finally made the true 10/10 >1 billion people bought shit-eating simulator and we have made ten gorillion profit>We have succeeded. We have met our goal, We have reached our peak, We have nothing else to ascend from, We have finally made the true 10/10 Holy shit you're a 14 year old wiz kid
>>724337438>>my game is about putting round pegs in round holes>>I have succeeded. I have met my goal, I have reached my peak, I have nothing else to ascend from, I have finally made the true 10/10Arguably, yes.
>>724337369That's not great taste. Those are both extremely popular mainstream and popular games that are massively overrated and beloved by retards (like both of you)It's like if someone made a thread about the best burger, and you replied "Great taste" to someone who said Burger King.
>>724337524>Arguably, yes.why are you so predictably cringe and midwit?
>>724337624Your problem is you don't understand I'm smarter than you are.Also, Demon's Souls isn't a perfect game, retard.
>>724325752I feel like old PC games never get enough respect in these conversations. I'd put Doom,X-Com or Diablo 2 easily over any of these games.
>>724337753OG Doom (as in no mods), isn't really *that* good. About half of the levels aren't amazing.Doom is more important for providing a platform from which endless amounts of entertainment was able to emerge.
>>724337684You are an ugly, stupid, poor, short, brown manlet subhuman. You are not even the same species.
>>724338249>being this mad because someone said Demon's Souls wasn't a perfect gameIt's really not though.
>>724325752>lttpmaybe>ngb8/10>re46/10 mid action game, not even top 4 for resident evils>ds7/10
>>724338358>10/10>perfectsmoothbrain moment
>>724338625That's implied, yes.What's the point of claiming something is a 10/10, unless it's functionally perfect? Just because you really really like the game?I really really like No More Heroes, and that game is borderline shit.
>>724325752Link to the Past and Demon's Souls are not 10s, most people on twitter never played any of these games anyway
>>724338898Demon's Souls is the best game there. Fuck off retard.
>>724339126Not even the best Souls game, none which are better than 8/10
>>724339209tendie manchild or gachapiggy, call it.
>>724339591low IQ
>>724339209Dark Souls 2 is a 9/10Dark Souls 1 and Elden Ring 8/10Demon Souls is about a 7/10 just a bit better maybe than Dark Souls 3. It's an important foundation for the later games but it's far from the best one
>>724340175>Demon's Souls lower than Dark Souls 1, 2, and Elden RingHoly shit you are a complete fucking retard subhuman
>>724340175DS2 KINGS, keep winning
>>724325752Only Ninja Gaiden Black and RE4 are 10/10 in that image.
>>7243263512008*ftfy
>>724325752tis some retarded bullshit.>Zeldadid not play, but if it like Genshin, it might be an 8/10 easily.>Ninja gaijin niggersif the latest slop is any indication, that the story and the mc are retarded as all fuck. 3/10 woke crap.>president eviloverrated pile of steaming shite. It's a pleb console quest larping as a ho ror. nuff said.>demo rollsbraindead turn based slop for console peasantry. shit is unplayable with how retardedly clunky it is and how much it takes the agency of taking actions from the player with all the stupid animations. It's like a bad PC game from 1994.
>>724341167>did not play, but if it like Genshin, it might be an 8/10 easily.please be bait, please tell me tiktok mutt kiddies aren't posting on /v/ now
>>724341274Nigger, I was playing DOOM and other golden games on PC while you were jerking you microdick off to crapdendo. And you still are a zombified cultist. Go shit your diaper, troonytoon.
I started noticing how many Japanese devs put ALTTP on a pedestal, referring to it as a hallmark in the medium. It's a really good game too, so it can stay there, sure.Ninja Gaiden Black is great as well. Wouldn't say it's a 10, it has some glaring issues but it's still really fun and I beating it on Master Ninja for the first time last year made me realize how good it is at making the player improve. It has true skill growth, the game isn't you realizing it's actually pretty simple but rather you just getting better. I liked that, it's a good game to beat at MN. Resident Evil 4 is very fun, it's my favorite to replay of these four games. RE4 is kinda weird with its approach to difficulty, it's adaptive but in a bunch of ways such as giving you more ammo drops while also lowering the enemy aggression and HP. I've seen my friends just brute force this game because it lets you, even if your rank at the end will be shit. It's a game you can break inside-out fairly easily if you know the strats but it's still fun using different guns and doing goofy stuff. Demon's Souls is an unfinished game so I don't think it should be a 10/10. Souls games are all great, and I think Demon's Souls has the best levels of them all even if they're all isolated. It's an RPG and the build variety is alright, but it's definitely the most experimental game on image with a lot of wacky mechanics, including the series staple invasions. Souls games are known for having an inconsistent quality throughout their runtime, but DeS is the most stable alongside Bloodborne. Though if I had to replace this with another Fromsoft game, it'd be Sekiro. Sekiro is also very consistent and is more finished than DeS.So in short, I'd keep ALTTP and RE4, then replace NGB and DeS. If I had to replace NGB with a game, I'd choose my favorite arcade racer F-Zero GX.
>>724341457>I'm 50 years old and think Demon's Souls is a perfect game, for some reasonNever played Castlevania 4 then?
