https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/microsofts-ambitious-new-xbox-your-entire-console-library-the-full-power-of-windows-pc-gaming-and-more>"Right now, I'm told the current plan is for the next Xbox specifically to have no paywall for multiplayer"So Xbox will have the more powerful console and be cheaper since you don't have to spend literally hundreds on multiplayer, and it'll even run PC games (including Sony games).
>>724327090Dropping the price for Xbox live won't do much because Sony will just copy them. Another win for Sony, easy.
>>724327090they're not gonna do that
>>724327090Xbros, we're frikkin back
>>724327090That probably means they're dropping Xbox Live and letting you play multiplayer via Steam or Epic's servers.
they are literally just going to sell prebuilt pcs....
>>724327090Oh boy. Now I can play all those amazing exclusive games that Xbox has without a subscription service!
>>724327090This thing is gonna be upwards of $1200, isn't it?
Not having to pay for online mp on PlayStation was great
This would be an homerun 10 years ago and not right after burning every possible bridge they had with the fans.
No shit, it's a PC.
>>724327090PC doesn't have paid multiplayer, the next EXbox is a PC.
>>724327090idgi, do you have to pay for Live or gamepass to play MP when using xbox for Windows? Or whatever it's called.
Would be the first time since inception that they wouldn't be charging for online, would be a great move on their part honestly since the other two caved and charge for online. They probably believe if they drop charging for xbl that people would still pay for gamepass which I don't doubt might even be doing it take a shot at Sony since they're raking in millions on PSN
>>724327704I'm pretty sure they're just making it a PC that can emulate older Xbox games so paid online isn't even an option for it.Plus right now, not many games are even a part of those paid online services. I'm pretty sure that anything free to play doesn't need you to have an active sub.
>>724327090>Xbox CEO Phil Spencer has been teasing for years what next-gen will look like for Xbox, as people wondered exactly how this strategy might pan out. Last week, Phil Spencer said that people should look to the Xbox Ally for an idea of where Xbox is headed.No shit, it's going to be a """console""" in the loosest sense of the word.
>>724327090I dont play online games. I only play single player games.
>>7243270901. Steam/EGS don't charge for online multiplayer, and they'd obviously prefer you to buy games for Xbox when possible. Really, the only reason Steam & EGS are on it in the first place is so Xbox users can have access to Playstation exclusives.2. Long time Xbox users have their balls stuck in the Game Pass vice either way, I don't expect dropping paid online is going to lead to a mass exodus of subs.
I always have my 360 hooked up, but I was feeling spicy and wanted to "jump in" to multiplayer like the good old days.These niggas... want to charge me $10 a month on the cheapest end to play dead 20 year games...
>>724327262Games don't even use Xbox servers for hosting do they? That's one thing I've always thought was the scammiest part of XBL and the PlayStation one.. you pay the console manufacturer to use someone else's servers. The only thing the console net services really give you is a friends list and party chat, it's like paying for a somehow worse version of discord.
>>724327090this gives me more reason to think it will be a PC at not a traditional console at all
>>724327090>"created" paid online>two decades later try to kill itWhat next, free horse armor?
>>724327090This would be huge!A shame next Xbox is gonna be digital only, so still better to just remain on PC and have all your games on Steam than trusting MS are not gonna end up dissolving Xbox and you losing your your digital games.
>>724327090>>"Right now, I'm told the current plan is for the next Xbox specifically to have no paywall for multiplayer"good but they can still go fuck themselves for introducing it in the first place, it's too little too late late and now they don't have enough market share to sway the competition into following suithell the only reason they're probably doing it is because they're on their backfoot, about to become a full third party publisher if their next console under performs and it causes confusion with the game pass branding after xbox live gold was turned into game pass core, if they were at the top there's no way in hell they would even consider it, this is just a desperate attempt to claw back some consumers
>>724328336Thats how retarded Xbots are. To this day Xbots swear the 360 had the best multiplayer. The death of Xbox and Xbots can never be late enough.
>>724328794Dreamcast had the first paid online. PS2 online was super shit, for many reasons, no universal account, no "network" so every publisher had to provide their own setup, etc. so the $50 for Xbox Live was worth it.It isn't like Microsoft rolled up and declared it, there were other factors.
They are removing it from multiplayer and moving it to be required to sign in and use the console at all.
So what does this mean for people still on 360/One/Series? They get shafted and still have to pay?
>>724327262>That probably means they're dropping Xbox Livekek this, they're just using flowery language and obfuscation
>>724329542>>724327262they already dropped the name "xbox live" a few years. now it's called xbox network or some other soulless shit
>>724328336Yep, and remember all the shit they talked about the "infinite power of the cloud" with the Xbox One?
>>724329318>>724329318>no universal account, no "network" so every publisher had to provide their own setup, etc. God, i want to go back to decentralized online for each game.
>>724329685they probably meant infinite surveillance and lack of ownership
>>724329318>no universal accountthis was a good thing
>>724329484Insignia replacement for XBL for OG XboxModded 360s can spoof goldEvery One/Series game is backwards compatible on the new gen so you can get free multiplayer no matter what generation games you want to play.
>"The next-gen Xbox from Microsoft will be a curated Windows gaming PC, complete with your full native console library"Any shot this means current Xbox games will work on regular PCs as well since there won't be a hardware limitation any more or will Microsoft find a way to fuck current Xbox owners one last time? I mean, I probably know the answer already...
>>724328334Shoulda known it was never free even during the good ol days. If you played an MMO then you had to pay two subs. For a short time when netflix first came, you also needed xbox live gold to use it even if you had a netflix subscription kek. Don't forget how microsoft points would always leave you with just a little bit left over after a purchase, so that the next time you top up on MSP and made a purchase you'd be left with just a little bit off of something else you might be able to purchase. They did that on purpose. Microsoft was always manipulative and greedy.
>>724327090Time for all the retards on here who said for years that ALL XBOX HAS TO DO IS MAKE ONLINE FREE AND THEY MAKE A COMEBACK AND WIN!!!!!!! to admit how wrong and retarded they are when this fails
>>724327090>embrace < you are here>extend>extinguishPC gaming is dead.
>>724327090>and it'll even run PC gamesYou clearly weren't paying attention. That's ALL that handheld plays. And knowing Microsoft, that's all the next "xbox" is going to do, as well. It'll just be a PC intended to be connected to a TV, only without the ability to fully customize and swap parts like a normal PC.
>>724327090That's actually a good thing, the only reason I bought nightreign on pc instead of my series x, was because of that
>>724328336Actually I think they do (or at least did), this used to be a big deal in the 360 generation. I specifically remember hearing on the Giant Bombcast that, for example, EA had to make different arrangements for PS3 game hosting because Microsoft took care of it themselves on their end.I wouldn't be surprised if that's in the past now though, the new consoles have an assload of cores that I doubt get fully utilized if PC is anything to go by.
>>724330150xbox is already dead, any hypothetical thing they should have done 10 years ago is irrelevant.
>>724327356The price was already announced like a month ago. It's $1000.;
>>724330285A pc but with a soldered hard drive to ensure planned obsolescence like the ps5.
>>7243283363ds and wiiu had servers online even from 3rd parties until nintendo shut down their system, so dunno
>>724327090Did those faggots say anything about bringing their backwards compatibility emulator to PC?
>>724327090paid online has completely ruined console gaming for me, I'm never going to buy another one as long as they charge me to use my own internet. without it I would have carried on buying consoles because I like physical media and couch gaming.
>>724329318The Dreamcast had an ISP you could subscribe to but if you had your own ISP, it was free to use.
Paid online makes absolutely no sense, when the highest profiting console game right now is a free 2 play game that relies entirely on micro transactions, which doesn't require subscription to play online
>>72432709010 years too late, this will have no effect
>>724330710Capitalism, ho.People were ready to play dark souls on xbox with paid online, instead of experiencing horrors of free online of des again(but Miyazaki was step ahead and forced you to connect to chinks no matter the console)
>>724330150You can save what is dead, they are dropping pay online because the next xbox is going to be a PC
>>724330808It makes sense if people are willing to pay for it and it makes the platform holder (Nintendo/Sony/MS) money.
>>724330150this generation had started 5 years agoMicrosoft bought the biggest 3rd party AAA publishers and their games have been flopping since
>>724329318Dreamcast in 1998 was truly ahead of its time>Support for Sega's own fast/streamlined/documented SDK or Windows CE (to make porting games from the PC easier)>Hitachi SH4 chips>PVR on Dreamcast was much better than PSX GPU>Rarely-used volumetric per-pixel shadows and volumetric fog features>Order Independent Transparency and is the only system to date that came with OIT at the hardware level>16MB of RAM>Native VGA out support>independent filesharing between memory cards without the console needing to be present>a large (again, for the time) optical disc format that stored up to 1GB of data>Plans to download Dreamcast games directly to the 40GB HDD, a feature that Xbox 360 realized>Modern game controller is heavily inspired by Dreamcast
>>724330938There's a good chance people will spend more on microtransaction than they will on subscription, once they're hooked.Consoles are the toys for old people now
>>724331093And there are people who will spend on subscriptions and MTX and do it all on a premium priced game.
>>724328336The real question is: who is to blame for this? Not just charging for online but not even providing central servers, effectively just charging you for the act of port forwarding (or I guess call directing or whatever the fuck it would be back in the days before NAT Routers and you had dial-up modems).Earliest I know of was SegaNet, which just directly connected players without a central service, but details are vague about the actual service charges and which games actually required the subscription
>xbox's final hail mary is just the steam machine but likely far worse because microsoftlol
>>724331231The point is that PS Plus / Xbox Live don't have to be about paid online. They can give other benefits, such as cloud saves (lol) and "free" games, like the original PS Plus on PS3 did.
>>724330346Another Xbot fell for M$ propaganda lmao
>>724331272>The real question is: who is to blame for thisSony, for providing online so bad, that paying for xbox live felt like viable solution.Of course you are too young to know that.
>give up competing with playatation>try to compete with steam nextMan...they need to choose better battles.
>>724327090>we need a 30% increase in profit margin!>I know! Stop our recurring subscription!
>>724331391The point is that people keep buying PS Plus/Xbox Live/Nintendo Switch Online for paid online and it keeps making a lot of money. So Sony/MS/Nintendo will keep selling it. Although I guess MS may be giving it up, but I'm skeptical that'll actually happen.
>>724330710To me Paid Online was essentially a scam to lower the entry price of the hardware compared to a PC to make you pay it off plus extra over the years of subscriptions.That's why PC is always worth the higher up front cost.
>>724327090This means Steam is eating their lunch. Great!
>>724327294Which is what I've been saying they should do for years. PC gaming is objectively superior, with the one caveat of it being harder to set up for the average normgroid than plugging in a power cord and hdmi.
>>724331450GOW is infamous for having the worse mp despite only being something like 3v3 lmao
>>724327090>another damage control article from Jez "professional Microsoft cocksucker" Corden
>>724331030>was truly ahead of its timeFuck no. The Dreamcast was 100% of its time. That's precisely what killed it: it was an awkward premature ejaculation that bore the fruits of being 4 years after the launch of the 5th Gen but only 2-3 years before the true 6th Gen consoles. It's the exact level of hardware and performance you'd expect for a machine that has those gains but is awkwardly just before the true leap forward. It is 100% the 1998 console; it encapsulates everything about that.Everything about it says "we fucked up so hard with the Saturn that we had to launch too early to save our asses, and being 80% of a 6th Gen console wasn't enough when the PS2 got announced a year later"
>>724331429I've never been in the same room as an xbox, consolenigger
>>724331745>Jez CordenShit, didn't even noticed, nvm then.
>>724331450Has time really progressed far enough that children such as yourself think you're oldfags for being around for Xbox Live? Have some self-awareness for christ's sake and recognize the greater analysis that's being posited, or better yet just kill yourself and save us all some time.
>>724331030Modern controller is basically PSX's Dual Analog with vibrations (which is DualShock) and analog triggers
>>724327090>+10 on software>+10 on hardware>+10 on devkits>+10 on subscriptions>-5 on multiplayerGUYS XBOX IS THE GOOD GUYS, THEY'RE REMOVING PAYWAY ON MULTIPLAYER
>>724330161Good. Hail Microsoft.
>>724331604The business model was always taking a portion of the retail ecosystem, not the online fee. They subsidised consoles before adopting the online scam. PC's weren't actually worth the higher upfront cost till consoles started charging for online, at which point it became the option for retards with no long term thinking capabilities.
>>724331030How dare you compare the PowerVR GPU to the PS1 GPU, that thing was way better than the PS2!
>>724329318kys
>>724330150Unironically it could save Xbox still especially if Sony still pushes paid online.
It doesn't have a paywall because it's literally a PC. It's going to be a non-portable Rog Ally that fits next to your TV.
>>724331450PS3's online was fucking fine, xnigger. It's still free to this day and had games like MAG where a fuckton of people could play at once. Your cancerous company popularized paid online because nintendo and sony saw they could get money for literally nothing.
>>724332860>it's perfectly fine that there was a massive outage in 2011 where everyone's passwords and credit card info stored in plain text files was stolen
>>724332619>>724332860OG Xbox is x86, Xbox 360 is PowerPC, Xbox One is x86 Xbox has always been a Windows PC
>>724333135blah blah blah nigger, it was still free and we got infamous and LBP in exchange. The 360 was the only console charging you to use your own internet, remember when microsoft forced valve to monetize l4d maps? Good times. Glad xbox is dead.
>>724327090>dont name the new xbox something retarded>position it as a premium status thing with features and leading specs>dont split it up into two systems that make it a pain in the ass for devs and confusing for customers>exclusives!! you bought a bunch of fucking studios, use them. stop putting everything on fucking gamepass>stop making people play for multiplayer, everyone knows its a scam and sony + nintendo are doing it only because you pioneered itand they would be back in business
>>724327294Consoles, yes
>>724327090XGods can't stop winning
>>724333135>says the retard from his windows pcHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA NIGGER>>724333307>microsoft is pcyou dont understand the pc thing nigger
>>724331863shut up m$ cocksucker
>>724330150>who said for yearsYeah retard, it's been years. They were too late. Do you struggle with the concept of time or something? I pray jeetland gets nuked every day.
I can see this working. PSN is ridiculously expensive. If the ads are: we’re free, PSN and NSO are paid. I could see that stealing many people, namely parents. Xbox coming back????
>>724330161>tfw everything suddenly becomes window store exclusive, only runs on windows, and windows has built in anti piracy measures
>>724327090>Popularized paid online>Drop it later and try to act like the good guyFuck Xbox and Microsoft
>>724334017No parent is going to buy a 1500 US dollar console.
>>724334017Free online means nothing if your new Xbox costs over $1000, and you need to buy all your games again, or subscribe to Game Pass for a ridiculous price.
completely wrong optics to go the route of "we dont do exclusives anymore!" and then after go "we are going free online"
>>724330808The sub fee to play certain games is probably killing them and stopping them from taking off as much as they could have otherwise. IIRC Helldivers 2 did better on PC and that's probably because there's no sub to play it on PC.
>>724334017Not happening and you can't even trust Microsoft to keep their word about anything. These people are pathological liars and they will start charging again within a year.
>>724327090Oh that's because the next Xbox will be called PS5/6, Switch 2, and Steam. Xbox won't be charging you to play multiplayer. Sony and Nintendo will in their place.
>>724327090Of course they're dropping it, because the next Xbox will be a PC with an Xbox sticker.
>>724327090This is a great thing, all games should have crossplay
>>724331272>The real question is: who is to blame for this?The retards who eat that shit in the first place, if they did like pc users with "games for windows live", no one would be charging for the online.
>>724327090>xbox brings storefronts, DLC, paid online and suscriptions bullshit first>eveyone ends up copying them>xbox fucking dies>the damage they did prevailsXbox getting into gayming was the biggest disaster in gayming history
Xbox roggin it up
>Fail miserably at the console race>Now proceed to fail against steam for the platform raceMan, at least this timeline will be entertaining.
This makes me think that this is literally going to be a PC with no backwards compatibility with native xbox games. People can keep speculating that it will play xbox games, but all of the evidence so far is to the contrary.
>>724337405Microsoft store is genuinely the worst storefront I've ever used. Nobody is fucking buying games on this thing. I'd rather use EGS than this garbage because at least EGS kinda works.
>>724337626I doubt it'd be that hard for microsoft to make a compatibility layer for xbox games on pcs.
>>724337405don't forget their current attempt at the handheld race
>>724337967That´s just an ally with xbox logo, like the 8bitdo controllers. If they manage to release a true xbox console, it will launch with probably 0 games, unless they make said portable an xbox series S and make ALL the games there to be able to run on the portable.
>>724338283They might have gotten away with a handheld Series S if it had come out this year. Now they're going to have to do what Sony is doing and release a very lower power PS6.
Honestly this "console" sounds great but it'll be expensive. I'll buy it though. I have tons of xbox games in my back library and one machine that plays it all and can also function as a PC is fucking great. Now for Sony to do the same thing.
>>724329318Xbox bad the first paid online that didn't kill a console and actually won that gen and the one after it (GameCube and ps2 copers need not reply)
>>724337626Two "sources" claim Xbox emulation is in development (one is Jez). If true, it will probably be used here.
>>724338641>hat plays it all and can also function as a PCMicroshit is not gonna leave it´s device open for you to tinker with it, hell, they would lock your pc if they could be able to.
>>724327090>and it'll even run PC games (including Sony games).So basically, you're buying a very expensive PC with less performance. Cool.
>>724337626There are experimental Xbox One emulators, which are 99% held back by the fact the system took 13 years to *partially* hack. You think Microsoft, who controls Xbox and Windows, is going to not have a compatibility layer for Xbox native games?
>>724338824The report says its running bog standard windows with a console UI on it. They aren't going to restrict you and they have no reason to.
>-Next Xbox basically a PC which could run other stores>-Will feel like a tradional console>-Also will nativley run the games currently available on Xbox Series>-This includes BC games>-Plans to have no MP paywallGTA 6 welcome to PC. Rockstar loses again.
>>724339117So as >>724338871said, a very expensive PC with """"console""" frontend. HOLY SHIT, I had the new XBOX machine in my home all this time already!!!
>>724329089>the 360 had the best multiplayerIt did. It is the only platform out of the PS3, 360, and PC to have games like Singularity or the Assassin's Creed multiplayer modes to actually have people playing past the first week. I remember buying Singularity like a year or two past release and I was still able to join games on it. TF2 on The Orange Box still had full games even before they did the sole patch it got. You also tended to get fairly stable games, I don't think I ever once had latency issues on the 360 but on the PS3 for Resistance 2, DeS, and LBP I regularly had people lagging.
>>724339243Define expensive? It's going to be cheaper than most gaming PCs because it's an APU and will use system ram as VRAM like a console does. So cheaper but worse in the ways you expect. And they've already said you'll be able to install the windows full screen experience on to all Windows devices.
>>724327090sounds great except A) who gives a shit anymore xbox as a platform is dead, and B) next year you will need to provide ID to play online on xbox, so it's double dead
>>724327090They can't paywall multiplayer anymore because it's going to be a literal PC (probably with forced Secure Boot that only recognizes Microsoft CAs so no way to install Linux).
>>724327090>$1500You'll be a fool for buying this, if you were smart, you would get a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2. There is nothing exciting about PlayStation or Xbox anymore, move on, you're never getting your 7th generation back.
>>724338824The rumors are going around that it's going to be both a PC and an Xbox, and not in the "This is an Xbox" kind of way but you can play the PC side or the Xbox side interchangeably. They have to do it that way because your library gets cut by 3/4ths on the ROG Xbox Allies when you filter to what PC can play and they still want to retain their Xbox userbase so having access to Xbox games is a draw. The only way this doesn't happen is if they make some sort of translation layer that allows every PC to run Xbox games as a whole which I don't think they'd do. I just don't see it.
>>724327090>So Xbox will have the more powerful console and be cheaper since you don't have to spend literally hundreds on multiplayerwhy are you acting like Microsoft didn't INTRODUCE this fucking model and then popularise it with Xbox Live?PS3 had free internet until the 360 proved you zoomer retards will pay for online anyway so then Sony followed suit with paid online for the PS4
>>724340767That already kinda exists. Xbox games already run in a virtualised layer on console anyway which is windows so there'd be little effort for them to get it to work on desktop windows. 360 emulation on xbox one is a similar concept. https://youtu.be/ufRwW-BVuUU?si=n9HctohyZNByPyby
>>724327174>Another win for SonyNo, because gamers would then be able to recognize that that's just a way for Sony Interactive Entertainment to stay afloat in this hyper-competitive market. This company already lost the moment they let themselves be infiltrated by the kind of people who attend feminist or LGBT pride marches, who care much more about their neomarxist, globalist activism based on the diversity-equity-inclusion model that organizations like the W.E.F. and the U.N. push, rather than video games themselves, how they should be and what these represent to so many people internationally who don't adhere to their political and spiritual madness.If you take a look at both the Playstation Network's terms of service document, and Xbox's equivalent, you'll hopefully be able to see that the latter is more reasonable and doesn't contain an orweillian "hate speech" policy, nor is Xbox as strict with this kind of stuff.
>>724327294Not what the article says. It mentions all games that work today would work on the new one, since the Xbox uses x86 since the One, it doesn't sound too far fetched.
I'm so sick in tired of hearing about rumors regarding the PS6 and next Xbox, /v/ needs to become exclusively news about the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2. All discussions regarding PlayStation and Xbox hardware needs to be banned along with their annoying ass shills who refuse to accept that their shitty consoles success was nothing more than a lightning in a bottle.
>>724337080Dingus, that's not the question at all. It's a question of who truly was the first to establish it, not what normalized it. Baka degozaru
>>724327090so how are they making up the 30% mark up whilst losing another revenue stream?
>>724341435>muh culture war bullshitShove it up your ass
>>724328794>"created" paid online
They're not just going to give up the subscription model. Something besides multiplayer will be behind the paywall this time.
>>724345750Game pass isn't going to stop, they'll just make it slightly worse over time
>>724345750the games are more expensive and so are the dev kits so they don't need to offer paid online.
>>724327090This is one of those things that read like "And that's a good thing"unless you actually play online games then you realize that this is definitively not good.The paywall acted as a deterrent of sorts which made online games, namely Dark Souls, GTA and Call of Duty, significantly more potable than their PC counterparts. This entry barrier did not stop hacking 100% but enough so you could play games on a better environment plus the general audience was LESS sweaty. What this is saying is that with that protection gone, this new "Xbox" is just essentially a Steam Deck with all the implications, and Xbox Store games on PC are very susceptible (See the COD WWII RCE fiasco of this year). So this is further confirmation of Microsoft capitulating as a whole.Absolutely no one is going to use the MS store, no one does so in Windows, much less when the device in on itself suggests you to install Steam.Furthermore, as hated as Xbox Live Gold was, it was better than the model MS is currently using.That service was passively generating income for them, and Xbox Live threw you a decent game every other quarter for sticking with it. That game you got to keep.It genuinely was better for them than the Gamepass.Gamepass gives Disney+ a run for its money as the single worst idea ever thought by an executive.The destruction of Microsoft can be easily explained by the existence of the Gamepass.MS is regressing to the 90s, abandoning gaming.The rumor that Xbox as a brand will be sold to Valve is more believable with each headline.It is uncertain if MS as a whole has a future given than Linux is the most widespread system of all times.Chrome OS could take over any day if Google was not pants on head retarded.
>>724327174>because Sony will just copy themSony should absolutely drop the multiplayer paywall. it goes against their own games. do you want to play Helldivers2? yeah pay for both the game and the paywall which inevitably limits the player base. you can't expect gamers to pay twice if you want to establish strong service type games. same goes for Marathon.
>>724327090can i just play xbox gta6 on my pc yet
Insiders are already saying Jez is full of shit here, stating this fat bong is confusing Xbox "console" with Xbox "PC". Next gen Xbox will just be the Xbox full screen experience without the Windows desktop but will have the game launchers.
>>724346049if you're that desperate to waste money on paid online then just buy a playstation, there will always be a company willing to take your retarded money.I have no idea why valve would want anything to do with the xbox brand, its a liability. The deck is a niche prototype and has sold around 5 million copies, the entire xbox console series this gen has only sold 30 million. They are better off just continuing with their own branding.
>jez corden
>>724346049kys
>>724341787Steam deck 2 is very far away from launching. Legit 2028 tier.
>>724346630as a matter of fact the steam deck specifically exists as a trojan horse to make linux gaming palpable for people in case microsoft sharts the bed and locks down windows too much.
>>724346117Sony dropping the paywall would make the PS5/Ps6 almost ps3 tier. A lot of people would happily stay on Sony if they did that.
>>724341787>talking about a console i dont like? >banned!K.
>>724347793Okay but why brownie?Or is that your automatic answer when someone says anything other than based you little semen slurping nincompoop?I can smell your melanin infested shit skin from here.
>>724347869we're almost in 2026. 2 years wait is honestly not that far.
>>724327090>thread about Xbox going with free multiplayer>snoys seething uncontrollably in the replies
>>724341787kys>>724346630>>724347793>i play gacha with ring 0 drm so I dunno lolKys does not cut it.In fact I could not even count on you to do it right, so I want you both to specifically throw yourselves in front of a train. India has trains right?
>>724347982Retard.
>>724327090>consoles are finally just becoming PCsThank god.
>>724348032>>724348261kys
>>724348094Well, the Ps6 and next Xbox will also be releasing in that time frame so it's only fair game to discuss them as well. A passing of the time if you will.
>>724348190>brownoid whenever he sees the word "free".What this means is that you have the SAME experience as anyone else on PC for online games since MS is simply announcing the dead of Xbox Live / Basic Gamepass as a whole.Which means that you can expect anything that did rely on MS services to shut down next.
>>724347869>>724348094Medusa Point, so probably 2027 which fits with Valve announcing hardware next year.
>>724348397Sure, but you do it first so I will know how to do it right.
its interesting to see xbox subhumans always actively argue against their own interests.doesnt matter if its paid online that doesnt give you any benefits at all or microsoft selling overpriced controllers that dont even come with battery packs.model shiteater customers xbox bred there.
>>724341435Yeah nah
>>724327183The next Xbox is a PC, so yeah they need free MP cause 99% of purchases will be on Steam anyways
If the device costs more than the fucking competition no one will care.I honestly don't think people would care anyway, they fucked up bad, most people have converted over to another platform ecosystem, why would they want to go back
no
>>724348334>hide the thread? Noo, thank you. I rather join it and act like a Karen.
>>724349186Kys Retard.
>>724327183They are. It is all about China. The only area of growth for Microsoft's user base in recent years is from PCs used for Free to Play games in Net Cafes. Microsoft wants to make money off that market, and their solution is ad supported computing. They'll make you sit through 5, or 10 minutes of ads an hour and their game platform will be aware of the ad breaks. Other game platforms like Steam will have to play catch up to support that new 'feature' so it doesn't break their user experience.So there won't be a hard paywall, but there will be a fee to opt out of ads.
>>724349186>>724349478The both of you will be my VICTIMS come Halloween night. Be scared now. Be very scareeeeeed. my name Jeff
PUT RARE REPLAY ON PC DAMMIT
>>724348860Your two-word comment doesn't make it clear what you're specificlly disagreeing with or why, but you get what you'll tolerate, especially if you don't mind having globohomo propaganda shoved down your throat when turning on a video game console because the manufacturer bent the knee to Blackrock's financing or something.
>>724327294Good, more PC fags means more pirate niggers, more pirate niggers equals even less sales, even less sales means layoffs, layoffs means negroid women get laid off and fired. Industry crashes, whites regain game production, gaming returns to 2002-2015 production era.
>>724351329Man shit yo honky ass up cracka before I shut dat shit up wit my Xbox PC.
>>724351615>White regain game production Um, I think you mean Asians. Asians are why gaming was ever good to begin with.
>>724327090>"I'm told">Jez CordenXbox niggers will actually believe this
>>724351329>"You are stupid">Posts more word diarrhea>"I am clearly smarter because I type more words">Can't get a clueYeah, nah.You are like retarded, dude.
>>724344150>tries to gaslight me like a shameless liar regarding this topic>calls my denouncing of the bullshit "bullshit">posts unnecessarily and extremely rude comment contributing nothing to the conversationWhat's your problem?! What got you so upset about my previous comment? No, I won't do anything like that! But since you seem to be defending people such as those in picrel like an ally or a fellow cult member, maybe you're the one who will do something like that later on.I'm just denouncing this bullshit as someone whose first console was a PSX and who accepted a different, more reasonable, more sane ToS contract back in 2015-ish. I didn't start the culture war whose existence you seem to have denied. As if you cared about Playstation's decadence in the West or real gaming culture.
I love outlets and normies talking about the new Xbox like it's not just a Windows 11 PC. >WHOA! No paid Multiplayer!>WHOA! You can Install Steam on XBAWK!!>WHOA! Datamined Battlenet Launcher for XBAWKS!!!!>WHOA! Hi-Poly Feet Mesh and detailed 8k Foot Textures for XBAWWWWKS!!!It's all so Tiresome.
>>724351712Hello Chang, I do not play Starcraft or JRPGs, I play Western games, and we're all made by Whites and maybe a couple Asians here and there in a company. I don't dislike Changs tho.
>>724352427The worst part is I expect the pre-One backwards compat to be abandoned next generation. Xbox just goes "we couldn't keep doing that past 2021, so sorry, it's gone." When in reality it's probably because the next thing will be an AMD Windows 11 computer so they literally can't be assed to expand the emulators they created beyond the Xbox One/Series operating system.
>>724327090Dude, it's a portable PC, not a console.Of course it can't have a multiplayer paywall unless you're paying something like Battle.net or some shit like that.
>>724352764>Survival horror>Every good game ps1 game>MARIO>virtually every 9/10 game>Sonic>Anime/manga (gigantic influences)>UmenaroFool. Know your place before you speak out of turn.
>>724352836Are you retarded? Numerous reliable leakers have exposed that Microsoft are making the xbox og and 360 emulators for next gen xbox on windows
>>724352764>Hello Nigger. [....] I don't dislike Niggers though.
>>724352293Not him but when it comes to WEF Globohomo shit both Microsft and Sony are all in on it. They both celebrate pride month and Microsoft has its hands in all kinds of world destroying bullshit. They even made it part of their developer guidelines not to include sexy women in games. They're the reason why games have Type A and Type B "body types" instead of sexes and a number of other bullshit. Really I would say Microsoft is the worst because I havent heard of any Sony executive injecting Africans with experimental drugs to sterilize them against their will.
>>724353310It depends what kind of Chang, I don't like Chinks but Koreans and Japs are okay.
>>724352234Who or what are you talking about? Are you ok? Do you think online arguments are won by means of fallacies and insults, and lacking reading comprehension or basic human decency?
>>724327090>Right now, I'm told the current plan is for the next Xbox specifically to have no paywall for multiplayerthey've been saying this for 10 years and it never turned out true, they make too much money from retards paying twice for their internet
>>724329318>so the $50 for Xbox Live was worth it.lollmaopc had free online long before xbox existed
>>724328794Um sorry sweety but real Onlineheads used Xband.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_5M-z_RUKAMy favorite part about this documentary is that even in the mid 90s with people going online for the first time, gamers almost immediately and exclusively use the messaging system to call each other slurs
>>724354985Why does that logo look like starlink?
>>724353728incredible specimen, reckon 'bout 250 pounds
>>724355063Because Elon is obsessed with the letter X
sony makes all their money from ps plus, no way in hell will they drop it
>>724327090This would be the worst thing they could do. People don't mind paying for multiplayer, they loved the 360. Nobody had an issue with it besides sony fanboys (who are now doing it too).No way they will or should do this.
>>724349751>gamepass failed>no one wants to play our woke trash>fuck it just make them pay a subscription fee to avoid ads
>>724349751Why steam would do that shit? They are just sellers of games.
>>724327090That would be a huge move and they can afford it with how self sustainable and profitable they are.People are hooked on gamepass so it's not like they a lot of subs anyway.
>>724349751>Steam will have to play catch up>Have been letting you play online without a sub for 20 years alreadySounds like Xbox is 20 years behind.
>>724349751>Other game platforms like Steam will have to play catch upMan, Xbots are on a whole other level of delusional, lmao
>>724327090I fucking hate xbox fans so much, why do they all talk like investors and co-pilot automated accounts when defending the platform. You are getting SEGA'd right now and you're still defending them?
New info on the next-gen Xbox rumored to be $1000-1500 coming in 2027- High end & expensive- No paywalled multiplayer- Will offer a console UI but is a full Windows device.- Will offer Steam & access to all Steam games- Backwards compatible with all Xbox games
>>724355636people will mind when they can buy a steam version of the same game on the same console and play online for free. paid multiplayer doesn't exist on pc and people expect it to continue to not exist on the pc platform. this next gen xbox by all accounts is just a windows 11 pc with some console specific optimisations like the UI and hardware for running back compat games as per todays leak.
>>724327090no shit, it's a fucking windows pc, imagine if they tried to paywall your internet on a fucking windows pc
>>724358424I'll buy it. It seems to cover all the basis of console experience with PC freedom. I use a PC with a TV and bluetooth controller currently and it does have it's drawbacks compared to like SteamOS or a console experience. Even better if MS can get devs to make "Xbox" presets for games like they do with Steam deck presets in some games. It really will be the PC console plug and play experience. I hope the future of consoles is this honestly
>>724358424Bullshit, retard, Kepler and others are already shitting on Jez for this, it doesn't even align with Bond's statement. Next Xbox will have full BC and Game Launchers but it WILL NOT have the Windows desktop. The fatass bong got Xbox Console confused with Xbox PC. Also, a first party Xbox handheld isn't happening unless this Xbox console is successful or doesn't get canned before release. It's also Microsoft Store exclusive, it won't be sold in retailers.
>>724358876>Keplera literal who hardware guy. he doesn't know shit about xbox and never has
>>724358918Neither does the fat bean eating bong. Fucker is just on the Ambassadar program, lol.
>>724359104jez corden is basically a microsoft employee. you couldn't be more wrong
>>724359165God, you're retarded, Xbot. I thought when that major Xbox is going third party and shifting to OEM leak happened in Dec 2023, that was a load of bullshit and that no Xbox exclusive was EVER coming to PlayStation, I mean that's what my fat buddy Jez Corden me.
>>724358424>Will offer Steam & access to all Steam gameswhy not buy a PC?
>>724359418*told
>>724359435Better yet, a Steam Deck 2
>>724359418jez opinion on twitter = /= exclusive articles
>>724359435it is a pc
>>724359821with DRM and bloat and unable to upgrade it and you cant choose what parts you want with it, why the fuck would you not get a PC over this for the price? PC players wont get it, xbox players wont get it because why would you no exclusives, game pass was for people who couldnt afford many games none of this is good lol microsoft is so lost at this point
>>724359752And his exclusive article is full of holes, he claims the Xbox first-party handheld is still a thing, Tom Warren, who's more accurate, outright says it's canceled, other insiders have said there is no first party Xbox handheld, in terms of a current first-party Xbox handheld since leaked docs are only showing a home console Magnus APU, it means a cutdown variant of that chip will only be made and paired with an AT3 GPU if this piece of shit is even remotely successful. Microsoft can't make a full Windows PC console because if they do, it'll be a licensing chaos that will lead to massive lawsuits from third parties. Stop being an Xbot for 5 seconds and wake up to reality, dumbass. Jez is a massive shill, nothing more.
Sorry but still not paying for gaymes or xbox game pass.Heroic Games Launcher just werks and is open source.
>>724327183they already made the decision. The next xbox is going to basically be a windows PC that hooks up to your tv in line of the rog ally x
>>724353310Nigger is a term of affection around these parts.
>>724360067Show me where Tom Warren rebuked Jez today. DF sources have said there's a handheld and several "consoles" in the works. And that makes sense because MS literally announced a multi-chip deal with AMD. This is the best thing that can ever happen to consoles and it's all looking real.> Stop being an XbotI own a PC and PS5 dumbass. I'll happily replace the PS5 with a console that can run Windows and Steam.
>>724360319Not him, they're not and you're still going to have to pay. Jez is confusing Xbox Console with Xbox PC. Bond said the experience will be curated, meaning no Windows desktop, it'll be locked down but with access to installable Game Launchers. It's the only way they can actually do backwards compatibility with OG Xbox-Xbox Series.
>>724360489>Show me where Tom Warren rebuked Jez todayHe rebuked him months ago regarding that fabled first-party Xbox handheld. But take heed, this was the Xbox-ONLY handheld using ARM, not this new one. Also, your first-party Xbox devices being PCs is because access to Game Launchers, it will not have Windows desktop, saying otherwise is disingenuous.
>>724361171They won't use ARM in a machine like this. It's no surprise that got canned. Would be nice to see the results of their research though, and maybe a prototype machine one day. Because I think ARM will eventually become a big thing for these TV PC's and handhelds, but maybe another decade or so.>it will not have Windows desktopIt probably will but through dual booting.
>>724361369No point in dual booting if you already have the launchers pre-installed. There will be freedom, but limited freedom, Microsoft isn't Valve.
>>724361171It was never going to be arm for backwards compatibility issues. It probably is like Kepler said. Amd wanted a commitment for 10 mil and Microsoft went lol no thanx.
>>724361525Valve isn't letting Microsoft pre-install Steam on a console. And neither will Microsoft want to do that either. This is straight up sounding like a typical Windows PC but with a console UI but with the ability to dual-boot and install Steam games, and those games will show up in your Xbox UI. Or they just straight up allow you to open up a desktop while in the console UI. One thing that's been consistent with all these leaks is the ability to use this as a PC. It's talked about as a PC more than it is as a console.
>>724361687Most likely
>>724361171>it will not have Windows desktopDoesn't need it as the ally x shows, you can run everything from full screen experience and it works just like you'd expect.
>>724361713It's using the Xbox full screen experience so it's basically Windows but locked down but not as locked down as previous Xbox consoles.
>>724361768Exactly
>>724327090>xbox really is just becoming a pc and microdick keeps denying that xbox hardware isn't getting cannedhmmm
>>724362012Yes but you still need a way to install the 3rd party storefronts. Microsoft won't pre-install it, Valve won't put Steam on the Microsoft Store, which also means they'll need the ability to:1. Download stuff via a browser2. Install apps how you'd typically install them on Windows (like Steam)So the idea that this is just a console with Steam doesn't cover how Steam will be downloaded, installed, etc. And it being a locked down machine like a current console doesn't make sense in the context of being able to install 3rd party apps and games.
>>724341787if we're banning consolecuckery your tendie toys are not getting a pass lmao
>>724327090>Gamepass price is gay and not worth it anymore>Halo, Gears and soon Fable will be on PlayStationWhat is the point even
>>724362296I don't understand how this shit is going to work, I guess dual booting it is
>>724327090>>724327174This: It's way too late for them, it should have been in the Xbone era. But most importantly>implying Xbox is going to get rid of the one wall that gives them any reliable money despite never being profitable as a brandThey're going to shove ads up the ass. >>724327294>>724360319That has been Xbox since day 1, anon. Shit even runs a contained version of windows. There is no change, just advertised as if>>724329326That's not a monkeypaw; that's the endgame MS wants and consumers have fell at every turn so it's inevitable.
>>724327294They already have since x86 was introduced in eighth gen consoles
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>>724329326>>724362553>/v/'s face when you have to buy a console in order to play it
>>724328110Consoles were always just another type of computer. They're a holdover from an era where not every computer was an IBM clone running x86. Amiga, Atari ST, muh Speccy, Nintendo, Sega, Macintosh, Acorn... most of the others died, the video game-specific platforms managed to carve a niche by being dirt cheap. of course, Windows drones went into a meltdown that Microsoft-IBM didn't score a total monopoly and have spent 30 years seething about how "PC is totally better, just abandon those old dead platforms and come to Windows, don't ever use anything other than Microsoft -approved platforms!"
>>724340258>They can't paywall multiplayer anymore because it's going to be a literal PC>implying Windows isn't set to be paywalled to use your computerAnd no; you don't move to Linux, stop with that cope.>>724358424Don't forget; no exclusives. $1000-$1500 for a glorified PC disguised as a premium experience console that has nothing different from the competition for being a game system. Yes, there will be people that will fall for it
>>724362710>consoleNot just console, naive lemur. This was the plan for PC; and it's heading that way next. You could have prevent this for consoles in the 7th gen but you advocated for graphicfaggotry and called Nintendo Wii a gimmick
>>724362937technically if it's a pc it has all the games pc has that consoles never get/got. like indie games and shit. on the flip side it'll also get console-only games like gta 6 so it's an interesting product.
>>724363051>on the flip side it'll also get console-only games like gta 6 so it's an interesting productNo game system product is interesting without exclusive games, game systems live and die through software. You only listed a shovelware machine with very few worthwhile games (to some) and called it interesting, reality is; that thing isn't worth more than $350.
>>724363360this "game system" will have more games than all the consoles combined, because it can play all the console games and more. it's just a pc with extra features. the valve pc console will be the same thing just with a different skin and both will be worth it compared to a traditional console.
>>724327090The only reason why PC gamers would ever get this is if the online has less hackers, you can emulate, and no trouble shooting.If it doesn't have any of those then it's dead on arrival.Xbox doesn't seem to understand that the longer time passes the farther away we get from games like witcher 3 and Bloodborne. There are 700$ laptops that can play witcher 3 at 30fps now.
>>724363535>this "game system" will have more games than all the consoles combinedAnd nothing different from it; like I said, shovelware central. Features don't sell game systems; Xbox failed and is dying on that hill.
Honestly a tactical move since the competitors now heavily rely on their paid multiplayer as a main source of revenue.
>>724363863PC doesn't care.Nintendo doesn't live from it.Only Sony could get its tables turned but aside that it's irrelevant
there's really a nigga in this thread saying pc is shovelware and worthless
>>724363941Since when did Xbox compete with PC?
>>724362754Xbox's brand was literally that it had the beefiness of a PC but it's a vidya console dedicated to gaming.
>>724328336And you have to watch what you say and write or you'll get permabanned and locked out of your library. Those companies should be taken to court for depriving people of what they already paid for. It's literally robbery but they hide behind their terms and conditions (smallprint lawyer bullshit)
>>724363580You're forgetting system parity. If everyone plays on the same exact system, then it's easier to manage and develop for. That's always been the largest leg up consoles had over PC.
>>724364314you can still do that with pc's though. look at the steam deck with it's pre-compiled shaders and steam deck quality presets in games.
>>724327262>xbox lets you play steam games>publish a explorer.exe launcher on steamyeah I think based
>>724330710I'm surprised those greedy motherfuckers haven't started charging people for turning the console on
The whole concept of a console/PC hybrid system literally only make sense if you drop the multiplayer fee. What's the fucking appeal of a Xbox with Steam if you have to still pay for Xbox Live? How would the logistics even work out when its not even your online service being used?
There will absolute not be a new xbox console. Microsoft always lies about their failing projects because the teams running them have no clue when they're all going to be fired. The Windows phone division was doing press releases for future plans literally days before the entire division was shut down
>>724327090In other words, we're working on implementing more effective MTX.
>>724330346Nope, the 360 was p2p. It had a huge issue with the host using lag switches to win in Halo and Gears.
>>724333540>and they would be back in businessPhil will never let them make good games
This will inevitably be a success because they'll start pre installing gaming laptops and handhelds with this gaming UI and people will just go along with it.
>>724347793>Seething shitskin xbotits been a while god damn
>>724364239which is why it was originally hated as a platform and considered an outsider.
>>724327090I assume this means the hardware will be much more expensive, such that they're actually making money on the hardware and don't need to get all their profit from subscriptions and 3rd party sales. Open platform means they no longer have a guarantee of 3rd party sales (Xbox users could just buy PC games elsewhere) so the hardware price will almost certainly need to go up.I wonder what the hardware will look like. I mean clearly it will be "just" a Windows PC, but I wonder whether it will have any special sauce at all for back-compat or for things like playing games from older physical copies.
>>724327090wait so that one leak larping anon was right??
>>724327294Like the Apple of the gaming world. So cool!
>>724366118Your Xbox library stretching from at least the 360 era has to come with it already else it doesn't matter. Also maybe cross Xbox compat, like if you buy a PC version of a game then you can play it in your system but it's the Xbox version.
>>724327090Woah! That totally makes up for them introducing and popularizing paid online to become the standard in gaming!…..NOTFUCK X-CUX
>>724329326>subscription based consolesHonestly fairly likely given the track records of all involved.
