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how come the series never lets us kill allah or mohammed?
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>>724332294
Allah, YHVH, and Yaldabaoth are the same demon in SMT. And Mohammed is explicitly not to be revered in Islam, he is just a mouthpiece.

As for actual Messiahs, you are playing as the messiah of that world in each respective game.
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>>724332483
>And Mohammed is explicitly not to be revered in Islam, he is just a mouthpiece.
this isn't an excuse to not have him in SMT though.
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>>724332294
Allah is the Arabic word for "god." They worship the save fucking god as jews and Christians. You wouldn't say the French worship a different diety because they say "deus," would you, moron?
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>>724332483
OPs shitty bait btfo immediately kekd
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>>724332538
It is, humans who come back as demons are deified. Demons are shaped by human observation.
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>>724332538
True, but what would he even do in smt's setting? He's long dead. None of the other abrahamic prophets have shown up in the games either.
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>>724332538
Atlus's HQ would get firebombed you fucking retard
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>>724332717
>They worship the same fucking god as jews and Christians because lla means God
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>>724333054
>what would he even do in smt's setting
what does every other demon do? they cast spells and party check you. jesus/muhammed doesnt need any special role.

The reason neither are ever represented in the series in any way is because of international shitstorms. Any other answer is cope.
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>>724332294
Maybe they will once Japan becomes culturally enriched enough.
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>>724332717
I know people who unironically believe Deus is a code for Zeus, and that catholics are pagan and not christian
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>>724332483
Based SMT lore enjoyer
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>>724332294
YHVH is supposed to be the one whole Abrahamic God. Angels that serve him have both Judeo-Christian and Islamic angels (Israfel). Atlus specifically said that they didn't want to clown on a God from a specific religion and just took a combined Abrahamic entity
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>>724333202
We do, sans trinity and sans whatever the kikes have going on.
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>>724332483
I always liked the angle that YHVH is an usurper entity piggybacking off the work of a greater will in SMT, interesting callback to the real-world rise of Judaism and monotheistic belief after more typical pantheons and tribal deities
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>>724333237
>Kazuma Kaneko has stated that Agony's appearance was inspired by Kimo Leopoldo from UFC.[2] The demon's being tied to a cross is based on a scene from The Mission where a character falls down a waterfall while tied to a cross.[1]
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>>724332483
>Mohammed is explicitly not to be revered in Islam
>must say magic words after his name not to go to hell


>>724332717
>worship the save fucking god as jews and Christians
Is this the power of public education?
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>>724333594
yeah haha the thorns and body lacerations are also based on a ufc fighter haha
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>>724332294
Christianity is just as retarded as Islam if not more in some cases, and they both worship the same Jewish god so it really doesn't matter.
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>>724333594
A reminder that Kaneko believes that Japanese came from one of the lost Israeli trbies and finds it cool
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>>724333878
That's actually pretty common belief there. Probably residue from the unification church.
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>>724333878
black hoteps are based so that makes Kaneko even moreso
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>>724333878
Every race that has encountered christianity at some point believes this, one of the tribes was Anglo, the other Japanese, there were Chinese and indian Israelite tribes too. I wonder what all 12 of the tribes together would look like. I imagine back then the missionaires would commonly tell people that they were actually part of the lost tribe to get them to convert.
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>>724333878
Only true for Ainu and Jomon.
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>>724332294
Because Christians don't cut off your head in your home country if you say something bad about their religion.
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BE CURSED
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>>724335503
Protestants and a bunch of splinter sects like Mormons believe they should be able to, oddly enough it's Catholics that are the more gentle Christian sect these days.
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>>724333331
those people are right and you never studied ancient greek
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>>724335640
GIVE UP BE SILENT AND BE CURSED
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>>724335757
Ok, buddy
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What if YOU wanted to get into heaven
But as soon as you pass the pearly gates this song starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wuCQshyNuk
And you're forced into fight
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>>724335985
glad you understand how wrong you were
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The only different between allah and the christian god is that christians believe in the trinity right? Otherwise they're both abrahamic religions, coming from the same origin as judaism.
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>still no PC remake of SJ/4/4A
kinda gay
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>>724336205
>remix of the normal battle theme
this trope will never not be kino
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>>724332294
That is Allah
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>>724332483
>Mohammed is explicitly not to be revered in Islam
They will kill you if you draw him and they hate dogs because the prophet hated dogs.
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>>724336205
recalcitrant execution.
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>>724336367
You were right, I was wrong of course, you're the expert
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>>724336205
I answer with
Akasha Arts +9(Smirking)
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>>724336205
>Went into this fight without Magaon
WORST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE
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>>724335697
>oddly enough it's Catholics that are the more gentle Christian sect these days
Not for lack of the trads trying, though
Dumb rightwing schizos bringing protestant ideas like generational curses and Harry Potter being written by the power of Satan and witchcraft being real while LARPing like they're Templars (tortured, killed, and disbanded by the Church and a French king because they were getting too rich with the excuse of false accusations of worshipping an idol called Baphomet that was described differently in every forced account btw)
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>>724336940
Americans were a mistake.
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>>724336940
Yeah trads are weird motherfuckers, pretty transparently they're only in for the surface aesthetic and trying to will Manifest Destiny into existence as a message from God so they've got vindication for the "holy warrior" bent. Neo-Nazis with a crucifix basically, they've got the kind of zeal you only see among recently converted no-nothings and among rat-poison-koolaid cults.
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>>724335697
>gentle Christian sect
Friendly reminder that the whole "turn the other cheek" thing is a psyop. Same thing with retards conflating killing and murder.
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>>724337469
>friendly reminder that (reddit atheist bellyaching)
I said "these days" you donut.
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>>724333202
Yes they do, you retard. Hell, Jesus is even treated as one of Allah's prophets in Islam, he just isn't the main one like Christianity.
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>>724337551
I don't think atheists would be advocating for Christians to grow a backbone and stop being pussies. But I guess you're too dumb to understand context clues.
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>>724337853
>you're too dumb

>feels guy edit image
>reddit and atheism strawman
What gave it away?
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>>724337679
>gods so similar they have 3 different churches
oh you little dummy, you little dum dum
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>>724337469
How did sola scriptura turn into ignoring the scripture you don't like.
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>>724332294
What would Mohammed's SMT demon even look like? Some moon splitting wizard with a loli?
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>>724337853
Is this a bot?
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>>724338179
Arabic text in a humanoid shape
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>>724337982
It's like how Mormons are a spin-off of Christianity.
Christianity was guys saying Judaism's messiah has arrived and it was their guy and Islam was a warlord guy saying he could be a Jesus, too, but actually all the Jews and Christians are actually evil, can't be friends with you, and will all be killed by his followers in the End of Days.
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>>724338408
Islam views Jesus as the messiah just not the son of god, they also think he didn’t die on the cross
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>>724338186
No.
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>>724336650
>appeal to authority
>passive agressive tone
Low iq takes
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>>724336440
I'd kill for a remake of IV with IA's gameplay improvements.
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>>724336423
Jews don't believe in the trinity either. Personally I think the Arians were right
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>>724332717
We say Dieu retard latin is a dead tongue.
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>>724335985
Mary the queen of heaven is literally ishtar.
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>>724339468
They also believe in the virgin birth too. I do wonder why they believe he didn't die on the cross, why was resurrection too far for them?
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because "to find who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to critisize"
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>>724340812
Which also makes you a pneumatomachian.
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>>724336487
Muslims hate dogs because
A) dogs engage in unclean behavior like killing and eating small (un-halal) prey, licking their own assholes, and tracking dirt into the house
and
B) they're hypocrites who don't apply the same conclusion to cats. Hypocrisy is a sadly common human trait
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>I BELIEVE IN UNPROVED PANTS ON HEAD SANDNIGGERKIKE SCROLLS FROM EONS AGO TELLING RIDICULOUS STORIES CONTRADICTING THEMSELVES WHENEVER YOU APPLY THE SLIGHTEST SCRUTINIZED GAZE UPON THEM


why are religious golems like that?
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SMT should make the light of Muhammed from sufi/shia mysticims (Muhammed as a pre existent being) a punchable boss
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>>724341192
They got indoctrinated as kids and it's hard to shake that off once you become an adult
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>>724340969
Charlie Kirk?
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>>724341170
toxotransmosis moment
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>>724341320
nah the people calling him a hero already forgot he existed
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>>724332294
Because those are not gods nor demons, they are just some human guys.
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>>724340902
It's funny because God faking Jesus' death to all witnesses totally destroys the foundation of Islam, like the hadith, and I legitimately don't see why Jesus living or dying makes any kind of doctrinal difference. It isn't like how the trinity has to be right to explain why worshipping Jesus isn't idolatry; Muslims made up inane bullshit for no reason
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>>724336205
These games have incredible soundtracks
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>>724337982
>Roman Catholics, Orthodox Catholics, Protestants all worship a different God and Jesus

Wow you're sure are smart.
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>>724336205
reminder YHVH is voiced by Rigby's va.
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>>724335870
4 is the single most kino game i ever played. Haven't seen a game with a story and tone quite like it.

>I AM THE RADIANT MORNING STAR WHICH SHINES THE PATH TO THE SONS OF MAN
>I AM ALL THE GLORY OF FLESH, BLOOD AND MY OWN WILL
>SO COME, YE LIFELESS PUPPETS OF GOD, I SHALL SNUFF OUT YOUR OSTENTATIOUS LIGHTS!
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>>724343240
>Orthodox
they are a fake religion
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>>724343489
I hope you get to playing your second megaten game soon
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>>724343675
I played quite a few.
>SMT1
>SMT3
>4 and 4A
>SJ
>5/5V
>Persona 2 and 4
>Maken X

4's atmosphere is still unmatched.



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