>heroes condemn Seymour and Mika for being dead but not passing onto the next life, hanging around as an unsent>it's okay when Auron does it
>>724342825At age 14 he was the coolest thing we knew.
Although he was not the man I once knew... Kinoc was still my friend, Seymour. You will pay for his death!
>>724342825The only people that knew were Kimahri, who barely talks, and Tidus at some point between Guadosalam and Zanarkand. But you would know that if you paid attention to the cutscenes.
>>724342825Seymour and Mika continue existing to perpetuate a lie, Auron is trying to expose the truth
>>724343783Seymour continues to exist because he wants to make everyone stop existing.
>>724343765>The only people that knew>thatWho. People aren't things.
>>724343967seymour exists out of the sheer power of autism
>is a biracial abomination>his existence is a net negative on the world itselfWhat did Final Fantasy mean by this plot point?
>>724342825reminder this dude is like 32 or something
>>724342825Because he's trying to expose Yevon's bullshit, also to protect Yuna and Tidus.
>>724342825He's only hanging on to deal with unfinished business. He's not planning to unnaturally linger forever and subvert the cycle of life and death.That's the distinction.
>>72434424935 year old war veterans look like that
>>724344034Don't be like that.
>>724344249he died in his twenties or something but death really hit him hard
And the overly pedantic anon of the day award goes to >>724344034
>>724342825You didn't play the game.
>>724344570no one played X
>>724344570Yes I did.
>>724344464dang. he was 25 when he kicked the bucket with braska
>>724342825If the game was set in modern times what weapons would they all use? I think Auronn would use a Scar-H because it fires a heavy 7.62x51 round with fits his heavy sword he uses in the game.
let's be real, it's fucking tie-dus, not tee-dus
>>724344570well, for plenty of people their last playthrough was 23 years ago. i sure don't remember the minor details well anymoreit was one of the very few games from the time that got tv commercials where i live
>>724343967Is that what he tells the followers of Yu Yevon in order to accomplish his goals?
>>724344224>everyone hates you and your mom>mother sacrifices herself to become a chained spirit abomination so you can finally live a happy life>now everyone adores you and expects you to save themSeymour was understandable, but he went out of his way to make his plight everyone's problem.
>>724344759ティーダだよ
>>724344783I was thinking about this. I replayed everything but 10 and 12. I wonder how many have 10 as the last one they touched.I kind of want to do a blue mage run.
>Mika and Yunalesca>believe that a world where people live in perpetual false hope and suffering is preferable to everyone "losing hope" and still suffering but so drunk on the kool-aid they refuse to believe in the hope that Sin can ever be defeated and do everything they can to squash the idea that Sin is anything but a perpetual, inevitable part of the world now>Seymour>so up his own ass with the trauma of his shitty upbringing and his mother killing herself to be his Final Aeon as part of a plan where he kills himself to finally be accepted by people he absolutely refuses to accept any outcome where he doesn't become Sin and kills everyone else instead>Auron>just wants to make amends for allowing his friends to go to meaningless deaths and to stop the cycle of pointless sacrifice by saving their children from following in their footsteps
>>724344759actually it's "Teiida" according to romanization of the katakana used to write his name in Japanese
>>724344878>mother sacrifices herself to become a chained spirit abomination so you can finally live a happy lifeAnima is Seymour's Final Aeon. He was pushed into going on Pilgrimage, got literally right to the absolute final point and was ready to go kill Sin, and then decided nah. HE wants to be Sin and that means being someone else's Final Aeon, so he went home again.
>Seymour and Mika>Wanted to seemingly destroy everything>Auron>Just wants to stop the pointless cycle of death and rebirth and avenge his friends
>>724342825They criticize Mika being unsent because he's using it to perpetuate the false dogma of Yevon. Seymour too, he killed his father and wants to become Sin.Auron is literally alive so he can help Yuna stop Sin and then pass on. Play the fucking game retard.
>>724342825Auron was fulfilling a promise to a friend & being dead allowed him to do that.
>>724345192that doesnt make sense since the final eon is the real sin
>>724342962He still is, without none of that try hard edgy shit.
>>724345546>Summoner and Guardian reach Zanarkand>Guardian sacrifices their life to become Summoner's Final Aeon>Final Aeon fights and destroys Sin>Summoner dies in the process>Yu Yevon possesses Final Aeon>Yu Yevon rebuilds Sin around it
>>724344249FFX ages are scuffed. Lulu has supposedly been on 2 pilgrimages before Yuna's and is only 21. You might as well add 10 years onto everyone's supposed age
>>724345546Final aeon is just a battery to power sin
>>724345959>Lulu has supposedly been on 2 pilgrimages before Yuna's and is only 21also sounds like she's 45 for no reason
>>724345959>You might as well add 10 years onto everyoneTidus, Yuna and Rikku only work as teenagers
>>724345557Come on, Auron is cool but he's 100% tryhard edgy shit.
>Seymours plan is literally billions must die
>>724344034This is why you don't have any friends.
>>724346319I disagree, he's very subdued in his behavior and words despite carrying all that pain and burden. What exactly makes him try hard edgy?
>>724345192Either Anima failed to become a final aeon because Seymour resented his mother too much, or he was already dead before the start of the game, and was always just holding his form out of resentment for his birth
>>724346319how so?
>>724344034but we know who, Kimahri and Tidus
>>724342825Seymour and Mika are evil. One wants to kill all of Spira, and the other wants to keep the lie of Yu Yevon alive to control the people. Auron is simply alive to honor Braska and Jecht's wishes.
>>724345959she wasn't a part of the last successful pilgrimage so those two were just ones where the summoner kicked the bucket early on and there are always multiple summoners doing the pilgrimage at any time outside of calm. the ones she was escorting died before reaching zanarkand and she could have just jumped right to the next party she met on the road
>>724346319he is literally an autistic dead man trying to fulfill the wishes of his should-be-dead friend in a doomed world, he's strong and stylish gameplay/designwise but hardly edgy, just a mouthpiece for the themes of the game
>>724346752so those two pilgrimages could have both happened in an year or something. she doesn't have a good track record
>>724346552The summoner has to actively choose to go and fight Sin, Seymour took her Fayth and buried it in Baaj Temple instead. The Calm Lands are called that because that's where most summoners have had their final battles with Sin. You don't just get the Final Aeon and the situation auto-resolves.
why is every unsent some sort of sperg?tidus, auron, seymour..is it only the ones that are autistic that are stubborn enough to no leave?
>>724344249He's literally me frfr
>>724342825seymour and mika are actively trying to decide the destiny of spira forever, while auron goes out of his way to avoid telling tidus and yuna everything so they can figure shit out themselves and make their own choices whenever possible before instantly moving on as soon as he knows they've got everything handleddo you genuinely have autism? how can you not read the nuance in a game aimed at japanese teenagers?
>>724345546When the final aeon fights sin, yuyeon abandons 'sin' and parasitizes the 'final aeon' which in turn transforms it into the new sin. its a metaphore for japanese boomers taking over genx companies/projects instead of moving the fuck on and retiring.
>>724344759Wrong, you burger homo.It's TI-DUS, spelled like in Latin, or even the Japanese Ti-Dus. The characters even SAY IT OUT LOUD in the Kingdom Hearts 1.
>>724346965retaining human form after death literally just requires you to be too autistic to allow the event itself to change you
>>724346965Tidus isn't Unsent, he's an Aeon. Otherwise to be Unsent rather than turning into a Fiend you need to have a very strong connection to your life, something that keeps you grounded, unfinished business you absolutely have to see done. So inevitably all the Unsent have serious issues.
>>724347132sounds about right
why did FFX not have the main FF theme in it?
>>724342825The actual retarded thing is Seymour being able to turn into a fiend and back at will with little to no explanation. I get it was just to design bosses but it screws with how the world of Spira works and ends up just being a videogame thing you need to ignore
>>724342825Its amazing how he manages to make sunglasses work with his outfit.
>>724346752>she could have just jumped right to the next party she met on the roadThe majority of Summoner parties are just two people. They know the Guardian has to be someone the Summoner cares about because they're emulating Yunalesca and Zaon, the original Calm, who were husband and wife. Yuna only has three people (plus the extras she picks up) because of the ridiculous circumstances.
>>724347574Yeah all the summoners she meets on the road gives her smack for having so many guardians
>>724347875And yet she ended up winning anyway cause of all of them. lol
Sin? At this time of year? At this time of day? In this part of Spira? Localized entirely within your Blitzball stadium?
>>724344249Hans Aurman
>>724342825>want to make a joke about how he looks so old he must be 35 what with it beeing a japanese game>he actually is cannonically 35Why do the japanese not just kill themselves when they turn 21?
>>724348363They fetishize youth but venerate maturity
>>724346752Minor nitpick, only one died (Ginnem). Father Zuke gave up at the Calm Lands.Given that not all pilgrimages start at Besaid, it's also possible they weren't at the tail end of their journey like Yuna was
>>724348805The Stolen Fayth is in the Calm Lands anyway. And given you only go to the Calm Lands when you're ready to push on past Gagazet into the Ruins, it was near the end of both their Pilgrimages. Someone says that the Calm Lands is a point where a lot of Summoners give up.
>>724346752>>724347574>>724347875having only one guardian is part of the design. Its harder to do the sacrifice and perpetuate the whole thing if its a whole group
>>724346568>>724346492He wears sunglasses inside.
>>724349030And at nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2LTL8KgKv8
>>724348805huhseems like both of those pilgrimages were during the last two years prior to yuna's pilgrimage. lulu is the town guardian bicycle
>>724347098Don't care.Will continue to say Tie-dus because I like the way it sounds better.
>>724349030That's not edgy, that's maximum cool.>>724349240You beat me to it, was about to link that vid too.
>>724347434It literally does in the first seconds of the game you retard when Bahamut is talking to you with your fans
>>724349270Lulu was clearly doing it in an effort to stop Yuna from going off and killing herself to live up to her father's reputation
>>724344759It is. One of the biggest features of the game was showing off the PS2's capability for water physics. The whole game is based around water and the sea. You know, the sea, which has a tide. Tide-us. Tidus.
>>724349735AgreedAnyone who says tee-dus can kill themselves
>>724349735tidepodus
>>724344224Yuna is biracial and she's basically Spira Jesus.
I guess I'm god damn playing ff10 again thanks for that
>>724349572that's the prelude anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsbqOGSw-5A
>>724342825I don't think anyone in the party knew auron was dead until the very end of the game? apart from tidus of course, but the guy was practically his foster father so of course he'd be ok with it
>>724342825You know it's a bit different when you establish a government that tells you not to do something, you have a race war built on that thing you told them not to do, and then it turns out you were doing it the whole time
>>724350178Yeah I feel the pull to play it again too. It's been a year
>>724350116Al-Bhed are basically humans with spiral pupils, Seymour's an actual halfbreed of human and guado. The first ever. People thought he was an abomination
>>724350116>spira jesus>chooses NOT to die for everyone's Sin(s)
>>724350178>want to replay ffx>remember the cloister of trials part of the game>stop wanting to replay ffx
>>724346568>sunglasses>gravelly edgelord voice>epic scar over his eye like every grizzled anime character
If ffx came out now vee would scream that its woke because bahamut is a little black kid and Seymour is a half breed screeching for equality and love through lashing out + messaging of single moms being badWakka would also be made to be a wacky joke characteur ilthet everyone lambasts and makes the butt of jokes instead of a layered real nuanced take and look into racism
>>724350536The only Cloisters I hate are Bevelle and Zanarkand
>>724350252kimahri probably did. he was probably there when he died
>>724347541All of his boss forms are just him making body armor, not turning into a Fiend.
>>724350536bevelle is really the only ass one
>>724342825Who said it was okay?
>>724350589Bevelle's is truly awful, the rest I don't mind, they're all short enough.
>>724350567>because bahamut is a little black kidno he isnt. But even then, we didnt care that there were brown people in Spira cause it was an island-themed game. Made sense to have tanned and dark skinned people. The game also had a mix of a very diverse style, so it fit in, too. Unlike FF7 Remake which literally uses modern blacks
>>724349735>game features no physics sim of any kind
>>724350567But single moms being good is the whole thing
>>724342825Auron hides it.This is shown when he refuses to go to that Fatplane viewing place, and how he avoids Yuna when she's sending people.Are you retarded?
>>724350738It's a modern-ish game.
>>724350536I already hear the music.
>>724350536I just open a guide and go through it like that.
>>724350840>Tidus' Mother is revealed to be worse than Jecht, to the point she's never named, and she just drops dead from lack of jock dick when she has a kid to raise>Seymour's Mother decides the best way to help her shunned and hated chil is to go on a Mother/Son Mutual Suicide bonding trip
>>724349735It's tee-dus, it's an Okinawan word meaning Sun, as oppossed to Yuna which means Moon.
>>724350567>single moms are actually a good thing!>wakka would be made fun of now unlike the past 25 yearsget bent, retard.
>>724351230>>Seymour's Mother decides the best way to help her shunned and hated chil is to go on a Mother/Son Mutual Suicide bonding tripSeymour had a hard life.
>>724344759TEE-DUS is the product of ESL adaptation. They tried adapting a foreign name (literally spelled Titus) and messed up trying to literally pronounce it. Their official "reasoning" is a cope of not wanting to admit they made a mistake. Not even the first time, go look at BUTTZ
>>724351352Yuuna doesn't mean moon in okinawan. It's a flower.
>>724351780>hard lifein death as well
>>724351887Not quite as fuckable as a chaste seventeen year old with daddy issues
>>724351352You don't know tides are created by the moon?
>>724346201Not really. Tidus being a star sportstar at 16 is a joke.
>>724346752I'm not implying she was. Im implying she was running round as a young teen doing this shit
>>724350531>Literally frees everyone from original sin
>>724350252I was always curious if Rikku had her suspicions when he wouldn't go into the farplane and waited with her
>>724350567>Muh VEEEEFuck up tranny
He was right.
>>724350567>Seymour is a half breed screeching for equality and loveUh
>>724354945That's happened plenty of times in real life, let alone fantasy. This ugly cunt was considered one of the best footie players in the world at 16.
>>724350536The cloisters are puzzles for 10 year olds, anon. They take like 5 minutes to go through and most of that is time spent pushing pedestals around, not actually thinking about how to solve the puzzle. It's literally the simplest "but the sphere in the sphere-shaped hole" shit.
>>724350116tidus is spira jesus
I think the party (Aside from Tidus) was genuinely surprised when he self banished at the end of X. One of the few ghosts who weren't selfish bastards.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwBv6cD9Z5U
>>724342825seymour and mika are a perversion of their faith, perpetuating a regime that keeps people helpless and vulnerable, auron is a noble man with purpose and seeking to guide the children of his only two friends in life towards success, he willingly disappears when he accomplishes this
>>724354945Are you retarded?What age do you think professional sportsball players are? All the young prodigies are teenagers.
>>724342825>you can meet the dead at a tourism destination>the dead themselves can just walk back into the world of the living>they can even do so while looking and acting indistinguishable from a living person>for some reason people still fear death and mourn their loved ones in this universe
>>724355951it takes strong willpower for them not to turn into fiends, which the overwhelming majority of unsent become
>>724355951>you can meet a picture of a dead person that doesn't move, talk or acknowledge you in any way>no they can't>only a very few come back as human, the majority come back as hideous monsters that kill more people>people still fear death because it's permanent for 99% of peopleIdiot
>>724347098It's TIE-dus you mong
>>724354945In pro sports, if you're not a star by 16, you'll never make it, and by 25, your career is guaranteed over as the next young rising star surpasses you and your body gives out.
>>724350541do you think he just decided to have a gravelly voice and get scarred?
>>724355951the farplane only projects your memories into a shape resembling them, it's not really a sentient person standing there.as for the unsent, they only manage to stay uman and sane through sheer force of willpower (and plot armor), all 98% others succumb to it and become fiends.
>>724349353
>>724356124Seimur's dad came back to warn the party his son was up to no good, and seymur himself didn't seem to afected by dyinggive that portal to the Al-Bhed and they'll crack a resurrection machine within a decade
>>724356615Jyscal recorded a sphere saying "If I die mysteriously and you're watching this then it means my son murdered me", that you find in his home.
Ball is a...Save TI...
>>724355557Blitzball is a hard contact sport. Football isn't. A little kid would get rekt
>>724355862>SportballYea, you know nothing. You can tell by you using that reddit term
>>72435701695% of people are fully grown by age 16. Their bodies are at their biological peak. It's all downhill from there.
>>724355474>mfw Spoony will never overcome his twitter addiction and crushing mental issues to make funny shit again
>>724355951>All these years later and retards don't understand the Farplane was foreshadowing Tidus being a manifested human
>>724356895>in his homeyou actually find the sphere at the farplane, when Jyscal tries to escape and collapses in front of her. he leaves it on the floor and Yuna brings it all the way to the thunder temple to finally open it and listen to the message
>>724357116Kek no it isn't you fucking retard. For men its around early 20's. If you peaked at 16, then you are a weak little manchild
>>724357016https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ford_(rugby_union)>Ford made his professional debut at Leicester Tigers in 2009 at the age of 16Rugby makes Blitzball look like water polo
>>724357153The game is trying to bamboozle you since Tidus can enter just fine while Auron coughs and stays outside to hint at his unsent status, which is only going to be truly revealed at Zanarkand
>>724357232>09Union was a fags sport by then. All the hard shit was taken out for being "too dangerous" and now it's just constant stop start plays with men lying on each other
>>724357356I mean it shows you the fayth can manifest beings, like the ones it shows people of their dead loved ones
>>724342825>>724342962You know what should have happened?Instead of making FFX-2 they should have made a prequel following the journey of Auron Jecht and Braska with Auron as the main.
>>724357502but those manifestations are clearly just projections, they aren't sentient and don't answer back when being interactedIIRC Lulu outright tells Tidus those ghosts are just based off what the person wants to see, and not the deceased actually going there to say hello to them
>>724357128Even if he did, he is so far down the progressive drain that he would spend the first half hour of a new video apologising (again) for making gay jokes and horny jokes in the past.
>>724356467
>>724344034Retard he's just as right as you are you're just a faggot also, except correcting him when either is fine makes you a retard.
adult Tidus never actually existedthe real Tidus is the kid shown in Auron and Jecht's flashbacksthat adult form is and always was Shuyin, the captain of the zanarkand blitzball teamTidus assumed the form of Shuyin because the fayth, while trying to summon Dream Zanarkand, mixed up their memories and couldn't figure up an adult form for him.only by the end of FFX-2's true ending the fayth manage to conjure a perfect, permanent summon of Tidus to live as a proper mortal human being despite being a spectral abomination who never existed at that age and probably isn't supposed to look like that
>>724344759Only if you're not a fucking retard but a lot of people are fucking retards that don't understand language. If you're a jap you can call him whatever you want but his japanese name is Tida in english spelling so howcome you aren't crying about saying the u as an a sound or that the spelling is different, if they wanted him to be pronounced like the okinawan root they would have not added a us they would have named hime tidas, if they wanted an ee sound teedas but that looks retarded because it is retarded so use the correct westernized name since youre already changing it otherwise he'd just be Tida you fucking faggot.
>>724358362you didnt understand x-2 at all that fan theory is shit as fuck why are u stanning so hard for shuyin the nothing character hes a literal plot device
>>724358362Except Jecht went missing because Sin abducted himAnd then Auron went to Dream Zanarkand when Tidus was still a child and watched him grow up
>>724358473>fan theoryMaechen literally tells you about the fayth's reliance on memories to conjure DZ>>724358762>watched him grow up in DZwell duh, what about how the real Tidus was supposed to look like when growing up then
>>724357741WE ALREADY KNOW THE ENDING TO THAT THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T DO IIIIIIIT
>>724342825because seymour and mika are fucking evil
>>724359041>god why did they make Star Wars prequels we already know how it all ends
>>724357982>They don't think it be like it is, but it doAnymore insightful comments?
>>724358362Nobody in dream zanarkand ever existed. It's a giant magical simulation running for a thousand years. It's entirely fake.Tidus was an Aeon, just like everyone else in his Zanarkand.
>>724347098>Kingdom HeartsIt's time to stop indulging this shit. It's cringe, always has been.
>>724359264I'm actually thankful Square isn't taking up the job to deliver a bro tour filled with dad energy, masculinity and camaraderie clashing between Braska's ascetic ethical conduct, Auron's no-bullshit monk attitude with some cracks due to still being young lacking experience and awareness of the world's malice, and Jecht's macho womanizer drunk buffoonish but still loyal personality.not with current Square. nope. they would cuck or gay up something. Nojima already fucked up with 2,5s blitzbomb, Sin coming back and Yuna breaking up with Tidus
>>724359413considering the inhibitants of dream zanarkand could make it to the farplane, i think they do exist
>>724342962I played FFX for the first time @ age 29Auron was still the coolest shit ever
I'm pretty sure the whole atlantis thing is true and that's our version of zanarkand, I mean you guys have had weird memories too right, this weird feeling of needing to be in the water?
>>724359851spira is based on east asian culture like thailand, bali, indonesia etc so yeah there's going to be water everywhere
>>724359413>Nobody in dream zanarkand ever existedyes they did, they are suspposed to be replicas of everyone who actually existed right before the city got nuked in the war, as means to preserve their identity and memoryit just so happens Tidus is an exception because he died as a kid and yet he managed to "grow up" and get out of DZ. Auron did the original FUBAR in the system when he offered to take Tidus away from there when Sin attacked DZ and brought him to that completely different reality that he wasn't supposed to belong, resulting in him showing up in that temple in the beginning of the game.
They messed up Seymour's introduction so he sounds like an effiminate super homo and Mika is some old bald dweeb who couldn't stand up to a stiff wind. By rule of cool Auron had no competition in this department. Let him have this. Otherwise he's just a long dead jobber.
>>724359948X-2 isn't canon. It was a cash grab by squeenix not a game by squaresoft.
>>724359935I understand that I mean there's just this weird feeling in the back of my head that I've forgotten something and so have the rest of us
>Every Aeon takes a form that its Fayth considers to embody strength>Jecht's is literally a big hulking version of himselfThat whole fight was absolute kino on so many levels.
>>724360080all of the post you quoted's info is taken from X, not X-2people aren''t supposed to grow up in DZ, they are eternally frozen in time and shouldn't age because they are dead and are merely reliving the same groundhog day over and over because it's just the fayth mural in Gagazet remembering shit and preserving said memory. all of that is in X right by the time of HORNLESS and AH THE SON OF JECHT
>>724360080Actually it's the last Squaresoft game.
>>724360353Grim. What's the opposite of a swan song?
>>724360285>Every Aeon takes a form that its Fayth considers to embody strengthUh-huh.
>>724360321>AH THE SON OF JECHTYOUR HOPE ENDS HEREAND YOUR MEANINGLESS EXISTENCE WITH IT>(ballin music kicks in)
>>724360389Also post death pooping (aka ff13)
>>724360558
>>724360389whatever dawntrail was
>>724360321Fair. Fuck it I'm getting pcsx2 ready it's time to replay.
>>724344759His name is anon actually
>>724360539Hmm, well I could see a Pacce and Maroda type situation where a summoner was accompanied by three slightly autistic young girls as her guardians. Kind of sad to think about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqJhFkKuRrI
>>724349353Toxotransmosis isn't cool.
>>724360749don't think too deep about it because Magus Sissters was actually from FF IV so they just picked a bonus aeon like Yojimbo and made some flavor text as lore to justify that old ass cameo
>>724359660i'm grateful they aren't doing it because that shit's boring, we already know how most of it went because it's a pilgrimage and the whole point of tidus and yuna's journey was being reflective of jecht and braska's
>>724360957>boringhey, XV had tons of problems but the bro dynamics surely weren't one
>>724344249Well, he is dead.
>>724360957It starts in Bevelle and there's completely different character interactions between Jecht being a drunk, Braska abandoning his daughter and Auron fleeing a botched marriage. "We know how it ends" and "there are similarities in the original journey" are meaningless. It's a different story.
I remember some faggot on here several months ago tried claiming Yuna was essentially a man written like a female because she was fulfilling a "masculine" role following in her father's footsteps to become a Summoner, thus she wasn't qualified as a well written female character and was a "le male power fantasy". That notion in general just pissed me off in some cases when a legitimately good female character ceases to be a """real woman""" if she's slightly tomboyish, has any moderately masculine traits or follows a role that's predominantly male/masculine or else they're written off being unrealistic jack-off material. Fuck sake. If FF10 were released today I swear there'd be "chud" retards and bad faith falseflagger trannies claiming the game's "woke" with how Egalitarian and multicultural Spira is. Hell - I'm surprised they haven't done so already.
>>724342825Because he was cool.
>>724361848>I'm surprised they haven't done so already.Thanks largely to the game portraying single mothers as scum and Wakka being based at every opportunity.
>>724361495>and there's completely different character interactions between Jecht being a drunk, Braska abandoning his daughter and Auron fleeing a botched marriage.we see most of this in spheres or auron stories
>>724361848that's just coping since Yuna is clearly meant to be some sort of femJesus and that triggers both leftoids angry about gender roles of a cute and delicate girly character not girlbossing her way through problems and having a male romantic interest, while rightoids mald over her protagonism over Tidus who despite being the sword hacking through problems for her it still ultimately falls up to her to save everything not him, he isn't the chosen one, she is.
Yuna's pits...
>>724362232Post'em.
>>724342825it's all thanks to this nigga's disgruntled rage and grudge against a religion that duped him despite sacrificing everything to be a monk, making him lose both his old life and the new one with his friends at the pilgrimagehe had nothing left to lose, not even his life anymore. he was too angry to die and he needed to fuck that shit up before he could rest.seconds. all he needed was a few seconds in that room to tell the truth to them in Yunalesca's face. if he gave up at any point along the whole process, everyone would have followed through just like Braska did and Tidus would've offered himself just like Jecht did.
>>724361848>halfbreed ends a sinister form of punishment, a weapon & religious & governmental structure keeping people in check, even a fellow halfbreed that was kinda sperging out, AND makes a klansman realize theres worse shit they need to deal with?>All if it, for the people she lovedYeah, of course faggots would besmirch such a pure & good character.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46jP9Q90ANw
>>724357757Yes, because thats all the fayth were doing in the farplane... It was merely foreshadowing, not outright revealing
>>724344249>old grizzled man of the party>is like, 26, topsClassic nippon.
>>724364002there were no fayth in the farplane, at least not in the portal at Guadosalam. people just straight up stepped into the afterlife's equivalent of a reception desk and received one free session of pyrefly pyrotechnicsit wasnt foreshadowing anything about Tidus, at that point the game still wants to fool you into thinking nothing's wrong with him, just Auron
>>724358362Correct, all the responders only know half truths. It is a recreation of Zanarkand before the nukes dropped and then carries on as a simulation as if the nukes never actually dropped. When the fayth come to pick a "chosen warrior" to help them go stop sin to let them stop dreaming, all they had to choose from was their best athletic resident because all the soldiers were off fighting in Bevelle and thus weren't simulated in the dream. That's how the chose Jecht. When Jecht failed, they went for his son, who was half faked because he was only a child at the beginning of the dream. All the residents by the time Tidus leaves aren't technically real people anymore because the simulation has gone on for so long
>>724356436>memories are nice, but thats all they are.
>>724351780Almost every main character in the game had a hard life except maybe Rikku
>>724364732Yeah, she even complained about the big happy fireworks show
>>724364732>doesn't just grow up in a world where there's a giant monster that kills people>is blamed for that monster even existing because her family are used as a scapegoat for why no one can make the monster go away>trying to help just makes people call them monster spawning scum even harder
>>724364732she proceeds to have one after she joins, considering her family, friends and home with all those sand monkeys end up blasted like fireworks ya?
>>724342825Auron had a hard life. The dude is 35 and looks 70. Cut him some slack.
>>724344034Actually retarded holy fuck
>>724342825ever heard of friend enemy distinction
>>724344759honk honk wen i wuz a kid i said "tie-dus" but i can see where evriwan iz comin' frum sayin' its "tee-dus" desu :3
>>724358362The "true ending" of X-2 shouldn't even be considered canon. The story works better without it, and the game is more fun when you aren't playing with a guide to achieve it.
>>724366140The supposed bad ending works better with the overall story
>>724366140the whistle gimmick is foreshadowed by the time you defeat dark bahamut at Bevelle's underground and is a direct referencce to the Luca scene in X, it's absolutely canon and coherent with thhe tone the game built all along, specially considering the entire game is a journey under the pretext of looking for him.sure you could argue "the real Tidus is the friends we made along the way" which is what is established in the normal ending, but to claim that this is more canon or "works better narratively" than the other endings is just wishful thinking because you want your girlboss waifu to stay single to pursue better endeavors than a boring romance.it takes a lot of effort to unlock it precisely because Yuna is expectedly going through every single hoop imaginable to save her husbando. it makes sense in both a narrative and gameplay aspect.
>>724366528>can Yuna finally come to terms with Tidus' death and accept he's not coming back?>no, she needs to have her generic Happy Ending because she worked so hard
>>724366528Also, the post-credits scene in FFX is a cliffhanger of Tidus possibly awakening and emerging from the water to suggest he came back.And then at X-2's true ending, that same scene plays again and is extended to reveal him emerging at Besaid after the game's events.
>>724366893>the fayth are literal wish-granting genies>summons came back despite having gone away along with Yu Yevon, which was the reason they existed at that time>therefore thhe rules from before still apply given the circumstances, so might as well try>but I really REALLY love loss and bad endings in my stuff so please make her suffer, I really want her to suffer and die alone pleasejust don't do the true ending and headcanon the bad / normal one as your own personal canon true ending then
>>724347098His name is Bumbo actually
>>724366528>>724366893Even the writers knew it was dumb to bring Tidus back that way, because the first thing they do again in the next story is kill him off in the most abrupt way they can.
>>724345176No that’s not how katakana works. It’s Tīda / Tiida. ティ= Tiテイ= Tei
FFX-2, should of been about every group trying to use yuna for there own goals and yuna leading the wayalso the al-bed war vs the tree niggas that blew up there home
>>724342825>it's another episode of autistic anon not understanding duality
>>724367454Nojima is milking an empty cow, at the point X-2 ends there is absolutely nothing else to build upon because it's a complete closure. it's just as silly as picking up FF8 and saying oops Ultimecia is back and nothing you did mattered, time for FF8-2.>tidus coming back is silly bbecause they immediately killed him off againSin came back as well, does this mean the main plot device of FFX is shit and should be rewritten around keeping it alive too?
>>724345959There were not much old people either because they are in a world most people died young from sin and you were lucky to live to full adulthood.
>>724367697sin comes back cause some idiot (yuna) has become a faith to bring tidus back so that in turn brings back sin and I love yuna, she should never fucking do this shit
>>724367995>Yuna has become a faythunless 2,5 retconned this to be the case, it's wrong. the fayth of the aeons she formerly used (and saved at the end of X-2) performed this summoning of Tidus as a farewell gift, therefore it shouldn't' be able tto bring anything else back or open any backdoors, just a single person.>oh but then 2,5 came up and...then it's bullshit cooked after the fact, not X-2's fault
the chocobo racing mini game in this game is unironically the worst fucking minigame ever inventedjesus christ what were they thinking
>>724368138https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK3EfCDbOF4
>>724360567>needs chatGPT to explain a common termlmfao
>>724368683Will is a scrapped teaser of the dogshit 2,5 novel that was supposed to be localized, but the backlash was so strong that it stayed exclusive to japan, the book's sales dwindled and Square never talked about it evver again. and they had every opportunity to do so, since Opera Omnia stayed active far longer than X/X-2 Remaster's release window and Ever Crisis already had FFX collabs.Until something else comes up, the novel stays non-canon due to outright abandonment. As it stands, this audio alone works as nothing more than hearsay from an unreliable narrator.
>>724368984we know SE whatever they come up with wont be good
>>724343783This kinda. The evil dead people were trying to control the world through deception. The aurom dead guy was pissed about that but ultimately let the choice be the living to decide what to do with that truth
>>724345959Lulu was 100% came off as a wine aunt
Lulu being that young despite those honkers, goth looks and no-nonsense attitude with deeper voice and cutting off any of Wakka's advances before Luca suggest more than just trauma from missing merely going out with Chappu and kissing by the campfire.She acts as if she already had a late-stage miscarriage in order to plump up her milkbags with pregnancy hormones and emotional scarring from a ruined family. Her mannerisms, specially when she scolds Tidus about family stuff, resemble those of a tired mom who lived through a lot already, not just the loss of a romantic fling that she could easily replace by hooking up with another average blitz chad at Luca as any 20 year old at her supposed age would do.Dona also looks like she got her own issues, her beefcake sidekick might be a bull in bed but he is clearly too retarded to raise a family even though they sincerely love each other. She got some sort of frustration you can just feel it in the room while she's standing around, and oh boy are the plenty of camera scenes deling further and further into their drama at home.
>>724342825He was fulfilling a promise to a friend don't forget... Being Jecht's guardian meant the world to Auron
>>724342825I'm a little disappointed Jame Arnold Taylor can't really match up to his first performance as Tidus these days. It's like every iteration of him after 10's an amalgamation of Johnny Test and Ratchet. From what I remember he sounded relatively close to 10's Tidus in Mobius, but otherwise in general he sounds more chipper and slightly cartoonish in the other spinoffs. Maybe it's more to do with the different VA coaches than the VAs themselves or even both.
>>724370643From the audio story it seems like John DiMaggio can't do Wakka anymore either
>>724344249I'll be older than Auron next birthday. How do I cope with this feeling?
>>724344249why did he even age when hes a fucking ghost
>>724371009Get a cool jacket, sunglasses, a big sword, hang out with a bunch of teens/young adults, and start speaking in vague terms without explaining anything.
>>724344034>they hated him because he told the truth
>>724371171Ghost alcohol got him
>>724371171He prolly uses some form of glamour to make himself look older as it'd look extremely suspicious if he remained at the same age he died at
>>724371171To be fair, the only other people we're shown walking around unsent besides he and Seymour are two old guys. Maybe the Unsent can continue aging.
>>724342825Considering Auron is solving the issue through his presence and guidance to the new generation in spite of being dead. He is very clearly on the right side of the morality.Wakka is plainly what happens when the misguided but good are herded by blind faith and used for their machinations. Auron represents a bitter wise ageless perspective on the farce, letting the kids see the truth for themselves whilst protecting Yuna.
>"hey teedus your dad is sin lmao">does a 360 and walks awayis this game supposed to be a comedy?
>>724342825it is indeed okay when Auron does it for the sole reason of him being Auron
>>724344759tea-da
Came for the webm of auron fucking off and sky-running away from a battle, leaving disappointed
>>724344224Seymour is literally a doomer, "billions must die" is his whole plan
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>>724371171Im going to assume since he can travel to zanarkand to grab tidus, the dead have the capability to age because so do the zanarkand fayth
