Discuss Bloodlines 1 and 2, Redemption, other shit. Where do you think things go vidya wise from here?
These games were never good and vampires have always been fag shit for trannies
Nosferatu best clan
>>724346464Broccoli headed brown zoomer detected
>>724346464Yeah we get it anon you wish you were a girl and want to kill yourself
I don't think we need to turn this into a general, these threads would not survive /vg/
>>724346525agreed
So does 2 do anything well?
>>724346567>>724346609Guys, just ignore him and talk abnout vampires.Tremere clan is the clan of clans.
>>724346464Correction. Vampires are gay shit for faggots. But cool faggots, Freddy Mercury kind.
>>724346464>alwaystrannies as a demographic only existed for a devade and a half
>>724346221>Discuss Bloodlines 1Honestly i don't care what cope people give it will NEVER make sense for the Fledgling to not open the coffin unless you're malkavian.> B-but you're told to not open it and that it could trigger gehennaTHEN YOU SHOULDN'T LET LACROIX OPEN IT EITHER YOU STUPID BITCH.The ending is fucking stupid. The protag doesn't know it's filled with TNT. If you genuinely believe opening it could trigger the apocalypse, why let Lacroix open it? Just walking away is such a 4th wall breaking option because eveyorne already read on the internet you die if you open it.It's a stupid rushed ending. Only Strauss ending doesn't open it as it should but Strauss is such a shitty non character who you can completely skip it sucks. Also fuck nines i hate how anarch heavy the game is.
>>724346721yeah it does well sucking it up to the original Bloodlines. Other than that it's crap.
>>724346687Vtmb2 just came out so it’s fine for now
If I was going to make a Bloodlines ripoff game, what would you want to see in it?
>>724346221First we breathe a sigh of relief that VTMB's corpse won't be getting raped anymore.Than, with a bit of luck maybe we get a mod or two, for either game.
>>724346754Validt. Loves this game. It's deeply flawed but still good where it counts (mood and atmosphere, something modern devs can't do).
>>724346721Powers can be fun, story isn’t awful
Furry money demands a Werewolf game.
>>724346721>game graphics and atmosphere are mostly pretty good>good screenshots>combat is somewhat cool for the first hour or soIt does some basic things well enough that you don't discount the game as shit in the first 30 minutes but not really no
>>724346854Mostly the same shit, but no third person melee. Also if you can use the movement from 2, it actually works well with building climbing. Make anyone killable too
>>724346721I like the Seattle hub and it generally looks nice.If they cared a bit more about the gameplay it could've been decent.
>>724346932>Anon wants Earthblood 2 with even more sexualized woofsI wouldn't be opposed to woofs drawn with one hand but Earthblood clearly showed that no one actually understands what people want out of W:tA
>>724346754Kitty can finally has cheeseburger whenever she wants
Pisha my beloved
>>724346721Being so fucking garbage despite the devs getting handed a ton of finished assets + almost 4 years of dev time is quite the achievement. They managed to make something that is not an RPG and also has ZERO replay value.
>>724346721The combat is better than the first game's which wasn't a high bar. Enemies are unfortunately damage sponges. It'd make sense if you were fighting other vampires but for most of the game you're fighting ghouls and thin bloods.
>>724346932yeah, sadly we only have Skyrim to satisfy our werewolf cravings.
>>724347036Likewise, I thought the locations were okay. Not as inspired as the first game despite all the teasers they had but certainly could have been worse. Too bad there's still nothing to do
>New hunter CYOALet me guess, it's gone go something like: monsters are...le missunderstood, everyone will screw you over and basically you're a scared little bitch for 90% of the game.
>>724347105That’s actually fixed by playing on easy, nothing changes besides enemy health
>>724346942>>game graphicsYou can't be serious.
>>724346721No. I was expecting for the visuals and writing to be decent, but while the main plot isn't terrible most of the characters are. And the city is lifeless. I'm a screenshot whore and found nothing worth capturing in 2
>>724346221Real kindred wife female hunters.
>>724347048>what people want out of W:tAwhich is what?The gameline was always just Wolf Furry Grimdark Captain Planet
>>724347036Take some screenshotsI usually hate hiding the UI but I really wish I could hide this modern rhomboid shit for my screenshots
>>724346932As long as /ourcorp/ wins it's ok
>>724347201Do people really enjoy that type of games? It's literally just text...
>>724347135Nah, it seems Glenkildove will be the only one to do that. Other than Thinbloods Time of Monsters seems to actually want edgy vampires. The hollywood game though idk. People seem to want to fuck the werewolves enough that I'm surprised the Garou even struggle in WoD
How is the Werewolf game? The Earthblood one. If anyone has vr are the vtm and wraith one any good?
>>724347135Seems to be. Being homeless sucks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3F2OideLps
Saving Ryong's life without this fucking stereotype? No? Refund is good
>>724347193The game looks fine anon, art direction half the time could be better but guy was asking what the game did well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7o59XNTcZkIs Vlad right? Is he confusing millennials with zoomtards?
>>724347105>The combat is better than the first game'sNo it's fucking not and I will fight you over that.>can use various melee weapons>each one has unique stealth finishers>can activley block in combat>can use guns
>>724346754Anon, by that point, the protagonist doesn't give a shit. A protagonist who still cares by the ending of the game chooses the Strauss ending. A protag who doesn't care chooses the Independent ending where they end by letting Lacroix have his little armageddon apocalypse AND by flipping off the anarchs
>>724346932Furries still need to die in a fire
>>724347280>people like role-playing in a TTRPG setting?
>>724347193It's not pushing any boundaries but it looks solid for what it is.Really my only complaint about the visuals are that they're uninspired and lipsync quality ranges from Deus Ex 1 to Mass Effect 3.
>>7243474241 is a far better game for many reasons but the combat isn’t why, the combat is mostly ass, one of the few things 2 probably does a bit better
>>724347419None of the creators doing WoD are Zoomers so i don't think he's mistaking them for millennials
>>724347321>I'm surprised the Garou even struggle in WoDLack of IQ above 65, the amazing ability to shoot themselves in the foot at evey opportunity and having made a lot of enemies both human and supernatural. They're too stupid to cash in on the fact people would be lining up to fuck them.
>>724347331Wraith is surprisingly interesting but I wouldn't call either of the games good
>>724347424The way the different clans approach combat also feel different from one another, in 2 they all play the same
>>724347424>can use various melee weapons>can use gunsAgreed but besides these two the combat in 1 was just shit. It's more of a missing feature in 2. The combat in 2 just flows a whole lot better if you just use fists and your disciplines and ignore using telekinesis to shoot a fucking gun which I agree is the gayest shit ever
>>724346721the unreal engine 5 assets they pulled from the fab store look great.
>>724347538The combat is perfectly fine and even FUN if you are not mentally retarded and understand how the directional attacks work and that you can combo cancel to fling around your prey like ping ping balls across the room.
>>724347579Isn’t justice basically vampire dishonored in vr?
>>724347618>>724347424I think when people say the combat in 2 is better they mean it's more visceral and kinetic.Because the reality is that it might look better initially but it's actually really repetitive and boring with very few options.
How many vampire are in the world in general and in cities in particular? I was reading the wiki and it noted that in Vancouver (not sure if city or metro) there's a maximum of 20 permanent kindred and in the VTMR manuel there' a part that noted that:>a vampire in a sizable city may go a decade or more without ever seeing another Kindred, so of what use is a sect?After playing VTMR, VTMB (and probably VTMB 2) I assumed there were way more vampires than those statements imply, but I guess that's not the case?
>>724346854are you the game-maker anon?
>>724347439But anon the anarch ending is the same, you also let Lacroix open it, and in that ending you care.And even if you don't care in the independent ending, apycalypse or worse, Lacroix diablerizing an elder is a threat even to the fledgling itself.
>>724347346>Thinblood vampiresWow, that's like the shitties type of vampire you could run into. >secret hunter societiesI genuinely hope they do something with this instead of using your usual big names like the coalition or the SoL
>>724346854I would want it to be GTA with vampires. With a big city, driving, lots of NPCs at night, lots of clubs and places you can go inside, being able to buy clothes, etc.
>>724347762>they mean it's more visceral and kinetic.They mean "animation good small brain happy"Which means nothing at all to someone who's not a subhuman.
>>724347794it should 1 Vampire = 10,000 Humansbut it's probably closer 1 = 5000 or even 1000 humans
>>724347263>Wolf furry grimdark captain planetYes but also>play as a holy paladin of Gaia (very real)>consort with various spirits>tribal politics and ancestors>dealing with the dichotomy of being human and also not being human>killing actual monsters not just dudes and mechas>varied environments and actual umbra stuff>actual shapeshiftingThere's more going on than Captain Planet, and it's cool as shit. But yeah, it is dangerously furry
>>724347794No hard numbers. A number usually given is generally 1 for every 10,000 people but places can be different
>>724347794>>724348095If that's true then why do I run into these goobers at every street corner?
>>724347859>in that ending you careIn the anarch ending? At best fuck no you don't, and at worst you're a Damsel-tier antifa moron
>>724347550>Martín Ericsson>Gen X (failed Gen that gabe birth to zoomer fucks)>Karim Muamar (boomer holding shit together) >Kenneth Hite (another boomer holdin shit together)It's stupid to believe that the product is aimed at millenials when we grew up in the 90s which had a lot of influence from the 80s, grunge is gritty and we were taught to rebel against the system and not everyone unlike the tardpunks. GEN X tards are aiming these cringe products to their kids, because zoomtards are faggots that need bisexual lightnings and fag vampires.
>Ok, kindred, what are some of the more awesome high end powers that your clans have?Ventrue:>We can command masses by your mere gaze, turning them into obedient servants that will be ready to die for usTzimisce:>We conquer our domains with horrifying thralls, shapeshift as we desire, even as a fire breathing dragon, and can bend elements at our whims.Lasombra:>HIGASHIKATA JOSUKE! Omae wa Kono Nijimura Okuyasu no. ZA HANDO GAKESU! *BMMMMM* *deletes you into Oblivion*
>>724347331>EarthbloodMediocre, cool soundtrack though. Depends if you play with one hand or not>Wraith VRActually quite good past the first hour which is mostly just atmospheric>Vampire VRActually kino, it's Vampire dishonored mostly.
>>724346721The environmental art is still great when you aren't outsideSome of those interiors are insanely detailed
I don't care if it's possible in the table top. Phyre being able to learn every single fucking clan abilities is so fucking cringe.What's the point of there being clans and them being so important to the setting if every Joe can just walk up to another clan and learn all their fucking powers?Even better, who the fuck picks a clan and uses powers of other clans? If you picked Brujah you wanted your fucking punching powerfantasy why the fuck would you want to go around kissing people and using shadow magic as brujah?It's stupid. IT'S STUPID. It also ruins any sort of replayability.
>>724348138Ghouls are not vampires and like BOTH posts said, if you could read they say that more vampires is common
>>724348076It's not C:tD wasn't dangerously Otherkin
what a slut, you just know she wears sexy lingerie under the habit
>>724347424There really is no getting away from zoomers.They'll play this for 10 seconds then murmur some meme word to themselves like "jank" or w/e then go on the internet pretending they're oldfags giving advice how gameplay they can't put up with was actually "always bad"
>>724348349You're a ghoul motherfucker.
>>724348346Because the clans have different internal and external politics? Which is the point of vtm?
>>724347794I remember a line from VTMB about how "baron of Santa Monica" is a pitiful title because there's only a handful of kindred that live there. In the game, there's only four. Therese, Bertram Tung, the Cathayan, and (You). Technically five during the opening cutscene before your sire is executed. Meanwhile the human population in 2003 was over 80,000.
After playing Amnesia i hate the concept of Ghouls in VTM.So you just feed someone your blood and they remain exactly the same, just they fall in love with you? Lame. And gay.
Can someone please ban the retard that keeps spamming these threads with his redemption screenshots
>>724347794West coast probably inherently has less vamps due to being much younger. Europe is likely teeming with bloodsuckers
>>724348436>Because the clans have different internal and external politics?Such as? They have nothing making them special anymore, specially when the writers love their "what if we make a brujah... who lvoes the establishment and suits?" "what if we make a ventrue... who is a hobo!?", etc.If any clan has access to all the powers and stuff from other clans there shouldn't be clans. It's stupid. Brujah shouldn't be able to use blood magic. Tremere shouldn't be able to go into frenzy punching people.
>>724348346Choices are.....LE BAD have everything EVERYTHING
>>724348442Kuei-jin aren't Kindred. They were made undead by some retard eastern cultivation semen retention magic not because of the Cainite curse
>>724348515>mods, ban this guy for playing the video game the thread is aboutInsanely based.
>>724348474>they remain exactly the sameNo? They live longer and become physically stronger.
>>724348346It's extremely rare for vampires to know that many abilities from wildly different clans even elders, I doubt you'd ever see a character like that in a tabletop game unless the GM is smoking something or wants to show off with a DMPC, it's dumb as fuck, to get even 1 another clan's discipline would be a whole story in itself.
be honest, his story was somewhat interesting
>>724348346Todd Howardism has been a plague RPGs since Skyrim released
>>724348564>Such as? Did you play attention for even 1 second in bl1 and 2? Even a vtm secondary like you would've been able to see it
>>724347562They could be Glass Walkers, but yeah As of V5 there's no kinfolk so no reason for Garou to really breed to make Garou since it's RNG
>>724348515Yo who's posting redemption? LETS GOOOOO holy shit that game is awful
>>724348346>replayabilityIt's a story game. You don't play it twice. That's why they let everyone use all the powers.
>>724348627Posting video-games on /v/ is a serious offense.
>>724347579It's a good horror game, rather novel for what it is since it's competent and actually doesn't make you feel powerless>>724347693it's a bit like bootleg dishonored>>724346854I keep telling anons here that a full on vampire detective game could be KINO
>>724348627Ban him, he should find some friends to talk to the game about and watch him play instead of posting screenshots that no one is replying to because the game is trash. Or are contrarian zoomers going to pretend redemption is good now that bl2 is out?
>>724348673I want a mod that restricts the ability to use them, though i suppose, one could just not level them up
>>724348746>spoiler Yeah, but W5 Lore changes were complete shit and don't make much sense
>>724346721Jumping between rooftops and climbing up buildings is really cool at first. But it ends up feeling hollow because theres nothing to actually explore in Seattle. It doesn't take long before going between mission objectives just starts feeling tedious because the city is so empty. But this kind of movement would be really fun if there was anything actually worth doing or seeing there.
>>724348706>I'm malkavian and I'm crazyYeah real interesting
>>724347794I just don't take new world vampire thing seriously.
>>724348346It's in the tabletop
>>724348442Worth noting that Vtmb only takes place in a small segment of the select areas and noticeably condenses the amount of visible kindred to keep characters interesting, the Giovanni had like 10 vampires in their mansion alone
>>724348773>you don't need RPG elements>You don't need it to be replayable>you don't need clans>all you need is a stupid kill animation and you will be happy dark ages kind of grim, is the average normalfag that stupid?
>>724348841Not everything is an argument or bait for (you)s or an -oomer thing dude, you're fucking mindbroken kek>i have entered the video games board and now I am seeing pictures of video games. How could this happen to me?
>>724348746>spoilerWe do NOT talk about nu-WoD
>>724348912its a lot cooler and deeper than that you are generalizing or didn't play the game
When are we getting my Salubros
>>724348515I'm glad more people know about Redemption now.
>>724348547That makes sense. The wiki also said that the prince in Vancouver, Siegfried is a dictator who grew sick of the Jyhad and presumably wants other kindred to fuck right off.
>>724348353C:tD has it's own appeal, but people that want to jerk it to woofs want to jerk it to woofs because they're 9 foot tall murdermachines, not just because they're just wolves
>>724348706yeah, very body positive too
>>724346221>Where do you think things go vidya wise from here?It has probably killed any possibility of a good Bloodlines 3 or even of a Bloodlines 3 at all.I hate this timeline.>>724347653Melee is better than the first game but that's a very very low bar.Some of the powers are cool, I liked that you can use dead bodies to shield yourself from bullets with telekinesis and even toss them at enemies.Game became way more enjoyable for me once I got the other clan passives (especially the one that fills up your movement powers and the Tremere one) because I could use your powers more often.Honestly they should've designed it so you can use your powers more often since the melee isn't great.Stealth gameplay while nothing too fancy does its job fairly well (by modern game standards), you can toss items/bodies to bait people to certain areas, silence people, teleport around, teleport near enemies, use vantage points.As a Banu Haqim you can even use the lasombra teleport in combat to appear behind the enemy at the back of a pack, drain him and then be completely silent as you take them out stealthily one by one working your way to the front of the pack of enemies looking for you. Even when fighting those tougher enemies you can teleport behind them, do the E interact attack from behind, follow with your bladed arm thing, hit them a few times, drain them, then teleport to a new enemy etc. The only enemies that gave me trouble were the Unbirthed.I liked the atmosphere. Winter was a good choice.Traversal felt good.Story and characters were interesting enough to keep me going and wanting to see it to the end.
>>724348706I uninstalled because i thought the game was boring and runs like shit, is the story really that Tremere bitch Safia who acts like a Tzmisci being in love with Fabian fat sire and trying to revive him through Phyre?If so, that plot is so stupid, the "mighty 400 year old nomad" who can't even be Malkavian, can be female and is so ugly ugly and skinny was gonnabe the fat malkavian reborn?
>>724349234Second (you) was meant for >>724346721
>>724348876I agree wholeheartedly but games will be using W5 from now on unfortunately
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>>724349140A most of the sourcebooks that cover a city were made so long ago that their canon is questionable. The only one I would comfortably say is canon is the V5 Chicago one. The game really encourages you to come up with the Camarilla court yourself anyway
>>724349419masquerade violation
>>724349029Unfortunate
>>724346221>bloodlines 1 not on salefuck
>>724347901>SoLthey will never properly include them since being an Inquisitor would be too cool for the retards that run paradox. now that I think about it I don't even know if I'd want to play the butchered version of the society that we have now.
>>724348673>It's extremely rare for vampires to know that many abilities from wildly different clans even eldersYeah except you're wrong. I don't know how it is in v5 but in older editions typically every character sheet had multiple disciplines not traditionally associated with that vampire's clan. For instance Smiling Jack knows fucking Auspex, Fortitude and Thaumaturgy and he's 10th generation.
>>724349419>>724347036Looks worse than the first game
>>724349419Can you go inside that building?
>>724348706>be honest, his story was somewhat interestingTell me about it. I won't play the game anyway.
>>724349546No.
>>724349234>It has probably killed any possibility of a good Bloodlines 3 or even of a Bloodlines 3 at all.Good. Unironically fuck Bloodlines. Fuck the Voermans too. Kazi is my waifu.
>>724349465It's not worth it, hell, it's plain disrespectful to the source material.
>>724349567What a waste of polygons...
>>724348369her habit can't hide that hot body
>They have an IP basically built for Southern Gothic>None of the games and
>>724349583At this point I think a fanmade setting would be better than VTM anyway. It's not like they copyrighted the traits of the setting, it's just names. And some parts like werewolves have sucked from the start.
>>724349618In many ways, it’s like TCR looked at base cyberpunk and said, yup this is exactly what we want, and then polished it out compared to that at release and will probably never improve it
>>724347538no. thats only a first glance impression. the combat in 2 is utterly simplistic and broken as fuck because it constantly forces you to dodge and counter fucking ghouls as a fucking elder. even fucking typing that out feels retarded.once you got your baseline stats into guns, some decent gear, spells - then combat in 1 becomes decent and you actually progress with all three of those aspects.meanwhile in 2 all your combat aspects are fucking dogshit and they never improve unless you want to count the hilarious bonuses from learning all clan skills after drinking fucking dozens of npcs. the fucking powers are just a complete admission by chink room that they do not have any understanding of action games whatsoever and can barely manage walking sims.
>>724349668Vtm is about being cool vampires in cities not retard hillbilly vampires in a swamp
got some modded bloodlines 2https://youtu.be/JWyrn5iaahw
>>724349668Here's your're southern vampires bro.
>>724349584Yeah, probably, but I'll get to enjoy the art at least
>>724349741>Vtm is about being cool vampiresMaybe before v5 it was
>>724349741>>724349787Southern Gothic is more about uncovering a mystery ala a Hunter game it's not necessarily tied to the South.For example in Destiny 2, Savathun's VA might be black, but her expansion was basically Southern Gothic in space and it was pretty kino
>>724349498Hell in Redemption Cristoph can learn a shit ton of disciplines ranging from Obfuscate to Mortis to Serpentis and he's a fucking Brujah.
>>724348841Redemption is good if you install age of redemptionhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1920343413
>>724349783You are mentally ill
I never bothered taking a screenshot, but there is what seems to be a small painting gallery with blood smeared everywhere. You can see it thought the glass windows and doors from the streets. I did the main story and every """sidequest""" except for collectibles, but the game never sends you to that gallery. What's up with that?Do not mistake me talking about this game as an endorsement, I'm just curious and the game is ass.
>>724349951based
>>724349996Also I'm gay and my dick is small
>>724350030preach xister
>>724349783>heavily modded
>>724349996Also I'm a big black man with a big black penis and I fuck white women every night and I have a 200 iq and have a billion dollars
>>724347146It also changes their damage output, you go from getting raped in a head on fight by any group of more than 2 or 3 to being able to 1v6 most packs.I hated doing it but painstakingly stealth killing and thrown object distracting my way through the construction site only for the top of the tower to glitch out and close off pissed me off so badly I probably wouldn't finish the game if I weren't "cheating" through it.
People who play as female are trans.
>>724350070>>724350030Get this fucking Malk off the computer
>>724350056I am mean its not skyrim level modded but, if you played the game you would see some cool stuff
Playing this gave me a new perspective that as much as people bitch about games like Elder Scrolls, the world in games like that actually feel alive and you can enter most places. The world here is nothing more than just an object
>>724349996Just a reference to the first game.
>>724350260>bashing your face on the keyboard with 100 reshade shaders is "cool stuff"Get some help, buddy.
>>724346754>The protag doesn't know it's filled with TNT. If you genuinely believe opening it could trigger the apocalypse, why let Lacroix open it? Just walking away is such a 4th wall breaking option because eveyorne already read on the internet you die if you open it.Holy fuck I somehow never though of this. I just thought it was retarded how it the coffin was just a huge anticlimax because "lmao the source is that I made it the fuck up t. Jack"I got the Strauss ending at first when I played it blind and was underwhelmed beyond all fucking belief when I found out what was actually in the box. But what you said is an even better criticism than just thinking the writing was gay and retarded.
>>724350264>the world in games like that actually feel alive and you can enter most places.When the largest city in your game is barely even a dozen houses this is not hard to achieve.
>>724348346>What's the point of there being clans and them being so important to the setting if every Joe can just walk up to another clan and learn all their fucking powers?There isn't any in bloodlines 2. But clan is a kind of family unit, and belonging to one is important. VTM has the tagline of "gothic horror", right? It's about the past haunting the present. It's about the sins, hatreds, obligations and feuds of your sire, and their sire and so on all the way back to cain resonating in the present. This applies to everything from Gehenna scenarios where the Antedeluvians rise to devour their children to the subtle manipulations of the Jyhad to your sire embracing you for a specific purpose probably and being able to make sure you play your part. That's the scary part of vampire. Your elders are smarter, stronger, and more cruel than you. The past never goes away. Cannot be overcome.
>>724349315MC can't choose malkavian because of Fabien you play half the game as malkavian already>>724349562He's one of two Malkavian in the entire game that figures out the prince of Seattle's dirty secrets very easily back in the 1920s and she ended up trapping him in the Seattle underground where he lost his mind over time and ends up mind raping both the MC and the princ (who trapped him 100 years ago) in the current time from his comfy illusory sunflower field that he made.
>>724350472Sure, but it’s a fuckton better than the lifeless husk that vtmb2 is and maybe it’s poetic it’s a lifeless husk being kept alive for no reason than to harvest money
>>724349498>>724349908Jack is actually the same age as the nomad (~1600) and he has those extra disciplines at a low level, which is to be expected, meanwhile le Nomad is a master of everything, it reeks of DMPC.
>>724350421I think you might be projecting here
>>724349546You can't get anywhere, it's nothing like the first game.
>>724350472VTMB2 has less and worse interiors than the first game even
>>724350608I used Jack as one example. Like I said it was very common for character sheets to have a shitload of different disciplines.
>>724349315Saphia was the biggest downturn for me. I get that she's a scheming Tremere cunt but why make her look like an autistic nerd in the first place? Also, Tremere are Camarilla to the core and they'd never do something THIS dumb.
>>724350472A compact hub with interiors > a big city with no interiorsDensity matters.
>>724350472>When the largest city in your game is barely even a dozen houses this is not hard to achieve.This is unironically preferable to the alternative. Skyrim feels like a lived in place precisely because it's at a scale where I as an individual can grasp it in its totality and get a feel for its unique characteristic. It's been a long time since I played Skyrim but I can tell you a little tidbit or two about pretty much any city. I can visualize the various streets and alleys and recall fragments of conversation. Compare that to something like The Witcher 3. I couldn't tell you shit about its cities. I can recall some sidequests and some characters but I couldn't tell you anything about the cities, their flavor/character or its inhabitants, even though they were more impressive in scope and more lifelike in terms of presentation.Where Skyrim goes wrong is that it doesn't match its small scale with the appropriate depth.
>>724350619I've looked through your vids and ALL of them have agressive ambient occlusion bleeding, overdone colors, overshapened filter and much more of that nonsense.You are the very reason reshade gets a bad name because you are an utter fucking mongoloid with no clue on how to use it properly.
is redemption THAT bad? I want more bloodlines, but 2 looks terrible
>>724350126im trans desu
>>724350472Vtmb2 isn’t even a huge area at all
>>724350851yes it's really fucking bad, also barely related to bloodlines. Play it before asking you retarded dumbfuck, game is like 20 mb
>>724350718Yeah but it's usually because of their
>>724349951Nta, but I decided to go without that because it apparently rebalances some things. Fixes to the pathfinding would be great though. What's with VTM game mods and not having a version that fixes just the bugs?
>>724350851Redemption is awesome. It has SOVL, hot vampire chicks who understand you, a ghoul girl you love and no niggers.
So no one gives a shit that she was back for like one mission LOL, I fucking hate VTMB2 so much, it isnt a bad "game" but it should of never been a sequel to a game.
>>724350995Samuel the Nosferatu is black you dumb brownoid
>>724350841I all appericate the watches, I am sure your gameplay is amazing
>>724351031People are trying to pretend this didn't happen because she's ugly as fuck (like every other character in the game)
>>724349562>Malk who got trapped in a ruin by a camarilla prince>Somehow survived for decades without blood>Also mind controls an army of sabbat >Also also drives the camarilla prince insaneAnd no, none of this bullshit is explained in the game.
>>724350851Yes. If you need more vtm play the coya games or make some friends for once in your life and play the TTRPG
>>724351054Yes saar gameplay good saar, redeem the martymcfly shaders saar
>>724351046>Samuel the Nosferatu is black you dumb brownoidbro he's already a nosferatu, don't make it worse
>>724351031>should of
>>724351031They couldn't of hired a more annoying VA if they got Ada from RE4R to do it. This company can't fucking do anything right.
>>724350472>>724350793They should've just removed the parkour and split the game into hubs with more interiors.There are like 6 main locations anyway with most of the cities' square footage being filler.
>>724351152oh I was right about the projection thing lol
VV > Jeanette > Heather > Therese > Ming Xiao > dogshit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Damsel
>>724351489Serena mogs all of them
Imagine driving VV into a frenzy inside her own stripclub haha
>>724351375You don't even know what that word means
>>724347273>>724347036>>724349419I'd like it more if it were one hub among many, this Seattle is nice, but it's not 60 dollars game worth.
>>724348617Is there a loremaster here who can give me a quick rundown on why the Kuei-jin in VtMB transforms into a shoggoth monster for the boss fight?
>>724351031She looks like man and is only there to scold the player for being railroaded by the game's plot.
i dont understand how safia convinced her to turn sabbat. safia/gardenerehad a personal grudge against lou but what was ysabella's motivation??
>>724351523Maybe on planet retard
>>724350949Interesting. I hadn't considered that it was because of their
>>724351821My bad retard moment, it's cause of being Elders but elders aren't going to have every discipline maxed like that
>>724351106>Malk who got trapped in a ruin by a camarilla princeexplained in the game>Somehow survived for decades without bloodsafia obviously brings him food>Also mind controls an army of sabbat?? not sure where this is implied, fabien even mentions hes too crazy to control an army>Also also drives the camarilla prince insaneexplained in the game
>>724351731profound mental retardation like all antitribu
>>724351731she was just fucking crazy and wanted to make art, the story is so inconsistent and makes no sense, and god it was so obvious that it was safia the whole time because what kind of vampire acts so nice to everyone and not have one thing wrong with her? THEY'RE FUCKING VAMPIRES, NONE OF THEM ARE "GOOD"
>>724351983Salubri are
>>724351225He might be black, but that was no nigger
>>724346221>Constantly Snowing>Seattle
PURPLE BLUE RED PURPLE BLUE RED PURPLE BLUE RED KEEPS RAPING MY EYESAAAAAAAAAAA
>>724352191It's supposed to be a blizzard.But you can tell the people who made the game have never seen snow.The diners all have a bunch of tables outside with umbrellas open, people driving their Harley's in a snow storm, etc
>>724351926>it's cause of being EldersThese characters aren't even elders. Some 10th gen kindred from the 20th century could have multiple disciplines. Shit was very common and probably still is in v5. How many disciplines are in this game anyway? 8? That's not unheard of for an Elder.
>>724352295You can tell the people who made the game have never been to an American city, especially Seattle
>>724350851It can be quite difficult to get into. I've been playing a lot of older games lately so the transition probably wasn't as bad for me as had been or would be to other anons. The story is quite entertaining (but different from VTMB) and early on the gameplay can be a large hurdle. It was quite tough, but after a certain point I'd abused Shambling Hordes (for xp), obtained the op spell tome blood rituals (has Prison of Ice) and levelled manipulation to 80 (and had equipped two +5 manipulation rings for infinite money) for all of the best gear (including items which can permanently increase you blood pool) and with all of those combat is pretty quick and painless.
>>724352461Bizarrely enough Britain gets snow so it really makes no sense
>>724352461the seattle underground stuff was pretty accurate
>>724352582They barely get any snow at all. Same with Seattle.
>>724351971>safia obviously brings him foodHow did she find him?How did she repeatedly get inside the ruin unnoticed when the only entrance is underneath the princes haven?Why didn't she free him?>?? not sure where this is implied, fabien even mentions hes too crazy to control an armyHe was constantly talking about his moon flowers (unbirthed) being unleashed>explained in the gameWhat was the explanation? Don't bother replying if it boiled down to "It's malks ain't gotta explain shit".
>>724352582Not where this developer is located interestingly enough. It rarely drops below 0.
>>724352590That was interesting, I didn't know about that so at least I learned something new from the game, but like everything else, it was badly executed, it's this game's sewer section, just a combat gauntlet.
If I was a Tzimisce I'd fleshcraft you all into Indians and send you into the sewers
crazy how every chick in 1 looks pretty hot
>>724352817What if I’m already Ravnos sir
>>724352582Cambridge rarely gets snow, even compared to other parts of the UK
I'm glad VTMB 2 has a smaller cast than VTMB 1, it always bothered me 99% of the characters you meet and fight in VTMB 1 are vampires. Vampires are not supposed to be 99% of the population of the world, they are like 0,000001%.But holy shit if VTMB2 was gonna have such a small cast couldn't they make them interesting?And did we really need 2 girl boss asian dykes as leader of both camarilla and anarchs?Campbell and Benny were too cool to be killed off so early.
>try to give the suck to one of the guards, but he resists>after I kill one I use blood buff to increase my strength enough so now I can suck him successfuly without having to fight him as I was getting low on healthIt's so nice when a game has these systems that work together.>>724350851I almost quit it before someone recommended me this guide: >>724349951It's a pretty good game once you get into it, has a lot more depth than VTMB2.
>>724353017That’s so bizarre since the UK in general is pretty far north
>>724353086Is this entire game set in medieval time period? It looks cool but I'm not really in the mood for older settings rn so I might save it for christmas or some other time.
>>724353069I think if you were to break it down then roughly half the cast of 1 are vampires.
>>724353176Gulf Stream keeps it pretty warm, the Outer Hebrides of Scotland, you can grow Palm Tress for reference(if small and squat they will grow)
>>724352693>How did she find him?idk but its implied she knows where he is due to the whole plan of having phyre diablerize him/the mark>How did she repeatedly get inside the ruin unnoticed when the only entrance is underneath the princes haven?the was not the only entrance, they mention multiple times that there are multiple entrances. particularly in regards to the CURRENT DAY rebar killings (fabien mentions something along the lines of how all of the killings take place near an entrance to the underground) >Why didn't she free him?she mentions something about trying to free him (mentally but maybe also physically?) but being unable to which is the motivation for researching/creating the mark>He was constantly talking about his moon flowers (unbirthed) being unleashedmentioned in the game that they're unleashed with a lot of blood (i.e. the stuff happening at the atrium/very end) so i assume theyre not really controlled moreso directed.
>>724351731no reasonjust that the devs are retards
>>724353242The first half is medieval times the second half is set in 1999>>724353176American education hard at work again I see
>>724353242No, I just started playing, but I've seen screenshots and people saying that it timeskips to the modern era and I'm looking forward to that.
>>724353176Geography is fucky. Rome is further north than New York City. The jet stream and climates and other factors I'm too dumb to comprehend allow for most of Europe to be less frigid than one would assume.
>>724353242The first half is set in Prague and Vienna of 1141 AD. The other half is London and the NYC 1999.
>>724353385>>724353386oh shit that's pretty neat, danks
>>724350989All the rebalances make it better imo, you kill the enemy faster, otherwise it feels like Morrowind.
>>724353385Well most places that are closer to the north pole tend to have more snow, like Russia, Canada, etc. The precise geography of a foreign country isn’t exactly something i focus on
>>724351363Game may have been much better if that were the case
does this symbol have any significance? it stood out from the rest of the room and its one of my only screenshots from my playthrough of bloodlines 2
>>724351983Just because you're an undead predator doesn't mean you have to be a dick
>>724353470Sorry I'm just being a pedant about it. You wouldn't believe how many people still think that being up north automatically means cold. Scandinavia for instance isn't very cold at all compared to places like Hokkaido, Russia, Canada and the American Midwest which are much colder and see a lot more annual snowfall. Fucking palm trees grow in Ireland and parts of Britain because of the damn Gulf Stream.
>>724353452a little adviceFirearms suck in this game. Just use melee.
>>724353540this looks like something straight out of dishonored
>>724351731I guess it's something they'll touch upon in the DLC.They announced 2 DLCs: one where you play as Ysabella and one where you play as Benny.Honestly I don't see myself going back to this game so it's whatever for me....
>>724354031Wow, two characters that annoyed the fuck out of me and I want nothing to do with.Great choices.
>>724351031>it isnt a bad "game"It isHaving a worse combat than the first one is inexcusable , not everyone is retarded enough to be fooled by dogshit QTEs executions.
>>724354240lol
>>724346464fpbp
>>724346721soundtrack and traversal.
>>724354410>soundtrackis shit 75% of the time
>>724354410>soundtrackRedemption was better
>>724354240modern devs need to be skinned alive and rolled in chilli salt then showered in vinegar.
>>724354240why even have the fucking dialogue prompt to leave, is it meant to be a narrative thing storywise where the person being shown the flashback is trying to get away from the horseshit story?
>>724352052>>724353716well she wasn't Salubri, she was an annoying fucking tremeres as usual, tremeres suck and will always suck
>>724354240>>724354270>>724354603It's a flashbackThe actual game isn't much better though. Why be disingenuous when your argument is correct and easy to demonstrate properly?
>>724354676>they made it shit on purposeYeah, that's why we are upset.
>>724354676Those flashbacks are like 40% of the game
>>724354676>Why be disingenuousHow is this disingenuous? They give you an option to leave but you can't actually leave.
>>724354641say thanks to telltale, those cocksuckers popularised the illusion of choice and showed that mongoloids lap it up.
>>724354676>yes this happens and it's shit and the rest of the game is no better>but you're disingenuous for posting a video of the game doing this
>>724354754100%. I feel robbed at 19 hours and I enjoyed very little of the experience.
>>724354175Is Benny even in the game long enough to annoy you?
Yeah I'm gonna play clan quest again and listen to the latina mommy vampire be rude to me
>>724351983High Humanity vamps are actually very nice. Granted, the older you get, the more difficult it is for you to retain high Humanity, but even it's not unheard of.I heard Christof Romuald is a very nice guy, and he's ancient.
Bloodlines 2 CONS>Sidequests garbage>No FPS gunplay>No 3rd person view>Only 1 city area/haven>No clubs and dancing>No memorable soundtrack>No TV newscaster>No RPG elements>World is barebones/ barely any interactivity/ less depth >No scares/ spooky moments>No sex appeal>Barely any dry humor>No werewolves >No taxi TCR basically sucked the blood out of Bloodlines and left an empty shell of it, feel free to add more to my con list
>>724346221The worst thing about Bloodlines 2 is that the combat is just barely good enough for me to see a lot of potential in it and now I'm bummed that I don't have a good game to do some cool Lasombra stealth shadow magic in.
>>724355185>No scares/ spooky momentsHonestly the Oceanside Hotel is so great because the first time you're playing the game, it happens so early that much like for the fledgling, the player really may not be in the mindset that they're a vampire and not a human. Is there really nothing like that in Bloodlines 2?
>faggots both in 4chan and outside were bitching and dilating about the COMBAT in a VTMB sequel due to a pre-alpha video that still clearly managed to showcaseda much tighter connection to Bloodlines 1 and was an actual rpg to boothttps://youtu.be/6xRCZePzzqMHope you are happy now manchildren. The sooner you realize that you will never re-experience 1:1 the things of your youth and that's natural, the healthier you'll become mentalwise.
Dude the voice acting and writing for the radio bits are so fucking bad.
>>724353086>It's a pretty good game once you get into it, has a lot more depth than VTMB2.yes
>>724355342the closest thing to a spooky segment is probably when u first enter seattle underground and track a bunch of claw marks to find the unbirthed. there are some "jumpscares" where they are running off the map behind objects and shit and you can hear them scraping around a little but nothing like oceanview
>>724351731Something about throwing off the masquerade because all art is violence.
>>724355495>enter seattle underground and track a bunch of claw marks to find the unbirthed.This just sounds like a normal night in seattle near an abortion clinic
>>724355375You are right things should be better not worse. Good bye chinese room, Goodbye Obsidian, you and your team of dykes and niggers will not be missed.
>>724351031Nobody cares about Damsel. Safia is my new wife now.
>>724355342Nope maybe once you reach the underground and meet the unbirthed but you're an elder and you go and fuck em up
>>724355375All the "rpg" stuff in that video is fake. The leaked warehouse and hospital footage shows no choices, no skills, nothing. HSL weren't making an RPG. They just added fake vertical slice RPG stuff to the public demo because that's what fans of 1 wanted to see.
>>724354410No
>>724355847Masquerade Status: Broken
>>724355771>They just added fake vertical slice RPG stuff to the public demo because that's what fans of 1 wanted to see.and that's a bad thing because?
>>724355847Kino movement.
>>724355847At least the GDQ segment with this trash ass game will be short
>>724355847Incredible
>>724355342The dinosaur in the museum.
>>724356029Lying to the public and the publisher because you're incompetent is bad, actually.
I'll scream.
>>724346221I'm going to play bloodlines for the first time, any mod recommendations?
>>724355847>dropkick dashingabsolutely kino speedtech, game may be shit but devs will be slightly more based if they leave this in
I love how you can air juggle enemies in 2.
>>724353086Awe is good for feeding too. Glad you're enjoying it anon.
>>724356471lol i saw one in trip's pawnshop and thought the same thing
I like how there are so many awful things wrong with this game that almost nobody mentions that there's a giant fucking ring in the center of the screen that expands and contracts to tell you where interactables are when you're close by
>>724356609What's wrong with it? It's a good mechanic to guide the player.
>>724356203I love how shit and out of place it looks its really funny
>>724354676>Why be disingenuouswhy be retarded
>>724356203There's some combat inconsistencies that really bug me. Pulling someone into a charged attack should work, but instead my attack is always delayed long enough for them to not only stand up, but to hit or push me first. Whereas I can do a standard charge and the timing is much quicker, which is infuriating.I can charge someone off a ledge but if they go into the kill state, I can hover in mid-air and drain or kill them.Standard fucking ghouls can dodge gunfire from a gun I am telepathically holding and move faster than a vampire.Cops are telepathic themselves, somehow knowing I've committed some phantom crime and can see and follow me through walls and up buildings, building the Masquerade meter. Enemies leashing on to you with melee attacks is absurd and pushed up to 11, swinging at me from 20 feet away and connecting.The game is sadly a 5/10 and I don't think patches or DLCs will help in any meaningful way.
>>724347653This disgusts me more than anything else they fucked up
>>724355847>local great grandfather learns to skate and defy nature and air dynamicsMasquerade Broken
>>724356609there's a hundred other dogshit aspects that are (somehow) more in your face than the click thing indicator
>>724356609Well mostly because a lot of people are just not fucking playing it.I was extremely excited about it but reminder that the first trailer was SIX FUCKING YEARS AGO.I was extremely iffy about it then it was actually looking quite promising.Then it went to shit as we learned more, the development exploded and just got even worse somehow.I've watched/read/seen enough of it to know there's no point in playing it, the characters sounds like dogshit, the writing is laughable, the art design if you can call it that is horrible, etc.The gameplay seems OK but if all these other things fail then there's no point in making a VTMB sequel.MAYBE in like 5 years when it's sale for like 5 bucks but right now I would rather replay VTMB with a ton of mods I never tried before.Life's too short to play mediocre slop like this when I have so many quality games in my backlog.
>>724355847That looks fun though.
>>724356157I played with wesps unofficial patch.
Man, even the randos are hotties
If you don't see bloodlines 2 as the worst thing ever made (ue5 mediocre project with mediocre gameplay) you don't deserve to post in 4chinz. You don't have the brain to do so.
>>724357832>you don't deserve to post in 4chinz.No offense, man, but the bar is set real low these days to post here.
>>724357573love killing these BADDIES in the hotel
I always wondered why people complained about the combat here and while it is not the best, it's definitely not unplayable and it's kinda standard for the era, I also never understood why people say guns suck.Then I finally played a melee build and holy shit this sucks ass, constantly missing, it's just mashing and there's no real strategy or skill, it's boring as shit and now everything makes sense.I think these niggers just played melee every single time and after trying guns with almost no points they decided they were unplayable, because guns are actually really fucking fun and strong as shit once you build for them.>>724358031The bar has always been low and it's always been full of misfits/almost misfits/people looking for less moderated more "real" discussion, but most of the big boards have been taken over by people actually thinking the shitposting was 100% real and not played up for laughs, mainly after the election./v/ has been like this for a long time now, you could find a haven in stuff like Metroid/Castlevania/VTM/Deus ex/niche threads or offtopic threads like deep sea/animal shit but all these have gotten a lot worse overtime because new games/material put more eyes on these threads and that comes with a lot of retards looking for attention.
>>724358279BUY A WATC-ACK
>>724355847thats sick
>>724358294midwit braindead retard
>>724358294Most people probably only got max 4 ranged and thought all the guns suck; were probably Brujah unga bunga buffoons that couldn't read the character sheet as well. It's to be expected.Second to last run was a melee Nossie and it dominated the whole game, but Obfuscate will do that.
>>724358967I like his voice, he was chill desu, he sounded like niko belic in a way
>>724351031>she was back for like one missionThat's an overstatement, you talk to her for maybe 30 seconds and that's it.
>>724358967okay but can it play angry birds?
>>724359005It's not that melee isn't strong but it's just so fucking boring.
any know any mods to fuck around with like clan quest for a new playthrough?
>>724359270While I agree, others could make the argument that point and click with a gun is also boring. Personally I like both for different clans or playthroughs, though I do wish the "hold a direction for attack" melee system functioned better.
yeah..
Will estrogen make ma better man?
>>724359295no the game came out, just mostly cheat mods and performance mods. you gotta wait like a year or two bro
>>724359630>>724359295I really doubt this game will have that kind of attention lmao.Doubly so when it's using fucking unreal.
>>724355847https://youtu.be/yBfBGtArHzk?&t=52
>>724358294>it's just mashing and there's no real strategy or skill,You get different melee combos depending on what movement key you're pressing before starting the combo. And you get one for standing still. You can also block with the tab key. If you just button mash the same combo over and over then the enemy starts blocking more and taking less damage. It's fine. People who complain about it generally seem to not understand how it works but to be fair that's probably partially due to the tutorial only explaining it in a text popup instead of actually making you do these things to ensure you understand. There's also a difference between blunt and bladed weapons when fighting supernatural enemies, not sure how many people are aware of that but they typically take less damage from blunt weapons.
>>724346464This
>>724358294Melee really isn't that bad, either. You are mashing a lot because damage falls off the more you repeat the same attack type. You have to mix it up to maximize your output.Or just crouch and find the rhythm for the first hit spam of the forward attack combo, which is actually the fastest DPS due to the animation.
>>724360767The leap move is pretty nice, yeah.
>>724356609the game without that would be even more painful, imagine searching for all the tine collectible itens around the giant empty space of the world?wait why the fuck are there about 200 different collectibles in this fucking game?
>>724360767>There's also a difference between blunt and bladed weapons when fighting supernatural enemiesThe bigger difference is weapons that do aggravated damage. Which is why you might actually do more damage with your claws as a gangrel than your best melee weapon.
>>724361104Sauce? That's a cute Tremere chick
>>724361137NY by Night.
>>724359270i legitimately never got bored of spin kicking 20 guys across the room and watching them splat on the wall.
>>724361137>That's a cute Tremere chickWe can do better.
installed the clan quest mod on a fresh install and it crashes when i click new gameanyone encountered this?
>>724361307Is it good or am I being baited by a few good frames>>724361360Why do all the cute girls like the psychopath backstabber faction
Thanks for all the support Part 2 coming soonhttps://youtu.be/Ybq3RVc0-FQ
>wanted to use the companion mod for the first time>But the one that works with the patched big version is the sanitized companion modoh fuck off
>>724361307NY by NUT
Which do you think works better for the fashion and/or narrative, male or female Phyre? They both look like shit so I can't decide.
>>724346221>bet of nightformally requesting everyone involved with bloodlines 2 get a meter of fiberglass run through their assholes.
>>724361704None of them work because the narrative doesn't work.
>>724361745>BetIs it supposed to be short for something? A pun that I'm missing? I don't get it.
>>724361704I feel like the game was clearly made for female Phyre first with how much more feminine the outfits look, I probably would respect them more if you could only play the chick. Either way though the game is pretty dysfunctional
>>724361794Word play on Deb of Night from VtMB. Yeah it's kind of soulless
>>724361425Damsel looks hideous.
>>724361794without even looking it up, i'm going to assume "bet" is short for elizabeth, referring to elizabeth bathory, pronounced eliza-bet, who was rumored to be a vampire for doing things like bathing in virgin blood.
>>724361745It doesn't help she sounds like a valley girl and has terrible delivery.
>>724361896Yeah but "Deb of Night" is a play on "dead of night". What the fuck is "Bet" supposed to be?
>>724361980It's just based on Deb
>>724362003And people will tell you the writing for this game isn't bad.
>>724361941Wouldn't Betty or Beth of/on Night be better then?
>>724361417>Is it good or am I being baited by a few good framesI think the first season of LA by Night might be the only one I'd recommend, if you're into that sort of thing. You'd have to be able to tolerate a dose of Cali liberal faggotry with either series as it's largely the same people involved, but I felt it was better in the beginning before it became routine.
>>724362067not if you're pronouncing elizabeth in hungarian, which has no h at the end, and also so it can be connected to deb.
So what do you think the future looks like for WoD in terms of vidya? Have any projects sold well?
>>724362056Everyone knew, the actual Meat of the story is salvageable but everything around it just isn't well written. The scenario itself is kind of decent>>724362082I don't mind cali liberal faggotry if it's contained doses and funny or neat, like in critical roll or whatever Brendan was doing before, but if it's hard to get into or boring then there's not much point watching it I actually love party backstabbers and god I hope the Tremere doesn't disappoint
>>724362135with this latest flop, it's probably 100% finished. as with all things, when you bet all your chips on the +/-0% of gay people on earth, you make 0 dollars, because even if you got the whole rainbow community to buy your game, that's still nobody.
>>724362132oh. That's not a terrible interpretation but it still feels a bit forced. Since it's the 2020s wouldn't them trying to do a podcast and not a direct deb of night allusion work better? I feel like it's just wasn't thought very well through
>>724362135Big AAA budget games? Dead in the water just like when Troika died after making Bloodlines, especially with any involvement by Paradox. AA indies or low budget games? Probably going to still be a good amount. May occasionally get the disco-styled RPG when it gets out of dev hell, or whatever the other dudes are working on with WoD. Don't expect a Bloodlines sequel unless some insane person does it indie or CDPR/Larian expresses interest. Maybe even owlcat when they ditch warhammer after this game
>>724362342>Since it's the 2020s wouldn't them trying to do a podcast and not a direct deb of night allusion work better?when the whole game is barely surface level allusion to bloodlines 1, a shitty radio show is about what i expected.
>>724362275>The scenario itself is kind of decentThis I can agree with for sure. I just take issue with people specifically saying the "writing" is good because characters are all incredibly reddit quippy with almost no personality. Fabien is the absolute worst example of this. Is there an interesting story there? Maybe. But the character's lines and spoken delivery are absolute bottom tier garbage
>>724362275If you can stand Critical Role and Dimension 20, then you're fine for this. Just know that it won't be very rules heavy and just theater nerds telling a story. It has it's good moments. Though if you're mostly interested in cute Tremere girls, you might prefer LA by Night. The Aisling chick is just a guest character that appears in maybe one or two episodes of NY by Night, but Eva is a regular in LA.
>>724362661even the vampire plebbit is a mixed bag. some are saying the writing is good, some are clowning on it. people are also pointing out how funny it is that the gay guy is a nosferatu, who has a line about being a blood sucking vampire is just like being gay lmao
>>724362596Ironic that the game is made worse in trying to be more like Bloodlines 1>>724362661I agree yeah. Fabien as a character is interesting but when you see his quirks and dialogue as a Malkavian he comes across as a M'lady type, not enough to be a funny parody but also too much to be taken seriously or be interesting in itself. The rest of the characters too just have very bizarre and unnatural lines while at least in Bloodlines 1 everyone spoke the way you imagined them speaking or the way their background would suggest
>>724362791>Won't be rules heavyI expect that from these anyway, Critical Roll basically ignores rulings in favor of scripting. As long as the story is interesting I don't mind, Norfolk Wizard game is good and it's particularly pretty rules-light
>>724362854they could have ripped off cyberpunk and came out the other end better off for it. play as a thin blood loser, find out what diablerie does. realize you're fucked no matter what, so it sounds better than just being a freak that can't do anything. rumors of an elder sleeping away start coming in, you find the elder because you're a loser and not concerned about gehenna or superstition because you don't know shit. diablerize him>oops, it's an elder malk>oops i can hear the malkavian networkas you play, whispers and hallucinations become more common. eventually you have johnny silvermalk in your head. you do quests for fake npcs, talk to a truck, sometimes have clarity, other times some of your dialog options are a different font and just total bullshit. game ends with the malkavian elder's personality taking over entirely, and now you're essentially an actual malkavian elder. i dunno, could be neat.
Remove Fabien from this game entirely and it would be better, plotholes this causes and all. It's fucking crazy that this is true
Combat in VTMB2 is so shit I had to turn the difficulty down to easy for the first time in my long gaming career when normally I load all the difficulty increase mods in existence.Who though that first-person melee combat should happen at sonic speed as you zoom around tight spaces while being zerged down and have an absolutely atrocious FOV? That shit was obviously meant for a twitch shooter and the first reiteration of the game did have guns, didn't it? Meanwhile here I'm just dashing into random shit and corners as the swarms of ghouls constantly leave my field of view and there's no space to actually navigate. Did they even playtest this shit? It's utterly disorienting.
>>724363106Wasn't that one of the original plot points in the game including the malk elder in your head? That honestly wouldn't be a bad idea since Fabien is clearly a Silverhand type anyway. Just too bad no one over at TCR or Paradox had any good taste whatsoever. I think if Fabien was actually an abrasive or strong personality instead of just a wet sponge he'd actually be well written
>>724363223>Wasn't that one of the original plot points in the game including the malk elder in your head?i have no idea. i was out when i saw the first hsl footage and it looked like beans.
>>724361745She sounds like an obese womans idea of what sexy is, and surprise, that's exactly what it is lmao. Minus the entertaining adds and callers of the first game, just a completely spineless modern take of it with no edge, fucking repulsive honestly. Deb was based.
>>724359630>>724360020sorry I shouldve mentioned I meant the first game
>>724355847this somehow wont break the masquerade, why even have the mechanic, just call it vampire bloodlines 2 at this point
>>724363313I miss the serial killer dude, he was actually quite cool
>>724363387Anon it's pretty obviously just a normal drop kick that due to lack of care/test maintains momentum and can be chained, just abusing a glitch.It's like saying a hobo seeing visions and throwing punches at the air is breaking the masquerade.
maaaaaan protean is cool but i do like throwing bugs at ppl
bet of night is the worst fucking shit I ever heard
>>724351031Wtf did they do to my girl? She looks like a fat fuck in drag
Call me a crazy optimist but i think over time people will mod this to make it, well, at least something decent
>the music sucks>the girls are all flat rectangle dykeswhy do this to me, i asked for so little
>>724363527Modders don't have the tools to add what this game needs. At best you will get texture/clothes replacers, other miscellaneous visual mods, and number tweaks on combat/other shit.
>>724363527You're a crazy optimist.
>>724363334the irony is that deb is exactly the kind of "girl boss" leftoids want strong women to be, but when they have to write then, they write a fucking retard that misses the point in every way possible. i could write a better character, and all i would have to do is write my wife, unironically, and they would call her misogynistic and fetishistic. leftoids ruined everything.
>>724363527It's unreal engine 5 anon, you're not seeing any fucking mods beyond very basic stuff.Also even if it was easy to mod, the amount of effort needed to make something decent in a modern game like this would be astronomical compared to an old as sin source game so if there WOULD be anything here it's gonna take years and that alone will filter any attempts.
>>724363527The only mods you're getting are audio files and texture changes
>masquerade violation?>what masquerade?
>>724363689Explain what exactly is wrong with Bet. She seems fine to me.
>>724364087Rushed delivery, you hear at the end of hear lines everything is spoken abruptly, as if waiting eagerly for the cue to speak and it comes off as unnatural. She also sounds like a fat fucking cunt.
>>724364068I'm confused why people seem think Nosferatu are a masquerade violation.
>>724346875Yeah that's a good way of looking at it. 2 will kill and bury the series forever.
>>724364169>Rushed delivery, you hear at the end of hear lines everything is spoken abruptly, as if waiting eagerly for the cue to speak and it comes off as unnatural.I mean, to me it just sounds like the difference between an early 2000s radio host (Deb) and a podcaster (Bet). Have you ever listened to a modern female radio host?
>>724364174it was a masquerade violation in the day, not anymore
>>724364246I don't listen to women, so no. The dialogue is happening is jarring and anyone saying it sounds fine is likely an agent of the antichrist or some other kind of faggot organization.
>>724364328not anymore because it's normal for people to look like that, sorry boomer millennial old faggot, you can't make fun of anyone or be scared of someone looks anymore, times changed
>>724364379also the sound quality itself just sounds fucking repuslive, couldn't they get this fat bitch a better microphone?
>>724346754Actually it makes sense since Beckett tells you NOT to open it and you are free to simply heed his advice since he onows his shit, you fucking idiot. Doubly so if you believe the fortune teller when she says that Mercurio ("the man on the couch")and Beckett ("the lone wolf") are the only truly trustworthy people you know
>>724364409She probably recorded it at home on her gaming headset. That was the same issue Ada's RE4R voice actor had. Bitch recorded her lines at home on a shitty device, and you could really tell on top of her mediocre delivery
>>724346221>Discuss Bloodlines 1 and 2The fuck are you talking about, retard?There is no game called "Bloodlines 1".
>>724364409It's the same thing with ada from the re4 remake, she thought her shit didn't stink and didn't have to try, put on a "sexy" voice and call it a day because you're strong and this voice acting gig is somehow an act of liberation.
>>724364443i overthought it and thought jack was the lone wolf, as everyone lets you know how he does his own thing. there's no way they mean the actual, literal lone wolf, i said to my 8 and a half brain cells.
>>724364068in the first game it's only a masquerade violation if you walk close enough to people that they can scrutinize you practically point blank
>>724363485>It's like saying a hobo seeing visions and throwing punches at the air is breaking the masquerade.you fill the masquerade gauge when you punch the air lol
>>724363205You are supposed tp use the right click to slow down time to keep up, imagine getting filted by this game.
>>724351731>t*read*r's would break the masquerade for some meme artare toreadors the lowest IQ clan?
>>724364689Because you punch at sanic speed>>724363485normal drop kick at speed of the sound on the hard cold asfault, very normal
>>724364068uhh its seattle you have homeless fent addicts who look more nosferatu than actual nosferatu on every street corner
>>724364087The lines are ok, if a little bland, but I really disliked the delivery by the actress. It just sounds like an ugly girl's impression of a "sexy voice", unlike the original, which was genuinely smooth and attractive.
Fallout: Sonora any good?After replaying VTMB 1 i crave more comfy towns/quests and I've already played most of the big rpgs
Does that faggy Nosferatu Tolly die? Please tell me you can kill him
how is VTM:B 2? I lost all interest when the new dev took over and decided to make malks a day 1 DLC.
>>724364975it's good if you like classic fallout.
>>724364968>It just sounds like an ugly girl's impression of a "sexy voice"I wonder why
>>724365035terrible.
>>724365091they just weasel on into everything.
>>724365091what pisses me off more is that its a fucking european trying to sound american. what the FUCK is up with that weird accent
Is the soundtrack any good? Please say yes because that was one of the redeeming things about the first game to me
>>724365091>wod community ambassadorits so over
>>724365091man the harpoons
>>724356132Acknowledge your betters, you impoverished beast.
>>724365191no_
the worse offender might be the fact that you play as an Elder but you can get fucked by fucking thin bloods
>>724348393jank is not a meme word, it's a term of endearment
>The Fat of NightHow do you not kill yourself if you've spent real money on this shit?
>>724365191new soundtrack sucksbut since you mention the old game. I remember that it featured posters of Collide's new album. I don't believe any of Collide's stuff ended up in the game but it was how I learned about the band. It was a pretty good marketing. I wish I could've said the same about the new game. No. It's bad.
>>724365316>How do you not kill yourself if you've spent real money on this shit?easy, I'm not poor like you
>>724365191unfortunately it is completely soulless slop
>>724365360You could've had some 18 year old whore blow you twice for that much money, instead you experienced the worst game of the year, congratulations
>>724365254>>724365330>>724365387This makes me so sad. I would have still played Bloodlines 2 even if it sucked just for vibes. Vibes was the only thing that saved the first game...
>>724365191it's alright
>>724346221>Bloodlines 1 and 2, RedemptionAll shit games.
>close to the end>another 3 hours of fabien slow walking fetch questsit's like the devs WANT you to quit when you're at the climax
>>724365440>You could've had some 18 year old whore blow you twice for that much moneyFIrst of all, what makes you think I didn't do this already? Second of all, I bought it on gog with argentine VPN which is an automatic 50% discount.
>>724355342Not really. There are some setpieces that look like they were taken straight out of a haunted attraction (the narrow hallway with cubbies of dead blood dolls towards the end of the Atrium level, will.i.am's dream sequence once the mannequins become enemies) but they lack actual tension. The devs are on record saying they wanted it to be a vampire power fantasy and it shows.
>>724365547literally just finished the game after doing that, GOD IT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH, THIS FUCKING GAME SUCKS. i'm glad I pirated it, we will never get a good bloodlines game again
>>724365538Redemption had soul. Bloodlines and the nu-bloodlines don't.
>>724364087the voice acting is amateurish and sounds bad and the writing is extremely cringe, huddy
I just want another Hunter the Reckoning game where I can kill all these supernatural fucking shits
>>724365091it's hilarious how someone can sound FAT
>>724359560
>>724365697OH THE TORTURE!!!!!!!!!
>>724365091god it's so awful i muted her ass and ignore of FAT fucking horrible imitation of deb of night. God I wish this game didn't existed, why did I even fucking play it?
>>724365360It's true what they've said since ancient times. A retard and his money are easily parted.
>>724365091>Going from Deb to that unfunny, emotionless, European accented land whale
>>724365880yeah I'm a retard. You're still poor.
>>724365091fat of night
>>724365091>Amanda>A man, duh>Fat fucking hogbeast as wellWhy would you buy a game that is actively mocking you, the player?
>>724359581>Will estrogen make ma better man?Do not take if male.
>>724365979If, "poor" is what you call someone who doesn't impulse buy garbage games, then being poor is vastly superior to owning an ocean of shit.I am your better in every way.
>>724365547>>724365697same it completely killed the flow of the game but I get it they're trying to give you an endearing moment with Fabien but talk about timing
>>724365191>Is the soundtrack any good?Yes. Broadly better than the first game's soundtrack. More varied at least.
>>724364590>>724364068I think that's fair to be honest, if I see a horrid burn victim I don't assume they're a vampire
>>724355342>>724365684It's not really about the power fantasy. The Chinese Room made A Machine for Pigs, which deliberately removed the survival horror mechanics from Amnesia and focused more on vibes.
>>724366098ok brostay poor
>>724365967they really went downhill with the choice of hot chicks interacting with the community. I miss Linda.
Out of the VTM cyoa's I've played I think Parliament of Knives is the best one.
>>724366448anyone named linda is a fucking sex beast don't ask how i know I'll get uncomfortable if you do
>vtmr flopped>vtmb flopped>vtmb2 floppedyou’d think they would have realized by now that normal people dont give a fuck about faggot vampire shit
>>724347105The combat isn't better than the first game. All clans approach the combat the same way. You attempt to feed and spam your abilities. In the first game, clans behaved differently. I recently played through the first one as Ventrue and played through the second one as Ventrue. In the first, my character pumped Fortitude and was a immortal tank, using both melee and firearms, killing people with a word. In the second game, there is no Ventrue tank. You get a short damage reduction on feeding (and killing when you get Brujah perk), but the game functions the exact same as with the other clans. There are no stats that influence combat, nothing. Just boring shit.
>>724365547felt like actual trolling at that point
>>724365091lmao she looks exactly as she sounds
>>724366610>anyone named linda is a fucking sex beastbased
>>724366631>vtmr floppedno it didn't. it was the best shit ever.
>>724364068>2024 Seattle nosferatu can just claim xe is trans
>>724364912kek
>>724363527I don't think you ever installed a single mod in your life.
>>724363527Maybe a mod to skip all the fabien bullshit probably
>>724348706>this is what made an unhinged dumb bitch go googoo gaga overdumb motive and I thought vampires couldn't change their appearance besides the tzimisce
>>724366631>faggot vampure shitIn the latest game, if you play as a male then to get the special blood type from NPCs you do indeed have to be extremely gay. Every "aroused biker" (all identical looking skins) in the city just wants to grt bummed apparently. That's one of this game's facets that spoiled it for me, in addition to the deeply boring Fabien investigations following some centuries spanning murdr mystery that I neither cojld follow nor gave a toss about.Seriously, all I learned was that someone was murdering women in a specific way. And just clicked whatever button or dialogue option that got in the way of the good part of the game, which was fighting vampire hunters and stuff.
>>724366610How do you know?
>>724363527mods are not magic>>724367086this could maybe convince me to replay at some point in time
>>724364214At this point its about the best you can hope for. Having a franchise 'die' and be worked on by small groups of fans who are enthusiastic and love the work is way better than letting it fall into the hands of disney or amazon or microsoft who will then rape the corpse of it over and over until there is nothing left but apathy and disgust. Yeah you won't see Conan getting many flashy movies or games like Star Wars, but people will atleast still be excited to talk about it when Conan threads are made here or in /tg/.
>>724367193Look I don’t really have a problem with Twilight or homosexuals but I don’t think it makes for a game that most people would want to play.
>>724348474its said they get kooky over time but that is never really represented apart from tzimisce revenants
>>724365091>I pretty much live in the World of Darkness 24/7wowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WCPOuW4c6U
>>724348474>wod ghoul grooming the whole thing is tranny coded anon
How the fuck am I supposed to kill this Mercurio dude? I'm out of potions, do I need to go back to town and buy stuff?That kind sucks.
>>724348474They don't exactly fall in love with you. It's more that they get addicted to you. The blood bond induces artificial feelings and some are capable of seeing it for what it is.
>>724346464Ya I had the same opinion vampires and was gifted this game when it came out randomly... That said this is the least faggiest vampire lore I've been exposed to.
>>724348474When I played VTM IRL, a nossie had a ghoul, and he treated her like a fucking puppy, which led to some weird dissonance when she punched some hunter's head off.
>>724366143This is extremely poor bait, neonate.
Reminder that Huddy, aka FAT OF NIGHT wrote her own dialogue, I can already imagine she thinking how hot she would sound reading these "safe thirsty" lines, it makes my skin crawl with the cringe
>>724367298It's shocking when you set aside everything Disney has done to Star Wars, and the shit prequels by George, and watch episode 4 without preconceptions in full.What Disney has done is basically to have taken the meme-iest surface elements of Star Wars, and Wikipedia character descriptions or second and third-hand portrayals from parodies and the like, and acted as though these were the film's defining characteristics. But no, it's a slow-burning film with an old-fashioned orchestral score throughout, and the sole lightsaber fight is just a way to embody one of the film's emotional and dramatic climaxes. The force isn't a special video game skill but a type of connection to a greater mystetious power that can enable many different feats as the situation might demand. Darth Vader isn't the subject of loads of tedious lore and ceremony, he's an embodiment of fascism whose lore is external to the film in terms of assumptions the viewer at the time would have made. And so on./rant sorry you triggered me desu
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>>724346221>So desperate the shills are now tacking vtmb onto their pozzed sequel to try and get attentionlol, lmao even
>>724366687Every clan has different timing values, different reach, different damage values. They feel very different in combat.
How the fuck am I supposed to kill this Mercurio dude? I'm out of potions, do I need to go back to town and buy stuff?
>>724367786Oh now it makes sense why the callers kept saying her voice is sexy or something like that.
>>724367086The devs will probably streamline the Fabien sequences. We just have to wait for them to announce the inevitable post-release Paradox roadmap.
>>724367296Same, shame though it would cut half the game content LOL. God i'm going back to VTMB1 and staying there forever
>>724367903yeah bro, stock up. run the game with -console to enable cheats
>>724367943I have lost all faith in the fucking Swedes. They are just milking the Bloodlines fans while leaving us with this woke garbage. They should just make a WOD strategy game and pretend this embarassment never happened.
Man this shit is depressing. FUCK vampires
>>724368116The Swedes are the publishers. The devs are Brits.
>>724368393she is an annoying cunt. I was glad seeing her getting killed.
>>724368442oh yeah. From bad to worse.
>>724368459We have an actual monster hiding among us
>>724368393>FUCK vampiresdon't worry once I get the chantry she will be
>>724364443>Beckett tells you NOT to open it and you are free to simply heed his advice since he onows his shit, you fucking idiot.If you don't want it open because you think it's dangerous WHY LET LACROIX OPEN IT??? It could have LITERALLY triggered the apocalypse. Neither you nor anybody but Malk protag knew it was full of TNT so fuck off retard, stop justifying 4th wall breaking choices you made becuase you got spoiled on the internet.
I never realized you could just examine the videocams on the ships computer and avoid the entire stealth section on the ship, fuck i'm dumb
>>724368634>Why open it if it could cause the apocalypsefuny
>>724368393Eh, if I was a vampire I'd probably look down on any that doesn't have a whip or spear.
new thread>>724368615>>724368615>>724368615
>>724351664kuei-jin are very anime, little less than half the disciplines have a warform at level 5. In fact, they have a discipline called demon Shintai, that just lets you create your own custom one wholecloth
>>724368679Yeah this is one of the cool hidden moments
>>724367903>the beta vampire fears the chad catholic monk
