Loved Ninja Gaiden Rising Revengeance
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Ironically enough I think the Platinum DNA was pretty underwhelming in this game, while the combat is by far the best Platinum has ever done. It's definitely a Koei Tecmo game because it has their signature shitty characters and story
im torn if i want to get good at the game or not.
floperooo
>>724361879I play these games for hundreds of hours and never give a shit about getting better kekThese are my podcast/audiobook games
>>724359434*Bayonetta coded
>>724361650>Ironically enough I think the Platinum DNA was pretty underwhelming in this game, while the combat is by far the best Platinum has ever donei was shocked that the boss fights don't have minigames and qtes. you just kill them.
I fucking hate the performance of this game. Jesus christ man, even the screen effects are causing some lag. Is it just me when I tweak the graphics settings it somehow needs to restart to avoid it from becoming a stuttering mess?
Master ninja and some of the combat trials are making me hate this game.I hate the dogshit checkpoints (i know about the training mode checkpoint, the fact that needs to be done is absurd)I hate the constant radio chatter, that replays every. Single. Time. Armored core 6 was obnoxious with it and this game is the same. I had to just turn voices off completely.I hate the constant load screens. And they're always the same fucking length every time. Why does retrying a trial have to have a loading screen? Bayonetta didnt have one for failing and retrying an alfeim.I hate the slowdown on every retry of a mission or trial. I hate the walking talking sections where they force you to look at shit. I hate the awful lockon for targetting flying enemies, because the game wants to target anything but the flying bastard you are aiming for.I hate how doing flying swallow on the ground just automatically targets whomever is closest to you, even if that enemy is directly behind you, in the opposite direction of where you are moving.All of these things compound together to sour the entire experience. Its a single dingleberry shit in a giant pot of chowder.It pisses me off.
>>724358523This but unironically
>>724362136this is the first game in 5 years that just ran for me with default settings. are you playing on a toaster?
>>724362403He's gonna be way nicer to the game than people expect. Remember, unlike other NG2 autists that consider Sigma 2 heresy, he's said multiple times that he likes it a lot as an alternate version. He's not as hardcore of an autistic purist as fags like blader.
The more I play the game the more I like it. I think chapter 5 is a big drag and I don't like the bosses in the disco underworld levels, but otherwise I love almost everything else.
I think NG4 has one of the best uses of a meter mechanic in this type of game.
i did all the boss challenge trials and still didn't get my dragon sword again what gives? do i have to buy this shit in the in level store?
>>724361983>I play these games for hundreds of hours and never give a shit about getting betterSame, I just replay them on hard over and over again barely making it to the credits and I don't give a fuck because they're fun to play.
>>724361650>holding down a button to go into different modes >dodge offset>block heavy enemies that require a specific attack to break guard>parry system and berserk state lifted from previous games>shiny textures and platinum lookThe game screams platinum.
>>724362547>Remember, unlike other NG2 autists that consider Sigma 2 heresy, he's said multiple times that he likes it a lot as an alternate version.Back when it came out everyone was an autist because the gore was gone, that did more damage to the reception than anything else.
>>724362516Nope, this is why its pissing me off. Everytime I tweak the game, I have to restart it so that it stops from stuttering.
That move list is atrocious as fuck. They just give you a set of combos, and good luck figuring out what it does.
>>724363190It's the classic platinum games shit of breadth instead of depth
>>724363257Its the least bloated movelist of any NG game THOUGH
>Y with the Dabilharo/UF is fucking strong. Guard break cancelling and striking with >Y is satisfying. It KILLS these niggas. Bitch ass ogres are known for raping kunoichi. But they get SODOMIZED by my goat, RYU HAYABUSA.
>>724362547Mork also like 3RE and MGR. I think he only hates Bayo 3 which is fair.
I started playing the series from 0 and the first game is kicking my ass on chapter 3Dam this game is fucking hard
>>724362306>I hate how doing flying swallow on the ground just automatically targets whomever is closest to you, even if that enemy is directly behind you, in the opposite direction of where you are moving.Never had that one happen personally. Quite the opposite, flying swallow always goes in the trajectory of the jump even when I don't want it to, so like wind run -> wind path -> flying swallow will miss.
>>724363190Yeah, it's like 3RE, pretty useless. At least in 2 it gives you a description of what it does, but for this one it should even come with a video.
>>724363190The only two moves you need to know for any weapon are UT and ground to aerial combos. The rest is just filler and doesn't provide any extra utility or extra damage bonuses
>>724362547If he liked the guard cancels in Wanted Dead, he'll probably like Gleam Cancels.
>>724364138wrong
>>724361650>it has their signature shitty shitty charactersNo it doesn't tho. Ayane appears for 0.5 seconds, Ryu is barley in the fucking game. no other characters make a return. it''s all platinums OC donut steal.Ryu is reduced to a bonus post game character like Trish in DMC2 and he has no other weapons and lacks moves.
>>724363686I emulate the PS3 version of sigma just because I hate the fucking HP bar in the PC version.
>>724363190just look at the move, they're all visually intuitive
>mountain levels
>>724364253Platinum movesets are always dogshit where you are more rewarded for spamming the shortest combo finishers
>>724364294Dynasty Warriors is also shilling a new young bishonen MC, and this is the THIRD Ninja Gaiden where Ryu isn't the protagonist, this is 100% all on Koei Tecmo, not Platinum
>>724364680Bayo
>>724362136i'm playing it with mostly max settings on a seven year old graphics card. there was some stuttering before updating my graphics card driver, but it's buttery smooth now
>>724361879I beat the trials. I beat Master Ninja with Ryu (using items.) That’s probably as “good” as I’m going to get. Good luck to the 10 autists out there who will be doing no damage runs with Yakumo with death wish turned on.
how do i do the mid-air dash with the blue afterimages?
>>724364919yeah i knew a guy who played the OG a lot and would do challenge runs without doing UT and its like alright man that sounds miserable.
>>724364720This is the ONLY Mainline title where Ryu is sidelined and had no effort put into him. unforgivable for something that uses the title "Ninja Gaiden 4". it's not called "Ninja Rising: the Raven Chronicles"Yaiba and Rage bound are shitty spinoffs so they're not as egregious .I not only hate that they're making up shitty new characters, I hate that they make up literally who characters that have nothing to do with the existing universe or lore and really have no relation to any NG or DOA characters..
>>724364845Nvidia? Been wondering if I should update. I'm using old drivers because Mario 3D World was crashing on CEMU with more recent drivers.
Did anyone else find trial 5, the “not hit” one, harder than all the rest? The other two no hit trials weren’t quite as bad. 5 often felt like RNG bullshit. I hated it. Ironically, the last few hard mode trials weren’t too bad.
>>724365000it's flying swallow in the move shop
WHEN THE FUCK DO I GET TO PLAY RYU!!!
>>724365220yeah, the nvidia driver. if it doesn't work out for you, you can just roll back to your previous one
>>724365323Mission 14-18
>>724362306>die during trial>10 second animation of you dying>have to hit yes on the retry screen>loading screen>another 5 seconds of the trial starting and telling you what you have to doConsidering there are trials where you die in one hit, it really feels like they didn’t think this through. Or they just hate us. Probably the latter.
>>724365438Everyone should take lessons from Ghostrunner 2, in that game if you die it takes like half a second to start over.
>>724365323that's the great thing.. You don't. not really.they only bothered porting over as many animations as the Worriors games. he's missing a shit ton of stuff.thanks for $70 dorra, preasu undustando.
>>724365438oh shit, what you just wrote is the only thing that really pisses me off in the game. that and the fucking bug where the controller just vibrates constantly
>>724365529The move I miss the most is the one where you press x and hold Y to perform the basic launcher, but holding Y makes Ryu stay on the ground instead of jumping up with the enemy.In NG4 if you try that you just die because you are left charging the ultimate on the ground.
>>724358523>take MGR>add flying swallow and izuna>call it ninja gaiden
>>724362872Did you unlock the secret boss for the boss trials? You fight Onikawa one last time on NG+. He gets added to the boss trials afterwards.
>>724365693turns out i forgot to do the umbrella bitch. i was in a hurry earlier and had to go somewheredo all the trial/combat challenges not reward weapon exp?
>just found out that Ryu's Gleam Y can be continued with a normal mid-air combo to Izuna DropThis is silly
>>724365318nah, can't be it. flying swallow is an attack, the one i mean is just there for movement like X+square ...probably just haven't gotten to the point where i could unlock it
>>724365770Wind Run, I think? You get it after the first boss if I remember correctly.
Just beat the game, r8 my statsAlso what does "Enemies Killed Instantly" mean
>>724365927you get a score bonus if you kill an enemy within a few seconds of first hitting them
>>724365747>do all the trial/combat challenges not reward weapon exp?Don’t think so. Just Ninja Gold and some accessories.
>pipe accessory for random bloodbath kills outside of purgatory/challenges, it's so fucken sick when it procs randomly, really prefer it this way desu.also tip: if you press light attack, heavy attack and block all in quick succession of each other (ie square>riangle>L1), your parry+block window goes from like 2 frames up to 6 (increases for each input) which makes for very consistent parries/perfect blocks. you still have to time it but at least the window isn't as small.
>>724366019oh I guess those are all the dudes I threw and kicked off of cliffs
dragon sword and the magic box, what more do you need really?i guess the staff for fish but seriously no point weapon swapping at all.
>>724366061Does it only work with this specific string or would it also work with light light block? Just wondering if this is worthless for weapons that have XY as a launcher string.
>>724362907>even their transformers game couldn't shake their formula maybe it's just time to call platinum hacks
I'm playing black 1 on an xbox emulator. Once I finish 1, which versions of 2 and 3 do I play?
>>724366260>2360 if you can play it on 360 (not sure how it emulates)>3Play 3RE. Should be able to get it a la carte from the master collection on steam.
>>724366260Play Sigma 2 with the Black mod or 2 Black with the White mod. White is more feature rich, but Sigma 2 Black is closer to the original 360 game.3 the one that comes with the collection is perfect.
>>724366260Not sure if the original version of 2 emulates well, but that's easily the best. If you want to play Sigma 2, check out the Sigma 2 Black mod by Fiend Busa. It patches in the gore, delimb rates, and spawn points of the original. Super fun.Otherwise, 2 Black is also good. There's a mod called Ninja Gaiden 2 White (by the guy that made Sigma 2 Black) that blends the best of both worlds of the original 2 and Sigma 2. It's also really good.
>>724366203surely that was the pointyou can play sol cresta instead
>>724366581Unfortunately NG2 emulation is still very rough. Worst of all is the audio cutting out randomly forcing you to restart the emulator and there's still no fix for this.
>>724363190gee imagine having to play the game to figure it out, the horror
bury the light really was a flash in the pan because holy fuck this nigga sucks.
I just went into training and autistically tested every single counter attack with bloodraven. they really did 5 different animations for each of the 5 weapons. normal parry, normal perfect block, perfect dodge, BR parry and BR perfect block
>>724366682NG2 in general is very rough. I have to swap title updates via USB because certain missions just crash the game. I love it but honestly if I had to pick just one version to play I'd do Sigma 2 Black out of pure practicality.
>>724366841now do perfect dodge
>>724366925theres no BR perfect dodge. what I mean by BR parry and BR perfect block is doing those while holding L2, not just pressing L2 after a normal versionin total there are 8 different counters for each weapon lol
>>724366841The animation for perfect block -> BR counter / parry -> BR counter is also different from the BR perfect block and BR parry animations. Good shit.
>>724365624How about bucks boss
>>724366915I just eventually caved in and got a used xbone x for $70 to play the game.
Game should unironically have been shorterBoth the Mountain and Rave/Underworld parts dragged on too long. I just wanted them to be over. Switching to Ryu right before the final mission with one long 4 chapter flashback was also a bad design choice. His sections should have been spread out throughout the game like the Sigma girls. It would have been a nice break from Yakumo, instead of dumping them all at the end. This game geniunely made me retroactively appreciate DMC5's character switching.
>>724362306The trials made me like the game more. I was disappointed the last 3 were so easy, the time limits were very generous.I loved playing it but now that I've cleared almost everything (need to go back and do those ratchet and clank obstacles perfectly) it's a bit same-y all around and those special conditions help spice the game up. Also Yakumo sucks compared to Ryu, all 4 of his weapons play basically the same way and yet he doesn't have anything as powerful as ninpo
the game is not fit to be called NG4.it's very floaty, janky and unrefined. not up to the same standard of quality."Ninja toolbox" is the lamest excuse for platinum to just throw in a random assortment of shit, instead of making a proper martial arts weapon and since it always sits on Yakumos back they don't even have to make altered run/jump/dodge animations for him carrying the weapon.
>>724365341Not the same guy you were initially talking to but updating drivers really did make my performance a lot better. It was already 60 most of the time but now it's a fair bit above. Surprised at how big of a difference it made.
Sex with Yakumo and Hayabusa.
>>724365236I definitely spent the most time on it, just running around with tool box trying to avoid damage. The last wave with the glaive guys is bullshit there's so many niggers that can just dash at you from off screen. The kites in the second wave are also sometimes really janky to target. The others are more reasonable.
>>724365819also not it. you can see it right at the start of this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz28Levws5A
>>724367456Ok
Is there a lot of lag on the ps4 version of the og collection?
>>724367897thats flying swallow buddy
Yakumo aura mogs Ryu.
Great game so far, but I just did chapter 6 and WTF. That was unreasonably difficult, even on Normal. I died 10 times.Also this captcha is harder than the game
>>724362136This game runs amazingly.
Just finished chapter 12. Holy shit, that chapter just won't end.Also, does anyone else think that Kage-Hiruko is pretty half-assed conceptually? Pretty fun weapon to use, but it feels like they had too many ideas for what new weapons they should give Yakumo and if they should give him more than just one ranged weapon so they decided to put all of them in a box.
Does anyone else have trouble with sometimes you go up to a delimbed enemy to do an obliterate but you start just doing a combo instead and then have to wait for them to land and get up a bit before it lets you actually do the finisher? Is there a different input I can use instead of triangle/heavy attack or is it just something you have to get used to?
Are there Master Ninja exclusive enemies?
>>724368507i do in every other ng except 4you can slide into them or do a special move with the heavy button (back forward heavy) to activate it from farther away
>>724358523Worst lock on I've ever experienced in any game. I've never EVER veered off onto random enemies that aren't even on the screen as much as this game.This games combat is fucking dogshit. Blood raven is the worst mechanic I've ever had to deal with. Fuck with this game. It might even be worse than base NG3.
>Boot up Ninja Gaiden 4 expecting another installment of Ninja Gaiden>Got the MGR sequel AND the Scarlet Nexus sequel I've never gotten on top of another Ninja Gaiden installmentThe fuck? No, I'm not complaining
>>724369124>Scarlet Nexusi completely forgot that game existedfast girl is best girl
>want to replay NG1>360 is dead and I don't feel like setting the PS3 up>consider buying the Master Collection since it's on sale>remember that for some unexplainable reason they ported the Vita version of NGS1 insteadI just can't understand why did they do that. The original NGS still holds visually very well and on top of that they didn't take the opportunity to fix some of the actual issues it had like the annoying load times. Instead, they just added new accessories and costumes that completely wreck any semblance of challenge, swapped Ninja Dog for Hero Mode because not even the actual easy difficulty was retard-friendly enough and called it a day.Honestly, Team Ninja handling NG4 to Platinum is the best decision they've made regarding NG in almost 2 decades.
>hold drill inside a boss>boss attack start up>drill auto parries>boss staggersget fucked
>>724365750that was the only way I could beat the final boss
>>724365402>>724365529oh god damnit, I'm glad I'm spoiled because I'm on mission 5 thinking it's the next mission every time. Damnit.
>>724365927>Those kanjiSo in Japanese, the difficulty modes for Normal, Hard, and Master Ninja are called Ninja, Strong, and Super respectively?
>>724369432The Master Collection Sigma Plus has the Sigma PS3 visuals
i just got to ryu's partwhat does the dpad dothey don't explain it in the tutorial and i can't google it because of other ninja gaiden games
>>724369913It switches between his ninpo, Gleamblade + shuriken button to use ninpo.
>>724367897>le parry manNGods can parry too.https://youtu.be/F4jRGTuBmvg?si=zMLVhM2l16Uqqo-k
>>724369960what the fuck is a ninpo i haven't played ninja gaiden since the xbox one in 2003
>>724364358you can mod PS3 HP bars to the pc version bro, that's what I do
>>724370024ninja magic, such as throwing fireballs in a ninja way.
>>724370024Ninja magic. Press LT + B if you're on Xbox or PC or L2 = O if you're playing on PS5.
>>724369905Still, they changed the interface like the health/Ninpo bar and the menus, those look awful.
>>724361932
>>724364358you can mod the PS3 health bars to the pc version, that's what I do
>>724370112>=I meant +
>>724370112>>724370098o cool i figured it outthanks i'm playing on pcdam ryu strong as hell
>hard lock-on is now in Ninja GaidenGamingBrit and Cvit won
>>724369835It's abbreviated for stylistic reasons, but the difficulty names were 忍の道 (Path of the Shinobi), 強者の道 (Path of the Strong/Warrior), and 超忍の道 (Path of the Super Ninja, in this context Master Ninja)
So why are enemies allowed to decide they're just not gonna be hitstunned during your combo and armor through your moves taking 90% of health with one measly hit?
>>724370516Oh, that's cool. Thanks.
I started MN difficulty with Yakumo (NG+) and decided to do it without using any consumables. I've been stuck in the Berserk Mode tutorial fight for a few hours (you don't get the berserk mode at the start anymore apparently?). I think I have nearly 100 deaths at this point. Do I suck?I must be missing something and could probably watch a video, but holy FUCK this is hard. Is it supposed to be humanly possible to see what the fuck is going on? I'm just panic AoEing and running most of the time. Maybe there's a way to cheese this using the containers but I want to git gud so fuck that
>>724370542because you didn't stun them with bloodraven
Do I suck or was the Wolf jet boss in chapter 7 supposed to filter me? I died 8 times to him. What was the strat?
when the fuck are you supposed to get an opening for a charged blood sword attack?
>>724370665no he's fucked hardthey want you to use the glider to go over his rush attack. that's kind of shit though and you can just dodge it or hit him out of itother than that you just need to keep chasing and parrying or interrupting his shit
>>724370656Oniwaka will armor through your bloodraven combos. He just cheats.
>>724370806the other later enemies do this too it is bullshit i did NOT
>>724370665I just spammed UT for the first half.Forgot what I did in the second half, but once he is charging up to tackle you, ride the wind to dodge.
>>724370665no he fucked me up too
>>724370848what is UTultimate trigger? like devil trigger?
>>724370806My last encounter with Oniwaka, I did a combination of spamming UT and Kage-Hiruko's Bloodraven light attack bombs. Only needed two tries. Normal mode, by the way.
>>724370925Ultimate Technique. It's the one where you hold down the strong attack button (Triangle on PS5 and Y on Xbox/PC) and you go into a flashy cinematic once it lands on an enemy.
Would you say that the Bloodraven/Gleam meter is somewhat Ninja Gaiden's own take of the stamina meter from Souls?
>>724371008Fuck off
>Get to the ambush where I have to kill 100 Ogres>Anons were crying about how unfair it is>Run Dabilharo>roll through their attacks>block and if i get hit, just guard break cancel>Wind Path -> >Y>I kill 100 of them easilyThis experience is equal to sex itself. How on Earth can you hate Ninja Gaiden?
>>724371267No, its a super meter like in fighting games
>>724371267No, it's more like the MP meter from KH2FM.
I'm playing Ninja Gaiden 2, this level is bullshit
they really just did the dmc4 formula huh even though people hate that part of the serieswhat'd they run out of time?
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>>724371374Super meter in fighting games doesn't fill automatically. Drive gauge in SF6 does, though.>>724371376Been a long while since I last played any KH. Does the MP meter auto-charge?
>>724361650>platinum>anything but shitty characters and storiesGet the fuck out of here with this bullshit. They couldn't write themselves out of a wet paperbag.
>>724371464it feels like they didn't want ryu in it at all and someone midway through told them they were being retarded
>>724371501Wonderful 101's characters and story are pure SOUL howeverlebeit
>>724371478MP recharges after you use up the meter.
>>724371478you mostly fill the blood meter by attacking like a super meter also yes in kh2 and 3 an empty mp bar goes on cooldown and fills itself back up
>>724371464At least this game actually feels complete.
Chapter 19.
about to boot the game up again tonight but im 37 and this game gets exhausting to play that i need caffeine to keep up
>>724365927Were you killing a lot of the endless spawning enemies? Because you have 1k more kills than me and I was getting 90%+ kills in all chapters, there's no way I missed 1k. I did miss purgatory gates 12 and 13 though. Also god damn that death count.
i dont know any talismans to run other than credits to exp, 3-slot defense and obliterate for health
I played NGB long ago and no others, gimme some tips for Yakumo. I'm on altar of the mountain god hard mode, any tips? Not super rough but I feel like I misuse my bloodraven moves constantly, just kind of throwing out moves I remember instead of situation appropriate. Fireball jar niggas fuck me up
Just beat the gameWhat do I do now>replay hard with ryu>trials>master ninja>master ninja in other games first>nes games and ragebound
>>724371802>he didn't beat it on hard to begin withYikes little sis... Maybe DMC is more your thing?
>>724358523i just want another Sekiro man
>>724371476
>>724371884What the fuck does that have to do with Ninja Gaiden or Koei Tecmo?>aww rook same!
>>724371786when you know the enemy is going to turn white, you should just start doing bloodraven moves preemptively. it helps especially on fire pots. a lot of the bloodraven moves cancel into the base weapon attacks too so you can just do a normal combo from it
>>724358523Been playing the entire series for the first time and I gotta say Ninja Gaiden 1 has been holding a special place in my heart just by how nonchalant Ryu goes through doors.Especially when I do it by accident, 5 guys with guns and a rocket launcher will sprint around the corner, Ryu will just go “oh, My bad.” and leave like he walked in on people fucking
>>724371947it's the superior ninja game, superior action game
>>724371853I said replay hard lil bro
>>724370146I have not found that mod. where is it?
>>724372009>calls it action gameOpinion discarded.
Any reason to use other talisman over Ashen Pipe? Got like three insta kills in a row.
>>724372087they're JUST action games
>>724371853:( the game is pretty hard alreadyi can't believe there are people who do this shit on hard and untouchable
>>724371978He was very polite and professional in the first game.
>beat game>read through the new unlocked stuff>realize accessories existwhat have I been missing out on?
i feel like most of my joy is from the challenges but i have to do the chapters to get exp.
>>724372234very polite and professional when he murdered the innocent train conductor too
I wish I was still a NEET so could keep playing but no, I had to be born a goycattleslave and work.
>>724372562Most train guys are autistic, so it wasn't much of a loss.
>>724372009Nah.
i enjoyed playin but replayin it the music is some generic ass shit that reminds me of Astral Chain's music but that got a huge pass for being b tier slopthis game has ninja gaiden on it but smells like b tier platinum slop to me. the music was promising but it really doesn't have anything like Devil Nigger/ Bury the Light going on with it.
>>724372009>Sekiro when a delimbed enemy grabs him and explodes the moment he revives
>>724371330Sorry to burst your bubble, but that fiend challenge is training wheels compared to its upgraded version in MN where you have to kill 120 Vigoorian Berserkers.
>>724358523First the succ bugs in 3 and now the blowfishwhat did they mean by this
>>724372675be glad there's a game that makes you feel this wayi haven't clicked with something in years
alright whats the fuckin crowd clearer weapon here? blood circle normal with the box?
>>724373414>Even the fish want Yakucock
>>724371705Me too kinda I've just been powering up and doing one level per day. Almost quit earlier when I felt like I didn't have the determination to retry the purgatory, but I beat it on my third try.
>>724373562the levels really drag the fuck on. you can get melted really quick if you aren't on top of shit.nothing gets you fucked than entering a purgatory round with 6 fiends already pummeling your healthbar away
>>724358523Just finished it, Ryu deserves the title of "Im the motherfucking boss nigga" I spent more time in the loading screen than fighting.
hol' up you can just reset to checkpoint to avoid a death ranking penalty?
>>724373667apparently. but the checkpoints being where they are is the issue
>>724371705You got it unc, playing at your own pace is nice too.
>>724373617>the levels really drag the fuck on.I've found this really only applies on the first playthrough, I'm playing through it again on hard and just blitzing through them has me surprised how brief they are when you're not rooting around for chests and secrets, stopping at shops and just generally know what you're doing
>>724373709it can drag on if you're tryin to find that one gay little nigga or doing a mission you missed the first go.game really loves its rails and wind gliding
>>724373696where are they? I died to parasol bitch and the checkpoint was right outside the fight
>>724373757some checkpoints can be like a nice middle of a level and if you aren't careful with when you equip or buy things, it can reset those too.
>>724373754Oh yeah, I didn't pay attention to missions the entire game, seemed like a really gay carrot on stick thing to get you to do what you would be doing anyways
>>724370647You're supposed to learn how to spam UT effectively
>>724373830yeah apparently ayane planted flowers for ng+ so i dont even know if i care anymore. i just need weapon exp to max everything
Finished chapter 13. Used up all my healing items on Kagachi and so had to play like a pussy little bitch and spam Kage-Hiruko light attack (both regular and Bloodraven) on Achilles while running away.
blaring sonic music over this game markedly improves the experience
>>724373498I use that and 2kat blood dodge heavy
I've been wondering if the new weapon Yakumo is getting in the dlc is bloodraven or base form? also they'll probably give the staff back to Ryu in exchange for the scythe.
>>724373498The staff is the crowd control weapon.
>>724373915i think that's how you're supposed to kill himback to back boss fights. what'd they expect us to doit ain't easy bein cheesy
>>724374139The blade is red, so almost certainly Bloodraven. Also it's pretty huge, while Yakumo's normal weapons tend to be light and small. I am curious as to what the weapons base form will be.
does anyone have the collage of blader losing his mind over Yakumo
first playthrough which one do you pick>realm of gods>realm of man>realm of war>realm of beasts>realm of hunger>realm of helli've been consistently doing beasts my first playthrough with more frustration than i like
>>724374410I did one of the harder ones in level 1 and was stuck on it longer than I'd like to admit and ended up using items which defeated the purpose, I stuck to the realm of gods after that
>>724374410>>724374517actually wait why not just reward the player depending on how much health the have left AFTER the fight what the fuck
>>724374403It's actually fascinating how his existence caused titanium amount of seething amongst ng vets. I must give a bow to Platinum.
I dunno whether to S rank chapter challenge or ng+
>>724374410Depends if I want the coin for something. It's a bit of a diversion from the level so I might skip it depending how I feel.
>>724362547>>724374403>bladerPeople like him just kind of remind me of why developers rarely try to (purposefully) pander to players like him. They might just occasionally make a game that tickles their fancy just in the right way, but they such players get so fixated on that style of game that anything else is heresy.
>>724374620>>724374403Makes me wonder how the reaction to Nero was back then because I got into DMC late.
>>724358523>demigod ninja loses to edgy twink11/10
>>724374759Guess it's past my bed time, can't form a coherent thought worth shit.
>>724374783I wasn't into DMC at the time, but from a bystander's viewpoint seemed like people liked Nero well enough. The issue with DMC4 was more its structure with the repeating stages.
>>724362547>parrying>succ to target>meter managementHe's going to hate it
forgot how easily bosses get melted
>>724374995I somehow find it kind of refreshing with how NG4 lets it happen
>>724374759whats the run down on him? i see him spergin gon twitter because of the algorithm but he just seems like a dime a dozen zoomy doomy sperg from 4chan
>>724374970Hating meter management is a shitter complaint
>>724374938people hated nero because it was seen as easy mode with his sword vs dante having to switch weapons to combo
>>724375049yeah going through on hard just for completionist sake and doing missions and when i got bloodbath going on umbrella lady in phase 2 with a dragon sword its just, gleam hit gleam hit gleam hit gleam hit ultra bloodbath ender and boom dead half health gone fuck it
>>724375068The way it's implemented in NG4 is kinda ass tho. They shouldn't have let you regenerate it over time.
>>724375054Just a dude who likes these sorts of games, and specifically likes NG2's brand of shenanigans. Because NG4 is not NG2, he's naturally having a melty over it.>>724375082Right, guess there's some of that.
>defeat x with x weaponcan i just swap to the weapon for the cinematic execution or do i need to land the blow before that with it?
Ryu is a master of stealth and infiltration...
>>724375327comfy
>>724375082I feel like that's my problem with Nero overall, I like his character but he and Viola are very limited from a gameplay standpoint, a problem Yakumo doesn't have.
>>724374620>amongst ng vetsAs someone who was balls deep into NG a decade ago or so let me tell you the deranged retards that get routinely posted in these threads are not "vets" by any means. I think the only legit veteran that I've seen being mentioned in these threads is JayTB123 and he liked Yakumos' gameplay.
>>724375451>violaman bayo 3 was so forgettable for me but i guess i was drinking at the time when i playedi just remembered viola played like fucking ASS but i cant remember why with her.
>>724375453I wonder what Iconoclast thinks of NG4
>>724375534Her parry interrupted her combo string or some shit like that so she felt like ass to play compared to bayo, they patched it like a month after the game was out
what is a gleam cancel and why would i do that?
>>724375534Bayo3 was just mismanaged the scale they were aiming was just not feasible on the system they were developing for, so they had to make compromises that overall hurt the game, the summoning system was average as well while better than V in DMC5 it's clear that summoning just doesn't work in a hack and slash. As far as Viola is concerned not only is her moveset limited, she's also slow compared to Bayo and parrying to activate witch time was just an awful decision, that's like limiting Yakumo doing the izuna drop to perfect parries. It's sad Bayo3 ended up the way it is, but after NG4 I have hope they'll make Bayo4 great.
God, I hope Yakumo gets his own trilogy but I'm not feeling good about how this game is seemingly selling.
>>724375541https://x.com/iconoclast575/status/1981961767069630617?t=UpuYAWjQvzhmo5mjmqwTfg&s=19
>>724375929Kinda had a sneaking suspicion he'd like it. He seems to generally just like enjoy video games (even ones I'm personally not too keen on), so more power to him.
>>724361650It's a bad game in general but yes KT's taint is all over it.
>>724362547I think the same. He will say it is overall good, just not as good as NG2. It is not just about being gentle with Ninja Guiden, he is not quite as negative as people make him out to be.
I think it's pretty good and probably the best action game since DMC5. I think it's the 3rd best ninja gaiden game behind NG2 and NGB. It's head and shoulders above everything else. Yeah, it could be better but we got an honest to god hardcore action game in the year of our slop 2025.
>>724362403>>724362547By the way, are any other youtubers that actually spend time thinking and talking bout mechanics like he does? It is almost nonexistent.
>>724376071guess it depends on how much the hog rubs on him, because hog seemed to hyper fixate on a "cody infinite" he found
>>724365570Constantly you say? Pray tell>unzips
>>724364650It's just the checkpoints. The game is extremely inconsistent when it comes to when it gives you a checkpoint. Sometimes it's after every encounter but the last mountain level had multiple gauntlets which it doesn't give you one throughout. I'd rather the game picked a lane on how it handled them.
>>724376071I seriously doubt he'll judge the game on it's merit, just look at his Ragebound review, and even if he does like it, it will all be just backhanded compliments and talking about how perfect NG2 is.
>>724376368Any bets on what buzzwords he'll use for the video title or thumbnail?
>>724358523This is a fun game, but it has almost no similarity to Ninja Gaiden. What a shame.
>>724376368But Ragebound is really bad.
>kill 10 Van Gelfs with the twin swords>Yakumo fights a grand total of one Van Gelf in the entire storyI'm not even sure with Ryu's levels there's 10 Van Gelfs in the game. Does Master Ninja have different enemy spawns or am I going to have to replay one of Ryu's levels through chapter select?
>>724376143Combat Overview
>>724376418Don't know exactly but I bet it'll be about the "feel of the game" or something like that.
>>724376487>NG fans get some of the most beautiful pixel art in a 2D game, in a game with fun ninja traversal and call it badYou guys deserve to have your series be dead forever.
>>724376596Maybe he'll chime in on the suck effect, mechanical vacuum something
>>724376693Being pretty only matters if the gameplay is good. It is a baby easy game.
>>724365323They really baited us hard with the trailers and pictures showing Ryu. And then when asked questions about how much time players would spend with Ryu the directors were always very coy and would go on and on about how Yakumo is a new experience and Ryu is the "old" experience. Change Yakumo's hair and I'd like him more. Chances are people are gonna be coping hard when the DLC comes out and there's only one new weapon for both Ryu and Yakumo.
>>724376693NTA, but I think the game was a bit halfbaked, in that it tries to have a whole bunch of levels, but didn't feel like any one of them let the mechanics shine. Fewer levels might have allowed them to better focus the gameplay.
>>724373974what songs did you play?
>>724376693>no Ryu>goodlol
>>724363812im getting filtered by the first boss in chater 1 on normal :(
>>724377165dunno why, but I didn't expect her to be so upbeat
>>724377285She reminds me of Arcueid.
>>724376368>and even if he does like it, it will all be just backhanded compliments and talking about how perfect NG2 is.More like he will mention how he played it on either Normal or Hard and although he "barely" touched MN he will talk about it like an authority for the rest of the "review".Don't get me wrong, I usually like the guy's videos, but his takes on action games are flawed just for the fact that he barely plays them to begin with. I'm not expecting him to extensively play NG4 for hundred of hours, but you can't properly review one of these games without, at the very least, beating all the difficulties. Some criticism regarding design can't be wholly applied just because you feel like it.
>>724374620>i'm gonna make this super cool OC character, he'll look like an emo singer>he's gonna have a furry mask>black emo hair with highlights>and he'll talk like Vergil form DMC but he'll say kewl anime stuff like "hmff let's do this".>and he'll tell people to fuck off>black tatoos until about halfway down his hand then just dip the whole fucking thing in ink>Pointless sleeve things with armor on them but they're not attached to anything>he has two swords that combine into 1 like cloud in advent children! >but get this,... the big sword is made out of BLOOD!>and he can extend his super kewl blood sword long like sephiroths sword EPIC BACON>and he'll cut every thing like KA-SHIINNGHHHHHHH! and everything will turn into silhouettes with kanji like KeSPLASSHSHHH!>while emo buttrock plays in the background like AAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!>and he's stronger than Ryu and he gets ryus moveset and he's the chosen one too. >He's the most important person in the whole wold because he's literally the only one that can kill this one dragon fiend for totally non-contrived reasons I wont state.
>>724377479The seething in question.
>>724377479Agreed. He is pretty cool.
>>724377479The recipe for a kino character and I ain't joking.
>>724377479If Yakumo existed in 2000s, retards like this will praise him nonstop and say he had sovl.
>>724377479I wish he had half the personality of Vergil honestly. Yakumo is just kinda boring.
>>724377479Kino.
>>724377479the only thing that bothers me is the music. feels like he's not cringe enough to have them blaring those for every one of his boss fights. honestly I'm low key disappointed that he's not "ow the edge" like how he's presented to be, he's just a normal silent dude. kinda like NG1 Ryu desu.
>>724377165Why is she dressed up like that?
>>724377698The dark dragon's soul is bound inside her bosom.
>>724377165Hmm, big enough boobs. Is this game good for gooning? I like Rachel but she no longer showed up, so I hope this means there's some other woman I can wank to.
>>724377698Why is she dressed up like that?
>>724377672how would you make him more cringe than gay emo shadow the hedgehog with weapons literally made out of blood.I feel like they checked every possible box to indicate he was designed by an 11 year old trying too hard.I don't know what more you could do.
How many times have you replayed the old games?
>>724377874Give him edgier dialog
It's a pretty good game. It plays and feels like ninja gaiden but it doesnt look or even attempt to try to pretend to be one. I'm convinced that this was originally another game platinum was working on and they just turned it into ninja gaiden 4. there's so many weird clashing themes and all of the ryu stuff just feels tacked on. Also I honestly miss the speed of 3RE. NG4 is great but there's something special about how fast and lethal the combat was in 3RE.
>>724377798If you expect any character other than Yakumo to be on screen for longer than about 5 seconds I have bad news m8.
>>724377798If you expect any character that isn't Yakumo to be on screen longer than 5 seconds I have some bad news m8.
>>724377479Honestly, if the highlights were removed I could live with it. Or add some more costumes for him without having to spend a bunch of extra money.
>>724358523At least Dante got a ton of new weapons in DMC4. Meanwhile, Ryu only has his Dragon Sword. Imagine if DMC4 released with Dante only having Rebellion.
>>7243724630.1% less damage taken from shurikens thrown by the elite bird miniboss enemy that only appears in New Game +
>>724361650>Muh storyNG doesn't need any kind of story above "an ancient evil awakens"-tier though, no one fucking cares
>>724377672They literally just see the hair and melt the fuck down. Put a hood on him and he's barely distinguishable from Ryu.
>>724378340If ever there were a series where I don't give a shit about the MC being replaced it's NG. Really the minimal amount of Ryu in 4 just makes him cooler because he's clearly stronger than Yakumo in story and gameplay and only needs 1 weapon.
>>724378340Yakumo is the one that gets the weapons now. Just like Nero had no weapons.
>>724372463some basic RPG stuff that thankfully doesn't do much just like the 1st game.I really don't want RPG shit in an action game it always just ruins the combat.
>>724378340Your point would stand if Nero had more than red queen.
I like the concept of Yakumo's gameplay (with Blood Raven form giving him enhanced attacks and attributes and all that) but I genuinely do not like any of his weapons. They all look ugly. Not in terms of animation quality. In terms of animation quality, they're very well animated. It's just that none of them look cool. They look so loud, bombastic and just trying too hard to look cool. Kage-Hiruko in particar is just Yuji Nakao very clearly trying to combine Dante's Lucifer and Pandora weapons from DMC4.Both Yatousen and Magatsuhi have these extremely ugly drill spear and boost hammer transformations.
>>724367456The gore system in this game is very lazy and poorly made too.For example in NG2 blunt weapons like the staff/hammer would cause body parts to get crushed and explode into gore chunks.But in NG2 everything just gets cut... Even tho you didn't hit it with a cutting weapon, even tho it makes no sense, your hammer cuts things in half..and there's only blood.. there's no flesh chunks, no special gibs, no brain matter sticking to walls..they didn't even bother to re-color the blood green for fiends. It's all just supremely lazy and unfinished.
Ryu got shafted hard in NG4. Why even bother making him playable if his missions are even worse than Dante from DMC4. Ryu has the same mechanics as Yakumo just slightly tweaked. I want old ninpo back, fuck platinum and fuck KT for even letting this game happen.
>>724378783>In terms of animation quality, they're very well animatedThey're really not. They're very glicthy, jank and lack any sense of weight.the VFX are messy and cheap looking too like weapon trails are done in the worst possible way.
Dear god I am getting booty blasted because of the stupid lockon, I just want to lockon on that stupid rocket launching motherfucker.
NG Black >NG Sigma > NG > NG3RE > NG4 > NG 2 > NG 2 Black > NG 2 Sigma > NG3Here's my series ranking. Not really a fan of NG2 in any of its versions honestly.
>>724379028I only lock onto bosses
>>724378983>Why even bother making him playable if his missions are even worse than Dante from DMC4bait
>>724378340DMC is a different playing game lmao I'd be mad because that series is designed around weapon switching in the first place. I could beat the last three ninja gaidens with the sword only and still have fun because it genuinely has a large, varied and versatile moveset, and you can't even switch weapons freely anyway without freezing the game and menuing.
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>>724377932I played the 3D ones for the first time a couple of weeks back, did normal, mentor and hard in the master collection then again on hard, mentor (Black) and hard (Kasumi). Might do another run through on Master Ninja before I do MN for 4 just to have a feel for it.Unless you're talking about the old old games in which case I tried playing the first game but got filtered on stage 2.
>>724379370Brother in christ I am getting filtered. Playing on hard and this shit is kicking my balls.
>>724376504There’s a side mission on NG+ that infinitely spawns them. Pretty sure you’re expected to farm them there. Just don’t destroy the gate until you kill 10. It’s in the second level, iirc.
How the fuck do I dodge offset
Even though it's Yakumo's game, Ryu is way better in every way despite only having one weapon. Hopefully they don't ruin him and take away his ninpo or make it more inconvenient when they add more weapons for him. I predict his two other weapons will be on the wheel and the Ninpo will be selected with the same dpad direction like Yakumo switching between box and DDS
nigga what the fuck don't tell me they gave him ryu's moveset toowhy
i just put it on story mode for the tengu/ ryu boss fight. this game isn't fun anymore its just button mashing shit. I might as well just play dragon ball z games.
>>724375451At least Nero got more to him than Viola, Exceed mechanics, grab, charge shots and exist within DMC4 gameplay with weird techs like reversal and inertiawhile Viola does what already? 2 katana string, 1 jab string and throw dart?
uhh...wheres the week 1 patch..
>>724376418He'll talk about mechanical darwinism and stuff given the amount of system and meter there's in this game
>>724380972You just played 4 stages with DS, now you get to use it in the last one
>>724381197gemu froppu, no finasharu insenchibu tsu patchi. Purease undastando
>>724376418Resource snowing
>>724381318well when you put it like then its not too bad. doesn't seem to be permanent either for ng+ so that's good.
Can't get over how clean this costume is.
>>724361650This.That's why it isn't fair to blame platinum for the emo kpop bitch Hayabusa's replacement.
fiendbusa starting to fix the game, they're on nexusmods
>>724381110ryu is easy. just hold block and punish when he tries to do unblockable attacks. and dodge his jump away charge UT.
ahaha fuck you cunt why did I have such a hard time with this
>>724362907>holding down a button to go into different modesWhat Platinum game did this?>dodge offsetI'll hand it to you>block heavy enemies that require a specific attack to break guardWhat Platinum game did this?>parry system and berserk state lifted from previous gamesThe parry system is nothing like prior Plat entries, which were all "press the stick in the direction of the enemy just as the attack lands". Also not sure what game you're thinking of with the Berserk state.You strike me as the sort of person who has played exactly zero games made by Platinum.
I don't think I'm enough of a hardcore gamer for fresh save MN..
>>724367426The rave underworld part wouldn’t be so bad if the half the enemies weren’t just fodder
>>724367426It feels like the original intention was for the moment when the actual OG became a playable character was supposed to be a>HOLY SHIT HYPEmoment and a big climactic reveal, but then the marketing department got really scared that the game would sell seven copies if they didn't tell the OG fans that you play as Ryu. So then they upsold it as being a game where you play as both characters, and everyone was just playing the game waiting for the moment when you play as Ryu, even though it wasn't intended to be half the game, which is why the new guy you play as has a playstyle so heavily remniscient of Ryu's in the first place, rather than feeling like a mechanically unique character.
I can't believe they actually pulled a DMC4 with the Ryu sections being recycled areas in reverse with the same exact bosses. Except in this game, you don't even have the caveat of Dante playing completely different to Nero. Ryu and Yakumo play practically the same.
>>724383260It feels infinitely better than dmc4 though
>>724381780Why is he such a twink?If Ryu is a V shape, he's an A shape.
>>724383428too good for this game
you need to be mentally ill to like ng2 besides chapters 1 2 11, what a completely awful game
Whose idea was it to map the sprint on the analog stick?
>>724383250that's my issue with it. when I got to Ryu it didn't feel like anything changed much aside from him dealing more damage and me not having my big fuckoff hammer. wish they didn't make Yakumo play so much like him but if they didn't then it wouldn't have been ninja garden so it's a weird design choice overall.
>>724382832>holding down a button to go into different modesprobably talking about bayonetta hold inputs>block heavy enemies that require a specific attack to break guardthe enemies in mgr that you need to blade mode to guard break i guess?>berserk state lifted from previous gamesprobably talking about umbran climax even though they aren really anything alike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKXi08chD2E
>>724384313I vaguely remember bayo3's demon remote control mode being a shoulder button mod like bloodraven
Ryu's air gleam Y is his coolest move
should I buyI think NG4 Ryu looks fucking stupid
>>724381763You unlock it permanently by beating the postgame trials
>>724384556Just pirate it.Worth playing, not worth buying.
>>724358523I can't believe I'm having so much fun playing a game.Like I pick up the controller and move and press the attacks and try to beat normal with S ranks, I feel joy.Last time I felt this was DMC5. Maybe this genre really is the best. I think this game will keep me busy for a good year based on my attempts at MN, and that's not even getting into actually playing well with good scores. Maybe 'Untouchable' is also doable within 5 years lol
>>724382706Okay, now do the real version in combat trials
>>724376143I quite like Whitelight for this, but he mostly covers ubislop style games
>>724384556I bought the game but creampied the dlcI aint paying more than $70 + tip
>>724384506For me, it's gleam + 360y
>>724385356Same, if the DLC is really good though then I'm gonna buy it
Are the Sigma versions as bad as I hear? I'm mulling over grabbing the collection since I also heard mods can help mitigate some of whatever negative changes were introduced.
>>724385547first game is playable, second game needs the mod, third game is playable
>>724385547Sigma 1 has almost no negative changes, it just adds stuff on top of the game that you may or may not like. Sigma 2 not good.
>>724384449Maybe so, I never played Bayo 3. At any rate it's hardly the sort of thing that's a common thread among their games the way dodge offset or witch time are.
>>724371267Not even remotely.
>>724383930Why are you sprinting outside of like 5 required slides you do in the whole game.
>>724383329>broken soft lock on + suck to targetNo it doesn't
>>724374139Yakumo kino art
>>724378983Ryu's missions in 4 were good though. They were way snappier than Yakumo which had some missions that really dragged on.Ryu is just action kino.
>>724383014Before I played the game I was sure I was gonna do fresh save MN, just like the other NGs. But after playing Normal and Hard no waaaayyy am I doing that.Maybe after playing several Master Ninja playthroughs.
Purgatory is FUCKING UNFAIR.I need a better counterplay to those enemies with the twirly staffs because they eat me alive.
>>724386238Hard felt pretty easy but after beating chapter 1 on MN I had to take a break from the game
I want to wait until they release a patch to fix the frequent loading screens and awful checkpoints but i don't think they will bother to do that at all, so fuck it. Im 6 chapters deep on MN, the game makes me wanna tear my fucking eyes out in rage, i hate the trials but i was only playing them as Yakumo so that's entirely on me, im sure im gonna do far better as ryu.Thank fucking god there are no acheivements for rankings.It's bizarre. I love the game, but I also don't.I should just play NG1 again. But I wont.Autism.
Also why do all action game fans speak terrible englishAny vid or topic i try to look up regarding trials has people in comments speaking like fucking caveman. Always noticed this with every plat game, every dmc, etc.
>>724386943this checkpoint is by far the worst one in the entire series, NG3 had checkpoints basically every fight, 2 had manual saving so you could go back to statues any time, and 1 had respawning enemies so it doesn't matter. But here, you need to do a gliding section, fight 4 fucking encounters and climb up the cliff before reaching the next checkpoint
>>724386342It's that part right before the boss. I thought I had trouble with it my first playthrough since I was new to this game but it was even more ball-busting than anything in hard mode. Having less trouble now, I think it's one of the hardest encounters in the game.
>>724386943You're going to have to wait for Ninja Gaiden Sigma Black 4 bundled with Ultimate Ninja Collection
Do we know when Two Masters is coming out? I think I enjoyed the game enough to pick up the Deluxe upgrade, but I'm not sure if there's going to be a sale for it before it comes out
What are the optimal settings for a PS5 Pro? Prioritize Graphics with an uncapped framerate?
>>724387503Early 2026 afaik
>>724387503>>724387751saw someone say that there's gonna be news in december
>>724387751>>724387771Oh that's pretty soon. Can't see myself not getting it as soon as it drops so I might as well just grab the extra stuff now, thanks.
Everyone saying the MN for this game is easier but part of it is because there aren't any shitty designed enemies that kill your fun and makes you drop the game
Iconoclast loved it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LccfTAApA0EHe also did all purgatories on Hell already.
>>724373754All the footage I've seen of rail grinding and basic platforming sections has put me off getting this game, i don't know why character action games feel like they have to waste the player's time by pacing out the fights with boring shit. Always feels very start-stop-start-stop. I just want to genocide bad guys ffs
>>724375327Blimps are nazi propaganda and Ryu has no problem with them, says a lot about him really.
>>724374620>seething amongst ng2 'vets'How many times do you need a reminder?
Ryu is the least stealthy ninja I have ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=conoKk2gO64
>>724388650That "door opening" animation took my sides to orbit. Ryu is the "no guards to find the bodies" kind of stealth.
>>724387717there's a digital foundry video on it
>>724377432>can't properly review one of these games without, at the very least, beating all the difficultiesHe will download a hacked save to skip gameplay but still end up using other players footage and you will like it.
>>724379347Based
>>724388949I watched that but it just explained what tweaks you can make, not what an ideal combination is. He basically ended the PS5 Pro segment on "do whatever you like, all these options provide a great experience."
>>724379028Don't use it unless you're fighting one nigga. Just use wind run.
>Used a bunch of items>Master Ninja>SSSCome on Platinum I did not deserve that
I'm not feeling this suck to target that some talk about. Your moves go a consistent distance.You move according to the soft-lock on like previous NG games. Yakumo just have a lot of attacks that move him forward a great distance, but you are not being sucked to targets like in nuGoW where your attacks have some nebulous sucking effect that sucks you forward some arbitrary distance to the enemy, if you use an attack with Yakumo it will go the distance it goes and that's that. And it's certainly nothing like the Batman Arkham games.
>>724389358Average Ryu gameplay.
>>724389383Same.
>>724358523Played it for 53 hours so far, one of the best games ever made. I was stuck for 1.5 hours on the last trial, trial 18, but managed to beat it just now. Now I only need to do a Master Ninja playthrough and I will have all achievements, a TRUE NINJA.Can't wait for the DLC, so glad I pre-ordered the deluxe edition of this amazing game.
>>724390029>TRUE NINJAWe'll be waiting for you.
>>724388124>difficulty: normal>everything unlockedyeah, not watching that 1 hour of cooking mama gameplaywhy even bother posting that trash?most players did hell on hard with no items during the first playthrough
>>724390326I love that Ninja Gaiden 4 lets me pick the second hardest difficulty from the start, this is how all games should do it.Hardest difficulty should be unlocked after beating the game once, so there is no time wasted on repeated playthroughs to unlock the hardest difficulty.Perfect system.
>>724390326purgatories arent different on higher difficulties
>>724390473what actually changes between difficulties?
who you callin a ninja
>>724390326Way to out yourself lol, purgatories are the same across all difficulties.
>>724390618damage taken more aggressive enemies higher tier enemies appearing earlier, at least on MNdon't know the difference between normal and hard
>>724390618Normal = everything's normalHard = enemies deal way more damage, slightly more aggressive AI (?)Master Ninja = new enemy placements, everything almost instakills you, AI just rapes you ruthlesslyYou can also unlock a "Death Wish" modifier for any mode & difficulty. Enabling that caps your HP, disables accessories, and nerfs your block to only work for a few attacks until guard breaking.
>>724388882>Actual great game comes out>Aris doesn't play because...Been a while since I watched him but now I remember why I stopped.
>>724388382It's for the casuals and journalists. They would complain non-stop if the game was eight uninterrupted hours of combat.
>>724390834imagine even having a save on normaltrue ninja dog>>724390887i didn't notice any difference in the first two chapters on MN and didn't even bother playing further>>724390946>Master Ninja = new enemy placements, everything almost instakills you, AI just rapes you ruthlesslyhonestly doubt it>and nerfs your block to only work for a few attacks until guard breaking.it's not a nerf, it just locks it to baseline by disabling "the art of defense" unlocks (or whatever, never even bothered unlocking that shit)should have disabled everything instead, the game is at its best when you didn't have shit, the more shit you unlock the easier it gets, culminating in difficulty jumping off the cliff when you unlock berserk and its related arts
>>724391282>i didn't notice any difference in the first two chapters on MN and didn't even bother playing furtheryou're a fucking retard lmao
>>724391282>honestly doubt itwait what the fu->culminating in difficulty jumping off the cliff when you unlock berserk and its related arts????? LOL
>>724391315maybe you just have skill issues?the annoying enemy positions were exactly the samei don't remember the exact number of random shmecks because they are trivial to kill and all they do is feed berserk bar
>>724391282>he didn't play NGBGrim.
>>724387084It was pretty fun indeed.
>>724391080most of what he does now is garbage horror games to entertain the zoomers who spam him to flush every game that is not le funny, and he obeys. i guess he's just in it for the money nowadays
>>724381110lollmao evenweak
>>724391575the difference in difficulty in black was apparent from the first chapter, you get red ninjas right away etcit's not the case in 4 at all, everything looks the same
So, does this game prove that Kamiya is washed up? OR will we have to wait for Okami
>>724358523Art of the Flame Phoenix is lame and pointless, we already have a fire-based Ninpo with Art of the Inferno. I wish we had a Ice or Lightning based Ninpo instead that was actually useful. Rework Inazuma / Ice Storm or make it something completely new.
>>724392007Kamiya wasn't involved in this game at all, retard.
>>724392007>Kamiya
>>724392007Shut up schizoid.
the red daemonic stuff should've been longer
>>724383930I think NG2 is great until you get to the jungle. Like you said, it does pick up at chapter 11 again but I don't really hate the chapters after it(except Zedonius 2), they're pretty quick.
>>724381832>it isn't fair to blame platinum for the emo kpop bitch Hayabusa's replacement.That is 100% platinums fault. Platinum has universally dog shit character design dating back to the founding of the company. He comes from the same lame design tradition as viola.
>>724392382>Platinum has universally dog shit character designNah, Bayo, Sam, Jack, 2B and Wonder Red are all kino protagonists; Yakumo is 100% on KT because that's what's popular in asia. The truth is we are now in the era where appealing to china is more important than appealing to the west. You can expect to see a lot more characters like Yakumo
I heard there's a charm that gives a chance to insta kill outside of bloodbath, where do you get that?
>>724392942Chapter 5 or 6 I think, you need to ring the bell at a shrine until you get it.
>>724392942ashen pipe, think it was in the forest areayou need to constantly hit a rope until 2 chests drop from it
>>724392942That thing carried me in MN paired with the double swords, the bloodraven form has really good AoE attacks
>>724389358iirc the old games dont punish your score for using items either
>>724392881my theory is kinda similar, they just wanted more asian audience with the fuckboy design. NG has already established a western playerbase or that's at least how they perceive it.
Speaking of Kamiya. Anyone of you actually watch his videos? I subscribed but never watched them
>>724393840clearly no one is watching them lmaofirst action game without him and there are 0 combat QTEs, he really was the retard behind it
>trying to play Black>not right stick cameraI'm sorry itagaki, I just can't. Sigma is so much more pleasant to play just because of this. Also Xemu still stutter like shit running the game.
>>724394047Click the stick in.
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>>724394292All abrasive and outspoken NGfags like to act contrarian like Itagaki without the self-awareness, taste and charisma to back it up. Typical "on the spectrum" behavior.
>>724394047>game sucks because I cant take my thumb off the action buttons to turn the cameralearn to use the right trigger
>>724394047Sigma 1 has a lot of additions that make it nicer to play than Black, but NGfags aren't ready for that conversation
I would rather play Yaiba
>>724394047It's an action game. You're not supposed to use the stick to control the camera. It's slow and mushy feeling. Camera reset is quick and responsive, and keeps your thumb on the buttons.
>>724392097Exactly
>>724394292This shit always happens. Total fucking losers who have nothing going on in their lives so their whole indentity is tied to a game from over 17 years ago.
So when does /v/ start saying that NG4 is worse than Yaiba the same way they said that DMC5 is worse than 2?
>>724396231what is yaiba?
>>724396231They're waiting for Mork's word.
>>724396375Supposedly a Ninja Gaiden game but jury is still out on that.
>>724358523Biggest flop of the year so farTruly the concord of action games
>>724396518It's the god hand of our generation. Good.
Who are these lads ???
I'D RATHER HAVE A BUFFALO TAKE A DIARRHEA DUMP IN MY EAR THAN PLAY NINJA GAIDEN 4
>>724396473My bty is that he will end up in the "Good action game, bad Ninja gaiden game" faction
Dlc when? How will the new weapon fit into the d-pad selection I wonder
>>724396738That ironic coming from him as a NGII evangelist.
>>724396725buffalo diarrhea has a lot of health benefits unironicallytry eating some anon, it will invigorate youand putting some in your ears gives you a +10% hearing buff for a couple of days at least
>>724396801Already got cancelled because of the poor sales
>>724396490wow it does look weird
>>724396590Godhand > Ninja GaidenWhy? Because God Hand has gambling. Let me bet on which fiend is gonna win the rape race in the next game and I'll call it Game of The Decade.
>>724396801You wint change weapons with the d-pad as Ryu, you'll probably have to pause the game and equip it there like in the old games. Its either that or, like the DDS, you'll have to oress 2 times on any direction in the d pad, but that means they will only give Ryu 1 more weapon
>>724396618https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE5af6gAQqUWow, it's them!
>>724394292It's crazy how schizos got so much presence in the community.
>>724396618Ni and Oh
>>724397336>but that means they will only give Ryu 1 more weaponNot if you have to double tap specific directions. It would make changing ninpo and weapon a bit more cumbersome if you want to change weapons but not ninpo, but not too bad since switching ninpo is very easy.
Twitter user's Sudoku (@SaltSudoku) General NG4 Gripeshttps://pastebin.com/0471xFni
>>724397424Find me one normal NG player.
why do people want to be able to OT corpses? is it just because muh NG2 did it?
>>724397597JayTB is one of the oldest and also one of the most well adjusted, all the schizos are "muh optics" posers who take video games too seriously, they think being good at a video game makes them cool and respected kek
>>724394292Don't know which fanbase is worse DMC fans who only knows it through memes or the mental asylum patients of NG?
>>724397740>"muh optics" poserszSenzy and M*rk come to mind.
>>724397678it's coolit would be OP in this though. they were smart to take it out.
>>724397584Unfortunate that so many of these types miss that the smaller on screen size of the player combined with the larger arenas means that in terms of magnetization, the game plays basically the same as before, only everything is half the size.
>>724397584On a scale of 1 to schizo, how much of this is accurate?
>>724372009Sekiro is like a different take on adapting NES Ninja Gaiden and an incredible game but it isn’t really comparable to 3D Ninja Gaiden, they are very different.
>>724397769at least one of them play the games...
>>724396231>the same way they said that DMC5 is worse than 2?that's one retard and he said it specifically get you maddmc5 is better than 2 and equal to the wuboot, but worse than the 3 real dmc games.
>>724392105>>724392097He returned to Bayonetta 4 productions.
>piercing void
>>724397584>HEY EVERYONE SHARTDOKU68 ON TWITTER WROTE THIS DOCUMENT YOOO EVERYONE CHECK THIS OUT
The DDO are a real pain on this difficulty.>do anything>get immediately jumped by a glaive nigger while some dude charges up the ranged lightning unblockable and someone else spams rockets from the other side of the arena
>>724396618The environments are just the same 10 props copy and pasted kek
>>724397584thank god you posted this, I was just dying to know what this fucking literal who is thinking today
>>724396925He's not as much of an ng2 evangelist as others, he still considers sigma 2 a great game. Though that might just be because he's a shmup autist and just views it as a different arrange. He's able to appreciate action games on their own terms where as other ng2 autists criteria for how good an action game is is "how much like ng2 is this?"
>>724398164Are you stupid, they're the tengu twins from sigma 2
>>724374410I did Beasts my entire first playthrough except one I did on Hell, first gate was the hardest for me but I was pretty rusty and didn’t know how to use BR properly and was still figuring out enemy patterns.
>>724398087I don't agree with enemies one shotting on very hard. I want to enjoy the new spawns and without getting one shot.
>>724398087I did the firdt chapter on MN with both characters, and it took me an hour and around 40 deaths each. Those waves of soldiers a little before the boss fight are fucking relentless
It's been like a week and the shills are already starting to lose their honeymoon phase. They probably won't even be able to defend the shitty targeting and suck to target soon anymore. How are these people going to last for the next 3-6 months until the DLC launch and pretend the game is fine.
Sorry, it must be asked a lot, should I rather play NG2 black or NG4 for my first game? I don't know if I'll like it.
>>724397881>nitpicks>skill issue>his own personal preference >the first one is a lieit reminds me of that image of 50 THE REASONS YOU HAVE TO PLAY NG2 ON XBOX and it was padded with retarded things like THEY RENAMED CHAPTER SELECT TO CHAPTER CHALLENGE.
>>724398307how many times are you going to post about this?
>>724398323Well NG4 isn't on key reseller sites so the only way you can buy it is on Steam you can just refund it if you don't like it
>>724398307boghog thinks UT spam is the greatest action game ever made and waxes philosophical about it. he's not worth listening to.
>>724397990DMC5 is better than 1 and 4, I really like 1 but let's not pretend it has a better combat than 1. Only thing DMC1 does better is artstyle.
>>724398513the enemies and bosses in 1 are the best in the series by far
>>724398480Lmao really? Even the most dedicated ng2 autists I've seen have been able to concede that as the game's major flaw
>>724396518Crazy how peak player count is inversely proportional to the quality of the actual game.Ng4>sekiro>stellar>wukon
>>724398217I was commenting on the environments, retard.
>>724398307There isn't any suck to target in NG4 though.You can whiff attacks and UTs even if you are fighting just a single enemy.
>>724397841Very true
>>724398307>pedosky>dogshit takeLike clockwork
>>724398603Nelo angelo is the only good boss fight in 1, and majority of enemies in 1 show up in later games with better gameplay
>>724398686"suck to target" is the wrong term for it but it is true that way more than any other ng game simply pressing x "sucks" you way closer to the enemy. It's not nu-GoW where pressing attack anywhere on the battlefield instantly teleports you in front of an enemy but it's not far off.
>>724396518We are playing on gamepass
>>724398286>Those waves of soldiers a little before the boss fight are fucking relentlessThat bullshit fight is exactly what I was referencing. Crazy how the Commander was way easier than those assholes.
>>724398748
>>724399092Other than not fixing the issues with UT that 2 had, this is the worst problem with the game.
>>724365927>Also what does "Enemies Killed Instantly" meanThat you are a Master Assassin.
>>724398768phantom is 10/10. griffon and nightmare are gimmicks but they're well-implemented gimmicks and deserve points for not being a monster in a circular arena that does a combo sometimes.none of the reused dmc1 enemies are better in other games. the closest are frosts which work well as the difficult juggle target in 4. dmc1 enemies all have interesting tricks that play with dante's small moveset. your goal with an assault is to cut his stomach open. your goal with shadow is to land on the spike and shoot it. they reuse these sometimes but it doesn't work in something like 5 when you have a gorillion extra options and you could just sdt or royal guard or whatever if that's your one playstyle. they also stand out like a sore thumb because the correct solution for every new dmc5 enemy is to launch them and then abuse the weak gravity and ez enemy step to kill them before they hit the ground. crocodile excepted, that enemy is ok
>>724399092>whiffs 3 attacksthis isn't magnetism
>>724399197The fact that even a single attack connected in that string is the problem.
>>724399092I think the forward momentum on attacks is a problem but using the rapier as an example is dishonest, that's the one weapon that SHOULD launch you forward
>>724398480No he doesn't he constantly shits on UTs
>>724399092>3 whiffs before reaching>using the lance weapon meant for closing distances>>724399239Every attack in every ninja gaiden has the player step forward some distance. Explain what is bad about it in NG4.
lol NG4 fags are trying to ignore and defend a single attack string magnetizing you 3/4ths across the entire room toward an enemy it shouldn't have even soft-locked on to in the first place (they ignore that it missed two enemies in front of the player)
>>724398790There are only some moves that move you that far.
>>724399092The game is made for retards and they didn't buy it anyway
>>724399298Yes there was forward movement in a combo string in previous game but to say it's similar at all to how much there is in NG4 is extremely disingenuous.
>>724399417The enemy is locked on, are you blind or just stupid?
>>724399417>keeps mashing like a retard instead of just redirecting the attack at another enemy
>>724399092This is quite literally not enemy magnetization, you have no idea what you are talking about.This is just the forward movement on the attack animation for the rapier which is specifically good at moving across the battlefield much faster than other weapons.Every attack goes the same distance each timeGod all these twitter schizos act so high and mighty and they don't even know what suck to target is.
>>724399514Wow, I didn't know ng3 had so much succ to target. What a shit game
>>724371008Wood chipper ad.jpgI did not need to see that, that was completely unnecessary. Also, fuck you for tainting Warhammer 40,000 with your slaanesh faggotry.
>>724399514It would be a more genuine and accurate comparison if you were fighting an enemy in the 3 video.
>>724399694Okay here's another video using 2
>>724399293>If NG2 has a main thesis of sorts, it's that fighting for active time can be an extremely compelling & fun dynamic in beat 'em ups. It has everything that you get in pure spacing-based games - a central resource (time, rather than space) that both parties compete for, gradual gain/loss of advantage, strong enemy gameplans/synergy, checkmate scenarios, limited safety net mechanics, etc. And it achieves this by using blocking, blockstun & timer-based sticky explosives as a foundation.
>>724399769>2 has more suck to target than 3interesting
>>724399769Ryu shouldn't move forward at all when he attacks. This is a game for babies.
>>724399769>ryu sucking towards the enemies by just attackingYiiiikes.
Ninja Gaiden always had attack magnetization that zoomed you across the entire combat arena. It has nothing to do with all the added tracking, suck to target, and shitty targeting in general NG4. Stop being a schizo!!!!!
>>724399851it's natural movement animation in 2. in >>724399514 ryu just glides and it doesnt make sense. I dont care if there was 100 mile forward leap for every attack as long as it looks good and not retarded dogshit.
>>724399417>play ng2>do a string with literal teleports in the middle>ryu flies across the stage to hit an enemy i wasn't even hecking targettingbamham garbage, into the trash it goes
>>724399515>The enemy is locked on NG4 tourist doesn't know the difference between a manual hard lock on and the game's uncontrollable soft-lock on indicator These are the people you're arguing with by the way.
>>724400050>uncontrollableUnfortunately, that is a skill issue.
Good to know any criticism of 4 will be met with disingenuous faggotry.
Literally the only difference to tracking etc. is how much you move forward when you attack. Even in 1 if you turned away from an enemy and attacked Ryu would 180 to hit them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX_0KOiRgHY&list=PLAOKDyK76v4C6NBbceiLGNCdu4PJIUdA9&index=27It's up
Here is why Ryu moving 12 inches during a full attack string in the prior games is the same as every attack in the game moving you 5 yards on each individual input.
>>724400209>Literally the only difference to tracking etc. is how much you move forward when you attackAnd that's what people are complaining about.
>>724398636Wukong doesn’t count
>>724400274>12 inchesIt is indeed comparatively the same given the size of the arenas
>>72440027412 inches lol. More like football fields.
>>724400209>is how much you move forward when you attackWhich is bad. Killing any spacing is bad action game design which is why sekiro is a bad action game
>>724400448I never realized Ryu was only 2cm tall
>>724400448>Shows an attack string that has movement built into the animation and is supposed to be a forward advancing series of attackThis is like if you posted Stinger and said that the travel distance on the move is magnetism.
>>724400448Comparing a YYY string that has the trade off of way more startup to the distance travelled by inputting X in NG4 is disingenuous.
>>724400284that's not magnetism. ryu moves forward in every game when you attack.
Might as well post XXY>Y to "prove" that NG2 has magnetismPlatinum's not sending their best
>>724400613>Shows an attack string that has movement built into the animation and is supposed to be a forward advancing series of attackLike the animation in 4 which has movement built into the animation because it is a forward advancing strike?
Next the NG4 fags will try and say that OTs being changed to literally teleport warrp you into position now is a good thing and that the games always did that.
Why doesn't virginumo get a gf
>>724396590>The God Hand of our GenerationKino
>>724400676We've been over this, stop trying to say the distance moved by inputting x in any other NG game and the distance moved by inputting x in NG4 is at all similar.
>>724400765Nah that doesn't look very polished, true.2 and 3 did OTs better.
>>724400814It's still not magnetism and suck to target.If you want to criticize then do it genuinely.Go play nuGOW and Bamham if you want to see what suck to target and magnetization actually feels like.
>>724400875In that case I agree, the terminology people are using is wrong but at that point we're just being pedantic to sidestep discussing the actual issue.
>>724400814the arenas, enemies and attack hitboxes are bigger in 4. you can be a disingenuous whiner and complain that the game is adjusted to compensate or you can learn how it works.
I loved the game but after doing some trials and a couple of chapters on MN, I downloaded NG2B just to scratch the itch for more Ryu weapons. I'll play both fir the bext couple of weeks
