>a pc with the ability to play every console exclusivewtf i love microsoft now
>>724358841lol, lmao
>>724358841>Backwards compatible with SOME
>>724359049it says all
>>724358841>consoles turning into cucked PC boxesmore proof PC won the console war
>steam deck but not portable and more expensive
>Consoles reportedly sell at a loss>Consoles become $3000 PCs for $1000>Buy a console>Install a real OS on it>Win while stealing money from Microshit
>>724358841>free multiplayer like PC
>>724358841Finally I can be done with steam
It's interesting because there's still a ton of unknowns about next-gen gaming because it's clear that the console market in general is failing hard and we're seeing the evidence of that with console companies literally being unable to reduce prices 5 years in to the gen and sales numbers being worse than last gen. so they'll have to all go all in with a high-priced machine if they want to sell hardware which will last 6-7 years of a generation and include some differentiators. I think the big differentiator will be AI capabilities. valve will piggyback off AMD's AI stuff whereas MS and Sony will probably have their own internal AI tech.
>>724358841I remember reading not long ago that Microsoft was looking into Xbox emulation. If they really are going for full backwards compatibility all the way down to the OG Xbox, this might be pretty good actually.
>>724358841Really.... huh
>>724359049Emulation is the big anniversary reveal.
>>724359329They are no longer selling for a loss....
Microsoft is making a heavily subsidized gaming PC where you can use any storefront or pirate/emulate and /v/ still complains. What do you guys actually want? Another walled garden console? I swear half of this board is mentally ill
>>724360458No......
>>724360458There'll be a middle ground. It might not sell at a loss but it'll probably be a bit cheaper than other similar devices because MS aren't having to include the cost of a Windows license with it and stuff like that as opposed to 3rd party companies.
>>724358841Imagine if they let you swap and upgrade parts.
>>724358841Will it run DK Bananza?
>>724360473Consider that Microsoft uses pajeets for 99.9 of its coding I will not touch it. Sorry just gonna play 20 year old games
>>724362415Based retrofag, fuck nuconsoles
>>724359049>snoys can't read
>>724360473Just give me flawless 360 emulation with upscaling on a pc hybrid and I will buy your overpriced pc.
>>724362529funny how the last gen of consoles worth owning was the last gen where they weren't just rebadged AMD PCs
>>724362779I kinda agree but tbf by that logic the 7th gen consoles would be considered "rebadged PowerMacs"
Day one buy for me. I've been a very satisfied xbox gamer (pc and nintendo on the side) since the og, meanwhile my brother went sony and he's a miserable u hygenic virgin with no working consoles atm.
>>724358841Just imagine, Snoys, Tendies and journalists gloating and shitting on Xbox for years, a new console arrives, it can play Playstation games, it can play Switch games with better performance than Switch 2 through Citra AND full backwards compatible with all the previous Xbox consoles.It's just too good to be true, you can't sell that system at a loss, maybe they can close a good deal with AMD for cheaper parts, but I would expect a $1300+ final price for it.
>>724360473it's gonna be full of unskippable ads and i won't allow something like that in my room.
>>724360473they are steam cultists
>>724358841>the next gen Xbox will reportedly be a custom, even shittier version of Windows11 with console UI
>M$ are getting into boutique gaming PCslmao
>>724358841This is fake as fuck because 100% BC moreso than a technical obstacle is blocked by licensing. MS can't just take an old Xbox game, patch it and redistribute it without the license owner's permission. They'd need an emulator that perfectly plays all these games regularly. And how would you even get the game in? It's unlikely PS6 and Xbox 5 will have a disc drive.
>>724362870Yeah I remember when those had cell and ibm processors that were extremely common like those amd laptop chips the 8th gen used.
>>724358841>backward compatibility with all Xbox gamesIf you actually believe that after the Xbox ROG Ally, you're just the perfect kind of idiot Microsoft loves to exploit.
>>724362870Rebadged powermacs make for better consoles then, maybe they should make more like that
>>724362984Xbox is already Win11 with a console UI. They share the NT Kernel and a lot of APIs like DX12.
can't imagine something like this being sold at a lossbest case scenario it'll compete with shittier prebuilts because it's an unupgradeable brick that massively benefits from the economy of scalewouldn't personally get it but it would shake up that market
>>724358841>windows central>Jez Corden This shill always has egg on his face.
>>724363340I can see it destroying that market, surely Microsoft gets deals that will make possible selling them cheaper than the usual retail price
>>724363340I'd guess Microsoft want to EEE the prebuilt market. But good luck when your gaming brand is currently in the designated shitting gutter
>>724363060...."getting into" ? Playstation and Xbox have been budget gaming PCs with a custom UI for over a decade now.
>>724358841I just want backwards compatibility on windows 10/11. Hell I'll upgrade to 11 if it comes to windows.
>>724358841So a PC with paywalls up the wazoo?
>>724358841I can't wait to see how much this tax for the tech illiterate who are too dumb to hook up an existing PC to a TV will cost.
>>724364151Never going to happen. It's a licensing nightmare. Publishers are not going to support downloading roms onto your pc.
>>724360458You realize they aren't paying retail price for parts right? What you pay $500 for they buy that part for $50, no middleman markup like Amazon or walmart
>>724362779the 360 used an amd gpu and the ps3 used an nvidia gpu>>724363147both of them were powerpc which were mostly used for laptops.
>>724358841>publish a explorer.exe launcher on steam>turn on xbox>disable updates>install launcher>get a pcI hope gaben doesn't bend to microsoft to prevent this.
>>724358841Watch none of this become reality
>>724362686This is obviously bullshit. They had less than half of BC for the original Xbox on the 360 and less than that from the 360 to the Xbone/SeXS.The hell makes you think the Xbox team is gonna allow that without some jewish tricks?
God, PlayStation and Xbox are on their last legs, I'm getting a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2. Glad Nintendo and Valve saw how volatile the home console market is.
>>724364983Nintendo and steamie fans are so deluded to their relevancy
>>724365117>esl third worlder phonepostingyep, it's a consolefag
>>724365248third worlders don't buy nintendo or xbox they only buy playstation
>>724365248>couldn't refute the argument so goes into namecallingeverytime
>>724365367sorry but i only argue with humans
>>724358841I’m saving up starting today. I’m deep into Xbox ecosystem, I did pc for minute and got deep into steam before going back to console. This is literally a “console” for retards like me.
>>724365117>muh revenueThe fact that these two retards are going multiplat, shift towards other devices, trying to figure out ways to spend less shows that after 10th generation they're going to stop making hardware entirely. This is Nintendo's and Valve's industry now.
>>724358841Why not make it an app on PC? What's the point in getting an Xbox when you can get a pc without the restrictions of a console? or is more like the Steam Deck with linux? X to doubt.Is it a one time fee or subscription? I'm not paying subscription for an emulator
>>724364040>plug in mouse+KB into a PS or XB>game refuses to allow you to use it for "fair play">plug in PS or XB controller into your PC>it just worksoh ya, just a budget PC with a custom UI bro lmfao
>>724359135I doubt they can add All with all the licensing stuff and asking permission from publishers, with incentives, I'm sure...It's 'All' in due time, not right on launch. Which is a dangerous promise to be throwing out there after all the failed promises since Phil took over.It's the same 'All' they've been slowly building up since Xbox One. They could get some serious bad will if it's not All on day one after promising that, and they can't afford any more bad publicity on their latest project. They need to rethink that line and say Most of something more realistic, or put a big asterisk promising future Backwards Compatibility for X and Y games. Nip that shit in the butt real quick
>>724364953>The hell makes you think the Xbox team is gonna allow that without some jewish tricks?The "jewish trick" was posted in the thread >>724358915. Also, as a PC, there is nothing from stopping you from finding where 360 games are installed, making a copy of the folder, replacing the ROM with a different game, and running the emulator Microsoft has.
>>724367362>only advertises console multiplatsImagine if this were a real ad. Shit would be like the Ngage all over again.
>>724358841It's like. Play the steam games. But also play the Panzer Dragoon Orta and Ninja Gaiden Black
for 20 bucks, you can turn an X-S into a decent emulation box. if the next-box is affordable, even stronger, and runs Steam I think it's a no-brainer for actual gamers who game on the couch.
>>724368791>for 20 bucksDev mode has been free for months now.
>>724358841It will LITERALLY be an integrated Copilot PC. Return of the Steam Box but it screenshots everything you do and sends it to Microsoft.
>>724358915>>724368048>>724368048Xenia runs on a series X already, retards.>>724368639those two are already backwards compatable.
>>724358841So just get a PC then? You even get to play shooters with a non-gimped control scheme that refuses to even use gyros
>>724368639>That picThis is practically me and I hate it
>>724366767>muh revenue doesn't matter guizTell me again what platforms GTAVI is coming on
>>724358841>free multi-playerFake news
>>724360157At first, consoles used to be better because it was "just pop the cart/disc and it werks, no need to fiddle with Winlux OS and gay driver shit". After introducing 100GB+ of downloads just to start a game, it went to "well consoles are cheaper than ur peecee", now it can't even be the cheapo option
>>724359135"All" as in "whatever is currently available to buy on the Xbox store" is what they meant.
>>724370356Your butthole
>>724369191>>724358841Presumably microsoft will make a new windows-based OS with a simplified UI. If steam shit runs, that also means they have to work with valve somehow to integrate it, which ain't a great thing.Letting microsoft handle the gatekeeping for steam, even on a console, is nothing but bad news. Honestly, the whole thing smells like another way they're trying to backdoor their way to control over the ecosystem like they always do.
>high end premium experiencewhat does this mean
>Can play Steam games including Playstation PC titlesSo it's a prebuilt PC, because I highly doubt Valve agreed to put Steam there.>Backwards compatible with all Xbox gamesBull fucking shit, current Xbox back-compat is with emulators and game-by-game wrappers.It's still gonna be a worse console-PC experience than a Steam Deck, if the ROG Ally Xbox thing is any indication. "Power to the players" comes in the form of your $1000 shitbox trying to install Microsoft Teams when you update the Xbox app.
>>724374524It means they saw the PS5 Pro being a highly expensive no-games-station and decided that being a Lamborghini you can't drive is the end-goal of all consoles.
>>724358841>>a pc with the ability to play every console exclusive>wtf i love microsoft nowwhy. you can pretty much do that. right now. my build btw
>>724358841And the rumoured price is over $1200. This shit is dead on arrival if the PS6 is around $600.
>>724358841I might get it just to turn it into an emulation machine. Didn't Sarah Bond say that ROG Ally is the blueprint and that is basically windows PC?
>>724360458the last consoles sold for a loss were the PS3/360, this meme that modern consoles are sold for some gigantic loss needs to stop.they sell for a small loss for a few months then it's years of increasing profits, they don't even lower the price over time anymore. how do people think that 3600/2070 equivalent hardware is selling for a loss at $500 in 2025 no less, they are making shit loads plus the online fees.
>>724358841I would have bought the shit out of this 15 years ago but I'm struggling to think of many old Xbox games that weren't ported to PC and can't be emulated already. I guess, panzer dragoon orta, JSRF, ninja gaiden black/2 and project gotham racing 4 would be nice to revisit.If Sony did this I would actually want it because I've skipped the last 2 generations and I actually still want flawless PS2 emulation.
Still never installing steam
Snoysisters what is our response?
>a pc that can't pirateYeah no thanks
>>724374489Valve will just tell them to fuck off, they agree to the ROG Xbox Ally, they won't agree to Microsoft meddling.
Can someone explain to me that if Microsoft and Sony are so concerned about hardware sales, why they both decided to give up on exclusives?Exclusives are like the biggest reason to buy a console and the only reason Nintendo exists.
>>724376854For Microsoft: No-one was buying an Xbox One and so they needed to reclaim some of that money back so they ported to PC.For Sony: Their games cost a hell of a lot to make and making it PS only wasn't covering the costs. It comes down to expanding budgets either way.
>>724376854Microsoft isn't concerned about hardware sales at all. They are like empires in decline, they would have rather kept their territory but now it's too expensive to defend so they retreat from the physical world and obsess over number go up in financial markets.Long term they realise they are now beholden to new forces and the people who control the real world have actual power.
>>724377038>For Sony: Their games cost a hell of a lotMaybe if they stopped drinking the woke-aid and spending half a billy on dogshit like Concord and cuckmann slop, they wouldn't need to give up their exclusives.
>>724377153Maybe Astro Bot was a wake up call. Smaller budget game released to critical acclaim while Concord flopped and took the studio with it.
>>724360458Right based on approximate numbers I saw years ago, but their cost is low due to bulk deals, so it still beats off the shelf parts.
>>724363340For retarded kids who want to play PC and would otherwise shit up forums asking basic questions it's the perfect option. Standardised name brand recognition that parents can buy for them.
>>724360458>They are no longer sellingYep
>>724375145Thats the catch. It would have a niche market as a steam machine that punches above its price compared to off the shelf amateur builds. Good option to have, but it wouldn’t sell too much more than the steam deck
>>724358841I mean its the second most sensible angle to take for Microsft at this point, other than just quitting all together.
>>724364154Where do you see a paywall here?
>>724358841ILL SEE IT WHEN I BELIEVE IT
>no paid onlinehttps://x.com/Welfare_JBP/status/1982943808389296308Shut the fuck up and stop using Jez Corden as a source.Now this is what SneakersSO said about this>They aren't going to. The part thats being lost in Jez Corden's PR piece is that the XboxOS SKU line will be killed with this HW release. Its all the Windows/PC build for Xbox going forward.>If you're an Xbox HW user, you won't feel a overall loss of support as long as the game can run on this machine via Steam or the Xbox on PC store, which is just running a WindowsOS version of any game.>Nothing I said in my post actually contradicts what he put out in his puff piece. The machine is meant to run all pre-existing XboxOS titles via BC, but there won't be a native XboxOS SKU for this hardware platform, because its a PC - its native builds will be the PC/Windows builds from the Xbox on PC store running in hopefully by then significantly improved FSE, like the Rog Ally line does right now.So outside of the nuance about console game SKU versus PC game SKU, you agree with Jez on functionality? Full fat windows with FSE a la Ally X, but with BC?>Yup - this is exactly what its going to be.So, is the hardware is a go again, and no lontger up in the air?>Still in flux from what I recently heard.There isn't much difference between an Xbox on PC game vs Xbox Console game. It's been the Windows/PC build since 2019. There's no indication that they won't have optimized versions for the Console form factor.>There actually is a number of differences, at least this generation, but you're correct that devs could still do machine-specific optimizations aimed towards this machine itself, if they felt it was worthwhile to do so.>This thing is gonna be far too niche and expensive for it to take off in any meaningful way if it releases as is.Stop shilling this crap, OP, party's over, it's Windows slop.
>>724358841Just stop buying consoles, if the market sees that millions of PCs will be bought the price of pre-built pcs will lower
>>724360473They Monitor everything you are doing. Thats why nobody wants Windows 11.You think you can do some pirateshit or post on a nazi imageboard without consequences? Every Lawyer lick their fingers for the Data Microsoft gahers with such a "console".
>>724358841It sounds too pro consumer to be true, especially if it's Microsoft.
>>724379075I use Ubuntu on the desktop and would buy an xbox PC for gaming. Best of both worlds. Fuck you, a console without a walled garden sounds amazing. Even if they keep the pay 2 play online sub.
>>724379157yeah, sounds way too good. They want to get to a 30% profit margin and I don't see that happening when they drop paid online.
>>724358841>consoles>exclusivesPick one
>>724377038>For Sony: Their games cost a hell of a lot to make and making it PS only wasn't covering the costs. It comes down to expanding budgets either way.Why can't they just make less expensive exclusives? Not every single game needs the be a AAA game that needs an average Balkan country's GDP and 10+ years to make. PS1 and PS2 games were barely functioning jank that took an afternoon to beat, but there were 50+ fun games, were done in 1-2 years with a significantly lesser budget, took an afternoon to beat, and people still feel like they are pound for pound the best consoles of all time.
>>724380279Astro Bot was basically a AA game. Ghost of Yotei was actually quite cheap to make from reports. It's Naughty Dog and Insomniac with massive budgets.
>>724360473>What do you guys actually want? Another walled garden console?>>current Microsoft product>>pretending it won't be a walled garden botnet bloated AIslop piece of shitDon't pretend they are releasing a open-source steam machine.
>>724378976>if the market sees that millions of PCs will be bought the price of pre-built pcs will lowersometimes I forget that I'm speaking to literal children on this websitepre-builts have been shit + more expansive for 3 decades, even during PC's peak because PCs aren't a centralized console, they are an amalgamation of expensive parts mostly made by different manufacturers, this is going to be the case forever, thus why a cheaper console would be better than a PC (like they used to be), but M$ are literally not able to make a profit off a simple console that simply runs games on itgaming is an inherently expensive-ish hobby, but in the long run it's the best bang for your buckalso the appeal of a PC is the M+KB, I'm not buying a PC "equivalent", but still not get to play games like PUBG, Dota 2 or CS2, if I wanted to buy platformers or adventure games, I'd get a PS5
>>724358841>free onlineabsolute bullshit, that's how they subsidize the price of the hardware, unless you feel like paying 1k+ for the next xbox
So a Steam Machine?At this point, just get a PC instead.
>>724358841>pc with the ability to play anythingyes, i have a pc you dumb phone jeet.
>>724380752>gaming is an inherently expensive-ish hobbygaming is one of the cheapest hobbies out there. What are you talking about? Which hobbies require less money? Staring at a blank wall?
>>724378637>STOP USING THIS PERSON>USE THIS RANDOM FORUM FAGGOT LEAKERTRANNY INSTEAD!Kill yourself. Right now.
>>724381203Go back to eating your beans in bongland, Jez Corden.
>>724358841>Free multiplayerHahahahahahahahahahahaha
But I already have a gaming PC. FUCK your xbox and your digital gamepass shit.The only reason people bought the 360 was physical games, that was the charm. The only reason why people bought xbox games is because of the physical disc collection. I'm speaking to microsoft directly right now. There's no reason why you cant make bluray compressed 1.0 discs especially with the advent of NVME's now.Most people's internet speeds are not faster than 40mb/s in america even in the suburbs so bluray is still faster at 50mb/s with compressed game files when you have it at 50gb on a disc.You could have had a loyal collecting following and the best console on the market but you stripped the game drive in place of digital because steam is doing it. YOU WILL NEVER BEAT STEAM OR PIRATES. YOU WILL NEVER BE THE NEXT STEAM GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK STUPID FUCKING HEAD MICROSOFT CEOS.Stick to what you're good at xbox, making video games easy for collectors and people who don't have a lot of time to game by making discs that appeal to collectors.
>>724358841>High end premiumAbsolutely DOA. The point of consoles is that they are affordable for the most part. Why the fuck would someone spend over $1k to get a gimped as fuck "PC" when you could just... you know... get an actual fucking PC?
>>724358841>including playstation PC titles>pc titles
>>724360473>heavily subsidized gaming PCWhere do you get this from? The $1000 Ally?
>>724381760The point of the console is that after work you could pop in a game disc, whether you just bought it or not at the store, play it and sit on the couch.The point was that normies could easily access gaming by simply buying the console, now if they want to play a game they have to wait an 1 hour 30 minutes when they get home at 5pm from work to download a 120gb game.It appealed to normies because it was easy to understand and people got happy when they bought a new game at the store physically.It appealed to collectors because they always knew they owned the discs and could play the 1.0 version and own the game.Now they betrayed both of these groups in exchange for digital game pass, trying to overtake and be the next steam and its failed miserably. They have failed so bad that in order to save face they raised game pass and are trying to make so many concessions that wont work when PEOPLE JUST WANT FUCKING PHYSICAL.The reason why steam is so successful is that they were first and gained a lot of reputation by being the defacto PC game market over 2 decades ago from the start.Steam sucks, its the same DRM digital shit but they have too many people entrenched in their system. Xbox cannot do this because people have already picked steam and are going to stick with it, regardless of the censorship or bad decisions steam makes because they are stockholmed now with 1000+ games.
>>724359329Probably the last console sold at loss was the PS3. For sure PS5/Slim & PS5 Pro were never sold at loss.
Microsoft is once again being scummy. They lost the console war so now they are going to try and twist the meaning of what a console is and they are going to say that regular consoles are obsolete because it fits their narrative. These fuckers need to actually just fucking kill the Xbox brand for good. Straight up leave the video games industry because they bring nothing to the table, they only come in and fuck everything up for the lols.
>>724359145My office PC who can barely run some NES roms agree. We won.
>>724382038They could redeem themself saar if they just started making physical games again, brought back their disc drives, lowered the prices on the series X and made collecting fashionable again. I mean how can a company look at nintendo, which is losing massively right now with the key carts and poor sales which they are coping and havent released switch 2 sales in forever and think "hey I know what would work" doing the same thing!
>>724381105If you don't pirate and have to buy every single game you want to play, pay for online, have the latest PC or console, then that's a lot of money for a hobby. I do know that most people steal their games and hardware here.
>>724358841>Ally comes out with the usual windows shit and nowhere near the console experience>pinky promise this won'tDoes anyone but the hardcore Microsoft fanboys believe this?
>>724358841Can play Steam games AND free multiplayer? But, honestly, Sonyfaggots have no standards, so nothing that will make them change idea.
There are actual indian Xbox employees ITT
