>play fighting games for years>series destroys all your years of training and hard work>fgc still wants to hold the series and genre on a high pedestal
>tries to slime out of the cornerthe beast is washed up
>>724359632He was too far to do anything else. If he didn't the other player would've just slimed him again.
>>724359469Just don’t play modern games. Same goes for every genre.
>>724359469I don't want to make excuses for Daigo, but I've seen that look on his face before, he was mentally checked out. He still got P'd on, but I'm just saying I think he disengaged.
and the crowd goes mild
>>724359469Disingenuous faggot webmDaigo tried sliming himself, and got checked. He then failed to react to a telegraphed DIHe's old as fuck it's understandable but you're still a fagtron for using this as your point
>>724361564he slimed because it was the only real option he had
Daigo just looks like he wants to go to bedGoddamn sf5 and 6 aged the fuck out of him
>>724360081>the best way to play fighting games is to download fightcadegrim
>>724359469>>724359632That's one of the best Melty Blood players of all time and he's been grinding SF6 for a while.>B-BUT LE SF PLAYERS ARE LE ELITEThey never were, anime players are better. Lesson learned
>>724359469Last I checked, SF6 still has consistent top players in tournaments. Diego hasn't been one of them.
>>724359469leaving the concept of skill aside, sf6 looks so exhausting to play
daigo is past vidya retirement agemost people play like 10-15 years then retire to coaching or leave entirelydaigo is about to hit 30 years of playing vidya competitively
sf6 is a fucking abortion, imaging dedicating your life to fighting games and then you're expected to grind this piece of shit for clicks on youtube
>>724359469boomer wash...
>retire from the pro scene for years>pro player suddenly challenges you to a fg you barely play>still win
What the FUCK is sliming
>>724363907i know, i learned how to play type lumina from scrawt videosdaigo still misplayed
>>724364642drive rush
>>724364587justin is just amazing at fighting games, i remember watching a bit of him playing pot when +r first got rollback and he was playing so well after years of not playing
>>724359469Dix is poison for the soul
>>724364642Losing against a fat retard.
>>724359469Oops
>>724360081That's sadly not how the capcom drone brain works. They HAVE TO play the newest thing because its recent, current and what the CORPORATION pushes and supports. Old bad, new good because they 'MUST MOVE ON', if new bad, make excuses and call them a bad name that'll get em.
>>724360249Certain games have certain equations. Bad fighting games are notorious for this. If you played Mortal Kombat on SNES you know the only way to beat certain characters was to cheese the fuck out of them. The other fighter had the speed, that's it. It was over. Just like COD Black Ops is all about rate of fire street fighter is all about character counters.
>>724365157and then fgc pretends like they're not just socially rejected normalfags
>>724363827Or get +R
>>724359469Daigo is washed. Just look at how he failed the unc check when he got hit by DI. It's a young buck's game.
lukeGAWDs dabbing on boomies
>>724365168Yeah, 2:2 with Akuma's health + Luke going ham is one of those cases where struggling it out barely adds up to it being worth it.
>>724365935He's remained highly competitive way longer than most, how many top players in current year can still say their first Street Fighter was SFII?
>>724365935>pretending daigo is washed to cover for the fact that sf6 is an casualized abortionback to hell with you
>>724366778Why not both?
>>724359469>devs make a game harder for long time professionals to win inWOOOOW HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED?!? I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COMPLETELY LEGAL FOR LONG-TIME VETS TO GET SEEDED WITH ULTRA-STRATS AND METAGAME, WHY IS IT DESIGNED AGAINST THEM!?!?
Why does /v/ seethe about fighting games so much?
>>724366778Doesn't stop all the other Japanese in their mid to late 30s from dominating the comp scene consistently. He's straight washed.
>>724366249It's interesting how sharp his droppoff when SF6 came out was. He is really not a highly competitive player in 6, still very respectably good at the game obviously, nothing against him, but "usually makes top 46" isn't really in that discussion any more. But he absolutely was in SFV, he'd almost always top8 events he entered and had a credible shot at beating any other player. And then SF6 came out and now he's getting 43rds. There's a few possible explanations.>His age and health is finally catching up to him>SF6 is a much more popular game than SFV so the level of competition is higher>SF6 rewards a skillset he isn't as good at and/or doesn't want to developReally it's probably a bit of all of them. As much as I'd like to just call SF6 a shitty random ass game where skill doesn't matter, the top players are still consistently placing at the top, at least over a decent sample size. It might be MORE shitty and random, but not entirely. Strive called it Mahjong vs Chess or whatever. >>724367260>mid to late 30sDaigo is 44
>>72436732430s and 40s aren't really that different, he's got a couple years till 50 which is when shit actually gets bad. Unless he just has bad health in general which is understandable.
>>724367324Isn't Itabashi Zangief in his 40s? He's doing better than Daigo in tournaments.
>>724367617>30s and 40s aren't really that different, he's got a couple years till 50 which is when shit actually gets bad. Unless he just has bad health in general which is understandable.The difference between your 30's and 40's can absolutely be huge, people age at different rates, and often it comes at you fast.
>>724359469i wouldn't expect him to be good with the new games, only in fighting games is the expectation of well hes a pro at one game he must be good at all of them when a lot of it is raw muscle memory and you can't dedicate your time to every game you have to choose
>>724359469Faggot game
>>724367245they'll never actually be good at them.
>>724359469imagine a dude named scrote popping off against you like that lol
>>724361764Just before chink flu some unknown thing lit a fire under his ass and he started actually training seriously for probably the first time since SF4. A few months later he was the best player in the world (or at least Japan) and it wasn't even close. Too bad tournaments didn't really exist. By the time shit went back to normal he'd fallen back into his drunk streamer persona, unfortunately.>>724364587Who of note has Justin beaten in the last decade? Last I saw he was slumming in 1600 MR in SF6, jobbing to random A-ranks on fightcade, and losing a FT10 to iDom in a game he won ten Evos in.
LukeGAWD taking home the bacon.
Dix rewards you for playing like a deranged gorilla whereas Daigo excels at patient play, of course he's not going to do well at it. The game is literally designed to allow zoomies to fraud out wins from people who have been playing fighting games for a long time.
>>724359469This game is so fucking bad, man. I hate Capcom for what they've done.
>>724369657What's the deal with all the goyim throws?
>>724369657I can't believe we're like 3 years into this game and there's still no standing gentleman's agreement to not do this shit. If I paid $1200 for a flight, $200 for a hotel room, and $100 for a ticket to the venue and my reward was watching a nigga throw loop his opponent to death in the grand finals, I'd throw my fucking chair at the stage. Imagine paying $40 to watch CCC on PPV and it's just more of this garbage. Fucking lemmings supporting this game. Pokémon fans have more dignity than SF6 players.
>>724369810strike/throw is the only mix-up in the game
>>724369920>standing gentleman's agreement to not do this shitI almost feel like there actually is to some partial degree. It's ten times more common to see the player on offense do a blocked meaty when they could've gotten more throws than the reverse situation where they go for one too many throws and get teched or dp'd.
>>724368473Justin beat the undefeated OjiHunter from Japan, Betty at Evo 2025.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fthAj-ZMRus
>>724369810There's no through protection so throw on wakeup is a true 50/50. Damage is absurd so you really don't want to tech; Xiaohai would have been dead if he teched the third throw and got shimmied.
>>724368473>won ten Evosis this an exaggeration? what game?>>724365141i think most people play niche fighters not to be a big fish in a small pond but because they love something about that specific game
Or just sit at home and shill every fighting game on your stream and become a millionaire
>>724370865>Damage is absurd so you really don't want to techhuh? you take no damage when you tech
>>724359469>daigo getting perfected by fucking ScrotumVermilionfighting games are something so dogshit
>>724371028A semicolon indicates that the next clause has relation to the previous one which should be inferred, my ESL friend.Teching opens yourself up to eating massive damage if the opponent shimmies, which is usually common since you can maintain pressure a lot of the time in practice.
>>724371028you tech the throw with throw, whiff because he walked back a bit, and die to a punishi assume ive never played that game
The day Daigo got bodied on the big stage was important to you. But for him, it was Tuesday.
>>724370931>is this an exaggeration?Only slightly.
>>724359469Is Luke the most uninspired fighting game character in years? I really think so.
>>724371028>Take throw>100 damage>Try to tech and get baited>5 gorillion damageThere's a reason why players always say "Just take the throw".
>>724370865>>724373950Maybe we were too harsh on SF4's option select teching...
>>724373950"Take the throw" is from a world where you didn't get very good oki after a throw so taking the throw meant eating 10% damage in exchange for getting out of pressure.
>>724364587The Wazzler is just that good at wazzling.
>>724359469Was Tekken the only community that said wow fuck this? Tekken community was always full of bright people, unironically.
>>724360249Even if Daigo was the one doing the washing, it's still uninteresting gay rushdown mixup shit, the defensive player has no real oki and we may as well treat what's happening as a true combo.Like how far have we fallen that SF is like this now, I say this as a fucking V trigger defender.
>>724359469Where was this homo when Daigo was playing SF4. It's like he waited two games before it was easy enough for him.
>>724359469>Lmao he played Scissors when he should have played Paperi'm getting fg fatigue, bros...
>>724374006Just add throw protection on wakeup like every other fucking game. It's not hard.
>>724364587>pro player suddenly challenges you to a fg you barely playNewer players have no real experience with long sets, which involve a completely different skillset than just throwing random shit at your opponent for three games.iirc betty won the bo3 in that set, but justin won overall.
>>724375052Slime shit is significantly worse than even the bullshit V-Triggers, yes.It is available literally the instant the round starts and it recharges itself, it dominates the game harder than any V-Trigger in SFV
>training and hard work
>>724376448Before Justin took her OjiHunt winning streak virginity, she was beating similar retired pros in Japan.
man what happen to japan?they usually get disown and commit sepuku just by losing to a gaijin
>>724376771And none of those pros were as good at long sets as Justin.
>>724370865>damage is absurdlol you should play sf2
>>724376543Vtriggers were just brief installs or one-time special moves. Lots of 6 characters have very similar things via supers. Rashid's vtrigger is just his level 2 now.
>>724375928He was playing melty blood
>>724369920>still no standing gentleman's agreement to not do this shit.Anon this franchise has zoners. What you may find to be unbearable others will gladly do in a heartbeat if it means they'll win, and then look at you with a shit eating grin for not being able to handle the obstacle course.
>>724364642>>724364783
i love the instant dash in your opponent's face mechanic
>>724378041SF2 is not a game to emulate the throw game of.
maybe he should be playing a different fighting gameone that has a third movement choice to avoid that specific situation
>>724378870Makoto players do as well, before 6 at least.
>>7243651573rd strike is still played, at tournaments in current year even. Try again, zoomer
I knew before it even came out that slime and impact would be annoying and dumbed down and gaywish they'd go back to 2D spatial ludokino (which isn't just wiggling btw)
>>724359469I feel Daigo on video games in general I'm just too burnt out to try hard and sweat anymore it turns games into a task
>>724378720there's a difference between utilizing the 50/50 and abusing it. players who abuse it deserve to be booed by bored audiences.
Stop betting on old and busted racehorse
>>724379109>you can't do that, that's cheap!>you can only do it twice or you're abusing it!Loser talk. Shouldn't have gotten pushed into the corner, bozo, now hold this mix.
>>724378765>Getting that shit in your hairI feel bad for her.
>>724379297It's probably a wig.
>>724359469The only thing that gets me about this webm is Daigo's opponent. Pure onions reaction after perfecting someone. In his simpleton mind, he's just happy that he can say in a conversation "I've perfected Daigo. Yeah, THE Daigo." and he's content with how happy his life will be for now on in FGC circles.
>>724379026This is why Makoto will never be added. Every character is already Makoto.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVY3qhd4XXU
>>724379480Just realized [s 0 y] has been filtered to onions. Thanks hiroshimoot.
>>724379480desu that sounds kind of impressive, you're right about the onions though
>>724379364She most definitely is wearing extensions but getting it into your twists is fucking horrid. Shed have to get it undone, meticulously clean them then have the whole do resetup
How did 3S bomb so hard in the 90s?
>>724379559That filter was added in 2018, newfriend.
>>724361764Isn't he like 45? Also notorious alcohol enjoyer.
>>724378924worked in darkstalkers
>>724379480What was supposed to be his reaction when he got to play with le legendary "EVO Moment 37" man live, got to final round and won? Crying? Cumming? Pissing? Naked dogeza for daring to win?
>>724369657Idk ehy they just dont just make it a universal requirement to need drive rush if you want to do a throw loop. Puts a natural limit on how many times you can do it, and rewards plays who put their opponents in the corner without relying to heavily on drive gauge.
>>724379652Lack of home console ports. The third series was only available for Dreamcast the longest time, and during this period the average consumer was more interested in 3D fighting game titles like Tekken and then later Soul Calibur and Dead or Alive with the 6th gen consoles.
How do I get out of Diamond
>>724359469think about how fucking GGST is less gimmicky than SF and Tekken at this point. like, those are supposed to be the basic-bitch entry points of their respective genres and they're ALL IN on gimmicky meters while strive just has a wall break and maybe risc will become a factor if you zone too hard. you can't even say "but roman cancel" because every FG has the "spend meter to combo" button unless it's like skullgirls or undernight where they don't even bother to try to limit your combos
>>724359469Why didn't he just wake-up DP? Works every time.
>>724363907Dogura and Kazunoko spent years proving anime players were better. Neither of them played much SF at all, yet would always slide into top 8s or even winning tournaments in SF. I haven't kept up with the FGC for like 8-9 years though.
>>724380113>tfw Kazunoko won the last Capcom Cup for SF4 when it was just his side game
>>724359469daigo is retired at this pointthe tournament scene is too cucked and doesn't pay enough to justify seriously training and the games they make are more rng shiftest 50/50s than ever before, the outcome of a bo5 is just a coin flipthe outcome of a bo20 or a bo50 is not a coin flip and the truly better player will win, but that's not what tournaments want to dohonestly watching a bo50 of daigo or tokido vs anyone is probably going to be more interesting than watching any current day entire tournament, even more so if they pick a better game than modern capcom and fgc in general dogshit. sf died after sf4, not even a hint of irony.
Give it up folks, return to Super Turbo
>>724359469SF6 could be so good if they made raw DR cost 2 meters and made throw loops cost meter
>>724380363
>>724380607There’s a much simpler solution to the slime problem. Just make the start of a match meterless like every other fucking entry in the game.
>tfw we'll never go back to prime SF4 days >Infiltration hadn't been erased from history yet and was bodying people every Evo>Daigo going from washed up scrub to consistent top 8 once he switched to evil ryu>Xian winning Evo using a character no-one gave a fuck about until that point>Poongko taking his shirt off on stage was considered hype>Smug dominating nlbc every week using Dudley who was pretty low tier until usf4>Pepeday being a legitimate threat using El Fuerte who was basically a joke character>Gootecks and Mike Ross were still mentally stable and making videos together>Sanford getting salty and smashing his stickI feel like pic related recalling this stuff. SF5 and 6 just aren't as exciting to watch and I don't even think it's entirely down to gameplay. The newer personalities aren't as interesting or fun. Punk had become a top player before I lost interest and even at the time I couldn't take him seriously. He just didn't feel as raw or genuine as the old fgc heads. James Chen and Seth Killian crying at Evo was entertaining, seeing Punk cry every time he was on the Evo podium was like a performance. I don't remember who it was but he had a "rivalry" with some guy and the trash talk was so forced it felt like it was from a script or something. It was like watching pro wrestling, the wrestlers don't actually hate each other it's just a storyline to draw in viewers.Not even trying to single out Punk, I'd call out other newer pros but they're so unmemorable that I can't. At least Punk made an effort to be interesting when if it felt manufactured.Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go rewatch a real fgc rivalry, LTG getting bodied publically by Viscant.
>>724359469scrawt has been playing games for years too
Remember when basic SF BnBs for most characters didn't deal a shitload of damage, even in the corner? Remember the era before high, meterless, resourceless damage became the standard? Remember the hype whenver you did see someone deal a highly damaging combo? Honestly, this isn't even Street Fighter anymore.inb4 a half dozen cherrypicked webms of full cashouts
>>724378765who is that?
>>724366778people said shit like this when Fchump beat daigo in sf4fighting games are just like that, sometimes the scrub wins
>>724380737I don't think any of these people were around for world war 1 and 2.
>>724381571>Just kill the game bruhAight its time to retire unc
>>724382478
>>724381571You can’t because having no meter in 6 means you’re fucked and the first person to land a hit gets to infinite true block string across the whole screen. The system mechanics are a disaster
Its not like daigo is completely washed.He got to grand finals of some other big sf tournament recently. He choked on the last round but still.
>>724382696Nobody talks about World Warrior when they’re discussing competitive balanceThere’s plenty to complain about in ST too but at least have the courtesy of posting ST shit instead
>>724382524Tyla
>>724379480You're a miserable faggot who's never won anything, who are you to judge?
>>724382141What makes SF4 so unique is that you actually have character royalists, not even 3rd Strike has that.>best E. Ryu/Ryu: Daigo>best Ken: Momochi>best Akuma: Tokido>best Gief: Snake Eyes>best Dudley: Smug>best Yun: Kazinoko>best Yang: Mago>best Abel: Keoma>best Sagat: Bonchan>best Makoto: Misse>best Dhalsim: Sabin>best Ibuki: Sako>best Hugo: Stormkubo>best Decapre: Infiltration>best Seth: poonkgo>best Rolento: Nemo>best Juri: AiAi>best C. Viper: Latif>best Guy: Mark Teddy>best Cody" BJ Unchain>best Guile: Dieminion>best Gen: Xian>best Poison: Xian>best Balrog: PR Balrog>best Adon: Gamerbee>best Rose: Luffy>best Vega: Reiketsu>best Bison: Gagapa>best El Fuerte: Pepedy>Best Fei Long: Fuudo>best Sakura: Chris G>best T. Hawk: Kojikog>best Rufus: J. Wong>best Blanka: Nishikin>best Oni: Santhrax>best Chun: Valmaster>best DJ: some Japanese dude that made one top 8, I believe that was the only time we had a DJSF4 had variety in character usage that has yet to be witnessed, even fucking Hakan was used by infiltration in multiple stacked tournaments.
>>724381571>>724382894What they should have done is make the game *playable* in burnout by not having increased blockstun or unstoppable DI splats. Instead just cripple damage and oki on conversions and remove slime when burned out so you can start people on 2 bars and only recover 2 bars when burnout ends
>>724360070shut up. you dont play fighting games.
>>724383153SFV also had more character variation than SF6 at least prior to Luke. What makes SF6 so bad in this respect is the strength of the universal mechanics which overshadow differences in character kits. 80% of Sf6s roster is playing exactly the same slime game
>>724379705I don't really use that word as you can see.
>>724367617He's a chronic drinker and he doesn't work out as much, plus biology, time and shit is definitely catching up to him
>>724359469doesn't daigo himself suck off this game and says its better than 3 or 4
>>724383602Daigo has never liked 3 and 4. He likes fighting games that reward the attacker, i.e. 5 and 6.
>>724383153>you actually have character royalists, not even 3rd Strike has thatyou are the dumbest gorilla nigger of all time
>>724383602He does but when you hear him lay out his case it's 100% from a "more players = good, no matter what" perspective and doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the game itself.
>>724359469Damn, scrawt is winning sf6 too? Unc still got it.
Just play fun games instead.
>>724367260I think people underestimate how hard it is to motivate yourself to become great at something you hate. Especially if that thing shits on everything you loved about the previous iterations and not for the first time.
>>724363907>>724380113Wasn't Daigo also an anime player?
>>724383926What people miss about this is Hayao was basically going for a taunt kill. That drop kick is a suicide button that people only use to troll.
>>724376295People say being good at rock paper scissors is an actual skill but why the fuck would you dumb a videogame down to that if you had infinitely more variables before that?The answer is its a mass market product designed for retards.
>>724384432Actual skill in fightans constitutes players doing everything in their power not to willingly put themselvs in the corner, or in a point-blank range where naturally you are forced to guess because you can do literally all of your options. You put yourself in a space thats' favorable to you and unfaborable to your opponent, and you play as unpredictably as possible. Also Daigo couldn't care less about the competitive circuit, he hasn't had good results since SF4, he obviously doesn't care anymore since he gets more money drinking at home in front of a camera than he does travelling around the world.
>>7243839263rd strike is all Chun Li, Ken and Yun.Let it go anon, SF3 is a solved game
>>724378765Child company btw
>>724384853At the last co-op cup 16 out of 19 characters were represented in top 8 (40 players). There are no tournaments big enough anymore to tier whore. Play who you like, bitching about tiers is cope for how bad you are.
You'd think with the amount of people who suck off sf4 it would have some kind of scene.Posers just like to talk about how good it is, they don't actually play it.
>>724384125Webm unrelated
Only Jiyuna can save Daigo
>>724385336I don’t talk about how good it is as a video game because 5 was better. The person praising it in this thread is specifically praising the scene around it, not the gameplay mechanics
>>724364587Justin for the most part plays a super fundamentals game, basic combos, even the game specific mechanics are never pushed that hard.because of this playstyle him playing older titles or jumping into new ones works pretty well, he is literally just taking them to school on then fundies.
>>724367324its surely a bit of all 3but his playstyle really doesn't suit sf6. 5 for a long time didn't either, so I wouldn't be surprised if as the game shifts he might start doing a lot better if it shifts more towards what he is good at.
>>724384301hayao is godlike enough that I don't doubt he knew that that button goes over ken's wakeup super specifically he is unironically one of the best grappler players of all time in ANY fighting game, and in 3rd strike specifically his level of knowledge and ability to outplay other people is on the level of kurodahe is no fucking joke
>>724359632>Slime outWTF does that even mean?
>>724384129Daigo has talked multiple times how much he disliked 4 and 3
>>724379652because street fighter 3 suckedthen second impact is still quite badand third strike was seen as still being an awful broken kusoge with a big difference between the top tiers and the rest.the game only gained popularity as a lot of time was put into exploring every detail about the system mechanics and how to abuse them.
>>724359469Honestly this is a horrible fate.>be old>don't quit fighting games >continue to practice and analyze every tiny detail and frame of the game for hours everyday as if the world's fate relied on you winning>lose to younger peopleThere are lots of other games or things in life to do, but people like Daigo are afraid of missing a day of practice.
>>724385636Lurk more you fucking faggot. And don't fucking post in a fighting game thread if you don't play fighting games.
>>724385336The netcode is complete dogshit if you don't live down the street from the other guy. There's a reason literally every game is rollback now.
Cammy's design is great but they really fucked up her face for some reason.
>>724385617Third Strike is the greatest fighting game ever made.
Why do people meme like Daigo is some kind of cold calculating legend dude was a random DPing drunk who is only famous for le epic EVO moment 37 (he lost that tournament btw)Watch streams
>>724385934That's not +R
>>724385947Get a job.
>>724385947>Stream monster
>>724385617No real reason to expect super there instead of ex dp tho.
>>724385778What does "slime out of a corner" mean, though?
>>724359469Daigo is an old as hell alcoholic of course he can't keep up, and he still earns more money than everyone here and most young pros
>>724385336>shit netcode>primitive online infrastructure>newer consoles have more input lagFor many people, the game is unplayable
>>724386136ex dp is only 4 parries in any direction, wakeup super is high parry only and the super flash screen freeze can also make it more difficult to deal with it was simply an insane read and knowledge check, which is shit hayao does all the time
>>724364694>type luminathat aint melty blood, and never will be
>>724385947>only famous for le epic EVO moment 37Yes, ONLY that and definitely not for winning 6 evos, 4 topangas (in a row), and the first international street fighter competition ever held in 1998. Also he was dominant in 2020 and was a big favorite to win capcom cup if not for chink flu.
>>724371028google what a shimmy is, retard
>>724386398You'd parry the first hit the same either way and assume it was a dp unless there was a screen freeze. Not really a meaningful difficulty difference, even for much worse players.
>>724386594the point is that wakeup super is explicitly harder to deal with because you can only parry it one way, which is why frankie did it, and why hayao read itpeople do wake-up low forward dp in 3rd strike to fuck you over for high parrying on their wake-up and it actually works, 3s is not a game of guaranteed shit at all
>>724385078Dan "The Man" was right all along.What a legend
>>724379109>>724369920>gentleman's agreement in a competitive enviromentIf gentlemen's agreements are needed on anything in any game ever, the game isn't well designed, which is not something you should ever blame players for. Now it is pretty difficult to balance all moves between all those different characters in a way were all of them can be competitive and still have their identities intact.Which is precisely why fighting games with a gorillion characters are bound to be dogshit.> If I paid $1200 for a flight, $200 for a hotel room, and $100 for a ticket to the venue and my reward was watching a nigga throw loop his opponent to death in the grand finals, I'd throw my fucking chair at the stage If I was a fucking retard who spends so much money on something so stupid, and then be upset that people in a tournement play to win and not to give me a show, the only thing I would throw is myself from the highest floor of a 10 story building. Should've watched wrestling instead.
>>724369920You are a SCRUB.
I'm going to assume they lowered the skill ceiling again? It's not surprising. Very indicative of modern gaming as a whole. Yea wow so exciting. The viewers will love this. YOU CAN BEAT DAIGO! But is it really something you actually feel pride in if he had to be handicapped for you to do it?
>>724383928Do FG players actually like the randomness? Or is it just a manufactured consent because this is all that's being made available for us?>>724384125Under Night became a random slopfest as well, dude. You can't tell me the interactions in that game aren't just people guessing at this point
>>724359469as a smash bros melee enjoyer, all of these other fighting games look so ass
>>724389446You're a netplay zoomer playing a modded version of the game and pedolee has been an unrecoverable laughing stock since the Hax debacle
>>724389609I do personally want melee to die as an esport after what happened to hax and how literally no one besides mew2king said anything about it. But the fact is, melee is the only really good fighting game. Or do you think this looks good? >>724369657It doesn't even come close. >pedoleee No, those were ultimate players. Smash ultimate players are mentally confused and retarded, and this is obvious because, although melee exists, they choose to play a terrible version of smash and pretend it's a legitimate game. When the new smash game comes out, no one will ever play ultimate again.
>>724359469he's 50 years old
>>724359469god SF6 is such a fucking tragedy of a game.put it in the grave and let us all go back to the better street fighter ___Five___
>>724386152see: >>724385778
>>724385778>Waah waah you need to know fighting game terminology!!! Not everyone is black or whitetrash
>>724359469>>series destroys all your years of training and hard workYou say that like any sort of gaming related, hah, hard work and, hohohoh, training is ought to be held as important.A game is a mechanism. A mastery of its usage and its exploitation is by very nature a so-so finite thing, limited to any select system.You can't git gid using normal means? That's okay. You can? Cool. There's nothing more to it.
>>724389894But was IS sliming out of a corner?
The FGC sucks, it's all a bunch of posers just like sports fans. It actually fucking sucks. Nobody wants any actual discussion or to get better, it's just to rant, to roasterfag, to console war tier faggotry.
>>724379652it was the third version of a bad game on a console nobody had in a time where you had no one to play with unless you were american or japanese near an arcadefighting games are the emptiest, most worthless games if you don't have a thriving community
>>724390361There's no results in the glossary so I guess its a made up term by that anon or its extremely niche to his locals.https://glossary.infil.net/
>>724390897Hmm, I figured that anon was either a poser or part of a tight knit group. Right now I'm leaning more towards the former.
Starcraft Brood War still has big semiannual tournaments, so what's wrong with Super Turbo? It couldn't be that it's all LARPers who don't actually care enough to actually play the game and organize a tournament instead of circlejerking each other over old good, new bad, right? Maybe it's not as popular as you thought, huh?
Slime is drive rush, retards.
>>724361330>crowdit's pools and clearly some minor tournament
>>724385778and you niggers are wondering why the fgc is dead and dying
>>724390361Are you retarded? Just watch the webm or read the thread. I don't know the term but it's pretty clear what he meant by "sliming out of the corner".
How long do i wait for a delay in a combo
>>724391205it's because super turbo sucks ass, anon
>>724371557after the new collection released, it seems no one really know how to play mvc2 except some big boys, in every other game, 3s, cvs2, usf4 etc when old big boys go back they find lots of other people who are either really close are far better than them, like when daigo tried 3s and usf4 he could hardly play, but thats to be expected there are are lot of people who stuck to them, but how is it possible, in mvc2 the difference between even really good mvc2 players and justin, is so big its not even funny,is it because mvc2 has basically no presence in japan.it justs in most retro games in all regions there are some people who stuck to them always and have become really good, far better than ogs of old times, 3s has lots of great american players, nica ko, neem, exodus, tenran etc,japan is already full of killers,but no one like those in mvc2?
>>724391205There are lots of ST tournaments. Also there was a side tournament at Evo not on this list.
>>724379652the game released at bad time, capcom survived in that time while snk literally went bankrupt, does that mean kof 98/99 were bad of course not., apparently arcades were shutting down, everything switched playstation etc
>>724391504No one could just hop on a game they haven't played in 10 years and do anything, especially if it required high execution.
>>724379652>jive>3rd in qualityBAHAHAHA
>>724390361>>724390897>>724391084Drive rush in SF6 is mockingly called "green slime" by its detractors because that's what it looks like. Sliming in this case is Daigo trying to drive rush (green sliming) out of the corner.
>>7243831533s do have lots of char loyalist>best yun: mester, sho, yakkun and other lots>best chun: nuki, michael-tan, mov>best ken: deshiken, kashi, boss, neem>best makoto: tominaga, mimora, haitani>best urien: rb, messatsu, taihai, dr steelhammer, resolve (retired: rx)>best dudley: yomoda, gunfight, kokujin>best yang: ko, roshihikari, yuri, tokura>best ryu: kuni, vanao, heboryu>best alex: kazuya, genki>best gouki: yukiotoko, match, dot>best hugo, ysb, hayao>best ibuki: higa tenran>best necro: sugiyama>best remy: pierrot/lucifer>best Q: tm>best 12: tama>best oro: thanatos, hungbee>best sean: pachikasu
>>724369920I now want to see someone throw a chair at the stage after someone throw spams a match. Bonus points if they yell something like "stop with the gay ass throws and fight like a real man".
You will pay $40 to watch the throw loop championship live, right?
>>724385336despite whatever shit netcode it gets more players than cotw looool
>>724392891If throw loops gets a chair thrown at you, Chris G would have been murdered a long time ago in UMVC3 for the war crimes that Morridoom brought.
>>724392951Making clips of Blaz shitting the bed is always fun but that doesn't really need to be day-of if no one else is watching it anyway.
>>724393410Blaz at least brings something unique.
>>724392891>i want to see [person do something violent]every time with you redditors
>>724391205very few people in the western fgc enjoy video games enough to stick to one once the hype wears off. they will always go to the latest thing.
>>724393528>'023ers think backdashing zangief is a gawdlike playembarrassing
>>724393741more impressed with the punish
>>724393812Why did four hits deal so much damage? Why did it take an entire week's time to pass in between them?
>>724383928That's all of you, you're hopeless whores.
>>724393925Ryu hits like a truck and akuma has the lowest HP
>>724393812Combos haven't been impressive in street fighter since at least sf4 and that was just about the shortest combo possible anyway.>>724393925The cutscenes are pog in the trailers but not so much the thousandth time you sit through it.
>>724393925>jumping heavy kick starter>from Ryu, one of the hardest hitting character>on Akuma, with the lowest health in the game
>>724394105that's not heavy kick retarded cocksucker faggot ryu's HK doesn't hit crossup
>>724364642a word from nickelodeon that's now used by brainrotten internet kids to say rape or kill
>casually seening this nigga walking along the streets in my hometown until I realised it EVO theremy autism was too big tho to say something
>>724393812>gets a hit>instead of finishing combo burns himself out betting on an overhead>can't DI back so holds up instead (20f reaction, not bad but not insane)>almost blows the round but wins jumping a demon that even the announcers saw cominghttps://youtu.be/mXXrTs6T0s0?si=lCfPw9531gGGdqH5&t=272yawn
>>724359469So these "fights" are decided by who reacts first to start and uses the long combo he memorized? No wonder no one cares about fighting games esports.
>>724394852I haven't played Sagat yet in SF6. Why the fuck is Sagat rushing down a character instead of throwing fireballs?
>>724394790>force a reaction check from halfscreen>if you fail it I get 60% damage + pressure>if you check it I back off and wait for the cooldown on my "force a reaction check from halfscreen" move to expire while watching out for your forced reaction check>repeat until someone's dead
>>724394974Best part is they took away half his fireballs, not that you could use them in this game anyway.
>>724359469Not even trying to defend SF6 or whatever, but people don't understand that this shit happens to even the best players sometimes. I've seen sets where the two competitors will literally take turns perfecting each other. I've seen sets in Smash where somebody that's like a top 50 player will get 3 stocked or whatever and then comeback and win the set.
>>724394974what the fuck else do you do in slime fighter?
>>724359469insane that this is what the tekken devs want tekken 8 to be
I never watched street fighter after 5 releasedIf i want to see giant combo i'll watch marvel or fighterZ where there's some actual rhythm and flash to it instead of bullshit smearsAs a spectator i cannot understand why they made any of the changes that they did for 5 and 6
>>724359469Why not play the older entries in the series if they are better? I don't understand, shouldn't be too hard to make tourneys for them either. Melee players at least don't have that problem and they have more people coming into the scene, there is that literal zoomer puff doing dabs on stream.
>>724359469>series destroys all your years of training and hard workIt's called age. Django isn't young anymore, reaction time and reflexes goes down as the years pass you by, and it will happen to you too. I used to be best gamer when I was young, but not anymore.
>>724379480It's funny, because I swear people have said over and over that SF6 is designed so anyone can have their own personal Evo moment.Well, there you go.
>>724395713Fighting game players can't comprehend playing anything that isn't the largest game at the time and will attack others simply for enjoying smaller/older games.
>live in middle of nowhere>no local scene to go have fun>game is still somewhat relevant and has enough players online>soon it will die and I don't want to leaveI don't know what I'm going to do, even if it is just sunk-cost fallacy.
If they remove raw drive rush, would think that the game would improve?
>>724394572just yell lets go justin at the top of your lungs. faggot
>>724397492If you're talking playing it at a competitive level, then undoubtedly.Raw DR compresses neutral making spacing an almost worthless skill to have. Any character can be in your face from fullscreen at lightspeed. Even if you react correctly many have ways to cancel drive rush to bait a reaction and punish it. Raw DR basically removes the notion of "neutral" that traditionally defined Street Fighter. 1 bar is far too cheap for how quickly meter regenerates even automatically by doing nothing for a couple seconds.
>>724365157once upon a time the thing you grew up with was pushed by the very same people. live and learn... live and learn.
I don't know why people hates slime. I hate passive play so fucking much, you're not cool for spamming long pokes in neutral and going "hurrdurr it's called zoning man look at me im zoniiiing".and don't even fraud at me, we know most zoners have decent close up tools and at least one to two get out of free buttons.
>>724396884Dunno why Meleefags are able then, especially when Nintendo fucks with them all the time.Imagine losing to tendies.
>>724385636SF6 has a mechanic where you cover yourself in a paint visual and dash forward. People used to call it "splatooning", now they call it "slime".>>724385778I played the SF6 beta and it was fucking ass(SF neutral killed by universal super dashes and parries, already had DLC and a ftp style grind for points FomO mechanic up and running ALSO advertised as being charged for the real tiers of) Not everyone has no standards
>>724394974Splatoon Fighter 6 is aping anime games with its design choices.As such, like any given anime fighter, everyone is rushdown, rushdown with fireballs or rushdown with command grabs
boring af not being able to close gaps
>>724386152>>724389962>>724391240>/v/ cries about how important gatekeeping is>gets mad when they are gatekept and told to lurk
>>724393410Half of these are just SF6's dogshit atrocious input reader at work.A couple are just gambles that didn't payoff, notably the first one. If he didn't super there and his opponent pushed he was dead anyway.
>>724364642producing excessive amounts of precum from your buttplug that is wired to the vibration of your controller.
>>724400281The difference is that even the most autistic setplay focused anime games that aren't called blazblue have actual neutral inbetween their offense. It's faster paced and uses the air way more, but it's there.
>>724369920BASED
>>724382524Kimberly 1 frame after round start.
>>724394974Capcom did away with that in 5. He's a big button character now
>>724383352the one other option he had was hope that throwing a fireball would help him you faggot retard
>>724393623>>i want to see [person do something violent]>every time with you redditors
>>724399398You're just too retarded to do footsies
>>724408659Footsies is only fun when you're both trying to hit each other, not when one guy just sitting back throwing shit like a fucking pussy.
I can tell there's just a whole bunch if people in here who don't play fighting games yet complaining about them louder than the ones who do.
larping fags not knowing who scrawt is, hilarious
>>724394974Sagat is still fireballs the character, he just has pretty threatening alt options and Elena has some that skip fireballs
>>724363907>the best Melty Blood playersLOLLMAO EVENthis is why I dropped fighting games this gen
>>724395713What do I do after I've already sunken hundreds if not thousands over hours into those games and I'm playing the same 5 people over and over who are becoming increasingly mentally unstable for obvious reasons. Shit gets old. Additionally fighting games have been bad for at least 2 gens now, where they're all designed to have the meta shaken up with a monthly patch then abandoned immediately when a new game comes out because no one really likes them. Its just over, dead genre.
there's going to be some copium from Vfags but its true the complete removal of all your defensive options started with V. inb4>It GOt gOoD iN ThE lASt uPdaTEhad to wait 7 fucking years for your shit ass game to get "good"
>>724380026learn oki
>>724359469>BRVWN MED BVLL annihilates 50 year old asian salary man (colorized)
>>724364587>>724385484How does one develop fundamentals?
>>724411850you can't without looking at 50 youtube tutorials. Even then you need to spend 10k hours in training so you can consistently do the nearly frame perfect motion inputs consistently. Then MAYBE you can play online
>>724412031Motion inputs aren't a problem for me.I'm asking for people who actually play fighting games to define how they improved at fundies. Combos are straight forward, you either learn them or you don't, but fundies are a bit more of an ethereal concept.
>>724385078lil nigga got slimed
>>724393812>streeto faighta 2 dashi>faightingu action gamuthis genre is is straight up QTE dogshit now wtf
This gen of fighting games is absolute dogshit, but everyone is pretending we're in some sort of golden age.Take me back to the dark ages if this is what the golden age is like
>>724413084I am well aware the current gen of fighting games is trash. The only one I play is Granblue and even that is riddled with all kinds of cancer, but at least visually it doesn't make me want to gouge my eyes out.
>>724411256SFV was good as early as the end of Season 1
>>724383153best oni is Wao
>>724397492You'd have to give grapplers actual meterless oki after a grab or some horrifically good pokes to lean on in neutral, as well as nerf every projectile designed to lose to perfect parry into drive rush or otherwise implement castwide anti-projectile tools that could be used on reactionin short, no, reintroducing the worst parts of SF5 while cancel rush's rigid grip on combo structure would not improve the game
>>724412605It's just something that comes with experience. You have to actively think ahead during matches. What's the best button that you can throw out right now? What's the likeliest thing your opponent will do? You need to recognize patterns, everyone has habits that you can exploit. Once you play a lot of games with this mindset, you get a feel for what you should be doing in any scenario.
>>724412605watch your replays, think about why you and your opponent were doing what you were doing and what you could have done differently with the information you had
>>724394974Blaz as a player does not like to play slow when he could just kill you, and loves overheads you can combo after
>>724413973>reintroducing the worst parts of SF5...not having a retarded, universal neutral skip was one of the worst parts of SFV?
>>724359469>continues to perform in every single Street Fighter regardlessIt's time to face the facts that Daigo hasn't accomplished anything of note in fighters for over a decade and is simply washed
>no one has posted the noodles webm
>>724415035Doesn't he keep losing that that fat Dominican faggot?
>dude SF6 is randumb slime casino slot machine>check EVO top 16 every year>it's 90% the same dudes I recognise from SFV or SFIV or even older
>>724384140He was a gg Sol player for a little while
>>724414436No, that's boring. Why do that when I can play instead?
scrawt has been kicking jp ass for years across multiple games, whats the issue here?
>>724379480I remember something similar happened when some noname faggot boasted about perfecting FAB in Xrd using Leo, who's a busted ass braindead character, while Potemkin was completely gutted and low tier during the entire game's life span
>>724411031>What do I do after I've already sunken hundreds if not thousands over hours into those games and I'm playing the same 5 people over and over who are becoming increasingly mentally unstable for obvious reasons.Why not play with more people on tourneys or something? Again, Meleefags have been doing that since...? Game came out? There are even invitationals and shit to this day. And that's for a game that is considered a SHIT game by FGC, so why don't they support old games themselves and get proper scenes for the good ones?
I thought they said drive rush was broken, what happened?
>>724359469>wastes life on irrelevant shit>gets shocked when it turns out it amounted to nothing
>>724379480i got a perfect match on a well known +R eddie player and my hands were shaking with excitement, i would probably smash my controller if i managed to eliminate daigo.
He got checked TWICE and then didn't react to DIIt's fucked up because japanese players cannot play unga bunga. Only western players find method to that madness
>>724359469KWAB
>>724417863Have -you- led a life that is better than literally getting paid to play video games and travel?What do you even do?
>le ´"fgc"´Doesn't exist.Meds.
>the FGC... le doesn't exist!Meds
>>724417863Daigo is the protagonist of his own manga. You are just a faceless /v/irgin.
>>724409701the webm you posted is essentially what most fighting games are. Especially sf6
>>724420759Post an equivalent situatoin
>>724420957>>724359469
>>724412605It's all experience. The footsies handbook gives a breakdown of what footsies actually is in real examples for you to also implement into your gameplay. You have to be consciously looking for and recognizing these scenarios and their answers. Thing is, people not only don't recognize them all the time, but also have the mental overhead of worrying about execution. Beginners suck at footsies because they are putting mental energy into just operating their character. Once muscle memory takes over and you don't think about those things and you move "without thinking" then that frees up the mental space to recognize neutral interactions better and faster and be conscious about how you respond. That's why neutral and footsies is harder than learning combos.
>>724396071You can't react to 50:50s anon.
>>724402969>Gatekeeping an esport genreNormal people won't play your game either way, they are just here to watch the pros. The same is true for RTS games and 1v1 duels in arena shooters.
>>724422274Retards here think you can gatekeep games as a concept, so yeah
>>724415236If I told you I'm going to make a new version of chess by adding some new gimmicky piece like a regenerator or a common move to like teleportation after 2 turns without moving the players with the most experience with the base system would continue to rank high from their fundamentals and familiarity with new and old player habits, but the edition would still be barely thought out trash.
>>724385778holy fucking worthless nigger lmao
>>724363907kys nigger
>>724364587Zoomers like Betty, Big Bird, etc. only play SF6 for appearancesJustin actually loves fighting games
>>724418213>I just want Capcom to make moneyUmehara-san, that's what led to pre- DmC.It's called "earnings" because it has to be earned.
>>724411850>>724412605Play a lot of different fighting gamesWith the goal to compete so you actually get to experience the real game instead of smashing into each other like a traincrashAnd what other anons have told you.
>>724359469SF6 is such a trash game. I don't understand why Japoos love it. At least Jive still required some actual skill to win and its gameplay wasn't boiled down to ungaing like a fucking ape.
>>724427340lol
>>724371557Newfags (which includes most 09ers) really don't understand just how dominant Wong was at Marvel when that was THE game in the American scene. For a few years it was basically Wong and then everyone else (Duc was probably #2) and he was undefeated not just at Evo but literally every Marvel tournament he played in for like 3 years until Sanford beat him at Breakpoint. At that it levelled out a bit to where Justin was still the clear #1 but Sanford, Duc and Yipes were a lot more even with him.
the fgc has been fraudulent ever since they banned infiltration. imagine if the nba had banned kobe bryant after the rape accusation even after it was dropped in court just because people at espn didn't like him.
>>724427669Explain to me which part of what he said is wrong.Are you saying SFV doesn't take more skill than SF6? If so, how is 6 more skill intensive?
>>724429108are those fags still virtue signaling about esports money?
So pic related was right all along?
>>724376771>she was beating similar retired pros in JapanYa got worked. Japanese entertainment in ever aspect is faker than pro wrestling and she's a pretty young woman and popular streamer which means she makes for a good advertiser/spokesperson. They put her in matches against famous old guys, the old guys dog it and essentially throw the match so her brand builds and she becomes more valuable to companies and other big players in the fighting game, video game and streaming scenes. She didn't count on the Wazzler not being part of her kayfabe though and once she was in a match with someone who wasn't going to sandbag for her she ate shit.>b-but she actually got some winsShe's a pro who plays the game constantly. Justin basically doesn't give a shit about Dix. That she lost exposed her as being a fraud.
>>724365157I picked up Project Justice this year and it's the most fun I've had with a fighting game in a long, long time. Shame I'm stuck on PS4/5 because I only have an old potato laptop and am a poorfag so getting a new PC to play it on Steam where I might encounter more than one player in a day (maybe) is out of the question.
>>724415035He got washed by Daigo and cried bitch tears though.
>>724359632He isn't washed up at all. Capcom lowered the skill ceiling so now it's much, MUCH easier to pull off optimal shit.
>>724363827Don't fall for the Third Strike meme. It's genuinely not very fun to play, pretty much entirely because of parrying.
>>724427669The fact that Xiaohai, the top guy in prime unga game KoF, is a top SF6 player is a damning indictment of Dix.
>>724431387you are retarded and bad get filtered
>>724383153>not even 3rd Strike has thatWhat? 3S had guys like J and RX who completely defined their characters (Makoto and Urien respectively).
>>724364213there was a whole roundtable discussion where menaRD calls the game random because he'll either win evo or drown in pools with no clear reason as to why one happens over the other
>>724382141The only time SF4 was actually hype was Gamerbee beating Justin and that's largely because Justin had earlier called Adon a trash character. The SF4/MvC3 era is definitely better than the current ESlop era but it's not as good as the 2000s Thuggery era. But you're right in that the personalities, rivalries, trash talk and shit aren't good and more forced and that's because of the ESlopification of the scene thanks to Capcom and corporate sponsors.You're never going to have fights and the very real threat of stabbings over money matches. A guy like SmoothViper isn't going to be able to cause bitches to literally cry with all of his trash talking like he used to. You're not going to have everyone, of every race, casually calling each other niggas and shit. It's a consequence of the scene moving from arcades frequented by poorfag ghetto dwellers or second-gen Asians looking to escape from their insane tiger parents and typical online middle class wimps.
>>724396884A lot of that is on the compaies themselves and ESlopification. Players want money, companies only put money/prize pools in the newest game because they use Evo and other tournaments as advertising and they have no interest in advertising anything byt their newest game. So players play the new game and abandon the old ones because the new game is where they'll be able to make money.The only time this hasn't worked is Flop of the Wolves and that's entirely because it's an incompetently made game at every conceivable level from visuals to character roster to marketing to taking all the worst aspects of modern fighting game design and smashing them together so nobody wanted to play it in spite of how much Saudibux were being pumped into the prize pool.
>>724398421>Any character can be in your face from fullscreen at lightspeedNot any character, any good character. A big reason Manon is so ass is because she has probably the worst Slip 'n Slime in the game.
>>724415236"Random game" doesn't mean 50/50. It means the coin you're flipping is only biased 60-70% instead of 99% like it should be. The longer a tournament is the more likely the better players filter to the top, but there are still always a few complete randos and third world teenagers that make it there that could never have done shit in any older game.
>>724399398Because you're not playing the actual game. It's like how current NBA is just chucking threes and current NFL is just long passes and QBs running. It's just lame shit done to create HYPE.
Daigo's a special case where he's sitting in an uncanny precipice between pro player and content creator, who seems to be dividing his focus between the two as opposed to JWong who went all-in on the latter and hasn't shown any signs of having to regret it. JWong won
How the hell do you guys even enjoy modern fighting games when everything is the same freaking game? - 1 Button Special- 1 Button Supers- Very Grounded (basically everything wants to be street fighter)- Combos that are so easy and do so much damage you can't even say it's skill because everyone can do itMan that Marvel Token beta was so ass. It was the most dry versus games I have ever seen and even the biggest shills like Maxdood knows it's a dry game that needs more tech
SF6 is good because it makes /v/ seethe.
>>724439120xD
>>724437898>everything wants to be street fighterSetting aside that >street fighter very grounded, everything wants to be guilty queer that's why everything has installs and meters now.
>>724364587>woman challenges man >losesWaaaooowww I am like so shocked that happened
>>724440130street fighter invented those mechanics bro
>>724440216Which SF had an install before dragon install?
>>724440385Street Fighter III - Yun's Gen'ei Jin1 year before Guilty Gear.
>>724440841
>>724440903There were 2 iterations of SF3 before Third Strike friend.
>>724359469You must be talking about Tekken 8
>>724440216Erm actually, Darkstalkers invented that mechanic
>>724364587Let's go JustIIIIN
>>724431387filtered
>>724440952Nope.
>>724441117I'm pretty sure there are...
>>724379652Genuinely just wrong place wrong time
>>724359469>no umeshoryu>peed on by literal whoumedrowned in pools RIP
>>724389795You new faggots who play Melee use bullshit controllers that need to be modded.That's cheating faggots. No one respects you chodes and everyone would rather you faggots kill yourselves and fuck off for good.
>>724441332Seethe more.Meleechads keep winning.
>>724392416It should be number 2 but I can actually see why people prefer IV so it's alright actually.>>724379652The real problem here is Dix being above literally anything except the original Street Fighter in terms of quality.
>>724389795>my party game is better than your party gamei wonder which smells worsean indian call center or a conference room full of smashbabbys?
>>724437898combos in older fgs also did retarded amounts of damage, only difference was the length of the combo
>>724441536I love this projection FGCucks as if they aren't part of the same shit.
>>724441754ten fucking dollars for a tiny stick of dollar store deodorant with a sticker on itthey deserve to have the place stunk up
>>724441754>screenshoting solid 4's opinion on x formerly twatteralso>$10 for deodorantwho the fuck was running this? that slant gook lapchi?
>>724441937>opinion>objective photo and statement
>>724441976>(You)>responding to my posts
>>724429063mvc2 sucks ass nobody cares. game is lame as fuck, you had to live in cali or ny and be a capcom stan to care about it because everyone else did
>>724441536>producer, roll the Smash national anthemhttps://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1761702433536293.webm
>>724442373>capcom cupOH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO FGCSISTERS HOW CAN THIS BE?!?!?!?!
>>724442373i forgot about thisalso>smashbabby unironically butthurtLOL
>>724395713Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code has been getting bigger and bigger recently, it had 52 players at EVO France IIRC, pretty huge for a tournament of the game outside of america. I've heard it gets way more participants in events made exclusively for french bread games like Climax of Night but I'm too lazy to search up the amount of entrants those get.
>>724441754Smearing pit paste or fumigating someone won't fix BO, it wouldn't be cheap or easy but the only direct way I can imagine results is if tournaments arranged a bulk customer guarantee discount with local Laundry & Spa places to have experts cleanse the shit from the source.
>>724395713We should all just ignore modern fighting games and play Snek Fighter instead.
>>724442037>you had to live in cali or nyThis was true for every fighting game before online play dipshit.
>>724389446have you tried The King of Fighters? The movement feels divine in that game.
>>724442037Back in the day Marvel got almost as many Evo entrants as Street Fighter, zoomie.
Are fighting games the vidya equivalent of learning to draw?
>>724385778Wait, people actually play them?I thought it was just a shitpostan thread for the last half a decade?Are you telling me that the last ~20 threads asking how to do a Z were done in good faith?
>>724416454>Why not play with more people on tourneys or somethinghow in the fuck is preparing for a tourney playing with more people, are you retarded
does anyone want to play 3rd strikeI'm really good
>>724437362DSP t-posing in anger about this
>>724443273How in the fuck is it not?Are YOU retarded?Seriously, what kind of stupid fucking question is that?
>>724441332It's not our fault the gamecube controller is awful
>>724443131drawing doesn't require an adversary so no, fighting games are more like martial arts.
>>724437898By playing a game that's technically from 2017.
>>724441117New Generation & 2nd Impact came out in 1997.
>>724443837Street Fighter 1 came out in 1987 and 2 came out in 1991
>>724359469Is Scrawt even that much younger than Daigo? Anyways, anime players always come out on top. I hope Daigo regrets becoming a Capcom shill.
>>724443384DSP also won by jacking off in front of his audience and not experiencing any significant backlash for it. Now that I think about it, DSP's O-face is something I could've gone my whole life without seeing, and yet it's burned to my mind. You could call that a W on a primal level.
>>724444272he's not even 30, he just looks old because he's kinda fat and mexican or whatever
>>724444468Oh wow, I thought he was mid 30's at least.
>>724369657looks pretty obnoxious. From what i understand you have to predict that he will throw and cant react when its happening like in Tekken?
Sf6 is the best fighting game ever created and as a 1900 Dhalsim player and long time high level player of the series, I will die on that hill.People that say otherwise1. Have rose tinted nostalgia glasses when examining the older games and didn't play them at a high level2. Lack fundamentals and reactions to cover options like drive rush3. Don't understand gambling is the essence of fighting games and that pros have been playing what sf6 essentially is for years. This game levels the playing field to a game of tactic and strategy like chess.
>>724416454it requires time, effort and a fuckton of luck to make a fighting game seem interesting in the eyes of a normalfag, something smashtroons have an upper hand since they play a very easy to learn crossover game that only autists and manchildren care about.A niche, hardcore fighting game that gets 20 players once in a blue moon doesn't magically get new people just because tournaments for it keep happening, even melty had to go through a global pandemic + series revival to gather some shills like picrel and they KEEP getting bathroom jokes to this day
>>724444650Throws are 5f startup with a 9f tech window I believe, but 14f reaction would be pretty crazy even for top pros. Daigo was doing ~12f hit confirms and whiff punishes with some consistency in 2020 (during a short window when he actually gave a shit for the first time in years) but that was beyond even what other top-5 players known for insane reactions could do.
>>724384125uni would be amazing without the tug of war mechanic
>>724445005>randomness is good akshuallyBro the runner up in the last world championships is a 15 year old famous for killing himself in every tournament with random accidental tatsus and the winner literally had undiagnosed brain damage. This game is trash.
>>724445417Yet they're better than anyone posting here.Curious.
>>724385778>dozens of "please play our genre!" threads weekly>posts this shitlmaop
>>724369920ah I see you just bought the character pass. don't forget to pre-order next years pass only 2 characters this time due to balance constraints. one of them is hakan the other is rufus but he plays like hakan
>>724445409The music is the only good thing from that kusoge
>>724445540>please play our genre!Like fucking what. Everyone knows baiting keeps threads bumped automatically by outsiders like you.
>>724445476>you can't run a 4 minute mile so you have no right to laugh at that retard who forgot to tie his shoelaces in the olympics
>>724445654This but unironically.
>>724445540Why do /v/troons get so mad when their heckin precious gatekeeping is applied to them?
>>724370865but why didn't he use invincible wakeup isn't cammys shoryuken OD safe? better to use the drive meter than die or was he in risk of burnout? wait let me watch it again and see what's going on.
>>724445417Not once did the word random appear anywhere in that post. Like I was implying, you lack an understanding of how fighting games work if you think that. Every fighting game in history is "random" at the pro level by the logic people use to apply that word to sf6.It's just scrub cope, just like it was in sfv and sfiv when people cried about those games.
>>724445840>isn't cammys shoryuken OD safe?lolno
>>724415236daigo looks like shit is he an alcoholic with a family?
>>724445853"Randomness" isn't binary. The question is how many games would Billy McNobody (MR 1600) take off Mena in a FT100. If it's more than about five then the game is shit.
>>724445991hes 44, all asians shrivel up around that age regardless of marital status
>>724445409it just tells you to block sometimes instead of always mashing
>>724445409the tug of war stuff is the coolest partit needs better movement, more proactive defensive options and shorter combos
>>724446261Wtf are you on about lol, I don't personally drop games vs 1600 shitters and players like MenaRD in tourny and the Japan gods online are consistent as fuck.Keep posting webms like this and op's though where washed up players make mistakes and play poorly, as if they somehow make your argument for you without having to think beyond the word "random"
>>724445409Without GRD mashing would be the only way out of pressure and you would just never get a turn against Yuzu or Hilda.
>>724446775>the Japan gods online are consistent as fuck.>>724380737Through three world warrior tournaments there have been 45 different players out of a maximum possible 48 to make top 16 in any of them.
>>724384301>Hayao was basically going for a taunt killDon't care that was the best thing out of EVO in years. comparable only to the ghost of evo
>>724446963that's a pretty shitty design even with grd, when the answer to pressure is literally just sit and wait for the clock to say its your turn
Several pros have already said the game is random, as if this wasn't completely evident already anyway.Why the fuck are there still people who try to deny that?
>>724447264No it's not. Because GRD is so important and shielding is so easy, the opponent must try to bait out your shield or mix you up early on which gives you opportunities to get out of pressure.It's an incredibly elegant system mechanic that defines the way the game is played.
>>724447061Yea and who beat these players? Street Fighter in Japan is the most competitive Street Fighter has ever been right now. The players winning WW put in work and aren't nobodies.
>>724385617>15 seconds of faggots playing will he won't hePeople like this shit?
>>724447898special moves becoming arbitrarily mad unsafe on block was the death knell for these games to any real mf
>>724447489Cope. Having a lot of players doesn't mean the top finishers will be random. Scottie Scheffler gets top 10 in almost every golf tournament he enters, and golf is one of the most random IRL sports (with far more competitive players than street fighter). Consistency isn't getting top 16 one week and 800th place the next. There are people in these top 16s who have entered literally zero other tournaments ever, and more who routinely place in the triple digits in anything that isn't a small online local. https://www.start.gg/user/ab87d2b3/results
>>724359469THAT'S Daigo? What the fuck happened...
>>724448818You see there's this thing called time.
>>724448860More about the food and alcohol desu.
>>724432552>the fgc is not a retard chimpfest anymore and fighting games are played by actual peopleOh noooooo, what a horrible shame
>>724448935Daigo wasn't kidding when he said Tokido has him beat in every other facet of life outside of Street Fighter.
>>724448860How do I stop this 'time' from happening to me?
>>724448452That guy is one of the best players in the world.Can you imagine playing online in Japan non stop for years against all those legends, and being this high ranked?You keep pointing to random shit to make your argument for you and still haven't formed any sort of argument to support what you're saying.
>>724449056
>>724449056Exercise, eat right, put on conditioner, etc.It'll slow it down but only for so long.
>>724369657Ah yes, Ryu, classically known as a rush down character.
>>724447345Because there's an endless horde of retards who don't get the actual problems that make it random and just spout insanely retarded shit that only make the few retards defending SF6 look reasonable.>>724448452>Having a lot of players doesn't mean the top finishers will be random.Having a wider field of competition does means there's going to be more people who wind up finishing at the top. That is a simple, statistical fact.
>>724431316if its easier he should still win.
>>724449228>Because there's an endless horde of retards who don't get the actual problems that make it random and just spout insanely retarded shit that only make the few retards defending SF6 look reasonable.So what makes it anymore "random" than the last 5 Street Fighters then?
>>724379652>jive above sf2Them fucking 08ers really changed the narrative. Without super turbo none of these sequels would even have seen the light of day, it is THE benchmark of fighting game for more than 30 years.The franchise.The icon.You might think it's below 3rd strike in quality but it shits down on 4, 5, 6 any day, any time.If you can't rely on supers and comeback mechanics to save your life, do you even play street fighter fucking nigger.Street Fighter 2 is to fighting games what Citizen Kane is to cinema.
>>724448957>gentrification and enshittification have destroyed a once great community>this is a good thingOutside a tiny number of huge names virtually no US streamers hit even mid-3 figures anymore, and even Punk barely gets much over 1k. WNF would get almost 20k viewers every week during SF4 while the official CapcomFighters streams for Blink Respawn never cracked 10k. Relative nobodies like Floe would get 2-3k viewers just pissing around watching youtube.
>>724449085>online rank means anythingTell that to Trashbox.The only argument I need is >45 different players in top 16 over 3 tournamentsEither the game is random as shit or the skill ceiling is so incredibly low that this many people can hit it. I'll let you choose which you want to believe.
>>724379480Good enough to fool tards like this >>724383080
>>724449538High damage, resulting in fewer interactions and thus less normalization of results.Generally strong offense which maximizes the snowball effect of one random hit, even a weak hit.The only defensive decent mechanics (perfect parrying) are all based on hard reads (read: guessing) and swing immediately to your own strong looping offense rather than reset to neutral or weaken the opponent's offense.Far less time spent in neutral, both due to slime rush and general knockdown/oki/offensive pressure design, with neutral being a generally less random section of the game that enables skill to show more clearly.Presence of far more high reward gambles, like drive impact or weirdly enough in SF6 just fucking neutral jumping.
>>724449228>Having a wider field of competition does means there's going to be more people who wind up finishing at the top. That is a simple, statistical fact.Doesn't matter how big the field is, the best players are the best players. If the list of top finishers is highly volatile it means either the game is inherently random or it's so easy that past a certain level of experience everyone is basically just as good as everyone else.
>>724449720>online rank means anythingit doesn't lol, he placed top 13 in a stacked WW (with Elena within the first two months of her release, when players were saying shes weak). What more evidence do you want?>the skill ceiling is so incredibly low that this many people can hit it.Are you a retard/esl and just don't read? That is exactly the point I've been making. SF6 certainly lowered the execution barrier and evened the playing field with pros so its become a game of reactions, strategy and tactics, and that is why the game is great and not "random". SF6 is how pros have been playing fighting games forever once they got past the execution barriers of the games they play. If you were a top SFIV or SFV or 3s player back in the day, you'd make the same arguments about those games. SF6 is Street Fighter in its purest form.People like you always gotta find some cope to justify being bad in games, its written in the annuls of FGC history and will continue until the end of times.
>>724449979No, their is direct correlation between competitor pool and the amount of people at the top. Stop being a retard.Doubly so in something like fighting games, which are all inherently random to a high degree, not just SF6. This doesn't change the above objective fact. You are focusing on shit that doesn't matter because you're a retard that doesn't understand either the game or statistics, and the only thing this achieves is giving plausible deniability to the game's horrific failures.
>>7243796522D game in a 3D world.
>>724449979>the best players are the best players.Have you considered that maybe there are other best players now too?
Feel like a lot of people on /v/ are also missing the point that there's more people travelling nowadays to compete, so there's a lot more high end competition.
>>724447148>ghost of evofighting games going downhill can be directly attributed to Chris Gondolajezus for ducking the ghost of marvel's money match. now we're stuck in the darkest timeline
the worst part about SF6 gameplay is that "people" actually fucking cheer for infinite throw loops in the corner at major tournaments. this was a conscious decision made by capcom, and the fans are eating it up
>>724450083>SF6 is Street Fighter in its purest form.They literally deleted half of Sagat's fireballs. Please put the retarded shit at the beginning of your post next time so I know not to waste my time reading the rest of it.>>724450106>No, their is direct correlation between competitor pool and the amount of people at the top.What part of "45 out of a maximum theoretically possible 48" didn't you understand? It's 6% more consistent than literally just drawing random names out of a jar and calling that the finishing order.>>724450276Except there aren't. There are dozens of players who all seem to be at a near identical skill level.
>>724450489>Except there aren't. There are dozens of players who all seem to be at a near identical skill level.So there are more best players now.
>>724450489If there are dozens of players who are near identical in skill level at the top would that not explain top 8s having variance?
>>724450527Do you know what "best" means?
>>724450645Yeah and you said that there's dozens of them now.
>>724450616Of course. Now what would explain there being dozens of players at the top with identical skill level? Hint: >>724449979
>>724450480theyll pay for tickets too, despite claiming they wontfgc is a fucking meme in 2025i cant take anyone who plays anything modern in a sincere way seriousliterally all losers who dont know it
>>724450697Hint, there's more people playing and entering.
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>>724450480It's true. When Kawano was throw looping Punk to win SFL the japanese crowd was screaming "Nage!" after each throw.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KysNc1uI2YY&t=780s
>>724450703you now remember that the next capcom cup is pay per view
>>724449874Oh and how could I forget>every character does the exact same fucking thing, meaning the game is tactically far simpler and more people will have the same optimized strategyObviously the game has lowered mechanical skill needs too but so did V and that wasn't nearly as random.
>>724450787to be fair, i cheer whenever punk gets his ass handed to him too, and thats japan rooting for the noble samurai to be the gaijin scum. but when i watched evo this year the crowd got "hype" for every throw loop. its probably a part of the chipotle ad budget, i know they have people in the crowd making noise during dead sets/games to make them seem lively
>>724385778all street fighters besides 3s fuckin suck, who cares if you dont know sf players are sliming eachother in their free time
>>724450797yeah, and capcom saw the outcry against it and laughed at the community, saying they had no intention of changing anything because they know said community is incredibly cucked nowthey wouldnt have dared in the past but when they live in a time when tekken devs can sell their playerbase a default blender object and make bank on it, the sky is the limit for publishers and taking money from fgc paypigs
>>724450962>turd strike>good
>>724450728Punk won almost every tournament he entered in 2017 and got 2nd in most of the rest. This is what it looks like when a game is deep enough that a top level player can distinguish himself. The closest SF6 ever had to something like this is 2024 Mena or Leshar, who can get a handful of wins with some top 8s in between.
>>724449874>or weirdly enough in SF6 just fucking neutral jumping.i knew this was a 1600 take from the start, but i finished until the end to make sure.>Generally strong offense which maximizes the snowball effect of one random hit, even a weak hitYea the game is offense orientated, but i think the point you're missing is the skill in resource management it takes to create those situations. Managing your drive gauge and having bar available for kills is a big part of what keeps the pros ahead of scrubs despite all this talk of randomness from cherry picked clips of people making mistakes.>Far less time spent in neutral, both due to slime rush and general knockdown/oki/offensive pressure design, with neutral being a generally less random section of the game that enables skill to show more clearly.There's a next level to your game - These things people in the thread are crying about are reactable and counterable, and you can play in a way where you control the neutral far more than you think. The game's defensive options are the best they've ever been in a street fighter (a clear design decision to make up for the games offensive focus) and learning the answers is how you can start playing the slow paced footsie orientated play you see the pros play when they face each other but can never experience yourself. Punishing people that play like this, as "random" as possible because lul sf6, is one of my specialties and gives me so much free mmr online. You don't have to play like that because other people do.
>>724451001"almost every" doing a lotta carrying here.
>>724450489>They literally deleted half of Sagat's fireballs.wow, i didnt believe you so i looked it up. actual casualized garbage lmao
>>724451001>>724451116>multiple non top 8 finisheswow
>>724451001>2017 sfvthe game at that point was a disaster, no one in the US wanted to play it and he just gambled better than everyone else at the time.
I think throw loops are funny even at high level plays>Surely he won't do it AGAIN
>>724451000you didn't mention any entries being better so my point is at least proven
>>724363907This3 out of 8 SF6 premiers this year were won by Leshar, a DBFZ and KOF player
https://youtu.be/oTAdRn1RfMACup 12 is pay to view too kek
>>724451248Ah yes the classic>touch of death old game: sovl heckin based epic>touch of death new game: le shitty le game terrible balance endless crying
>>724451302So? Punk is an Injustice player.
>>724451334>all newer fighting games are just fist of the north star reskinneddamn
>>724451116Name any other player in any other big fighting game with 11 wins and 15 top-2s in 20 consecutive tournaments. (and no, Sonicfox sweeping an entire season in some anime game with ten players doesn't count)
>>724451314>footage of that vxbao guy throw looping>cuts to vxbao getting throw loopedkinowhat a dogshit game
>>724367324>>724367617>>724367916Age has nothing to do with this.Seasoned fighter pilots who pull insane Gs and have the reaction time of a cat are are regularly flying and schooling the next generation so they can learn.Theres F1 drivers who have won in there 40s and late 30s. That one anon is right. For men, the wall hits HARD at 50. And 60. Seriously if you survive turning 50 and 60 you can expext to die gracefully in your 80s.For some reason its the 50-60 Age that claims the lives of men most suddenly or when sudden disease/chronic fatigue hits.
>>724382696So basically street fighter has always been shitty low skill trash that has drawn in all fat scrubs and because fat scrubs are so abundant, street fighter and brute forced its away to being the top of fight games.I fucking hate street fighter and the shit its done to other fighting games. Capcom is a nigger company. Always has been, always will be.
>>724451516Armada
>>724451516>>724451725Armada again.
>>724451053>i knew this was a 1600 take from the start, but i finished until the end to make sure.Did I say it was a good risk/reward?No, of course not, but it is a high reward option in a way it really wasn't in previous games. SF6 is full of far more options that a well timed neutral jump will catch, and if it does then you get far stronger combos than neutral jumps in previous games. This is why you do see random neutral jumps in SF6 even in tournaments, in a way you just didn't in previous games.>Yea the game is offense orientated, but i think the point you're missing is the skill in resource management it takes to create those situationsI'm not a retard claiming it's some literal baby game that takes no skill. Obviously there is still skill involved in offense, but universally stronger offense leads to stronger snowballs from small interactions. This makes the game more random, because there is ultimately high variance in every part of a fighting game. While the better player is more likely to land that hit and transition into good offense, it's never a guarantee with any players on even vaguely the same level.>These things people in the thread are crying about are reactable and counterable, and you can play in a way where you control the neutral far more than you think.I am aware of how neutral is played. I'm not saying there's no neutral, nor am I exclusively talking about the random gimmick options here. I'm saying that neutral is generally short and over quickly, and it's very rare to not get a meaningful knockdown from any hit. Good play in neutral for SF6 transitions into offence very reliably.Again, every fighting game is "random", but in better games that randomness is tempered by the law of averages giving consistent results to the players making better choices. The less choices to make, the less that occurs.>The game's defensive options are the best they've ever been in a street fighter Are they? Outside of PP and high access to reversals?
>>724451516>>724451725>>724451763Would you believe it?Armada again.
>>724451516You might have heard of this guy, think his name is uhhh Justin Wang or something?You know there were fighting games before SFV right?
>>724450083>SF6 is Street Fighter in its purest form.LMAO
>>724451053>>724451796And since I don't have room, I am primarily talking about the results of a particular set, which is important for tournaments in particular. Your MMR is obviously going to average to whatever your skill level is overtime, that's a simple fact of how Elo based systems work and is the case regardless of how random the game is. Or volatile I guess, if you're one of those people that gets hung up on people saying "randomness" colloquially for what is more appropriately "volatility".
>>724451516>>724451725>>724451763>>724451806Decided to save time and zoom out for this last bit.
>Jwong>Armada>PunkNames that will be remembered decades after everyone has long forgotten who the fuck Uma and Kakeru are.
>>724452021>decadesfighting games will not survive another decade
>>724452021OK zoomie
>>724359632people have been saying this shit for like 15 years
>>724392891please god yes
>>724451917SF2 as a series, Alpha as a series, and IV as a series are Street Fighter.The other games whether you like them or not are not. JWong saying street fighter has always been an anti legacy game is the bias of a young millennial east coast Marvel player.
>>724452314Yeah that's real cool and all but SF6 is still the least Street Fighter game to date.It doesn't look, sound or play like Street Fighter. Not even the fucking logo is Street Fighter.
>>724452314>street fighter is whatever I say it isk broRemind me again how many reaction checks and neutral skips there were in SF2?
>>724451796>Are they? Outside of PP and high access to reversals?The game straight up has a block button that lets you by-pass any strike mixup (or general strike pressure for that matter) someone throws at you....Neutral jump sucks in SF6 so you're on a totally different planet than me. Show me some high level players neutral jumping because I watch footage religiously and never see it. Street Fighter players are good at anti airing, and most players play neutral within the DR / Jump range that would make a neutral jump very obvious and punishable.>Good play in neutral for SF6 transitions into offence very reliably.There's a match flow the game revolves around with the drive meter - Yes, if you have the drive meter you should generate offense from your knockdowns and neutral advantages. But once you get strong enough and at a high enough skill level so that both players are answering each others offense correctly, the game because much more neutral orientated as drive gauge dwindles. You see it all the time in pro play, sometimes things can be slow and more neutral heavy, and sometimes the game is fast as fuck. That's another thing that makes the game great, access to so many options and strategies allows for much more player expression than in SFV. I've seen so much great neutral play with amazing wiff punishing and footsies that puts these cherry picked offense webms in the thread to shame.
>>724451917>do nothing>loseyea thats how street fighter works.
>>724452662Thirdies seem to like it as a counter to DI >>724393812, I've seen matches of Juninho using it routinely too. I assume their superior reaction time and their close proximity to the source of most of the world's cocaine is purely a coincidence.
>>724452880OK retard.
>>724452916ever been unblockable looped in sfiv or 3s?at least he can still play the game here and chose to do nothing
>>724451248Those graphics look so much fucking better than modern Street Fighter.
>>724452903Yea that's a totally different situation than "random neutral jumping" like you were implying.No one at a high level is neutral jumping to randomly to bait DI outside of being already burned out or a reaction for a punish. You will get Drive Rush -> anti aired at a distance, anti-aired if you try to neutral jump a throw on defense, and at the best you lose ground because you're stuck in the air for 40+ frames.
>>724452662>That's another thing that makes the game great, access to so many options and strategiesYou either neutral skip in or you fish for a whiff punish and get in that way and then you run your shit in the corner - because you're *always* in the corner. That's the full spectrum of "expression" in this game. Same shit every match just with different cutscenes.>>724452980Unblockables in 4 were so rare they didn't matter and in 3 were basically just part of a few characters' designs. This was back when characters were actually different you see...
>>724453389>This was back when characters were actually different you seeuhh you didn't follow these games back in the day did you? offense was insane in these games,everyone played the same top tiersleft right mixups were ambiguous as fuck especially in sfivTwo hits and you're stunned in ko....You see way more variety in sf6 than you ever did in sfiv or 3s>You either neutral skip in or you fish for a whiff punish and get in that way and then you run your shit in the corner - because you're *always* in the corner. That's the full spectrum of "expression" in this game. Same shit every match just with different cutscenes.clearly a personal skill issue from being stuck in low mmr. watch full matches instead of cherry picked clips from the end rounds. Players like Blaz, Xiao Hai, Leshar are playing a totally different game than their contemporaries on their characters. Leshar's Ed is a neutral wiff punishing monster.
>>724453684OK dixxer.
>>724453684>everyone either does random drive rush or fishes for whiff punishes>"to prove you wrong here are some players who are great at whiff punishing"k>offense was insane in these games,What's that got to do with expression? Strong offense can be a great form of expression if it's unique and not just strike/throw/shimmy ten times in a row.>You see way more variety in sf6 than you ever did in sfiv or 3sRyu and Ken in SF3 play more differently than Ryu and Zangief in SF6.
>>724364783im hard
