This game would have been better without the shitty combat
>>724370673Now you're gonna draw in the contrarian hipster retards who defend the bad combat squeaking and seething throughout the entire thread. Hope you feel like shit, OP
Not OP here but I'm about to do the sewer level. How much ammo do I need to stock up on?
>>724371040It's trivial for a guns build, Toreador is objectively the best, but yes bring ammo. Otherwise it can range from a minor annoyance to full save scumming madness.
>>724370673You could say that about a few other great RPGs. Planescape Torment is another shining example of that.But if you remove the fighting elements, you have a barebones movie game, and you don't want that unless you're a fag.No, removing combat doesn't solve anything. What would improve the game would be for it to have good combat. But it is what it is.
>>724370673Everything is better if you remove the shitty parts. What a pointless fucking statement.
i'm assuming by "bad combat" everyone means its too easy by the time you get downtown
>>724371247I honestly think Planescape has better combat. At least a better foundation of it. PST just needed better combat encounters that weren't so mindless. VTMB feels like shit all together. I agree there should be some gameplay or combat. I think it would have been better if they just removed the obnoxious shaky cam shit whenever you get hit.
>>724370673It's definitely not it's strength
>>724370673The fans of this game have absolutely zero idea of what they're talking about.>go guns only>melee sucksTurns out melee is a billion times superior to guns and the shitty trying to aim with the garbage screen damage shake nonsense. It's only in a hand full of places where guns are directly superior. VTMB are the dumbest retards on earth. I almost believe that VTMB is built around melee combat except for the few encounters
>>724370673>This game would have been better without the shitty combatthen you niggers would complain it isn't a game
>>724373063That's pretty mich every vidoe game fandom now
>>724370673That goddamn retarded pump switch sewer puzzle is one of the few times I said screw it and just nocliped my way through. I sewar the designers of this game were mega retards and I'm not wasting time of my life of shit that should have been scrapped so I cam reach the meat of the game
>>724371320by bad combat they usually mean they put no points into combat stats and just button mashed the entire time. almost every time someone complains about the combat being bad it's because they were doing something the game told them not to do.
sewer was the filter that killed builds that were purely focused on socialization skills. having access to any kind of combat or combat-oriented discipline and you were okay.guns just kept getting better the later on you went is all. they really sucked dick when you only had incredibly SHIT handgun like wtf HOW can a gun be THAT SHIT.
>>724374019You're an absolute over generalizing retard. Of course I focused on guns you moron. The game's combat is still dogshit. It's still shitty for having that garbage screen shake in first mode. What anon said>>724373063You people don't know what you're talking about. You claim guns is the best way despite guns being dogshit and melee feeling so much better even with little stat investment. Melee combat is the one place where button mashing works ironically. I swear fans of this games are absolute mouth breathers that haven't evem played it
>>724374347Yeah the 38 and that slow ass shotgun were dogshit. That glock was a huge improvement. Also melee combat is far more effective except for a few parts than guns in the game.
>>724370673I meant to play this sooner or later but I've always been put off by everyone saying the combat is terrible. Is there no overhaul mod to fix it?
>>724374452>screen shakeWhat do you mean? When you move or during combat?I'll admit that some guns are underpowered and not fun to use. But you get the shotgun early which is strong, and if you use it properly getting close to enemies it knocks them down and is pretty strong. The Colt Anaconda and super shotgun are both fun especially when set to full auto. The flamethrower, Lassiter Killmatic uzi, and sniper rifle are fun. I used guns my first time and didn't think they were bad except for the few that were clearly underpowered in vanilla. >Melee combat is the one place where button mashing works ironically.Only to an extent. If you button mash the same combo type over and over enemies start blocking more.
>>724374347>game has almost no interactable NPCs>"socialable builds"Who would be doing that anyway
>>724374838There are some balance issues more than the combat itself being inherently bad due to mechanics. I'm actually working on a balance patch right now and it's almost done.
What are some other games with comfy towns/quests like this? The newer Deus Ex sequels?
>>724375149EarthboundBloodlust Shadowhunter is alright. Kind of feels like an indie clone of VtMB. I didn't really like the newer DX games much, they were kinda boring.
>>724370673>This game would have been better if it wasn't badI guess so
>>724371040Get the magnum that is sold to you in the convenience store.As the guy mentioned below, Toreador and gun combo is quite possibly the most OP class/build in the game. Celerity and Presence turns everything into short work.
>>724370673the combat is absolutely abysmalso is the stealthbut they are dynamic enough to allow for lots of different role playing stylesand thats all that really matterssomething the fancy animation but 5 moves only style of combat design will never understand
>he doesn't like pressing m1 in a rhythm with any of the swords to become a vampiric slicer that stunlocks 90% of the enemies you just don't like games with SOVL
>>724376334>As the guy mentioned below>below
>play with guns>some are ass, some are really good>play with unarmed>it’s fine too
>>724370673mindless bashing is rarely good in vidyadementation and blood magic are fun to play, also the code of the silent killer
I remember when trolling was a art
