Did capcom kill MH?
>>724390680>June 21styes, back when World came out
Pretty much.We could have more games like P3rd, GU, 3U, and FU, but Crapcom is out of touch and creatively bankrupt.This is a result of narcissistic and incompetent leadership. A very common Japanese trait lately with video game companies. The golden age of JRPGs and such are over.
10 million sales, 100k players whenever content dropsyeah i'm sure Capcom is losing sleep over brown thirdies review bombing cause their 1060 can't run the game
>>724391246Do you feel smart when you call people poor?Surely you can make a better argument that doesn't fold in on itself as soon as you use it. The game's optimization is literally one of the worst since it came out. That's undeniable.The game's content is inferior even to Worlds, a very casualized entry into the series.The director had the balls to come out and say the story was good, when really it as dogshit and nobody liked it, which shouldn't even be the fucking point, because story in a monster hunter game should be like story in a porno. It's expected to be there, but it shouldn't be all that important.
>>724390680>lying nigger faggot writes an articleI people wonder why everyone hates vidya journos.
>>724391548>26% positive reviews on steam right now>LyingWilds was a huge miss by Crapcum.It sucks rotten dick.
Fuck jewcom and their garbageI stopped buying their games after dd2
>>724392048Lmao I never even bought DD2. I saw the reception to it and realized they rushed it out the game as well. Crapcum only cares about shareholder profit. Fucking worthless retards, I swear to god.
>>724391548yeah it actually has almost 3% of the launch playersthat's 3 times as much as he claimed, dirty lying jew
Wilds, an ONLINE GAME is a complete flop. 3% of players from launch while BG3 a much older game has higher 24h peak and way smaller player drop off.
>>724392275>having less players and sales is a good thing, actually What the fuck am I reading???
>>724392365it has more players though
>>724390680I would have actually liked the game if they went back to ACTUAL HUNTS and not infinite restocking.Wilds monsters can't use attrition to punish you until you clench your butthole and lock in. Nothing in World, Rise or Wilds even approaches how tense quests from previous games could be. They had a perfect niche and they fucked it up.
>>724392365Smartest /v/-tard CRAPCOM shill.
>>724390680Don't worry RE9 will be back to corridor stealth and usual resident evil gameplay, perfect for the engine to not perform like dogshit.Everyone will forget about Wilds and buy the next slop.
>>724392365BG3 had sold 15m copies in early 2024, after roughly 8 months.MHW has yet to officially reach 11m copies after 8 months despite selling over 10m copies in the first few weeks.
>>724391246If 99% of your players quit they probably are not buying your next $70 game because they know it won't be for them. Capcom should be rightly panicking and planning how to gain back good will.
>>724390680They still haven't improved the optimization on PC, meaning Capcom doesn't really care about the PC userbase
>>724391045Why did you skip 4?
>>724391707And half of those are from China who will review bomb for any reason becauae their 980 isn't able to run Wilds.With that said World could be ran at max settings on a 1080ti.
>>724393212Something somethig ledge, something something glaive and charge blade.
I boughted Wilds on release but have not touched itWaiting for the December Update with the performance optimizations
>>724393231Get the fuck outta here you dumb faggot. At least get Nvidia to pay you for your retarded arguments.
>>724393393>faggot chimps out and gives no rebuttalClassic nigger behaviour so good job.
>>724391707PC fags once again thinking the world revolves around them. I got it on the PS5 and it works fine, these retards are just seething that their $2000 computer still can't run the game properly and they realized they chose the wrong platform.
>>724393486>>724393480>Bad optimization is the consumer's fault
>>724393367you are the reason games continue to be shityou will buy any garbage at full price as long as it's part of THE BRAND
>>724393532Yes, buying something that asks for higher specs that your shitty computer and complaing because it doesn't perform properly because you can't read IS the consumer's fault you shitstain.As I said, World can actually run on toaster specs.
>>724393231chinks barely account for 20% of total reviews and japs hated it too
the portable entry on switch 2 will save the seriesan ironic but predictable turn of even after /v/trannies spend the past few years seething and coping about rise because it was developed for a nintendo system
I got wilds for free but haven't played it yet. I think I am going to play rise first
>>724393335Pretty dumb reasons to avoid the actual best two games in the series.
>>724393712Wilds is dogshit, mate. No matter who you blame or what you pull out your ass, it is a shit game. Others have already spelled it out for you, but you want to sit here and blame people who have perfectly fine set ups for one of the fucking worst optimizations we've seen in a long time for Capcom's fuck up.You don't even have a real argument. You don't have the balls to admit something everyone already acknowledges.
Why did it fail? Aren't all the same game? I don't see FIFA 2024 players complaining about FIFA 2025
posted it again award
>>724393746Pretty sure they are the majority of the negatives with how that looks.With that said I never did look into Japan's hatred for it, just China because this happens a lot with them usually with any game that slights them.
>>7243938144 is definitely not even top 10 MH games.You have to be a diaper wearing tendie to think so.
>>724393072Capcom fans are pure retarded NPC faggots. They will always buy new product. That's the real issue. This world is full of people with zero standards. Literally cattle
>>724393891Anon not once have I said Wilds is a good game, I was only mentioning the main reason it's being hit with negatives on steam.
>>724394001This.Casualization and Bureaucracy are cancers upon the world. Unironically. Dumbing things down for retards never ends well. It just encourages more retards to flood over.
Monster Hunter flopping and going on ice would be the best thing that could ever happen for Capcom, reminder that when Street Fighter 3 flopped and the franchise was on ice for 11 years Capcom made->Resident Evil>Devil May Cry>Onimusha>Marvel vs Capcom>Okami>God Hand>Viewtiful Joe>Ace Attorney>Dead Rising>Rival Schools>Sengoku BasaraOh, and MONSTER HUNTER, Capcom losing their golden goose IP indirectly led to them creating MONSTER HUNTER IN THE FIRST PLACE. Capcom has gotten lazy because they just rely on Resident Evil and Monster Hunter now. If you want Capcom to improve, stop buying RE and MH.
>>724394064If you're not going to read people's posts why bother posting? Shut the fuck up and go back to sucking your thumb.
>>7243939834U has a great high rank and G rank, level 140 expeditions are perfect endgame. I don't wear diapers and I'm 34 years old.
>>724393972chinks hate all gameseven on games with very high scores, you will still see the chinese score be noticeably lower than that of other languages, even if it's just the difference between 'overwhelmingly' and 'very'
>>724394260The fuck is wrong with you, you shitflinging cocksucker?Do you like arguing for the sake of arguing when people start to agree with you?Actually kill yourself nigger.
>>724393892Because a specific fanbase can't play this gameThey did the same with world, while doing a 180 when rise did way worse things to the franchise(because rise was exclusive at the start)
>>724393486But therein lies your fallacy. You think it's all one problem: performance. You, as well as all of these other faggots in this thread, who think there just ONE glaring flaw in the game are as delusional as much as you are forehead deep in the Dunning-Kruger effect.Dumb as fucking all hell, the lot of you.
>>724393787pls no I don't want to buy a shitch2I had the displeasure of having to play rise at sub30fps 540p for months until it came out on pc
>>724393072>not buying your next gameWhen that happened? Examles.Most gamers have mind of goldfish.
>>724390680Considering how much this game was shilled this is a good thing. This game got such a level of marketing that you just don't see from most game. Capcom was heavily banking on its success. This sends yet another message to companies that they better put out actually good games.
>>724394237You know full well boycotts won't work
>>724394501The game is just shit. Pretending tendies are somewhat the biggest reason the game is getting shat on is retarded.
>>724394770Normalfags becoming disinterested after getting fucked over one too many time is a thing though.
>>724393231>World could be ran at max settings on a 1080ti.More than that. Turning off the fog and changing some settings to medium could run the game at 120+ @ 1440pGoing from high to low settings in wilds doesn't do shit, only render resolution does.Not even a 5090 can render the game at a steady 60 @ 4k
>>724394237Capcom is a modern company driven by shareholder profit as their primary incentive.You're not going to boycott a company that knows if they sell something, retards will buy it.Look at this thread alone, look at how many dumb faggots there are who defend this failure like they're getting paid for it.We're not in the same timeline anymore that you think we are.People are actual retards. Cohesion is no longer a thing. It has been dismantled to allow for inferior products to reach higher margins despite inferior quality.Anon, we're headed towards the fall, we're no longer rising.
>>724394839Yeah but they infested the MH franchise once World came out so it would take them fucking up the expansion, stories and the next game I think.
>>724393746What the fuck is wrong with the Germans, Italians and French?
>>724395087Low standards, probably because a lot of them never played mh before. It's not really popular in europe.
>>724390680Game is perfectly fine. But they pushed the narrative restrictions a little too much during the central campaign and kept the live service shit and downloadable content train going from World's content support and nobody wants to go through that garbage again, paying through the nose for either event stuff they missed out on at the time or meaningless cosmetic side items for disgusting prices.They deserved to get kicked in the pants for this one. AND Rise as well, they're getting way too arrogant with the IP these days to bail them out of not putting any effort for the consumer into these titles.
The game is very successful! It sold 10 million units in its release week!Please keep buying capcom stocks. Your investment is safe with us.
>>724395186 no.
>>724390680No but the recent title update is an abhorrent fucking jokeFuck final fantasy and fuck final fantasy MMO mechanics
>>724395184>Game is perfectly fine.It's "perfectly fine" in the way most AAA games are.aka its boring as shit
>>724395186Eat shit Tsujimoto.
>>724395246If you think Milds is in the shitter, you should see what's happening to FFXIV.It's fucking JOEVER.Jap companies are tanking HARD.Nobody is happy with these dumb bastards.
>>72439478090% of the bad things from wilds come from rise>but muh focusjust don't use it bro, or that's only ok to say when it's about spirit birds?>>724395182as always, americans love to talk about shit they don't know
>>724395184World made them so much money that all the bad practices from there went to Rise and Wilds, especially the DLC. I think the whole thing for Wilds so far is well over £300, fucking absurd.
>>724395332What did Wilds take from Rise that wasn't taken from World?
>>724393231>chinks are the thinking ones while you're the bugsAbsolute state of monhuntards.
>>724395332I'm a frog you dumb faggot. MH is still niche in europe despite the success of world and was basically close to nonexistent before that, despite the memes about "je suis monté".
>>724390680Maybe now Japanese companies will realize game journalists don't reflect the average person's opinion. Probably not though.
>>724390680I'm honestly surprised how much the RNG talisman system seems to have helped retain their player numbers. I definitely can't be bothered grinding Wilds for hundreds of hours to maybe get something that's a marginal upgrade, rather play any other MH.
>>724395810Capcom doesn't listen to journalists, it just has its own special brand of retardation. Remember the time they outsourced devil may cry because they thought the games weren't western enough?
>>724390680Damn. I didn't buy it myself because it looked like slop, but I didn't think it'd be that historic a falloff.
>>724396134That was journo motivated too.
>>724391246>players whenever content dropsSo uh you mean bots when they are trying and failing to push a patch
>>724393231The only mother fuckers playing this shit are Chinese and Indian, that time zone is the only time wilds isn’t losing player count to shit like fallout 4
>>724394770>You know full well boycotts won't workIt is weird how many times games keep flopping though. I keep expecting games to do well, not bothering to get them cause they look shit to me, and then finding out they flopped. Like veilguard and star wars.
>>724393712You are a special kind of stupid idiot.
>>724390680Performance aside, I still laugh remembering fanboys screeching at me that the brownoid WON'T be central to the story.No one wants this Capcom, stop listening to your leftist infiltrators.
>>724395505The fact that you always see monster on the map was from riseOne of the biggest fuck up capcom ever made, since in turns made wilds a "just let the bird autorun to the objective bro"
>>724396620You kidding?I'm shocked they didn't add a microtransaction to unlock that feature.Capcom WOULD try to pull that kind of shit.
>>724396467Anon these people had two betas to see if this game would run fine or not, if that didn't convince them to not buy then they are morons for buying it anyway you retard.
>>724392752It's the equivalent of taking the estus system from Dark Souls and replacing it with Demon's Souls infinite healing grass. Managing your resources gave structure and meaning to not only the hunt, but the gathering phase of gameplay as well. Without it the hunt is trivial and gathering is just an inconvenience you're occasionally reminded of, not a critical supply line that your hunts depend on more and more. Both halves of the experience fall apart and you're left with a mainline "Monster Fighter" game where the fights aren't even challenging to begin with.
>>724396445It's simple, journalism died with GG and streamers and youtubers took over. Where Joe would once find validation for his FOTM purchase only to flip it two days later and continue the cycle of disappointment, only to be reassured by hired marketers that his urge to find Bioware games gay and lame made him a potential nazi, he now sees, broadly speaking, normal people also disgusted by Bioware games being gay and lame. Without anyone to keep the narrative going, even brainless people get more honest.
>>724396620They got the idea from the research center of MHW. Sniffing enough monster poo and feet mark would fill up bars that would permanently mark the monsters once high enough.
>>724396829To be fair capcom did say quite loudly they would fix the perf for launch throwing excuses like the beta was an old build and whatnot.
>>724396195That's good though, I didn't buy it for the same reason and I've bought every MH since FU. One of the few times voting with our wallets may actually work.
>>724396829>It's just a beta!>It's an old build!>We'll fix this before release!>game releases, it's the same build and they haven't fixed anything>You should've known they wouldn't fix anything!
>>724396620Didn't you get that from World once you hit max rank on a monster though?With that I get it, but all it really did it cut down on psychoserum or needing to wave at balloons or just memorizing monster spawn locations like in the games before World.I do miss some of those.
>>724396445>veilguardI want to point out veilguard was beating wilds on ps5 like two weeks after wilds launch
They killed my beloved Dragon's Dogma for this piece of shit. Capcom's dead to me, and best of luck for RE-bros Inhipe that one isn't rushed to hell and back like all their other games
>>724397119I'm trying to remember but wasn't veilguard free for PS5 at some poimt?
>>724390680Still 100 times better than risetrash
>>724397119Wasn't it also given away on PSN very early?
>>724397148DD sucks retard, it was always shitty MH if anything MH has beef with DD2 for the lingering stink which effected wilds
>>724397181Yeah, so? Wilds was less than a month old.
>>724397235didn't ask
>>724397203Prior to your epic fomo update it was like 200 players away from rise retard, it was also getting sub 5k every single day
>>724396985True but this was also coming right after DD2 so people should have had some kind of skepticism.
The Resident Evil 6 of monster hunter.
>>724397235that only proves the cracks they are making monster hunter story 3 and that will probably do well.
>>724397148>best of luck for RE-brosIsn't Requiem releasing right before the end of the fiscal year just like DD2 and Wilds? It's going to be a similar performance disasterIn a better world this would leave Capcom without RE and MH leaving them to rot and die, but you know people don't care and will preorder the next one anyway
>>724397383Unironically I think it’s worse, re6 they could pump and dump they are tied to this shit due to their GAAS philosophy
>>724397361Why are you lying?
>>724397467Friend you forgot they tried to make 6 a early live service with some dogshit knock off of left 4 dead 2's versus mode and it flatlined bigly.
>>724397367>so people should have had some kind of skepticism.We are talking mostly normalfags here. They are never going to be the most reactive or informed people out there. Hell, I bet a good number of them either never heard of DD or didn't know both games were made by capcom.
>>724397509>lalalalalala it’s not happeningAlso this is a teachable moment look at the filename, always a trash post
>>724397509Why are you bringing this bullshit into a Wilds thread?
>>724392752The Stygian Zinogre/Brachydios quest in 4U was unbelievably stressfulLiterally finished it with 1 minute on the clock
>>724397707Because it's the same schizo who brings it up every single thread
>>724394237Okay but you're not taking into account the Sweet Baby Inc. shit that Japanese devs like Capcom have been taking money from.
>>724397753It seems like some newfag shartyfag adjacent trying to drum up some console war narrative utterly clueless that everyone hates wilds so his strat kinda flops
At least they understood that nobody cares about the stupid kid they made the center of Wilds' plot? Note that an important character getting "apathy" from the audience is much worse than outright hatred.
>>724397925I want to fuck the handler
>>724397985What that has to do with my post?
>>724397925I mean I don't think they do if that one report that was talkimg about how important the story us was anything to go by.If they do this again (and they will) at least make the character as likable as the 4U/Sunbreak cast
>>724392752>infinite restockingI have some friends who started with world that defended thisnow that it's lead down the path it has I bet they feel fucking stupid
>>724398032>Note that an important character getting "apathy" from the audience is much worse than outright hatred.I concur -> the handler was prominent in world and hated -> I remember she has a fat ass -> I want to fuck the handler
>>724398121You fucking retard.
>>724398090Complaining about infinite restocking exposes yourself as a non-player
>>724398074If you mean the infamous producer saying that "wilds succeeded because the plot" post, that was before the results of the first quarter came out and showed Wilds sales crashing down a fucking 95% compared to the first week sales.
>>724390680Uhhh didn't they sell like 8 million copies? They already won.
>>724398289They could easily interpret that as people dropping the game because they finished the story and didn't have any more story to play through. Then the solution becomes to add a longer story with more cutscenes to the expansion/next game
>>724392752Ok so you know how to fix it?Remember the quests older monster hunter that basically remove the camp and had 0 supplies? Just make some quests like that so you can't resupply.It still fucks over gunners mind you, not bows though, just hbg and lbg.They used to do this in harder quests like the EX deviants and shit in GU.
>>724397432>Isn't Requiem releasing right before the end of the fiscal year just like DD2 and Wilds?yeah, which is why they should be worried about it. Forget about gamers and fans, Capcom is by the suits and for the shareholders, that's all that matters to them
>>72439831610 but hasn't sold even 1 million in the 8 months since launch which spells trouble for capcom's financial strategy as they hoped the continued game sale would carry them for the next few years.
>>724392752Restocking does not affect anything in practice, anyone who would run out of items like that will triple cart first lmao
they just said "lol what are the poor pc gaymers with 5yo PCs gonna do? leave a bad review" after not optimizing the damn gamenow they are finding out
>>724392752MH has always been about getting better and faster at hunts you dumb secondary. just downing a monster means nothing. MH Wilds is an absolute blast btw.
Every MH I've seen looks like complete shit. I wish it had remained "that esoteric game elevens mention in eroge sometimes and I'm not going to emulate."
>>724398462I dunno, seems to me like capcom is doing what they did for world, where they monetize the fuck out of it with DLCs.
>>724398467Not really. If you play carefully, you can absolutely restock multiple times without carting. Hell, when you know a monster is heading for its rest spot, you can fast port to restock and porting back to the nearest camp to where the monster is moving without losing any time in the hunt.
>>724398723you can teleport to grab some potions? the absolute state of the guild...
>>724391045>GUgod no, thats not MH in the slightest.>P3rdbaby mode game>3U and FUfinally some taste.
>>724393486you realise the PS5 runs it badly too, right?>30FPS with drops on PC-medium settings>60FPS with drops, with framegen on, with PC-low settingsthats what the PS5 is doing.
>>724399038>GU>god nogod yesbest in the series
>>724392752if you need restocks, at all, you are a shitter. period.Thanks for letting us know.
>>724391246>yeah i'm sure Capcom is losing sleepyes they are
>>724399164Fuck off, you frontier reject.
>>724391045>3Uflanderized version of Tri>GUfucking retard4U is better than all of these put together though and you didn't even mention it
>>724398559>MH has always been about getting better and faster at hunts you dumb secondaryright?every single "muh restocks" faggot outs themselves instantlyno one good at the game needs restockseven if you do, a hunt lasting longer than 15 minutes means you failed hard and need to git gud, no exceptions.
>>724399164>secondaries want to talk about the seriesGU is the newfag game just like rice wasits not MH, and never was. Worst game of its time by far.
It's over
World and Wilds are proof that Ichinose and Suzuki are the only people who know how to make MH now.
>>724399223>>724399276>>724399338>no argumentsyawnGU is kingcontent up the ass, no story, all the cool monsters plus some new additions and if you don't like the styles you just ignore them
>>724399283A bigger deal than restocking is actually combining easily via the wheel mid fight. It also doesn’t REALLY matter in practice but it did lead to some really easy and corny gameplay like the sticky spam in world
>>724399453Anon I don't think reddit, the place full of people who couldn't do anything but the exact same crying and long as fuck posts for both Alatreon and Fatalis should count for anything.
>>724399470>content up the ass, 90% of it is garbage, shit mons from the Gen1/2 era. >all the cool monsters and ALL of the bad ones>plus some new additionsthat all become irrelevant shitmons, and they dont have a place as theres so much bloat 80% of the gear is useless>and if you don't like the styles you just ignore them>yeah its broken easy with adept and brave, but, its optional, just ignore them!PIC RELyou have no right to bitch about wounds, slams, risemounts, clutchclaw, or whatever else
>>724399589>Anon I don't think reddit, the place full of people who couldn't do anything butfollow guides.
>>724399470I like GU but it suffers greatly in the content department. Actual variety in monsters is highly timegated behind title completion of the current rank you’re in. In reality you fight the same 10 monsters for the first 70 hours or so. You literally do >fated four and magala>fated four double hunt next rank 3 separate times >but that’s just the key questsThe problem is what’s stated above is that true variety isn’t just locked behind individual rank completion, you’ll need to actually beat the final urgent in each hub to unlock the real roster. And even then a lot of it is one off boss bloat. Hypes are also a snoozefest
I just find its environments and character designs (for the most part) incredibly unappealingBeing a mediocre MH is just the cherry on top
>>724399735>I love Monster Hunter!>all those monsters? yeah they all suck ass
>>724399794kek. nailed it.
>>7243997350/10 shitpostThe problem with GU is the gen 4 shitmons not the gen 1 ones you never fight
>>724399794this post best post>>724400038>I love Monster Hunter!>so that means I must consoom and fellate every game!I do love MH, thats why I dont like GU because its bad.
>>724400073>The problem with GU is not the gen 1 ones you never fight>that you never fightand you dont think thats a direct sign of bloat?
>>724400038Yeah, go on and tell us all about how cephadrome is actually a really great monster to fight.
>>724398462so uhhh outselling multiple flops combinded means nothing? Are you stupid? Wilds sold 100x more than ghosts of yoflop in a week.
>>724400038>consoom slop goyem! only real fans can gorge on such succulent slop!
>>724398723Yes you can restock and it doesn’t really matter because nobody is exhausting their supplies in a hunt unless they suck ass, that’s why it doesn’t affect anything
>>724400182You fight cephadrome one time
>>724400190Except we are comparing wilds to other mh games here.
>>724399453>everybody when finish wilds story>THE GAME IS TOO EASY>later capchad adds harder content>NONONONOOOOOOOO NOT HARD LIKE THAT
>>724400213bingo. It never mattered in the slightest, it only helps you if you depart of a quest and>forgot cool drink
>>724393231SAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>72439979410/10this summerises reddit, twitter, and /v/ all in one go.
>/v/ is dishonest about MHmany such cases
>>724390680I enjoy Wilds, done pretty much everything and now just casually play for titles and when new things come out, or to just get better at harder monsters. I’ve managed to get pretty good with LS, SnS, HH, and even playing around with LBG.I did mod in the best talismans though, the grind is absolutely stupid and the chances are so low for you to get what you need. Artian grind was tough but not impossible to get decent/best rolls. talisman grind is fake rng content behind monsters with hilariously bloated HP. Gore isn’t worth fighting.
>>724400353I literally never seen anyone ever get attritioned at this point, you always triple cart before that point. Arguably only thing it impacts truly are solo gunners.
>>724400946It’s because it’s effectively impossible. If you get hit a lot you’re probably just going to die. Like in order for someone to actually run out of healing what are they running stun resist or some shit
>>724397023>That's good thoughIt is, I just didn't expect it, is all. I have no faith in normalfags anymore, so seeing the utter destruction usually leaves me surprised.
>>724390680It would be nice if Capcom learned from thislolLMAO
>>724399453Are there actually hard fights now?AT Rey Dau was the last thing I fought.
>>724400946>Arguably only thing it impacts truly are solo gunners.and im therefore in favour of restocks.running out of ammo and being stuck on N1 is ass, and may as well be a restart. Good players could down most mons in good time with the base ammo + combines anyway, but for elders, the odd HP bloated monster or hub quests solo gunning was horrid in the old games and mathematically even rank-appropriate gear and good play meant running out of ammo.wilds does give infini-spead and pierce, and they raped the gun into being forced into one level of shot, so its not really needed now, but then the point remains that it really isnt harming anything to restockif you need to restock, you waste time of the hunt, and suck ass. and if you suck ass, you will be carting often anyway.... and then you can use defence +5~7 and divine blessing 3 and tank it all
>>724401202nice bro. now lets see your best AT rey dau time.
>>724401202yeah, hence the seethe being posted every update.go to the archive and look up omega threads.its aaaaaalll difficulty seethe
>>724401074You guys only focus on restocking healing when you can go for traps, bombs, ammo and other shit that would make the fight shorter unless you are already overpowering the monster so hard it's basically an immobile punching bag.
>>724401202Kind of a mess honestly, AT Udra is randomly the only 9 star AT right now, and the 8 star ATs are stronger than the 9 star regular tempered versions.
>>724401368>can go for traps, bombs, ammo and other shit that would make the fight shorterkek, you are either a shitter who stopped in LR or are a secondary.bombs dont scale well, no way its going to give you less hunt times in end game fetching them, speed trannies dont even use bombs at all, let alone restock them because they do more damage with their weapon in the time it takes to throw one.Traps at base barely last long enough to matter, its like 5~8 seconds tops, further traps lock em in for like 3~5 seconds... restocking takes much longer than that.You do not play the game.
>>724401557>Kind of a mess honestly, AT Udra is randomly the only 9 star AT right nowbecause nudra and jin are harder than tuna and rey? duh. They were always higher stars>and the 8 star ATs are stronger than the 9 star regular tempered versions.yes, AT means ARCH tempered, of course theyre better than regular tempered.... duh?Arch T mons have new moves, even.
>>724401368The only time you ever restock for a trap is if you failed to capture at the very end of a quest. No one actually does it for time purposes. This is a good change by the way it makes it so your capture quest load out doesn’t basically require the combo items for a trap
>>724400861>after maxing out gear and already having learned all the monsters movesets melee felt easy
>>724399164no, it's proto-rise
>>724401202Lagi/Steve were both pretty noticeably harder monsters when they first came out , only 8 Star Gore (who was purposefully made to push people’s shit in) was harder.Since then they added the 9 Star Hunts, and basically everything that can spawn as a 9 star is on par with most G-Rank monsters. Now TU3 added Omega, and Savage Omega (hard mode) in particular is one of the hardest fights I’ve ever seen in a MH game.
>>724399453>Omega filtering retards on other games tooLmfao
>>724402408A prototype for the best nu-MH is a bad thing?
>>724402836It even led to another round of “what the fuck does Larboard mean?!”
>freeform game is lobotomized for a forced main story behind which 95% of the content is gated>the main story is complete dogshit>most of it is unskippable
>>724392048I stopped buying their dogshit when Ultra Dynamic Super Rootkit Fighter 5: HD Turbo Remix installed a rootkit instead of making fight money getting easier (instead they decided to go back to the old "pay for our DLC characters, bitch!" method).
>>724393486>I got it on the PS5 and it works fine,No it doesn't, you lying faggot. Wilds performs like shit on ALL platforms. Just because you're willing to eat shit on your $700 Fischer Price PC doesn't make it any better.
>>724400861>chicken out and healYou didn't beat the game
>>724390680whats the best weapon right now
>>724401252Just pick up some plants and auto craft more ammo
>>724403649Probably LS, DB or Gunlance honestly
>>724391707Works on my machine.
>>724402836>>724403035I didnt bother with the update, does it do pantokrator?
>>724404128Oh dear god does he ever. The only way to knock him out of it is to create/pop wounds on his legs as well.
what's the issue with wilds?Beyond optimisation?
>>724404364Also in phase 3 he does Delta Attack, which is still a pretty brutal DPS check to survive. He spawns a clone of a Nercylla and you have to kill it within about 2 minutes to generate the shield.
>>724404364So you pretty much just need a DB guy since standing still for a picosecond results in getting your eyebrows singed off
>>724403154Shame Tokuda can't be bothered to ever just bring back the village/guild split.
>>724404657You need someone to hold enmity so he'll stand still and only target one guy
>>724393486are you that same retard that goes in every thread defending wilds running and looking like shit?
>>724390680Still sold more than Rise and Sunbreak combined.Shitendo fans in shambles.
>>724404562He has an aggro mechanic where he focuses on anyone that does enough damage to his head/face. So having a tank (someone with a shield weapon preferably, like Lance/SnS etc) makes him stay a lot more still.
>>724397235>lingering stinkThey used DD2 as a testing ground for Wilds and didn't even take away anything from it. They deserve getting shit on for handling MH like absolute retards, especially with them somehow making hunting monsters boring with how much of a babywalk the entire game is.
>>724400348>can we get good monsters capcom?>no? only dogshit SEslop? got it, not playing the game anymoreit's that simple
>>724405291See the problem is Omega is genuinely one of the best fights in any MH game
>>724405376you're entitled to that opinion be don't ask me to take it seriously
>>724405291This
>>724404398The post-launch content drip feed is the slowest it's ever been. You'd think with the record numbers on the demo they'd go into overdrive making sure they retain the playerbase but they couldn't be assed. And when it finally dawned on them they killed their golden goose, they decided to move up some talisman RNG grinding mechanic up like half a month earlier. That was their genuine direct response to the falling player numbers. And even now, it still likes barren as fuck until they get around to doing the expansion. The casualization, weird multiplayer systems, the open world not really panning out, intrusive story... all of that just pales in comparison to their mindboggling decision to ignore the fact that they had a hit.
>>724394770Dragon's Dogma 2 stopped selling after the first month of release due to bad word of mouth abd this is a major franchise according to Capcom.Kunitsu gami couldn't even break 500k copies, same with Exoprimal.Wilds isn't on the path to reach World's numbers, etc...
>>724390680You bitches are unloyal. I stayed true to World and my Partner.
>>724392752I don't think the issue is restocks. I always felt that the issue is that monsters just feel piss-easy in Wilds compared to previous titles. It's not even just from the perspective of a veteran, I feel like tempered monsters should've been the base, and even then they're still piss easy when you factor in shit like a majority of weapons having a parry now, or how easy it is to just stunlock via wound breaks.
>>724397709I also almost ran out of time during double Black Gravios as a physical only tard and Gog. Good times.
>>724404398Genuinely? Everything.
>>724405673NTA but they felt piss easy in world and rise as well exactly because your inventory was effectively infinite
>>724390680Performance was dogshit unless you apply AI where the game looks like it has vaseline smeered all over everything and a story that is overly present. Visually, the its the equivelent of a Michael Bay Transformers movie.I miss when games where readable, just because you can add clutter and 500 different effects it doesnt mean you should. Take me back to when games where clearly readable.
>>724399453Why are reddit niggers complaining about savage omega, the point of the fight is to be extremely hard and unfair, they can easily do the normal version and get carried by npcs, that's what i did.
>>724406145Because the appeal of wilds isn’t in the gameplay the entire game was designed ground up for retard gamer dads to zone out while gooning. It’s like Diablo they just want to grind rng loot
>>724399283I always played ild mh games solo. I used to restock, to finish quests 1 minute before the time ran out, sometimes after carting twice.Oh and my main weapon was a long sword :)
Maps are so horrible that it would take the effort of making a new game to fixProgression is awful which is half the fun of a MH game, so I don't care if they add 1 billion star ULTRA TEMPERED monsters I wanted the buildupEasy as fuck with restocking and wirefall still in the gameIncredibly ugly gamei will play when the expansion releases
>>724398385No, please no!
>>724399276>flanderized version of triThay's p3rd, not 3u though the nerf to barroth does suck
>>724405204Lol, Wilds hasn't even outside base Rise, let alone Rise and Sunbreak combined. >Wilds - 10.5 million as of last Capcom update>Rise - 17.5 million>Sunbreak - 10.2 million>Risebreak total - 27.7 million
>>724405209>use Para HH for the 3rd phase>90% gets the aggro without failWhy are these randumbs so dumbs
>>724409105Omega is hilarious because he forces evolution into the multiplayer>the good players give up on doing it with others because you can do it with support hunters solo>the players left online are the ones that can’t do it with support hunters
>>724409250Yeah, normal Omega with Supports solo is pretty fun even if the Nerscylla on crack will never not stop pissing me off. Funny enough, I just did a duo with an LS user with cats. We only carted once, that was pretty cool.Does Savage and normal have different drop rate for the Nodules though I wonder.
>>724403450And remember the motherfucking kikes did it without warning and then backpedaled when backlash happenedFUCKCRAPCOM
Brapcom has good staff but they are a huge slave to shareholders. They should refrain from making any really big games since the time shareholders are comfortable giving for a game doesn't align with how much they need. Resident Evil games is as big as they should go.
>>724390680Capcom just started a new enshitification arc, we will have to wait 10 years for good stuff to come back.
>>724409250>the players left online are the ones that can’t do it with support huntersOr players that want to help others get their clearsAnd I've found my success rate with randoms has only gone up. It took me dozens of attempts to get clear Savage with randoms the first time but over the course of the festival I got 3 more clears almost back to back
>>724390680Capcom would rather release more paid DLC rather than save their shitty game by fixing it. They can rot in hell for all i care
Are we ever gonna move past open world slop that kills graphics, art style, gameplay, development and performance for next to no positives?Or is the industry doomed to stay in this hole?
>World/Wilds shitters have to turn on GU and chimp the fuck out at it because it's one of the old style games with an active populationLolLmaoYou will never be a real monster hunter fan
>>724410717I’ve done 24 clears, of which 10 were savage. At this point I have everything. I’ll only run it again if at least 2 of the 3 people have clears on it. I’m not gonna bother wasting time with 15+ minute runs when idiots are carting in phase 1-2 and killing the Morbols. Too many people don’t spend enough time avoiding damage. The “support”Is there for, ideally, supplying buffs, but still mostly attacking. If you aren’t doing 60 dps or more don’t expect people to just throw out lifedusts because you can’t avoid telegraphed fire.9* gore is a more annoying fight if you don’t include nercylla check
>>724410905So when people say this, what exactly dothey want fixed? Performance fix is happening in TU4, it will be a bandaid, but otherwise I doubt any real change will happen. The game is unoptimized for PC, and capcom doesn’t care about PC. Worlds performance was a fluke. If you don’t have a good PC you can’t run the game well
>>724390680>June
>>724412997yes it already lost 99% of its players by junegrim
>>724390680so what exactly happened to monster hunter? i played the previous one on ps4 and didnt really liked it but i know it was a huge success.how did they fumble this and dragon's dogma 2?
>>724393072>If 99% of your players quit they probably are not buying your next $70 gameHahahahahahahaimagine gamers having standards, conviction, or self controllolling, lmaoing even
I miss Monster Hunter
People wanted World 2 and Capcom gave us Resident Evil 6 of Monster Hunter.If the next one isn't a complete slam dunk and return to the form they might actually kill the franchise on home consoles.
>>724413204But MW2 was a good game and delivered what gamers wanted, people just wanted dedicated servers. It was a minor annoyance.Wilds is just shit.
>>724395087>Game features muzzies that interfere whenever you want to accomplish somethingReminds them of home
>>724413183Turns out that releasing blatantly unfinished games that focus on the lowest iq normies makes for poor gameplay
THANK YOU HORROR ENGINE
>>724390680too greedytoo lazyThey don't even understand why World was so popular and changed their niche game into a AAA hit series.
>>724393231megacope
>>724413907The dumb fucks really thought it was the story in World that made it a success. Capcom deserves its death.
>>724403649Depends on the monster. >Elemental LBG, Insect Glaive and DBs are usually on the top for a lot of speedruns. >Great Sword, Longsword, Sword and Shield, Hunting Horn, Gunlance, Switch Axe, Charge Blade, and Bow are all sort of interchangeable with their places swapping around depending on what monster/what weak zones/what elemental values, etc. >Lance, Heavy Bowgun and Hammer are usually in the very back.
>>724413075Nta but the game had a pretty big resurgence after Omega
>>724393746wait... are chinamen actually based?
I was a potential buyer for this game until I played the beta. It's actually unbelievable how fucking ugly AND terribly running the game was. It was like a poster child for everything wrong with current game dev. Getting like choppy 37fps with my screen covered in 10 flavours of AI vaseline blurry dogshit
>>724414259Complete decay of the Capcom dev team, once famous for its incredible programming and optimization prowess.
>>724414492You mean the same team that released World which ran terribly on release? And then git performance broken again when Iceborne released?
>>724414259fucking tell me about iteven on max settings with 120fps it STILL looks like soup
>>724414762World ran great day 1 on my GTX 970 PC. All I had to do was turn off that Volumetric Rendering or whatever option.
>>724404398I honestly don't even know if Master Rank can save this game. Fundamentally, it's just weird. >Story doubles down on even more cutscenes/walkie-talkie sections than World did (something most people complained about yet Capcom thought they wanted more I guess)>Story also adds a bunch of ugly and unlikable characters, with your own main character taking the backseat for some little annoying kid to be center stage>Regions are supposed to be "open world" yet feel more restricted than maps from Rise, which felt far more "open." Everything has an invisible wall, forcing you to go down linear hallways in between the open spaces>Low Rank is probably the easiest the series has ever been, which is honestly whatever>High Rank actually opens up and allows for the game to be fun but the HR monsters still felt relatively easy>Monsters on paper are pretty powerful, but because of massive skill bloat (your HR hunter has as many skills as you would with MR gear) and Focus mode (allowing you to have 100% DPS time) it's easy to steamroll the base roster>Capcom decides to compensate by instead adding 8* and 9* Tempered Monsters, some of which have far more health than Master Rank monsters in both Iceborne and Sunbreak. But because your hunter can have so many skills now, you can still beat them comfortably in under 17 minutes (even as a new player). >Seikret HAS to come with you, can't leave it at camp. Maps (the worst in the series) are designed around the bird taxi and require it to traverse to certain areas. >Even little shit like Endemic Life feels undercooked because you don't do anything with them, where as in World you could display them in your house as pets. You don't even get a house, you get "customizable" pop up tents that you'll never actually use unless you're fast traveling. Even with a lot of those slights, I still think the game is pretty fun. But like I said it's just weird, and I don't really know how they can fix it without starting all over.
>>724414259>>724414814I hate how grainy everything looks. And then there are these weird white sparkles flying around and the ditherings. Such an eyesore
>>724414040yeah it went from 99% negative reviews on steam to 98%
>>724390680stfu OP, wilds is a huge success
>>724404398i refuse to believe its anything but a corp board move to squeeze out max short term profits just from serving a minimum effort product that coasted along with the hype of the previous game
>>724415936Player reviews mean nothing to me because people adopted a meta strategy of spamming 0s for perceived slights instead of giving honest opinions
>>724415957
Capcom have washed their hands and looking past Wilds and Dragons Dogma 2.They're just going to release RE9 without performance issues because the engine is designed for it and everyone will slop it up like good goys.DD and Wilds will be distant memories.
>>724416005We know that it was pushed out too early. Shareholders reportedly wanted it out even earlier at the end of 2024 instead of early 2025.
>>724390680Game was too brown, in multiple ways.
>>724416547Nah, your /pol/ tourist is showing.
>>724415631Reminder
Reminder
>>724418145Kek. I know the previous one is from Game Informer interview, but from what video is this
>>724411234What the actual fuck did the bot mean by this
>>724397203Wilds right now has massive boost from new final fantasy collab.
>>724416380Nobody cares about RE9. It will do even worse than RE8.
series died when tendies got a hold of it
when will someone make a simple monster hunter game?>simple HQ, easy to navigate>pick one of three weapons>fun gameplay>no 4D chess menu and ui design, keep it simple
>>724404398it's Monster Hunter: Turd
>>724418671This nigga needs a brain dead version of a kids game lmoaa
>>724418260dunno but the screenshot is from 2024-06-01, if that helps you. Probably only on the japanese channel.
>>724392752all these retarded faggots replying to you defending restocks for no reason with the guise of "you dont need restocks if you're good" is baffling, why defend restocks then if they don't matter to you, its just another crutch for shitters to use and combined with all of the other casualization quality of life bullshit they keep shoving into the game its just stripping the identity from the seriesspeedrun trannies have always been hated in the MH community btw, you guys are faggots, nobody cares about your clear times.
>>724419073Seems so from the Capcom Channel logo. I'll try to track it down, thanks
>>724419124Because in practical purposes it does not matter, at all. At best it saves you from having to waste time quitting a quest to come back because you hecking forgot something which is not in any way real difficulty or anything of that sort and removing it wouldn't actually fix or cause any issues you think it does.
>>724419616in practical purposes everything you do in the game besides fighting the monsters doesn't matter so why not remove all the maps and just have a singular arena where you fight all of the monsters, kill yourself you reductive useless waste of space
>>724419124>speedrun trannies have always been hated in the MH community btw, you guys are faggots, nobody cares about your clear times.Long before it blew up in the west it was highly celebrated and competitive for fun in that way in japan. You just sound like every other western secondary/tertiary trying to butt in and co-opt the games as usual to suit your specific tastes.
>>724419801This is why I like spiribirds, the few minutes "jog" at the start brings to outcrops you'd otherwise shuffle by and encourages you to go places besides where the monsters fight more regularly.
>>724420015nobody but japs gave a shit about that and nobody but japs still gives a shit about that
I bet if they used the old proprietary engines that ran FU 3rd etc.. but on pc then the game would run with 1000FPS using my 1080 TI
>>724420121You faggots need to make up your minds. At first you always say that the series became ruined by catering more to western tastes then turn around and proudly crow about how you dislike japan's preferences.
>>724420295Those were all on MT Framework mobile which they have stopped using and had similar issues that RE Engine has with large open areas which were just able to be brute forced eventually.
>>724420328both are true, nobody cares about your clear times and going for broad appeal in the western markets has ruined the series
>>724420392They could've hired engine devs to improve theirs but, i guess but its probably just greed that made them not do it
>>724391246nigger top of the line hardware cant run this shit or slopma 2.
>>724420517>nobody cares about an aspect of the game that's been part of it since MH G, and has been part of what players do for far longer than you probably even picked up the games
>>724420705It's been improved a little but the real make or break will be in December where they claim the major fixes will be done. For me at least it is way less stuttery and memory hogging now.
>>724403876But do you play it?
>>724419616>Because in practical purposes it does not matter, at all.if it doesn't matter to you then stop defending it? restocking mid mission removes a punishment and encouragement to better yourself, so now instead shitters coast on unearned victories, the series used to actually be challenging, now its just braindead and restocks are a small part of it, but it still matters, death by a thousand cuts.
>>724420801>nobody cares about an aspect of the game that's been part of it since MH Gcorrect, I've been in the community since MHFU, nobody cares about your clear times.
I wouldn't say they completely killed it just yet, but MH is now in its crisis era much like Resident Evil was after 6's release. If they don't fix shit soon with the next two major installments then yeah, it's pretty fucked.
>>724421059Not really. Restocking doesn't prevent you from triple carting, and those people would probably just fall into the category of players that take 35+ minutes to kill the monster. Bettering yourself has mostly always been tied to clear times, which >>724421158 denies is of any importance.
>>724421256At least the home console titles are in danger. The portable entries should be fine.
>>724393486Quite literally a majority of MH's new wave popularity is thanks to PC ports.
>>724421281>Restocking doesn't prevent you from triple cartingit literally does though because you have infinite mega potions to spam chug
>>724411354How do you say that when a Lance has more difficulty reaching 40 DPS even with a fully kitted out build when a DB or HH hunter does that with literal table scraps?
>>724411354>using dps metersholy shit you're a fucking faggot
>>724421528If you're bad enough to need to chug you will be done in by stuns and combos, or one shots. And even if they still win the game plasters your end screen with how many items you used as a metric letting you know how bad you did.
>>724421737>And even if they still win the game plasters your end screen with how many items you used as a metric letting you know how bad you didit should be plastering their screen with a quest failed
>>724391045If they released a modern port of just GU and FU with online, they'd make back what they lost with Wilds, both during development and its recent failings.Hell, bring back Frontier and keep supporting itAll they need to do is rework the games to not have loading between zones and they'll be set for life.Shareholders are retarded, and if they pull out out of anger that the latest trend isn't being followed, they'll be pulled back in tenfold when popularity explodes once more.
>>724393367>Didn't touch it >bought it anywayconsoomers are truly not human
>>724393486Retarded wildstranny
>>724393746We reach new levels of steamchart fagging every day. Now it's this fake shit.
>>724421927Nobody is clearing quests they wouldn’t have otherwise by chugging over 20 mega pots lol
>>724423839but they are? also it's not even mega potions it's max potions. you can't be punished by anything but installs if you can restore all of your health during movement
>>724423839>>724424353>but installsinsta kills*
>>724423740Strange, steamcharts spam was welcomed and accepted in MH discussion for the past 5 years. What changed?
Pic related will save MH from the ugly and annoying humans Wilds shoved into pur throats.
>>724424680SYBAU TENDIE
>>724425041These games are terrible and make modern pokemon games look like good games. I don't mean the visuals either. I mean the braindead gameplay makes braindead pokemon gameplay look good.
nice june article
>>724425254Nice tripfag
>>724425559>that>tripfag
>>724423839the faggot in my last omega run that used 86 items says otherwise
>>724390680>>724391246They’re review bombing because of end of support for win 10Even world was hit
>>724425239huh?
>>724425651>what is free meal
>>724421570You can do less damage, just don’t sit there and eat damage/ignore mechanics if you aren’t pulling the weight.Also, wouldn’t care about dps if there wasn’t a literal dps check in the fight. Nercylla in savage needs 160 total dps to pass. Cactuar can help some but if 3 people are doing 20 dps it’s just not gonna work out
>>724394685DMC2 is the best selling DMC gameand 3 is the worst
>>724393486>faggot pretends this looks fine and runs properlykek
>>724393486>professional shit eater
>>724393072no thats not how it works>Pokemon Scarlet and violet>ran at 5 fps >was an ugly and buggy mess> nintendo refunded the game no matter the time played fully>sold 30 mil>next game Pokemon ZA>is even worse>pokefags still buy it and defend it>still shipped 6 milExtreme Fanboys are a cancer that has no cure and ruins any franchise, because they are profession shiteater that will praise anything linked to the brand. Just look at Fifa or BF6
>>724426598>>724426694jokes aside I'm genuinely surprised this sold 10 million units. like I know the new pokemon game is ugly but wilds manges to be somehow uglier than that
>>724427116not cool posting the actual retarded autistic guy
>>724426598>still using video image from launch>>724426694>actual beta video
>>724426694The sad thing is this looks way more interesting.
>>724427482It doesn't help that the steam charts state it had 1 million players but is now reduced to 38,000. holy shit
>>724427116ZA has less bugs and is unironically better looking than SV. it's not a gigantic leap in quality but it's definitely an improvement. still I wish game freak was dissolved so another dev could pick the series
>>724427482Lot of chinks coming from World, apparently. Consolefags were fucking desperate for a game at all. Perfect storm, but the fact the playerbase imploded in weeks says it all.
>>724427992>but the fact the playerbase imploded in weeks says it all.I don't think so. Historically Monster Hunter has had similar dropoff because most don't play it all the time. You can check both World and Rise's player history that shows drops to much smaller sustained numbers.
>>724428205Nope, you're looking at late life World numbers to try to make a point, it had strong numbers past launch window despite being a fucking shit release.
do devs know they messed something up or do they sit around a table scratching their heads when something flops?
>>724428273I looked at first eight months numbers for each. You also are ignoring that when World came to PC it already had several months of fixes and backlogged updates from console.
>>724428289>do suits press you after your 10 gorillion game is flatliningYes, that one presentation they made (first one?) had them basically begging players to stay around for new content, it was a very pathetic display.
>>724428503No, it fucking didn't, all updates were delayed and the port ran like dogshit for a very long time.
>>724425041its literally a mobile game for kids, are you a tendie that you taste is this terrible?
>>724428289doubt, modern japanese devs are trash
>>724428205Wilds dropped below World in total numbers in the same time-frame multiple times now, despite having like 5 times the peak player count.We also know that the sales in the months after release notably weak.What we can assume from this trend is that >A Wilds doesn't perform better than World, it just sold faster (fotm crowd, bigger fanbase)>B people are holding out (title updates, DLC, sale)>C people are hesitant to buy it because of bad reviews or high requirements (this shouldn't really affect console sales though)
why are guys debating wilds as if we're still at its launch? the game got much better sincelots of content, cool new monster and harder fights
>>724395184>live service shit and downloadable content trainThis is extremely disappointing to me. In the "old" days (i.e 3U and 4U, it's old to me okay) monster hunter was like a comfort series. I'd get really hooked on it for a couple months, then drop it for a couple months. But there was always comfort in knowing that I could come back at any time, I didn't miss anything, and I could dive in right back to where I left off or even go off the deep end into a completely new weapon type I've never tried before. Adding drip feed limited time content is the last thing I'd ever want for this series, it's not a fucking MMO or gacha game
>>724390680Everything in Wilds in painfully Mid or a step back from previous games
>>724390680You're still buying it cuck
>>724429464still the same shit game, it doesn't matter if they put a new layer of grind in it.
>>724390680World is still the best one.
>>724392752Seems to be a common trend among Jap devs these days to remove as much stress as possible from their games
>>724394237>SF3 floppedHonestly I've been playing it on Fightcade lately and it's just really fucking bad. Parrying might be the single worst game mechanic I've ever experienced in any game.
>>724427482wilds really isnt ugly except for the foggy season
>>724430101why is it shit?
>>724429464>people still pretend that rise is in its switch launch state to this day>people treat wilds like it's still in its launch stateYeah, that tracks
>>724402930lollmao even
Based Capcom. The sooner this shit dies the better.Terrible combat. Give me DMC6.
>>724414762We expect things to improve, not stay shit
>>724427621That is not autism. That is performative retardation.
>>724390680Yes and I hope that MH kills Capcom
>>724390680yes, no reason to play the new slop when they literally get worse with less content and features, luckily they have a huge catalog of older games that don't suck
>>724429971I hate event quests and time gated content but it's wrong to act like it's a modern problem. Dos had time limited stuff, Tri had rotating event quests. It is only for us having a long period of portable only games that we skipped them.That aside, the drip feed event quests were also always a thing, going so far as having all the content on-cart technically just not being accessible without the respective quests.I do think it's a bad precedent how Rise and Wilds had the actual final boss gated behind a later update though since i think there should be a clear divide between the base game being complete and the title updates expanding with their own story on top
>>724393367Hey I hope you're still in the thread. Please read this.You are nigger-brained cattle. Give me your mom's phone number. I need to tell her that her tard needs wrangled.
>>724393624>>724422617>>724436690Damn dude it's been 12 hours and you're still seething
>>724393367I did this. Expect i waited until i could find a slutty version of every armor. My wife and kids think monster hunter is goonbait.
>>724391246that's it? World literally had more than that earlier this year, and it's a 7 years old game.
>>724393231>i-it's just the chinese chud>English reviews are 40% positivebeggar levels of goalpost shifting. reminds me of dragon's dogshit when the shills would celebrate 50% positive reviews.
>>724391448replying because i appreciate you, anon
>>724390680The games harder than HR world ever was so all you guys who complained that the campaign of a mon hun was too easy [lol] are all gonna come back and you didn't get filtered by 9 stars and savage omega right...
>kill at nu udra in 14 minutesFuck I'll never be able to do it
>>724429129MHS3 is not coming to mobile.
>>724438432They got filtered before the final boss even released. They've never seen steve or lagi, let alone any 9* or even normal Omega.
>>724393072EVERYONE will buy the G rank expansion, and the switch 2 gameYou are retarded and don't know a single Japanese person Mechanically, wilds is great. The only problem is lack of endgame that every single new generation first release will have. It is particularly bad this time, but monster hunter has too much global recognition for your culture war to effect it
>>724391045>A very common Japanese trait lately with video game companiesBasically the only ones suffering from this are westoidified companies like crapcom and SE anon.Even gust/KT basically admitted their normalfag pandering was wrong and started pivoting away from it.
>>724391246yea, this is why just bought a ps5. a 1060 is a $200 card and it "cant run" modern games lol
>>724439898The 1060 is 9 years old, anon.
>>724390680Just give me a 4U pc port.
>>724440103ok, and? this has no bearing on the point
>>724392118It was rushed but I genuinely love dragons dogma. I had fun. The gameplay is fucking great. The story is hot garbage and it needs a hard mode and goddamn I want a dlc.
>>724404398From a gameplay perspective, it's a combination of focus mode and making perfect evade/guard have almost no consequence.Focus mode means aiming and timing don't matter because you can always correct mid-attack. Focus strikes are an unholy combination of afflicted wounds from Sunbreak and clutch claw wounding from Iceborne. It's too easy to create wounds and get free damage, staggers, and topples compared to normal part breaks.I never really liked the implementation of perfect guarding/evading in the previous games, but Wilds takes it to a completely different level. Previous games limited mechanics like that to a specific weapon (Lance/Long Sword), skill (Auto Guard/Redirection), meter (Arts/Wirebugs), or moveset (Valor/Adept).In Wilds, they gave every weapon a perfect guard, evade, or offset but forgot to add a downside for most of them by making them require a resource, skill investment, or precise timing. Because they're a regular part of your moveset, you can spam them with no consequence and in the worst cases, use them to outright animation cancel.The problem this is all leading to is the Zenithification of the series. Because positioning doesn't matter and attack commitment is nonexistent, every attack needs to be a massive hitbox with heavy tracking and monsters have MR levels of stamina now. We're already seeing this with 9-star monsters. Lagi, Steve, and Gore have bloated HP pools, aggressively use large AoE attacks, one shot you when enraged, do absurd chip damage through block, and only stop tarding out when you pop a tempered wound. I would not be surprised if MR monsters behave like Omega does when enraged in his last area.The funniest part is that the people who vocally hated Wilds and baited Capcom into making these changes stopped playing the game, so this only punishes and whittles down their core playerbase. I can't wait to see how they double and triple down on this in MR and reach Zenith levels of retardation.
>>724394685FF15 sold 10 million (probably ~11 million now cause that milestone was 3 years ago), with 5 million being day one. FF16 is probably not going to reach even half that until years from now when it gets deep discounts.
>>724427904>better lookingNigga, you're getting distracted by the new human character models (and some special effects, I guess). The city is made up of cubes, there's no interiors, the draw distance is bad, and the Pokemon are STILL using the XY models (with updated textures. Also a few Pokemon DID get updated, I think Pikachu was one? Goodra definitely got updated, haha.)The characters look great, but everything else ranges from shit to "meh", even if you're playing on Switch 2.Seriously, when the franchise hit the Switch 1, I thought we'd get new Pokemon models, but we never did.I repeat, a late Switch 1 / early Switch 2 game is still using Pokemon models from gens 6 and 7.NGL I wouldn't be that surprised if that's why Dynamax and Terastallization both include gaudy special effects on the Pokemon, to hide that they've got a vert count that's that low.
>>724438432I've been playing since launch and wasn't filtered by 9* or Omega. They're good additions, though 9* monsters didn't need to be a separate quest rank besides the talisman rewards when all they needed to do was buff the lower ranked monsters, especially tempered monsters to make the difficulty curve smoother and higher overall rather than having piss monsters for 99% of the progression, and then actually challenging hunts at the complete ass end of the game. Making 8* and 9* difficulty quests for lower tiered monsters event quests was a dumb idea, they should've just been randomly spawned at that difficulty so we can actually hunt them in investigations rather than fixed time limited quests.
>>724390680While I and alot of old fans would like to say yes. The objective truth is that World and new-gen Momster Hunter has had such an explpsion in sales and new influx of fans, it doesn't even matter if they killed what old fans liked about the series. They made millions, they eclipsed the sales of apl the older games put together and Monster Hunter is a bigger financial success than ever.Yes, Monster Hunter died becuase the new games where a success and won. It's not your franchise anymore. It's time to move on.
>>724390680nah dude World actually saved the franchise and it's also the best one ever and didn't cause any problems for the series' future
>>724391246Based literal child thinking running a company and making games is free, so all sales are pure profit
>>724392752World has proven that people just want Monster Hunting and not Monster Hunter
>>724398413G Rank never removed the camp and supplies entirely, it dropped you off in a random location with supplies arriving 10-15 minutes later, because it was supposed simulate you being dropped off without the guild having a chance to prepare for the hunt ahead of time.It's all just more flavor that was stripped away in hopes of having more mass appeal
>>724397203You retarded console war is really all that matters, isn't it?Games could be even more dogshit than they already are and you would still be happy as long as your pretend enemy loses in some way.What a sad piece of shit you are
>>724390680>Paul Tassiisn't that dude supposed to still be talking about destiny 2?
>>724404920>fucking tank and spank in a monster hunter gameThanks Capcom, very cool
>>724410994No, because apparently this is always what Monster Hunter was supposed to be, as evident by those CGI intros for each monster in the older games.Sony games really always were just temporarily embarrassed by hardware that couldn't render the games in their true, intended cinematic glory.The entire Nintendo era evidently only existed to keep the seat warm while technology catches up.
>>724413204>two dozen out of 833 members
>>724413907There's not much to understand about why World was popular, it's just like Skyrim and happened to get lucky with the normalfag crowd at the right time.If you looked at the retention for Iceborne, you can see that most of them already didn't bother coming back for G rank, so how would a new game ever manage to capture the same audience again?
>>724427116the thing is despite those pokemon games being a bit broken and ugly, they are still good pokemon gamesmonster hunter fails on both aspects and it's not like MH didn't have long standing fans, capcom just managed to piss them off with retarded decisions that completely fucked the core of the game
>>724444975not to defend World here but IB sold 15 million copies to World's 21 millionthat's pretty good attachment
>>724439528Konami is super based to have 10 years old toddler on bikini on their Idol sim(switch 2 exclusive for now) of death(which sends unfortunate jeets into crab fishing boat)as Konami is super sweatshop. Konami won't kneel to DEI. No wonder why Konami is stronk. And hope Takaichi normalize Capcom and Square to make Japanese game great again with Switch 2. >>724391045When Japanese game is rising with nintendo switch 2, and bikinis returning to Japanese console game as Ishiba's censorship weakening and Takaichi rises?
I did not lile wilds. I uninstalled after about 50 hours. I had done just about everything. I have not played the patches and doubt i will buy the expansion.I did however emulate gu and p3rd which have been great fun on my deck.
>>724445187Are those the current numbers after they've spammed both of them on sale and in bundles multiple times each year?I remember the initial numbers being pretty grim. Something like 20%Best I could find was https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hunter-world-iceborne-has-hit-4-million-sales-thanks-to-the-pc-launch/ with other articles reporting World sold around 12 million, I would call that pretty poor attachment, but I'm not surprised that it caught up now, like I said.
>>724445167This is mostly a 4chan thing. Other places aren't near as doomy/critical, least of all japan who mostly appear to be business as usual.
>>724432327It removes nuances and flavor out of the game and that made it good in a first place.It's also very ugly both from artstyle and design perspective.master rank will not fix any of that, they will just double down on difficulty and that means every monster now is going to spazzout all over the area because you can aim your attacks.
Why does Capcom still allow Stories to have SOUL?
>>724447950Because its the kiddy series, not for adults!
>>724447950No good way to tack on $700 of DLC like they've been doing since World.
>>724448351They did give it the old college try with Stories 2.
>>724393486lmfao this really set off the poorfag PCmutts
>>724450721>post lie>"shut up retard">lmao got'emYou have to be 18 to post here
>>724445167The only good pokemon games were the mystery dungeon games and colosseum/stadium
I tried using insect glaive. The new move wehre you use all of your buffs is cool but obtaining the buffs is so fucking annoying and cumbersome, not even maintaining Hunting Horn buffs is this convoluted.
>>724451108Didn't they get rid of vault dancing?
>>724451563idk which move that one is supposed to be, is that the wound attack?
>>724394520It is the main flaw that PCfags blow out of proportion. Yeah the game runs on shit on your PC you spent a ton of money on, not my problem. Some of the textures can be pretty shit on the PS5 and the game has too much anti soul gas, but other than that I enjoyed the shit out of the game and that's all that matters. Meanwhile PCfags are obsessed with performance like they usually are. It's a sickness really, the more they spend money on PC parts the higher their expectations get and they can no longer enjoy games without worrying about dumb shit.
>>724403593>NO NO NO, YOU'RE NOT ENJOYING IT, YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME FOR 200 HOURS AND FEEL CONTENT. NO YOU HAVE TO BE DEVASTATED LIKE US MENTALL ILL PC FAGSthis is what you sound like
>>724451758In rise you were able to be up in the air with insect glaive giving damage to the monster in a jumping pattern in the air. I assume this is your first MH?
I have hope that Itchynose won't put filthy focus mode into his next geimu
I didn't read the thread but after the disappointments of XX, Worlds Iceborn, Rise Sunbreak and now Wilds I have finally come to the conclusion and acceptance that I am no longer the target audience for Monster Hunter and Capcom will never make another Monster Hunter game that I will like. Thanks for asking.
just give me an official GU port to pc, you don't have to make any new monster hunters you tried buddy its ok, just give me the goods
Remember dd2 flopped so MH could die harder
>>724399338Gu and rice was exclusively made for faggots
Monsterhunter peaked with world and is the only real monster hunter game
>do everything wrong with world>extremely rewarded for this>make something even worsei don't know what you retards expected. real mh fans are waiting for the itchy nose game
>>724390680They went full retard for whatever reason. Probably due to end times.>handler is literally kosher max>bug eating>shitskins>all this budget yet leadership is yet to learn how to make game optimized>even more casualization>unskippable cutscenes I'm tired of satanic turds losing their minds because book of revelation turned out to be real deal and not "written by their predecessors"
>>724453035The only reason wilds such is because of rise, it took all the worse shut from rise which overshadow the things it took from world
>>724453112>go to hub, post quest, do quest, get rewardsthis is every game except world and wilds which are retarded and gay with tons of gay fucking cutscenes and shitty armor and shitty ass monsters and shitty sound effects. you cannot try to refute this without revealing your brown skin retard
>>724427116What happens to these types of people when their parents die? I mean, it's obvious that they have the financial sense of a 7-year-old child.
>>724443305World did the same thing though. Anjanath and shit isn't actually hard in HR World it was just 80% of the playerbases first monster hunter.
>>724390680Wahoo.
So why hasn't this game broke 11 million yet? In 2 months the final TU launches and thats it for the game until 2027 lmao.
>>724393746Why does it always have to be the French?
>>724417245Seriously, letting the NPCs talk was the worst fucking decision in the entire saga.This guy, without saying a word, has more charisma and is more likable than any other NPC that came out after World.
>>724414259>I was a potential buyer for this game until I played the beta. It's actually unbelievable how fucking ugly AND terribly running the game was.I'm in the exact same boat. I was defending this game beforehand. I remember thinking that rock formations in Wilds straight up looked like feces. It's unthinkable just how fucking UGLY they made that game look on top of it running like ass as you've said. Beyond those two major issue, I utterly fucking despised the intro and tutorial (a sign that there would be even more "setpieces" and unskippable exposition), hated everything about the bird and how it controlled, disliked the two weapon loadout, and was apprehensive at best about Focus. There was just nothing in that game for me, and I'm not a series veteran by any stretch (Freedom Unite was technically my first MH game ever, but I only really sunk my teeth in MH World.)
>>724453302Disingenuous faggot. You can't lie to people who actually play all the games.
The japanese developer needs the threat of the lash to work correctly.
>>724399453> Be Crapcom> Having a niche saga that consists of fighting challenging bosses> Lowering the difficulty of your game to please the retards on Reddit who can't try anything for more than 10 minutes straight without getting frustrated> Losing 90% of your player base because everyone gets bored of the game being too easy> Backtracking and increasing the difficulty to try to attract at least some of the audience you lost.> Only managing to drive away the few casual players who were still playing your game.They're retarded.
Ichinose killed my beloved franchise
>>724391448True
>>724393746>germans>french>italiansAll three countries killing themselves over white guilt liked the game. Interesting.
all this seethe and they'll still buy the next game day 1
>>724391045We dont need another GU
>>724455741I wouldn't be so sure of that. Globalism has strangled the money supply of the average consumer. They are finally having to make austere decisions with their purchases. Some retard that bought this game without thinking of the consequences will likely be more hesitant next time.I know of one such individual. He bought the game on ps5 and played it for a week on launch because asmongold told him to. He went in knowing nothing of the series and genuinely didn't like a boss rush with no filler. The only way he will buy the next game again is if someone like asmon tells him to do so.
>>724390680>said its woke garbage>it diesi am always right, never listen to /v/ trannies and poojeets.
>>724456407How do you tell your friends it is woke garbage? Ive become a broken record and my friends just tune me out at this point. They complain about the game and then I give them the I told them so. I shut my mouth for borderlands 4 they all bought it, they all hated it and they asked me why I didnt warn them.
>>724443636This but Street Fighter
>>724456407>this is woke somehow
>>724451980Are you talking about the helicopter spam? that thing was introduced in world?
>>724456946>muh paid costume
>>724456946The story is about how we need to save the environment because humans made the climate unlivable. That is straight boiler plate modern globalist bullshit injected into a game about hunting dragons and monsters.
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>>724390680Bought a 5070 ti for $1200 Canadian and it still ran like shit so. I'm not going to pay $4000 for a 5090 just to still run like shit and also be worse than world and rise.
>>724457041Also it's full of Indians when the west is at maximum Indian fatigue
>>724457041No it isn't you fucking tourist retard. There is literally a sci-fi weather machine from the ancient civilization causing the weather issues.
>>724457210>when the west is at maximum Indian fatigueI hope not, people still don't despise jeets nearly enough.
>>724457210MH world indians were going to show up at some point regardless as its always about exploring different parts of the world's setting.
>>724456313Do we need another Wilds?
>>724457364We could have had another Worldbut capcom killed MH instead
>>724457410Only for the doomer obsessed western faggots who never even liked the series until World. World literally exploded the amount of posers and people obsessed with their own hunters/huntresses that infest /vg/.
>>724457210The Indian Question didn't really enter the mainstream consciousness until after the game had been out, thoughThe middle of the year is when people really started to notice how invasively the west is being flooded with them and the ensuing problems they cause
>>724457460lmao World is the best fucking Monster Hunter you coping malding faggot. Capcom had a good thing going and they should have done what they did with their old games and just reuse shit instead of whatever the fuck they were thinking with Wilds.>posersYou were a "poser" once too faggot, god forbid the series gets any new blood ever. you act like you want the series to die with you personally.
>>724395087The ones that buy the game on steam are rich enough or care enough to have performant machines that don't make the gameplay miserable
>>724395087>he doesn't remember
>>724457460This. Worlds is a fucking disgrace upon the franchise, the fact that it brought normies into it is not a good thing AT ALL.You stupid faggot worldsperm retards actually think worlds was good? Worlds was to us what Wilds is to you.YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE, FAGGOTS.DROWN IN PISS.
>>724391045this, resident evil is suffering because of these fucks as well. buncha lame ass remakes and the main series hasn't progressed since 4.
>>724456407>unironically calling a japanese game "woke"biggest retard of the thread, no question
>>724457668If you want to make an indian mad talk about PakistanIf you want to make a jew mad talk about PalestineIf you want to make a tendie mad talk about MH World
>walk and talk with niggers simulatorif you asked me ten years ago if monhun would ever turn into something like wilds i'd have laughed in your face. grim
>>724457668uh oh stinkytendie angyIt appears World's superiority has caused controversy again
>>724458012Nice rebuttal, retard. You must have really worked your empty head to come up with that one, huh? Worlds is shit. I don't even play any nintendo games nor do I even own any of their consoles. Any MH game I play I emulate now.
>>724457979>Oh gosh, look at all this wonderful DIVERSITY Sugooooi~Fuckin crazy that anyone defends Wilds after dialogue like this
i firmly and staunchly believe that AT rey dau, tempered lagi, and EVERY SINGLE OTHER monster release 'lately' in wilds that was touted as 'difficult' is not actually difficult; it's completely artificial difficulty because all they do is inflate numbers and give delayed 'shockwave' second hits to every attack that has no purpose other than to fuck over players and remove abilities to counter-hitdodged or guarded that attack? good job. wait you cant attack because then you get hit by the shockwave if you do and if you evade that one, now the window is closedfucking cancer.
>>724458129Its called Wind Resistance, retard, look it up
Whats the brown percentage of characters in wilds? I believe japs and changs just don't like them that much.
>>724458126A similar line was in World too I'm pretty sure.
is $60 worth for the ultra mega faggy edition, or should I wait?and are they going ot fix the performance?
>>724438432>are all gonna come backi dont think so bro
>>724458339I don't understand how anyone can care about that. Honestly in my opinion if you care at all about any of the human characters you are part of the problem.
>>724458507fuck off
>>724458185wind resistance does absolutely onthing to the electric shockwave following every attack on AT rey dau that does 80% of your life on a defense/lightning defense capped geared hunter, dumbfaggot
>>724458537No, fuck you. People placing undue importance on human characters helped lead into the increased storyfaggotry of the latest games.
>>724458402You're actually thinking of buying this pile of shit?Lmao. Get fleeced.
>>724458587Nigger....I played through Dos recently and I cared very much about the people in Jumbo Village. I was more invested in all of them more than I was in any other Monster Hunter game story and I was actually genuinely saddened when the Jumbo Village Chief leaves without saying goodbye in person during the "final" village hunt YOU are the problem in not seeing the good story that was always there; you just skipped all the text boxes.
>>724402048solo melee is objectively easier than solo gunning in classing mon hunits is arguably easier then HBG in modern Mon hun.The only ones id consider easier solo in modern isLBG in world, rise and wilds, especially riseBow in wilds, because of the dodge. it was pretty good in world and rise too but to use it well required a lot more skill than any swordmost bladefags opinions on gunner comes from LBG rise spam or watching multiplayer hunts or speedtrannies. Go play HBG in MHFU and tell me its easier than any melee weapon.
>>724414006>Braindead LBG on top>above the HBG, which is harder and requires more skill>HBG on the bottom despite being the hardest solo weapon on paperman they REALLY raped HBGs in modern MHDid they learn nothing from rice?
>>724458480it was less a begging for players and more a realization that the crying worked and I can't even imagine how hard MR expansion will be at this rate. Savage omega is genuinely a late game MR monster in terms of difficulty. Could be a one off event thing, but Behemoth was not this hard and the 9 star AT monsters are all challenging too.
>>724405376/v/ wont admit this though, because despite their protest to the contrary, theyre all NPC sheepcattle who must follow the common thoughtwilds bad, therefore, monsters bad.Jin was the best elder-tier base game monster in a while already, rey was the best flagship tier wyvern in forever already.omega is just amazing.these same people, by the way, will unironically say the best monster is ahtal ka (or whatever, web-beetle from genu/xx) then say omega is badlet THAT sink in.
>>724451980>>724451108They have it in the game but its not optimal dps unless being on the ground is dangerous.but IG in wilds you cannot play in good faith unless you have a controller with paddles, cause you have to be holding down the charged attack 90% of the time INCLUDING in the air, it leads into your big spiral slash which is ur entire gameplan, u get 3 buffs, you charge attack and then rising spiral move, that gives you some buffs back, sometimes all 3 its depending on what parts you hit, but yeah I cannot believe they made the weapon dependent on holding fucking B or Circle the entire fight, its fucking autistic on an ALREADY autistic weapon with kinsect buffs. Literally do not play the weapon unless u can bind B to a paddle button.
>>724405673>I don't think the issue is restocks. I always felt that the issue is that monsters just feel piss-easy in Wilds compared to previous titles - how easy it is to just stunlock via wound breaks.you havent played the TUs.base game is easy, every base MH is easy. Always has been except maybe MH1 just for clunk alone.Youre conflating G rank games with base games.As of at least TU2 the monsters arent stunlocked by wounds at all, takes a good load of hits to make a wound now, and AT mons dont even flinch unless the wound was a blue one.
>>724455510>italians>white guiltdude we have people sellings fascist memorabilia without getting punished
Mh went completely woke during 3rd gen
>>724390680I can't play it after the update, even with a decen computer, like even on low that shit just doesn't work; I was happy enough about it (it still needed quite a few improvement) but holy shit its unplayable now
>>724397203Everyone and their mothers played Rise the moment it came on Switch. But you don't care about it because you hate all Nintendo momentary exclusives because they're tainted or something like that.Someone post based Risebreak webms.
>>724390680Wilds is the nortubel of Monster Hunter
Quick, thoughts on this monster
>>724459859overdesigned unrealistic trash just to appease bing bing wahoo players. Good shit never came back along with Kh*zu
>>724459859It is new therefore bad
>>724429464Ff collab and a few returning monsters + arena most of which was cut content from the rushed launch. Wow so much better than at launch, as if.
>>724459314Incorrect.We will freely admit this, but that fact that TO GET THERE and down Omega is just too much of a grind for so little fun, for so little reward. There is literally no reason to even try when the game is such a fucking breeze
>>724459859Seltas queens et al was just a gimmick if you ask me. Nothing to write home about, nothing too difficult, you just had both things to deal with at the same time.
>>724459859cool concept, meh fight. Also I despise mecha armor designs and they don't belong in MH
>>724459859Not a true monster
