Is there a better DEEPEST LORE series than Kirby?
>>724419232What does that post even mean dude, talk fucking normally
guys did you know in mario there's a recurring boss called DRY BOWSER. deepest lore...
>>724419232Warhammer
>Kirby """lore"""
>>724419294If a game is BING BING WAHOO coded but there's deep pause menu info about the characters then its DEEPEST LORE, dude
Kirby lore fags are some of the most obnoxious faggots. Oh my god flavor text in the pause menu of boss refights.
>>724419947Hey, kirbo fans don't decide to put the schizo flavor text in the new game plus. It's ninty's fault for having an insane OC-driven series.
>>724419434On a related note, I'm surprised there hasn't been someone who made a kid friendly Dark Souls type of game. >But it already is for kids!Yeah yeah, very clever. All I'm saying is if kids are retarded and eat up slop more than usual with each passing generation (from memes to anime to creepypasta slop to literal absurdist attention zapping drivel) then they'd be all over it. I mean for fucks sake, have you seen what they do for garbage like SonicExe and Friday Night Funkin? All that popularity just because they wanna write headcanon. The money is there.
Never forget about the time anon made a truth nuke about kirby lore
is forgotten land good? Looks a little easy for a platformer
>>724419232Is this just Unicron from Transformers but OwO?
>>724421026>looks a little easy for a platformerDo you even know what thread you're posting in?
>>724420190There's one about some hermit crabs.
>>724420984No, it's deepest lore. Don't shame me for liking babygames
>>724420984Damn unc is seething
>>724421146did you read the part of my post you didn't quote?
>>724421157I have no idea what you're talking about. What is it?
>>724421124Nova shares Unicron's size but he isn't a predator and doesn't consume worlds, he's an neutral omnipotent wishgranter, like a genie. He's appeared twice - once to turn a weirdo little jester character into picrel, the other to create an entire interplanetary tech company under the guise of a supercomputer.
>>724420984the point of lore is that it doesn't contribute to gameplay but to world building though...?
>>724419414Kek>>724419232I say this as a massive Kirby fag; Kirby """lore""" is fucking garbage, and its destroying this franchise.I just don't get it. It's not deep, intresting, or even all that original. Kumazaki has absolutely destroyed Kirby. Fuck him.
>>724421469Are you sure this is how you want to out yourself as a midwit with bad reading comprehension?
>>724420984this kills the kirbylorefag
>>724421124No, just a mechanical wish-granting star. >>724421362Another Crab's TreasureRollslop, takes place in a kingdom after it falls to an otherworldly disaster that you find out more about through environmental set pieces and item descriptions, the main character is searching for the means to godhood, and chock full of "Zanzibart, forgive me...".
yeah
>>724420984The post that killed tendies
What's with the random Dark Souls seething whenever Kirby lore is discussed? I'm assuming it's just shit posters using something popular to bait more people.
>>724419232>>724420984Actual trvth nvke: Frothing over "Kirby lore" is just a desperate attempt by manchildren to justify the fact that they like games for kids instead of just owning up to it. It's the same as those "animation is cinema" autists. Just admit you like a game for babies, no one really cares if you like bing bing wahoo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR5AoSrK3g0
>>724421787Never heard of it. But the characters need to be more anthropromorphized, or at least from what I've seen. But I've also seen some motherfuckers get into Cookie Clicker lore, but they still have a human shape to them... humans subconsciously relate and attach themselves more to figures that look and/or walk like them. Don't ask me how it works, but it seems to be true.
>>724420984How's that different from Last of Us?
The real red pill is that Kirby doesn’t even give a shit about his own lore
>>724422574he's basically Conan. There's a lovecraftian thing going on but the hero couldn't fucking care less
i just like how consistent/relevant the lore is.>>724422574that just makes it better, though. kirby's just a dude when the circumstances aren't focusing on his origins
>>724422216>Just admit you like a game for babies, no one really cares if you like bing bing wahoo.This is fine, but the problem is when faggots try to pretend there's a weight to why they like it and then it keeps getting perpetuated and you have posts like this >>724420984 that just utterly shit all over their illusions, and the manchildren fight back and hate on them for speaking the truth. I personally am glad to have self awareness on the things I like and understand what depth they have. I like a product for its quality, regardless of "depth". But there is a difference between depth and nuance, and you don't need much depth to have nuance or interesting nuance. These are also called "subtlties" and sometimes good metaphors/character writing. Just enjoy good things and acknowledge why you like them, don't try to conjure a giant's shadow out of an ant.
>>724421525I feel like Kirby lore is just an extension of the seires whole "aesthetics" of taking something cute and contrasting it with out of place looking cosmic threats at the final hour. Sure, it's not as crazy deep and integral to the series as people make it out to be, but i'd argue it is pretty much woven into the DNA of the games from Adventure onwards. The only thing that Kumazaki really did is try to kind of unify the different sub-series into one whole narrative instead of having the games be separate.In that sense the lore is fun since it gives the feeling of the games setting up interesting future concepts just like how Forgotten Lands showed the origin of the ancients.I do need to say i don't care about the side characters that get last minute le tragic backstory though like how they did it with Taranza, Susie and the Mage Sisters.
>>724420984This is why DL3 and 64 have the best storytelling even if the games themselves aren't that fun.
>>724422893I cried when reading the flavor text tho.
>>724422893i like susie because her character was continually established throughout the game, DESPITE her deep loor being behind the pause menu.
>>724419414Came here for this.
>>724423384>Z-Zanzibart forgive me!
Kirby story is fun when it’s just, someone steals Kirby’s cake so he’s upset and chases after them then it turns out there’s some cosmic horror behind everything. It’s a funny contrast that there’s this silly little pink blob who just wants to eat and then he defeats some horrific cosmic god. I don’t care about being on a post apocalyptic planet where everyone has a tragic backstory.
>>724423782That's a reference to Yggdrasil. The world tree. That's neat!
>>724424151Okay but how does this affect the story?
>>724424151>>724424232It's just neat
>>724419232I've enjoyed discussing KH lore on /v/ - The Vidya. It's fun to discuss because it has a bunch of rules that it """follows""" (read: gets retconned FREQUENTLY) so you can argue about how something should happen ad nauseam because Nomura will just flip the script and it won't matter anyway.Maybe it's a masochistic thing.
>>724424261Okay but how does this affect the storu narratively?
>>724424376it's just neat
>>724424591Okay but how does this affect the story narratively?
>>724425045It gets the noggin joggin'
>>724420984Kirby has the deepest lore started as a light joke. Then hyperautistic manchildren who will never touch a woman in their life suddenly got super defensive about it and made it their life choice to shitpost and gaslight themselves into actually believing it.
>>724425143Yeah, it takes real brain power to step over the small 3 inch puddle that is comprehending a Kirby game for somene like you.
The Kirby lore would be less deep if the Star Allies translation wasn’t botched
>>724425252I whole heartedly blame Woolie and his faggot ass video for starting this. https://youtu.be/p4LGbIKPo6gLiterally no one did this before it came out and people just liked Kirby games, and then a bunch of tumblr-esque faggots watched this, ran with it, and now some of them are here because modern 4chan is full of more manchildren and low IQ midwits than ever.
this thread reeks of the two opposite sides of the autistic spectrum.
Sometimes it feels like HAL never planned any of this and just throws stuff out to watch fans try to piece it together.
>>724425437>I whole heartedly blame WoolieAm I supposed to know who the fuck that is?
>>724425534So it was this thread that had the deepest lore all along.
>>724425635Probably the guy in the video you braindead contrarian.
>>724425639maybe anon was the deepest lore all along
>>724425635Niche eceleb, kirby fag, affected your series' perception in the way to where it snowballed and now we're having this exact thread. Basically, blacks ruin everything, again.
>>724425437woolie the fighting game guy?
Deep lore just means over analyzing stuff, usually because fans can't let go and spend an unhealthy amount of time on something that is not that deep instead of an actual hobby where the hyper fixation actually would produce some useful skill at the end of the road instead of self induced autism.And in that case Kirby really is not even that popular so it doesn't have enough fans to produce the autistic content. It definitely can't compete with shit like Sonic or Souls games where the autism is just on a whole other level.
Kirby is a sickeningly cute platforming series where occasionally the devs unleash their inner chuunibyou to come up with scenarios for a 'serious' threat to the candy-land's peace and quiet. It works, chuunibyou shit is always cool, but it's not "deep", and it's not a BAD thing for it to not be so. It's just cute, and also cool. If you're into that, you can be into Kirby.
I mean as someone who casually plays Kirby and barely pays attention to the 'lore', this entire thread feels like that one "STOP HAVING FUN" comic.
>>724426057Point me to the fags in this scenario who are “having fun” because in reality no one is like that
>>724420984Goddamn what a nuke, this should be pinned in all kirby threads
>>724424376It's backstory.
>>724426057>le toxic positivityFuck off, I'm having immense fun shitting on deep lore fags.
There's zero Kirby lore discussion in here. Loads of seethe over it though, is this what you do with your time anon?
>>724426057Because the lore impacts how the game functions, right? It alters the story in a significant manner?
>>724426138>>724426183>>724426250Yeah case in point. I kind of just dropped in for Air Riders talk but it's mostly schizos fighting ghosts.
>>724426231If you are here you are a waste of life. Just skip the larp.
every time i scroll past this thumbnail i see titties
>>724426402>pointOh god, this fag actually is so autistic that he is trying to "make a point" in the kirby lore thread.
>>724426250it explains why things are how they are
I like the borb. I like how his adventures always start mundane and are about stuff like his cake getting stolen and he ends up battling dark cosmic entities.t. Hardly played kirby games. Only played squeak squad canvas curse and air ride. But as far as I know hes never had a bad game.
>>724422216>Just admit you like a game for babiesNo, I won't do it. I refuse to do it on the basis that me praising something from a kids' game obviously means I like the game since, if I were self-conscious about it, I wouldn't even bring it up in the first place and for the fact that it serves no relevance or purpose beyond you gaining some weird personal satisfaction from me participating in some dumb humiliation ritual.>no one really cares if you like bing bing wahooWhy can't you just admit that you are bothered by it? There's nothing inherently ridicule-worthy or embarrassing to have a problem with something especially if you have valid reason for it. Go ahead and press me and challenge my life choices but don't conclude by insinuating that I'm being weird and touchy about it when the Spongebob rollercoaster fags is literally the side picking this fight.
>kirby is le babby gamu!Funny, because the true arena is always pretty damn difficult
>>724423782>Gosh, that's Silly Bob! Silly Bob's a bit angry right now. Calm him down and he'll treat you to some pie! >>724424261>Kracko's crackling with cackling jokes that'll be sure to make you crack and cackle! Avoid his funny humor so you can become best friends with him! >>724424591>This big mean old grandpa is so grumpy acter being woken up! Sing him a lullaby and he'll thank you with some milk and cookies. >>724426057>>724426163>>724426653There you go bros, I wrote your Kirby backstory that has the same amount of weight as the real thing. You all should love it for its depth! It's 1 to 1, really.
>>724426929>oh my god this part of the game takes multiple tries how could children with endless time ever solve this task of pattern recognition?
>>724426932neat, do you have a ao3 account
>>724422574>>724422893The fact that Kirby himself doesn't care about the worldbuilding beyond the stuff that directly inconveniences him really drives home the whole "childhood" thing that Kirby has going on. He's is just a little guy. He doesn't care about galactic politics, the economic potential of Dreamland's resources, or the origins of eldritch horrors. All he knows is that something mean has interrupted his naptime/snacktime/playtime and or upset his friends. So he's going to go put a stop to it.The characters who do directly interact with the lore are the "grown-ups." Meta-Knight, King Dedede, Magolor, Susie. The older, more knowledgeable characters who have reason to get involved in the bigger picture. It plays into the duality of what the Kirby series is. There's a surface level of cute and simple that's approachable to anyone, with surprising depths just beyond that invite the more experienced to become more invested.
>>724424376Kracko is everywhere and hates you.
>>724426929If it's in a game made for literal toddlers, then the devs knew they could beat it. Congratulations, you have less skill than a five year old.
>>724420984This offers an interesting question that would actually make interesting threads. How could the lore in kirby that is yet just a mere skin, simple aesthetics, style over substance, be used in an actual meaningful way?
>>724426932Nah, NIntendo did it better.
>>724426609Bodacious clock titties
>>724426932Nintendo, do NOT hire this man.
>>7244269324kids tier
What is the non cope answer that Kirby can be defeated by waddle dee or an apple?
>>724427181This is a lot of words just to cope about Kirby being kiddyslop. Like some will shit on Mario, but at least the fags are aware they only like it for the gameplay and the only story autism comes from games with an actual story like the RPGs.
>>724421604the irony of this post
>>724427350hoe's mad
>>724427350how are the mario rpgs not kirby tier in story
>>724427181>words words wordsBro, it's just a game. Just have fun instead of being autistic.
>>724427327It makes Kirby go "OWIE OWIE" and go home.
>>724427327it's the same answer as to why sonic can die from stubbing his toe
>>724419232Anon it's a game for kids..
Kirby lore is the best, better than your favorite game seriessource: i made it up
>>724427498Because it has an actual unweaving story instead of just going from stage to stage and hiding whatever meaningless fluff details in menus that don't matter whatsoever. I mean just look at this anon >>724426932, you could exchange what he wrote here to the actual ingame descriptions and it would be the exact same game.
>>724427327Infinite power isn't the same thing as infinite durability. Or if you prefer, he just gets too tired to keep putting up with the hassle of the adventure and decides to go back to sleep, which is why all the game over/continue screens either involve waking him back up or him just staying snoozing.
Things automatically receiving "deep lore" because they are popular kinda makes creating things completely meaningless. We should just be served our goycattle slop rationed by big corpo and be happy.
>>724419294You fucking don't talk fucking normally yourself, for fucking fuck's sake>>724420190Might be a genius idea, but how would you make modern kids accept very steep difgiculty?
>>724427835I never said it had to be hard. Just akin to Souls in terms of unraveling the story.
>>724427519I'm terribly sorry that thinking about things isn't fun for you, Anon.
>>724427663I could play Mario & Luigi Partners in Time in French, not understand a single word, and still kill princess shroob at the end
>>724427587kids media can have good writing
>>724427663the only unweaving story in those games is likettyd and dream teamevery other game is just>oh noes, a road block ok never mind
>>724427937Kids don't have the ability to read between the lines of a sparse and segmented story like the souls games. That skill is only developed starting around middle school when they start to read more complex books and stories that require analysis, and even then about 50% of them won't read it at all and will just look up a plot summary on the internet.
>>724427980>me when I'm a disingenuous retarded faggotWhat will your next genius argument be, my lord?
Fuck Kirby and Master Chief. Put them in a room together and send in the kill squad to give them endless headshots.
Kirby lore is one of the best in gaming and I wish I was joking. Other series I enjoy/played everything:ZeldaYakuzaYsTrailsMega ManMetroidFinak FantasyTalesDragon QuestAssassin's Creed
>>724427663You could change all the dialogue in TLoU with tard speak and it would still be the same game. What's your point?
>>724428150Dude, I mentioned Exe and FNF for a reason. Stop living in a bubble.
>>724422216kirby is a game for [ E ]veryone
>>724428261In a game where the story actually matters like Zelda, it would be different. Stop exposing yourself as a midwit. It's embarassing.
>>724428150That's the thing, though. The best stories have layers to them where even if you're not picking up on the subtext on your first go-round you can still enjoy the obvious stuff. Then on repeat reading/viewing/playthroughs you're better equipped to pick up the pieces you missed before.
>>724428417No it wouldn't. The gameplay would remain the same.
Lore is a multiplier for story but kirby has no story so it doesn't really matter except for autistic manchildren.
>>724428482Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with that. But kids are incapable of parsing that level of complexity. They only read the surface until they've mentally developed a bit more.
>>724428624I would ask if you're retarded but you seem to be answering that for me already.
>>724428826Backstory is a type of story.
>>724428859You're the kind of guy who'd make purposefully dogshit kidslop just because you think kids are stupid, aren't you? Just like how they also keep pumping out shitty remakes.
>>724428951You're the one that clearly can't distinguish between story elements and gameplay elements.
>>724428417>In a game where the story actually matters like Zelda, it would be different. Stop exposing yourself as a midwit. It's embarassing.
>>724427181Best post ITT.Kirby is about fun. It's fun to have a protagonist be a silly pink puffball when paying even the most cursory amount of attention to what's happening as you play reveals that planets are being destroyed by demon-gods or whatever. It's funny. No one is out here saying Kirby has a good or coherent story, just that it has an interesting subtext in what is otherwise a goofy fun and cartoony game series.
>>724429072You don't even know what you're talking about. I'm done replying to you since you seem so low IQ. You're a waste of time.>>724429080Yes, thank you for agreeing with me.
>>724429040Kids aren't stupid. They're just not capable of understanding writing with multiple layers of subtext; that's just not a skill they develop until later in life.Also, I think remakes are abhorrent and shouldn't qualify for copyright. Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.
>>724428859Kids aren't stupid, though. They can recognize when they're being talked down to and discounted. Even if they're not getting the full experience, they're still getting something worthwhile and will want to come back for more. I watched the Fellowship of The Ring in theaters when I was nine. I didn't understand the greater lore of Middle Earth. I didn't know Boromir from Faramir or Legolas from Leggo my Eggo. But I still enjoyed the fantasy movie about going on an adventure to destroy an ancient evil.
>>724422750>and the manchildren fight back and hate on them for speaking the truthThe ingenious debate tactic of entering a community, shitting on the thing they like with no intent to challenge them on their tastes in good spirit but solely out of antagonism, getting nothing but resistance and disagreement in return, and declaring that the very act of resisting and disagreeing with you proves your point even further.
>>724420984That post is clearly being sarcastic though
>>724429284And I was the same. Therein lies the issue. You can't actually make an experience like dark souls and expect kids to go layers deep trying to parse the meaning out of it; they don't read into lore like that until their grey matter is a bit more developed. What they see is a fantasy game. They only parse the surface level, not any of the actual complexity.
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>>724419232Who is making these goddamn Novas? Who in the hell have so much power to keep pulling off such a feat in Kirby's universe?
>>724429301Autists can't handle criticism. Have you seen this thread with defenders trying and failing to convince others? It's more of an intellectual thing than anything else, and each generation is getting more stupid, coddled and lack critical thinking.
>>724429563Palpatine
>>724429486Jesus christ nigga stop being stupid, because no one fucking cares. Just admit you're not as smart as you think you are and don't understand what you're talking about. >>724429563It's Pootsy, the Poodivine. He looks like a jellybean until he grows into a bigger jellybean with a paper crown. He'll never have been mentioned or will be mentioned before or after the game comes out because he doesn't matter.
>>724429640Legit question. Do you really think you are intelligent in any conceivable way? Since you call others stupid this is the undeniable implication here, right?
>>724429640>criticismSaying something is shit or calling fans of something autists isn't criticism anon. If anything constantly seething over people enjoying something because you're unable to understand why they enjoy it is autism.
>noooo kirby, not at church
>>724429906Doesn't matter what I think of myself, what matters is calling things out for what it is. A mcdonalds burger isn't something made by a master chef, and anyone with a brain won't say it is. It's just cheap fastfood. And that's fine. You just need to appreciate shit for what it is than pretending it's something it's not.
>>724429640>criticism>Go in a thread>Say nothing of substance >Shit and piss all over>People call you retarded>Hide behind muh criticism
I like Sword Knight and Blade Knight
>KIRBY GOD DAMN IT NOT AT THE DINNER TABLE MY PARENTS ARE HERE
>>724429563The Ancients, who studied the reality warping powers of the alien creature Fecto Forgo, using that knowledge to build craft like the Lor Starcutter and the Clockwork Stars. They left their homeworld, creating the Forgotten Land, and went galivanting all over the universe, leaving trinkets and gadgets in their wake.What were they? My headcannon is that they were pic related, and Nightmare was also one of them who had a little too much fun learning about Void Termina from the Jamba Cult. But at this point, it's still a mystery. And that's half the fun of theorizing.
>>724430186Still waiting for an actual argument. Let me know when you have one.
>>724429640>Autists can't handle criticism."Not handling criticism" involves shutting you down, ignoring you, and not addressing your arguments. The Kirby fans here, myself included, aren't guilty of any of that.>Have you seen this thread with defenders trying and failing to convince others?I'm not trying to convince you. I know you've already made up your mind before entering the thread and have no inkling to consider changing it ever so slightly upon finding new information so I'm just having fun breaking the illusion of you 18-year-old, main character syndrome-afflicted, Rick Sanchez-tier dialogue, 1st day psychology students' "deconstruction" of Kirby fans and why they like Kirby lore.
>>724430389Your argument is the equivalent of a retard trying to comprehend something he doesn't understand. Sit down.
>>724430457But enough about your argument. >>724430429Holy cope, Batman. This guy is proving me right. >ignoring you How's that going?
>>724430630>N-No UI accept your concession
>>724429740"What do you mean it blew up the Galactic Nova?!"""@!#$*! @!#$*!@!#$*!@!#$*!""WHO IS KIRBY?!?!""WHAT THE FUCK IS A SHOOTING WARPSTAR?!"
>>724430690>hides behind buzzphrases like a coward Yep, that's what I thought.
>no kirby not today, please>hey hude you don't need a condom to fuck my boy pussy>b-better safe than sorry
>>724430896>He says when hiding behind ad hominemsHoly lack of self awareness Last (you)
>>724430389You didn't address this one >>724426824
Desu from an outsiders perspective, it definitely seems like the ones arguing against kirby lore are being butthurt
>>724431083It wasn't replying to me directly so I didn't look at it. He makes a lot of grand assumptions and projects all his insecurities over not wanting to admit he actually likes kiddy shit. It's pathetic. >>724431036It's okay, I know you can't actually form a constructive reply to begin with. I have no expectations from you, just like everyone who interacted with you.
>>724425437This started before 2018 and Woolies stuff. Actually, I contribute the success and growth of SiivaGunner to the huge surge of “Kirby Lore masters” as they capitalized super hard on Robobot back in 2016 and that was the time when the channel was at its peak in viewership. They even made a whole album basically dedicated to Robobot, which at the time was definitely the Kirby game with the most story in its pause screens and all the callbacks to other games (partially due to asset reuse). Woolie did propagate it later on alongside “The RPG Monger” who had a Moogle from FF as his persona. There was also Meteorz but he was a Kirby creator since like 2010 who covered basically everything Kirby and never got as many views.
>>724419232Who cares man, I just want to eat the enemies and get Kaabi to wear some sick copy ability attire.
>>724420984Based anon who knew what he was talking about, if he saw this thread he'd be extremely validated
I always like how Kirby games start off in an innocent dream world and progressively become more and more twisted until the final level where you're fighting an alien genocide machine or eldritich abominations or whateverI still don't think the lore is particularly deep, it's all style and no substance. Still cool though and I would kill for a spin off about Meta Knight or Dedede.
>>724421026It is easy but it is fun, such a shame the DLC is so small.
Why are Sakuraizoomers melting down in this thread so badly?
Mario has deeper lore though. Did you know mushrooms are a metaphor for drugs?
>Autism....BAAADI highly doubt anyone on 4chan (let alone /v/) ISN'T autistic.
Pretty sure Sakurai added Marx begrudgingly, why does he neglect his coolest son so much.
>>724432379So true! I heard that even the blocks are transformed Toad-izens, so really we're a mass murder as well! :shockedemoji:Kirbyfags simply can't compare to our DEEP and ENGAGING and MINDFUCK lore...
>>724419232Look OP, I can't read your mind. I don't know if you phrased your post this way intentionally to provoke this shit-flinging but if you really did intend to talk about Kirby lore after getting excited about Air Riders then I'm truly sorry that you were met with disappointment. We'll definitely get more fun threads that discuss the actual lore come November though.>>724431825>It wasn't replying to me directly so I didn't look at it.Excuses, excuses. You were already told that people have been arguing back and all it would have took was scrolling up this not that big thread and looking at the reply chains to that ebin reddit-screencap baiting rant post.>He makes a lot of grand assumptions and projects all his insecurities over not wanting to admit he actually likes kiddy shit. It's pathetic.Looks like you hated him because he spoke the truth.
>>724432303funny thing is sakurai is doing the lore shit now too
>>724432463Dude, what? He was a boss with Ultimate and was even given new attacks to show off his creepy factor
>>724432517Why are you stupid? Is it on purpose?
>>724432462Autism bad because nowadays there are too many annoying and deranged women self-identifying as autistic to look special and quirky so it's officially cringe and lame.Insist on being a normal and well-adjusted person even if they catch you jacking off to sandy cheeks cock vore.
>>724427194All the most meaningful uses of it are only in the side campaign or true arena. Base game rarely ever has a significant usage of it, like you’re supposed to care about Haltmann getting brainwashed or whatever when fighting Star Dream but you won’t until the end of the true arena because it only matters there as a subtle detail in the background. It doesn’t impact the actual fight of the base game at all. This is also why Galacta Knight has been a huge waste of time for like 17 years, he’s always gonna be a side mode guy who allegedly did something 10883839 years ago but meta knight will kick his ass anyway I guess.
>>724419414FPBP
Let's say we all accept the premise of this thread. Where do we go from here? Do we make up shit based on screenshots and then people will join the larp?
>>724433124>like you’re supposed to care about Haltmann getting brainwashed or whatever when fighting Star DreamNo? You are supposed to truly understand the story only after seeing it all and reflecting on it. That's just you showing you don't get the point. Not all stories are meant to be understood linearly.
>>724433339who cares, the juxtaposition of such a mild and friendly looking world with dark lore is inherently funny and I'll continue to be a fan for that reason
Kirby lore is all about a pink puffball that's actually a sentient blackhole and it goes around eating everything. The end.
I just want another kirby minigolf game and lorefags have ruined my dreams.
>>724433695how is that lore fags faultwe just got air ride back
>kirby has a bigger problem with lorefags than vorefags
>>724433695Kirby is one of the few Nintendo franchises to still be getting regular spinoffs. How in the world could is lore keeping you from getting a new Dream Course? Would the flavor text saying that Magolor built a big mini-golf theme park ruin the experience for you?
>>724420984>its just flavour text that doesn't matterRecent games had multiple boss fights that were walking lore events that have been built up to for a decade alongside Forgotten lands in its entirety being an incredibly vital place to the lore.Kirby lore isn't that deep or crazy, but it is continuous and actively matters to the larger development of the series as a whole. In that sense it is very comparable to Adventure time. An episodic cartoon aimed at children that actually has a continuous narrative in the background
>>724424376The cloud FUCKING DESPISES Kirby and we get to beat its ass up to show it its place
>>724427306Don't slander 4kids like that.
>>724434304I still remember the leaked screenshots of Forgo in his jar, and how everyone immediately connected the dots between him being the Ancients' lab rat, Nova's core being based on him, and the Starcutter's portals looking like his. Those were some fun threads.
>>724433695Here's your new Dream Course broSorry, Dream Buffet
>>724434717Star Allies threads were fun too.Ultimately there is just something really entertaining about getting crumbs and trying to put the bigger picture together.If you just lay it out and write it all down in plain text, a lot of games don't have that complex lore or world building, but it isn't about complexity, it is about the process of puzzling it together to make sense of it which serves games as an interactive experience over books.its kinda how you could theoretically complete Outer Wilds in 10 minutes, but it is the process of getting to those 10 minutes and understanding what you have to do that makes it matter so much
>>724419414Why are people mad Kirby actually has a story?
>>724434050>>724434127>>724434914>30 years ago>lmao ball goes into hole>you're hired >today>ball goes into hole>that's it? but what is the lore>the lore is the ball goes into hole>where is the kafkaesque eldritch ambience coupled with open ended metaphors based on color and food shapes??? we can't make such game in this day and ageLorefags have killed games.
>>724433695All it needs for a new kirby golf game is for the next wave of HAL interns to pitch it
>>724435110what were the lore implications behind dream buffet
trhis is my preffered Kirby Deeplore
>>724435318Are you saying I will not find deepest lore threads for dream buffet if I look into the archive?
>>724435730idkbe my guest
>>724419414That was what OP was alluding towards to begin with.
>>724427327The same reason why any vidya protagonist is capable of dying to a first stage mook, you suck at the game.
>>724434050>he says as air riders has a psuedo story mode and its opening LITERALLY presents Ride machines as if they've been in Kirby's universe this entire timeEither Sakurai is fucking retarded or he's so autistic that he essentially rebooted Air Ride with Riders and is now its own universe, because LITERALLY where are any of the machines in any other Kirby game.
>>724436213So it's my fault for playing Kirby as intended?
>>724436284i thought we were talking about just the game itself coming back, not it coming back while having lore implications
>>724419232>>724419414>>724420984Time to dogpile on my own disdain for the ethereal ghosts in the shell that keep dickriding Kirby in ways that don't even remotely make sense (such as saying DEEP LORE BRO)it's Kirby, just play it NIGGER
>>724434384And yet this matters in no capacity. >>724434304And yet, there's still no sense of scale or world building to Kirby.
>>724436521Would Air Ride have come back without lore implications? It very easily could have. But they didn't.
>>724420984Only a retard who never seriously engaged with Kirby would think this braindead post holds any water. While Kirby lore isn't the most serious thing in the world, it sure as hell is significant to the overall story of each individual game along with how those games tie into each other. If you disregarded the lore of the pause screens, you would never know that Drawcia and Paintra were separated from birth, you wouldn't know it was Dark Meta Knight and the mirror world's influence that corrupted Sectiona, you wouldn't understand why Coily Rattler was created by the people of the sky, etc and that's just for Triple Deluxe. What makes the lore significant is not how dEEp it is but how it enriches the stories of the individual games and their connections without being overcentralized.Of course actual good writing flies over nu /v/'s heads because it's filled with morons who can't think critically now.
>>724436652ACKSHUALLY, those lore implications were there all along, on his twitter.
Explain lore behind Hydra and Dragoon. This is the only "lore" that ever interested me from any kirby game.
>>724436284>Either Sakurai is fucking retarded or he's so autistic that he essentially rebooted Air Ride with Riders and is now its own universeI think you yourself is looking into this too deep considering Sakurai also made everyone use copy abilities without much of a care. Unless you think that's canon too
>>724436284>where are any of the machines in any other Kirby game.Also, to be fair, most of the civilization we see in Kirby seems to be the boonies, with the exception of Robobot. We just haven't had reason to see people on their daily commutes.
>>724436728Oh how cute, he attached a picture to his effort post to make it complete.
>>724419414Its kinda true, but the thing is it shouldn't even be there.Somehow it's the only Nintendo franchise where the lore is slightly coherent with each game and some characters have a much darker backstory in a game with fucking lollipops as a powerup.Zelda should have that position comfortably and they completely fucked it, especially Myiamoto.Metroid is a complete mess thanks to Other M and Prime series.Donkey Kong is also weird, DKC 1-3 was progressing smoothly but the next games turned into a jumbled mess. Just look at Banaza and Pauline.So yeah, it's the only thing we Nintendo fans have regarding "coherent" lore.
>>724436863dumbass nigga
>>724436728>If you disregard the lore of the pause screensStopped reading here. I'm gonna give you a few minutes to think so you can try to understand how fucking stupid that concept is and how stupid you are to type that in an unironic, serious manner.
>>724426057>4 hours of STOP HAVING FUNYou are not wrong.
>>724421803Lol Nights lore is such a trip considering how much of a shit game it was and how so few people care about it.
>>724437214>STOP HAVING FUN AT TELLING PEOPLE TO STOP HAVING FUNJust let people enjoy themselves.
>>724436814Well yes, then it'd have to be a separate universe. Kirby is (as far as we know) the ONLY creature who could canonically use copy abilities. Meta Knight is SUPPOSEDLY the same species as Kirby, but even 20+ years later we STILL don't know, because if he was, why doesn't he also use it? Why does he use a sword? Why does he have wings that can fly? Why does he wear the mask!? I mean, he can very clearly pull it off himself or have it knocked off and it causes no pain... so he's obviously not too big for us to comprehend. But uh, we just have zero answers for this, so R2 must be its own thing. Even with how the opening presents itself, it makes it seem like the machines were there all along, have personalities, and their users constantly use them and entire cities, if not cultures and continents are built around them. So. Either Sakurai is retarded or he's autistic and wanted to control Kirby one last time in his own way.
>>724437297xD
>>724437032>The original post I replied to was about Kirby Lore has no real impact on anything.>I proved it does have an impact.>Instead of reading my post further to see what I mean, you out yourself as exactly the type of retarded faggot who is disparaged. /v/'s collective IQ is reaching room temperature levels. Don't you dysgenic failures have anything better to do with your lives?
>>724437338>Kirby is (as far as we know) the ONLY creature who could canonically use copy abilities.animal friends
>>724437447Dude, you're posting about how meaningful kirby lore is. Your life is worthless.
>>724437447He was going to disregard your post no matter the content.
>>724433393Kirby shouldn't have that point though, they need more development for the actual game.
>>724437523>Finding joy in simple, but well-crafted things means your life is worthless.Who hurt you?
>>724433695You don't want the golf demon to seal the world into holes?
>>724437481That makes even less sense. This series is not worth taking seriously and adding lore and taking it seriously just makes you look like an idiot.
>>724437523So what faggot? Kirby lore is cool. You being filtered by it is a testament to how retarded you are.
>>724437763>dude why do you just play this fun kids game and then move on? why not invest a huge part of your life into investigating it deeply like I amOk.
>>724437769it was established that the animal friends can use copy abilities because of their deep bond to kirbo
>>724437481I always figured that was Kirby and Gooey empowering their mount, like Kirby does with the Robobot later. Then some of those enhanced abilities just kinda stuck around, again, like the Robobot.
>>724426001>durr people should do something productivesays the guy shitposting on 4chan
>>724419232
>Kirby is a direct hard-counter to newfaggotryFunny.
>>724437878If you say so. >>724426001This is the funny part. Some of the retards here act like something is worth a damn, but if you can't measure up to Sonic or Dark Souls autism, then your series really has no substance to it. Where are the Kirby OCs? Where's Meta Knight's long lost twin brother that's red and black, Meta Samurai? Where's the human OCs that insert as Adeleine or have their own fanfiction? Where's my Chris Chan level schizos that utterly terrify the fanbase and get psyoped into a troon? You guys just have no substance.
>>724437848>Discussing a game online is deeply investing your life into it.Ok
>>724438121Alright, discord faggot.
>>724438346>discord out of nowhere4 hours of you having a tantrum, newfag nigger
>>724420984the same could be said for any game's world building, by that logic then any mature story with even the slightest bit of complex themes would be "kiddy shit" seriously name one story you like and it can be deconstructed in the exact same way.
>>724438434>makes random statement>seethes uncontrollably when someone calls him outLmao.
>>724438516>newfag buzzwordsdon't punch another hole in the drywall, newfag
>>724438549>the buzzword defenseYou are literally the original newfag.
>>724425437the whole kirby deepest lore thing started with kirby dreamland 3 when a bunch of retarded subhumans started proclaiming the series as ackshually deep and mature because the final boss of a kids game from 1997 dared show some red pixels on the screen
>>724438617>spams the thread for 4 hours with newfag buzzwordsdon't punch another hole in the drywall and get raped by your stepdad again, newfag
>>724437338>Kirby is (as far as we know) the ONLY creature who could canonically use copy abilities.yeah just ignore any of the soul fights that use copy powers, retard.
>>724422216I don't have to justify it. I've played these type of cartoony platformers my whole life in front of women I've dated because I don't care. And no one is frothing. I remember wondering why a kirby character had a giant eye crying blood and thinking that was pretty cool. That's it.
Megaman
>>724438648Go on, I want to see what else you add to the schizo cope of yours that will make you be able to sleep tonight.
Xeno lore would make the average Kirbyfag shit their pants Drakengard/Nier too
>>724437338>>724437481>>724438650don't forget the d20 of doom and gooey even
>>724438738>spams the thread for 4 hours with newfag buzzwordsdon't punch another hole in the drywall and get raped by your stepdad again, newfag nigger
>>724438774Let's go bro, another 4 hours any day.
>>724422893>Sure, it's not as crazy deep and integral to the series as people make it out to beNo one here is doing that
>>724438829You can't say that or you'll ruin the newfag spammer's narrative! Funny how he went from denying it in one post to admitting his spam immediately after. They all read off the same script.
>>724438637 You’re not wrong, but it didn’t help that HAL doubled down on that shit later. Every new Final Boss had to morph into a Lovecraftian eyeball god with some somber Latin chanting, and suddenly you’ve got schizos analyzing Gooey’s eyeball as a cosmic horror hint. It's not “deep,” it’s just a vibe shift - they wrapped cotton candy in ominous lighting and called it lore.
>>724430142>Doesn't matter what I think of myselfGood. Glad we agree you're not intelligent so don't act like it.
>>724438682>That's it.No, it's not. Kirby fans are on the level of The Sopranos and The Wire in terms of how complex and nuanced they are in the way that them seeing the blob monster at the end of FL and going "Damn, that was cool!" says more about their multi-layered personality and than an entire novel ever could. Sometimes, the curtains being blue means something, brainlet.
is this a falsefagger? he's successfully made the loreautists for the most shameless self-referential video game out there look rational
>>724439031>Kirby fans are on the level of The Sopranos and The Wire in terms of how complex and nuanced they are in the way that them seeing the blob monster at the end of FL and going "Damn, that was cool!" says more about their multi-layered personality and than an entire novel ever couldNo one here is doing that
>>724439076>the most shameless self-referential video game out thereThat would be Sonic
>>724438771also, morpho does use ultra sword for what that's worth.
>>724438992You're a bit stupid aren't you?
>>724438985>It's not “deep,”Who ever said it was?
>>724438985>suddenly you’ve got schizos analyzing Gooey’s eyeball as a cosmic horror hintGooey has been confirmed as a cosmic horror since DL3. That's just a fact about the character and nothing new.
>>724439124You're the one who said you aren't intelligent. Not me. inb4 LEL DAT WAS NOT MEE
>>724420984>derailed the entire thread and outed the autists with one single screenshotI kneel.
Why is it so hard to admit that your favorite game is for children and diaper wearing adults? I don't get why people that play video games need to save face. It's not like this is some corporate environment where you have to stretch your back.
>>724439097that's true, Kirbylore fans don't hold a candle to sonic autists that chimp out over arm color, dedede's design has changed like, 6 times now and nobody gives a fuck.
>>724419232Donkey Kong.
>>724439225Please stop acting like a child. It's embarassing.
Man some of you just get mad about nothing.Nobody makes it deeper than it has to be. Yes, Kirby is the emanation of a primeval god. Yes, one of his archrivals is another emanation of that same god, and that god was also an enemy at one time when it got filled with malice. It's not a puddle and it's not an ocean, it's just a story. There's no need to get bothered by what it is.
>>724439260man i love forgotten land’s DeDeDe. He’s such a chad
>>724439440>Yes, Kirby is the emanation of a primeval god. Yes, one of his archrivals is another emanation of that same god, and that god was also an enemy at one time when it got filled with malice.None of this matters thoughbeit.
>>724439440>story is just everyone is a godWhy is every creatively bankrupt game lore like this?
>>724439260I'll openly admit to not liking the design they used for the Returns Remake and Forgotten Land. But it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things because the design I prefer is in Air Riders. They're not gonna just stop using it forever.Don't talk to me about what they've done to DK's face. I'm still not over it.
>>724439242why are you so fucking desperate for someone's concession?
Kirby lore makes people seethe because it’s written in such a way that it pretty much covers all possible feats that Kirby may need to completely curb stomp their favorite franchises. It’s written to be the final “fuck you” to all powerscalers and deathbattling autists.That’s where all the seethe comes from.
>>724439541It matters in that Kirby has to be the same type of "being" as Dark Matter or else Dark Matter would just possess him and win instantly like it does to everyone else.Kirby is Heart Matter. That's the big secret and ultra deep lore. It's not that deep, but it's also not on display, and it does matter.
>>724439587Swearing just shows desperation.
>mushrooms and fire flowers>they were actually made by le ancients!!>on the pause screen of Petey Piranha EX some a line about how he given sentience has lived a life of eternal pain and suffering>Peach is actually descended from le ancients that did this to Petey who was once a normal Piranha Plant!!
>>724439681Well, if you say so.>>724438346>>724437032
>>724439745I wish Mario was cool like Kirby
>>724439745Star Children.
>>724439825Rules for you but not for the newfag spammer.
>>724439570I think most everyone will agree that DK design is shit, that's not an autist exclusive thing
>>724439745Mario Wonder would have legitimately been a more memorable game if Prince Florian was secretly Haru from that obscure movie and le evil twist villain, like people were speculating before release
>>724439745bitter bing bing fag spotted.
What a coincidence that these threads are always about "deep" lore and not "good" lore.
>>724439867Mario is the micky of nintendo he's not allowed to be anything more then a hollow mascot.
>>724439745>>724439867the bricks in super mario bros are actually toads who were turned into blocks by koopa that was my cool piece of super mario lore
>>724440053It's all good lore chief
>>724439867Based
>>724440164early Mario lore got retconned into oblivion.
>>724420984npbp
>>724438475>missing the point this hard
It's crazy how this thread is literally just 99% a typical /v/ cock fight thread with a little bit of kirby flavor. Might as well just generate threads with AI this point.
I'm glad Kirby fags are being clowned on. Over a decade of pretentious faggots circlejerking over the most basic corny flavor text in le heckin wholesome chungus hugbox. Kirby Star Allies as a game was steaming dogshit and no one would talk about that because of throwaway lines. Kumazaki has made nothing but mediocre forgettable games propped up by flimsy shit about the ancients or eldritch gods or whatever. No it's not that interesting.
>>724440367then tell me your favorite game/series/book.
How much is this nigga gonna seethe over Kirby and samefag his own screenshot of his own post? This is pretty embarrassing.
>>724439625Man it sure would be nice if the game presented this in a meaningful manner.
>>724439745You know what the funniest thing about this is? In the grand scheme of things, Kirby is just about as consistent as Mario. Dreamland's appearance keeps changing, Dedede's castle and appearance keep changing, stuff is constantly moved around and reorganized. The only difference is that Kirby still somehow treats its past with a bare minimum of respect and remembrance. "The Amazing Mirror is here again because Floralia is also up in the sky. Meta-Knight has The Halberd again because he salvaged it from the ocean towards the end of Squeak Squad." Even as far back as Superstar, they brought back the Fountain of Dreams as part of the ritual to summon Nova. They keep tabs on the state of the world and don't just throw everything out on a whim without actually havng a reason. Something like "Oh, the entire planet has been mechanized by alien invaders." They send Kirby new places, like other planets, and other dimensions, or even just some sky islands we've never seen before, and then they make up all the new crap they want without having to tear down the old stuff.
>>724440713I don't want to know how often you have posted so far. Get a life dude. Imagine seething so hard that people don't respect the lore of a game boy game. At some point your parents had expectations for you and you spend your day seething in the kirby lore thread.
>>724440713He said he'd spam for another 4 hours so 8 combined at least.
>>724440919Always with the projection.
>>724440559>a satanic death cult to a god of destruction willing to commit suicide to bring forth the end of days is "le hecking wholesome" according to /v/
>>724440713I miss the IP counter....
>>724439079You can't deride Kirby fans expressing their praise for its lore as a form of compensating for their insecurity brought on by liking a children's IP as adults and also claim that Kirby fans are one dimensional cartoon characters. "Insecurity" indicates multiple layers to a person and if you didn't intend to make us look complex, you should have opted for IS THAT A BASIC STAR SHAPE BUT WITH A RED EYE AHHHHHH NIGGERMAN SAVE ME posting.
>>724441104there's no rape, so yes
Is this thread really just one autist seething over the fact Kirby has lore?>B-But how does the lore impact the game?The same way lore impacts any game, it's a fucking video game you can ignore it
>>724441094This is what you're literally doing. How would you even feel better about your life even if others would do the same? I will repeat it. At some point your parents had actual hopes and dreams for you. But what they received is someone that gets angry at people disrespecting the lore of a game boy game and spending their free time defending it.
>>724441104Yes sweetie your Glorblestein McQuacker is very epic and has much hecking depth! This ain't your grandma's video games with the beeps and boops, this is real hardcore shit!
>>724441127Same anon, at least his posting style and habits make him easy to single out. They always think they're fooling someone.
>>724426231this thread wasn't created to discuss Kirby lore. This thread was created for people to seethe at Kirby lore's existence.
>>724441278His 2016+ buzzword spam and obsessive compulsive need to have the last word while turning everything into a debate with strawman rhetoric was an immediate giveaway. They all act the same and behave as if they are unique human beings unable to be predicted.
>>724441220>yoi can ignore it People just make themselves look stupid on the internet. For free! Why do I even have to try to dismantle arguments when you do it so easily to yourself? I'll just sit back and relax while you do the work and make it easier for me.
i do generally enjoy how chill kirby fans are.
>>724441247Type something new instead of continuing to project your own insecurities.
>>724426796Squak squad is one of the weaker platformers. If you enjoyed it you should try more
>>724441264That's not how Kirby fans speak. That's late 2000s to early 2010s era TV Troper language that nearly every children's entertainment media fandom engaged in that has since gone out of style that went extinct come post-irony era.
>>724441264so it's either hecken wholesome one second but then you move goal posts then it's edgy, so which is it?
>>724441383>so mad that you start making typo'suh-oh melty!
>>724441459I thought you said Kirby had depth. Can it not be both? Or were you just lying?
>>724439346>no argumentThat's what I thought moron
>>724441410If you're so proud then why not tell your parents how you spent your day? Getting angry at people not taking the lore of a children game seriously. Call them right now. You parents wanted grandchildren and this is what they received.
>>724440778If you were too stupid to get it then that's on you.
>>724441429So true, king. You are the epitome of knowledge and wisdom. Surely, no one has ever talked like this past the 2010s. They all distinctly went extinct and were never to be seen again... I tremble at your omnipotent foresight! Might you use that everknowing mind to foresee how you could get yourself some bitches?
>>724440537>Might as well just generate threads with AI this pointMore than 60% of 4chan posts are bots. How did you not already know this?
>>724441584This isn't one of your schizo sessions so quit talking to yourself.
>>724441158>You can't deride Kirby fans expressing their praise for its lore as a form of compensating for their insecurity brought on by liking a children's IP as adults and also claim that Kirby fans are one dimensional cartoon characters.I never said that
Assuming the lore schizos truly believe the people thinking deep lore shit is retarded, why keep endlessly replying? You must be incredibly low IQ by your own estimate, your own cope you have chosen to believe.
>>724441559I did, but you suggested it's one or the other all I did was point out your flawed argument.
>>724441602I did. They found the whole thing hilarious and said I was so smart for finding the time to run intellectual circles around you while also caring for them and keeping the household running as they are not physically able to. Great way to keep my brain active and remain in physical shape. Post weight.
>>724441838>still no argumentYour opinion is hereby discarded.
>>724429301Ah, the feminism tactic!
>>724441916I'm not even the same anon but you didn't even read his post right, you retard.
>>724441958>defaults to buzzphrasesConcession status?
>>724442065Discarded.
>>724441945Nah, I'm sorry. Having disabled parents suck. While it's unlikely you would have achieved anything regardless disabled parents legitimately will hold you massively back to achieve anything.
>>724441915at this point I'm just shit stirring the tard for (you)'s
>>724419232>Kirby Lore "Shiver Star"https://youtu.be/JlmzUEQxOvA?t=86
Here's MY question regarding Kirby games. Why the fuck is Meta Knight only ever shown without his mask in the early games??
>>724442094Said the grown man who lives with his mom
>>724442082Yes, your opinion is discarded. Thanks for agreeing. I win. :)
>>724442196Dis. Car. Ded.
>>724441656>bro if you don't PAUSE the game every time for your crumb of lore instead of having a game that actually cares about the story then it's just too smart for you How are you able to remember to breathe consistently?
>>724420984I don't know what is more embarrassing, that someone screencapped my shitpost or that some people actually are defending it.
>>724441420ok what's wrong with Squeak Squad? I didn't know people would hate a Kirby game as much as they do with Squeak Squadit's one of my favorite childhood kirb gaems, and yes I've played all the games that precede that one, my other favs are 64 and Return to Dreamland
>>724442152Is Meta Knight, Galacta Knight and Kirby the same race?
>>724442152Cause we don't fight him as often anymore, he's more of a grim ally than a rival.
>>724442172my parents have been dead for over two decades, barking up the wrong tree there pal.
>>724442272I'm sorry you were too stupid to get it. You're not even smarter than a child.
>>724441127>>724441278Why did they remove the ip counting anyway?
>>724442308>posts something that is against the rules>gets banned>"WHY DID THE MODS BAN ME?!?"it sure is a mystery.
>>724442308That's what you get for shit posting and having a melty
>>724442152doesn't his mask break in star allies
>>724442090Thanks for the condolences but nah, man. No parents are perfect but they gave me a great life and opportunities that not many others have and which will greatly help me in moving forward so it's only fair to assist them in their final years.
>>724442323Damn what are you fuckin 60 that's fuckin scary
>>724442410Shitposting is against the rules and this thread is still up so fuck off. Either we all get banned or none of us.
>>724442295>it's one of my favorite childhood kirb gaemsThere’s your problem: nostalgia
>>724442152it literally breaks in robobot, star allies and forgotten land, the fuck are you on about?
>>724442420Yep
At the end of the day anons like >>724436539>>724422216are right. There's nothing wrong with Kirby having a story, and sure what's there is somewhat interesting, but it's nowhere near what some overblow it to be or anywhere near the effort worth engaging with on a serious level. Is it interesting? Sure. But could it be done better? Absolutely. Yes, it's a kids game. That doesn't mean it couldn't have a story or one worth taking seriously. I'm pretty sure they only do this "beat around the bush" method to leave remnants of the story they WANT to tell, but can't because Kirby, by default (you literally cannot refute this) has an image of being a cutesy, wholesome franchise. That's an objective fact. Anything that could reasonably "alter" how it's viewed on a marketing level is what Nintendo doesn't want, but if the devs really gave a shit, they'd still find a way to do it that can satisfy everyone instead of this circle jerking yoko taro "the true story is in the japanese only radio drama" kind of shit. I'm also like 99% sure part of it is due to Sakurai's influence and not wanting Kirby to be a """""""story driven game""""""" and he cockblocks the franchise.
>>724442282What's funnier is that this is actually my post and seeing you lying so blatantly about it is actually fucking hilarious. Holy shit, are Kirbyfags really this desperate?
>>724442518>Shitposting is against the rulesIronic shitposting is against the rules. Sincere shitposting is encouraged.
>>724442543my man I've been replaying kirbs for a while and it hasn't been that long since I replayed Squeak Squad and I honestly don't see any problem with it, it's still fundo you hate Daroach is that why people hate Squeak Squad...
>>724442518low quality posting in this case refers to 'lol u tke him 2 da bar', not someone using english grammar correctly when talking about a video game in a way you personally dont like
>>724442337But enough about your crush trying to shut down your confusion on why she rejected you.
Is all the main lore covered in Adventure and Super Star, or do other games meaningfully add to it?
>>724442518jannies only clean up porn they don't give a fuck so long as the advertisers are happy.>>724442819my only gripe with that game is that it's too short.
>>724442819I remember liking Squeak Squad as well but it's been a long while since I played it. Mixing the powers was the coolest shit as a kid. But some of the levels aren't that amazing, if I recall. It's not bad, other games are just better. I don't think I came across anyone hating it.
>>724442856>shitposter went schizoI guess I'm not surprised
>>724443032I guess you were just too stupid to get it. Come back when you're older, kid.
>>724442819wait I think I figured it outis it because of the cake cutscene
>>724442858Yes all the mainline games do have something, most of the side games don't save for a select few of them from more recent times have stuff like super Kirby clash deluxe has stuff.
>>724442858Essentially all the "deep lore" that gets raved and besmirched left right and center in these threads is exclusively from Star Allies, centering around the primordial god Void, who may or may not have an intimate relationship with Kirby and Zero and a lot of other things.
>>724443171>Essentially all the "deep lore" that gets raved and besmirched left right and centerno one is doing that
>>724443209scroll up
>>724420984Woolie will NEVER recover from this
>>724443271I read the thread. You couldn't even point to a single post that wasn't just some shit post.
Ok kirb bros, is there an order I should play the games in or just release order?Should I play all the old ones like the GB kirbys dreamland?How do I fully invest myself in the lore?
>>724420984>le immortality is le cursehow to say youre retarded without saying youre retarded
>>724419232>OP clearly making a joke>everybody's somehow taking this seriously and fighting each other about Kirby lore of all fucking thingsDid I miss something or did half of /v/ forget to take their meds tonight? Nobody's looking to Kirby games for their story or the lore they carry, and any 'lore' is actually just a callback to a previous game. It's cheap shock value and nothing more so why are there over 300 posts of anon flinging shit at each other over something this insignificant?
>>724443171there's also forgotten land which has connections to the void stuff and the origin point of the ancients that built some crazy ass shit.
>>724443430Watching everyone you know and love die as time becomes a grain in an eternal desert as you're forced to do it again and again just to be lonely in the end isn't cursed bro?
>>724443429play them in order if you don't want spoilers
Anyone else gets that new captcha?
this thread made me play super star ultra
>>724443538plus even if your immortal, it doesn't mean your body/mind won't break down.
>>724443463Because some anons rightly called out how stupid it is to take seriously and many other autists came out the woodworks and believe that surely NOBODY can actually believe this, it must be ONE person! Despite the fact that many people can indeed hold the same belief. Now the autists are shitting themselves and one even tried to get the thread deleted, or something like that I assume, by posting Kirby vore porn. Yes, really. They're that fucking deranged. Ironically, only he got banned, which is funny.
>>724443538ahhh my pet cat died im going insaneeee
>>724443538dont worry, once youre no longer a child you too will be able to cope with loss and change
>>724443463>>724443674The irony of all of this by the way is that not a single person here who singled out the lore said they hated Kirby, at least as far as I read. No one said the games were bad. Who says you can't be a fan of something and criticize parts of it?
>>724443780are you really criticing it if you're calling the people who enjoy said lore retardedseems like a fit more than anything
>>724443767>>724443704>kirbyfags are also sociopathicCan't tell if you faggots are more insane than Xenofags or Sonicfags.
>>724443863nobody is more schitzo then Sonicfags, to think otherwise is folly.
>>724443842Seeing how you can't even spell criticizing, I think you made my point for me.
>>724443863i dont know how to tell you this but most people experience the death of a loved on in their lifetimes. you will very likely outlive your parents and everyone who is married has even odds of outliving their spouse. plenty of people bury their kids even. its sad. they survive.
>>724443963There is ALOT of seething typo's in this thread.
>>724443963so you realize that your criticing is just calling people stupid
>>724443974If you didn't have breakfast this morning, how would that make you feel?
>food analogy
>>724432646He deserves more.
>>724437897Will this cat be in the game?
>>724444226Answer the question.
>>724442295>ok what's wrong with Squeak Squad?Nothing, it's a very good game. It's just not as good as a bunch of other Kirby games. Kirby isn't like Sonic or mega man that have bad games mixed in with the great ones. The whole series has a pretty high baseline of quality.
>>724419232That's blatantly a Precursor statue.
>>724444372im not that anon, i don't have anything to do with you.
>>724443974Yeah but thing is, you'll outlive everything, there will be nothing left but to drift in endless entropy and that's being generous, immortal doesn't mean you don't feel pain or your body won't falter leaving you a vegetable and if people found out they'd use you a lab experiment or weapon, no matter how you slice it no good can come of that.
>>724442685Most rational post in this thread
>>724420984This but for like Undertale or Deltarune or whatever that 2D pseud trash is
>>724433695No one cares about golf in 2025 bro
>>724444615You can't accurately disparage something you've never played, anon.
>>724444638Didn't they put out another Hotshot Golf and some indie golf game recentlt?
>spammer is a UT/DR fagLOL
>>724427194Just make cutscenes dude. It's not that hard. Like continuous cutscenes. Not just the random voiceless 3D sfm you saw in older Kirby games. Use them to build context. Have a story. Let the characters speak and be dynamic. It's not that complicated.
>>724442685if that were true, why didn't he give a fuck about the dark matter trilogy? air riders proves he is just fine with the story/lore, not to mention brawl's story mode, that shit has been long debunked at this point.
>>724444872we already have that
>>724443116The only thing wrong with this cutscene is that people used to go>Kirby kills gods for cakez!!!!Not remembering that the "god" in this game (A nigga in a chest) is one of the most dogshit final bosses in like every regard
>>724444920>why didn't he give a fuck about the dark matter trilogy Uh, he did. That's why there was barely any representation from non-sakurai kirby games in smash LOL >brawl's story modeYou mean the mode where he has, on record, said he felt insulted or some shit about the fans uploading it online and it's the reason we never got a full fledged story mode again? No World of Light doesn't count, it's basically a discount Adventure Mode from Melee, yes I'm angry Ultimate didn't have a story mode because that is LITERAL MONEY BEING THROWN AWAYI WANTED MY SIMON/RYU/BAYONETTA/SONIC INTERACTION GODDAMNIT
>>724444959Not true thoughbeit
>>724445180robobot, star allies, and fl have cutscenes with dialogue.
>>724420984trvke
>>724443674>posting Kirby vore pornkek that's every game
>>724444139but i didnt have breakfast
>>724445082my guy, he literally ripped off zero 2 and dark matter in ultimate basically verbatim.
>>724445245Only RBB falls under that.
>>724445452I rest my case.
>>724445519forgotten land even has voice acting, you best be trolling.
>>724445519>mage sisters>hyness>elfilin>the english speakercom>leongardon't do that /v/ thing where you get uselesly autistic about what you mean. by your definiton, these are characters that set the story and have dialogues with characters like kirby/amongst themselves.
>>724419414Thread should have ended here
>>724420984brutal
>>724439440That's pretty cool DESU.
>>724420984i'm wanna have a a seething rant that is immortalized by manchildren...
>>724419414Fucking manchildren
>>724420984kirbyxisters...
>>724445245>>724445601>>724445703They all have pause screen lore. Doesn't count.
>>724442282>>724442785Actual poster here. I typed it out on a whim while walking down the street.
>Kirby games have some nods to other games and flavor text on their origin story sometimes>meant to be cool little nods to cater as fan service and little 'heh that guy in the past game? he's a robot now. isn't that neat?' 'oh that butterfly? it was secretly a cool warrior, isn't that cool'?>ah yeah HAL you are a cool company always thinking of the fans>some person online: DUDE THE KIRBY LORE IS SO DEEP, LIKE IT SPANS ACROSS MULTIPLE GAMES BRO YOU DON'T GET IT AAAAAAAA>some other person: YOU STUPID KIRBY MANCHILDREN AND YOUR STUPID LORE, ITS NOT DEEP, SHUT UP ABOUT MUH LORE YOU DUMB ASSHOLES>insert bickering and arguing for 50 posts straight
>>724446960Still has cutscenes with dialogue that builds up the story, meltycuck. Pause screen lore does not cancel undermine those cutscenes.
Why do people here never mention that kirby is the strongest character in fiction despite all the dbs powerlevel wank on here?Who can beat kirby in fiction?
>>724447052>autistic spergs yell loudly>reasonable person tells them to shut up The reasonable people are right.
>>724429080Zelda makes some of the most interesting use of interactive storytelling in all of gaming. It would be legitimately immature to be unable recognize this.
>>724447161If they had a good writing team they'd find a better way to convey the subtle details.
>>724437523>Your life is worthlessSo does the modern anon actually think like this, i.e. like a normalfag, or is this just one, long, tiresome troll I am expected to endure? I just want to know if the people up in arms about other people being too invested in Kirby Lore are sincere in their gay fag mindsets.
>>724447318zelda (aside from TOTK) has some of if not the greatest stories ever told in gamingpeople think because it isnt LE SUPER DEEP and has a very basic good vs evil plot that its bad but its also full of some of the most memorable and kino story moments in gaming. It also is a coming of age story which everyone can relate to and make it extra kinobut the best part is that zelda has souls story telling in a way without getting rid of the actual story cutscenes or adding item descriptions to make 90% of the story. Zelda uses environmental storytelling instead of lore books like in elder scrolls and other RPGs. Theres also lots of speculation in the storiessad nobody notices this. Nintendo games dont really have consistently good stories but zelda does
>>724439745It's funny you say shit like this when the Paper Mario series (before it went to shit) wasn't that far from this.
>>724420984>>724419232So lore tidbits are non-canon? Are they tied to some in-game properties?Like in Doom, "Doom Slayer" became canon only after Doom 2016, before that, lorewise, he was a regular marine. Just could run 60 km/h with fully equipped combat gear.
>>724447547So first it was>i want cutscenes so that the story is blatant and conveyed without pause screens so that it could be more meaningfulnow its>i want something less blatant because i consider that good writingwhat is it, anon? unless you're just someone else butting in.
>>724442819Squeak Squad isn't bad, but there's little it offers that aren't presented better in other titles, both before and after. Daroach is probably the best thing to come from it.
>>724447739Yes, I completely agree with you on every point, especially with how much more advanced it it about actually incorporating thematic/story into the actual world you experience, instead of just making them 'background lore' that exists as context-less text dumps.You really have to pay attention to this stuff when hacking/modding the games if you want to keep things in line with what's actually going on in them.
>>724436931Zero 2 was a thing during the Evangelion craze in Japan, the creator wasn't even mask hero samurai.
>>724448032I've noticed in several posts there are anons like you who somehow only think in extremes and somehow seem to lack comprehension and critical thinking. It is... very strange. I haven't really seen it this much in a single thread, unless you're somehow the same person each time it happens. Point being that you're an idiot. Maybe you should pick up a book or something.
>>724421026It's very simple but it's still fun, it's just an old fashion stupid fun video game to kill time with, the way games are supposed to be
>>724421026It's the easiest Kirby game I've played. There's a new dodge with i-frames that trivializes most of the game. Still fun though, and I don't regret playing it
>>724442858amazing mirror has some of the most important contributions, ironically
>>724420984nintendies mercilessly slaughtered in the streets
>>724419414OP status: [RAPED]
>>724449559you should probably stick to a lane, is all im saying
>>724442858The deep lore started in return to dreamland with Magolor naming the halcandryans.
>>724450396You should probably grow some braincells.
>>724446960forgotten land doesn't have pause screen lore, you'd know that if you had actually played it.
>>724450854It has the gacha descriptions. Those count. You retard.
>>724450891but you only said pause lore so it doesn't :)
>>724437338>>724438771>>724438650Forgetting somebody?
>>724451179technically he copies enemies so I'd say that wouldn't count.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand the Kirby series. The storytelling is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the events of previous games most of the lore will go over a typical player's head
>>724451434My brother in banana
>>724447739>Zelda stories>good"you are the chosen one"over and over isn't good story telling.
>>724447262>toonforce>shoenen protagonist BS>friendship >absurdly adaptable, effectively can use any power imaginable.>has stopped planet busters and universal threats>capable of planet destruction himself>has cheated death itself and can use it's power as his own>capable of creating beings of great power out of thin air>still able to take down some of the most powerful video game characters while nerfed for balance reasons.Not very many he'd be a planet buster at minimum, multiverse threat level at most there isn't that many characters with that kind of potential outside of absurd pop-eye or isukai protags.
>>724452051>over and over isn't good storytellingBut enough about Kirby games.
>>724421441>he other to create an entire interplanetary tech company under the guise of a supercomputer.except that was NOT Galactic Nova.That was a completely different unrelated clockwork star.There are multiple of these fuckers in the universe.Nova and StarDream are just two.
>>724421913People are genuinely mad a game about a cute pink born gets ton of care and love and thought from its creators over the IPs they enjoy.It's pure seething malding faggots.
>>724452850>gets ton of care and love and thought LMAO
>>724450071Play Epic Yarn if you want an easier one getting true 100% can actually be annoying though cause you gotta get every bead
>>724426138I quite enjoy the lore and was looking forward to a fun Kirby thread.Why do you insecure niggers need to shit up every thread with your faggotry?Go discuss one of your 'le ebin mature gaymes' if you are so cool you dickless loser.But you aren't.You never do.Because you are a joyless fuck and need to try and push your misery on everyone else.Seek help.
>>724429563Actual answrrt, because everyone else is a nigger.It's the Ancients.A long last race of humans who captured Elifis the main antagonist in Forgotten Land.Studied him to gain dimensional warp tech then left their home planet due to a doomsday prophesy.They eventually made multiple clockwork stars/NOVAs.We know two.Galatic Nova from Super Star and now also Air Riders.And StarDream from Planet Robobot. That Haltmann found half finished and tirelessly worked to finish construction on to bring back Susie his daughter.The answer on how they are powered isn't known yet but likely tied to the incredibly magic power wielded by Hyness' people, due to the Heart Cores every NOVA possesses...and Hyness/Void Termina work off weird mystic hearts.
>>724430325I want axe knight to become relevant again so we get Axe/Viking Kirby.But Sword and Blade are cool minions yes.>>724430380>and Nightmare was also one of them who had a little too much fun learning about Void Termina from the Jamba Cult.This is a fun idea, I like this.
>>724432117What would you do with a Meta Knight spin off? DMC clone? something like xcom/mario+rabbids?Dedede being some grand strategy conquest game?Give me your ideas.>>724432303Didn't Sakurai make Kirby's Adventure? It had a fair bit of lore. As did Super Star.And Air Riders looks to have a ton.Don't be a shitbag trying to divide this fanbase you cunt.
He solos your favorite game's entire verse and there's nothing you can do about it.
So, Kirby is just an eldritch entity God thing, right?
>>724434127jew egg adding a minigolf course to his amusement park would be ludo though, you gotta admit.I approve of this idea.
>>724453931How does Kirby solo everyone in Kirby's universe?
>>724454025he beat the everloving shit out of Shadow Kirby
>>724436802Made by the Ancients as well.They need sick ass rides too ya know.
>>724453909Dedede spin off would be a golf game where he hits gordos around with his hammerMeta Knight I'm not sure, I just want the Halberd and its crew back
>>724451434You're just bitter that you aren't a banana brother.
>>724437338>, because if he was, why doesn't he also use it? Why does he use a sword?Leave Meta Knight alone!He's just a sword autist. He didn't do nothin wrong. never harmed a fly.
>>724419232>>724420984>make the *exact* same barebones identical indie-game tier platformer for 33 years>everyone jizzes their pants because it's made by japanese>"shit this got boring 30 years ago, but it prints money">sprinkle in some self referential niche slop as easter eggs so you don't dissociate and massacre your countrymen like ryu hayabuse>easter eggs pile-up as gaijin jerk eachother off over japanese media (like they always do)>some anon gets REALLY mad at gaijin for behaving like gaijin (i.e. retarded cattle)>gaijin do not like this
>>724420984truer wordsnever spoken
I like marx.Never beaten his game but I like that hes a cute jester fella whose secretly a mischievous but intelligent schemer
>>724438205But why did he do it?Surely there was another option.>>724438121It's very funny indeed.People are so stuck up on this childish notion of what an '''adult''' is they just ruin their lives and ability to enjoy things.So sad.
>Every dead character has returned except DrawciaITS JUST NOT FAIR
>>724454105But could he beat himself and also shadow kirby?
>>724454415isnt sectonia also super dead?
>>724439076I honestly wouldn;t be shocked if this is SeaLionTranny, aka actranny.He's a worthless shit cunt ruining /v/ for 15+ years now.
Kirby Gijinka fills my soul but I never have anywhere to post it..
>>724442295Squeak Squad's a perfectly fine game, it's just very short. The last time I played it, I think I 100%ed it in two hours.Most other Kirby games give you a meatier experience, at the very least. Something like Super Star Ultra on the same system has a lot more content to sink your teeth into.
>>724441220The fact this nigger keeps saying>>B-But how does the lore impact the game?tells me its SeaLionTranny.It's his go to way of posting in Metroid, Zelda, and Xenoblade threads.He always feigns to be interested or curious, or open to discussion.Yet is just a spiteful loathesome cur that needs to be fucking ignored.Which you fags refuse to do even after 15 years.I guess Air Riders finally broke this pathetic loser in regards to Kirby.These threads WLL become a toxic shithouse like the IPs listed above if you don't ignore him.Stop replying.Stop taking bait.Let him samefag.Report his ass.
>>724454451OK I ADMIT IT.I just want to see Drawcia again.
>>724442295Basically just short and no sub games unlike most Kirby games.It's still great, just not as great as the other entries.We need animal back though.
>>724454770Kirbyfags really just make up schizos, huh...
>>724443429Release order is best of you don't want to be spoiled yes.You can skip super star and do super star ultra.same for return to dreamland, play the Switch remake once you hit that point.As for spin-offs should at minimum play mass attack, canvus course, rainbow curse, kirby clash delux, and kirby figters2.
>>724447739TotK lore is perfectly fine anon.Don't be such a whiny bitch.
>>724451434absolutely cursed teeth on mookie.but cute adopted siblings.
>>724454165so what? something starfox esque for Meta Knight?Captain Vull is ROB64, and you can pick which Metaknight you play as on missions as they patrol the galaxy stopping incoming threats?Could be cool.Dedede's Golf Championship is an interesting idea.
>>724420984I'm glad my post got so many autistic idiots screeching and going to such lengths they're willing to believe that I'm just samefagging, and a namefag, when I barely posted in this thread. I think we can call today's mission a success. For the record, I like Kirby. But it's really nothing worth wasting your time and effort over. Seeing people who get unironically heavily into it reminds me of how My Little Pony tards are typically fully grown men. Which I mean, it's fine, to a point... so long as you don't indulge in it to an obnoxious degree and make it a personality trait. But they did, and that's why they got rightfully ostracized. So it's kinda like that. Point being that no one would care if you idiots had a modicum of self awareness and realize you're praising up and down a game starring a pink blob whose gimmick is literally eating enemies and blowing stars at them which is made for japanese women and children everywhere. It's fine to like Kirby. But you need to know what the fuck you're saying when you suddenly try to present it as something it isn't. Because when you don't, and keep doing it, don't be surprised when people push back against it and call you out. Nintendofags in general receive this because they're all typically obsessive to a cultish degree (like you guys) but Kirbyfags in particular can stand out for being particularly annoying. Have some self awareness. It's a fucking video game made for kids and sometimes he does cool things and the story isn't worth taking seriously. It's really not that hard to enjoy something for what it is. Try it sometime. Anyway, thread's over, so I'm done here. I got my good share of laughs and it was reassuring to see others agree with me. Later, faggots. Enjoy the lingering malding while you go to bed.
>>724454907no one buys your shit actranny.you've plagued this fucking board for a decade and a half.I just won't have your faggotry discredit Armored Core, thus call you SeaLionTranny, as that is all you do.Use sealion tactics.Inbred nigger.
>>724441104Yes. Kirbyfags always acted with smug superiority over other Nintendo fandoms. Look at us with wholesome chungus games absolutely no bad video games in this series no drama no infighting no schizos.
>>724455491No one knows who you're talking about lil bro.
I don't get it. Why is it bad to separate gameplay and lore?
>>724455609sounds like a skill issue.
>>724456450Who said it was bad?
>>724456537People got so mad over it that this thread hit bump limit.
>>724455480> Have some self awareness. It's a fucking video game made for kids and sometimes he does cool things and the story isn't worth taking seriously. And who are you to decide that?, what’s wrong with being passionate about our hobbie and all its elements including lore?, you sound like both a tool and a fag who eats their Cheerios with piss.
>>724455480It's really no different than devoting your life to studying LotR.
>>724456574I fail to see any post in the thread saying a separation of either was a bad thing... and I'm not sure why you're making this complaint either. It seems redundant and counterintuitive to making a good game. >>724456615There's not enough time (or desire) for ke to explain why you have an incorrect perception of what I said so I'm just gonna say you need to grow up. Video games are digital toys. There's a difference between passion and blind obsession with praise... maybe one day you'll figure it out.
>>724456678Well that's just silly and stupid.
>>724456747>There's not enough timeWe're not on page 10 yet, do it.
>>724456747People either play with toys or get drunk in their free time. There's nothing else to do, unless you think that the point of free time is to just improve your body so you can do more work (be a better wagecuck for the sake of someone else).
>>724456850Not really. If your book contains wizards, elves, dwarves and dragons, it's a children's book. Shouldn't be hard to understand.
>>724456537>>724456747It's fucking actranny you dumb fuck.Is this your first day on /v/?You should know better otherwise
>>724456913I meant devoting your life to it. But to an extent, it could be, but it depends on the content within the story. I never read LOTR and watched the movies when I was a kid, but it seems more like a young teen/adult kind of thing. There is SOME level of maturity to it. It's basically a western shonen, but just around teenagers. I wouldn't say it's on a toddler level like Kirby.
>>724457225being devoted to anything is fucking retarded, people will betray you and concepts are a waste of time
>>724457342>>724457342I wouldn't go that far. That's why you just need to be selective of the things you like and critical of what you don't like. That's why even if people say I'm "negative" or "don't like anything", I know they're just full of shit. I'd rather have a strong sense of standard than just consume anything mindlessly. But it does make it hard to find something you DO like entirely, which for me is very, very few. Probably a majority of things are things I like with an asterisk of what I don't like about them/what could be better. I think that may be the norm though, which SHOULD be normalized. Not a lot of the things you like will be flawless. That's why you should strongly analyze the things you do come to like a lot, so you can actually believe and have merit to liking it wholeheartedly.
>>724455480Anon came,He saw,He posted, He gathered (you)s. Today shall be known as the day the Kirbyfags were woken up to the truth, spoken by a lord of wisdom from ages past...
