>hyper-intelligent>immortal>everyone given access to hive mind>complete equality>reality bending technologyWhy were they the bad guys again?
>>724422446I too think we should support Israel because Jews have a slightly higher IQ than most Arabs.
>>724422446They are not human, so they are evil.
>>724422446There is no everyone. You just get deleted and your biomass is incorporated into the wider flood.
>>724422446No goals or society. No culture, no creations, no legacy. The flood expands without reason or thought and it would not exist without sentients to fuel it. Also fuck off and crash into the sun space-nigger-simp. Space belongs to Humanity. Get out of it.
>>724422632>>724423572Humans are greedy and hateful. The Flood is peaceful and forward thinking.>>724423468That's demonstratably not true. The Prophet of Regret was still alive inside the Flood hive mind.
Seriously?
>>724424323Thats retarded.
>>724424323This is just a bad explanation of how neural physics work. Which to be fair is basically magic, but advanced stage Flood is effectively a god.
>>724424746but what does the Flood gain by wiping out all life, and presumably itself?
>>724424221If the Flood is so peaceful why does it have to rip open my ribcage, enter my chest, take over my nervous system, liquefy my organs, use the resulting mass to make my limbs into weapons, then use my body to kill other people?
>>724424805>>724424882All other life is hostile to the Flood. It's self defense.
>>724424805Retarded nu-lore makes the flood the degenerated bodies of the extra ancient species the Prometheans overthrew and kicked out of the galaxy. They were so butthurt that they turned themselves into the flood in a fit of rage, deciding that if they can't be masters of the universe, no one can.
>>724424954Bullshit, the Flood attacked first.
>>724424805Does it because it can. Why the hell not ruin it all
>>724425017>The first flood outbreak happened because ancient humans used the flood as space dogfood.Trannies will actually defend this lore btw
>>724425413That actually shows why the Flood had to defend itself, Humans literally tried to eat it.
>>724425572Humanity tries to fight, fuck or eat everything eventually. Flood was just mad the first option was eat.
>>724424323Which lore about the Flood is more stupid, this one or Halo Studios's, don't be a shill about this meaning don't suck Bungie or Halo Studios off answering this question?
>>724422446When someone is infected by the flood, they usually die outright then and there, for those who don't die immediately, they suffer a fate worse than death where every memory is stripped away in as tortorous a means as possible, and then they die anyway. The Gravemind isn't called that for no reason, it's not a living collective of everyone it has absorbed, it's a single mind born exclusively from death and suffering with nothing but stolen thoughts and memories.
>>724424882Have you considered that you are ontologically evil therefore no action the Flood takes against you can be wrong?
>>724423572This. The Flood isn't even capable of FTL travel by itself, it needs to comandeer existing ships to spread from system to system.
>>724422446>Why were they the bad guys again?Basically everything you just mentioned.
>>724422446>Hyper-intelligentLol.Lmao.>ImmortalNope.>Equal access to the hive mindEqual access to having their consciousness consumed by it.>Complete equalityEquality implies the existence of more than one will.>Reality-bending technologyYet all of its bodies still look like absolutely abhorrently revolting.
>>724427473Depends, because Halo studio's/343i comes with the "forerunners are different from ancient humans: baggage.If we ignore that part that utterly guts a major plot point Bungie wrote, I'd honestly say thatThe stuff about how ancient people accidentally caused a galactic outbreak because they didn't know enough about the parasite and the Flood used that ignorance to quietly embed itself among that entire people's civilization is pretty interestingFuck it I'll even say that the single decent scene of the canceled garbage TV show was a flood spore infected human (a form that doesn't mutate as quickly) going around and infecting a bunch of other scientists in a montage of that scientist's daily routine was genuinely a well produced scene
>>724432563>ImmortalThis one is actually true. The Gravemind is impossible to kill because once a flood outbreak reaches a certain level, he just comes back, and there are a ton of flood still in forerunner containment facilities, and who knows where else. His own words after 08 is activated indicate as much.
>>724422446>I am a monument to all your sinsWhat did he mean by this? Bungie Halo of course, I don't care what twisted explanation 343i shit out
>>724433384> But if flood biomass exists elsewhere then the gravemind is transferred into itThat isn't immortality.Biomass bleeds. If it bleeds it can die.Destroy every piece of biomass that exists.The Gravemind is kill.
ManI love HaloI wish it was still well written
>>724433530The devs actually didn't mean anything specific by it, they just thought it sounded really cool. It can be interpreted as a biblical reference to the Flood being unleashed on humanity by god for their sins, what that means in the Gravemind's case could be that the forerunners are responsible for the Flood in some way.
>>724424323>Hey Sandy I hope you are well.>That's not quite right with how things went down, although I didn't have any involvement in this at all I know you're a pathological liar that has more shit in him than brains.>Hope that clears things up.>Romero xx
>>724433530What's meant by it is obviously>Humans are forerunner>Gravemind is the legacy to the forerunner's sins>forerunners did something bad that resulted in the flood
>>724433973Dont worry, there's a whole two seasons of the tv show for you to enjoy.
>>724422446Because it was the embodiment of hatred after the extinction of their species
>>724424323>if you become too smart you will be able to will the big bang into existence and destroy the universe and yourself which you WILL do because you just will, ok?Least retarded Halo lore.
>>724424323yeah im gonna ignore that because thats dumb
>>724424323>The reason the Forerunners destroyed the galaxy was that they realized that the Gravemind wasn't the Final Stage of the Flood.They could have stopped here and left the implications to your imagination
>>724436950I'm starting to think the Humans are not Forerunners lore is better.
>>724437124That would have been for the better
>>724424805>create new universe as (you) want itWhy not do this? Serious answers only.
>>724436023Don't forget to buy the latest in Xbox line before watching Halo, the TV series
>>724437480Assuming you have any control over how the next one goes when you've annihilated yourself.
>>724437586They've got magic physics or whatever, why wouldn't they be a copy of the Galactic AC?
>>724437715Do you even know the meaning of the word "assume"??
>>724422446mmm yes subsume my mortal soul, vanish my consciousness into a mass of seething hatred literally designed from scratch to be a mechanism of nihilistic vengeance against the entire universeClearly this is a superior mode of existence because it is more intelligent
>>724422446they ugly
Anyone have that one image of how religion influenced the writing of Halo?
>>724422632Most humans are evil though
>>724422446>hates humans>hates covenant>hates clankers>hates any living thing that isn't itselfBased.
>>724437971It's a retarded worm lmao halards really think this is intimidating??
>>724437906To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand cosmic vengeance.
>>724438381Understanding why the Flood are unnerving requires being an ensouled individual. Hylics wouldn't get it.
>>724424323>big bang attackFlood is vegeta?
>>724437101What's even more retarded is why would the Forerunners make the Halo rings to reset the universe if the Flood is just going to do that anyway with a big bang? It's retarded.
>>724438453Just take some ivermectin or something lel, worm's gone and the flood's dead
Is flood unbeatable? Someone told me when they get strong enough they start building star bridges or something
>>724424323Remember guys, don't become TOO intelligent or else you will create the big bang!
>>724422446What defines humanity, for better and worse, is our individual minds, and our struggles. If we are all under one mind, and this one mind guides us all to prosperity, we are no longer human. We are whatever the one mind is. Simple as.
>>724424323>>724424482>>724427473>>724436950>>724437124I don't think they mean that their sheer will/intellect warps reality (like they do in 343i lore) and causes a new big bang, just that they reach an intelligence singularity like AI singularity theories and that allows them to develop tech to do itEither way I like cosmic horror reality warping flood desu, but you need to actually read the forerunner novels to apperciate it, like a lot of things 343i did with the flood and forerunners it really only works in the context of greg bear's incredible writing
>>724424323>>724424482>>724427473>>724436950>>724437124Don't waste your time with the Forerunner novels.
>>724440449Contact Harvest, Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx. That's all you need.
>>724440624I was charmed when I tried the arcade Halo game with my friends at a bowling alley, and had 20 year old middle school memories rush back as I recognized some of the characters and locations from The Flood novel.
>>724440449I have a better idea, I won't waste my time with any Halo novels, not even ones written by Joseph Staten.
>>724422547>slightly
>>724440846Also I remember that in 6th grade one of my buddies did his final project book report on The Flood. He hadn't read the book, just knew that it was a novelization of CE. Got up and did his entire presentation just reciting the events of the campaign. Mrs Turner was so impressed by how vividly he could describe and interpret everything he "read" and so he got an A+, the little fucker.
>>724437781did you know that it's not real, and that you can't assume something false about an unwritten fictional world?
>>724442290Only when you're the author.
>>724440882Fair. I never liked Contact Harvest much anyway.
>>724424323Sandy Petersen worked on Halo????
>>724424323To be fair, Peterson is known to be wrong about tons of shit. I wouldn't take anything he claims as accurate.
>>724443181Hope he's doing well.
>>724443093He was with Ensemble Studios at the time which did Halo Wars back in 2009 I think.
>>724443181Lmao, that's not just being wrong, he's a compulsive liar or has mixed up his actual memories with imagined versions over the years.
>>724433976>the writers didn't mean anything by it except for this thing that it obviously means
>>724424323>there are retards who still shit on halo for being "baby's first fps"they're so cluelessly hypocritical
>>724443423They literally said that line didn't mean anything deep
I actually enjoyed Infinite's single player
>>724443513I don't believe you.
>>724443513>this line with obvious and open meaning does not have deeper meaning
