Is anything over 1440p a meme?
>>724423276Everything over 1440p and 60fps(120 fps for snap movements, but you dont "consciously" see them you can just react to it) is a meme yes
>>724423530The human eye cant see any more than 720p 20fps. Let me guess. You need more because youre special?
>>724423530120fps is neat for monitors Because it can display a smooth 40fps, which is way better than 30fps
>>7244232764k is truly incredible.
>>724423276I like this, I wish we discussed this way. The 10ft part is where I think it may break down.
>>724423747When and why would you want a smooth 40 fps?
>>724423596i have special eyes
>>724424107Get out of here Mantis Shrimp. This place ain't for you!Fag thinks he can punch so he owns the interwebs.
Old fun meme but no, mostly because crt beam simulation requires 4K and 480hz+ OLED to be equivalent to proper CRTs in motion clarity and response time.
>>724424010When your GPU runs a game at ~45-55 FPS and you get autistically annoyed at the inconsistency.
>>724423276this is false and innacurate informationin order for it to be true, they would have to do world wide study and find the cases that have better eyesite to be considered "non-human"
>>724423596Idiot, the human eye can't see more than 60fps at 480i.
>10 feet awayHow many people here sit 10 feet away
>>724424735So what is the limit?
>>724423276fps matters way more than resolutionupscaling is cancer
>>724424868Huh?https://www.reddit.com/r/TVTooHigh/
>>724423276I'm perfectly content with 1080p
Why are you looking at screens from 10ft away?
>>724424813What
>>724423276>scientists conduct experiment proving that you can't tell the difference between resolutions when you look at a screen 800 yards awayYeah no fucking shit.
Nice PPD poorfags
>>724425063>>724425130do you poorfags not have a full home theater for gaming?
>>724423276The human eye can't anything more than 480i and 20fps. That's literally why they're called "480(eye)" and "20/20 vision."
>>724423276>Anon citing a literal AI articleGood job retard.
>>724425090>investigative marksWhy would you save that?
I support this bullshit study solely on the premise it might trick coping poorfags into finally replacing their obsolete 2010 tech 1080p monitors with 1440p.
its another poor people threadai yah when will they end
>>724423276It is. Most media isn't available in 4k yet or relies on AI slop and upscalling to work at that resolution with half-assed results.
>>724426007say that to the 4k and 8k jav i just downloaded
>>724423276It depends on the screen, for game monitors, anything above 1440p is a meme, yes
>>724423276Yep. I've noticed that for me at 4k .85% resolution there's no visual difference to native 4k - just free performance
>>724426069How big are file sizes on 8k vids? I have a lot of 6K VR JAV vids, and they're fucking massive.
>>724423276>10 feetIf you're more than 3 inches from your monitor you're not really gaming.
>>724426112I used 1440p for 10 years and I have 4K now. It's not a meme, but it's also not a huge step up from 1440p. Only do it if you have extra money because you'll be paying a pretty penny for just a little bit better resolution. Plus your GPU needs to be able to handle it and that's usually more expensive.
>>72442353060 vs 120 fps is very noticeable.
>>724423747144 then play at 72 you mean
>>724423276Technically you could get away with rendering less than 1080p for the center of view and render at much lower resolution for the rest of the image. Human eye literally cannot see the detail except for the very center of view. Color vision is not retained past 10 degrees.>inb4 why do you see color thereReality as you perceive it is close to a hallucination, most of the things being hallucinated while your senses only update the internal model of reality. The color you see on the edges of your vision is a prediction that your brain makes.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8789243/Retina can't capture much of the detail in peripheral vision because only the center has individual neuron fibers for the color vision cells and the further you go from the center the more cells get connected to a single fiber, with peripheral vision having B/W light intensity data from multiple cells per fiber.
>>724426069>8k javI kneelI shrink my 1080p javs to save space
>>724424868This article is talking about Consoles
>>724426629in other words, i see color beyond 10 degrees
>>724425063>>724424868consolecucks do
>>724426275like 60-80 gigsthe 4k stuff is like 20-40 gigs
>>724426629>retard thinks his eyes are stationary and only look at the center of a screenbruh
>>724426708>shrinking file sizebut then you can't see the goosebumps on her ass
>>724423276>at 10 feetThat's a longer distance than a lot of living room TVs. You're thinking theater distance at that point, though I'd imagine that you can tell the difference depending on the size of the display (large enough that it can't fit fully within your field of view) even at greater distances.
>>724425090I need some pictures for my folder, please share some.
>>724423276Doesn't this depend on the size and aspect ratio of the screen?
>>724427115I actually like SD porn since it helps cover up the awkward realism(voeyeurism might be the better word?) or shitty acting. 60fps is usually fine though.Sometimes I keep them at 1080p though.
4k is not a meme for shaders but 1080 is enough for everything else360hz is not a meme and anyone saying otherwise has not experienced it.
>>724427065No, in case of systems that track eyes like you can already with laser trackers you could adjust the resolution of the render to only render what your eye actually sees instead of rendering whole image that you don't technically see at full resolution anyways. VR can already do that, there are goggles that can track where you look so the game can render full detail where you actually look and the rest of the image is rendered at lower resolution to save resources so you can render the game at higher framerate. In VR framerate is actually crucial part of the game design and the VR game has to run at 90+ FPS, have low latency etc. This could extend to normal games you play on your PC and get higher framerate while sacrificing basically nothing regarding the perceived image.
>>724423530I recently got a 360hz monitor and you're very wrong.
>>724427827>in case of systems that track eyeslol
>>724428229You can buy an eye tracker right now.https://gaming.tobii.com/product/eye-tracker-5/Soon lowering latency through this expensive trick might become actually viable investment considering shillvidya is making GPU prices skyrocket.
>>724428229There was a game that came out recently where blinking was a main feature.
>>724427827how fucking retarded. They're not going to have rolling low resolution zones on a screen that tracks your eye movements when you can just brute force high resolution across the whole screen with existing technology.You should kill yourself for posting something so irredeemably stupid and inflicting your worthless opinions on the rest of us.
>>724428385>>724428496>*rubs hands*buy this dumb shit
>>724424107my brand!
>>7244235301440p180 is ideal
>>724428685>The entirety of the video game industry
>>724428929vintage
>>724423276>10 feetOh no! I can no longer play DRG by standing 3 meters away from my monitor because I'm wasting my resolution!
>>724425090Most zoomers have never seen that folder icon style
>>724423276No, it’s not a meme. There is a big difference between high FPS gaming in 4K and everything else. 5090 and 9950x3d btw.
>the scientists
>>724428685It was a student project
>>724423276>Is anything over 1440p a meme?Whether something is a meme or not is mostly governed by how many people have access to it or not. People like to justify their purchases and like to tear down other people's purchases to 'protect' their own.4k is like 4% of the total PC playerbase. 1080p + 1440p is the rest. 4k is mostly a meme because 96% of the userbase refuses to even consider the notion of it not being a meme.
>>724426629>Reality as you perceive it is close to a hallucination, most of the things being hallucinated while your senses only update the internal model of reality. The color you see on the edges of your vision is a prediction that your brain makes.I don't believe any of this, you're just being fed shit by a bunch of pretentious faggots
>>724423276lol thats like saying people cant see the difference between 480p and 1080plol fucknuts i can tell when my game is 5fps off
>>7244232764k is retarded because its catastrophically demanding1440p dlaa is possible2160p dlaa will nuke any gpuwhy not "quality" 4K? because at that moment you involve the temporal upscaling and reconstruction component, and thats when it goes to shit. you can't bruteforce visual quality when the upscaler is involved.imagine a fence in front of you, and fully raytraced lighting behind it. while strafing you would notice that the 1440p DLAA image looks perfect and leaves no trails behind, while the 4K quality image suffers from all of the issues present in upscalers.
>>724423276I have my PC frame rate locked to 60 Hz
The true ideal is to move beyond pixels and digital graphics. Old films still look good by today's standards because they were recorded on a medium that was only restrained by natural physics.
It depends entirely on your screen size and viewing distance. For most people, for a monitor, a 32 inch is the minimum you should consider for 4K, but it is quite nice for many applications, especially text. For TVs, you might as well go 4K, they're cheap
>>724426849Console cucks don't need more than 1080p because that's all their games can render at at most.
>>724429873even at 28" there's a difference between 1440 and 4k at a normal sitting distance
I can't see any difference between 4k and 8k desu
>>7244294874k isn't popular because it's still expensive
>>724429995It's very difficult to parse unless you have great eyesight
For me buying a 4k display has made these threads really fucking dumb, since like my actual perceived visual clarity changes depending on what I'm looking at and really it's only mostly solidified my aesthetic theory that if something doesn't look good at 640x480 (square) or 960x540 (wide) it's bad.
>>724430071any tv you buy today will be 4k, a monitor isn't even that expensive
>>724430126This isn't an argument and it's not just the display that has a cost on PC, but the hardware running it.
>>724430117sure, that's a factor
>>724429579>why not "quality" 4K? because at that moment you involve the temporal upscaling and reconstruction component, and thats when it goes to shit. you can't bruteforce visual quality when the upscaler is involved.What you're saying makes sense on paper but it doesn't really work like that in practice. DLSS Q of 1440p for example looks noticably better overall than native 1080p. See: youtube.com/watch?v=p-BCB0j0no0 Even though there is upscaling involved, the image quality gains by reaching for a higher resolution are much stronger than any image quality losses created by the upscaling itself. The same would hold true for 1440p v DLSS Q of 2160p.Of course we're on /v/ so you'll probably just tell me to ignore and reject the evidence of videos and my own eyes.
>>724430124True. Valve games look good in 1080p and better in 4k.
>>724423276I can't even see the difference between 30fps and 60fps and I haven't even entered my thirties yet.
>>724430385I mean it goes without saying since it released in in 2004 but a lot of them also look good in 480, too.
>>724430718Nothing but pixel art can possibly look good in 480p
>>724423276I have a 1440 240hz monitor and am still on the fence about whether or not 1440 itself is a meme. 1080 is perfectly sufficient and if your game can't target at or above 60fps for 1080 on a 3070 you're a fucking joke of a developer at this point.
>>724430215yeah, hardware has gotten terrible in the past decade, we could already play games at 1440p more than 10 years ago
>>724430980You'd be surprised.Or maybe not.
>>724423276Anything over 1080p is a memePeople just keep falling for "bigger number better"It doesn't actually matter and it hasn't mattered for 20 years
>>724431238I mean for games it doesn't really matter, because of how human perception works.High resolution displays do help for things with a shitload of detail, like viewing an entire 4chan thread at once.
>>7244312381080 is horribly low res for anything above 22" at a desk, slightly less of a problem sitting in your couch
>>724431049because the games were much less demanding,
>>724431514it's really hard to ignore yeah, a lot of modern games are just terribly optimized and don't look better a lot of the time
>>724423276In other words, scientists have discovered the limitation of the human eye that Steve Jobs used to market the "Retina" displays, AKA "the pixel density is so tight at the average viewing distance you can't see the pixels", and he himself said that a certain distance every display is a Retina display.
>>724431642apple are kings at marketing and obfuscating tech words for people
>>724423276I just bought a 4k monitor and I see no difference between 1440p and 4k.The black looks much nicer though. Didn't realize that the black on my other monitor was so bright.
>>724431793well yeah it's oled, much superior to lcd in terms of contrast
>>724431793>I just bought a 4k monitor and I see no difference between 1440p and 4k.how big is the monitor and how far away from it are you sitting? 27 inch?
>>724431447You don't need a screen that big at your desk
>>724431967i have a 23", 28", and 27" monitor on my desk, very helpful for being productive
>>724423276my vision is so bad I cant see over 144p anyways
>>724431447>1080 is horribly low resNigga, I've been playing at that resolution for what is now 15 years and I never considered it low res. 720p for me is blurry. 1080p is crisp. Everything above is diminishing returns
>>724432031How big is your fucking desk
>>724423276I do not sit 10ft away from my computer.
>>724432095then we just have differing eyesight. i've been playing at 1080p+ since 2008, 1440p since 2012, but then games started being terribly optimised, and now when i have a 4k monitor my hardware can't run games at 60 anymore>>724432104ikea 160x80cm
>>724423276>this scientific study: 94 pixels per degree>the CSS standard: 47 pixels per degreeInteresting.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-64679-2https://www.w3.org/TR/css-values-3/#reference-pixel
>>724431941it's 26.5" and I am about 3/4 arm length away from it. I am 5'10 but have pretty long arms.
When you're actually immersed in the game, you can't see the difference between 1080p and 8K.
>>724423276>4 K IS REEEEEEEEEEEAL
>>724423276I'm not 10 feet away from my screen I'm more like 2 feet...
reminder that OLED beats IPSalso actually viewing this anything on right is BARELY visible besides the HUD. No OSD settings change a damn thing.
>>724423276The difference between 1440p and 4k is fucking massive.
>>724423596built-in scanlines when?
>>724435974>reminder that the more expensive tech is better than the cheaper oneYeah no fucking shit Sherlock, there's a reason people stick with the "worse" options. Might as well start with "if you can't afford OLED you're a poverty ridden faggot" ragebait instead.
>I can totally see the difference
>>724436568just with there were 4k 27 inch WOLEDS. It's only QDOLEDs RN
I am about to build a new system, but only a RTX 5070.Thought it would be safe bet to go for QHD res so I could play games at native resolution.Or should I go for 4K but with DLSS balanced/performance?Which would look better?
it is the sweet spot imo. and yeah normalfags are retarded and watch 4k from 10 feet away
>>724437242Only 5070 I dunno. What do you plan on playing? If it's new games and future games then you're already going to have to go DLSS Perf today to get good framerate at 4k output, and as the years go by it'll get harder to get there. I wouldn't use ultra performance even at 4k personally. If you plan on sticking with a 5070 for years without getting anything stronger, then get a 1440p display. If you see yourself upgrading your GPU in like 3 years get the 4k monitor.
>>724436632me when someone posts a screenshot of what they think is "good graphics".
>>724437242I don't think you should concern yourself too much on that front, you'll probably keep your monitor a lot longer than your GPU, so even if you're economising, in my opinion it's probably better to spend a little bit more on a monitor and save elsewhereI think it's better to try and plan for the future for >monitor>psu>casebut for most other things you can just upgrade/replace them over the years
>>724426275Does Hitomi Tanaka have anything in 4K? I have never found any JAV of hers over 1080. Only the western lesbian stuff she did is in 4k online.
>>724436817I'm pretty happy with my 27" 4K QD OLED, been using it for 6 months or so now.
>>724438941is the black level raise a meme on the QDsmy 32 inch isn't *bad* just have to move my eyes in a wider range when it's near ams length
I'm still on 1080p60 and honestly it works fine.It's a lose-lose for me. If it's better at higher res then going down will look awful forever. If it's not better then I wasted money. I figure my 4090 will be able to play games well into the 2030s if my 1070 is anything to go by (which I'd still be using if raytracing wasn't a fucking requirement on so many new games)
>>724424868My living tv is my monitor. I like lounging to play or relax instead of computer chairs. and it feels less like I'm neglecting my family when I vidya
>>724428153you couldn't tell the difference between 150 and 250 if someone put a gun to your retarded ass head dipshit. fucking 360hz where you retarded indians come from
Eh this thread is still up? >>724439408Yes stay at 1080p 60fps until you are ready to move on. It's like moving from 480p to 720p. Novody is playing at 480p anymore.
>>724436568>Might as well start with "if you can't afford OLED you're a poverty ridden faggot" ragebait instead.Nah, not affording it is understandable (I was in grad school until recently so I couldn't by nice stuff). It's only the retarded monkeys that get mad at nice stuff that deserve to be ridiculed, or the retards who buy one nice thing and then a bunch of shitty things because they're tech illiterate and ignorant and shitpost about it.
>>724439408I'm at 1080p 144hz. Turns out instead of the big bitch GPU that most people need, 1080p users just need a big bitch CPU to run those frames.
>>724423276>at 10 feetonly consolechuds are affected though
>>724439408I really like my 4k 144hz monitor. Seems like a waste to have 1080p on a 4090.
>>724439889most games are designed for 60fps
>>724439989is this achievable natty?
>>724440065Older ones, sure. 120hz and 144hz are options for a lot of games these days. It's nice to have the option, even if some games are locked to 60.
4k is not a meme its just you need good gpu to run it properly to match monitors hz otherwise you are beavering yourself
>>724440530>4k is not a meme its just you need good gpu to run itNot even a 5090 can run modern games at 4K at good framerates.
>>724423530T. Controller gamer
>>724440530True 4k is a meme because even a 5090 struggles to do true native 4k in new games.Upscaled 4k however is good enough since there aren't any 1800p monitors around, so this is the next best thing.
>Scientists claim
>>724440623>implying fast paces third person action games on a controller at ultra-high fps aren't amazing
>>724440117Perhaps.
>>724424741Run it at 44
>>724440694>gachafag pretends to be able to read
>>724423276How far away from your monitor / TV are you sitting and how large is it? You do the math.
Resolution is the least of the problems. The real problem is that there are no decent modern screens.I use an IPS monitor, and it's ok for my work, but it's literally impossible to watch a movie or play a darker game (e.g., Quake 1) on this fucking screen. If I need to watch something, I have to do it on the OLED TV I have in my living room. It's insane that in 2025, screen technology is so bad that it's literally impossible to watch a fucking movie on it that requires any contrast or darker scenes.On the other hand, OLEDs have their own problems that make them unsuitable for heavier use and work.It's been about 25 years since CRTs disappeared from home use, and yet humanity has not been able to find a single fucking solution that brings together everything a screen needs.
>>724424735>mostly because crt beam simulation requires 4K and 480hz+ OLED to be equivalent to proper CRTs in motion clarity and response time.In fact, for a perfect simulation you need 8K, and even then, you will still be missing pixels to simulate a CRT if you start going for resolutions higher than those used by games from the early 1990s.
When are they going to Jew 8K on us?
>>724424735Actually, you need 24k and 1280hz to simulate a CRT.Proof: me
>>724423276who the fuck plays 10 feet away from their computer screen
>>724442505QDEL will be here soon enough just wait
>>724429319Are scientists so hard to imagine for highschool dropouts?
Just get an OLED .
>>724443716>period after spaceYou know what, maybe I won't get a fucking OLED thank you very much.
>>724423276if this is true, why is it that there's multiple videos of people being easily able to correctly tell 4K from 1440p at roughly the same distance(couch to TV) in blind tests?
>>724442924When people think of scientists they think of middle-age white guys with glasses and white coats who knew what they were doingThat isn't what scientists are anymoreThey're just glorified Redditors who exist to try to confirm biases and collect a paycheck
>>724443814Post your game library NOW.
>>724427491
>>724444453my game library is impeccable than you very much
>>7244232761440p once again confirmed to be the ideal display resolution for PC gaming, the optimal balance between performance and visuals.
>>724443960Retard
>>724435974Try not cranking brightness to the max on the IPS.
>>724437242I would save the extra bit for a 5070 ti if you want to go 4k, the price difference isn't that major but you get extra vram and power and it's the most sane choice to go 4k outside of the 9070XT but despite driver issues is still probably the best option because of the massive support for DLSS4.
>>724431238going to 1440p makes a huge difference, dunno about 4k though
The best thing that nobody ever mentions about a 4k display is that you can get perfect scaling at 1080p.
>>724431238It's more about getting a bigger screen than anything, people want to use 27 inches instead of 24 so 1440p matters, and then they wanted 32 or even 42 inches for a monitor in which case 4K matters or they wanted extra clarity at 27. 1080p is definitely "good enough" at 24 inches and we would've been better off if focus had been on performance at a value price but we all know human nature and corporate greed won't allow that.
>>724423596my vision is augmented
>>724427491Karen is one of the cutest designed anime girls ever made
>>724429213>Wah young people Rent free
>>724445462dude I can barely see shit on deus ex no mater what brightness or contrast on the IPS
Now run a game at 4k on a 1080p monitor
>>724423276>10 feetGood thing it's designed to be perceived at less than 3 feet distanceDo these people think they're some kind of geniuses for making statements like this?it's like saying you can't hear your headphones well if you're in the next room
>>724444589>Impeccable >Thinks quantity is a sure indicator of quality Okay I will give you an opportunity to demonstrate your worth. Post your 3 most favorite games out of your collection on steam.
>>724447452>Portal>Half-Life 2>Trackmania United Forever
>>7244232768k gaming is still the future.
>>724448580>not waiting for 16kokay it's your funeral
>>724448580OLD MEN AND THEIR...INFLEXIBILITY ARE THE FUTURE
>According to the calculator they developed, at 10 feet distance, a 50-inch screen looks almost identical at 1440p and 8K resolution.No shit. Nobody is using a 50-inch screen at 10 feet. People sitting 10 feet away from their screen are using 75 to 100 inch displays, on which you'd absolutely be able to see the difference between 1440p and 8k.
>>724423276I sit closer and can see the difference, so it's only works for console pleb, they don't even have 1440p, so who cares.
>>724423276Why are you ten feet away from the monitor?
>>724439764I have owned and used several monitors between 60-300Hz and yes I could
>HUMAN'S CAN'T SEE 1440 OR 8K>also, here's a bunch of filters and frame gen, have fun!kek
>>724423276What most people don't take into account is you just don't fucking notice resolution after about 5 minutes. FPS, yes, for sure, playing 30FPS is always going to be annoying. But once you're IN the game and have been playing for a few minutes, you really don't notice the difference between 1440p and 4k or whatever. I have a 5080 but I still run all my shit at 1440p because it ensures the computer stays quiet and frosty (and, again, you don't even notice after a few minutes). Framerate definitely matters though. 30FPS is just completely unacceptable. I play most things at a native 120FPS, but I am okay with 60FPS, too, if for some reason I have to work with that.
>>724450809>you just don't fucking notice resolution after about 5 minutesIf it's low, you dot. Played recently some games in 900p due to potato pc
>>724423276
>>724451393>testing some tangible physical thing is le bad because some bullshit data skimmers cherrypick results to prove their preferred casethis ain't it lil blud
>>724442924i was making fun of scientists wearing glasses not being able to tell the differences cause their eyesight is shit
>>724445462what I would do is put bias lighting behind the monitor or just not play in a dark room
>>724425047Good, don't spoil yourself. You can never go back. Trust me
