What's the vidya equivalent of this?
Dark souls
Undertale and Deltatroon
>>724429018almost every nintendo game
All video games.
>>724429415This
>>724429143Nobody acts like the "mature" things in Nintendo games are particularly deep though.
Me when I play pokemon red watching bluey drinking capri sun listening to ms rachel
>>724429018>my media needs dark themes to be interestingSign of low IQ if you unironically think this way.
>>724429018Kingdom heartsTrannytale, DeltatroonPokemonmost nintendo games aswell
>>724429140>>724429721Undertale and deltarune are not written for kids at all. Not comparable to what the OP's image is getting at.
>>724429018You could make the point of this image land way more eloquently with barely any effort. People suck at making memes now.
>>724429018This mindset; and pretty much any mindset where you type entire paragraphs to justify something you like; is at the very top of the Bell Curve graph. Join the adults in the enlightened space. Never do gymnastics to justify why you like what you like. Literally "just b urself" meme. Embrace not giving a fuck what other people think and make THEM type paragraphs justifying why what you like is bad. Just to hit them with "ok".
>>724429839Its written for kids who want to seem more mature, like FNAF or South Park
>>724429536That temple in OOT is totes dark and scary, y'all. :3
This has become more relevant than when it was made at this point.
>>724429839excellent bait
What show were they referencing?
>>724429018
Not video games, faggot retard.
>>724430028>twink is excited to play his new game >gets ridiculed by neckbeards for the next 15 years and counting for no reason
>>724430284holy shit absolutely btfo'd
>>724429018Zelda games
>>724430284>deltatroon is so anally devastated by the truth he made this cringelove to see it
>>724429839Those games are written for kids who are being groomed into troons, unironically
any anime game
>>724430284Got his ass
>>724429018People who complain about pedo games getting banned off Steam
>>724429018Nintendo adults and mascot platformer enjoyers.
>>724430502source?
>>724429018he's right though
I am literally sitting here watching Daniel Tiger with my son right now.
>>724429839Correct, it's written for angsty 13 year olds
>>724429018Basically everything nu/v/ slurps up
>>724429018Kirby
literally all of video games are for children>m-muh rapeplayliterally built for children hands
>>724430284true beyond all limits
>>724429415
You have to admit watching Nick Jr in your 30s alone is weird
>>724429018Why is he a chigyu? Did you pay some Bangladeshi slave child that has never seen the sun to interpret and draw out this niche rage?
>>72442983914yo's are kids.
>>724429839Its funny that you can tell the replies to this post are written by underage kids trying to appeal cool and contrarian.
>>724430028Mature rated games are more interesting that E rated games and I'm of pretending otherwise.
>>724429018definitely sonicpeople will say mario, but mariofags have no delusions about mario not being a children’s series >>724430284the rebuttal is stupid because he’s doing the exact same thing
>>724429018>Picture shits on nintendo adults>Undertalefags take offense by itHuh?
>>724430729I know a guy who's 19 and obsessed about these games, he told me everyone around him wants him to transition even though he doesn't want to himself. Undertroon and Deltatroon fanbases are cults
>>724429140Those games are made by and for grown adult furries who want to fuck the characters.
>>724430284Sheesh. Dead to rights on that front.
>>724432354Its funny that you can tell this post is written by an underage kid trying to appear not butthurt
I downloaded the pre-digital episodes of Arthur for nostalgia reasons.Good show.
>>724432558>UHM, THIS POPULAR GAME? ITS TRANNY WOKE GROOMER GARBAGE!!! DO I FIT IN YET???Keep trying kid.
>>724432420>he’s doing the exact same thingno he isnt, thats like saying assault and self defense are the same exact thing because they both consist of throwing a punch
>>724429018I just found out there is a huge adult fandom of Bluey, I thought that kind of shit died with horseshit but apparently there will be always this kind of people.
>>724430745Good for you, anon. I hope you introduced him to the original show as well. Not many kids shows can claim to have one of the greatest jazz pianists of all time play a unique live performance of the intro for every episode.
>>724432735It's not that popular, it just has a very loud fanbase.
>>724430284Exactly right. Trying being sincere my newfags, making your whole personality about hating things just makes you a vapid retard. Its okay to have weird little hobbies and interests, better that than being some soul-less normalfag.
>>724432075Sure, but its weird in a harmless way, so I don't see why op has to have a shitfit over it.
>>724432840it’s a shitty mspaint edit of a shitty mspaint comic making fun of chronic /co/ postersthe only one who put in hundreds of hours on something were the people the initial comic was meant to criticize
>>724429839>it's actually really mature
>>724432420You might have a point about anything post Dreamcast, but the Genesis games are good for all audiences. They have great art, gameplay, and excellent music. 3 had a lot of its soundtrack done by Michael Jackson.
>>724430284truth icbm
>>724430028this image is older than 90% of this board
>>724429018Kirby, especially the blood part.
>>724433268this board is older than 90% of this board
>ohshitamspaintcomic.jpeg
>>724429018people who try to justify what they watch or play and people who complain about what other people watch are play are two ends of the retard spectrum, i don't care and i'll watch and play whatever the fuck i want
>>724430284/thread
>>724430284Kiwifarms.jpg
>>724429018Sex with this kemoshota.
>>724430248Ironically enough horse show was better when it wasn't aware of its adult fanbase
Kirby.>t. Kirbychad
>>724430028Wait, I never noticed he's just got two copies of the same game
>>724429721>comparing Kingdom Hearts to tranny indie rpg, pokeshit, and tendie slopYou're going to gay nigger hell.
>>724434929
>>724430364>twinkis there are a reason why you're referring to a 13 year old boy as that
>>724429018I knew 4chan would one day make this post that dads already debunked. Of course it's normal for a dad to watch kid shows and even like them.
>>724435764What if they're not dads, though.
>>724436040That's just a dad but without any kids.
>>724430284Anti Nintendo PCMR lost.
>>724435025>indo aryan mouse in a school shooter trenchcoat
>>724430284Based>>724430248Also based Alan poster
>>724430284
>>724429018The answer is Kingdom Hearts; anyone who still says it's Undertale is still trapped in GamerGate.
>>724429839You're right, their written by and for mentally stunted theater kids who grew up into alphabet people and manchildren, something even worse than OP's image
>>724432735>Deltatroon >he thinks its popular outside of bluesky,tumblr,/v/ cultismFnaf was an indie and got a movie, books, and special spot in HHN at universal with merch. Calm down faggot
Roblox
Any nintendo games
>>724429839>Undertale and deltarune are not written for kids at all.Yeah its for mentally ill tumblr troons much like its creator.
>>724430028This mentality has existed for a very long timeMark Twain wrote about reading fairy tales openly as an adult despite the normalfags regarding it as "for children"The most childish thing on earth is the overwhelming desire to prove that you're a mature adult
>>724432486Its a Freudian slip. They know its an autistic homestuck derivative meant for angsty retarded teens deep down
>>724432720Arthur actually was a pretty decent show. It was almost nothing like the books and stopped being brain dead educational very early on and just turned into a more kid friendly version of Hey Arnold or something. I remember episodes being just completely random nonsense that had nothing to do with being educational or learning a lesson. I remember the show being great like that.
>>724438413Its a mindset your supposed to grow oit of after middle school. Nothing was better than just not giving a fuck by the time I was in college. Its not like you gotta reveal yourbpower level like an autist 24/7 but enjoy what you enjoy.
>>724438413Yes but fairy tales of olden times are not on the level of Steven Universe or other trooncore shit that is peddled to manchildren of today
>>724434929>trilogy ends with the main villain, who's killed millions of people, getting to go to heaven with his gay lover, and Sora and his crew have to apologize for being mean to himGiving Deltarune and Undertale a run for their money in terms of cuckoldry.
>>724439437until the animation quality changed and then making ratburn a faggot
>>724429018Pokemon, any other answer is wrong.
>>724430000Bro typed a whole paragraph to justify "not typing paragraphs to justify yourself." Also, nice quads.
super paper mario btw
>>724439816NuKH doesn't count thoughbeit.
>>724429536You never met a kirby fan
>>724429415kek
>>724429714more like the signs of low iq is absorbing any and all low effort content that can be consumed with zero thought process.
>>724439437There were loads of these shows during the period yeah. It was just Doug in different flavors>Doug Doug>NY elementary school Doug>Other NY elementary school Doug>Girl Doug>Boston elementary school Doug>Wheelchair Doug>Sad teen girl Doug>Alien Doug>Black Doug>Californian teenager DougWish I had the meme about this
>>724435559my brain is rotten officer, too much time on the internet, its ok even if i actually find him midly attractive i would never hit on him since i lack the self steem and mental capacity to do it.
>>724429839it appeals to the same crowd, like if you want to tell a mature story don't use a cartoon animal person call bingle helvetica
>>724429018anything "nostalgia" cartoonish shit like zelda, mario, fucking donkey kong and sonic. If you like playing that shit and you're older than 10 then you're either retarded developmentally or a pedo.
>>724429018Super Paper Mario
>>724429839Yep, we found it.
>>724439591Steven Universe will be viewed in 200 years the same way we view Snow White and the Seven Dwarves today.
>>724440640more like coal black and de sebben dwarves
>>724440328Doug Explains It All featuring Melissa Joan Hart
>>724440640>a major landmark for animation is the same as a show that was kinda popular with a very specific audience for less than a decade
>>724440640doubt it will even achieve that level of posterity. It would just be associated with the schizophrenic social media era of America as a small thing. Normies dont know shit about tumblrite slop
>>724430000Sometimes typing paragraphs is fun. I think you'd understand, considering as you just did it.
>>724440730I forgot Black Doug and Grown Up Baby Doug too
>>724440857*Other Black Doug
>>724439930I remember watching some of the digital era Arthur back when they marathoned it. It wasn't THAT bad when you get used to it. I think they definitively got a little better with the digital style in the later season. Writing wise, there were definitely some really off episodes like they got a different writer or something but wasn't enough to tank the rest of the show's overall quality. I read about the ratburn being gay but was told they never brought that up again which lines up to how I felt about those really "off" episodes. You'd just have certain episodes that just doesn't feel like it was part of the show.For what its worth, Arthur had a graceful fall from grace than any long running cartoon with that many episodes and seasons.>>724440328Fuck I should of said Doug, Arthur really is similar to Doug. Pic related is probably why keep comparing it to Hey Arnold.
>>724438214>He thinks its popular outside of half the internetOk, enjoy being in your 49% majority I guess.
>>724440328the thing ive wondered in the near 35 years since the show aired ive always wondered why doug didnt just kill roger. i know thats some heavy shit for a bland show about teenagers but you just know he was going to grow up to be a local pusher so why not just go full quailman and rub that bitch out 47 style? drop a fucking piano on his ass and blame it on skeeter, you know the cops in bluffington are just itching to bring the whip down on those blueys even if they thought he did them all a favor by rubbing out one of the green menace. patty will not kiss the creator of quailman but she will probably kiss the guy she thought murdered a man, thats just how women work because theyre fundamentally retarded. i admit this would probably be the last episode by all rights but being that show that ended with a murder after its wholesome main character snapped would be pretty fucking kino
>>724440679Coal Black was kino and shouldn't be compared to that fag show.
>>724429018Bluey board.
>>724430284OP BTFO!
>>724430284Damn
>>72444097249%? Is that the deltatroon suicide rate wtf? lol
>>724441258bluey is mlp for women and dads
>>724429018I like "kids shows" because they're hopeful and comfy. They make me feel good.Forcing yourself to only watch "adult content" means you're really just limiting yourself to sex and gratuitous violence. The stuff that gives a show a higher age rating.This strikes me as an unhealthy thing to do to your mind. And is ironically more puerile than just watching kids shows.
>>724429018The Binding of Isaac
>having a good day>remember my MLP phase>want to rope
>>724441670Why? You're not doing it anymore. No reason to give a shit about stuff that's long since over and no longer affects you.
>>724441670desu i dont think its weird to watch cartoons if it makes u happy. ive thought about watching those batman cartoons because i find the setting comfy. probably just be honest about it rather than cope and seethe though
>>724429018Hollow Knight and Silksong
I saved this image ten years ago
>>724441670At least you didn't make yourself a lolcow out of it and go on decades long rants and tangents about the trolls
>>724441637>adult content = limting to sex and violenceSpoken like a true underdeveloped manchild. I watched the Shawshank redemption and by the end I felt hopeful and comfy because of how well written it was and satisfying for the characters. You're a manchild who limits himself to consuming kids shows which is unironically unhealthy thing to do to your mind. Especially when most modern "kids shows" are targeted to troons and not well written at all
>>724429140>>724429839I think kids can enjoy Undertale and Deltarune just fine.But at the same time, they are certainly meant specifically for people that have a good amount of experience with the concepts of RPGs.The game is largely a deconstruction of RPGs, so you can enjoy it without knowing much about them but when you have played at least a few, the way it plays with the tropes is much more enjoyable.It's like how Madoka's a good enough anime on it's own, but much better if you know the conventions of Magical Girl anime well.
Kirby but even Kirby has literal destroyer deities that look like bloody eyeballs
>>724441926Well I saved this one like 15 years ago.Beat that.
>>724441637I always associate this scene with the JoJo meme version.
>>724429018This is how I view sportsball watchers.
>>724441670If you ever attended bronycon theres a nonzero chance I got paid to fuck with you
>>724442016That's a picture of me
>>724442092You mean RERO RERO RERO or something else?
>>724442286https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwFzxQjR9sU
>>724441926There's a monumental difference between content for kids and content for toddlers.Like the difference between Blues Clues and Spongebob. Toddler shit is absolutely unwatchable and repellant to adults. Kids shit is generally appealing to all ages.
>>724434929lollmao
>>724432840>shitposting in self-defencenow that's an advanced justificationstill doesn't work because the original ridicules the general attitude, while the gotcha ridicules "obsessing over people who engage with {shit i don't like}"the first party is a hypocrite only if it watches ponies in secret, while the second party is a hypocrite by definition after the gotcha image was postednigga just tank it
>>724441961Nta, but I wouldn't want to watch Shawshank Redemption when I'm feeling miserable. That scene where that guy kills himself and the rape scene would both be the kind of things to make me 10x more miserable if I were already in a bad mood. I can get wanting to just watch something dumb and funny, or dumb and cute.
>>724441926Soijak is being completely reasonable here. He was minding his own business until wokak showed up and started bitching about someone not bothering him.
>>724429018Kirby, one coukd day buntendo as a whole but most of those franchise fags embrace their childishness, Kirbyfags will not shut up about their SEKRIT EDGE.
>>724429839ok, we got the winner, thread should be over
>>724429415fpbpAlso I routinely watch this that seem to be made for kids but are actually for discerning adults, like Kiff.
>>724441986I don't know, I feel like a lot of jokes and subtext would fly right over kids heads. Even ignoring all the references and vidya trope jokes, there's the narrative and character stuff which really makes those games. I remember watching Joel play Undertale (I was a poor kid who didn't know about torrenting) when I was a middle schooler in 2015, and even then I think I missed a lot of the magic because I was just too young to think about those things. I can't imagine what someone even younger would get out of the game.Plus it covers a lot of topics I think might be inappropriate for children, like all the faggotry.
>>724429559ms rachel is propaganda. she has a non binary freak singing kids songs in her show so my kid isn't allowed to watch it
>>724429018There is no such thing as adults. we only get adults during wars.No wars, no adults.
>>724441926I think about that one Quentin comic about doing this in public when I see things like this. I knew he was right even back then.
>>724441986>It's like how Madoka's a good enough anime on it's own, but much better if you know the conventions of Magical Girl anime well.I thought 4chan has realized that the reverse was the case long ago. Madoka's biggest fans tend to be people who otherwise don't watch magical girl shows at all, while those that do are often underwhelmed by the writing and how little focus on portraying the character's lives there is.
>>724443252Do you remember the name of the specific comic?
>>724443252Quentin was more or less right, except the whole world decided to disagree with him.A ride on the subway nowadays is something that would kill him out of cringe, with everyone playing slop on their phones or watching anime.
>>724440328>Wheelchair DougPelswick was such a strange show. I get what the creator was going for, but having a paraplegic main character is just going to bum people out.
>>724443143I think a lot of the stupid humor in those games would go over peoples heads if they werent terminally online in the 2000s, probably makes it a pain in the ass to localize for the Japanese fanbase
>>724429018POkemon undertake minecraft balatro
>>724441670Be thankful you didn't have a "spergout at mcdonalds over szechuan sauce" phase.
>>724442016I still smell spaghetti-os when I see that picture.
>>724441670MLP was done so dirty i don't mind the fanboys anymore.A fucking calarts/3D shit combo
>>724443471There are a lot of terminally online Japanese people, and they're behind the world culturally by about ten years. I think it wouldn't be that hard, especially when half of the jokes are about anime or Japanese games.
>>724443363It's this one.
>>724430248I find them cute and like the cozy story
>>724439816That shit all comes from nomura getting attached to his gacha game and mourning the stillbirth of FF versus 13. He decided last minute that the trilogy wasn't the end and that instead the main bad guy needs to become the second goodest guy. Note that "heaven" in kingdom hearts is the same place sora ended up in for 4. Xehanort is 1000% becoming a vegeta party member, thats why pic related exists as a model.
>>724433018>posts an author mouthpiece>from a glib game full of gags that plays with actually established adventure themes>muh sincerity but also muh twistsI hope the irony is not lost on you. Yet I suspect it is, because your notions of irony are just whether something is done with a wink and nudge or not.Nothing to do with the funny animal game itself, just that you lot are actual idiots who don't know what wit is. Why don't you read a real fucking book: you've got centuries worth of text from ancient satires to postmodern short stories to get a grasp as to WHAT IRONY IS.
>>724443389Literally every opinion he had was justifying normalfaggotry.
>>724442816Its those scene which make it so comfy and satisfying in the end. It's getting through the hard things is what makes us happy
>>724443738For the most part women think that discussing something as abstract as philosophy in a public/social setting is weird and pretentious.
>>724444207>a glib game full of gags that plays with actually established adventure themesYes, one made out of sincere love for those themes, and for other stories which used them. If you're trying to paint the work itself as insincere, you have to make an actual argument, not just chuckle to yourself about how the game is totally ironic and you dislike it for that.
>>724429415came here to say this
>>724429018Sonic comics
>>724441637Nah, the issue with /co/ people isn't that they watch cartoons made for kids, it's that they obsess over making those cartoons seem "mature" so they can be taken "seriously" by people who don't care for cartoons.No, a kid's show is not super mature because someone got a bloody lip in it.No, your retarded gay headcanon about how the show is actually an allegory for trans suicide is not real.No, that kid show you like is not some amazing piece of art because it makes you feel good and comfy, it's fine to have a comfort show, but sitting around and saying "that show is amazing" BECAUSE it's your comfort show just makes you a low-functioning autist, which is the objectively bad kind of autist and not just the mostly bad kind of autist.Too many fags into cartoons don't understand the concept of a guilty pleasure, I fucking love trashy crunk music, but I'm not sitting here going on rants about how Lil Jon is a lyrical genius.
I like MLP, I like UT/DR, I like A Hat in Time, and I like a bunch of other media that either are made for kids or try to capture a childhood whimsy. I also like it when these works incorporate darker themes in a tasteful manner that only adults would really appreciate. Does that make me a manchild? Perhaps. I like media that is purely for adults too; you can't exactly write "A Clockwork Orange" in a child-friendly form without losing the core themes of the work.The internet may have expanded the "manchild" audience but it has always existed. Tolkien ("The Hobbit" is a children's fairy tale and its positive reception from adults encouraged him to write LotR), Lewis Carroll, Roald Dahl, and C.S. Lewis all have had earthshaking effects on all media through their works for children.
>>724444539I always thought that part of the image was a joke because it's so weirdly specific and, like you said, pretentious - like he was just taking the piss with that one, but who knows
>>724444787I'm sorry, are you trying to imply that liking cartoons is a guilty pleasure in itself, or just that cartoon focused spaces have an inordinate amount of people who are sure their comfort show has objective merit?
>>724433190>Michael Jackson*Brad Buxer
>>724444906"Weirdly specific and pretentious" describes just about every opinion Quentin ever espoused.
>>724442816Fucking kek>no I can't watch actual dark moments, I need fake dark moments in cringetoons to obsess over and act like it's mature while avoiding any actually mature mediaThe eternal cartoonkek
>>724445034A little of column A, a little of column B.I especially feel like a lot of people genuinely do not understand what a guilty pleasure is.It's not something that you literally feel guilty about enjoying, but something that you enjoy regardless of what the common opinion/belief about it is.
>>724445120>conflict that isn't M-rated isn't real conflict
>>724429018deltarune
>>724439586>supposed toWho even believes in this boomer nonsense anymore.The people telling you that are also telling you that you are supposed to support Israel unconditionally, serve in the army or marines to 'build character' and that communists are the reason you're poor.Break your conditioning.
>>724441637>>724444787Adventure Time is better than most adult cartoons. It even remains good for much longer than other similar things like Regular Show, which wears out its gimmick relatively quickly and peaks in the first (not pilot) episode. I even feel like /co/ fags don't appreciate just how consistency funny it is precisely because they take it too seriously.
>>724440507Let's see your Steam library. If I see even an ounce of tranime, capeshit or a shooter you're DONE, son.
>>724444797>only adults would really appreciateImplying you aren't exactly the same as the kids who think that the le dark moments make the show hecking deep and mature. The problem with kids mediafags isn't that they consume kids media, it's that the overwhelming majority of slop they consume is made for 7 year olds.
>>724445325K I N O
>>724441961Of you're watching any mainstream Hollywood production past 1920 you are willingly consuming Jewish propaganda, of which Shawshank Redemption belongs (written by pedophile Stephen King).
>>724445309>Adventure Time is better than most adult cartoons.That is not a particularly high bar to clear considering pic related is your average adult cartoon.Though I'm sure there's someone on /co/ who thinks this is an underappreciated masterpiece because it has like 4 worthwhile jokes in its entire run.
>>724445309>Homestuck at home is better than most adult cartoons.
pages and pages of text, an entire offsite that can be down to 'WHY ARE YOU HAVING FUN'
>>724445168My usual definition of a guilty pleasure is something you enjoy despite knowing it's not that good. Not just unpopular, BAD. If you don't think it carries that connotation at all, then I'm not worried, I was just curious whether you thought cartoons as a medium deserved to be disregarded.
>>724445620boiled down*these guys are the stable ones, mhm
>>724444506Maybe that's what it does for you. For me all I can think is "that sucked" regardless of if I got through it, which usually I don't. Things just sort of stick around in my life. And when do they go away I don't really feel any better.
>>724430284your response, OP?
>>724445457>That is not a particularly high bar to clearI know, but I'm basically saying that it beats out most things in the category besides peak South Park and for a good part of the original run is otherwise mostly better than The Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, Rick and Morty etc.
>>724445120I just wanna watch something funny. Preferably with nothing grim at all. Mature media is something I watch when I'm not in a miserable mood.
>>724445629>I was just curious whether you thought cartoons as a medium deserved to be disregarded.Meh, I don't hate cartoons or anything, but I tend to avoid discussion of them because most discussion boils down to "it made me feel good/made my weenie/giny tickle, so it's good." Even on /co/ the last time I browsed it circa 2021, that was how most discussions went.I also don't really watch many of them nowadays because I have 0 interest in kid's shows and most modern adult cartoons are just simply not funny or interesting. As it stands the medium mostly feels like either babysitting for children/low-functioning autists or a really shitty backup plan for failed Hollywood writers to get their shitty animated sitcom idea off the ground.
>>724445740>and for a good part of the original run is otherwise mostly better than The Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, Rick and Morty etc.That's where you lost me.Family Guy and Rick and Morty maybe, but no, AT is definitely not better than peak Simpsons or Futurama.
>>724445380None of what I mentioned was targeted toward 7-year-olds. Of course media for younger children will have less depth overall. Classic Dr. Who was a children's show yet had plenty of darker themes and fanservice. It's better termed as a family show I suppose. I like family movies as well, such as old westerns which weren't all gritty and edgy (they couldn't be because of the Hay's Code) but didn't shy from violence or plots with complexity.
>>724445510this. looking back on it I like it but it meandered quite a bit with no real direction
>>724444578First of all "sincerity" is in the eye of the beholder, and I am not here to argue what goes on inside toby's head. If anything, I'd argue all the theoryfags have gone off the deep end, and forgot how undertale ended in a very familiar shonen power-of-friendship way.What I am saying is that idiots fellating the old turtle (and by extension toby) have no actual clue what the most basic form of irony is. They just posit that it's the opposite of sincerity, and thus become victims of irony themselves. You put deltarune on a pedestal as a shining example of sincerity (and thus anti-irony) — you get into farcical territory.>the game is totally ironicIt absolutely is. Here's a hint: it's all about juxtaposition. Like, for example, every single interaction between Gerson and Susie early before the study. A plot beat relying on irony, in a game full of wordplays and subversions and all that witty stuff. The game's chock full of irony. BECAUSE IRONY ISN'T JUST THE OPPOSITE OF SINCERITY THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ A FUCKING BOOK.
>>724445827Why are you trying to discuss anything in public online spaces, much less anonymous ones, if you feel your experience is significantly worsened just by SEEING vapid opinions? And how do you not feel that /v/ is just as bad?Most stuff is shit, this has always been the case. Things are especially shit as of late, because the creative world is currently suffering collective brain damage, but that still isn't an absolute statement. "Most" is not and never can become "all".
>>724445914>Simpsons or FuturamaThe absolute best episodes? Yeah, you have a point. But comparing average episodes? It really is more consistently entertaining honestly.But then the absolute best episode of Family Guy is funnier than all of these, despite the show otherwise being slop.
>>724441670You're not alone brotherThat being said I still play EAW
>>7244458271) What were some of the good ones?2) Any good upcoming ones or nah?Also it feels like a lot of people's opinions on the various mediums of entertainment are that they have gotten worse, now I'm starting to think it's not entirely nostalgia (not that nothing good is coming out today, but that in general there are less good things being made as of recent).
>>724441926Soijaks did not exist 10 years ago you zoomer fuck.
>>724446141>But then the absolute best episode of Family Guy is funnier than all of theseGod, posts like this remind me why I stopped browsing /co/.
>>724434929>Liking Kingdom onionsLol
>>724446171Nta, but yes they did in 2015. Feels guy is literally from that era retardo
>>724446135Not him but why is the creative world going to shit as of lately? Not a gotcha or anything I actually want to know.
>>724446228Feel guy is from like 2010. Why are you talking about things you have no knowledge of?
>>724429018i just like media regardless of intended audience, simple as.
>>724446286You literally said that it didn't exist 10 years ago are you retarded?
I watched some episodes of Dragon Tales, and it really does deserve to be forgotten. The early episodes do showcase some interesting late cel animation and have their moments, but the writing is still mediocre and it goes to shit very fast. I just like the cute art and character designs I guess, and it steered me to Ron Rodecker, the man behind the style. Anyway, there was a funny storyboard jam document leaked on /co/ a few months ago. Give it a look if you remember this show, even if it was as the thing that made you change the channelhttps://desuarchive.org/co/thread/149734025/#q149734025https://files.catbox.moe/hm3aeq.pdf
>>724446135>Why are you trying to discuss anything in public online spaces, much less anonymous ones, if you feel your experience is significantly worsened just by SEEING vapid opinions?Because cartoon discussion these days is literally nothing but vapid opinions, which is why I don't really engage in it anymore.>And how do you not feel that /v/ is just as bad?/v/ is also bad, but I can usually find SOMETHING to discuss regarding a game with people here.With cartoons I just don't have much interest in the discussions these days, last time I paid attention to any of it it was 90% shipping, online drama, and various headcanon autism fights between retards.>"Most" is not and never can become "all".For me it's enough in the cartoon space to make me not want to spend time in those spaces at all, which is why I no longer do that.>>724446158>1) What were some of the good ones?I enjoyed Common Side Effects, didn't bother discussing it online since, again, I don't browse /co/ anymore and I don't talk about cartoons anywhere else. I mostly watched it because my brother told me it was decent, which it was.>2) Any good upcoming ones or nah?I honestly have no idea, I don't follow cartoons anymore.But yea, I also feel like we're seeing fewer and fewer good things release in every industry, we're very much in what feels like a cultural rut.
>>724446339I remember my local PBS station messing with programming and replacing bill nye episodes with this shitI was so pissedgranted bill nye turned into a fag worshipper but watching the old show was better after school than dragon tales
>>724445707That's a separate problem bro that you probably should deal with. Anhedonia type shit
>>724429018I pay my own bills, I pay my taxes, have a career, watched enough adult mature dramas, I think I earned the right to enjoy some Scrimblo Bimblo or Cute Loli Witches once in a while. Just saying, man.
>>724434789This. Aside from maybe Zero's eyeball bursting, none of it is too scary for kids to handle.
>>724446205Why does that even bother you? I said that I though it was a crap show, but I just can't deny that it has a couple of standout episodes that are way better than the rest. Like, the top Simpsons episode would have to be the Gummy De Milo Pervert Homer one, and top Family Guy happens to beat that.
>>724446480I think the issue refers more to when fags do this and the invade spaces with it creating a general distain for outsiders of that thing. Deltarune part 3 and 4 had like 10 threads a day when theres only so much you could say about it. Eventually it just turned into mass shipfaggotry and art dumping causing mods to mass ban it. That's why you don't see it as much anymore. You also have fags who play games made more and are targeted for children, then turn around and say all video games are like that because they don't want to feel ashamed about the games they when the point is that they shouldn't care.
>>724446618>papyruscringe
>>724446618I don't think you'll ever understand why his effort is funny and yours is not. .
>>724444787Just because something isn't intellectual doesn't mean it can't have merit. I'm not gonna say Kaiketsu Zorori is a super deep statement on the human condition, but its movies have great animation, the characters are likable, and I find the attitude of the main character to be aspirational.
>>724446618tourist here. Is this what you guys do in your free time?
>>724446678This is more to do with the general attitude of the modern internet than liking childish things. Too many people nowadays just feel that's not enough to like something, other people have to too
>>724429143I work in tech and all the late 30s millennials won’t shut up about Nintendo games. I want to strangle them
>>724446057>If anything, I'd argue all the theoryfags have gone off the deep end, and forgot how undertale ended in a very familiar shonen power-of-friendship way.If you're talking about the people who are dead sure that Deltarune is going to be about how you're a bad person for playing the game, I think they're dumb too. But Undertale had two main endings, and the shonen power of friendship is only half of the story. The point of Undertale's endings, taken together, is that the game doesn't hold any power over you. You don't need to make numbers go up, you don't need to be nice to the characters. You do those things if you want what they'll get you in the game, not just because you're "supposed to" do them.>The game's chock full of irony.The game using irony does not mean the game itself is insincere. I don't think Undertale or Deltarune lack irony, I think that they rein it in and use it with intent without completely undercutting the tension or weight of their story. Which is what I'd call the mark of an "ironic" work.
>>724446885No one's saying it has no merit, anything that you enjoy clearly has some form of merit for you, the embarrassing part is when you go "No, this cartoon for 9 year olds was secretly made for me, the 30 year old man!"It's like being a guy who buys nerf guns and insists that nerf guns are actually a toy for mature grown-ups and getting upset when people say nerf is a children's toy.Besides, we all know that the real toy autists just upgrade to real guns.Or airsoft if they're not American.
>>724445309Adventure Time is a teen show and you can't tell me otherwise it isn't.
>>724429536They absolutely do.
>>724446448>literally nothing butSorry but I can't take absolutes seriously. I don't care how shit things get, it can't be 100% bad, only bad enough to not be worth it.>For me it's enough in the cartoon space to make me not want to spend time in those spaces at allAh, more reasonable. The fact that /v/ doesn't cross that threshold is curious but I understand it's not an easy thing to quantify.
>>724445740id say Bojack Horseman is the peak when it comes to adult cartoons. manages to cover some pretty heavy stuff in ways that arent cringe or trying too hard. also its humor is actually funny and not reliant on shock like 98% of adult cartoons.
>>724429018>What's the vidya equivalent of this?Pretty much ever single Nintendo game ever.
>>724446678>Deltarune threadsA major reason for that is because of hype existing beforehand and the equivalent of a new game dropping. Every game that /v/ looks forward to gets a flood of threads immediately.The second reason is that /v/ is the only place to discuss the game with people who aren't mentally ill freaks, since they police the wider internet. A bunch of fan game devs hang around 4Chan because they know they can bounce ideas around here without culture war BS being shoved down their throats.
>>724447290I like Bojack when I was in high school/early college but it’s pretty cringe on rewatch. Also the comedy is really bad le whacky randumb millennial humor
>see a youtube video about a kids show I'm nostalgic for>watch it>recommended is now flooded with 30-40 year old autistic manchildren critical analyzing kids tv shows and movies
>>724447369im 30 and i love the show. i..sadly related to some of bojack's shit and i hated that so much i legitimately improved myself. the stuff about seeking validation for doing nothing really hit me hard.
>>724429536There is a Kirby thread going on 500 posts, RIGHT now.
>>724447236>The fact that /v/ doesn't cross that threshold is curious but I understand it's not an easy thing to quantify.Like I said, with /v/ there is discussion beyond shipping, internet drama, and who you want to fuck (though that still makes up a significant amount of discussion depending on the game).Most of the discussion I actually enjoy on /v/ shows up in the indie game threads, on /co/, indie discussion is inundated with all the exact same bullshit I hate about most other cartoon discussion, because at the end of the day, that shit is what the cartoon audience prefers to actually discuss, which is something I'm not particularly interested in, which is why I don't browse places that are dedicated to the discussion of cartoons anymore.
>>724447471Great show. Anyone who says millennial humor is already lost.
>>724447556I refuse to believe that 100% of discussion on /co/ is shipping, internet drama, and who you want to fuck.
>>724447471My problem with it is that it is a dramedy that runs on for too long and the comedy isn’t funny. The drama part about a washed-up has-been who wants to be happy but won’t actually work towards improving his life is good though. And there’s a few good quotes and even good episodes in there too.
>>724446472Reading about it, apparently it can be linked to ADHD, which is something I have. So yeah, its probably that. Can't really do anything about it though, since I'm physically incapable of taking ADHD meds due to a heart condition caused by taking them as a child.
>>724447643It's probably genuinely around 98%, and the remaining 2% is also not something I find particularly interesting since so many of the people into cartoons these days are the exact kind of mentally ill that I find extremely annoying.It's one part the quality of discussion and another part the quality of the people you're discussing things with.That board also seems to have a schizo problem that's arguably even worse than /a/, since at least the /a/ schizos are easy to filter when they get into their annoying autism spats and start flinging shit at each other.
>>724429140Undertale yes, deltarune no
>>724446678>causing modsIts just the one mod, and its only because it was taking away from discussion of his favorite games.>That's why you don't see it as much anymore. You don't see threads as much because the hype died down. People were freaking the fuck out a few months ago because a game they had hyping over for 5 years just came out, and it had a lot of shit going on.
>>724447076>"No, this cartoon for 9 year olds was secretly made for me, the 30 year old man!"Is that a common problem? The most I see is people over hyping things and calling them deeper than they are.
>>724429018every pokemon fan past the age of 20
>>724446678>Eventually it just turned into mass shipfaggotry and art dumping causing mods to mass ban it.Threads were getting deleted less than a week after release.
>>724447290Too edgy and cynical for my tastes. Plus the writing makes the writer sound like an insufferable faggot.
>>724447006>The game using irony does not mean the game itself is insincereI wanna highlight that never did I say that, but more importantly that it's not something you can reliably gauge. Without getting into ultrapretentious WHAT IT ALL ACTUALLY MEANS IS debates, at the very least. My main peeve is using "sincere" as a compliment, as some misguided opposition to modern marvel movies (as if Whedon invented being glib) or wacky internet comedy (something that you can trace toby's inspirations to, keep in mind). Bringing up "irony poisoning" means you have huffed too much fumes yourself, go outside and take a breath of fresh internet-free air.Deltarune is a funny animal adventure, that much is true. Just don't give me any of that grandstanding shit about virtues of sincerity. At least until the proper conclusion comes out and the inveitable fallout when sans deltarune doesn't go into alternate universe machine.
>>724441986>tfw didn't watch any magical girl anime first and thought madoka was midThough Evangelion stands up even if you've never watched any /m/
>>724448719>thought madoka was midIf you thought that you genuinely might like the real thing better.
>>724449081Her boyfriend is painfully average
>>724448673>never did I say thatYou vehemently disagreed with a post that took Undertale as a sincere work.>using "sincere" as a compliment, as some misguided opposition toThe thread linking Marvel writing with the annoying side of 00s-early 10s internet humor is the attempt to laugh along with who they think the important critics are, and to make it clear that they weren't that serious in the first place just in case it's too bad to take seriously.In short, it's self-hate. Marvel movies are written by people who don't really like the original Marvel stories or characters or universes. If not in full, in large enough part that you can tell... if you don't scoff at the notion of taking comics seriously. Like normal people do.>Bringing up "irony poisoning" means you have huffed too much fumes yourself, go outside and take a breath of fresh internet-free air.Irony poisoning is an entirely real phenomenon. You dismissing it is kind of funny.
>>724429536Instead they try to lower every other game down to Nintendo's level of babyishness with thought-terminating cliches such as "all games are for... le children! xD" That's not much better, really.
>>724429721Kingdom Hearts is for chads, scholars, and patricians, actually.
>>724449674No, it's for retard zillenials who think the prequels are good
>>724446339>I watched some episodes of Dragon TalesThe absolute fucking state of /v/, holy shit
>>724430284BTFO!
>>724432420>the rebuttal is stupid because he’s doing the exact same thingYou can be justified doing anything as long as it's funnier
>>724446618Low effort, which is usually okay but it wasn't funny.
>>724449385You might want to double check the reply chain, fairly sure I made no TONY BOX IS THE DEVIL claims. And since sincerity is not the antithesis of irony, calling his games chock full of irony is not an insult. You dumbass.>entirely real phenomenonJust like reddit karma, it is "real" in the sense that it is a thing exists. You ought to treat both with the same level of gravitas, that is to say: none at all.
>>724429018Persona series by far. Nintendo games make zero sense with the picture. Persona does, and it's loved by both reddit and v/ alike. This and being gacha fag central make me absolutely disapointed at v/. Even more than the pedo stuff.
>>724450520kill yourself tourist faggot
>>724430745Nice that you raise the bulls kid as your own :)
>>724450589>t. pedo virgin who goons to anime games and gacha
you guys think woke is bad in video games? try buying childrens books these days. i had to throw out of the shit we got at our baby shower because literally every single book that contains a human in any capacity is filled with forced diversityslop.even if it's a "100 first words" book and it's a bunch of pictures of objects, a few of those objects will have a black hand in the picture. it's fucking grim.not to mention the absolute state of Disney movies and shit. fuck the Disney movie Elemental is literally about racemixing. it's not veiled whatsoever, it's about a fire elemental and water elemental falling in love and the fire girl's father is painted as comically racist for not wanting his fire daughter to be with a water elemental
>mmm cockt. OP
>>724450734Maybe you should focus on raising your children instead of bitching about woke on an Chinese image board on a weekday.
>Maybe you should focus on raising your children instead of bitching about woke on an Chinese image board on a weekday.
>>724445309The show takes itself too seriously while also not making sense
>>724429018Genuinely Wizards is like thisWho the fuck is the target audience?
>>724441637>kids showIsn't this fag and tranny propaganda? Like Finn doesn't end up with Bubblegum or whatever because she's a lesbo. And then there's a genderbend version of Finn, which is tranny adjacent. I shant let me son watch this faggotry.
>>724440317b-b-b-but thats... 4chan.. a-and *gulp* we're on 4chan...
>>724445309Adventure Time was really funny and interesting to me the first season or so. But it's like nothing ever really happened and when it did, it wasn't interesting. Maybe I just grew up or something but I find it insufferable now. I keep hearing good things about Smiling Friends but I just hate it for no reason and can't really understand why other than it just looks ugly to me.
>>724450862You ever think these faggy posts are why your child is barely literate?
>>724450734Is there a gun to your head forcing your child to consume modern garbage or something? Shit like Dr. Seuss and Blue's Clues didn't magically vanish into thin air.
i mean it IS weird for a adult to watch kids cartoons, especialy some of them and you DO probably have some type of autism BUT you are a grown man, you dont need to explain yourself nigga, theres no normalfag gestapo thats going to raid your house and blackbag you for watching bluey or whatever diaper fetichists do,you can do whatever you want YOU ARE AN ADULT
>>724451494he has a black son?
>>724441637It's healthy to enjoy both, but saying you're too "mature" or one is retarded. If you prefer either or, that's fine as well. If you're a grown ass man, you should be able to enjoy your free time any way you'd like that's responsible and relatively legal.
>>724451504He's gonna complain he can't read the ones with black face or something.
>>724451645>helmaoI thought you weren't quoting me, fag. >>724451646
>>724451710im not that guy i just wanted to make a black joke
>>724451710Who are you? I'm not the tranny you're arguing with, I'm calling /tv/tards idiots in a passive aggressive fashion
>>724451494>3 year old is barely literatestop the presses!>>724451504well yeah i may not be a retarded faggot but most people are. it's just worrisome for the future with how much they've dialed up the propaganda and indoctrination in recent yearsour main go-to is 80's Duck Tales
>>724441637>>724451646my war vet grandpa used to watch "kids shows" (mostly looney tunes) all the time, even after i grew out of cartoons , If a battle hardened man isnt "too mature" for kids shows, im not either imo"
>>724451962lumping in Looney Tunes kino with typical kids shows is very disingenuous
>>724429140/thread
>>724447676>I'm physically incapable of taking ADHD meds due to a heart condition caused by taking them as a child.Took vyvanse growing up too for school. I hope it didn't fuck me up in my heart as bad as my socialization
>>724452098i mean, they had a more universal appeal yea but some shows like "old" spongebob had a similar effect while being much more recent When i was a kid 20 years ago there were still cartoons one could enjoy at any age, now i cant really speak for the ones who came out in the last 10 years because i havent watched them
>>724444506>suicide and rape is comfyah, the type of unhinged retardation i expect from /v/.
>>724450734>sees black hand in a picture>seethesjesus christ you people are pathetic.
>>724430284FACTS NVKE
>>724452659kys
>>724452735nah. id prefer to live out of spite and laugh at you bigoted fags:3
>>724430284I love sincerely liking things!!!
>>724452527>completely misunderstands the context and point of the storyYou need to be 18 to post here
>>724445309Watching the whole series while it ran, Adventure Time more or less lost me after Season 4 (and the rot arguably started in Season 3) precisely because it took itself too seriously.Hindsight being 20/20, Regular Show was better.
>>724451385I realized now that a lot of the writing was very proto-tumblr kind of writing where it meanders and is just there trying to tell a deeper story when it sucks at it. That was steven universe as well.
>>724429415fpbp
>>724429415true
>>724430284found the tendie
>>724429839>t. raped
Quentin was right.
>>724434924NARC was only $20 on release
Call of Duty and all multiplayer fps shooters. If you’re like 25 you need to start playing singleplayer stuff.
>>724429018>>724430284Both images have a point
>>724429839maybe not directly, but it's definitely written for people who were raised by the internet instead of their parents
>>724457740Giga-basedApul best pony by the way but cuteshy good too.
>>724429018It's kind of wild how many adults play pokemon. I am unrelentingly judgemental of them. BUT, pokemon adults don't try to defend it as being an adult game. They know they're playing kiddie shit and don't give a fuck. I at least respect that. And the fan art is nice.
>>724430284I'm confident at least half the replies to this post are a samefag, especially given the file names. And the post itself is cringe as fuck and not the kind of thing 4chan generally cheers about.
>>724458352that's why you disable the 4chanx filename randomizer when samefagging and edit the file names manually so they don't follow the same format. dudes an amateur.
I don't care at all about someone consuming kids media.I think it's incredibly pathetic when it's the primary media they consume.
>>724443343That happened to me. I had skipped on Madoka for the longest time simply because when it aired my interest was mostly focused on vidya instead. Before that I was already familiar and had watched multiple magical girl classics.Recently enough I had a craving for cute girls in fancy costumes so I went back to the genre and started feeling some holes here and there, finishing series I had started before and adding some new ones that looked interesting enough. Had a good time until Madoka, that left me disappointed and wondering if indeed it was only meant to appeal to people who don't actually watch these. Can easily be compared to what DDLC is for VNs, or Paper Mario for RPGs, or Touhou for shmups. What they have all in common is that the primary audience is people who will not play anything else in the same genre but probably be opinionated about it.
>>724430248But why? They are too cute to be fucked, except The white princess one. Even her voice demands teen boys virginity.
>>724430284>barely relevant autistic rant of a reply>adults who love little girl cartoons love thisThey have no self-awareness
>>724459394He's right and you are an annoying faggot for caring so much about what other people are doing in their free time.Granted though, the best answer would be just "because I like it", subtle dark themes or not.
>>724429140/thread. The Venn diagram of adult males who play Deltatroon and adult males who watch Steven Trooniverse is a circle.
>>724459608If you're on 4chan getting defensive over your little girl cartoon obsession then you're a pedo. We've all seen the threads, you can't hide it. You're just getting aggressive because, when somebody points it out, you feel like your softcore loli safespace is being invaded
>>724457740>flutterfagNot based, not cringe. Passable taste.
>>724457740You deserve to die you fucking subhuman
>>724430284OP destroyed
>>724439437Sex with Slink
>>724460314Reminder that this nigga saw Rainbow Rocks in theaters just so he could more effectively seethe about it
>>724429018Basically just easy games in general or playing games on the easiest setting
>>724429140you mean undertrans on undertroon
>>724460486honestly? basedbarneyfag was obviously a schizoid madman, but i respect the attitude of a committed haterit is an expression of passion after all, impressive in the same way that chugging a jar of mayo is (not good for you, but) impressive
>>724460879That's not even slightly clever.
>>724459971>We've all seen the threads, you can't hide it. And I'm sure you went in all of those threads JUST to complain. Also that's gatekeeping, and if you are too much of a normalfag who gets offended by "these threads" then it's working as intended.
>>724429018Sort of on topic, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyGAc-OLAiQ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToWuQSpROw0 were much better than I thought they would be when I started watching them a couple years ago.
is there a single cartoon aimed at adults that isnt comedyslop
>>724429415Man... who hates video games more than /v/? You people are deeply insecure
>>724461837>who hates video games more than /v/? Women and politicians for both sides, apparently.
>>724429536>>724429415>>724429140>>724429018I have a question what is it that makes a game "mature"? Like real edgy to the point you have to be over 18 to play it. What's the justification? What content. I don't think there's any game that falls within that category. Everything is so safetyedge.>>724435025This thread genuinely has me laughing
>>724458352yeah your right 4chan has never been a site for weirdos who do things that are traditionally considered childish like anime, cartoons and video games, this is very out of character
>>724457463quentin was 15
>>724429018Zelda before BotW actually put gameplay in. Essays trying to pretend Zelda is deep are the biggest cope i've ever seen.
>>724429018Kids shows have always had something for mom/dad on the sly. It's not wrong.
>>724461670Spawn had a pretty good animated series on HBO (That had some of the staff from Batman TAS) but idk if theres been anything as of recent times.
>>724429018roblox
>>724450734>/v/ shows off its collection of objects
>>724429018God of y̻͗ō̞Ș̇
>>724429415This, except for stuff like RapeLay which is fine for any age, young and old.>>724461837It’s not that they hate games, it’s that they acknowledge it as a medium that no one should take seriously as art (no matter how hard people try) or as something made for anyone older than 18.>>724462736He also considered Watchmen and The Great Gatsby the pinnacle of art.
>>724450734your kids are gonna find out that nigger exists eventually anon
>>724450734I feel sorry for your child, considering their father is a seething faggot posting on an anime imageboard about a colour in a kids book. What if your child brought home a nigger/niggress one day after a date. It’s not impossible
>>724429018I watch kid shows to sexualize the characters
>>724461324But it is true(n)
>>724429415Colossal Truth Nuke
>>724467273I want to touch his pp
>>724430284kiwifaggots are NOT going to like this
>>724429839
