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Why do people hate it when you ask for nintendo characters to be in a nintendo game?
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Every notable nintendo character is already playable. Why would you want bottom of the barrel picks like Isaac and Lip over big name characters like Ryu Hayabusa and Dante?
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>>724436016
Because modern Smash fans are just hypebeast faggots who just want to jerk off to trailer reveals of crossover characters.

Meanwhile, actually good Nintendo franchises that could use the popularity boost get completely ignored
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>>724436138
Because I can only see stuff like lip and issac in smash whereas I can see the others in any form of crossover
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>>724436138
>Every notable nintendo character is already playable.
Toad
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>>724436256
It's insane to me Rhythm Heaven continues to get snubbed
>One of the few brand new First Party Nintendo franchises post-2001
>Games every generation since the GBA
>Colorful cast of characters and artstyle that would fit perfectly into Smash
>Tons of great music
>Niche franchise that deserves a boost
>Literally nothing besides a Smash run enemy

I'd rather shit like smaller Nintendo IPs get character slots over Fornite crossover slop and Fire Emblem shit.
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>>724436550
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>>724436747
I don't even hate or care that much about the series. But it's over representation on the modern Smash roster is painfully evident.
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>Why do people hate it when you ask for nintendo characters to be in a nintendo game?
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>>724437069
See >>724436138
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>>724436016
Because crossover fighters are inherently better than Green Koopa #3 or whatever literally who you want added
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>>724437146
one person =/= "people"

see: >>724437069
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>>724436305
Would you genuinely rather have Toad than someone like Terry or Sora?

I do think there's space for interesting or cool Nintendo characters still. A Rhythm Heaven rep would be awesome, or maybe Chibi Robo, and I think more Nintendo characters should happen. But Toad, man? That's who you want?
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>>724437415
>”nobody says that”
>shows a person saying that
>”that doesn’t count”
also, see >>724437183
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>>724436016
The mario kart world roster is why, you run out of characters that people actually want and start making shit up that no one cares about.

Yeah I'd rather play as snow man than fucking Link.
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>>724437584
Literally no problem with world having stuff like that, it just needs characters like k rool, ashley, mona, diddy, funky, etc as well. There’s lots of interesting mario characters not yet in mario kart.
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>>724437714
Diddy is the most obvious one and they dug way deep into their stupid asses to pull out...sidestepper...the crab from the arcade game...
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>>724437584
Mario has a ton of fan favorite characters that aren't on the MKW roster. Nintendo hates referencing spinoffs and anything that's not generic NSMB shit.
>No Donkey Kong characters like Diddy, Dixie, Funky, K.Rool, etc.
>No Paper Mario characters like any of the partners
>No Wario Land/Ware Ware characters like Mona, Ashley Jimmy P, Syrup, etc.
>No retro characters like Wart

Also their selection of NPCs from mainline games is just bizarre. No Prince Florian or the flower people from Wonder, no Cappy, Broodals, or other new characters from Odyssey, no Sprixies from 3D World, no Woodles or Gearmos from Galaxy, etc. There's aren't A-list characters or fan-favorites. But way more generic shit from mainline games made the roster.
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>>724436550
I hope groove increases the series’ popularity
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>>724437584
MKW roster hate has to be a psyop. The enemies in mario have more character than the actual characters, dolphin alone is a better addition than anything post-Double Dash.
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>>724436016
Smash Bros has one guaranteed effect upon a roster inclusion, it creates more porn
That's about it
There are some certain benefits i.e. people have cited it as a gateway entry to getting into less known Nintendo series' like Metroid, Earthbound, F-Zero, Star Fox, Xenoblade, etc but those are within the minority of people
The vast majority can become fans of the characters within the roster but rarely fans of the actual series' the games those characters come from
Smash Bros doesn't magically make something a gorillion times more popular, if anything most of the time it just gives a skewed perspective of the character onto people divorced from the context of their actual games'
F-Zero 99 did more to make people actual F-Zero fans (and not JUST Captain Falcon fans) than Smash Bros has ever done in its whole lifetime
Now let me make this clear, this only happens WITH roster inclusions
I love Assist Trophies but people don't care who gets added, it's only when the character has a sizable fanbase clamoring for their roster debut that's when people make Assist Trophies a bad thing
Starfy's been an assist as long as Waluigi and nobody makes jokes about him
It's not mockery, it's just apathy (also his series is on hiatus/dead right now so yeah)
It boils down the backlash of hype people get and how this fanbase is full of people who are needlessly competitive over something they have no sway into
The Smash fanbase has thousands people all with their own desires and the roster space in Smash isn't infinite (and it's practically guaranteed we're never getting something like Ultimate again)
People get older, they get tired, and/or become impatient
So when the "competition" gets taken down the peg it gives the illusion that their most wanted is suddenly more likely
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>>724436016
I think it mostly just comes from people who see Smash as a video game hall of fame first and a Nintendo fighter second. As for me, I'd actually prefer it to go back to the days when it was a Nintendo fighter first and foremost.
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Because they're not ready for the consequences of a new game.
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>>724439594
I want Sonic shields as items.
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>>724439594
>Doesn't think any AT will be promoted in the base game, not even Waluigi
crazy to me that anyone would think this way since they've done that about 3 times now (Isabelle, Little Mac, and Dark Samus).
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>>724436138
>"big name characters"
Ryu Hayabusa isn't even the THIRD most notable video game character called Ryu



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