Favorite clan?
>>724444898Tzimisce. I miss the Cathedral of Flesh.
>>724444898> Favourite ClanNosferatu.Not only is it fun to play the underdog ugly fucker, they have an interesting set of disciplines, and the clan culture is cool (the fact that they hold clan loyalty over Sect makes them very interesting).
first for malks are gay attention whores
>>724444898Tremere, barring that Malks or Tzimisce. I like them unstable and conniving
>>724444898tremere because i can't help myself, i love playing casters in rpgs even if it's a bit silly like vampire blood magic.
>>724444898Toreador because I'm ugly irl
>>724444898VTM Chudlines Poo
>>724444898Malkavian. I like the idea of playing as a kind of prophet/seer. I like the general feel of the clan, and the madness network is a really cool concept. Great discipline spread too, even with Dominate instead of Dementation.
The crawl perk Banu Haqim get is fucking hilarious
this is such a good moment. really glad it exists
>>724445585>crawl by some hobo in the middle of the night moving 30mph>"Ya see something new every day..."
>>724445717Crack addicts just do that tbqh, he shouldn't even be fazed
>>724445667It's a shame it leads to nothing but yeah it's a very cool worldbuilding moment, very tastefully done
Tremere then probably Brujah. All the clans are fun though.
>>724445667It's probably the most human moment in the whole game.That and your relationship with Heather as the game progresses.
>>724445717>climb up a chain link fence>hobos freak out>jump off a building into a crowd>no one cares
>>724444898Ventrue
>>724445884I'd probably freak out a bit too if some guy just cleared a tall chainlink fence in half a second too
>>724445667when i first saw her, i thought she was pisha in some sort of 'normal form'
>>724445883I never liked Heather. She is annoying. Nice boobs though.
>>724445585Same with the Tor's speed boost. Imagine just seeing a person shimmy like a madman out of an alley into a pawn shop
be honest, his story was somewhat interesting
>>724446175pretty much all the ghouls you meet are annoying because they are enamored by their masters, who end up trying to hide from thier ghouls.
>>724446260It was, but then it just....?
>>724444898Tremere, Nosferatu, then maybe Brujah
probably the Anarch clan, that's what I got in the Vampire Personality Test. Makes sense lol!
>>724446260>>724446330Tell us non-payers his story, why does the fat man eat ze poo?
>>724446175I always feel really bad for her when you hear more about her life before she was attacked or however she landed in the hospital.
>>724445667>that one persuasion line where you say that it's not weird you look like whoever her friend was because just look around, there are a ton of people that look like each other
>>724446260kind of except I didn't really connect the dots and I don't understand his motivation. When and why did he join the Sabat? Why did he feel the need to confront Lou? Why did he try to influence Lou?
>>724446383https://uquiz.com/quiz/BxCBpq/which-vampire-the-masquerade-clan-are-you
>>724444898Gangrel are my favorite in Bloodlines, but I'm unfamiliar with actual VTM lore so I have no idea why some pseudodruid shapeshifter vampires even exist. Did some designer want to expand upon the "turn into a bat" concept or was someone just a big fan of werewolves?
>>724444898This should spruce up your thread for next time.
>>724446531I’m not clicking that, nigga
>>724446551>someone want to expand upon "turn into a bat"Pretty much, VtM writers wanted to cover every single type of vampire power or stereotype, from the sexy ones to the ugly ones
>>724446551They are a werewolf substitute for the Vampire setting. In the VTMR the Protean would let you turn into a wolf and even replace the portrait with that of a cute white doggo.
>>724444898
>>724446551Dracula could turn into a wolf, turn into mist and turn into a bat. I suppose that's the inspiration. It's vampires at their most overtly inhuman. It also connects with the Gangrel clan's deeper connection to the Beast.
>>724446531I remember I took this and I got Hecata and anons called me an edgy poser
>>724446572Malkavian are the most kissable
Can vampires cross moving water or enter homes without invitations?
>>724446514Safia was actually a Tzimisce the entire time, and because of how close she was with Giddeon, maybe they were Sabbat all along trying to usurp or whatever
>>724446201>>724445585Among the things that make me groan ("Go prevent a masquerade breach... by decapitating people with your bare hands!"), the fact that the post-feed Lasombra effect is /not/ a masquerade breach is up there.>>724446260The set up is cool, I think there's too much missing though. In the end, he feels more like a prop than a character.
>>724446667>Malkavians are retards instead of schizophrenic retards
>>724446749Just hide somewhere and make those people kill themselves
What's the deal with Followers of Set? Did V5 improve on them? I never see them discussed (even compared to other non Bloodlines clans). To me they're another weird ethnic clan except they're also a cult about being evil, but not in a super edgy way like the baali just regular edgy
>>724446740I think there's a clan that can't enter homes without invitations actually
>>724446667aint the Giovanni's the inbreds?
>>724444898Gangrel chads rise up! AWWOOOOOOOO!
>>724446887I wonder if the actual Church of Set led by that Taylor Swift chick who interview Jordan B. Peterson actually got upset at White Wolf.
>>724446667You know, with how ancient, insular, and omnipresent Jews are in places where vampires were/are active it's surprising that no clan/bloodline latched onto them. Well, the actual reason is obvious...
>>724446941No their just italian
>>724446414>be malk casino boss>like puzzles because malk craziness>figure out the prince burned half the city down and killed her sire so she could rebuild it in her image>and then to consolidate her power killed pretty much every senior member of her court to eliminate anyone that could remotely be a threat to her, including her own sister and co-prince who may have been blood-bonded to her>because he's a retard he confronts her about this alone>she stakes him and leaves him partially buried in the subterranean rubble of the old burned city>gf finds him and brings him sort of back but is unable to free him entirely>he uses his now somehow expanded malk powers to slowly drive her insane and continually force his childe to investigate the murders despite the fact that the prince and her ghoul-turned-successor continually wipe his memories so he has to just keep investigating the same crimes over and over>eventually gf hatches a plot to have an absurdly powerful elder vampire currently in torpor diablarize the guy underground so he can inhabit the elder's body, gain his power, and destory the city with an army of malformed insane wights before killing the prince>due to unforeseen circumstances the elder's body gets waylaid, and fat bastard's childe gets diablarized instead, and apparently the spell to stick the fat guy's soul in the elder's body was like "hey it's close enough" so now the childe is in the elder>events of game happen
>>724446740yes. Older vampires go a bit schizo with age eventually and may develop these phobias.
>>724447060The whole vampire thing is so deeply connected to the Old Testament that it seems like an intentional thing to have missed. The Prague mission in Redemption is the only time I remember encountering themes from Judaism.
>>724447008Don't your type have dogs to fuck or Garou males to get knotted by or whatever they do out in the woods
>>724447008>Discount werewolves
the good thing about VTMB2 is the fact they justifiable shafted the only gangrel in the game, the gangrel was low IQ, constantly smells like a wet dog and dies a dogs death.
>>724446260it really wasn't
>>724447384Her & tolly's voice acting was the only one that made me truly cringe, everyone else I thought actually sounded pretty decent but holy shit they were bad. Even Ysabella's weird stunted delivery wasn't as offensive in comparison
>>724447093Damn that is pretty interesting, too bad I figure the meat and dialogue around it is lacking in some way or the other. I thought Lou was also simping for the fat bastard too?
>>724447384>hey the inquisition figured out technology we have to go full fucking analog or else we're fucked>also you really do need to fully separate from your old life because you ARE very clearly 100% dead and trying to contact your family will seriously complicate things>calls her family on a cell phone>IMMEDIATELY gets hunters on her assdeserved it desu
>>724447384There was a Gangrel in the game?
>>724447384They made a unique model for a character who shows up for one scene then dies off screen. But they could not be bothered to make anything other than low res asian & vaguely brown faces whose eyes bulge out of their head when you feast upon them. You see those fucking ugly npcs more than most of the unique characters, you'd think they would at least try to make some decent ones.
>>724447179>t seems like an intentional thing to have missedObviously it's intentional. There's a Lasombra Rabbi in one of the CYOA games and there's a nosferatu character who took a Jewish ghetto community under his wing in Prague too I think but involving them in the wider vampire history or plot would just be asking for someone to yell at you so they decided to avoid it. A bit of a shame.
>>724446383Anarchs are a Sect, not a Clan.
>>724447731anon I...
>>724447647Yeah but it’s a pretty annoying and forgettable character
>>724447602Fuuuuuuuck no. Lou is a massive narcissist, she only cares about herself and the city, and any care she shows the city is based around the fact that she sees it as her creation, and thus a reflection of herself.
>>724447549What’s that spitty throaty sound she makes every time she starts talking? I felt like she had a ball of hair in her throat. Yuck.
>>724447698to be fair you are right alongside chinatown and it's winter, so 80% of the population is going to be fish-eyed chinks in puffer jackets.
>>724447802
>>724447865I see, yeah I suppose that is interesting and all the memes were just around her getting her brain fried via magic>>724447819bummer, I'm a Tremmy fag but I like the Gangrels
>>724444898Malkavians.It's a shame they're often portrayed as completely nutty, like the malk protagonist in Bloodlines or that hacker in Redemption (and the less said about fish-malks the better). They all have various mental issues but like humans in real life they can act completely normal and civil.But sure, if the games wants them to stand out as insane it's a clear and easy way of doing it.Malkavians are fun because they're the vampire version of that guy who sits next to you on the subway or park bench and you're immediately on guard because he just seems off. The other clans can't ignore them because they might just have some important insight, but they relax around them either. Some source books go a bit too far with their jokes and pranks, which kinda ruins their image.
>>724447698Dunno what you mean. Looks like a genuine American city desu.
>>724447892>I felt like she had a ball of hair in her throat.like a true gangrel, based
>>724447981I'd love to give them the benefit of the doubt, but you still see those same faces in 1920s flashbacks with blonde hair. Its just low effort.
>>724448268if you hold right click in the 1920s flashbacks, you can see it in true color without the sepia tone. kinda cool, reminds me of looking at old photos and then seeing them for real
The furries, because I picked it and literally took no fucking damage the entire run.
>>724447731
I thought /v/ is a Camarilla board... what is this shit talking about an*ch
>>724448554fuck off, cammy
>>724448554
>>724448554It used to be. Until all the tourist caitiff moved in with their anarch ideas.
>>724448554>being blind to the truth that cammies and anarchs are two sides of the same coin, and if either side didnt exist, they would inevitably invent it.
>>724448554Fuck on, cammy. The camerilla is the only sensible choice for anyone who isn't a complete retard. If I were a vampire I'd just want to have a full belly (metaphorically) and make money I wouldn't want to hang out a bunch of retards whose actual mortal parents are still alive or blood-bond myself to a bunch of crazed niggers ranting about muh antediluvians and how we need to sodomize babies to set ourselves free.
>>724448554It is what it is. But, consider: if Malkavians with their truly supernatural insight support the Camarilla, it ought to have some merit.
>>724448697nigga u aint never been free and aint no way u eva will. freedom aint free and da cammies gon keep u safe from dem old aunties sleepin
I dunno. They all play the same. I guess the wizard clan. I liked his clothes. And when I put like 6 points into sneak I literally could not be seen even out in the open.
Anarchs because it says something when both Camarilla and Sabat doesn't outright purge them. Something like a good middle ground every kindred can get behind.
I enjoyed Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines 2. And I'm better than you, so that means something.
>>724447008AnimalismGODS > Proteanfags
>>724449014Camarilla sucks but it's the only way. Anarchs will fuck it all up bigtime and Sabat will fuck everything up all the way forever
Can i use fleshcraft to impregnate a vampire?
>>724449065same. It didn't have the incredible atmosphere of the first game, but it was pretty good anyway
>>724448554I'm only Camarilla because I can't study magic without getting turned into some she-misce's chair otherwise
>>724449145nope
>>724444898Old Clan Tzimisce are literally me.
desu Fabian's pregnant childe was interesting, not about the character itself its more about she was pregnant when she got turned then she fucking stayed pregnant forever kek
Nice. Completely forgot she wanted me to be stealthy so I had to redo the quest. Also hilarious that she somehow has a sword on her.
>>724448554>I thought /v/ is a Camarilla board/v/ is a Kuei-jin board, you disgusting Kin-jin
Tremere women are autistic, clingy, weird nerds who don't shave and get so caught up in study they forget to bathe 2-3 days at a time.Ventrue women are the definition of elegance, scorched earth, smell like sugar.
What's /v/'s favorite Tradition? Or convention if you are based
>>724444898Kiasyd
>>724449658I haven't played or read much of mage to really be informed but I'm a fan of the racists
>>724449658stealtch
>>724449014See >>724448795 - camarilla for the social climbering intrigue and politics types, anarchs for the people who dont want to be around the social climbing intrigue and politics types. Each serves as a containment chamber for the kindred the others wouldnt want to deal with.Both more or less keep the traditions, cammies because theyre the code the cammies made, and anarchs because the traditions are practical rules for not getting dragged out of your haven in the middle of the day by an angry mob, and/or staked out for the sun because everyone around you has decided you are dangerous to be left alive
So what clan do we think is Bet of Night?
>>724450015Anarch ghoul
>>724449629
>>724450015its probably some autistic toreador off shoots who thinks starting a podcast is art
>>724449726Wanna do gay things to the rock like pee on it?
>>724449629>Tremere women are autistic, clingy, weird nerds who don't shave and get so caught up in study they forget to bathe 2-3 days at a time
>>724449658Dreamspeakers and Void Engineers.
how was it?
>>724450320She was a disappointment for me. The plot twist didn’t make it any better.
>>724450015Couldn't even bring myself to wait around and listen to the radio show dialogue after hearing how bad the first few lines were.
>>724450354I didn’t even remember it existed until now.> https://www.dualshockers.com/vtm-bloodhunt-shuts-down-in-2026/
>>724450354apparently this game was pretty good, it was just a bad mismatched genre
bluhhuhurgherogherig i'm being seduced arent i
>>724449943>camarilla for the social climbering intrigue and politics types, anarchs for the people who dont want to be around the social climbing intrigue and politics types.That's not true at all. Anarchs are all about gaining power. The difference is that the camerilla is a feudal society bound by ancient bonds of blood and obligation. The anarchs are ostensibly about getting away from that system. They are more loosely organized and made up of people who for one reason or another didn't want to be in the camerilla. I think a better analogy is corporate VS startup. The anarchs don't believe in suits and ties so to speak, but fundamentally it's the same thing.
>>724450459You are being PRESENCE'd
>>724449502Kindred what the fuck is going on inside a preggo vampire? Dead baby or vampire spawn perma inside her messing her up?
>>724450373The fact that you can see it coming a mile away doesn't help either.
Are any of the hubs half as soulful as donwtown LA?
uh so question, VTMB2 is set in 2024 right? so why won't the Inquisition have one of their own run as a president, rig the election and then nuke the undead out of existence or at the very least start using the army to wipe all the undead niggas around?
>>724450320>>Tremere women are autistic, clingy, weird nerds who don't shave and get so caught up in study they forget to bathe 2-3 days at a time
>>724450635Overrated, the best was Hollywood which people unjustly hated for the warrens
>>724450639Second Inquisition is already composed mostly of government entities. The reason they don't go on TV to say that there are actual undead bloodsukas living alongside humans is because they don't want the average Joe Retard to panic and start staking his neighbor because he looked at him funny that one time, not because they lack the technical ability to do so.
>>724450459
>>724450718A V20 game I was playing was using this token as the Tremere regent. Blood bound my Ventrue by making him sign a contract, but she got killed because of unrelated vampire politics, and my contract got burned up, and then I fucked off to Transylvania, leaving the current Tremere regent seething because they couldn't find me.
>>724444898Ventrue. The clan of KANGS
Toreador cause i'm ugly as af in real irl
>>724450779The real reason they don't do that is they're a front for the Technocracy, and telling everyone the supernatural exists would defeat their purpose.
>>724446175It's supposed to make you uncomfortable. Like her giving you her college tuition. Meant to show how slavish she is and how she is reduced to such a state from your actions and unwillingness to let her be.
>>724449629How can I impress Tremere girls?
>>724450829you already made this post, onii-chan
>>724450829>animeyou're going to nosferatu
>>724450413There is some intrigue to the segments but I don't blame you, they went for the whole "monotonous radio voice" which is off putting.
I would have been softer on it if they hadn't used "Of Night" for it, just do a new show
>>724450718>>724450839Mage and VTM being set in the same world never really made any sense to me, since the status quo would automatically make most of the masquerade bs unnecessary.
>>724450918 oh ok my bad
>>724450373I felt the whole "my love" thing was a little out of the blue and kinda unearned, but then when she explained she had spent decades assuming her rotund, costanza-esque pincushion of a bf was going to get scooped out and poured into an anatolian chad sticc. Still I would have liked it to be a little more like she had just slipped the tongue and we had to talk to her about it, not just have an option to go "stop calling me that" the like 12th time she did it.
I just uninstalled after the third or 4th fabian sequence and I shit you not I cant remember most of plot that has happened in this game because the story and the writing was so fucking dull and boring. the first lasombra outfit was hot though
>>724451003>they went for the whole "monotonous radio voice"Nah she's just a literal landwhale irl, she sounds fat because she is in fact fat. Apparently she also wrote the lines for it by herself, which would explain why her callers are inexplicably lusting over her monotonous voice.
>>724445667It's sad you have to lie to her.
>>724447008Why do these guys exist when actual werewolves exist? Were these guys made first and then they decided they wanted actual werewolves later?
>>724444898nos or malk, other clans don't really fit me and obfuscate would be really niceIf I played tabletop I'd probably pick Dominate Malk with some minor derangement>>724446667accurate but I'd say ventrue are whites
>>724451440Yes, VTM came before WTA
>>724450540Doubt. She ought to have like 8 in seduction at least.
>>724451095They're not, not really. Both acknowledge the other exists but it's hard to square the circle when you start adding all the vampire politics and the traditions/convention histories together. >since the status quo would automatically make most of the masquerade bs unnecessary.Most vampires do not understand mages well and vice versa. Both groups are also very secretive and paranoid. I remember in a technocracy book they talked about how they tried to infiltrate vampire society but they said it usually backfires because they are paranoid as hell and have auspex, dominate, and the blood bond, not that the technocracy would know much about that. I can't think of a counterexample specifically from any of the VTM books but I'm sure the NWO could give any vampire a run for their money in terms of paranoia and control. Point is no elder would entrust their safety to some opaque group of mages. And more importantly enforcing the masquerade is the camerilla's raison d'etre and something to hold over other vampires. There's no reason to give that up.
>>724451330Yeah. One last shitty goodbye to your human life.
>>724446667Very inaccurate. Ventrues are upper class white people.Malkavians are schizophrenics. They can sense other people's emotions and deep desires, and depending on how gifted they are, they also can see the future, too. They are always either geniuses and seers or trolls.Giovanni are inbred.
Is it so wrong i enjoy both games?
>>724452039Both bloodlines games specifically, i like the 2nd for the power fantasy on easy and the first for role playing
>>724451440>>724451487Didn't the first vampire book have full on werewolves as part of the enemy segment anyway? I'm fairly certain Gangrel is just playing on the polymorphing aspect of vampires like with becoming a dog and earthmeld
In VTMR during the Dark Ages it was mentioned that magic is weakening or something. What's with that? Does it have anything to do with the Mage: The Ascension setting?
>>724451071What would you recommend instead? Steak Coughing?
>>724452104>>724452039bad chatgpt
>>724452039No, I enjoyed both. The second is a pale shadow, but if you like the setting it still has something to offer IMO.>>724452319I don't know, I'm not a writer. I just think calling it "The [x] of Night" in a different city with a different person is lame. If you couldn't get Deb back do your own thing, Seattle doesn't have a radio show? They don't get Alex Jones in Seattle?
>>724452353God do i sound like ai now? :/
Insane that I completely just blocked this scene from my memory, what a badass transformation desu https://youtu.be/ykkDx49VtEA
>>724445585SWIGGITY SWOOTY
>>724452319I prefer the absence of reslops or sequels and are anything but except in name.
>>724452250Yeah it's not werewolf proper, and they can also change into a huge bat and probably whatever else the DM will allow
>>724452039Not really though a lot of the discourse isn't around enjoyment but rather how good of an adaptation 2 is It isn't, sadly, a good adaptation
Does vtmb have any total conversion mods? Like different scenarios or anything?
>>724452407Liking bloodlines 2 makes you insane, unironically.
>>724452402>Alex JonesToo chud for leftist studios. But yeah I get what you mean, it's probably them wanting to preserve the word play but not knowing how to just like I threw out some terrible word play
>>724452616I do enjoy malks yes
>>724452509Likewise but unfortunately this is the timeline we're living in>>724452534I would assume so. There are deep sea gangrel too aren't there?
>>724452682There are no clans in 2
does this guy have high humanity? he's a moralfag delivering vengeance which is weird
>>724452684Gangrel Mariners, yeah
>>724446260I liked him
>>724452684mariners yea
>>724452731Just typical Assamite drivel
>>724452720There are but they don’t mean much sadly. I want a mod that gives some kind of other passives or something besides the starter one
>>724444898Ventrue because I suck at life irl, like having control over everything, and have high expectations for everything.
>>724452779>Assamitewe don't say that anymore
>>724452924Banu Hawktuah
>>724452821>Ventrue because I suck at life irlYou need to not suck to be a Ventrue
>>724452970all ventrue suck iykwim
>>724452970erm technically we are all sucking.
Bros...I'm in the corpses and incest nuClan,,,
>the Elder is literally committing Diablerie to gain access to other clans powerswhy is this allowed?
>>724453231>fraud poser necrophiliac jew incest babyHow many debuffs can one clan stack
>>724452742>>724452752quite cool, surprised they aren't getting assraped daily with all the shit outside
>>724444898My personality is malk but claw hands are cool like gangrel but nomad hermit furry is cringe, edgekino lasombra is cool but everything solved with shadow power is a bit overboard
Apparently there are modders determined to try and make 2 better. What all realistically do you think can be modded?
Remember that you can hide post and replies made by the shills.
>>724453396I don't know how hard coded everything is
>>724453331>nomad hermitgod i wish that were me. i'm stuck having to talk to everyone in the gay ass city so i can have money to live.
>>724453241drinking vampire vitae is not diablerie. Draining another vampire is. I'd worry more about the blood bond if I were him.
Post your first playthrough stats
>>724453623>first playthroughIt has been twenty years.
>>724453623bro lmao that was years ago. it was ventrue tho and i used guns and melee
>>724453457Best mod i’ve seen so far for 2https://www.nexusmods.com/vtmbloodlines2/mods/42
>>724446667based lasombra
>>724446572Nossie my beloved...
>>724453396completely remove the flashback scenes, alternatively probably let fabian act like a vampire hovering around the roofs of seattle like you do in the game?
>>724452023you are correct that the Giovanni are inbreds but they are still mafiosos
>>724453396Figuring out what can be added. I was able to get a 5th discipline working, so now to see if we can add disciplines. It'll be a lot of work to bring the game up to what people want it to be, so realistically that won't happen. But if you like it already, or are on the edge of liking it, it'll probably get better.
>>724453953I just want some better side quests really and a masquerade meter that can slowly rise throughout the game. I figure the 2nd shouldn’t be too hard since it’s just a floating variable changing right? Like have it slowly increase the more bad shit you do and then game over or police swarm you at full?
>>724454050Quest logic is doable, the hard part will be everything around it, the music and the voices and the animations and so on, something that feels like it belongs.Masquerade stuff, if it's just a meter that doesn't mean anything no problem, if it's stuff like 'past this point hunters are around later or earlier' it might get more complicated.
>>724446667>Assamite : Allahu AkhbarsSay no more, i will now play the suicidal cult
>>724454149That’s what i’m wondering how it would affect quests since if you’re in red alert masquerade you can’t enter buildings, that’s the only issue i can think of
>>724452262Pretty sure that has to do with consensus. Dark ages mages used to be able to practice magic in the open, but in the modern era people on a whole stopped believing in magic. Mages blatantly using magic in public suffer unpredictable and dangerous paradox effects. They have to do magic in private or make their spells look like coincidences.
>>724446260The story in general was pretty good. Like way better than I expected. It's just hard to appreciate with how dogshit and indefensible the side quests are. What happened to kino encounters like this? Shit like the Plaguebearers and squaring up with gargoyles, weresharks? Even the Thinblood stuff mogs every side quest in 2.
>>724453325The ocean is huge, stuff like weresharks and whatever monstrosities are at the bottom of the sea have bigger problems to deal with than some gangrel sitting around sucking on fish. The worst part of being a sea gangrel would be the tedium
>>724453893the QT too chadstruck by you to even speak was sweet, even if she got too horny from being around corpses
>>724454580The side quests are the most garbage aspect of the game because unlike fabien’s portion, they’re aren’t even good on a 1st play. I really hope modders can make better quests because they are some of the worst side quests i’ve ever seen, total mmo tier shit
>>724451597Tecchies only worry about the anomalous if it gets too out of hand, but theres a lot of unrelated agents before they really get to act, they already won the war long ago.
>>724453231Better than me.
>>724450015The clan that drinks fat instead of blood.
>>724453231
>>724454991MCdonalds at night, sorry i'm not smart enough for this
>>724444898malk easily the most fun but celerity in vtmb is so good. tremere is also fun but more complicated to play well.
>>724454580>>724454748I agree that the side quests are legitimately dogshit but what possible quest can you have a sheriff elder do? spy shit is already for that gay Nosferatu while the nerd shit is for Safia, maybe slowly finding out the the the hunters are also in Seattle?
>>724445104sewer rat claws typed this.
>>724446941There is a LOT of debauchery.>Necrophilia>Incest>Blood libelBunch of bad stuff. No one likes them.
>>724455571>Necrophiliahot>incestgross
>>724446260>no option to go with itshittty game
>>724453623I didn't know how melee weapons scaled.
>>724453623Not my first character who I only made it with to the second or third area several years ago. This is my first character with which I beat the game. Yes, I did make a checklist of missables once I discovered the first skill book so I'm a bit min-maxed. I'm not proud of it.
What's the best clan to make a cool vampire minion-master in the TT? Tzimisce? Hecata?
>>724454516Interesting.
>>724446572>Malk is the designated slut clan, even more so than tor
>>724445667malk dialogue in this was kinda meh thoughpretending you're a turtle she lost isn't really fun or anything, it's just dumb and ruins the moment imothey should've went with something more serious like making her believe you died and actually a ghost or something like that on the tragic side
>>724444898Tzimisce
>>724444898I got a lore question. So the Sabbat are like vampire ultranationalists or something. They completely despise the idea of the masquerade and being anything but on top of humans and putting the cattle in it's place.How has the Masquerade lasted until modern times? Like I was hearing about shovelheads and shit, and like how the hell have the Cammies even been able to keep the supernatural world hidden when they have these extremists openly doing mass kidnapping, vampire wars, and having shit like the Tzimisce running around? Even if you go all MIB, you're constantly having to play cover for the Sabbat which is actively against the Masquerade. Like I'd be able to suspend my disbelief if this was pre-telephone and news media, but post WW2 it just becomes increasingly inane as the world becomes more interconnected.
>>724456631Mages cover it up
Depends. In Dark Ages: Brujah.In Modern Nights: Tremere or Tzimisce, depending on the sect we are playing.
>>724456631as far as i remember they do have their own idea of a masquerade, they kill witnesses and such
>>724456252Probably Tzimisce if only because of the Animalism+Viccisitude combo. Even a low-tier Tzimisce neonate can slap together a nice-looking szlachta ghoul from a bunch of rats he found in some sewers.
>>724450718when i was drunk with my girlfriend one time, i admitted that i like when she gets a little smelly. she blushed, and said she was hiding her power level, and would skip bathing for like a week when she lived at home. now she does it all the time, and i just ravage her harder and harder the longer she goes without bathing. i think a lot of guys are literally designed around going unga bunga for girl stink, most just don't want to admit to being an ape.
>>724457045Gross
>>724456631Sabbat absolutely adheres to the Masquerade, just their own version of it, because they are evil, not stupid. They have a sense of self-preservation.Sure, you may have some shovelhead fledgeling pack running around and wrecking shit screaming FUCK THE MASQUERADE, but eventually a Tzimisce Bishop shows up and turns them into furniture for being retarded.
I hate this fucking game I hate this fucking game I HATE THIS FUCKING PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT FUCKING GAME WHY WON'T IT JUST FUCKING END ALREADY
>>724456631the sabbat aren't retarded enough to get everyone killed, they're hypocrites. also the vampires iirc got btfoed by humans because schrecknet was discovered by the glowies, and then the main tremere hq and a bunch of cities got wiped out by the vatican and glowies combined
>>724454580i got hard when i realized her voice actress is motoko kusanagi.
>>724457167V5 lore is not a part of my reality.
>>724457178no shit?
>>724454991>>724455169>hello seattle, you're up way past your bed time, aren't you? hope you've snacked on something fattening, i know i have. if you're new to town or just new to this whole feeder thing, you're listening to the flab of night, the only girl who will spend the night emptying your fridge and leave first thing in the morning, guaranteed.
>>724457237yeah, mary elizabeth mcglynn, one of the best voices ever.
>>724457135Sewers?
Ventrue powers in VTMB2 are cracked.Kind of mad about it - Tremere is my default clan but I end up relying on Possession and Terminal Decree on any enemy with a big gun.At least recalling on an enemy and watching them explode is funny.
>>724457449No not the first game, the piece of fuck sequel
>>724457449either he's getting through chinatown or he's playing 2 and is sitting through some fabien shit
>>724457350What a ham beast
>>724456409>they should've went with something more serious like making her believe you died and actually a ghost or something like that on the tragic sidethat's what dominate does>You never saw me, Samantha. I'm dead. This is how you will remember me.
>>724457398wtf i thought she voiced yuthura ban in kotor but apparently it's a different actress with exactly the same voice
>>72445759710 years back, i had some crazy good sex with some ham beasts. they weren't ugly just big. nice and fun, genuinely nice girls. today's ham beats are the fucking devils spawn.
>>724444898>VtMRavnos, love the idea of being a nomadic vampire. Pretty sure most people hate them though kek>VtmBTremere or Gangrel
>>724444898Gangrel...because they're lone wolves for the most part.>>724446667Vampires are one of the many allegories for the Jew in European folklore. just like the witch.
>>724447008time to carve up some sabbat rabble rousers while we're at it!
>>724457662I'm still mad you can't recruit her, such a missed opportunity.
>>724444898Gangrel because it's the drifter literally me clan and being a semi werewolf is also cool as fuck
>>724450015>betyou mean fat of nights right?
>>724457398She also has some serious singing pipes.
>>724457792>Pretty sure most people hate them though kekWe do. Because a) they are REALLY one note, to the point there is not much you can do with them outside of a stereotype, and b) their Weakness is very disruptive to the party. They are the Kender of VtM.
Can there please be a DLC where I can violently torture and murder Fabien? I want to hear him scream and cry and beg for mercy.
>>724458565Thought the main reason was that they're gypsy vampires kek
Is Redemption worth a shit? It's $3 on GOG.
>>724444898>Favorite clanVentrue. They just have that classic Vampire feel to me.
>>724460261If you can bear with combat in the early game and the pathfinding then I'd say yes. If you have trouble getting into older games then no.
>>724460261If you can get through Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, etc., you'll probably power through the jank and have a good time. The writing's awesome.
>>724456631Officially they have no Masquerade, but in reality they have some form of it. Most often we see Sabbat when it's sieging a city that's usually under Camarilla control. Then each Masquerade breach is Camarilla's problem. They use resources and manpower to cover it up, weakening itself in the process. And then Sabbat cities are usually full of gang violence, high crime rates, etc. Places where even police is afraid to enter certain blocks (kinda like in many cities nowadays). It's easy for vampires to hide in such places.
>>724459384That's the reason the writers don't like them, not the fanbase
Did you know that if you're playing VTMB2 in a language other than english, literally none of the clan dialogue options appear? I wonder how that made it through QA.
Someone claimed there's a bill bottle in the game where the label is a tweet that sheds some light on Hardsuit Labs. But nobody has taken a picture.
>>724456631On top of what everyone else said about them being evil not stupid, the end of the masquerade is the END GOAL for them. A world they can be vampires openly and with all the power to keep it that way.Thing is though, they don't have anywhere near that kind of power yet so they literally can't ignore the masquerade (And probably never will get to that point; the end times will come before then, assuming they could ever get there at all of course). If the masquerade was broken on a global scale, virtually ALL super naturals would be fucked, with maybe the exception of some of the mages, though even then it's questionable how much the certainly shifting consensus would affect them.Even werewolves, hell even fucking Mummies and methuselah, as scary powerful as they are simply can't stand against the full force of humanity in it's entirety. Even just humanity's sheer numbers would overwhelm them. Hell just look at how fucked the vamp world is after just the second inquisition! A LOT of people would die in the process yes, but it's generally agreed upon that humans would win in the end. Vampires would be especially fucked given the whole sun situation. Real easy to kill something that's helpless more than half the day every day and dies when just dragged outside.Then add in the technocracy doing everything it could to help cull any supernaturals themselves (And take focus off themselves) and yeah, the Sabbat ain't any less fucked if the Masquerade falls. If anything everyone will blame them and they'd be the first to go.The only ones that might come out the other side of that war not extinct would be the mages (As they're basically still humans themselves, plus the technocracy not even considering themselves magic) and demons. I suppose also Wraiths but well, they're already fucked enough as is...
>>724463226>bill bottle:DDD
>>724461643>>724461168I played NWN1 in the day, and the screenshots reminded me of that, so if it handles anything like that then I'm good.
>>724446260Izzat al-Khunzir?!
>>724457792>>724458565>>724459384People also hate them because because Chimerstry is SUPER fucking broken when used correctly. As in trivializing any encounter broken, combat or otherwise.They can still be a lot of fun if played right though (Don't make them an actual gypsy, have the proper amount of restraint with Chimerstry, etc.). It's just Really hard to play one right. A good ST also helps a lot too, especially if they let you use the old compulsion bane instead of the shit V5 Doomed one
>>724446260Fuck off, faggot. No one wants to talk about your dogshit.
>>724460261janky but comfy and a good story
>>724446260I wonder what the original Gideon/Gardener plot was in the thinblood Fabien storyline.
>>724464209Fuck off, he is a precious angel and I wish I could build a time machine, go back in time, and suck Safia's dick.
Let me guess… you ignore inspection and keep a tab open to know where the location of every item is, don’t you?
>>724463120I saw some people claiming to have never seen clan dialog options. This could be why.
>>724464438You have a thread up already to shill this trash. No one is going to remember it outside of how ass it is. All this dicksucking won't change that it will just show that paradox/tcr are desperate and hire retards to shill their shit.
>>724444898Never played any of the games but I took a test and it said I’m Brujah. Am I based?
>>724449658
>>724464670lol, noyou're a retarded animal
>>724464670Sure, as long as you're not in V5
>>724464670You’re a murderhobo justifying your nigger moments as righteous causes.
I'm about to (next saturday) play my very first game of Vampire the Masquerade, specifically Vampire the Dark Ages. I've decided on playing a Byzantine Theologian turned Tzimisce. What am I in for?
>>724464851https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Sascha_Vykos
>>724464621I can't hear you over the sound of Onda spitting in my ass.
>>724464924Yeah I've seen this guy(?) before. Not exactly the direction I think I'm going for. I kinda want him to justify his weird flesh shit in a weird esoteric orthodox christian way, by claiming he's transforming his own body into the divine body and blood of christ, and that through vicissitude he is becoming a new embodiment of the logos, or something along those lines. Don't get me wrong, still absolutely horrific body horror shit, but in a different way.
>>724463787To be fair, most Disciplines can be fucking broken once the ST sleeps behind the wheel. Because most of them rely on "may I DM" fiat.>tfw that one Lasombra chick in one of our games kept literally using Obteneration to keep pulling some new broken shit out of her ass, because "the book doesn't say you can't do that", to the point a party Tremere had an aneurism.I get that the ST wanted to fuck her, but dude, c'mon.
So what's the consensus on the best patch to use?I've heard that even the Unofficial Patch Basic version makes some changes. How bad is it?Is it worth using the Plus patch for a second playthrough? Lots of people seem to dislike the added stuff.
>>724465197Basic version is fine enough, you're not getting a noticeably different experience from vanilla and the game will actually function. Personally I've been using the Plus Patch for years, never really had the hate boner most do for it.
>>724465197Honestly, for a second playthrough I would've just gone with CQM instead. It already incorporates the UP in it.
>>724464670You're in the angry rebellious biker gang vampire clan. Except rather than being cool biker gang it's more like if college students were trying to act like their idea of a biker gang. The ancient variation of what your clan was like isn't much better.
>>724465197True Gold: Horrendously outdated, won’t run on anything past Windows 7, will never be updated because the creator has TDS and is more interested in the dog and pony show.UP Basic: HAD unnecessary changes before True Gold. NO LONGER has unnecessary changes despite what one (1) person on /v/ claims. Updates to UP Basic aren’t changing item locations or dialogue requirements, they’re more like forcing FPS limits so elevators and doors don’t break and the patch can be run on Windows 10+.UP Plus: This is the one where asinine changes are made with each update for no reason and includes cut content that retards who will never in their lives put a point in firearms as a Toreador because “it’s the social clan” love to bypass the majority of the game’s content.
>>724465353Isn't this filled with shitty fan voice acting.
>>724463239The Sabbat is mess of an organization with conflicting factions that have irreconciliable aims - it's suffered two civil wars already - and which *needs* war as a justification to keep a modicum of cohesion. It wouldn't be able to survive beating the Camarilla without imploding in the process.They claim they don't want a masquerade - and /some/ of their members definitely believe in vampire supremacy - but the war effort demands that they implement one so that they don't get cornered by their enemies. So they do.The Sabbat is a perfect example of a revolutionnary movement turned orwelian state in a way, newspeak included.
>>724464805That's the assamites.
>>724464670You are a human warrior of VtM.Brujah are as basic-bitch as one can get. Their only gimmick is that they are passionate about stuff and they get angry more often. But IMO they are the clan the most in tune with their humanity. Toreador THINK they are the most human of all the clans, but most often than not, they are just cosplaying.
Just checking if I missed something... anyone found out WHY exactly Benny jumped the shark?Or is it a case of we're going to have to wait for the DLC?
>>724465441Eh. The new NPCs are actually voiced pretty well.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x15_-_plYjs&t=15s&pp=2AEPkAIBThe old ones that get new lines in CQM... the actors are doing the best they can trying to mimic them, but you can immediately tell this is no longer Steve Blum voicing Andrei in those new sections.
>>724464670carthage
>>724465942Even if it’s more work, I wish mods that add voice lines to established characters would also replace old voice lines with the new actor’s to have consistency.
>>724465773I blame Lou.Everything can be traced back to Lou being an asshole.
>>724465439>UP Basic: HAD unnecessary changes before True Gold. NO LONGER has unnecessary changesyou can load up vanilla and basic and find changes pretty easily. it's not the egregious changes to music and how disciplines work and stuff like that but it still has dialogue changes, various ambient audio changes, model changes. even wesp admits it still has unnecessary changes and he's trying to remove things as people report them so i'm not sure why you'd try to defend it like this.
>>724466820also even the basic version after the true patch for a while was more like plus-lite and only more recently has he taken it seriously to try and keep the game vanilla, probably after he started getting more and more backlash a few years ago
>>724465105True but even with some of the things you can pull with the other disciplines, Chimerstry really is a beast all its own. Even a good, attentive ST can struggle with someone that's quick and cleaver enough with Chimerstry, particularly those that remember it can hit all senses. It's versatile enough to cover for and counter a lot of other disciplines even at just level one and just seems to grow exponentially from there. That's not to say you can't break the game with other disciplines, it's just typically not as Easy or powerful right out of the box. There's a reason Ravnos are banned at a lot of tables...
>>724465093depends on the Road you select for your character then
>>724467514Sure. Come to think of it, nobody in our group ever played a Ravnos or met a Ravnos NPC. We just kinda assumed this clan is conceptually lame and never gave it a second look.And I was in a group that thought Kiasyd was the coolest shit on the planet, so we had no standards.
Paradox usually make news announcements about Bloodlines 2 around this time each week. So I'm hoping that we get some news on what they plan to do with this game very soon. There's also a patch that they said would be coming this week, but who knows.
Was this the most pathetic attempt at nostalgia baiting in video game history?
>>724467983Yeah the Ravnos Whitewolf and especially the ones paradox made are very badly portrayed and are quite lame when played how they want you to play them BUT there's actually some really interesting stuff to work with buried in there if you trim the fat and ignore the stupid shit. Kind of like the Salubri; once you get past the whole snowflake "Only good vampires" shit (so basically just ignore all of v5 when it comes to them lol), and maybe homerule the third eye stuff a bit, they have a lot of potential. Like their old disciplines are kind of neat and the whole voluntary diablerie they practice can make for some very interesting plot points.
>>724468075I want them to add the Sabbat path, where my Phyre fuck Safia so hard, he cures her madness and makes her forget all about the fat bastard.
>>724468257Nah, it's unobtrusive, doesn't feel shoved in, and is basically a cameo. Damsel doesn't feel any different to any other character in the game.
I was actually excited to be able to play a Lasombra in VTMB2. Too bad the game is a trash fire.
>>724468257Is she really still in the sequel even after the whole studio change and rework?
>>724468343>Kind of like the Salubri; once you get past the whole snowflake "Only good vampires" shitSalubri are funny, because they have this "the only good ones" narrative going on... while the overwhelming majority of them hangs out with FUCKING SABBAT.I actually dislike them for a different reason. Because the narrative around them keeps implying that you are not allowed to play a purely good-aligned vampire unless you are a Salubri, which is some bull.
>>724468359The popularity of BG3's evil choices, especially the new ones they patched in, could be a compelling argument for improving that.On a related note, the lead gameplay designer has said that complaints about the inability to stealth through missions is "on his radar" so in a few months stealth fans might be a lot happier.
>>724468510She is revealed as the "mystery" character in the final parts of the game and gets like 20 seconds of screen time and disappears without any impact on the story.
>>724468536Sabbat Sulabrui are fun, but anything else in Modern nights feels kinda wrong DA is a different story
>>724450015Garbage. Deb had a warm comfy feeling to her show and voice. Bet just sounds like a judgemental bitch.
The poorer I become in real life the more of a vampire I feel like. Night shift work, sleeping in a shithole, not having enough to eat or drink, and my only entertainment is what I can siphon off of “shrecknet” using the McD’s wifi.
>>724469147“Sultry” is a chauvinistic term, jackass.
>>724450015One of the things about Bet is that she gets killed late in the game by a crazed person who thinks she is a vampire. But she does rush to an ad break in the first episode when someone mentions his wife coming back to life and taking items of sentimental value from the house.I think she's more likely to be a ghoul. It would explain why she was killed.>>724469147Deb is an early 2000s style radio host. Bet is very different. I know people are going to be little bitches about the fact VTMB2 has completely abandoned the aesthetics of its predecessor, but there's nothing really wrong with the show. It's just how radio shows are now.
>>724469301>It's just how radio shows are now.You mean garbage?
Regarding Bet, I hope that they patch the game so that her show plays in locations around the hub. Because it's very dumb that it only plays in the hotel lobby.
I just finished this and really enjoyed it and I believe I got the best endingRuthless Lasombra through and through, blackmailed everyone, got what I wanted and became Primogen for the clan. Lasombra in Chicago are ecstatic at how well I didJulia is based. I've heard Reckoning is shit but I'll still try it out to finish the trilogy of them. These are kino.
>>724469342No, just different. It's not 2004 anymore.
>>724469363Reckoning is a baffling game, and Paradox literally refused to publish it. They had to find someone else to do it.
>>724469363>have to play as a BPD dykePass.
>>724469434>No, just different.Yes, by different you mean worse. You won't gaslight me into liking garbage. And pointing out the year means nothing.
>>724460261Yes. Serena is my waifu.
>>724457178Bloodlines 1 had an all-star line up of VAs>>724468257I hated her new voice it's terrible
>>724468694Pretty much every bloodlines 1 reference could be removed from 2 without impacting the game much, it's like they made an entirely unrelated game and then went "oh shit, quick, throw some shit in there to remind people it's a sequel">>724469301The part that makes me cringe about bet is the fact she's blatantly trying to crib off deb "bet of night" made me ltierally say "oh fuck off" outloud.
>>724469501We tolerate Deb of the Night because that's how radio shows were back then. We don't judge it by modern standards.
>>724469524>Bloodlines 1 had an all-star line up of VAsHonestly, the Bloodlines 1 cast was mostly American game/animation people. Bloodlines 2 leans way more into British theatre/TV actors. So, so many people from Doctor Who.
>>724465439>True Gold: Horrendously outdated, won’t run on anything past Windows 7It works on my machine (Windows 10)
>>724469640>Windows 10enjoy getting hacked
>>724469568You can tolerate whatever you want. I won't tolerate a garbage radio show that copies a better one from 2004.
>>724444898SetiteGiovanniAssamiteand every bloodlines and african clans of course
>>724469301>she does rush to an ad break in the first episode when someone mentions his wife coming back to life and taking items of sentimental value from the house.she also says that the wife faked her death to live with another man in that section
>>724469363You might already know this, but Reckoning has two protagonists. If you find the first one insufferable, as I did, tough it out, because the second guy is a lot more fun.
>>724469564>it's like they made an entirely unrelated game and then went "oh shit, quick, throw some shit in there to remind people it's a sequelThis is exactly what fucked them. If they ditched the bloodline name after the dev swap people would probably be much less butthurt.
>>724470014It set up expectations and a lot of people hadn't been keeping up with the disasterous development.
>>724469515Your waifu is going to die an excruciatingly painful death from the hands of Augustus Giovanni and his goons.How do you feel about it?
>>724469434>>724469568Anon (actually a shill), you do know there's a reason Raw Time blew up with zoomers and alfies when they found clips of it on YouTube, right? You do know there's a reason nobody cares about any modern "radio show" that isn't a boring podcast with nobodies, right? It's called soul.
>>724470014It would still be a pile of dogshit, just one that nobody really cares about.
>>724470163Eeeh... the game is okay, as a one playthrough and your done type, replaying it seems like it'll be annoying as fuck with the fabien sections, and if I have to do some actual nitpicking the combat gets very samey after a while and I swear the game just throws combat arenas at you after a certain point, I felt like I'd sneak past some bullshit and then come across a padlock that I wasn't allowed to rip off until I cleared out all the enemies, I think I easily outdid benny for skullcrushing thinblood anarchs and I wasn't even trying to hunt down the stupid fucks.
>>724450320Do vamps even really need to bathe in the first place? No sweat, no sebum, presumably no living bacteria on their skin. Presumably youd need to clean yourself of any blood on you if you got messy during a feed or any dirt or dust acucmulated on you or your clothes fro. just being around but apart from that, there's no actual need to.
>>724445090the myths around the Nictuku are cool too
>>724447297Magikarp Werewolves. High level Protean is pretty versitile and basically becomes more like elemental shapeshifting.
>>724449629Fuck you.
>>724469301>I know people are going to be little bitches about the fact VTMB2 has completely abandoned the aesthetics of its predecessor>makes a poor copy of the predecessor>if you don't like it you're a little bitchyou're dumb as shit my dude
>>724470635>presumably no living bacteria on their skinnigga they are a literal fucking corpse, they probably have to wear a ton of perfume to mask their stench, don't wanna image nosferatu problems
>>724468510For the entirety of 30 seconds give or take.
>>724470825Your dumber for replying to bait.
>>724449536Aren’t these niggas retconned
>>724470828>>724470635They aren't rotten dude, they tend to smell of wherever they've been hanging out, or not much of anything, to the point of being conspicious, that sort of thing is how Werewolves can often spot them, the lack of BO at a certain point starts to get suspicious, so if anything perfume might be used to mask the fact they don't smell of anything.
>>724470849no, there is definitely a small group of people who act like that and think any negative criticism of 2 is completely uncalled for.
>>724470901who cares about V5
>>724470901Renamed actually, og name was racist or some shit, that happened to a couple things.
>>724469780Yes, but the far more likely answer is that the wife is a vampire.
>>724470752sex with moody blood mages
>>724471062as of 2024 the camerilla's little rules include "you better not be fucking around with smartphones" and "do not even talk to people from your mortal life." though that latter one was kindof always a thing.That shit is why nix got in trouble, the second inquisition is not fucking around.
How's your Vampire Unbound game coming along guys? You do want good Vampire games released right? You're not just complaining without doing anything about right?
>>724471009I guess because it mixes Chinese and JapaneseThe Banu Haqim is just an endonym turned exonym, you can still call them Assamites to be rude if you like
>>724471145The joke is that Ali is actually really nice and pleasant, if a bit autistic.
>>724471249I think the reason they retconned their name from Assamites is because it sounds like you have mites in your ass
>>724471249yeah they never internally referred to themselves as such.
>>724471249So is there is a reason why the Followers of Set got renamed to Ministry?Ministry is a 2000's goth band, not a vampire clan.
>>724471381>Ministry is a 2000's goth bandfitting for VTM then
>>724445967you never seen crack or meth addicts running from the cops?
>>724471381it's a reference to the ministry of darkness from professional wrestling (gangrel the vampire wrestler was in it)
>>724471204It's doing great actually. I already have the setting, NPCs and mechanics penned out. Now I need some publisher to sponsor the actual game development for me.
>>724471457>gangrel the vampire wrestler was in itkino times. It even sounds like something from VTMBhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALFMYWFRjQs
>>724471381basically in v5 there was a big shakeup of the clans and a lot of them had schisms and splits especially the ones that had super rigid internal structures, the tremere's HQ got nuked by humans for example, so a lot of west coast tremere are not in the pyramid and have noped the fuck out of that.for the followers of set, the big thing is that the "follower of set" thing comes from a really wierd belief that set is the father of vampires not caine, anyways they're kindof a cult as much as a clan, apparantly they tried to join the camerilla but got told to fuck off so I have to assume it was an attempt to clean up their image because "setite" tends to make most vampires want to ash you on princible.
>>724471381Buck broken by Kemintiri
>>724471406They even did a song in Bloodlines>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Eh7PV0h84
Ok, my bad, Ministry is a 1980's goth band. I was sure they are younger than that.
>>724450559Based on the limited interaction you get with her, it seems to be semi-conscious baby vampire that can communicate with its mom in some manner.I have no idea what the fuck that way about, by the way. Really seems to serve no purpose but to demonstrate that Fabian's memory has more holes in it than a screen door and that he himself has done some questionable shit, but could alsonbe excised completely and not affect the overall story in any way. Its just like a "by the way here is some exceptionally fucked shit that also happened, not important though and doesnt actually have any bearing elsewhere and wont be brought up again at any point."
>>724471861Well I mean, she's a malkavian so it might just be her being fucking nuts.
>>724471845ministry is more industrial than goth
>>724471861I think the pregnant vampire should've been a side quest, like you said at the moment it just seems out of place since it isn't brought up again in the main story. If it was a side quest it would've been something cool and fucked up that adds something interesting to the world but doesn't feel out of place if it's never brought up again
>>724471992Sure. They overlap quite a lot a in a general goth culture.
>>724456631They are clusterfuck of conflicting ideas because for the longest time they were the unplayable bad guy faction opposed to the Camarilla. It's how you end up with Christian vampires who hate demons and their worshipper playing on the same team with vampires that made a pact with a demon while practicing pagan and completely inhuman rituals.
>>724472349I am pretty sure they were playable since 2e.
>>724472129yeah, somebody said clubs used to basically play goth and industrial for the same crowds until it split for some reason later. some people don't like them being lumped together but they almost feel like two sides of a coin to me. skinny puppy is a good band who feels like a mix of both, and they collaborated with al jourgenson from ministry a long time ago. although they seemed to kind of hate him later lol.
>>724472543I think the Path of Christ and whatever the Muslim one is called is reasonable. Just because you’re an undead being doesn’t mean you can’t seek salvation from an all loving god
>>724472349>Christian vampires who hate demons and their worshipperAre we talking about Lasombra who shizoed themselves into actually believing in God or the path of Christ vampires?
>>724470102She's such a goth gf waifu she canonically survives the purge. No lie.
>>724472349The sabbat basically wound up picking up a disparate bunch of smaller factions that needed a sect but were incompatible with the camerilla for one reason or another.
Too bad Ravnos gets a lot of hate, seems like the most freedom you can have as a kindred. They would be my first pick.
>>724472580I remember the good ol' days, where the "alternative" subculture was essentially a hogdepodge of goths, metalheads, punks, industrialists and Satan knows what else. And we all overlapped a lot. It was actually a pretty concise and tighty-knit company, even though we barely had a lot in common outside of our love of nerd shit.
>>724473119>Surviving both this disaster as well as the later Giovanni purge, Serena emerged in modern nights in Jerusalem after the formation of Clan Hecata, now assuming the surname "Praha".Fuck off.
>>724473394Never a part of the subculture, but ran alongside it and they were always a chill bunch of people. Would probably be called woke these days which is funny
>>724446495yep, I liked how self-aware the devs were of the copypasted generic NPCs, still like that they made the stand-out ones ... well, really stand out
>>724464438you were almost good until you turned it gay
>>724473261Tremere are probably still hated more
>>724473261I don't know much about them, but why the dislike? Are they not just the sneaky thief/rogue faction?
>>724473487I used to be a metalhead that had a nerdy goth gf, hung out with another two metalheads with either goth or industral gfs and had a bunch of punk friends, including one girl that could never decide if she's punk, goth or industrial, so she was going with all three at once. And they were all the nicest people on the planet. Maybe the punks were a bit too political and had to be pacified at times. And all of us were cultivating this scary "Satan worshipper" image, because we just wanted to be left alone. If we wanted a newcomer in our TT games, we would invite you. Otherwise, fuck off, we eat cats.
Do we have a thread up for 2? Don't wanna enshitten this one with my complaints about it
>>724474018This is the thread
>>724473726That's just jealousy
>>724474018Making a VTMB2 thread attracts the schizos, steam chart thread users and everything else. Post your shit in here, it's been heard a 100 times anyway.
Bloodlines 2 just made me want a proper Dishonored style VtM game, maybe a Banu Haqim doing assassinations or something. There are cool game ideas that aren't RPGs
>>724470752sex
>>724470752Case in point, you know that thing is hairy
>>724474113Stake yourself, usurper
>>724444898anyone who says anything other than malkavian is a contrarian larper
>>724474331Love me some hairy puss
>>724474407malkavian is a lame gimmick, not the real game
>>724445368>tfw no schizo gigaslut malk gfwhy even live
Love me some WoD werewolvesI wish ecoterrorists were real
So in V5 Nosferatus don't automatically break the masquerade by being seen, but their bane severity goes up with blood potency. Does this mean a Nosferatu with high enough blood potency would be so monstrous that they would break the masquerade by being seen?
>>724474119I just played the section that most perfectly encapsulates everything about TCR's gameplay design. The whole Willem thing>track down a ghoul in some industrial complex>after a short conversation he screams at you and seemingly teleports you>run through a hallway of mannequins>this is kinda creepy actually, mannequins/statues are a bit overplayed but still work>come back to the main area and fight like 5 thinbloods>attack the last one, it turned out to be the dude again who didn't just flee for some reason>turns out he's making you hallucinate, pretty good hook cause a nosferatu shouldn't be able to do that>he screams at you again and knocks you into another hallucination>traverse the same hallway again, the positions of the mannequins are slightly changed>come to main area>suddenly mannequins start spawning in mid air and fighting you>have to fight like 20 of them>the last one is the dude again who still didn't run away>he screams at you again>IT FUCKING REPEATS THE EXACT SAME THING AGAIN>next time you beat him, you're now watching conversations he had because something something memories>can only progress by either finding his stealthed body with vampire senses, or finding 5 gramophones with vampire senses who disappear when you get close enough and look at them (??????????)>short conversation plays>dude has a suicide vest and explodes>it knocks you into a Fabien flashback>investigate a murder>find potion>run to Tremere lady (30s even with the speedup)>she tells you it's for memory after 3 lines of dialogue>run to Safia (60s)>she tells you it's for enhancing after 3 lines of dialogue>run to Tolly (60s)>mindread him so you know you have to get to Willem after 3 lines of dialogue>meet Willem>short conversation triggers another flashback to the 1920s>no walking this time cause they couldn't be assed to make 1920s Seattle>flashback only exists for the reveal that Willem is the next Isaac which doesn't mean anything
>>724474236If the patent to the nemesis system ever gets released I want a dark ages game where you’re battling vamps and inquisitors while recruiting your coterie
>>724474496You want your malk gf to peg you?
>>724474540>So in V5 Nosferatus don't automatically break the masquerade by being seenArguable. Their bane states that they have a negative modifier to trying to appear human. So mortals at the least would know they arent human if they arent obfuscating.
>>724474542I ran out of characters but only had one more thing to sayIt's fine when the shill says the story is great because that's subjective so it's easy to shill about it, but EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF GAMEPLAY is complete and utter dogshitMost emblematic of the combat was in that section underground where hunters are fighting the abominationsIn every single other game like this, I would have gladly jumped straight down into the chaos with my fun powers to annihilate both of them. In this game, I went "oh thank god they're killing each other so I can just wait it out"
>>724474550You could also make a cool city building game where you have to balance the needs of the vampires in the city and the mortals, dealing with masquerade breaches ect
>>724474542>ghoul
In what should I put my starting skill points as a Nosferatu?
>>724474693Yeah my bad, I'll get over it though. The ghoul was the dude who got murdered, Dale
>>724474639It's seems they've gone the route of most only being ugly enough to be seen as deformed/diseased/extreme body modification but not outright monstrous.
>>724474560yes
>>724474540>So in V5 Nosferatus don't automatically break the masquerade by being seenSome, it's a roll of the dice. Some look like deformed elephant man types, but still within the realm of normal, others are clearly supernatural.
>>724474697what playstyle do you want to play?
>>724474245I severely dislike the AI Aisling.Here's the cute Aisling I nutted to a lot back in the day.I liked this art so much I actually bought the novel just to have this art on my shelf.
>>724465105I would totally want to fuck a hot chick playing Lasombra.
>>724474737Willem looks pretty monstrous. Tolly could probably get away with being outside but no one would look at Willem and think he's just diseased.Anyway, like all TTRPG, its up to your game master what is and isnt a violation. Nosferatu getting a negative modifier to attempting to look human means your game master could easily count mortals seeing you as a masquerade violation
>>724474868>no one would look at Willem and think he's just diseased
>>724474867Whether she was hot or not was debatable, but the guy was definately desperate.
>>724474796Stealthy, I guess. I've heard that putting too many points in stealth is a waste however.
>>724474868>Tolly could probably get away with being outsideNTA but you do actually meet him outside and inside a hotel lobby at one point, although he could be using obfuscate on mortals to look different
>>724468365>it's unobtrusive, doesn't feel shoved inThe mic quality is noticeably different, she only sticks around for like 30 secondsNah she felt very out of place.
>>724474943the obfuscate discipline completely negates the need for the stealth skill, lockpicking, hacking and obfuscate are all you really need for a stealth nosferatu but you will need at least some combat skills for later in the game, they have potence to counteract that a bit though
>>724474927Willem doesnt look like this
>>724469363Replay it for the second ending. Skip most things and focus on those choices that matter.Reckoning is weird. First you play as a Ravnos girl and it's kinda ok. Then you play as the other protagonist and for the big chunk of game, you're basically replaying the first part, but with some insight and inner monologue from your current character. Also the art look very AI-like, despite devs claiming that it's not an AI. I don't know if I trust them.
>>724446667Like >>724452023 said, Ventrue, for example, aren’t meant to represent Jews. Clans in VtM are meant to represent a vampire archetype. For Ventrue, this is vampire aristocracy. Closest comparison to real life is obviously actual aristocracy, when it still mattered. In ”modern nights” Ventrue represent C-suite and ownership class as well, but that is not the sole domain of Jews, lol.
>>724475068Thank you!
>>724474943Putting max points in stealth makes you almost invisible to enemies. And that's on top of Nosferatu's Obfuscate that literally makes you invisible. So yeah, it might be a bit of an overkill. But you'll be have a surplus of skillpoints anyway, because you can't put any in Appearance. So just go nuts with hacking and lockpicking.
Official list of abilities that are worth getting no matter which clan you are>Ventrue possession so you can make them kill each other>Toreador perk to automatically recharge Locate abilities>Lasombra shadow step to teleport to the few guys who aren't near someone else to kill themThat's it. This way you can skip the shitty combat. Remember that you don't actually have to buy abilities with skill points to get the perk, you just need to unlock all of them and then you get the perk automaticallyUnlocking all the Toreador stuff also lets you fuck the only hot girl in the game
>>724471204>Vampire Unbound>V5>goodYeah, right...
>>724475161Cheers!
>>724474935Disappointing
>>724475184it's weird how they only let you do this if you use V5, like it's not an official VtM game, just let people use the other editions
How realistic are we about getting decent updates for 2? I know it won't get the cyperunk treatment but hopefully something.
>>724475554You'll get the season pass dlc then that's it
>>724475278Also if you max out lockpicking you are also going to have 5 stealth since you need dexterity for lockpicking and dexterity also raises stealth
>>724475554Bug fixes, DLC, that's it. No one is overhauling that shit
>>724475395I guess they have to promote that V5 abomination somehow. I am more surprised they haven't yet cracked down on those print-on-demand V20 books that still keep selling. Just like WotC nuked every edition other than 5e from the retail shops.
>>724475554They literally just dropped a new update>In future updates, we’re looking at including features such as an FOV slider, new save game options, custom difficulty settings that include the ability to play only Phyre’s side of the story on your second playthrough, as well as additional customization options.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/532790/view/586156994614788155
>>724475723Yea, so they claim they will be dropping "regular" updates through 2025 and into 2026. So hopefully we get a new update every two weeks or something.
>>724475723They're doing story DLCs where you can play as other characters, hopefully they do a Nosferatu one. I'd actually be excited for that, even if only a little
>>724475395But older stuff is problematic with today's sensibility, especially in a very leftist Sweden. Previous editions weren't made by them, so possibly they don't want to be associated with them. It's to the point that when there were still coming out some books for Mage or Werewolf 20th Anniversary Edition, they did not advertise them at all. When final W20 book was having a campaign on Kickstarter I asked on the official WoD Discord why isn't it mentioned anywhere? I got "Not to confuse players" answer. Only the 5th edition matter, the rest might not exist. Go to the discord and mention that you're playing V5 but are using some rules from V20. The people they cultivated out there will eat you alive.
>>724475919Aren't those just more shitty walking sims?
>>724475554The thing with Cyberpunk is that it was an anomaly. Say what you will about CDPR, but they actually gave a fuck, because Cyberpunk is their flagship IP they invested a lot of money in. Paradox just wants to cut their losses and run.Also, Cyberpunk had a solid core underneath. Maybe it wasn't a robust cRPG most autists wanted, but it was a mechanically competently designed game, so it was much easier to salvage. Even back in 2022, Cyberpunk was simply fun to play when it wasn't glitching out.Bloodlines 2 isn't. It's fundamentally broken on a conceptual level. So, no. I don't see them salvaging this shit.
give it to me straight gamershow is the new one?
>>724476032Nothing is problematic.
>>724476081barely functional
>>724476081dead, and not in a good way
>>724476081ok
>>724476081it's phyre fr fr no cap
>>724476081somewhere in the middle between dragon age 2 & veilguard. closer to the veilguard though.
>>724476073No, because both the Benny and Ysabella DLC will include new combat mechanics for both characters.>Even back in 2022, Cyberpunk was simply fun to play when it wasn't glitching out.Not really. Combat was incredibly undercooked. The hacking was shit. Cyberpunk was a very typical Polish game where the art department was in charge and the gameplay designers played second fiddle. Nothing about Cyberpunk 2077 in its original incarnation was very fun to play. It was all just incredibly bland and rushed.>Bloodlines 2 isn't. It's fundamentally broken on a conceptual level.Bloodlines is the opposite, though. It has very good core gameplay that needs a bit more refinement. Its problems are different in nature.
>>724476081Forgettable.All I'll remember from is a secret villain reveal. Just because it's so fucking stupid.
>>724476165>Come closer, let me take a look at you… Yes, I’ve seen your face before. The one in my dreams…
>>724476373Spoil it for me.
>>724476165It's up to like 56% now, and will presumably improve more and more as they patch the bugs and issues.>>724476081It's the best vampire game ever made. That's the simplest way of putting it.
>>724476369>because both the Benny and Ysabella DLC will include new combat mechanics for both characters.Source on this?
>>724476081Not the most insulting thing I’ve ever played but still pretty meh. I think I’m just dried out because I was pretty much expecting it to be shit for a while so the few nice bits are a pleasant surprise
>>724476081subpar slopit wont break even
>>724476473https://store.steampowered.com/app/3996820/Vampire_The_Masquerade__Bloodlines_2__The_Flower__the_Flame/>Her art skirts the boundaries of life, of undeath, of Blood, and of the social mores of Kindred society. But she still burns for that glorious moment of transcendence, when her mastery will shape a work that echoes through eternity.>For this, she will become a legend. However, every masterpiece needs a canvas, and there is much work to be done.>Experience Ysabella's dark artistic journey as she seeks to create her magnum opus in this Story Pack.>Contains new playable story content, combat mechanics, and Phyre outfit.
>>724476081Combat isn't as bad as people say it is, I found it fun but a little clunky, not good enough to carry the whole game though. Stealth is your typical AAA shit, no light/dark detection, only thing that effects sound is how fast you move. It's open world but the only thing to find is stupid collectibles, side quests are pure dogshit, pretty much no story to them and it's just "go here, find/kill x".The main story is interesting enough, the only choices that change the ending are in the last 2 hours of the game and they only change the final ending slideshow. You can't change the outcome of anything that happens in the game no matter what you choose, on the first playthrough it might seem like it, but it doesn't, everything plays out the same no matter what you do. Some gay shit throughout the game but only thing that was enough to irritate me was the gay Nosferatu.My verdict is it's good enough to pirate and playthrough once but that's it
>>724476435Your dorky waifu, the nicest girl in the whole game? She's the main villain.Doofy Gilmore was the killer.Also, her motivation is batshit.
>>724476540What makes you think the game won't sell millions of copies long term as they update it and add DLC? Other than you not wanting that to be the case?
>>724476565>DLC for fucking YsabellaWhat the fuck were they thinking? Nobody cares.
>>724476668can you please fuck off, shill?
>>724476659>Doofy Gilmore was the killer.Uh... I think you may have misunderstood the plot of Bloodlines 2.
>>724476668>SAR YOU WILL DO THE NEEDFUL AND MAKING GAME SELL THE TRILLION COPIES SAR
>>724476696Ysabella is awesome. They should have made a DLC where you manage Atrium and fuck hot white women, though.>>724476701So you're just coping, I take it. Bloodlines 2 has already sold over 500,000 copies across all platforms. They are working on improving aspects of the game that people complained about, from stealth design to Fabien's sequences being a drag during replays. They will be releasing regular updates over the next several months as well as paid story DLC next year. There doesn't seem to be a huge cause for alarm here. Yes, Paradox did the Paradox thing. But if they plug away at it, the game's sales and user reviews will climb and climb and climb.
>>724476081this is an animation from the gameno, this isnt fake, this is ACTUALLY what it's like
Sexy.
>>724476908Ysabella is an obnoxious retard cunt. I bet she sits online crying about AI all day whenever she's not at her shitty club.
>>724474236If you have Oculus, you can try the demo of VTM Justice, which is basically what you descibed. I did and it was ok, but you should definitely wait for a sale.
>>724476994Nice to see they've continued the trend of animation quality falling apart at the end of a Bloodlines game because the devs ran out of time.
the twat is back
>>724476994Well, there's a reason for that.
>>724477109The Ravnos are at it again
>>724477102It's insane how obvious the shill is
>>724476994WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT!?
>>724476994Damn, I love the visual design of the final boss arena so much.
>>724476730It's explained who did the killings in the 1920's but they didn't do the killings in the present time, one of the suggestions is that it could be Fabien, but it's never properly revealed
>>724477102>the twat is backThe lack of self awareness is hilarious.
>>724477272mad cos your game sold like shit?keep crying, pajeet
>>724477250It was possibly Fabien, it was possibly Safia, or third option, there were no modern day killings.
>>724476994Grim.
>>724477335Nah, as a VTM fan I'm used to modest sales. I think it's a shame they're closing down Bloodhunt though because the numbers clearly show that multiplayer games are what fans want from VTM.
>>724476994Poor, poor Safia.
>>724477436>multiplayer games are what fans want from VTM.Suck the shit out of my asshole you fucking faggot zoomer. Not everything has to be online live service slop.
>>724477354I like the idea it was Fabien, fitting for a Malk. He seems really nice but his Malk side can turn him into a psycho killer under the right circumstances
>>724476081their merch is just like their game, shallow and soulless
>>724477029It sounds to me like you just don't vibe with modern Toreador. She's very similar to Emem from Swansong, just way more inclined to murder people.
>>724477436Bloodhunt was the only battle royale I've ever enjoyed, but it's not what VtM fans want
>>724477581I vibe with Patience. We agree that Ysabella is an obnoxious, pretentious cunt.
New>>724477781>>724477781>>724477781
>>724477354The third option is interesting. It sorta hinges on the possibility that the rest of the court has gotten so tired of Fabien bringing this shit up year after year, decade after decade, that their automatic response is a "Yes, that's nice dear."Possibly important clue. When Fabien wakes up in his office it's a reference to The Raven. There's a tap, tap, tapping on his door. It's a cold December. He sees ravens on the bottles sitting behind Pandora. I personally think that any scene where Fabien says, "I remember" is probably a scene where he did not in fact remember.But what about Venora's dead sister? That one is tougher. It is possible that Fabien got muddled up, though, and her sister just died under other circumstances. Maybe he read about her sister in the files and concocted these memories of finding her body in the club.
>>724477590>but it's not what VtM fans wantThe thing is, people say a lot of things about what VTM fans want, but Bloodlines flopped, all the VNs flopped, Swansong flopped, Bloodlines 2 flopped.>>724477723True. But you just agree with Patience because you want to suck/lick his/her/their ambiguous genitals.
>>724477941I don't think a proper first/third person RPG would flop nowadays if it was really good. People love RPGs now and RPGs set in the modern day are sorely lacking. If it was done well it fill that niche perfectly and be held up with there with great fantasy and sci-fi rpgs
>>724475723>Player permanently lost jump functionality when spamming jump key while feeding on the Stealth tutorial Ghoul
>>724477941I agree with Patience because she's correct, and I also want to fuck her.
Favorite clan? The one that feels most like this
>>724478541Wrong thread.
>>724478341Practicing Blush of Life with Patience
>>724478717would some nosferatu use blush of life to torture kine and kindred?
>>724478717God I want to blow her back out
>>724478717Looks like a boy
>>724479290You're gay. Boys don't look like that.
>>724479329They definitely do
>>724479358>I like putting big fat cock in my mouth and sucking on itInteresting.
>>724479290That's just a west coast art hoe
>>724457045I've certainly had some times when I got pretty feral and liked the dirty smell of my gf. But in those instances I was half-awake, licking her face, choking her, and even biting her neck and cheeks. Almost all the time I find unwashed scents disgusting, and that's not even getting into the smell of unwashed pussy fucking hell. I will say though I was extremely turned on by a girl I dated years ago that liked me to get sweaty so she could let me rub my balls and gooch all over her face and body.
>>724479290This looks like a dude >>724479239Patience doesn't
>>724478717>>724479151>that one comment when you say you want to taste her again where she implies she immediately gets wet whenever you're around>the one fade to black that seems to indicate she wants to try anal - "not there, THERE"
>>724479406You're the one fucking the tranny
>>724479516>I love bouncing up and down on cockFascinating.
>>724479681Only if it's Jeanettes
>>724479496I will now pirate your game
>>724475919>the DLCs>play as the pretentious darkskinned nog twat>play as the scarred up asshole with a pussy black kid as his fathersonAnd then who's left? Max? Onda's boss bitch adventures? Tolly's sidequest in a bathhouse? Katsumi tardwrangling anarchs?
>>724480413It's absolutely worth a play, but also absolutely not worth giving pair-of-dicks sixty fucking dollars, so yes that is the move.Just dont go in thinking it's a balls-out action game or a shooter. It's like 90% a stealth game and 10% a bullet time telekinesis chess match. If you're in melee and you arent specced specifically into melee combat disciplines you've done something wrong.
