>hard lock-on is finally in Ninja GaidenGamingbrit and Cvit won
who
>>724450886are those subreddits?
If this is the only way to start a Ninja Gaiden 4 thread, similar to that monster hunter thread bait copypasta around a decade ago, discussions of the game deserves to die. Kill yourself OP.
Is this the correct playing order for optimal version for each game:NGBNG2NG3:RE
>>724456130Yes.
>>724450886Kinda funny Cvit still considers NGB to be his favorite game in the series.
>>724450886tried playing on 4k, i get 15fps even though its an ugly game
>>724456947Upgrade.
>>724457219i have a 3080 and its enough for most games at 4k
>>724457296Upgrade.
>>724457370too edgy
>>724456947Works on my garbage laptop that couldn't even run Rise of the Ronin.
I've been trying to use xY to launch without jumping in the air in NG2, and haven't really found a niche for it. It takes a long time to come out, which is fine for the normal Y since you avoid attacks by being in the air, and even when you get it off without getting smacked, there's kind of not much point to it. Sure you can wind path into a flying swallow, but you could do that already a bunch of other ways without risk, and the spacing of it means it usually puts you in a fairly awkward spot for a follow up flying swallow.
>>724457647>too cool and straight for me
>>724457370Doesn't even look at you as he pops your head like a watermelon he's just too tuff
>>724450886Ninja Gaiden 4 will be beloved in 10 years just like how people like 3RE now.
>>724458210Yes. Ryu Hayabusa is a gay icon for a reason
>>724459195Game is pretty beloved right now, probably more so than 3RE actually.
>>724456130just play NG4 bro, its the best one now.
>>724450886Flop of the yearConcord of action games
>>724457647Isn't this just one of Ryu's Lunar OTs from 2 lol
>>724459578No. Ryu in 2 caves the skull of the armless dude before doing a gay push.
Hard lock is detrimental in most situations, you need to be able to look around. The real advance in the game is the marker that tells you who you're targeting
>>724450886It turns out the best way to remove all doubt about how self-defeating a hard lock-on is at almost all times in Ninja Gaiden was to simply add one and let them engage in the folly themselves.
>>724456947how tech illiterate can you be, this is a really optimized game
Maybe it doesn't need a lock-on, but it does need better targeting.The amount of times I'm trying to UT a nearby enemy with the stick pointing right to him, and Yakumo fucks off to the corner of the stage and misses entirely because he decided to target some fucking lantern way out of range was infuriating.
>>724460267Doesn't work on my machine
I'M NOT BUYING OLUTYOU CAN'T FORCE ME TO OLUT
>>724458283You can see by his head's angle that he's actually looking at the enemy. Wouldn't want to destroy his own foot. Smart guy.
>>724460465
TOP 4 NG GAMES1. NG2 (9.5)2. NGB (9.4)3. NG4 (9)4. NG3RE (8)
>>724460465Sometimes I just don't have an issue but some fights it feels like the whole system topples. Hard lock is too restrictive in most situations save for bosses (mostly because the camera sucks).
What will be NG4's fate?>get a million ports/remasters like every other NG>be released into the wild and never touched again like every other platinum game
>>724460465It worked fine for me the overwhelming majority of the time, but in the fake out boss with the Kitsune Courtesan the shit is straight up non functional. Like, it consistently doesn't work.
>>724460905modern games don't do that stuff anymore, even if it was successful the game wouldn't be touched ever again ( LOOK AT DMC5 )action games are just destined to be a dead genre
Oh my god...Ryu's a train autist...
>>724460781NG4 is unironically the best one.
So I finally cleared trial 5 got so frustrated not knowing what to do. Surprisingly cleared it after playing slowly and isolating the enemy.
>>7244607811>4>2>RENot like it matters, I enjoyed them all
>Play as Ryu…>through all the previous levels againwhat is this game doing
>>724450886The lack of directional inputs makes the inclusion of hard-on locking kind of pointless, dunnit?
>>724462062Maybe a little bit. I personally never used hard lock on outside of boss battles since it's useless outside of this one context.
>>724450886>having a good time playing ninja gaiden black on my schteam deck>fmv cutscenes dont work on xemu because of some linux faggotryIs there a solution to this?
>>724461627>Look at DMC5>DMC5 got a Special Edition
>>724461818Ryu in the first Ninja Gaiden1)Ilegally entered their borders, 2)Massacred their border police, armored police, and military force who were all doing their job at trying to stop an illegal that smuggled his way into their nation3)Assassinated the globally recognized leader of the nation4)Casually returned to Japan with no repercussionsHow did 4) happen? Did the vigoorian politicians do nothing? Even if 3) was justified for being an evil hellspawn, what about 2)?
>>724462531That's not a remake though. Im sure ng4 will get a complete edition once all the DLC is out
>>724461968You cuhrayzee dingleberries didn't hate DMC4 enough.
>>724462754He wore a face mask so they have no idea who did it.
>>724462754there is a reason why his fuckbuddy is a CIA glowie.
>>724462062Theres back to forward inputs but I personally still don't have a reason to lock on in a group battle, the targeting is kinda iffy though
>>724462154Honestly even detrimental given how enemies will happily attack from off-screen, meaning you want as wide a FOV as possible instead of focusing on a single dude.>>724462754Didn't you listen to Umi in NG4? Being a Ninja Clan is about more than fancy swordwork and throwing kunai. Clearly they've also infiltrated the Vigoorian government and attributed all those events to various (non-ninja) extremist groups from the surrounding countries.
>>724462784It was re-released for PS5 with extra features that they still refuse to add to PCI'm sure jewish fucks at Capcom are more than happy to re-release all 5 games for PS6 when it comes out
>>724461818and they say ryu doesn't have a personalityi will never understand why some autists get so obsessed over trains/buses
>>724463074That's relative to camera, not relative to target.Directional inputs for hard-ons would be>hold back + light/heavy attack>hold forward + light/heavy attackThen you have back-to-forward as a separate input, allowing you to access more moves with simpler and more consistent strings.But they didn't add that but still added lock-on hardening for some reason. It does help with bosses, but they could've just had different camera rules for boss fights and called it a day.
>>724462467Depends on how you run xemu but if you're running xemu through proton it can be as easy as changing version to ge proton. Hows performance of black? I played through modded master collection on deck and performance has been great but heard issues about emulated black.
I love Seori so much bros........
>>724463491Me too. Glad she died.
>>724462062Hard lock can be useful in situations where you’re trying to get the camera to behave, but yeah generally you only apply it when you’re down to one actually dangerous target.
>>724463231The performance in game was basically perfect maybe a very small amount of slow down rarely if there was a bunch of shit happening on screen, my only issue with it was that it was crashing during FMVs, thanks ill try switching it to ge proton
I think the game overall had a lot of potential. It’s still better than all of modern titles and is in the running for GOTY, but pitted up against the best action games of all time, I starts to drag down with its level and enemy design. Even the weapons aren’t really well designed. The only thing I’ve managed to glean is staff good for crowds and needle good for aerial combos? I dunno.
>>724463830I think the weapons were designed with the feeling in mind rather than function. In ng2 all weapons could be divided into 2 categories: sharp and blunt - cutting and crushing. In ng4 they were going for 4: cutting, crushing, drilling/piercing, and blowing/tearing shit apart.
>>724463491>patented KT dogshit characters and storyI actually bought NG4 to support good shit, but the actual dogshit garbage story and writing made me refund till it's a little cheaper. I'm not paying full price for a half-full package.
>>724463830>>724464393A big issue is the inclusions of moves for the sake of vibes that don't really serve any function. Many of the back-to-front motions amount to "you attack the enemy" without any desirable or distinct property.
>>7244645901) The story is not that bad it's actually good compared to 2 and 3 (I have a soft spot for NGB)2)The gameplay is what matters.
>>724464750>The gameplay is what matters.If this was as absolutely true as its vibe makes it sound, then I'd be playing roguelikes. I'm not because I like to have a nice story, world, and characters around the gameplay. This doesn't. Ergo, 40 bucks is enough.
>>724464867You're in the wrong series then, NG is notorious for having barebone stories.
>>724464590>>724464867what an absolute fucking retard lmao go back to your sony games
>>724455432damn you didnt have to show op your autism level that fast
>>724463635Sometimes hard lockon can open up new moves weirdly enough. For example as ryu when you launch an enemy, do a brief combo in the air, then guillotene throw that enemy mid air, you can follow the enemy and hit him with air gleam with gleam+Y input. This doesnt seem possible if you're not locked on.
>>724464590>story writingSony is that way retard
There was room here for a good story, that's the problem. Black and 2 are set up like 80s/90s action movies, all the games are like that.You have some interesting characters here with the voice comms and the Ryu rivalry but it doesn't really amount to much.When Saori got swallowed by the Street Shark, I just turned my brain off after that.
>>724465381>When Saori got swallowed by the Street Shark, I just turned my brain off after that.They really jumped the shark at this bit
oh yeah 2 had such a good storyhere you're in tokyooh wait you're in new yorknope now you're in a junglefuck off man, it's not good in a le cheesy way it doesn't even have a story
>>724464948Barebones is fine, it'd just be nice if at least the characters and dialogue had something going for them.>>724465326>>724465095>wanting characters to be enjoyable and say and do things that are a little more interesting than stock slop means you want to watch a movieWow, is this the full power of NGtroons?
>>724465457Stories in NG always sucked. Nobody has ever played for the story. No idea why reviewers are talking about how bad the story is like the previous games established an expectation for deep sony tier trash stories.
>>724457296last generation card
>>724465514Yeah man older NGs had soooo many interesting characters like ........ uh ...... . Like we all said go the fuck back no one wants your kind infesting action hack n slash games
>>724465381I feel like NGB also had an interesting story setup with getting revenge, Ryu and Rachel sharing similar goals and maybe bonding over losing a loved one, Doku and the emperor having more presence. There was so many interesting plot points that didn't go anywhere.
>>724464695>without any desirable or distinct propertySome of them instantly launch, go through the enemy, or have a lot of backwards movement like the box's BR X one. Those are effects with uses. If you said the issue is that those are basically the same between each weapon then you'd have a point. Like everything has a BR jump and R1 move that launches you forward or upwards, with only Takeminakata's feeling somewhat unique because of the perching stance.
imagine having your opinions shared by ign reviewers and thinking you're in the right
>>724465524>>724465326>>724465095>SONY SONY SONY SONY SONY SONYNobody is asking for a walking simulator about mental health.If the characters are going to open their mouths at all, they should be saying stuff that's entertaining to listen to. They don't, that's the issue. Good gameplay is essential, everything around it is also essential, otherwise you'd be fine with gray box levels and character models without animations or textures.
>>724465656No one cares you failed game dev, go the fuck back
>>724450886thegamingbrit would love project nortubel
>>724465574Every other game in the genre can have enjoyable characters and dialogue. NG isn't exempt from expectation. Also, what is this retarded faggot logic of "it wasn't in the old games, why are you asking for it". You niggers really are the runts of action game fans, aren't you?
>>724465795Okay, and? What do you want us to do? Stop playing the game because it doesn't have le pizza wahoo man?
>>724465656Nobody cares faggot
>>724465930Huh? I never said anyone should "stop playing the game" or anything like that. Why are you reacting like a woman on her period to>great game, wish the characters weren't so dogshit
>>724465606>Some of them instantly launch, go through the enemy, or have a lot of backwards movementyeah, but there are moves for each weapon that do that already, it's kinda redundant and cosmetic the way they handled it
>>724456651Doubt. I saw his livestrream and it was shit.
>>724456651Who?
>>724465514>say and do things that are a little more interestingKeep your quips out of NG.
>>724466802All Basedjackumo does is Shadow the Hedgelord quips.
>>724466881He doesn't. He antiquip. No bullshit and all business.
>manlet>edgy>black and red clothing>k-pop coded>overdesigned tattoos and hairI can't bring myself to dislike this goober. He's a spastic, pint-sized blender and very fun to play.
>>724465605NGB's story is great. Its a tasteful hero's quest.I don't know what anons want anymore. The protector of a clan's village gets attacked while he's away training, his childhood friend gets murdered, he gets defeated, and they steal the clan's treasure. A defeated man he now has to pick himself up and go get revenge for his waifu and recover the stolen treasure. Along the way he discovers intrigue and conspiracy and rises to the challenge, overcoming his nemesis and avenging his waifu before saving the world.What's missing?
>>724463635I've been playing heaps of NG2 and I've gotten into the habit of mixing in shurikens between my attacks just so I can use it to focus the camera. It sounds asinine but its actually quite good, you want to be slinging out those shurikens anyway. Once I got into the habit of doing that I went from "camera lock on doesn't fit ninja gaiden's combat well" to "why would you even want that?"Does it not work the same way in NG4?
>>724467803You now understand NG.
>>724467803>NG2not Ninja Gaiden , yawn. Black and the nes trilogy, that's it.
>>724468065Ackshually I've played more NGB than NG2. NGB it didn't really matter too much when the camera was off in la-la land. Its only in NG2 when I'm watching for a millinos IS ninjas and dogs trying to grab me all at once while I'm dodging shurikens that its actually a problem.
>>724468214>Ackshually I've played more NGB than NG2. NGB it didn't really matter too much when the camera was off in la-la landSilence Troon, this is why we no longer have good games, adapt to the camera instead of bleeding your neovagina over it you gigantic shitter.
>>724468285Anon I have no idea what you're talking about.I think you're thinking I'm complaining about ninja gaiden not having a lock on camera while I'm saying the exact opposite.
>>724468335NTA but he doing that to gatekeep the shitters that's reading.
>>724468335Fixed angles hurt your neovagina
>>724450886lock on is kinda a shit mechanic that removes a lot of movement and environmental awareness skill, over the years of playing basically every action game ever you kinda learn that it takes away too much for what it provides/makes things to easy and template like.
>>724468592It really depends on enemy behavior.If enemies don't more around erratically or too quickly, it's an ideal way to do target priority, but if they do, then it's a mess and useless.
>>724467008kek, my black ninja blender just arrived yesterday. It's great.
Ryu's Rape & Gape formerly Jô's.
>>724469278the joke is that the establishment used to be named "Jô's Raô and Gaô"
>>724468981even if they do there are better mechanics to keep track than lock on for example a dedicated easy to use button to turn the camera 180 instantly and have semie enemy radars around your character or arouned the edge of the screen kinda like ng4 already does.keeping up with a fast foe should require skill and not be essentially the same as fighting a slow moving foe like it is with lock on.
>>724456947Pentium user I see
>>724459195>just like how people like 3RE now.The only 10 retards
>>724464590Weak emotional faggot, get killed please
>Chapter 19: EBIN WINGS
>>724465514Yeah a really good story really helped GOW, now Kratos is the face of the cuck.. I mean better men
>NG shouldn't try to tell a story>the games on nes had 20 minutes worth of cutscenes
Yaiba wasn't all that bad, better than 3 and 4 actually.>b-butShut up.
>>724470293GoW 1 through 3 had great stories.GoW 4 and 5 have dogshit stories worse than NG4.Try again, troon.>>724470094Says the nigger replying like a weak emotional faggot because I refuse to pay 70 for something worth 40 at best. Kys yourself, kiddo.
>>724470593You see, the problem is it does try to tell a story. If it was just some mission start and end text, that'd be fine, but we've got:>cutscenes>walky-talky segments>non-stop yapping during rail grind segments
>bring me BITCHyu HayaBUSSY
>target runs away>assassination completemaybe the raven clan isn't known because they suck at their job
https://x.com/TeamNINJAStudio/status/1983519192671248422Kneel
The game just got steam points shop
>>724472329>no chibi seori emoticonsIt's over...
/ourguy/ Brain Alert! is making a NG4 video. If he likes it or not. I expect it to be a lot more fair and less autistic than the usual suspects.
>>724472396best girl has an emoji
>make tracking better>fix essence absorption and make UTs less overpowered or balance the game to not want to spam UTs half the time on MN>rework Ninja Coins since they're useless after 4 chapters(either by introducing something in the DLC or just flat out removing them)>more missions and weapons for Ryu>speed up OT animationsWhat else?
>>724463145He slips on Bananas.
Pros:>Camera is actually decent >Decently fun to play a playthrough of the game>Lack of any horrible bosses >Seori boobaCons:>Becomes monotonous after the first playthrough; weapons don't feel distinct enough, bosses tend to play the same way>Soundtrack has some bangers but overall lacking compared to previous titles>Small move list for weapons, no ninpo at all for Yakumo>OLUT timing feels inconsistent compared to past games.>Traversal is (quite literally) too on-rails and does feel as interactive as NGB, also too much non combat filler >Combat trials are gimmicky and boring>No fucking costumes if you didn't pay extra or preorder I give the game a B+Better than the soulsslop being churned out nowadays and better than whatever platinum has been up to lately before this. But it's no masterpiece
>>724472997Don't agree fully with every point but good post.>OLUT timing feels inconsistentElaborate on this though, I have not noticed this and I find it quite easy to do OLUTs consistently.
I love what they did to vangelfs in this game.
More ayane scenes would’ve made this a 10
>>724473809>mfw I don't have Talons anymore to safety delimb Vangelfs and one's about to rape me
>>724472940I'm just a scrub but I thought Ryu played too similarly to Yakumo (or the other way around to be more accurate), and that was before I found out they just straight up gave the Dragon Sword moveset to Yakumo for the final boss. I hope they use the DLC to make them more different from each other. I know all NG characters play kinda samey across the board but I thought Momiji and Kasumi were different enough with their double jump and grab launcher respectively. Gleam feels a bit too similar to Bloodraven.
>>724473447not that guy but airdashes always trip me up when I try to go for those
>>724474637Just do Wind Run into UT, always works for me if there are too many dudes you need to keep track off.
>>7244655623080 is two gens old brothough i don't blame you for forgetting the 50 series
>>724450886The lock on in this game is fucking awful.
>>724472997You're playing a NG game and your complaint is that bosses play the same way?
The game is average overall, and it also fails to live up to the NG name but I still think this is action game of the decade and I'm glad it exists. This subgenre is so barren and fell off a cliff since the ps3 era that it's no wonder only abrasive autists thrive in it.
>>724475680Yes, the fact that the story is bad is also a valid complaint. Even if this shit has always been bad, that doesn't change the fact that it's still bad. But you know what they say, do it once and it's a mistake, do it twice and it's tradition, or something
I wonder if these subhuman tourists think DMC5's story is amazing
>>724450886This game makes ME berserk. I just want to keep taking risks and throwing Yakumo into battle with low odds. Getting hit just pisses me off and makes me want to massacre the enemy.
The crowd control in this game is shit.
>>724456130>Fell for the memeJust play 2 black
>>724465605I like NGB's story. The diaries you read show the black spider clan as not some evil generic ninja clan but actually trying to do good. The epilogue where Ryu goes back to that lady's that was killed by doku in the beginning(whose name I dont know) gravestone and gives back the pendent is a really sweet moment. There's enough there to infer what she meant to him, but without Ryu giving some corny dialogue that every other action game would be guilty of. Then he just flies away.
https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenfour/mods/19?tab=descriptionreally important mod
>>724475680When the bosses don't play the same way the complaint is that they are too "gimmicky". Then I ask for a game with "good bosses" and the answer is always silence.
I love Magatsuhi.
>>724476353Yeah like I don't think NG4 is the best video game ever but some of these complaints are so awful, the story being bad is the worst one.What the fuck did people want? A 30 hour game that talks about the human nature??
>>724465381I actually cared a little bit about Seori even if we put her looks aside, so I thought that was already a good job in the context of the series. I hate Rachel, Sonia was alright but then they turned her into a helpless damsel in distress, whatsherface in 3 was lame.
How do I get S ranks with Yakoomer? I'm stuck at getting A ranks.
>>724476809I never understood the Rachel hype either, DoA has better blonde girls anyway.
>>724477012she's hot
>>724477163she's a duck-faced abomination
>>724477481you're just safe horny
>>724475680I'm just saying they all do a thing that you can easily block and then you BR attack them when they glow red with the occasional hit in between. It's like if the whole game was Genshin 1 or Wolf. I felt like the doppelganger fights in NGB and RE were better than most of what we got here. NG4 bosses feel like fighting Volf and Genshin over and over again. Maybe it's Stockholm syndrome but I cam to appreciate stuff like dragon skelly, giant skelly, dinosaur, etc. Stuff like Doku and Genshin are fine but does it have to be every boss?
>>724476809These two characters don't look like they belong in the same game. She looks like xenoblade or even genshin impact character.
>>724477720I meant in NG1She looks aight in DOA
>>724477849GO BACK TO HELL GENSHIN
>>724477802I took a pause while writing this and I realize I wrote the same thing twice, excuse my niggery. The point is I didn't really see the big difference between fighting DDO samurai guy, Kagachi, the stupid shrine idol thing, the Roomba and so on. Maybe the shark was the exception since it does all this swimming and can do a grab so you can't just stand next to waiting for it to glow red.
>>724476217I wish I could play Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II.I wish I wasn't an incompetent loser poorfag so I could afford an Xbox.I wish I wasn't a low IQ subhuman so I could at least emulate these games on PC.Why is life so unfair? Why am I an incompetent loser poorfag? Why am I a low IQ subhuman? Why am I brown? Why am I ugly? Why am I an incel? Why do I have a small penis? Why am I short?I hate this... I don't want this... I will cope...I will cope by pretending Ninja Gaiden Smegma, Ninja Gaiden Smegma 2, Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, Ninja Gaiden 3, Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge are also good NG games, eventhough deep down I know they are not.I will lie to people who don't know better and recommend them to play these inferior versions.I will lie that the shitty guesswork mod of Fiendbusa somehow magically makes Smegma 2 the definitive way to play, eventhough modded Smegma 2 still has missing code, enemy AI and features.I will lie about the fact that NG3:RE was my first introduction to the franchise and will try to gaslight others into believing that NG3:RE has the best combat and is the most difficult game in the franchise.I will never ever be a True Ninja Gaiden fan.True Ninja Gaiden fans recognize my behavior, laugh at me and spit on me.This is who I am.I am a secondary, a coping secondary.I will always be a secondary, a coping secondary.And that is okay.
>>724478387Why don't game covers look this cool anymore? It's so simple yet every AAA game fails to do a good cover for a game in the last decade.
>>724478731NG2 cover is no different than the generic FPS man walk toward screen template.
>>724478179>between fighting DDO samurai guy, KagachiI can get thinking those two are samey but saying there's no "big difference" between them and a tank that drives around spamming projectiles and lasers just because they all use power attacks, a basic game mechanic, is stupid.
>>724450886Yknow what? I'm kinda digging the rave zombie segments.
>>724478864could of sworn it was part of one of these mockups
>>724478971The rave parts are fine, the fiend underworld segments feels as if Platinum saw DMC5's tree levels and said>We can do worse
>>724457781you can shuriken cancel it and go for a juggleng2 strings are all kind of shit though unless you can guarantee a delimb off of them
>>724478969But you can stand there and block everything the tank does with the exception of the laser+missile attack which you can just strafe, the boss isn't that aggressive. Horrible shit like Gigadeath and water dragon feel different to fight. I like that you can stunlock the armadillo with IS or Genshin with scythe to just skip them and get back to the actually fun part of the game. Maybe I'm playing it wrong and I should be parryslopping the bosses GOOKBAL style but it hardly feels necessary.
>>724478864No, theirs a difference. It's the same pose yes but it appeals to a different crowd. NG2 is meant to appeal to western chunobia, picrel is meant to appeal to a fucking dad.
Man, fuck your swords
>>724479417>you can stand there and block everything the tank does with the exception of the laser+missile attackSo it's the same because it also has blockable attacks? I see you're going the reductionist route, which I don't feel like bothering with.>the boss isn't that aggressiveSo you haven't even played on MN.
>>724477802>Maybe it's Stockholm syndrome but I cam to appreciate stuff like dragon skelly, giant skelly, dinosaur, etcit's absolutely stockholm syndrome. all of those are "do i even like this game" moments on a playthrough every boss in 4 is above average, which is a much better track record than say ng2 where every boss is horrible.there are boring ways to fight anything: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xWHVyyXHT-o actually if you're fighting gigadeath or the ng black tanks, the only option is boring. if you're choosing to block everything in 4 and then complaining that the game is all blocking, do something more efficient. use one of the million other options available that are much more fun like evading around the enemy's attacks with your ridiculous movement options or just smacking them out of everything.
>>724455432those MH threads were kino until the series was ruined with world so you're just an assurt faglet.
>THAT encounter in ch1 MNjesus christ they dont stop coming
Still no mods to skip all the cinematic bullshit...it's fine for the first playthrough or even the second one but on the third it's too much.Feel like it would be easy too you just need to show Yakumo as Ryu somehow
>>724476217but doesn't it have UE5 stutters? i kind of also want the semi-original vision at least as well
>>724480127>every boss is horribleYou no longer had a point soon as you typed that lol it has at least 2 decent bosses that I can remember for the time (shit like Worm/Red demons flying bitch excluded of course) NG4’s are overall better but it had a couple stinkers like the Shark being kind of lame and the annoying fucking winged chimera lion thing that flies around half the fucking fight.
>>724481076Isnt there an auto skip setting? Does it suck or something?
>>724480127The bosses in NG1 and 2 you can at least beat in like 30 seconds. The one's in 4 are slow and tedious as fuck and depend on baiting parrys
>>724478731Ninja Gaiden OG Xbox cover is so fucking sick and timeless, just Ryu ready to pounce in his early 2000’s pre rendered greatness.
>>724481413Nah I'm talking about the parts that make you slowly walk or radio chitchat, Ryu doesn't have any of it
After all these rail grinding, snowboarding, and gliding sections I never want to hear you faggots complain about Kunai climbing in Razor's Edge EVER again.
>>724481718I NEVER disliked the Kunai climbing however
>>724481718>Comparing QTEs to rail grinding
>>724481887Funny how the platinum bullshit isn't present in the platinum game
>>724478864it's kino because it's just ryu showing off his new weapons looking directly at the player "boot the game and lets kill billion fiends and spider clan members"
>>724481604Oh yeah that shit is so damn gay, don’t know why the brought that back when it has no place in Ninja Gaiden, same with the stupid ass grind/grapple/flying/wake boarding sections. Can I just kill shit without being interrupted every single level with some tacked on janky fucking traversal section? Fuck me
>>724481474you don't need to bait anything. just like ng2 where you can fish for LT+X counter or completely ignore it, you can fish for parry here or ignore it.
>>724481346>the annoying fucking winged chimera lion thing that flies around half the fucking fight.It doesn't. The only moves where you can't touch it are the divebomb in the 2nd phase and the tornado move, which it barely does if you stay on it's ass. Other than that it only hovers in the 2nd phase, low enough to the ground to where you can still easily hit it like normal.
>>724482070baiting for parry or platinum's perfect dodge bullshit is the same gameplay. Dont tell me you can just ignore either of these and wail on bosses like you could before
>>724480127>if you're choosing to block everything in 4 and then complaining that the game is all blockingsorry but you can't stop mechanical darwinism. players will seek the path of least resistance always. that's why tightening the design is important, not loosening it by introducing 5 different defensive options
>>724482070>Fishing for counters and parries in NG2>The game with unblockable 1 frame enemy grabs exactly so you can't do thatYou obviously haven't done Zedonius on MN once if you say this.
>>724482229the point is that it applies to every game. choosing not to have fun is the player's problem.
>>724482529>choosing not to have fun is the player's problem.it's the developer's problem if they make the game too easy and the only way to derive fun out of the game is to play in retarded risky ways.
>>724481474>The one's in 4 are slow and tedious as fuck and depend on baiting parrysDafaq? You can also kill the bosses in 4 in like 30 seconds, and parrying is almost always ill advised with how punishing it can be while blocking is so reliable.
>>724482529Dying and sitting through the longest restart sequence in modern action games is less fun than just blocking patiently. I'm not recording youtube video, I don't care to learn to parry and perfect block. Clearing the boss and going back to tossing mooks off cliffs is my objective.
>>724480404It's the hardest single encounter in the game. I just cheese it by charging UTs in the crates and waiting for them to jump up to me.
what is his problem?
>>724483034please claim ng4 is too easyit's much worse when the game is fundamentally degenerate and there's one usable option, rendering the entire rest of your moveset as basically a suicide button
>>724483291I had this in my mission select the whole game. Still have no idea who this is
>9/10 of the Herb/Health ingredient upgrades>Tons of chapters missing only one chest with like 26/27 of the totalIs there literally any way of seeing which mission I have to do that has the chest with the last herb unlock? I've already done all the missions and the NG+ exclusive ones.
>>724483458Just wait a few months for a guide.
>>724483139post gameplay
>>724483458check if you need black herb or whatevers the other one then look at a guide and see what you missed
Some random bug I found that I think somehow uses dodge offset.
>play master ninja>smooth sailing, just throwing everyone off of cliffs>get into another fight>room has walls and no bottomless pit>on my 5th retry nowits so over
>>724483391>please claim ng4 is too easypointless to do that since you'll pivot to a new position immediately like "oh you used items" or "do it without block upgrades". I played the game on MN. the game isnt good.
What the fuck am I supposed to be doing in this secret mission with all these lantern faggots? It's the on in the mountain levels after you get the rapier. They just spam projectiles from off screen non stop.
>>724483791stop cheesing the game, at least spam UTs
>>724483412It’s weird they give it to you so early. You have to go back to Chapter 2 in Chapter Select after you’ve beaten the game to even access this mission. And the reward is pretty much nothing. I wish there was more to do with NinjaCoin in this game because you get so fucking much of it.
>>724483940it's there so you can go "ohh this was that quest i picked up when i just started the game" when replaying it on MN/hard, i liked it
game needed 2 or 3 more gay ass giant kaiju bosses to be on par with the rest of the games
>>724484224As a completion autist it was driving me nuts and I couldn’t find any information on it
>>724483835if ng4 isn't good then there isn't a single good game in the series, maybe in action games period
>>724476217>no proper mission mode since they lost the source code
So is sliding Batman style combat.
>>724483835>This game is too easy>Play on a harder difficultyIs this somehow an unnatural turn for the conversation to take?
>>724483458Following collectible guides won't give you the final set. You get those from Ayane missions.
It's good that they patch stuff that prevents you from playing the game but can they fix checkpoints to be after accessing umi and to not have the mission time tick down when you pause to take a shit?
So to unlock the blacked dragon sword does it matter what difficulty you complete the trials on?
>>724485027No.
newfag here. NG4 is the first game I've played that I happily jumped into Master Ninja immediately after finishing it. every other game always has 3 or 4 of "that part" sections that turned me off from doing it.
To be fair NG4 is by far the easiest NG game. They essentially give you infinite items, the defence and attack buff items let you face tank bosses which make their second phases incredibly easy. If you die and retry the game just gives you full health. NG4 is a great game but as far as difficulty goes its the easiest out of any of the releases.
I don't understand the appeal. I played the intro chapter, combat felt clunky and unresponsive. I alt f4'd the game when I saw the yellow paint. I loved games like god hand and dmc. Should I try again
>>724472997>>Camera is actually decent stopped reading there. get dead
>>724485246no anon your iq is too high for yellow paintplay vagrant story
>>724485226using an item ever is iirc a 12% penalty to your final score, increasing per item, unlike previous games where you were encouraged to spam the fuck out of them
Magatsuhi has the best obliterations.
>>724485442true but playing for scores is optional, most people only care to get the ending. the game can shame me all it wants with low scores but in the end I won.
>>724483879pls help
>>724485442You don't need a high rank to clear MN.
>>724485226yeah the game doesn't waste your time, the older NGs aren't even hard they're genuinely just tedious
>>724485246>I loved games like god hand and dmcDid you replay them on higher difficulties many, many times?
>>724485450On average? It's a contender for sure, Kage Hiruko has some delightfully nasty ones though.
>>724485442You can still use 7 items if you kill everyone and have fast time and obviously not die
>>724485598then who cares? every game at that point is potion farming simulator except razor's edge
>>724485614NG3RE is by far the hardest in the series due to the lack of healing items. If you play like shit you can essentially softlock yourself forcing you to replay the chapter.
>>724485778such a shitty designed game that you always need to save points for the health upgrade so you have a max hp potion
>>724476634The story doesn't need to be great, but it should at least be unobtrusive. NG4 keeps shoving awful dialogue in the player's face. Soooooo...
>>724485690the score from big combos can outweigh it sometimes. you don't get to do big combos full of OTs and izunas on the boss-only stages, though
>>724485907Stop playing in english you fucking braindead retards
>>724480190>negative armor effects are dropped>:(>dedicating all decoration slots to canceling out negative armor effects:)
>>724485863you were encouraged to setup steel on bone combos along with spamming ninpo. the game was fair but difficult. its by far harder than anything itagaki created but the tryhards write it off because it's not an itagaki game. Itagaki difficulty is just spamming invuln frames and UT looping. NG2 MN is a meme difficulty.
>>724485642Yes for god hand. I beat the game on hard mode die KMS
>>724485095Same, I kinda wanna do MN on NG2B/NG3RE after doing it in NG4 but I just know I'm gonna hate my life on 80% of the chapters and not because it's hard because it's fucking annoying.
So funny how people say NG4 is easy because you can constantly spawn at the same location but the only chapters(5-6) that don't have it are hated.Do you really want the whole game to be like that?
PSA: The quickest and safest way to kill the lantern enemies is just to XYXXX. When you both land their self destruction is intentionally delayed. After I learned this it made their encounters so much easier for me.
>>724485095Yeah when I revisit these games I usually just play the trial missions. I only really loved the campaign for NG1 and even that has a few points that feel like a slog, but NG4 I just want to go through the levels again and again.
i wanted to craft the foil badge for SSS rank on my steam profile but these foil cards cost 20-30 euros what the fuck
I just finished the game but I think I'm going to sleep on all the trials and MN until the dlcs are out. Game was a solid 7/10 for me. Most of my complaints are due to just how low effort some of the aspects of the game felt mostly regarding Yakumo and Ryu. I do not like that Ryu's gleam is just a copy of Yakumo's blood attacks. I also think its really stupid that Yakumo's black dragon sword is just Ryu and Yakumo knows all of his attacks. In the end it just felt like NG4 was another game entirely and they decided to change it over to a ninja gaiden title after they were approached with microsoft money.Still a good game but wasn't the holy grail of NG titles many of us were hoping for.
Kneel to THE RAVEN.
>>724485450I love Michiru and I love Magatushi, both start with M. Coincidence? Probably.
How does karma scoring work? What's considered valuable?
>>724483879The one on chapter 5? If you're trying to do it without healing, all I gotta say is don't over commit unless you know you can get a full string of and don't jump recklessly so dash a lot, spam UTs if you want to be a little cheap.
>>724487310>>724485690The most optimal way is popping berserk then UTing
>>724487548I don't know what chapter I'm on. The one with 5 lanterns at the start and when you kill three it spawns in those demons who wear the white capes and masks on all fours.
>>724486446>The quickest and safest way to kill the lantern enemies is justYou just just R1 Y AOE the lanterns and they die to a Flying Swallow after.
>>724487715Yeah that's the one I was talking about, doing the finisher that eats the entire meter when you're in Berserk mode is also good for this one.
>>724488078I'm having a rough time. How can I spam UT's if most of the enemies in here can't be izuna dropped or grappled? Just fall naturally after a launcher attack?
>>724450886This is the first Ninja Gaiden I’ve played, and Ryu is such a boring character. They try so hard to make him look cool that it’s actually cringe. Is he like this in the other games too?
>>724486848>are you frustrated
>>724485678>Rip his enemies openWhat's wrong with Yakumo?
>>724488306square + xswallow jump or something
>>724488342yes basicallyit feels different when you're playing as him, though1, 2 and 4 fellate him like crazy
>>724488460Does doing the command jump not insta eat souls like regular jump does?
>>724488561nopejust block and do it and you can spam UT forever
>>7244883423 made Ryu a lot more vulnerable physically and emotionally. It was not received very well by series fans.
>>724488306When you kill and enemy hold block so you don't absorb the essence orb, then do a wind run followed by an on-landing UT. You don't need to spam it, but if you get the chance it's good to do it.
>>724488635That's because it was written like shit, and Ryu was horribly out of character.>THIS RANDOM LITTLE SHIT SAID I WAS SCAWY AND NOW I'M SAD :( There's nothing wrong with the idea of Ryu being emotional and more open because the DS game already told that story believably. NG3 was literally chasing the Cawadooty Western Sad Protagonist trend and it showed how horribly it fit the series.
>>724488612>>724488701Ok it's working better but this is still hot AIDS. I can't fucking do anything because of these retarded lanterns spamming 20 shots every second.
>melee zombie enemy is male>ranged zombie enemy is femaleYikes, I thought we moved on from sexist crap like this. I hope Bluesky will tear Platinum a new one for this.
>>724488393Teen angst combined with super ninja strength
>>724489513Good luck, I struggled with this one too. I hope you have some of the good Bloodraven skills unlocked at least lol.
I like Yakumo's default suit.
Wait, using items hurt your score more than literally dying?
>>724481718Razor's Edge QTEs don't take forever, nor do they occupy half a stage. I did enjoy the sewer surfing a bit, but only because it reminded me of TMNT, but beside that nostalgic moment, this game is way worse with it nonsense than 3RE ever was. NG4 also isn't nearly as impressive when delivering cinematic moments. Razor's CHADs just can't stop winning. Still the best OST, still the best combat, still the best story, still the best bosses, still the best Ryu and dragon sword moveset.Razor's Edge postRazor's Edge threadRazor's Edge boardRazor's Edge internetRazor's Edge worldRazor's Edge universe
>>724489990Me too.
>>724488342He is a SUPER NINJA. Do not disrespect Busa-san.
>>724450886>Play first chapter>Immediately uninstall afterwardsI don't know what this is, but it doesn't feel or play like NG at all.
>>724483391It really is, I'm clearing chapters on MN with Ryu without dying lmao. Oh and that's with enemy radar and strong attack indicator turned off btw. With Ryu MN is not even as hard as NGII mentor, or MN on RE. With Yakumo NG+ it's not much harder, and with new game yakumo it's STILL easier than NGII MN amd RE UN.Imagine if you turned on those pathetic ninja dog handholding indicators and still think this is remotely the hardest game in the series xdddd
>>724489513see >>724487916
>>724485614>ng4 doesn't waste your timeHave fun wuth your autoscroller surfing, gliding and railing everytime you play the game nigger
>>724485965Why would having some dogshit characters constantly babbling in Japanese make things any better you stupid cunt?
>>724490539I don't have that skill unlocked.
>>724460905>get a million ports/remasters like every other NGWhat is there for it to be ported to?>>724461627>modern games don't do that stuff anymore, even if it was successful the game wouldn't be touched ever again ( LOOK AT DMC5 )That's Capcom. They tend to not keep ongoing maintenance unless it's Street Fighter or they want to promote something (e.g. DMC5 getting a Special Edition for new consoles or Onimusha remaster getting an extra mode for the Onimusha 2 remaster).TN is a lot more involved than that.
>>724481718Preach brother, Yaiba: Ninja Gaiden Z was a good game too.
>>724490650Those sections are fun tho, so I will have fun with them.
Did they forget to model the rollerskates on Yakumo's feet?
>>724491363Ryu's spinning reminds me of Witcher 3 here.
>>724491363We tried this last thread. Even with direct video evidence, the NG4 fags will still pretend the magnetism was like that in the prior games when it's obviously not. They'll also go silent when you bring up the fact that OTs have been entirely gutted and just snap you directly into the animation with proper no startup hit/hurt box detection now.
>>724490719Because it's literally a different dialogue script. Yakumo doesn't say fuck off for example, he's much more stoic than the english version
>>724491363Elite enemies will still backstep you if you try to mash into them
>>724489796I finally got it. Jesus christ that was awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSxxIqKNN0
>>724491528The magnetism is greater in 4 yes, but it is present in 2 as well. What is the problem? Unless you address the greater arena size, compare the range of enemies versus the player to see if they also gain a similar advantage and so on, then there's not much to discuss because the game is still fun and challenging, positioning still matters, there is still a need to dodge, make distance do crowd control and so on. People compared it to bamham, and so I watched a video and saw batman literally travel like 50 feet in one punch. Laughable that it is being compared to this. The crux of your arguments seems to just be "Yes you move when you attack in 2, but you move FURTHER in 4 which is BAD" without going any further. Most of the time these arguments are hyperbolic and unspecific. I find it hard to take seriously, so most of the time I don't reply or shitpost. OT animations not changing depending on the approach angle is lame though I agree
>>724492150
Just started a run of NG black after beating 4 and having a blast. Combat philosophy is too different for me to enjoy 4, even if I wanted to play a curazy hack n slash every single other platinum game is just better. They also didn't even bother with the worldbuilding and levels, walking through the streets of tairon is very comfy while neo tokyo is plain dumb
>>724492374>curazy hack n slash every single other platinum game is just betteryou're really unique
>>724450886Am I pleb for saying this is my favourite NG game?
>>724492589You are a transzoolenial bicheet spammer
>>724492589No you're not, NGB is still my personal favorite but 4 is fantastic. Don't listen to NG2 schizos.
>>724492675Have sex
>>724492589Nope it's mine too and I have great taste.
>>724492675>transzoolenial bicheet spammerThis is not english
>>724492589>Am I pleb for saying this is my favourite NG game?Not really, NG is kind of like DMC where every installment feels so vastly different that prefering one over the other is mostly just personal taste
>>724492589Who cares? Like what you like, every fanbase these days is just filled with autists and troons that it doesn't matter anymore.
The Super Ninja.
The Master Super Ninja.
The Sexo Ninja.
>>724493105That's not Momiji.
>>724478387>ngb>not ng with dlc0/10
>>724489412idk i feel that they did a good job with Ryu. Don't forget that he was cursed and having to live with the torment of those that he killed, mentally he wasn't as unshakeable as he normally is. Having his mind stripped down and forced to acknowledge what he's done was an interesting take on him. The moment where he takes his helmet off and gets serious is one of the best moments in the series. You have to remember that Ryu isn't some just emotionless badass, he will probably never get over Kureha's death and you can see a bit of that in NG4 when he noticed what Seori was up to. Ryu also chose not to kill Kasumi in DOA even though he could have easily done it.
>>724493287
>>724493287CyberninjachadI kneel...
>>724492589As long as NG3:RE is in the last sot, you are good in my book.
>>724492589Why? Because of the muh magnetism or muh NG2 anons?They shouldn't matter to you. Don't worry and like what you like.
>>724492975The Dragon Falcon, also known as the Super Ninja.>>724493057The Raven, he who purified the Dark Dragon.Can't wait for the DLC, I love them both.
>>724493287>NG with dlcBaby mode intercept subhuman, fuck off.
>>724494331Intercept is kino.
>>724494113NG3 RE is good. purists only hate it because they removed all the itagaki cheese strats and made an even harder game than he ever could.
>>724494410>Intercept is kinoMight aswell play souls-likes if you consider babymode gameplay "kino". Itagaki will always be the greatest director for recognizing intercept was a bad idea and not bringing it back for NGB.
>>724494520>interactive movie as its foundation is "good"
>>724494265I didn't really feel much for this promo image at first but after finishing the game, these two ninja being back to back goes so hard. You just know they're comically outnumbers, and yet their enemies are hopelessly outmatched.
>>724494520>character assassinating ryu is "good">spamming Steel on Bone is "hard"
>>724493308>having to live with the torment of those that he killedthat's not how it was framed, the game pretends that he's some bloodthirsty killer who murders surrendering soldiers.The whole fucking "I feel bad for killing :'(" angle is retarded for a guy that's a veteran at stoically beheading ninjas. You either save that shit for a rookie or go full on PTSD.
Ryu HayabusaYakumo Last Name Redacted
>>724494520>they removed all the itagaki cheese stratswhat? the game has more cheese than the previous titles lol.
>>724494680It is insane how much Yakumo is grown on me, love him. Ryu will always be my favourite though.
>>724494908they just use the clan name so Yakumo Karasu
>>724494634You do less gliding in the entirety of Razor's Edge than you do in one...maybe two chapters of 4.
>>724495012>kunai wall climbing>so cinematic>I love my interactive movie slopNinja please.
chapter 2 6 and 11 are the only ones with a fuckton of railing/wind bullshitbasically the ones with the achievement
>>724494950These fiends had tits???
>>724495125One/two chapters in NG4 have more uninteractable sections than the entirety of NG3. NG4 literally forces you to go through walk and talk sections and tutorials EVERY time even in Chapter Challenge. Yup, that's right, every time you redo Chapter 1 as Yakumo, EVEN IN CHAPTER CHALLENGE, you have to do the shop tutorial and do the section where it teaches and forces you how to use items.
>>724493057Yakumo isn't a super ninja thoughbeit. The only super ninja are Ryu and Genshin.
>>724495125the kunai climb isn't high art but you can sidestep, throw shuriken and if you get near an enemy you can OT him for a score bonus. most people whining thought it was a literal QTE even though you have full control and you're supposed to disable the prompts
It's ok 3refags you can stop pretending you like the game now that we have ng4
>>724450886is this game actually good? seriously now. no nostalgia glasses. don't fuckin lie to me
>>724491674>it's literally a different dialogue script.It's literally not.>but the options screen says!Actually play the game with both and you'll see and hear that the vast majority of the script is identical between languages. The fuck off example is one of the only lines that they actually changed. It's most noticeable with Umi's dialogue, where they still use the exagerated "thaaaank you" sub despite her line in JP being shorter and less emphasized.
>>724495894it's bad overall but the combat is mindless fun
>>724495894It's good, easily one of the best games platinum has made. Not amazing like NGB but it's the second best in the NG series.
>>724495894It's alright, it has its grievances but nontheless I think it's a great action game but overall just fine. Action games like these don't come often and I'm enjoying it more than DMC5 honestly.
>>724495894>no nostalgia glassesIt plays differently from the others. Nostalgia? All these damn games are pretty different from each other.
>>724495894Yes it's good, assuming you're a person who likes this type of game and can overlook some flaws. If you get hung up on shit like a weak story or some boring levels this aint for you, but the combat is some of the best video gaming of the last decade, assuming you're willing to actually engage with it
>>724496013You're a mongoloid if you think english and japanese Yakumo are the same
>>724496062I can appreciate that honestly, but how is it bad overall?
>>724495894The people who actually bought the game seem to think so.
>>724496315it's horrible, please don't touch it
>>724495894literally 100x better than NG3:RE
Why doesn't ryu have his bow, they somehow give him less weapons than in vanilla 3.
Going through the game and died about 40 times to the robot tank boss in DDO HQ. This game on Normal is harder than NG2B on Mentor.
>>724496013what do you gain from being a lying retard? why choose to spend your time being wrong?
>>724491363>WOW LOOK AT THIS TRAINING MODE ENEMY WITH ITS AI TURNED ON ISN'T THIS GAME MUCH WORSE WOW>WOW ISN'T THIS COMPARISON WITH ABSOLUTELY NO CONTEXT SUCH A GOOD ARGUMENT YOU SHOULD PLAY MY GAME INSTEAD WOWKILLALLNG2FAGS
>>724496337All tourists. NG died with 2, anybody that spend money on this betrayed Itagaki.
>>724496415The bow was always shit and never fit well with the NG gameplay and I'm gonna die on that hill
>>724496442Using Itagaki's death to further whatever petty agenda you have is beyond shameless. You're fucking subhuman.
NG3RE > NGB > NG4 > NG2
>>724496435What context is needed behind your attack making you glide across 3/4th of the arena on every attack?
>>724496315it's in the top 5 action games ever made
>>724496198They are other than that one line you keep hanging on, but you're dodging the point.>>724496431>what do you gain from being a lying retardI'd ask you the same. Post at least two other examples of the scripts being different.
Good to know dogs are still absolute Hitlers in this game.
>perfect block>perfect dodge>parrywhich of these am I supposed to be using most?
Face it, the price of the game is the biggest filter. I personally don't price this at $60, maybe $40 sure.
Ninja GAYdonbros...
>>724496775parry is best but hardest to useperfect block is in the middleperfect dodge is the least useful but you can rely on it if you need
>>724496537not an argument, NG4 is a bad CAG on a fundamental level and there's nothing wrong with agenda's when it's correct
>Ghost fish.................................
>>724496638What he is listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxkezvGwI20
>>724496578>What context is needed behind your attack making you glide across 3/4th of the arena on every attack?I don't know, maybe the game having way, way larger arenas? Way larger enemies? Way larger attacks in general?You know the completely separate game that doesn't play the same could, hmm, I don't know have some differences from your the game you use as a girlfriend surrogate? Since it has different needs being A DIFFERENT GAME?No? No, right? NG2 is the platonic idea of everything an action game should be right? Even though it's fucking unfinished and filled with garbage.Yeah, I know. The game that couldn't run properly on its intended hardware is perfect, you don't have to tell me.
>>724496315everything that isn't the combat is straight up bad, you will not see anyone defending the levels, onrails platforming or the plot. But that's whatever only the combat matters, thing is it has no depth at all, positioning doesn't exist since you magnetize to enemies, every weapon has the same 4 combos and behave the same, bosses are all the same simon says slog, poor enemy variety and tons of little things. You can master the combat very quickly, it's not a game about surviving an encounter with aggressive enemies, instead it's about doing ebin combos on punchbags with bloated hp, which is fine if that's your thing
>>724496638>dog humping yakumo to death>throw him off>second dog immediately jumps onyep, it's ninja gaiden
>>724496567
>>724497046>it's about doing ebin combos on punchbags with bloated hpyou have not played the game. enemies die in 3 seconds flat, and so does the player.
Despite being an Xbox Published game, the physical version of NG4 for PS5 has the full game data on disc and can be played without any additional downloads.https://www.doesitplay.org/game/Ninja%20Gaiden%204/ps5/PS5%20Pro?region=PEGI&version=StandardJust thought this was cool given how other Xbox games are just download codes.
>>724495894nope
>Blunt weapons don't explode gibs into chunks>OTs don't have any startup attack and just warp you into position >Fiends don't have Green Blood for some reason >Can't interact/OT with decapitated enemies anymore>No enemy type that interacts with delimbed parts This is the worst gore since Sigma 2. At least Sigma 2 remembered the correct blood color.Here is the real TRUTH NUKE Gore was nerfed and you're no longer able to interact with decapitated enemies was only done so that the Gore/Dismemberment DEI "accessibility" toggles ON/OFF would work. (Itagaki would never by the way)
>>724496979I don't even speak Japanese but I still know the lyrics by heart.
Look how fast we went from "the suck to target doesn't exist" and "there will be smaller combat arenas don't worry doomposter" before launch all the way to "the suck to target is needed because all of that combat arenas are larger now".
>>724497441Or maybe you're arguing with different people.
>>724496578>your attack making you glide across 3/4th of the arenaExcept it doesn't, and this disingenuous hyperbolic argumentation is why no one takes you ng2 fags seriously. Be serious.
>>724497046>you will not see anyone defending the levels, onrails platforming or the plot.You can literally see that in this very thread>it's not a game about surviving an encounter with aggressive enemies, instead it's about doing ebin combos on punchbags with bloated hp, which is fine if that's your thingYou haven't played this game
le no aggressive enemies
I hope Rachel and Momiji are enjoying their time off
>>724493287BLACKEDchuds... hurricanepackGODS are laughing at us again...
>>724497576That guy on the right at the end wasn't doing shit though, the rifle dude didn't even try shooting you either.
>>724496996He'll never reply to actual arguments, he will only do his cringe 4chan subtweeting because he knows he can't defend any of his points.
maybe I'll play black today. or maybe dino crisis 3. idk.
>>724497576there is a single <!> attack in that webm and a grab since you walked into a delimbed guy, every other enemy is standing still what's exactly the point of this vid
>>724497763There are plenty of NG2 webms where enemies just walk around staring you down, stop this clownery
>>724497850Why the FUCK would you play DC3?
>>724496843>Ninja GODen impregnates Anon's mom>she gives birth to a prodigious YakumobroLMAO! NINJA GODEN BRO WINS AGAIN!
>>724497917because I've never played either but DC3 is fucking dinosaurs in space dude. you literally can't get cooler than that. grow up
>>724496996Not optimal
>>724497664WHAT THE FUCK!? HURRICANEPACKGODS ARE PARRY CHADS!?https://youtu.be/F4jRGTuBmvg?si=LE0qXETHEBt50hbw
>>724497767at least he isn't spamming CP yet
>>724497882>NG2 out of nowhereI'm not even a part of your tribal war. I'm just pointing out that your webm isn't a good example of aggression.
>>724497576>grab attack takes 75% of your healthwhy do they keep doing this nu-TN horseshit
Itagaki-sama is watching from Heaven, being comforted by Harambe, tears rolling from beneath his sunglasses from seeing what the franchise he created has become.
>>724496996Also the game is fast as shit, enemies can be genuinely hard to keep track of in chaotic situations.
>>724498215Whoa you can parry that? Damn I didn't even try parrying it.
>Everyone complain about Platforming sections in NGBNG4 has the most amount of walking sections and on rails, unskippable platforming sections in the entire franchise>Everyone complains about NG2 UT chaining NG4 has the most powerful UT chaining in the series and the scoring system literally incentivizes it because of the Blood/Gleam chain bonuses>Everyone complains for years about Sigma 2 Master Ninja just being one shots and fights with bloated HP enemies NG4 MN is balanced around NG+ and has Sigma 2 one shots everywhere >Everyone complains about NG3 MN/UN arenas just being countless infinite enemy wave spam one after the otherNG4 huge ass combat arenas are just enemy wave spam after enemy wave spam I'm seeing a pattern here
>>724498169Hot off the press! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qK84j4ZsXo
>>724498169imagine paying 60 euros for a game that runs at 10 fps i'd forever hate itagaki
>>724498418it's ok man you can calm down now
>>724498418A lot of people like the platforming of Black, a lot of people like ult chaining in 2, and a lot of people like the large enemy waves of 3. Also there is no HP bloat in 4 if you play efficiently, enemies die fast and you do too, which is my personal favorite way to do difficulty.
Itagakibro, how do you rate NG4? I'm talking about the guy who posts the funny Itagaki webms btw.
>>724498215I'd say that's more due to the frankly bad visual design.The color palette primarily consisting of white and dark blue for BOTH enemies and the environment combined with the horrible specular makes it hard to identify shit.
Ninja Gaiden 2 is so hard to get good at. It would be better were there a practice mode. I don't feel like I can even begin to get good at it without being able to immerse myself in an onslaught without dying in order to feel it out. I don't feel like I'm given enough time to even learn it. It just feels like rape forever and it never clicks for me.
>>724498867He hasn't shown up since Itagaki died
>>724472463I know weenop is gonna be on all fours making barking noises for the entire 1.5 minutes Ayane is on screen
>>724498943it's an easy game once you realize all you need to do is GT ninjas into walls, xxy, izuna drop, on land UT
>>724472463I feel like they should wait until the DLC is out since that'll add more story content.
>>724498942No it's because the enemies can flashstep behind you
>>724498169lmao the gpu failing
>>724498418Lol infinite enemy waves, that takes me back to NG1 ambushes where you have to kill 100 fiends
>>724496567Same order as me, but I would consider all NG games other than sigma 2 and vanilla 3 to be very good.
Just beat the shark yesterday and I'm enjoying it though I'll give my more detailed final thoughts once I'm done. The lock-on is really only useful for the boss fights when you're focusing on a single fast moving target that jumps around all over the place. During normal battles against mobs of enemies I don't use it nor do I think it's useful in those situations.
>>724498963Poor guy.
>>724497609Since the Ninja Gaiden girls were erased from their own series, I will go with head canon for what they are doing during NG4.Rachel retired from fiend hunting after too much NWFing from Ryu. She works at Han's bar as a bartender and doubles as a bouncer.For Momiji I just consider pic related canon, she's chilling Tokyo somewhere having a good time
>>724498707I don't like that the bosses die way too fast because you do a shitton of damage. I haven't played in the higher difficulties yet, but in normal one UT just shreds through the bosses hp. It's a shame too because the designs are really fun and looks cool.
>>724498963Damn, dude probably took it hard rip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3V00Mj0N68*mogs muramasa*
>>724499057There are moments where you can't do those things, or are much less conducive. They are obviously some of your most useful assets but you don't learn the game purely through them and they won't temper your overall skill or your entire skillset necesarilly. I'm at a place on mentor difficulty (in vanilla 2) for example, where there aren't wall surfaces to GT enemies into. It's an area that's a thin path with explosive archers ahead of you and talon suicide ninjas coming after you. It's easy to deal with in theory but I'm bad at the game, I feel overwhelmed the moment I see that, even if it's not terribly hard to get past, just because it's hard to compute and then hold in my head the number of factors at play there. The game basically skill checks you with the way the enemy types and situations fluctuate throughout the game. Far easier on paper than when you play it.
Which DoA girl smell the best? Asking for myself since I don't have friends.
>>724499703Yeah this is a bit of a nitpick for me too, you get the dynamic music with the vocals kicking in for an epic moment, and the boss is dead 10 or 12 seconds later. Running through Master Ninja now and it's a bit better, UT hits bosses like a noodle now, but they'll still explode pretty quickly if you're playing well.
>>724499946In other words I'm gay and I suck.
>>724499946>>724500162The game is also just extremely fast. It's basically a fighting game with more than one opponent, it's easy to get molested with how fast this game is.
>>724497763that happens even more often in ng2
Maybe Momiji could cameo in Two Masters?In her white ninja garb too, I found the Sigma one too slutty.
>>724499453>>724499737Good. Fuck that itagaki dicksucker spammin' retard. Just another schizo moron that got crossed off the list
>>724464867*sighs* agreed, take my upvote. team ninja must be better men.
>>724499703They are way tankier on Master Ninja. I don't know about Ryu but Yakumo UTs barely do more damage than a Bloodraven combo. They're only really good for getting a breather or invulning through a move that's tough to parry.
For now, I'm filtered by NG2. I don't have it in me.
>>724501135I feel like it has to be an IQ thing because by now I should have what it takes, after so many hours of playing, but I must conclude I'm just a mind blank low IQ faggot.
>>724501135What filtered you? If it's anything after chapter 8 I understand.
>>724486546It's because there's not really much to go through. The levels are pretty barebones and replaying the game you can turn the trash dialogue off.
>>724501349I'm at chapter 11. Been at it on and off for days. Progressing slowly. The starcase in the underground pyramid chapter really kicked it up a notch but it was easy once you got the hang of it (and extremely fun), chapter 11 is where it gets real though. I'm sure I'll keep at it, and maybe I'll find out a way to cheese it, but it's going to border on insanity.
>>724486848Goddamn the weapon skin is awful.
>>724488342>bait post about Devil May Gaiden 4ISHYGDDT
>>724501737These last few chapters after 11 are short so you can do it, Tonfa and Scythe or amazing so use those. Also what difficulty are you playing?
>>724488342What Ninja Gaiden needs isnt a better story but better characters, DMC has shit story too but it's has characters who interact with each other, Ryu and Yakumo are boring cause they don't feel like real people, Ninjas protect humanity from evil but why? What compels Ryu to save humanity? Would Ryu even be sad if Ayane died? I don't mean storytelling like NG3 but rather like DMC3 where the characters in the game actually interact with eachother
>>724502005Is this the new pasta?
>>724498215The enemies have to be fast to get away from the massive amount of suction and weird auto-lock NG4 has.
Your positioning, Ninja Gaiden fags?
>>724502618I prefer the downward dog.
>>724496537TBF there are a bunch of Steam reviews with maybe 1 to 3 hours that thank Itagaki for this game even though he has had nothing to do with NG for years.
>>724502173That's literally what we were talking about
>>724502173NG always had autolock and it's not suction it's just yakumo being retarded fast.
>>724500648That outfit was always the best.
>>724502692it's corny but then you remember people are also using itagakis death to shit on ng4 so it balances out
>>724501737If you're using basics like GT, wind run, onland ut charging, reblocking and essence stacking, then it's just a matter of cheesing through the bullshit with lunar or what have you.
>>724502684>t. ravis
>>724497505>You can literally see that in this very threadBaffling, honestly.
>>724465574rachel, though for obvious reasons
>>724496062>>724497046Seething
>>724494786No you misunderstood, the curse wasnt tormenting him on an emotional level, it was tormenting him literally, as in everyone he killed, he would feel that pain as well, so the entire time through out 3, Ryu is enduring the pain of literally hundred of peoples death as he's fighting through it. The soldiers begging and pleading, that was just extra effect.
>bring me Yakumo
I wish I could fight in the credits level forever
>>724504525I wish Ayane would give me a thigh job, we can't all get what we want.
>>724483768How to do this?
My ninja soul burns.
The Asura statue and the giant blue blob skeleton are the worst bosses in the game.
>>724494786>I feel bad for killing :'("This literally doesn't happen. Ryu tanks the curse and just does what he always does.
>>724504842The Asura statue I thought was cool.Jelly monster was the worst boss in the game. I didn't like the shark much either from a gameplay perspective, but it had cool presentation.
I liked the jelly boss...
>>724504864BEAST
>>724505124I didn't mind him, he's just a silly lil guy. Fuck that tank tho
Would you guys say it’s worth full price or wait for a little dip?
>>724483768h-he's fast!
>>724504941Shark had the best boss execution by far. Pretty mid fight though, even with a skrillex concert in the background.
>>724505124I legit feel retarded fighting this boss, his jump attacks always catch off guard. I struggled less with some NG2 bosses.
>>724505201Nah, wait for a sale, no game is worth 70 bucks.
Chapter 12 is pure kino. More chapter 12 in dlc please.
>Chapter 18>Chapter 19>CreditsKino... KINOOOO
>>724505201I love this game to tears and have no regrets paying for the deluxe edition but if you're more of a casual to the genre I probably have to say wait for a sale. It's a shame because the game really does deserve more love, it's all Microsoft's fault.
>>724505201For me I would obviously say yes since I really enjoyed the game and it's my GOTY.Most people I think would probably not say it's worth full price.As far as other action games go, Ninja Gaiden 4 actually has quite a lot of content in comparison. It's probably one of the most content rich action games of this style from its initial vanilla launch state alone.
>>724505124You haven't fought it on master ninja where the spit puddles from it's adds constantly put you into one shot territory. If you have yet still like it then you're insane.>>724505201Nothing is worth 70$.
>>724505282I think I mostly dodged those but figuring out the timing to do the bloodraven slash on them was cool.
>>724497046You're obviously lying but I'll respond seriously anyway to challenge my own thoughts about the game.>the levelsThey're great. Lots of varied encounters, very cool places to fight in, with excellent pacing, mostly linear with still side paths to explore a bit. >onrails platformingIt would have been better if that was actual platforming but it's not even that, they're mostly interactive cutscenes. By far the worst element of the game, but I'd still take that over very annoying backtracking everywhere or sloooowly walking through 199 doors and finding keys or whatever the fuck boring shit that has even less to do with being a super ninja.The flying is actually cool anyway, and none of it takes that long to get through. It's almost a non issue. Almost, because some of the grinding in the first levels do steal a good minute of your time.>the plotmade me care about a new clan which is good enough. and thanks fuck it was NOT about killing Ryu (again!)>thing is it has no depth at allNow that's where it's obvious you're just trolling, they've nailed the combat completely.>magnetizeYou don't. You're just VERY fast for some moves but not even all of them. Good positioning is important against many ennemies if you don't wanna get fucked against a wall, sink in poison/electricity/killzone, or aim your sweeping BB ultimates.> every weapon has the same 4 combosThey're all completly different in what they do and how their sub mechanic handle though. Yes the 360 and <> input are all the same, and?>simon says slogYou can utterly disable bosses if you know what you're doing. How can the bosses be simon-says Sekiro bs when you're just as much in control of the fight as they are and there's many ways to disable, dodge or counter their attack or attack them the whole time? tard. The bosses are excellent.>ebin combos You didn't play the game at all didn't you. What ebin combo? what bloated HP you have 3 entire mechanics to specifically insta kill anything.
>>724505201It's worth it to me but I would recommend waiting
>>724505526On MN it's kind of like a cheesy NG2 trial.You avoid the boss for the most part until it does it's flip over move that makes it stationary for a long long time. During that time you try to kill as many of the blue zombies as possible.Then you use that essence on the boss if possible or take out more blue zombies.
>>724504842The statue is the best boss in the game and has the best OST in the whole series.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc_68MilOLY
>>724505359>>724505439>>724505483>>724505526All right, appreciate it. Hoping it gets a little discount around black friday or something.
>>724505589I also think the levels are good outside of a couple because of the checkpoint system not being good.
>>724505589Correct on all points. Well done.
>>724505753I agree on the OST, it's great but that nigga on MN is just on RAPE MODE, I can't handle it without items.
>played two levels of Sigma 1 last year>wanted to go back to finish the game, but never truly got around>now itching to just jump to "new thing"
>>724506007Coin flip.
>>724505925Understandable, I'm not on my MN playthrough yet, maybe my thoughts will change.
>>724506007From a story point of view I think you would still be able to enjoy the sheer aura of Ryu in 4. You don't really need to play the previous games to understand the story.There are some parallels you wont get and there's a pretty cool little level with an awesome soundtrack callback to previous games, but that's pretty much it.
>>724505589the levels suck
>>724505589I've got no idea what people are bitching about with the levels, they're great, tons to explore, even more on a replay. I blame the fuckass IGN video I bet people are parroting it.
>>724479213The YY->Y is good, a bit risky but kills half the map (also has pretty good delimb properties but its a bit risky to use it just for that).I think its not just delimb properties, because even if xY delimbed there's not much when he's up in the air and you're on the ground.Juggling seems like a big fat WHY in ninja gaiden 2. Just killing dudes slower.
>>724506190They are much better than 2 and 3's levels in terms of layout. NGB is still da KING in terms of levels though.
>>724506320It's not much competition. 2 drops the ball hard with levels after first 2 chapters.
>>7245063202 has better levels
>>724506420>>724506320NG2's airship was the best level in the series. Except MAYBE the first level of NG1.
>>724506420Chapter 11 however is phenomenal action kino. Unfortunately the last 3 chapters are pretty bad as well.
>>724505684>Then you use that essence on the boss if possible or take out more blue zombies.I'm 99% sure the blue man group don't drop essence in that fight.
>>724506160It is not really about the story, just think it is nice to experience franchises in the original order, though Sigma is not even the original. If anything, more for gameplay. Though on the other hand, it doesn't matter. Whatever gets me into playing the game. I have played newest entries into franchises before and have went back to play the older games after, so I guess it is a valid enough path. The only possible issue is that it is gonna take me longer to realize why the newest entry is actually lacking. Also thinking about other unfinished games... I am just a choice paralysis schizo.
>>724506497On the other hand Heart of Darkness is by far the worst level in the series where you fight not only some of the most boring enemies in the entire game, but also two of the worst bosses in the series.
>>724506548>just think it is nice to experience franchises in the original orderI understand completely, I'm the same way. I just have to play in release order.
>>72450650411 is just 2 backwards with a little extra. The reeds were cool.>>724506497Ch1 of ng1 is insanely good.
>>724506587I was going to play devil's advocate by bringing up the zombie levels in NG1 but my heart's just not in it.Heart of darkness fucking sucked.
Ayane sex Ayane sex Ayane sex Ayane sex
what chapter in ng2 is the one where you're in an airplane? that's the only great one besides the obvious ones
>>724506742The Russia level is also decent.The beginning of that levels is pure garbage, but they kind of manage to redeem it after that section with lots of fun ninja encounters.
>>7245067427
>>724506675Definitely in terms of how iconic it was, and the design of the level was perfect. Just the right blend of open and enclosed fights, corridors, just enough platforming, a few cheeky blind corners where you get ambushed but not enough to feel obnoxious. Just one area with a bat ambush to keep you on your toes. Nice exploration with a few routes through it but easy to navigate. The most fun enemies in just the right numbers.In terms of design, it feels like they built the whole game for that one level and everything else was an after thought.
>>724506816yeah the cathedral is nice but it's still complete dogshit for that beginning
The laser encounters in Chapter 12 are so fucking cool. I'm really digging the level design in this game, very good and distinct arenas, and the little sidepaths leading to missions and stuff are good too.
>>724506742Bros I felt so bad when I wrecked the reactor core and the guy on the PA was coordinating the firefighters.
Riding the ninja surfboard around the underworld lakes was super fun. Felt like a mini windwaker or something. I want a ninja surfboard now.
Surely NG4 chapter 19 deserves a little love? The two best bosses back to back, some seriously striking visuals in the lead up to the finale, and a few solid well paced encounters in between it all.
>>724506736I played fatal frame 5 just because it has ayane and she was a big argument for me to play NG4.
>>724507023Chapter 10 or 11, whichever one ended in that cestus fight where the whole chapter consisted of you surfing across cyber sewers and the underworld was a very fun time
>>724507023Surfing is so much better than the rail sections.
I've always wondered. Chapter 1 is you training with murai's clan.Why does he and ryu just seem to not talk about the fact that you just slaughtered an entire village worth of ninjas?
>>724507376Paid actors
>>724507376because the story is amazing
>>724507376I mean the way I saw was that it's like how certain special ops groups handle "training"IE: it's considered training but you can also like, actually fucking die if you're a hack. All those dead ninjas are collratal
>>724507376The path of the Ninja is life or death. You either succeed or sneed.
>>724507376the weak should fear the strong
>>724507376Ninja Gaiden story is basically about who has the most dragonest sword and who can shove it between demons' eyes the best.With the occasional "what the...?!" moment thrown in.
>>724507726Does zombie Ryu randomly levitating a rock count as "what the...?".
The Gantz flashbacks...
>>724507796Mmm yes, ninja.
>>724492221>I watched a video and saw batman literally travel like 50 feet in one punch. Laughable that it is being compared to this. >The crux of your arguments seems to just be "Yes you move when you attack in 2, but you move FURTHER in 4 which is BAD"bait?
>>724507960The sound design during this transition was peak. Also nigger hide those ui button prompts
>>724507796Considering NES Ninja Gaidens had a "what the" moment with Ryu getting shot, zombie Ryu ain't too far off.
>>724507960I fucking love this boss fight, as well as the Fox lady demon.
>>724507960The first phase is such a cool design.
>>724508051This is 50 feet
>>724508307>NG2>NG3RE>NG4
>>724492221I played NG4 for like 20 minutes before I decided the game's not for me. The magnetism was noticeable, jarring, and very offputting. No amount of technical analysis is going to change that.
>>724508532No one is disputing personal preference.
>>724504842This boss sucked so hard. Projectile boss with not that much going on aside from interrupting the flashing attacks with BR. Waste of time honestly.
