I'm having an OCD breakdown over which gaming headphones / headset to buy.
>>724453163>non-detachable cableI feel like the cable is always the first thing to get totally fucked up, either breaking, having weird artifacts or curling up
i just buy an office headset and call it a day. i never really understood the appeal of fancy headsets
>>724453061My old Koss split in half and one side has no audio. I got them like 10 years ago for $30 so that pic makes me sad. I wanted a gaymen headset to replace my old Razer Blackshark (don't laugh) but the only model is made out of fucking pastic and twice the price. my old one looked like something a helicopter pilot LARPer would wear and it was made out of metal.I'm using some Hyperkin X blue headset and the audio is so flat and tinny that even my half deaf nonaudiophile ass could tell right away.
>>724453061i tried some super fancy headphones once but found them worse than some 15 dollar earbuds so I sent them back
Your headphones don't matter because ultimately the receiver is your ear which is probaly fucking up the signal so why bother trying to get perfect sound anyway
>>724453223I'm not a shill but I got the pro X variant that does have the detachable cable for the exact reason you mentioned
I only use the MDR-7506. The pads deteriorate every few years and I replace them.
>>724453061My 15$ acme headphones sound better than any expensive headset I've ever had.
I just use these wireless headphones.I know, them being bluetooth will piss /v/irgins off, but I really like em and I don't experience latency problems when playing games.
>>724453431How are those going to help you catch the roadrunner?
>the perfect headphones for gaming and music doesn't exis...*blocks your path*https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50xSTS-USB-StreamSet-Streaming-Headset/dp/B0BRQNJG7X
>>724453061I use speakers, good luck or whatever.
>>724453456I had those and I liked them but they broke one night when I put them down on my bedside table. I didn't do it hard I just gently laid them down and then the terrible chink ass plastic snapped and the whole thing fell apartWould not recommend
>people shilling the FiiO FT1, saying it's the new king of close backs>erm actually the cable is literal dogshit, horrible microphonics, worse than $12 apple earbuds>just spend $80 on an aftermarket dual 3.5 cable brooooo
>>724453361>your ears can't even detect over 60fps
>>724453479Came with a free anvil and some dynamite.
ive had a pair of hd 598 that have lasted me like 13 years so fari only ever have to replace the cable once in a while
>Audiophile>Using goyphones>Not using a surround sound setup
>looking for good headphones>every recommendation is for open-backFuck. You. Even in nice white suburban neighborhoods you still hear car noise, lawn mowers, leaf blowers, etc. Closed backs are so much better for real life.
The last two I've tried started hurting my ears after like 20 minutes of using them so I started using my phone ones instead. Been going for a few years and I don't feel the audio quality has gone down.
I've got audiophile cans but still don't into EQ so I probably might as well have bluetooth snoyphones or some shit
>>724453163I really liked my 700 pro x, but them changing the headband design after they had already put out the 770 pro and it just destroys itself was fucking insane. they went for such a flimsy designeven the revision is crazy and has so many issues, the 770 pro x with the detachable cable is basically a perfect design that will easily last you a decade, sturdy as hell, and sounds pretty good (not as good as the 700 px, but who tf wants to constantly deal with replacing and fixing shit).I had fixed the headband so many times, then it destroyed the cables and I had to rewire them and build my own headband, then the cable failed and I had to replace it, then the port for the cable failed and I replaced, and when they stopped working again I just fucking gave up on them. the 700 pro x are so comfy and sound so good, but they break so much
>>724453639i bought a pair of hd6xx like 8 years ago and still use them. ive tried more expensive ones but these are by far the most comfortable and all around useful pair i have. second favorite is the akg701q but the headband sucks and it takes a while to break in (but it does eventually)
>>724453660I don't understand people who recommend open backs, they just seem completely retarded to me.If you have a quiet space, so no extra ambient noise, no other people noise, and don't care if people hear what you are listening to, then why the fuck would you not use speakers. that is the situation for speakers.the whole reason for using headphones is because it IS NOT quiet, you need privacy, or you don't want to disturb others. Which open backs don't do.Let alone if you use them out and about.Any situation you would use open backs you can just use speakers in for a better experience, for any other situation you cannot use them or they would be a problem you would need regular headphones anyway.
>>724453245>Razer Blackshark>made of metal the only metal one is from 2012 and the new current editions are made of plastic and slammed in reviewsIf it lasted 13 years that's pretty impressive
>>724453790>the 700 pro x are shit tooholy shit it's impossible to find good headphones I was considering these
>>724453061I stopped using all headphones due to my dogshit tinnitus
>>724453061>HeadphonesAnon just use speakers what the fuck are you doing.
>me testing out midi soundfonts for dos games
>>724453926maybe i dont want a bunch of big ass speakers around my desk and shit?
>>724454009Speakers that sound as good as $120 headphones cost like $2000
>>724454131so you want 2 speakers the exact same size strapped to your head instead for triple the price?
is this the thread?
>>724453926Open backs are nowhere near loud enough to disturb anyone else. And they're far more comfortable for longer periods than closed, especially in warmer climates/seasons/rooms/etc, and the better soundstage is more suited to vidya.
>>724453970they arent shit, anon is just being a lazy nigger
>>724454263That's some big slugs.
>have some ideas on what to get for keyboards/mouse>no ideas about headphonesI’m not gonna pay a premium for Razer/Logitech shit. Do the chinks have good enough/better knock offs or it’s somehow only the case with keyboard and mouse?
This is the endgame.
>>724454279You absolutely can hear them. Especially when you are in the same room as others. Others have heard mine and I have heard others noises from their open back headphones.It was especially obvious when I used to live with my mate and we had both our computers setup in the same room to game on.And do you know what is more comfortable? speakers. You having nothing on your head.If you genuinely think there is a difference in comfort you genuinely are retarded.I live in the north of Australia just a bit south of being in a literal tropical area and I can tell you its exactly the same open or closed. The only improvement you can have for comfort is speakers or just individual headphone to headphone differences.
consoolt the /g/uide
>>724454362>96 KHzWhy does this exist? Are those people aware of the sampling theorem?
>>724453163I have an MMX 300 which I am led to believe is similar to the 770.The cable was detachable and very much needed to be due to a control box that lets you control the volume and swap the mic on and off being an extreme point of failure. That said, it's unlikely a cable of theirs without that would ever break in a reasonable amount of time. But, maybe you want to keep your headphones for an unreasonable amount of time. And due to the cable failure I only have the shorter one that doesn't separate headphone and mic so I haven't even been able to use the mic.
>>724454561Most people don't even know what a sampling rate is. They think the higher the sample rate the less "stair stepping" you get.
>>724453061>gaming [product]Only retards buy those.
>>724453061I got a pair of the Koss headphones because I thought they looked cool. The cord they come with is really short though, stupidly short in my opinion. I can't run them from the audio port in my motherboard to anywhere near my head.
>>724454709>the audio port in my motherboardDon't do that.
>>724453223i have the 250ohm version, the pads are going to shit way before the cable, and they still can be replaced soo.. great headphones, a bit harsh on the highs for some, just eq it if it's not your taste
>>724454762oh and forgot that : don't buy the 250ohm if you don't have a decent audio interface
>>724454758Eh?What should I do then?
Why can't headphones just workEvery single one I've tried sounds wrong in one way or another
Let me guess, you need more?
>>724454758What, why not? They sound better plugged into the motherboard. If I plug them into the closer to reach one on the top of the case (but the cable is still too damn short to be comfortable) they sound worse.
>>724453061don't get gaming headphones, get good headphones. Buy a separate microphone if you need a mic. Don't buy combined sets they suck.
>>724454946Steeleseries used to be really good though.
>>724454875Depends on how deep you want to go.You can get a DAC that will last you forever and work with even the highest end headphones you'll ever own for around $150 (at least when I bought it), or if you don't plan to go down the rabbit hole you can get some cheap $30 USB DACs that will be measurably better than whatever slop your motherboard has. >>724454930Interference mainly. The DACs won't be good either, but the fact everything is in a metal box means you're actually going to hear your CPU and GPU through your headphones. You've probably heard this on PC speakers when they're on but not playing any audio, it's like a squealing radio noise.
I use picrel. They're great and comfy.
>>724455047Buy a dac but not more than 150. Got it.And yeah, I do hear the radio signal coming from the motherboard. Even when no music is playing but I still have it plugged in. But its negligible when the music IS playing, right?
>>724454946hello linus
>>724453258Good thing your feels are fucking wrong.
I had a false awakening sleep paralysis nightmare where these whipped around in the air above my bed while bending and contorting unnaturally beyond what would be physically possibleAlso the noise canceling circuitry wasn't shielded from interference so you could hear 60hz electrical hums and even cellular signals being decoded from things they were plugged into
>>724455047>You've probably heard this on PC speakers when they're on but not playing any audioNow that you mention it, yeah, I think I do remember thinking I heard audio through speakers when there really wasn't any reason to. I don't recall hearing anything similar through my headphones though. But where do I plug them instead?
>>724455163>Buy a dac but not more than 150. Got it.No, not at all. DACs follow no logic. There are good DACs that cost as low as $15-$20, and objectively bad DACs that cost $500.If you're going for a DAC that you can use on anything, get the Topping D10S. Any distortion it has is below the threshold of human hearing.The only reason to get a DAC better than that is if you plan to record audio, which is an entirely different audiophile rabbit hole. I don't know off hand what the current cheapo DAC is. Dragonfly used to be cheap but now they're like $200 which is retarded. Also it's wroth mentioning the Topping D10s would require an amp, which may not be a good idea for portapros.Let me take a look for a cheap DAC for normal ass headphones.
>>724455305>But where do I plug them instead?USB DAC. Preferably one that isn't overpriced garbage.
>>724453061How did those shitty Koss headphones become such a meme? I remember falling for it and they were even worse than my $5 sony/philips(?) earpods.
>>724455389>>724455306>>724455305>>724455163Ironically it seems the best cheap DAC to get is an Apple USB-C to headphone jack adapter. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-apple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/You don't need to understand the charts, but know that pretty much everything is near or below the threshold of human hearing.
>>724455306>>724455306I got myself a grado labs sr325x if it makes any difference. I only got it cuz the girl at the audio store in Thailand reccomended it to me.
>>724453061Has anything surpassed the shp9500s for that price range?
>>724454263Why it so big?
>>724455526Im willing to spend more than ten bucks but if you say so
very happy with these
>>724455541You'll want to get something more substantial than an Apple dongle then. I suggest buying a separate DAC and amp. You can get combo units, but if the amp dies now you're out a DAC and amp. Topping D10s is $100 on American amazon. I don't know of a good headphone amp off hand because my headphones use a speaker amp. >>724455657Are you the portapro anon? You won't need anything more than that. Maybe if you upgrade to higher end headphones, but right now it wouldn't make sense. Putting your headphones on a amplifier would cause more issues than it would solve thanks to impedance.
>>724455734>Are you the portapro anon?Heh. I guess you get schizos in every board now.Nah man, im just a regular anon. I appreciate the advice.
>>724455813What headphones do you have then? The Apple DAC is remarkable for the price, but it will not power any mid-range or high end headphones on its own.
>>724455434The joke is that the ear clip-ons Koss KSC75, which are cheaper than the portopros, measure pretty good compared to some really expensive shitters. I would actually consider buying them as a joke but they do degrade in real time. IEM's are still better at this bottom of the barrel price point if you can deal with shoving them in your ears.
>>724453061I got myself Arctis Nova 3. It's cheap and pretty good for its price, mic and software are really good.https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/steelseries/arctis-nova-3
Take the IEM pill /v/
>>724455526Is there a version of this that's just a normal USB to headphone jack adapter? I don't have a USB-C port in my PC case.
>>724456606Are you unironically retarded?
>>724456542Literally just use a USB-C to USB-A adapter.
>>724453163Have these for a decade plus now. I had a sennheiser before and the treble was superior.What I don't like, but is normal, is that your music taste changes to suit the headphone, not the other way around.
>>724453061get those wireless sony ones
>>724456468Idk why but I got a couple of cheapass 15€ Sony earphones that sound great, while my 120€ semi-pro IEMs for music gigs sound quite bad - for listening to music, that is.
>>724453061These are good, but they don't make them anymore and the plastic that holds the speakers to the headband is weak, so it breaks if you pull it by the speakers instead of the movable plastic bit of the headband.
>>724454009I don't get this image
>>724456904Not him, but>little buttons in your earvs>big thing that, if not properly adjusted sometimes hurts your earsMatter of preference, but it's not that uncommon, I think.
I never heard an audiophile talking about the kind of music they like.Oh, the might talk about the music they test their fancy gear with but not what they actually enjoy listening to
>>724456990>Fig. 1 - Face scan verification>Ffig. 2 - Boob scan verificationThere you go, retard-kunRemember, you have to be 18 to post here
>>724454263tsuchinoko real
>>724457060I enjoy classical music, I have over a terabyte of it on a hard drive, most of it in 512 dsd.
>>724454551$400 dolla to hear nigger mumble rap tge way it was intended.
>caring about mics on your supreme headphonesLOL. LMAO even. The Porta Pro are alright but way too overhyped. Nothing will beat Pic related.
>>724453061I got some HyperX cloud iiis and got really mad in a league match and threw them as hard as I could on the floor and they survived. That's my input I guess....
>>724453163>gaming headphones>no micWhat
>>724453061Here's some links OP, take or leave it.https://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/stock-headphones/products/fostex-t50rphttps://www.audio-technica.co.jp/product/ATH-M50xhttps://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/pads/products/athsonysubshttps://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/pads/products/copilotNow time to get back to the gaymesas for DAC/AMP:https://www.amazon.com/Fosi-Audio-SK02-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B0CRB676R5https://www.amazon.com/Fosi-Audio-SK01-Compensation-Instrument/dp/B0CF1WL1V2https://www.amazon.com/EMK-Degree-Tablets-Players-Speaker/dp/B0D4D5YGGH?s=electronicshttps://www.amazon.com/Degree-Toslink-Optical-Free-Rotating-Theater/dp/B092S85B41?s=electronicsDas it meng.
>>724457574That guy got booted for being a schizo lol
>>724453061>>724457315Oh yeah totally forgot.if you want mic:https://www.amazon.com/MOTU-M4-USB-C-Audio-Interface/dp/B08129P2XYhttps://www.amazon.com/Foot-WBC-PRO-QUAD-Ultra-Silent-Ultra-Flexible-Star-Quad/dp/B0CV9N16ZW?s=musical-instrumentshttps://www.amazon.com/Samson-Handheld-Microphone-Recording-Podcasting/dp/B001R747SG?s=musical-instruments&th=1Again, take it or leave it. Just some suggestions.Good luck OP. Good thread. But don't do these too often. No one really cares about sound here: most on /v/ are like the dead
>>724457651He got booted for being fucking based.He was 1/2 of QOTSA and Homme knows that.Since his booting it's fucking space rock not stoner rock.Olivari is /v/ in the flesh
>>724453061how? there's so many good brands to pick from, sennheiser, beyerdynamic, sony, audio technicajust get one with a detachable cable and you're good, I doubt you could make a bad purchase
>>724453061Any entry level stereo headphone is great. I would however avoid Audio-Technica's M series if you wear glasses.
>>724456606Over ear headphones are uncomfortable with glasses, so much so I get headaches from the cut off blood flow
>>724457843I'm glad I'm short sighted and not far
>>724457915I have astigmatism
>>724453258the male end or any hard part of the cable is going to cause a hot spot any time the cable moves and eventually fracture the wire/wires inside of it and fail. Detachable cables should be mandatory.
>>724453061I have the biggest ears known to man, and they right one is also deformed because of an incident. So it is impossible for me to find a set that fits my ears comfortably. i just stick with ear phones that feel uneven at times and fall out unless I really ram them inside
>>724457705This post must have been funnier in your head
>>724458019shut up bitch kek
>>724456468I did and they sounded awful. Worst than any cheapo wwal mart shit I've ever had. I even did a bunch of research and got "good" ones
>>724458316kek loser
>>724453163I have those. I just bought these.
Bitches.
>get splitting headaches from using regualr headphones>Valve Index over-ear headphones don't exist outside of the headset>forced to use shitty in-ear plugs
>>724458252And it was in my head because I needed it.
>>724453061A $50 iem is better than all of those.
>>724458559>And it was in my head because I needed it.
>>724453061Go someplace where you can try them on.Don't look at price tags.Pick the one that feels comfiest/lightest to wear.(maybe look up online if that model has any glaring issues i dunno)
my taped-up AKG K52s have served me very well. I took it upon myself to write text all over the masking tape holding the pads together, so I look like someone that's about to commit a crime at all times.
I like my hd 599they are comfybut you can hear everything. get IEMs if you ever have AC or anything like that
>>724458645The fact that you get that mad at corny jokes is hilarious.ha ha ha ha.
>>724457164Also, glasses, like >>724457843Btw, please continue seething, it is most enjoyable.
>ATH-50x are in the ziptie phase of their life because of the plastic cucktab broke that keeps them from hyperflexation on your head>AGAIN>constant pain, ears swollen and bleeding with malformed calloused flesh>ear cups disintegrated and people think you have black brainworms and dandruff, headband is bare foam and has third party coverI'm not paying $200 for a new pair until they fall apart
>>724453061once you go 250+ on your headphones or speakers you can never go back
>>724458373liking them? been thinking of grabbing a pair
>>724453660DT770 pro 80 ohmcomfy and very sound isolating
>>724454551if anyone falls for this list they deserve it
These retailed for $240 originally but I got them on sale for 90 bucks and they're by far the nicest headphones I've ever had. I can actually hear the difference between MP3s and FLACs now. The difference is subtle but it's there
>>724453223>>724453163>I'm not aexactly what one would say
Spend more for some Life quality.These have incredibly ANC, are comfy and have good sound. I also bought the earbud version of these.
>>724455649To feel something, when he jams it up his ass.
even something like this blows headphones out of the water
>>724454263Reminds of a dude who made a video testing audiophile usb cable. He did some blind testing with himself, his wife and a friend. In the end none of them could hear a difference so he concluded his testing was inherently flawed because there MUST be a difference vs any old usb cable he used as control.
>>724460075They are backordered. Waiting on shipping. The reviews are all glowing.
>gaymen is an audio and visual medium>/v/ does all it can to ensure it gets the worst possible audio experience
What I have and it's what I need. Speakers (R1280T) are 8 yo and headphones are so old, I don't remember when I bought them.
>>724453493I'll never buy wired Audio-Technicas again. The cable is expensive and proprietary, will become unglued from the jack and expose the wires in under a year. It also ends up getting really stiff after while, even though when you get it new, it's soft and flexible.
>>724460869Bose QuietComfort Ultra have way better ANC. Though I heard the new WH-1000XM6 are slightly better than the Ultra. Never tried them though, so can't tell if true or shilling
>>724453061get the ones on the far right on the bottom pic , hifiman edition xs
Ohh goody. I can ask these questions now.>1. What are the best headphones for music and has the best bass?>2. What the fuck is the point of open backs?
>>724456990newfag
>>724453258Something is wrong with your feeling then, maybe the mouth breathing caused that
>>724462459>2. What the fuck is the point of open backs?In simple terms, more soundstage.
>>724453163I've been using mine (880 and 990) for almost a decade.The quality issues are>Headband plastic slide part on both sides breaks in half over time. Replacement part from vendor costs $20 (lol, lmao even.) You can and should 3d print the replacement yourself. >Official ear pads go bad (flat, no longer comfy) in roughly a year when in daily use. Replacements cost around $20. I have replaced mine with thicker ones that are even more comfy. >The old coiled cables stiffened horribly over time. Not sure about newer versions if they have fixed the cable material. >Non-detachable cable. Relatively easy to swap to a mini xlr socket if you have a soldering iron, but imo diy fixes like this should not have to be done on a $200 pair of headphones.
>>724463223Meme audiophile jargon
>>724462663>no u
>>724453223They are, but they're usually not hard to replace if you have basic soldering skills. That said, just get a pair with a detachable cable. My HD600s are older than most of the people on /v/ at this point and I've only replaced the cable twice.
>>724463357Stick to your airpods then.
>>724454448>ausfailian calls people retardednow i've seen it all
my ears are too big and alos get hot when use headphones
Are there any wireless headphones that prioritise audio quality rather than meme features like ANC
bad headphones I've had over the years:>turtle beach px21utter dogshit>official sony playstation 3 wireless headsetabsolute dogshit>astro a40absolute trash>jvc ha-sr50xI liked these but the sound would leak like a motherfucker and just like all the rest they were poor build quality shit.>samson semi open-back studio reference headphonesmore dogshit.>randmcnally cleardryve 200overpriced poor quality chinese dogshit>blue tiger eliteit worked well enough and was comfortable but it shit the bed after like 6 months. overpriced poor quality chinese dogshit.>blueparrot s650xtthese are the ones that have lasted me the longest honestly. decent sound but a shitty mic. long battery life and can be plugged in via cable. there are better headphones out there but this one has at least lasted the test of time so if for no other reason I would recommend it. expensive as a motherfucker though, very overpriced.the lesson seems to be that it's best to pay for quality + bluetooth headphones are mostly shit.
>>724453061>doesn’t buy the cheapest shit and yes it until it’s completely brokenWhy?It’s HyperX for anybody who gives a shit
>>724461720can you plug your headphones in those speakers?
>>724464754what keyboard is that?
>>724454703>that fold out trestle tablekek this guy is not a serious autofile
>>724465237Logitech G213 Prodigy
>>724465149No. I keep them plugged into front panel and just switch output when needed.
My previous pair of beyers got ruined due to >>724453223, modifications to hook up a detachable cable, constant resoldering, etc. Gonna get the should I go for the 770 pro x? What ohmage for desktop PC use and the occasional plugging into my small ass guitar practice amp?
>>724453639I've had 2 pairs over the past 15 years and I just periodically replace the ear pads. No sense messing with a good thing.
>>724453061>gaming headsetobligatory
>>724467228Imagine not just playing with portable speakers you can literally get from any hardware store
>>724453061>go through sea of $100+ earphones from online>some kind of issue with them>best pair I've had was a $25 pair bought in a store.I think headphones in general a big meme, it's funny because the more you use them being plugged in all day is fucking up your hearing so much that you're gonna miss any kind of fine tuning to the quality of the audio.
>>724454740>blasting the sound into a small as fuck roomfor what purpose? all sound will now be reflected from the walls, that's fucking retarded
>>724453061Use surround sound speakers like a real man.
>>724453061The people who spend money on expensive cables are usually retards. If you don't think the stock cable for your headphones sounds good then you didn't like the headphones that you bought. The stock cable is intentional part of the design process. That being said my actual hearing is not amazing and I still buy 'audiophile' headphones, why? because most headphones are fucking garbage and you can hear their shit sound regardless. Headphones are such a step down from buying good speakers. That is literally the reason why I opt for the expensive stuff. Speaking of which I'll gonna buy this Audeze game branded thing soon, it's just LCD X's but with a microphone attached. Mainly because they're intentionally easy to drive and the mic attached is just pure connivence. I also don't trust wireless/bluetooth headphones not to sound like shit. But I heard their Maxwells are alright. Still the build quality is likely shittier. I have a pair of closed back planers already I bought a long time back called Mr Speakers Ether C and they're incredible. And typically I wouldn't' even need another headphone but... the mic being attached in the end is actually something I prefer. I've tried the work around solutions but didn't care much for them. I mean I could probably just buy some shitty blue snowball. Still deciding really.
>>724454551I used to own a pair of ATH M50s and I don't remember them being that bad. Then again I know fuck-all about audio stuff.
>>724453061I'm a fan of the HD6XX's, but for the past few years I've only been putting them on when I need to use my mic. Using Speakers is a lot more comfy for me
>>724467968>crank up the volume to max>open all your windows>leave your door ajar>turn your microphone on>turn on microphone audio playbackYup, it's porn game ti-
>just use my phone for Discord while gaming with the boys>finally have to buy a headset for proximity chat games>go to store, see the exact $15 set I used to use back in my WoW days(vanilla to wotlk) over a decade ago still for $15Let me guess, you need more?
Balanced outputs, now THAT is a meme.No, you don't need 3W of power.
Had these bad boys since 2014, have never went back since. I remember thinking my bass boosted Turtle beaches that would break after 6 months were the best ever, until I got these bad boys and it's insane how much better the audio quality is. I've also dropped these suckers dozens of times over the years and not 1 fucking scratch on them.That being said I do eventually want to save up money for some 64 Audio IEMs I hear they're pretty much the next step.
Poor: kph30i clear (they will break)Less poor: open back planar magnetic
>>724453565Works on my machine
My Ath-M50x died today after 10 years of service (busted joint)I want to replace it with something more fancy, but either I have never heard about the companies (meaning they can fall apart in 1 week) or they have obscene pricing (>$1k) because cups are cocobolo wood o algoThe options I looked at>austrian (not painter) sound hi-x65Look robust enough and the sound isn't ass (or so they say o algo)>Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO XSupposed to sound good, but looks really flimsy, especially the pads and joints>FiiO FT5Planars, don't cost $2k>meze the ones with gold and woodI heard that they are ok-ish and can be repaired easilyWhich ones are better in your opinion and why and if you have recommendations please do recommendMainly I am going to use them for bindu gmaes and listening to music and watching movies.
>>724464754I kinda do this but it would be nice to know what cheapest shit is the most durable.
>>724461726MSR7. Just look before you buy, zoomer. Blame yourself, not the brand.
been using earbuds since forever, bjt fkr the past year or so theyve been getting my ears sore. any brand recommendations or models for comfy over ear headphones that fit well with glasses?
>>724453061Are wireless headphones decent now? Im not an audiofag but I do want decent audio in my games
>>724471681Fiio FT1 is the new closed back metaFor open backs the Hifiman Sundara is still one of the main recommendations. Hifiman has infamous quality control, though
>>724472367https://youtube.com/watch?v=jHrwxGrwMMUhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=XDCohM8uNF0
Will this improve my audio?
>>724454309>CardiacsI would enjoy them even if you play them through the PC speaker. Rip Tim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNdnOTvGbJQ
>>724453061>headphonesits time to grow up a little. instead of buying 100 headphones you could have had 1 of these. try being smarter with your money
I have a Sennheiser HD 660S2 which I'm fine with. >>724472367They're more expensive for equivalent sound quality. Aside from that, the main issue now is dealing with bluetooth problems and accepting that it doesn't just werks and drops seemingly randomly. Honestly not worth it for anything you'll do at home/office.
all you need
>>724473384Don't you have a bridge to jump off of?
>>724473134i went from a soundcard (xonar essence stx) to an external dac, i didnt notice any difference in audio quality, i did it because it would free up a port in my pc that i needed for something else
>>724473384is this shitass ancient meme back again?
>>724453223the wire on a koss portapro absolutely gets fucked up after enough time but Koss (at least while I still used them) had lifetime warranties so you can just send them in and they'll give you free ones.Nowadays I just use bluetooth/wireless stuff cause I have to move around too much
>>724473267wtf is that couch placement
why are 200+ dollar headsets sold without a swappable headband? my cheap steelseriess lets me just swap the headband and earcups easily
>>724453061HyperX Cloud is pretty good for gaming, cheap as fuck too just like other HyperX shits, HyperX has literally taken over Logitech's spot for me in 2020 on trusted computer/gaming goods.
>>724474065they sound great and the cost performance is unbeatable
>>724474065why did he do it :(
>>724474530the build quality is so shit that they would probably have cost me more than my $200 headphones over the last 5 years
>>724473267Do I need my furniture in a different perspective to my giant reverberant room for this to sound good?
>>724474982they are $15 and i've only bought two in the last two years, and only because i beat the shit out of my first pair bringing it around with me everywhere and probably blew it out with my ampi still have the parts from the old one to mod my current one too
Steelseries arctis nova 7 sound a bit tinny and unnatural, but at the very least the dongle connection is pretty rock solid, and it doesn't have this annoying "goes to sleep if there isn't any sound playing" thing that like half the wireless headsets I've tried do that literally makes them unusable. The earcups are shallow though so get aftermarket pads.
>>724454551For me, it's the 5-for-15 bundle pack of cheap wired earphones you get from walmart.
>>724453061>"audiophile">Your preferred method of personal listening is to strap two speakers against the side of your head, rather than a speaker designed to access your eardrum inside the canal>the thing bleeds sound so fucking bad that you may as well be listening to speakers
>>724453493wow they took everything that made the headphones great complete shit, the replaceable cable was the best ever, I've had the same headphones for 9 years and apart from replacing the ear pads, getting a sock for the headband, and 3d printing reinforcements, replacing the cable, the sound has been perfect over the years.
why are speaker niggers so fucking annoying?
>>724476302they love producing noise pollution
>on sale regularly enough>parts readily available>soundid flattens them for mixing>otherwise turn it off for games or movies.these guys got me through the last 8 years including 4 years of university for sound engineering, thrown in a backpack etc.replaced the ear cushions when they got old, and the headband cushion is probably due for a replacement but otherwise they're still excellent.
>>724476302They want to occupy spaceLike a speaker
>ATH-MX50isn't this an outdated pair? Pretty sure the K371 has it beat in every metric in modern times, plus the Fiio FT1 is the same price
>>724476231headphones are a compromise for when you can't use good speakers, IEMs are straight up for homosexuals
>>724476431IEMs are for musiciansftfy
>>724476302They are telling the truth. A good $500 bookshelf speakers with a sub BTFOs any headphones at any price range.t. someone who fell for the headphones meme
>speakersfuck you for contributing to noise pollution you black nigger, especially if you live in an apartment
entry level audiophile is the best, below that there is too much normie bait shit and above it, too many autist bait scams
>>724476231anon.....you literally ARE listening to speakers when using headphones.
>>724453061>using the same headphones for 15 years>no replacement in sight feels ok man
>>724453061https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBQYKFR2recommend these. changed my life
>>724476231Why would skipping the pinna and the ear canal be better than using the whole of your hearing apparatus? The outer ear does a lot of work.
>>724476596sure, as long as your room is treated or you're using dsp stuff to tune to the room, otherwise even half a million in speakers can sound awful.
why the fuck do people glaze these things so muchI bought a pair back in 2013 and they were uncomfortable as fuck; only 30-40 minutes and my head/ears would be hurting from the pressure no matter how I adjusted them. The "foam pads" felt like solid plastic.
>>724453163why was this deletedjanny meltie?
huh duh six hunjo chads keep winning
>>724477062maybe he tried them and didn't find them comfortable? or is this board sponsored by hyperX?
>>724476231>speaker designed to access your eardrum inside the canalHow is this optimal, you dumb animal? This means very high acoustic impedance, which means insertion depth and any difference in the shape and volume of your ear canal will have a meaningful impact in the sound that reaches your eardrum.It also means the audio completely bypasses the pinna interaction, which is how human hearing magnifies certain frequencies and identifies localization cues. As a result, IEMs must "simulate" ear gain via tuning, which may be targeting an ear significantly different from yours, thus sounds less natural to how your brain is used to perceive sound. It also means no real soundstage whatsoever.
>>724476928Yeah, but for most people blasting music to get the full use of your outer ears isn't feasible
>>724477392>use foam tips for a good seal>IEM was tuned for rubber tipsmany such cases
Back in the old days, you had to spend a lot of money on headphones because all of the $10 earbuds were JUNK and any headphones under $100 were JUNK as well. Things have gotten a lot better. $30 IEM's are fantastic and I'm even pleasantly surprised by my $15 wireless skullcandy earbuds.
>>724476928I'd also like to add that if the earphone has direct contact with your ear in any way, it's removing most if not all of the acoustics
>asking /v/ for hardware adviceit's literally just a race to the bottom where anons post shit like>buying gaming peripherals>>spending more than on $20 dell headphones>>>needing more than the shitty broken earbuds i found dumpster diving>>>>using audio
>>724453061I never use headphones, I only game with speakers
bro just get the mass drop sennheiser 2xx headphones and call it a day. if u live alone get speakers instead.
>>724477732>muh $30 iemBack to iemg with you, pajeet.
>>724477020they literally look like some kind of skull torture device.
>>724453061Funniest part is how the bottom is complete bullshit and the people participating in this hobby just talk shit believing they're being technical and multiple studies actually demonstrated audiophiles can't win a blind test
>>724477954I've been using $9 panasonic earbuds for like a decade now, comfiest IEMs I've ever used and the sound quality is fine
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/best/by-usage/critical-listening-audiophile
>>724454009You're like the average /ck/ user>What are some good recipes for X?>Dude just eat Y>No I want X>Here, buy this brand>I want a recipe>Here's a really good brand of Y>I want a HOMEMADE RECIPE to MAKE X >[3 day ban for trolling]
>>724478189Yeah I remember one blind test was done comparing $500 audiophile gold-plated cables to a soldered wire hanger and they couldn't tell any difference
>had pic related for about 10 years>finally broke after I dropped them too many times like a retard>bought a second pairSimple as
>>724454148other way aroundheadphones that sound as good as $120 speakers are like $2000
>>724478278I have been using $500 headphones and they are way better.
>>724453590I've been thinking of getting myself a nice pair of headphones, what's a (relatively) cheap set that sounds decent and doesn't muddy the audio, had a detachable cable and doesn't hurt my ears being worn for a couple of hours a day? I've used a few that wearing even just for a non-consecutive 30 minutes a day makes my ears hurt like fuckAlso preferably a company based in Europe or America, not some chink shit, yes I know they probably still buy parts from China but at the very least I want something engineered and ran in the west
>>724478394sunk cost fallacy
>>724453061I have been using a 15$ Sony MDR-ZX110 for the last 10 years because they're super lightweight and heavy headsets give me neck pain
IEMs are a result of the gacha ecosystem
>>724478493sour grapes fallacy
https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Arctis-Wireless-Multi-Platform-Headset/dp/B0B8QP5BGD/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1I got a white pair of these a few months ago, sent them back, but considering buying them again because I liked how you could do say anki flashcards on them without the beginning of the sound cutting out, so the wireless connection was quite good. I've tried other headsets where audio at the beginning of when audio plays is cut out for a second and it is game breakingAlso they work on every console and PC which I likeProblem was comfort, passive isolation but I think these pads will fix all that:Also looks like there are a ton of EQ presets which is coolhttps://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MR3V2ZD?ref_=cm_sw_r_apan_dp_ETSH6WRFN8WT33HV86KA&starsLeft=1&skipTwisterOG=1#averageCustomerReviewsAnchorAnyone else have thoughts on the steel series arctis nova lineup?
anyone have that old 10+ year old excel sheet that lists hundreds of headphones based on the categories of sound quality, comfort, bass, etc. out of ten? i remember it getting linked on some popular audiophile forum many times
>>724476302You answered your own question.
Sennheiser hd58x.had them for over 5 years. not expensive, zero ragret zero fomo, they sound great and are insanely comfy. audiophiles are retarded.ear pads hold up and can be removed easily to replace or clean
>>724456990Claw machine
>>724453061Sr850It's cheap, open, good soundstage, easy to drive and comfortable if you get the version with cloth (fake velour) padsIf you don't end up liking the sound profile it's cheap enough that at the very least it doesn't break the bank for the learning experience
>>724453639>>724466542i've had teh same pair for 12+ years now, only replaced the pads twice, cable still going strong, by far the most comfortable pair of headphones i've ever ownedthe only problem with them is that even with a good dac / amp they lack bass which is why i've got a pair of ATH-M50x's which i mostly just use while listening to loud music or watching loud movies because they aren't as comfortable
Bought Corsair HS80s wireless I seen on sale recently and they are fantastic >comfy as hell>doesn't look horrifically gamery>comes with dolby atmos>mic so good I get compliments as if I'm using a standalone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQTwo thousand seven hundred and fortynine dollars.
>>724477963I still have my 5.1 philips speakers from god knows whenMay I ask what hardware you're using or what you can recommend to get nowadays?
Opinion on the ATH-R50x?
>tfw been using speakers for 4 years and gamer dent is starting to fade
>>724478391retard
>Audiophile headphonesSennheiser HD 600DT770/DT990>On a budget?get an IEM. Truthear Gate for 20 bucksMoondrop ChuII for 20 bucks>Need an C-AUX adapter?Fiio >Need an amplifier?Fiio.>Want to use your wired headphones with bluetooth?Fiio's BTR models.>DAP?DAPs are a meme, if you want to burn 100 dollars for no reason then go ahead.>Wireless?Wireless will never be as good as wired. 20 dollar IEMs easily match the sound quality of flagship earbuds. You should look into whatever features they give you, and NEVER pay more than a 100 bucks for a pair of wireles buds/headphones. They will shit the bed, and they're a shit investmentScarbir.com has everything you need to know.>But muh codecsaptX is the only "premium" codec I've heard make a difference. I can't tell AAC, LDAC and LHAC apart. >bestEarfun Air pro 4Have fun anons, and remember, most audiophile stuff is pure snake oil placebo garbage.
>>724480576how is the battery life?
>>724482478>best>Earfun Air pro 4nice, that's what I have and indeed I like them a lot. The ultra-chink name didn't inspire a lot of confidence at first
>>724482696>Decent battery life with lossless codecs>ANC does it's job well, much better than the Soundcores I had before which gave me random static spikes trying to cancel out sudden sounds>Plays certain new sounds/parts in songs that my other earbuds couldn't>Mic is decent enough for corpo calls>Lots of great presets to play with the EQ>Fully customizable controls>Connect them to my linux machine, sound doesn't change to garbage codecs after reconnecting them>All for 70 freedom bucks>By a brand that sounds like no-name wholesale garbage.I knelt to China so hard that day.
Koss porta pros suck. They're uncomfortable and don't sound particularly good. I got meme:d into buying them back in the day.
>>724454263>all of that insulation on the cable>termination points are exposed metal
>>724482654>>724480576just say the HS80 max, these seem pretty perfect if you need a headset just for PC
>>724455673My moonlight...Rocked my X2's for about 6-7 years. Such great headphones. Only recently had them finally give out on me, so decided to try something new with Edition XS's, which I enjoy, but I'd go back to my X2's anyday.
Steelseries Arctis Nova Pro. Hot swappable battery, can swap headband and ear cups, and the hub allows two inputs you can swap between. Useful for multi desktop setups (work and play). Software is ass. Sound quality is fine. I don't do competitive gaming, so latency isn't an issue. I've had my set for over 3 years now. Does the job.
Opinion from/g>senny hu du 490 pro namba 1Opinions and counter arguements?
>>724453493Should just get a stick mic and a glue sticker with normal ATH-M40x or M50x.
>>724453061I usually don't trust chinese shit but these are the best headphones I have ever owned and they cost like $40
>>724483012I used to buy chink shit because I wanted cheap garbage, now I buy it because it's what gives you the best bang for your buck in a lot of categories
I just with Beyer had international shipping (or any shipping at fucking all) for their accessories, that's like half the reason why I got them and I can't even order them anywhere.
>>724453061No matter which ones you buy, no matter how much you spend, they will make you deaf in the long run. Quitting headphones was one of the best decisions of my life.
>>724453061>gaming headphones / headsetjust get a proper amp/dac and real headphones nigga what are you doing
>>724484360Have you considered just not turning the volume up so loud it gives you hearing damage?
>>724453061Aune dac + amp and Anandas for me
>>724484651WHAT?
>>724484417Gaming headsets have improved quite a bit since 2012 grandpa. They keep making them... obviously the tech will keep improving. At this point most are fine. Not having to deal with wires is great. Most headsets are closed back which is better for noise isolation compared to "audiophile" open backs.
>>724474493Seconding this. I've had the cloud alpha (pic) for years and only had to replace the earphones recently. Super comfy and built quite well
Looks like Beyerdynamic is getting into the gaming headset space. But pic related are Canada / EU only thanks to the cheeto in the white house
PortaPros are unironically all you need. Shame the wireless version is so absurdly expensive.
>>724485605portapro bass sucks and feels muddy/dampi prefer their ksc75s
>>724473134From onboard audio? A bit. The main point of external solutions is to get free of electrical noise inside the case.
This is every hobby. If you value your sanity buy something nice and move on.
>>724456951you have to equilize them to your preferred curve. you probably like harman curve while what you bought is for clarity for live music feedback which will sound like shit.
>>724473267klipsch is a terrible brand
>>724487629yeah all "communities" that revolve around buying products get pretty crazy, for example I like flashlights but I only buy one if I need it while some guys buy several $100+ ones just because
>>724484417>amp/dac in 2025kek its not 2009 anymore grandpa, you can run 300 ohm headphones off motherboard audio for like 10 years now, at most you'd get le apple dongle
I got FiiO FT1. They're nice.
Just go look at one of those audiophile tier lists, buy literally anything in your price range as long as its not in a "shit" tier.
>>724453061Unironically get a $50~100 pair of IEMs. I got an AKG K371 headphone and while they're fine and are even considered particularly good in terms of value, they can't really match the crazy price/performance of IEMs these days.
>>724453061the most sensible advice i can give is that you should order like 5-6 types of headphones at once, open back, closed back, studio style, ANC, headset, then try each one side by side until you find something you hate the least.i will say that if you intend to buy a wireless headset, there are 3 ok options, the arctis nova pros, astro a50s and audeze maxwells. i wouldn't recommend anything cheaper than that because even me as a non-audiophiles can tell that your typical wireless cloud 3s and such sound like shit. i have the astro a50s and it's definitely the best wireless headset i've tried overall. good audio quality and it's one of the few microphones that doesn't totally fuck up my discord kitten attracting voice (actually pretty close in quality to my hyperx condensor mic, which is surprising)
>>724466542what pads do you buy, I was looking at it like 2 days ago. Amazon chink slow seems ok but some comments says the sound change and they break faster. On the other hand buying from sennheiser costs 30 bucks for pads
>no sound out of the left side eventually>always the left side even when plugging into totally new computerI hate headphones so much it's unreal.
What are good headphones for someone that wears glasses? The ones I had always hurt my head with the glasses on.
>>724494826IEMs desu but the pads themselves are what matters the most, look into custom onesalso idk just get a different skull shape I wear glasses too but no pain
I bought some Sennheiser HD215s in 2008 and still use them. In fact, I've had an awful lot of my stuff since 2008.
>>724494032If your sensible advice is telling someone to buy 6 pairs of headphones I'm curious to know what your bad advice is.
>>724496207you return the ones that you dont wanna use. forgor to mention that
>>724496684People like you are why things are so expensive.
>>724496769not my problem
>>724494932I wouldn't mind getting costume ones, that's probably a good idea.
just get pic related for $15. you won't even feel them on your head and they have great quality for what they are. go for the koss kph40s for $35-40 if you want even better ones that are still very light and you'll never even need to bother with anything else for 99% of situations so no worrying about falling into a rabbit hole
>>724498263Look those are good for what they are but some people just like their bass.
>>724482478>Truthear Gate>Moondrop ChuIIwhat about the chocolate diarrhea droplets?
>>724490720Good planar headphones need like a quarter watt to hit skullfuck movie bass levels. You're not getting that out of Apple dongle.
>>724453493i'm using M40x for nearly 3 years at this point, very happy with them
if anyone is using windows, I recommend buying A2DP. For some retarded reason, sennheiser won't let me use my sound personalization as well as aptx HD at the same time natively, but with this I can
>>724453061I wouldnt mind audiophiles if they actually were producing top tier audio contenr and weren’t just massive consumer whores
>>724453061İs the Belkin soundform isolate good Thinking of replacing my jbls with itOr im gonna go for Anker q30-baseus equivalent
>>724494826OP is unironically great. Senn 490s have a cutout in the pad for eyeglass arms. It helps not to wear fucking problem glasses with headphones because anything that interrupts the seal compromises bass.
is this still the best budget interface?
>>724453061The cheapest Logitech headset you can find outperform virtually all others. Also, avoid headsets with metal rims, unless you're into African tribal body modification and want to deform your head.
>>724453456I have these and liked them but sometimes they hurt my head and they also break like nothing at the top and on the sides even if you dont slam them like a gorilla
I don't need more.
>>724500494for headphones? you need a good preamp and almost every audio interface has shit preamp build in, almost as shit as your moboaudio interfaces are used for input devices only get a good preamp
>>724473134holy fuck an audio interface is not meant for headphones you dumb retards
>>724501567:)
>>724503368thats just for monitoring your inputs, the sounds is ass
>>724474493>got one of these>0.001 nanoseconds after warranty ends the mic starts producing demonic noises from bad socket connections>maybe it was bad luck, everyone can only say good thing about this brand, buy another one>same shit happensPAID SHILL POST DO NOT FALL FOR IT
I'm never going back from lightweight buds.
>>724476231>using his ears to listen to music>not feeding stimulus straight into his temporal lobenought but plebeians in this thread
>>724453061Reminder to convert your music to 432 hz
>Wireless AudioFucking kill yourself. Imagine putting anything with a fucking L-Ion battery in/on/around you head.
>>724453061>tfw using some shitty chinese earphones I found in my cable drawer>once they break I just get a different pair from the drawer again
>>724505260do you own a phone?
>>724505529Why yes, what about it?
Anyone paying more than $100 for headphones is a retard when these exist.
>>724505260>posted while driving a car and smoking a cig and also being 375 lbsthose batteries will get you for sure
>>724453061I just use an Astro Mixamp with these plugged in. The reason I have the mixamp is so I get audio from my PC through USB, and audio from my console games monitor.
Just try stuff out before buying. You can't really predict if you'll like or hate them purely from specifications and reviews.
>>724453223>>724453380...wut? I've never had this problem in 20+ years of gaming? It almost feels like those detach plugs would die faster.Fucking volume controls on the cable though, those fucking things are a dealbreaker or have to be sealed in duct tape as soon as you start using the headset, because those things will kill the whole device even if you're not touching them.
i have been using the same 10 dollar sony earphones for 10 years now
>>724477020they sound really good and they're dirt cheap
>>724506125where the cable attaches is the most common failure point in any fixed-cable headset by a mile
>>724473217>https://youtu.be/gNdnOTvGbJQShitposting ~30 years ahead of its time, but I can see the charm.
>>724505932>>724498263>>724473384What's going on here?
>>724477020There's no reason to buy them now since Koss sells several other more comfortable headphones with identical drivers, but they had been the bang for your buck king for literally 50 years now.
>>724454703https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3C4qP09QTI
>He actually uses headphonesEnjoy your hearing damage. I'll just use a speaker since I'm not a 13 year old afraid of his parents hearing him play.
>>724506776and yet you still live with your parents
>>724503368>>724501567>>724473134can anyone explain what the fuck any of this conversation meanslike i have caveman tier audio setup through many mcguyvered cablesi just want something that is above the baseline of not retarded but not rapey expensive for when what i'm used to finally diesi tried audiotechnica mx 40s i think and they absolutely raped my ears while playing arenashooters so i returned themi guess I enjoy "warm" sounding speakers and headphones that i listen to lots of distorted music on with harsh noises rockets and explosions and punk and oldschool techno and house musici never understand any of the descriptors of sound in a way it applies to what i use my equipment for other than "it sounds soothing nice and deep" or "harsh squeaky sizzling ear rape"
What is a good cheap wired headphone set for gayming?I've been using the same one for fucking years and it's got crusty sweat stains inside of the fucking fabric al over.Pretty sure I'm risking health problems at this point if I don't replace it.
>>724506776>he still lives at home>AND is a nuisance to his retired parents
I E M SEMS
>>724506843>>724506881Way to misread, retards.
feels good to not be underage and living with momi just ave a nice 5.1 speaker setup and i love blasting music and games on themcan't imagine wearing a fucking headset on my head like a fucking leash
>>724454703I wish music was good enough to justify this
>>724506881my mom just told me to turn the audio down loli was blasting rockets with a full server in unreal 2k433 and my parents elderlyi love them but i really want a fucking house i can afford this sucks
>>724507008headphone cucks will never understand the feeling
>>724506881>>he still lives at homewhere else am i supposed to live?
>>724507098sex loung on the walloffice up topgarden/swimming pool on the flooryep, it's xbox heineken time
>>724505785>120CAD$Can you just hurry up and fucking nuke Canada already? Put us out of our Jeet infested misery.
>>724507072you will never own a house
>>724507098
>>724507072Buddy our generation got literally fucking betrayed to a degree that hasn't been seen before in a long time.We're not part of the housing market. And we're not even going to get to retire. That's how fucking robbed we were.The only thing we're getting is WW3 and a Civil War in our lifetime. Thank Boomers by pissing on their graves once they finally croak.
>>724453456>"Hi res audio">"Hi res audio (wireless)Lmao.
>>724507297>>724507402will after my parents diere-assuring, but still makes me sadhopefully something decent to hire this year for a good whilealso not american, but i refuse to take part in a retarded civil warif we got robbed that much, it'd be retarded to make it even worse
>>724460869>>724461751Sold the XM5 headphones for the QC Ultra and much prefer those. I prefer the XM5 earphones over the QC Ultra earphones though.
>>724507581be wise about your home after your parents die. ive heard home ownership abroad is a lot worse if you don't live in those multigenerational homes.
>>724507581I would look into your assumption of the house going to you before your parents die. Sometimes the government has policies that make it so that you are taxed a huge ass amount when they die even if they add to their will that the house belongs to you, if that's even something they thought to do ahead of time.If you're not sure the house is going to you, or if you're going to get taxed a high amount for the ownership by your corrupt officials, I'd look into that right now and not sit on my hands like a retard when the bank leaves you homeless.
>>724460869>>724461751>>724507659I'm on the hunt for some ANC headphones soon so I'm appreciating these posts. Have been tossing up between the XM6s and the UQC Gen 2s.
>>724453061Just buy something comfortable.With a mic. Don't care if you don't want to use it, have it available.
>>724507880>>724507772noted
>>724453061If you try enough headphones you will become the bottom pic inevitably.That being said you'd probably be fine with DT770's and it's what I generally suggest to friends that buy enough shitty headsets they finally ask the music man for suggestions>firmly grip head>Soundstage leans towards lows/bass for punch>good clarity regardless>fairly cheap/old but not in an outdated way or shit build qualityI've yet to read the thread but I doubt it gets better. Will be interesting to read and audio adjacent thread where there's no shills that stick exclusively to those forums and ircs.
>>724506484>What's going on here?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OC3P7LVGVEhere you go. koss puts out good products
>>724508034Okay but even with the DT 770s there are basically 5 versions, which ones do you recommend>DT 770 Pro 32 ohm>DT 770 Pro 80 ohm>DT 770 Pro 250 ohm>DT 770 Pro X, latest version with detachable mic but different tuning (some say worse treble)>DT 700 Pro X, basically same headphone but again different tuning
>>724453926Bad openbacks sound like open tin cans. Good openbacks put you center front row with good ear protection in terms of Soundstage.>what's soundstage???Depth and width of audio- shitty headphones start to sound like shitty cans that can't replicate what you're supposed to be hearing. I'm a big fan of Hifiman because while expensive and the biggest con is build quality of what actually holds the drivers and audio hardware. Hifiman are planar magnetic headphones which means they took the benefit of having Godlike Soundstage for the downside of breaking the magnet system if you drop it once.
>>72450821380 ohm will be fine. Ohms are a measure of power draw required by the headphones and generally you gain more Soundstage/"quality" from higher ohms. Most mobos have an amp inbuilt on its own line unless it's old or cheap, so 80 ohms should be EASILY powered by a PC.32 would be for mobile use or a shit MOBO without an isolated line- which invites audio hiss
>>724455434Fuck AI is getting too good. I actually had to ask myself if this was AI or something else. It's so consistent.
>>724507889I've tried a bunch. Between the XM5, QC Ultra, and Momentum 4, here's what I would recommend:if you care about sound quality: Momentum 4 > QC Ultra > XM5if you care about having the best ANC: QC Ultra > XM5 >> Momentum 4comfort: QC Ultra >> Momentum 4 > XM5QC Ultra is the best all-rounder, but the Momentum 4 sounds a decent bit better. QC Ultra sounds a lot better when you drop the bass by 5db in the app (and would make 99% of people happy) (Momentum 4 also benefits from a bit of a bass reduction), but personally I use parametric EQ. XM5 has a bit of a weird timbre to it that I couldn't EQ out no matter what I tried, but YMMV. The ANC of the Momentum 4 isn't terrible, but there's a noticeable gap between it (if you've never used ANC you'll still be impressed) and the sony/bose. The momentum 4 also regularly goes on sale for half price, so it's the easy choice if you can get it on sale.
>>724506846Audio autists forget the needs of people who aren't diving into buying isolated interfaces which soon leads to $80 (on the low end) cables making sense as one of the last ways to minmax interference out of an audio system.If you want something that "works", is tidy and known to be a great quality to dollar solution get yourself a magni/modi Schiit stack. Do not listen to cable autists- it is clear your needs do not share the same ballpark.
>>724508034This anon reporting back in.Better cans discussion than the average headfirst thread since there don't appear to be audio shills here just poor bastards duped into Fiio making headphones now. I cannot speak to their headphones quality but every amp/dac I bought by them was bought in my early learning days and I consider them learning mistakes.
>>724509182Sorry for bumping with a reply to myself but I forgot to mention around 2010 they had a very very very pervasive shill force which lead me to try an amp/DAC combo from them and it is to this day the shittiest one I've ever had the misfortune of burning money on
>>724506846Try the meze 99 noir, they're pretty cheap and are warm to a fault, you might be one of the rare people that it clicks with.
>>724453223I have an old pair of wireless Sony headphones.It had a detachable cable and i had to replace it at lest 4 times in 6 years.Lucky it was just a regular 3-5$ audio cable not some first party thing.
>>724453639Yeah i use the same old takstar hi2050's from about 15 years ago.
>>724453061I need a new pair that won't fall apart in a year or two, I've been putting it off since I don't trust most of the plastic shit I've seen.
>>724506484genuine recommendations
>>724510738I've owned AKG550's (don't for gaming) and 770's for about 10-12 years now. Too many "good cans" do just fall apart eventually. That 770 is built like a fucking tank especially if it's a newer model with detachable cables, which I guess is considered an old model/improvement by now
>>724509372is there a difference between noir, classic and neo? or is it just an aesthetic trim package or whateveri'm guessing the wood back might sound different over plastic
>screamer earrape from /wsg/>none of the shit in this thread matters anymore when I used to look for flac music to listen to and now only hear a ringing on everythingI had some Sennheiser stuff that were pretty good until the shit started flaking on my ears. Paying a quarter of the cost for ear pads seemed dumb so now its just replacing cheap logitech g shit every few years until they wear down too.
>>724453061I've owned sony xm4 and airpods max, they both suck, I'm switching to sennheiser next.
>>724453061I bought $50 headphones recently. Sounded like absolute garbage. Basically like a speaker playing in another room. I returned them and doubled the price.
>>724511313the noir and classic are identical (other than price, because the noir are a deal with Massdrop)not sure about the neo, but you're right that there might be a bit of a difference in sound because of the material change there
>>724511723You can't just buy any random $50 headphones and expect they'll all be the same quality. Those $50 ones from Koss are pretty good. I know people with 5+ pairs of audiophile headphones and they still use Koss KPH 40s as their daily driver.
>>724453061What is your budget? I have tried a ton.If you got 250-ish laying around then just get the Hifiman Edition XS refurb direct from manufacturer. They are better than every headphone sub-1000 dollars easily and anyone that tries to argue this irrefutable fact has buyer's remorse. I use Sennheiser HD800S and have used them for 8 hours a day everyday since December of 2015. My wife mistakenly got the HD6XX which sound like shit but finally upgrade to the Edition XS when she shorted her absolutely disgusting sounding HD6XXs.They are genuinely insane for the price. Also it is critical whatever cope choice you go with to EQ them. Download Peace Graphical Equalizer and use https://autoeq.app/ to automatically generate a perfect tune based on your preferred target. With the XS you won't need an AMP but you will need at least a cheap 50 dollar DAC.
>>724453061Might as well wait for bluetooth 6.0, supposedly it will fix most lag issues and will improve battery time.Just wait and see if it does check out in the end.
>>724513984This guy knows his shit but I'll suck off Hifiman all day every day for everything except the build quality of the band, cups, etc. The "guts"/important hardware is impeccable albeit known to be fragile. The build quality around the important fragile guts that make it sound good are usually terrible and on a finite lifespan.
>>724513984>>724453061If you don't have 250 the best headphone around 150 is easily the Sennheiser HD560S (watch sales, check slickdeals.net). It is the only headphone worth it from Sennheiser until you reach the HD800S. Avoid the HD600, HD650, HD6XX. The 598/599 is great if you can find them for 50 but the 560S is objectively superior. Genuinely I wouldn't go above the Edition XS at 250-ish unless you have a bunch of money you want to spend then you have some fun options (like the HD800S) or some crazier more expensive options.>>724514174Yes you should be delicate with the ChinkFiman products but they are INSANE value. It is absolutely embarrassing what they have done to the headphone market. The Edition XS is absolutely incredible. Just stick with stock pads and get a hanger for your headphones. Route your cable right, don't trip over it, take care of them and you'll be fine. The Sundara 2020 open is also OK but it is about the same price as the XS and requires heavy EQ to fix some wacky OoB tuning.If any /g/remlins are in here they're sure to reply with some FiiO cope. The only real competitor in ChinkFi openback headphones is Moondrop which shows extreme promise but they have a few bugs to work out. Guarantee within a year they'll be a top dog. The Para2/Cosmo show they are listening but still have a lot of work to do.
>>724499939BumpI don't use it with phones at all(i have a baseus e5x and a fake apple earpod wired for that)İts used for PC only
>>724513984how does the Edition XS compare to the 6XX? I have the Arya Stealth and I just find the 6XX cozier for long listening sessions (not because of the comfort, but just the sound is more laid-back)
>>724515369Like being at a one-on-one live performance just for you vs having someone shit into your ear through a funnel. (XS vs 6XX)
>>724515678isn't the arya stealth significantly better than the edition xs? if you're just talking about fidelity I've already got that.
>>724454263those are some nasty ass garloids
Stop propagating this shitty meme. Portapros are tuned like dogshit.>>724468416They're perfectly fine headphones that have been around for a while at a consistently accessible price. That said they have been around for like a decade where other better headphones have since come out at the same price point. The M50x mainly gets flak from people who are circle jerking but the genuine criticism is that you can find better nowadays
>>724515369Exaggerating a bit of course. Genuinely the Arya is great with low distortion. The HD6XX doesn't EQ well but the Arya does. Just EQ it to sound warm! >>724515678You need this software: https://sourceforge.net/projects/peace-equalizer-apo-extension/Here is the EQ tool: https://autoeq.app/Here is a Harman Over-ear 2018 tune: Preamp: -5.48 dBFilter 1: ON LSC Fc 105.0 Hz Gain 5.9 dB Q 0.70Filter 2: ON PK Fc 66.7 Hz Gain -0.8 dB Q 1.20Filter 3: ON PK Fc 116.3 Hz Gain -1.6 dB Q 0.29Filter 4: ON PK Fc 677.0 Hz Gain 0.9 dB Q 3.29Filter 5: ON PK Fc 923.0 Hz Gain -1.2 dB Q 3.06Filter 6: ON PK Fc 1713.4 Hz Gain 4.8 dB Q 1.42Filter 7: ON PK Fc 2096.3 Hz Gain 1.4 dB Q 4.18Filter 8: ON PK Fc 2979.1 Hz Gain -2.5 dB Q 3.26Filter 9: ON PK Fc 4925.1 Hz Gain -5.7 dB Q 3.11Filter 10: ON HSC Fc 10000.0 Hz Gain -3.3 dB Q 0.70>>724515871Kinda. It has more potential but the out of the box tuning is a bit wack IMO. It is better built and has lower distortion meaning you can make it sound however you want with EQ which if you paid Arya money how don't you have an equalizer installed? Peace Equalizer APO is a requirement for using headphones on PC.
Had these for a few years now. Too bad their corded headphones break so easily. Good battery life and good sound, open back so comfy, not as loud as their other open backs.
>>724453061hd560s if you want natural. dt770 if you want more bassy. Or if you just want a gamer headset buy a hyperx, steelseries or logitech and get over with it.
>>724516162I already use peace, you can't fix things like attack/decay in peace though, can you?
>>724514554>avoid the HD600opinion discarded
>>724453456i use wireless. i wont ever go back to being tethered. i can just walk around my house now.
>>724479817I fucking HATED this piece of shit.>drop it even slightly, the plastic holder of the cups cracks and needs to be replaced>cable reacts to skin oils and hardens and becomes brittle within a few monthsNever had such issues with any other headphones in my life.
>>724516936well you should, if you want the 600 just get the 6XX or you're wasting money
>>724453061i bought an audiophile headphone and put a magnetic mic on it. probably the best sound experience ive ever had and i dont plan on switching anytime soon. i can now gladly hop on the "fuck gaming headsets" team.
>>724516162>Peace Equalizer APO is a requirement for using headphones on PC.no it's not you fucking idiot
>>724517050600s are legendary as reference headphones, really flat sounding.whats the point in having a low noise floor and quality cables and all the other shit if your headphones have blown out bass
>>724509182I got myself a btr5(my phone's 3.5 jack is fucked up) for whenever I'm out with IEMs. Works good enough. Can't attest to other Fiio products though
>>724517158what kind of magnetic mic?
>>724517257It is for non-retards. But you can keep being retarded if you want.
Headphones suck. My Aful Explorer iem's with memory foam tips destroy my HD600's in terms of comfort, clarity and bass. All for 100 bucks. Haven't touched them for a year.If I want "sound stage" I'll blast my speakers so you actually feel the music.
>>724517971You could just get headphones that come out the box with decent tuning instead
>>724518074No headphone is perfect. Even the best headphones like the HD800S and Edition XS benefit from tuning. Also what a listener values will vary wildly base on the shape of their ear even ignoring tastes. So you're wrong anon. Dead wrong. Sorry to break it to you.
>>724509182their amps/dacs are horse shit because its chinese coded softwareTheir new headphones are fine though since theyre all mechanical, no room for shitty chinese coding to fuck it up. I own the FT1 as well as HD800, Z1R and HE6SE and they're pretty good for the price
What's a good basic headset that I can also use on work calls? Over ear preferred but on ear is fine too.
>>724518321You lack context to my personal preferences and therefore are incapable of coming out of your rathole to say I'm wrong. I seek out studio headphones with neutral responses because I'm the type of autist to listen to songs untouched in their intended mix. It's rich of you to tout "listener values" while disregarding that I also have my own
>>724518074this, that other anon is a moron
>>724517424are you saying the 6xx has blown out bass?
>>724501567that's weird, I plug my headphones into them.
>>724518323>chinese coded software>amps/dacs are horse shit I would NEVER promote FiiO but there is no fucking software on a DAC or AMP. The only thing that matters on a DAC are the chips like AKM AK-4499, AK-4191, ESS Sabre, or ES9038Q2M/ES9068 and for the firmware to literally function. The only thing that matters for the AMP are the Op-Amp chips like the Sparkos SS3602, TI NE5532, BB OPA2134PA, etc etc. You should stop visiting shitty non-science forums and leddit. The only source for audio discussion is https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php - retard.>>724518569My god you're an idiot. Enjoy your day anon.
Okay now recommend me a headset, as in headphones with a mic
>>724516162the frequency response of my left ear is fucked up, can I use whatever this is to compensate for that?
>>724476371I'm torn between my 990 and my 6XX, 990 are infinitely more comfortable but I think 6XX sound better by just a bit. I can't see how headphones can get much better, maybe I'll find out next year.
>>724518675Harman neutral is not a true neutral
>>724516162Protip: measurement accuracy starts getting bad at 6k-8k so any filters above that should be tossed aside. Changes of less than 3db+/- should also be carefully considered as our brain normalizes near bands with each other to smooth stuff out. It doesnt hurt to include them but minuscule 1 db changes are very likely to not be audible.
The Porta Pro is a gem. I hate massive cans and the PP sounds nice and warm.
>>724518862>Harman neutral is not a true neutralNo one said it is. There is no such thing as "true neutral" because neutral is relative to the source and literal human pinna. If you're going to try to use a fallacious argument of pedantry at least address something that was said retard.
>>724453061>>724453230>>724453245Buy these, retards. They cost like 30 bucks and have the sound of headphones that cost hundreds.
>>724517047I've heard of the quality issues so I'm always extremely careful with them, also replaced the cabled that came with it with a shorter one.
>>724517827antlion modmic
>>724519649I wasn't making an argument, I was just stating something. Might you have a persecution complex? The namecalling is very uncouth of you by the way
>>724519809Good pick
>>724453061get an audio collar
>>724453061I accidentally smudged my new OLED monitor and wanted to give up pc gaming completely I once also saw a tiny bit of stuttering and was convinced my gaming PC was irrevocably damaged and spent years obsessing over frame times. In fact if you look up frame times in the discussions tab on Google search all the topics were made by me
>>724453061what's with the meme that the porta pros are $50?i can get them for 30 euros, tax included
Just so you all know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_sa915TD-o
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>>724453061I just bought a pair of akg k372s and a clip on mic, pretty happy with them>>724461218I have the standard version of these, theyre pretty nice>>724505737this is awesome>>724521879he looks incredibly smug
>>724453061get a $30-100 iems and move on. comfy as fuck for prolonged sessions and reproduce the sound as good, as significantly more expensive equivalent over ear headphones. also, portable.
>>724522548>comfyyou can wear IEMs for 18 hours a day without issue?
>>724523040yes. but you need to buy with the comfort in mind, e.g. something with a resin shell that is ergonomically shaped. i use t3 plus, but have no clue what today's market equivalent would be for this criteria, let alone with the same signature.
>>724482478>DAPS are a memeNo they are not a meme but dedicated devices unlike something like a smarthphone that always has an integrated DAC/AMP chipset.Before there were faggot phones, there were DAP (formerly knownly as "mp3 players")>aptXAny bluetooth is lossly audio. AAC is cool, LDAC (go team Sony in audio. fuck everyone who says otherwise), and that communist Chinese rip off LHAC which are only good for high end AAC encoding masters and FLAC level 5 compressed audio. Maybe even Monkey Audio file streaming.
>>724484132Sennheiser is at this point the "read it" (get it) default brand to recommend but frankly there are so many other high-end boutique brands that you can blow your money on for what Senn is charging. Like you're better off buying those plastic clear Hardon Kardon speakres that were for the iMac of 15 years ago.
soundcore liberty most recent model... why?>bluetooth>ANC>earbudANC will make it very immersive.
>>724524749I like the a40s
HD6XX for $179 - $10 on first drop purchase is pure value.
>>724507098Not everyone lives in a sex dungeon/pornographer's studio in Austin, Texas or San Diego, California.> inb4 "I don't live in either state faggot" - you may as well given that amount of waste real estate. And that dropped ceiling? Damn son, that's sketchy.
just get them cheapshits trannies worry
>>724517424Yeah they're legendary. Legendary in how they are marketed. If you're going to fall for that then I've got a Toni Robbins self-help course ticket to sell you.
>>724453639>hd 598Great choice. You should consider replacing the earpads once a year. You have no idea how much it will improve clarity. They are designed around the pads. Genuine or as close of a knock-off as you can get. They are my 4th favorite headphone.HD800S > HiFiMan Edition XS > Sennheiser HD560S > HD598/599.You have no need to ever upgrade IMO, but if you did want the 560S or Edition XS would be a nice step-up. But genuinely try a pair of replacement earpads. You'll be SHOCKED at the improvement. None of that dekoni nonsense. Genuine or knock-off velour pads. I'm >>724513984
>>724525152>dekoni nonsensenta, but qrd pls
>>724453061HyperX Cloud II is all u need
>>724525398>nta, but qrd plsHeadphones are tuned specifically for the pads they ship with. The porosity, the depth, shape, etc. When you change to some dimensionally or density different pads it changes the sound characteristics dramatically. It is a bad idea always unless you've found 3rd party reviews with comparative FR curves and like how they change the audio (almost never for better).
>>724456468Ear rape
>>724468783chewing on this mic to make it clip while playing TF2 on my family's 2009 iMac running windows vista via bootcamp on a 2.4 ghz netgear connection was PEAK FUCKING GAMINGNO I DON'T NEED MORE
>>724525883Are these called "iems"? Aren't they just earbuds.
>>724453061I bought 200$ Sennheisers that sound worse than my 60 dollar gamer headset
>>724458675>>Go someplace where you can try them on.>2008+17Good luck with that
>>724526037The thing is that senheiser is very neutral and does not have V shaped sound profile (stronger boss, lesser mids, stronger, another bump at the highs) like gamer headsets do. The senheisers probably do sound "objectively" better, but sound isn't all objective, it's what you like or grew into. You can change yourself, or not, you choose.
>>724526173>bossbass*
>>724526037Did you plug them into an amp? Are they the kinds with digital processing built in? They sound like shit with it disabled.
>>724453061im currently driving meze 99 classics for a bit since I saw they released a new version of them
>>724456468Great for everything but gaming if you get something nice. I love my Blessing 3's.
>>724526037You're going to learn to love them. You've been listening to something a certain way and think it's good, but now you're hearing those same things in a different way. Go do the peace equalizer apo thing and then give it a month or two. Try your old headphones again and be amazed at the shit you were listening to.
>>724453061I deliberately buy budget headphones because I know for a fact I would become too autistic over sound quality if I kept scaling up my spending. Besides, it doesn't even matter for vidya.
>>724526523Good imagining matters for fps tryharding, and soundstage and bass for immersion.
>>724526770nonsensical buzzwords: the post
>>724526523$200ish headphones + whatever you need to drive them is about as good as it gets until you're looking at 800S price range. I understand what you're saying though.
>>724526834Being able to pinpoint sounds, separate sources, or hear the vibration aren't buzzwords.
>>724526937200 is what I meant by budget, considering audiophiles spent thousands on this stuff. I've got a 990 Pro and another cheaper closed-back but that's about it. Drivers and amplifiers be damned.
>>724494523>>724466542I'm also looking for pads. My 569s flake over everything and I can't find anyone selling replacements.
>he's a headphone cucklmao
>>724527698>he lets other people listen to his musicthe ultimate cuck
>>724507334>no sheets on the bedgod damn thats gross, do you ev->pants so large it fits on the beds headrestholy shit
>>724527556Nice, yeah that price range is about as good as it gets for normal people. I couldn't imagine what I would expect for sound out of $1000+ headphones.
>>724471681Austrian Audio Hi-X65 are bad hands downBeyerdynamic's higher end models have excellent build quality (buy them now before they switch production from Germany to China after the buyout) but have spicy treble and deserve EQFiiO is good sounding Chinesium, often heavy and uncomfortable with dodgy build quality. If you buy FiiO go FT1 (not Pro)Meze just put out a revamp of the 99 Classics that have been received very well in sound and comfort, and Meze build quality is greatIf you want a closed back headphone I'd recommend FiiO FT1 on the cheap end, Meze 99 Classic v2 on the expensive end
hey /prod/, what buffer rate do you guys usually use for your daw? I can get with lower buffer sizes but often times I always go with higher since I don't record.
>>724527698I live innawoods. This is my setup. I peaked the levels one day, sound shaking my entire two story home, walked over to my neighbors house a mile or so away. Couldn't hear it. Feels good man.
>>724471681i have some dt 990 EDITIONs, i fucking hate that naming scheme, and i used them for years. had to replace the plastic slide clips with a 3d printed set off ebay because they broke, eventually they got supplanted by hifiman he-xx and then monoprice m1060 because i like the planar magnetic sound better.
>>724453223horse shit. My cable is still going strong and ive pulled, stretched, pulled that thing around my cock and it still hasnt ripped or fucked up.
>>724519703I have them. The sound is decent, but they're uncomfortable as fuck, made me an IEM fag.
Why don't people just use their speakers? Why does everyone need fucking headphones? Just turn your speakers up.
>>724480576Yeah these are great but the build quality is pretty shit
>>724471681>BeyerClosed back. Trash but comfy>FiiOPositive reviews driven exclusively by copium and buyer's remorse, avoid>MezeLMFAOThere are two options for you. Sennheiser HD560S for 150$ or Hifiman Edition XS (refurb from the manufacturer site) for 250$. The former is perfectly neutral and the later is perfect at damn near everything and planar magnetic as well, worth a grand easily.
>>724532810Headphones sound better unless you have a sound treated room.
>>724533309This is poorfaggot rent cuck cope, you use headphones because you have shared walls with roommates or neighbors.
>>724524749>ANC makes it immersive
>using wireless headphones>shooting microwaves directly into your headEnjoy your brain cancer
whats your thoughts on daps?
>>724461547Lots of people play their online games with audio disabled and have some slop music play in the background.
>>724461547Movies are audio and visual too and you don't see anybody watching movies with headphones
>>724533679When I do speedrunning sessions I sometimes will play eurobeat to get really pumped up and focused.
>>724454740you don't actually like music unless you have 2 soundginas like this man
>>724533921That's the only way I watch movies. I don't want to hear the outside world.
>>724453061do not fall for the gimmicks, NEVER buy anything that is sold as a gaming product. they are unilaterally inferior to generic audio and always marked up.all you need is a pair of phillips SHP9500s and the aliexpress DAC/AMP "aiyima dac a-2". you will be in heaven for very very cheap. i have had retards who literally outspent me by hundreds of dollars be blown away by my audio setup, because they fell for overpriced garbage.if you need a mic get a $20 usb desk mic from amazon. i PROMISE this is all you need.
>>724534387shp9500s are $80 these days old man they haven't been the bang for buck champ in a while
>>724534448just posting what works on my machine :)
Are any of the Hyperx ones decent?
>>724533383Dilate troon
This is all I need
>>724477062I got banned in a different thread for something unrelated, mods' latest obsession is deleting all posts you made from that IP.They only did that occasionally back in the day. It's annoying.
>>724534552>only troons can afford a house and speakers Jesus you are poor
>>724525152>sennheiser>american made
>>724535434You will never be a woman :)
>>724535770Yes I know, I have never said I was. Enjoy your apartment, headphones, and poverty.
>>724536309You are a freak and there's a 41% chance you're going to rope yourself, audiophool troon
>>724536358>poverty screeching intensifies You should charge troons rent for taking up so much room in your head.
