https://store.steampowered.com/app/1063730/New_World_Aeternum/LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>new mmo gets hyped up as the wowkiller (for real this time)>its dead within 3-4 yearsevery time
>>724454545Thats what you fucking deserve for not being p2w like the chinkoid games Lost Ark and Throne & Liberty. No good deed goes unpunished. Sword of Legends Online deserved to die for no p2w too. Hopefully next time they learn to p2w the absolute FUCK out of the game.
>>724454614>gw2 still alive and getting contentweird timeline we live in
eso sadly is the last best mmoand its near the end of its life cycle
>>724454545Maybe the devs should've tried and coded better otherwise they wouldn't be laid off like the useless retards they were
>>724455652ESO: Offline>ez money
all my homies play blue protocol star resonance
>>724454545The devs delisting the game and purging the steam page basically is gigabased.
>>724455652ZOS already fucking murdered it with the retarded normie they have as combat lead fixing shit that wasn't broken and killing all class and build variety, forcing everyone into a single hard meta build for every setup. Even the PvP, the game's saving grace for endgame became an unplayable mess years ago both due to the lag (from their unmantained servers) and because there's too much powercreep.
I don't care still playing it
>>724455797why delist it though. it's already confirmed to die.
>>724456023it's not exactly delisted, just not purchasable, and I assume it's for legal reasons since their studio won't exist anymore soon.
>>724455987Only until 2026, Anon. After that, Jeff will shut down the server.
>>724455652Character models and armor polycount sucks. I hate spandex armor.
>>724454545It honestly lasted far longer than I expected, it never fully died either but I guess that actively developing it just isn't worth the cost
>>724455652>eso sadly is the last best mmoand ironically it hasn't been a mmo in eons
>>724456023>>724456093They implied in their statement that the game would remain purchasable in the meantime but it's not.
>>724455987The devs are gone, they can quite literally pull the plug randomly in 2 weeks and you won't do shit but cry about it. It's over man. I don't even think a private server would succeed for this
New MMOs will never workThe world is not built for social interaction anymore.
>>724456345thisoutside the first 2 weeks where there's fake interaction because streamers are paid, the games fucking dead
>>724454545Anon, people are losing their jobs.
>>724454950that really is the weirdest shit. NCSoft did slam the door on other anet productions and chained their asses to GW2, though, so GW2 is only alive because NCSoft is too invested in anet. Shouldn't have killed Paragon Studios, assholes, City of Heroes was great.
>>724454545If this doesn't show you faggots that mmos are a dying breed then I don't know what will. They cost a fuck ton to make and the return is almost impossible without mtx out the ass.The funny thing is though, AI might be what could bring mmos back from extinction despite this game getting canned for some snoop dogg AI game. AI could offload a significant amount of time and costs to companies making their games so we could probably get new world relaunched again in the future.
>>724455652The fact you don't get rewarded with stats or something for 100%ing every zone made me quit the game. Also it's ugly as fuck of course, I only want to play sexy MMOs, but I was content to stay there for a while otherwise. 0 significant reward for exploration.
even when you could socialize in mmos playing one was just guilding with people who wanted to get to the end as fast as possible and then complained there was nothing to do or when they made an alt they complained they had to get to the end as fast as possible again.
play wurm online
are new world players going to transition to xiv or are they already there?
>>724454545I thought they revived after their last update with all the shilling and shit?
>>724456623I was thinking turtle wow or maybe eso
>>724456623oh we're transitioning alright, don't you worry
>>724456735Stop talking like a faggot
>>724454950pushing out updates AND new expansions since the latest one released yesterday
GW2 fucking sucks dude.
>>724456345Nah, the problem is more that MMOs haven't adapted how social interactions have changed online. It's all still built upon perceptions made during the days when just being online and being able to interact with people at all blew people away, let alone in a video game. Nowadays, people are so used to being online that when they play a video game, they only really care about the video game and don't want to chat unless it pertains to it, and even then they usually don't feel the need to unless it's a "serious match" or what have youWhat they need to do is design the game so you need People and not just Bodies or the results of their work, but instead every MMO still just aims for the shallowest level of cooperation that just about any game can provide. That, or they completely half-ass it and then eventually roll back anything that would've made it unique
The audio in this game was great. Made woodcutting the best I've ever experienced in an mmo
Gw2 combat just feels weird. Boosted a mesmer something (them daggers that are around you) and I push all my buttons, no idea what is going on, nothing dies and the mob kills me in 2 hits.Uninstalled and never again
>>724456869It doesn't matter what we think because the game is clearly doing well enough.
>>724454545>>724456668Too little too late, new expansion brought in less people than an update in 2023 so the game was always doomed to begin with
AYO DEMARCUS LOOK AT HE HAHAHAHAHA
>>724456938>now that new world is dead we will never get a full 3D mmo with really good sound design and life skilling system akin to Runescape
>>724457028Never boost classes in gw2, makes it way harder to learn. You also need to spec out your gear for more survivability if you don’t wanna be a glass cannon. It’s actually a crazy deep build system but some classes have absolutely obnoxious APM requirements to deal average dps(Mesmer and ele are among the worst for this). If you ever try playing again look up a “low intensity” build.
>>724457143it's a curse every mmorpg player bears
Swolebenji fucking won lads.
>>724457183if you want life skilling project gorgon has that
I had a friend who thought this game was the best thing ever. And when we tried to play it together we just spent 40 minutes walking to talk to an NPC just to kill the same skeleton pirates we were killing 40 minutes ago.
>>724454950Even weirder is that SWTOR is somehow still running and has a playerbase
>>724457245https://steamcommunity.com/id/SwoleBenji/recommended/1063730/
>>724457280tor was basically saved when broadsword took over since the game was on very existent life support under bioware
>>724457245>>724457309Why are you summoning this fucking specter into our midst?
>>724454545I haven't seen a single bit of gameplay from this game and I've seen Concord's shitty gameplay at least.
Mabinogi is the best mmo. I will not elaborate.
>>724457363Because he's hilarious and bullies normies in MMO's and that's why I love him.
Why did they bother shilling it so hard recently if they were just going to cancel it? Over the past month I saw non-stop bot posts and fake player reviews saying New World is totally good now and it's so back. I get the feeling these niggas didn't want to get fired
>>724454545Isnt this the game that that woman got banned from for milking the cow?
>>724457453Yes!
>>724457443he killed afk brazillian bots half his level what a grief
>>724454545STOP KILLING GAMES
>>724456345just imagine if you could say anything you wanted in a videogame? It would make all the basedboys and cunts fuck off from gaming and you could have a conversation with your bros again without having to fear to get banned because you insulted some fringe minority that isn't even listening.
Wasn't this the game that like blew up people's GPUs and shit?
>>724457489You're talking about a guy that held several game servers hostage so hard he got front page'd on reddit over it.
>>724457453I'd milk Annie as well if you get my meaning
>>724457562buy an ad nobody is going to subscribe
>>724457494noooo, muh profits
>>724457609You realize he's already over 100k Oh wait, 164k now lmao.
>>724457450No shit, this is just a surprise gutting from Amazon looking to put all their eggs into the AI basket just in time for the AI bubble to burst and start another financial megacrisis. But tbf AAA gaming is about to die too.
99% of you probably didnt even know New world was getting updates for the past 3 years, whats the big deal that they stopped?
She'll out-live them all.
>>724457450what shilling? they dropped a whole free expansion and there was nearly 0 marketing.its clear they shit out whatever content they had left, they knew the game was done.
>>724457450>Why did they bother shilling it so hard recently if they were just going to cancel it?because people likely didn't know and are finding out with this update just like the public is. you underestimate how scummy businesses are.
>>724457657ai scam videos get more views come on buddy im still not going to sub
>Benji is actually posting in this threadJesus Christ
>>724457824Desperate times call for desperate measures.
>>724457494>Games Saved: 0>Profits made: 100k+Why is nu/v/ so easily swindled by ecelebs?
>>724457330No, SWTOR was saved by the movies.They were shit but they brought huge swarms of players. It was in the top-5 MMOs playerbase during that time.
What a dog shit game this was.
>>724457450Amazon, like most large corporations, is heavily compartmentalized. Half the time when something gets throttled like this, the developers find out the same time as we do. Then they make some bullshit press release pretending this was all a part of the plan
>>724457958>No, SWTOR was saved by the movies.lol no, SWTOR soared back in popularity as soon as it went F2P, many years before the movies began to roll out. It's a shitty game but being delusional about its success will just make you even more retarded. It has the name Star Wars and that's going to be enough to secure it a playerbase, movies not even needed
>>724457657most people play wow on rppve servers anyway
>>724457443Simmer down, cuck
>>724454950GW2 is actually pretty good
>>724458440*at being bad
>>724457531Oh fuck off faggot, before WoW people on mmos were cordial and polite and treated most other people like people. I imagine you came into mmos during WoW and thought Barrens chat was what MMOs were all about?
>>724454950GW2 is pretty shit!
>>724458440Its ok, the overworld content is the only highlight for me.
>>724458551The combat being so brainless compared to 1 ruined it for me. It was fun breaking the game with soldier rune dagger elementalist for a the first month in pvp though.
>>724454545>>724454614>>724454950I don't play MMOs, but it seems like the genre is completely fucked. Most of the populated games are or have 'vanilla' versions of the original versions from the mid 00s. The only popular one that doesn't seem to be floating on nostalgia baiting 30 something year old dads trying to relive their teenaged years appears to be FF14
>>724458502and that's why censorship is okay? Used to be you could leave your door unlocked living in a city too you know
>>724457732Eh, niche video for a niche game so it gets no views.
>>724455652untrueI can see it still going strong until TES6 releases
>>724458663It's not really, but in early mmos the shit you miss was usually shamed. Being a loud retard is celebrated now, so I can understand why you feel the way you do
>>724454614It was actually dead within 2 months
>mfw Starfield creator whines and copes that Starfield died because "Space is boring">meanwhile this thread reminds me that EVE Online, a game that exists to profit off bore and ZZzzzzZzzzz, is still kicking and will probably outlive some countries
>>724456931It really looks like no mmo has tried to tackle this, or any large scale mp game for that matter. You need to force people to interact in these games and then they'll have a good time.The class design also has to be such that more social players can have a greater effect on others. I remember in star wars galaxies, more social people would play the dancer class and people would go to bars to chat with them and get buffs.I often see people say that discord killed mmo communities, but if mmos had interesting things happening in-world people would choose to hang around in game. Issue is most of these mmos have nothing interesting to do with others, so you just solo the game and talk about it with others elsewhere.
>>724458502>before WoW people on mmos were cordial and polite and treated most other people like peopleAre we just rewriting history now? There were tons of absolutely toxic people in games such as Tibia, UO, Lineage, Asheron's Call, Everquest, Dark Age of Camelot, Runescape, EVE, MapleStory, Shadowbane, etc.Hell, the whole reason why WoW became such a hit was because Blizzard decided to hire people like Tigole, who was literally known as a super passionate asshole in Everquest that was constantly blasting shitty players and the shitty developers.
>>724454950is the expansion that released today good?
>>724459612Did you just google a list of mmos? Yes, of course there's always bad eggs, however compared to the horde of retards that WoW brought in, most people in these early mmos were better behaved and chill, treating mmos like a second life rather than a timewaster to shit in. Also, referencing that Warcraft went out of their way to hire an asshole doesn't really help argue against the case that WoW helped propagate the asshole brigade.
>>724459785>Did you just google a list of mmos?No, I played them, except Tibia, UO and Asheron's Call, but heard stories about those.
>>724457682But she had to sell her soul to the mobile gacha devil...
>>724454950I hate them for making GW2, but I respect them for keeping GW1 alive. They even added new quests and items for the 20th anniversary event earlier this year.
>>724459704i like the maps and story so far, but it's really light on features right now. you only get the new homestead if you own the previous expansion too, which is kind of bullshit when it's one of the few features that shipped with this patch. the elite specs and skimmer upgrade are underwhelming.
>>724454950What boggles my mind is that ArenaNet has like +300 employees, but their only product is GW2. We're now 13 years past the GW2 launch and there's apparently still no sign of a GW3 release, other than a loose "we have been working on it since 2022" statement during some financial meeting. It could be another 5 years for all we know.How the fuck does GW2 keep a company of +300 people afloat for what will end up being like +15 years?
>>724460768GW2 whales certainly exist is my guess.
>>724460768I don't understand, is 300 a big or a small number?
>>724460768they are making alot of money from people using the store.
>>724460870300 is a pretty big number of employees for just 1 game. Other studios of similar size would be something like Bethesda, Insomniac and Naughty Dog who have ~400 employees for comparison, and they have to release games every 2-4 years to keep things afloat.
What subscription based MMORPGs are still alive, just WoW and FF14? What about EVE?
>>724461367osrs
>>724461367Ultima online
>>724460090Alternate reality Nao. OG nao is still a an honest PC gam.
>>724461719An honest pc gal* Holy shit I need to go to bed
>>724455652Does it still force you to do the gay light attack animation canceling thing on every skill use?
>>724462071Define forceNothing is forced when playing games
>>724459785Sorry you were born to late to experience early internet.I know it makes you insecure around here.
>>724454950A friend I played PSO:BB with went to work for them. I never personally played it because I got done with MMOs after PSO but I'm happy knowing that friend is making it a success
>>724457897this lmao
>>724462071that's like, one of the only good things about the combatbut sure you can not do it, using your ult only 1/5th of the time vs. an optimized rotation isn't ever going to matter in such a casual game anyway. you can also just hold heavy attack and the game will perfectly buffer weaves between skills for you, effective enough on some weapons like destruction staffs.
>>724456345It is, people just woke up to the realization that you don't need to play a dogshit game with menial chore "gameplay" to get that social interaction on the side.
>>724462416They didn't wake up, they just got trapped by garbage like facebook, twitter, reddit, discord etc instead. Like you do realize we didn't used to have those platforms, but did have MMOs right? The social interaction was the main draw.
>>724462504That's what I said. Other forms of social interaction peeled them away.
it's really surprising new world even lasted this longlaunch week had thousands of chinese bots already automated on every server, i can't imagine that ever changed throughout the yearsabsolute trash fire of a gameyou should be glad it's over
>>724456345no what actually happened is the rest of the online world has vastly increased the level of social interaction so MMOs are no longer unique in that respectalso, many non MMOs now have permanent/long term progression systems, again, something that was unique to MMOsI know this because as a kid I found MMOs through wanting more permanence to my games and started with project entropia and then anarchy onlinesteam overlay is basically all of that in any game you'd like
>>724454545>literally full stop>game will be available through 2026 (but not 2027 and longer)anything published by Amazon is a pile of worthless trash and I hope they never will be part of any game studio ever againit was nothing but a cashgrab after all
>>724462209>Ragnarok>FFXI>WoW>Mabinogi>Ultima>EQ2Zoomers will never ever know how amazing things were back in day. The closest thing to old MMOs is X lel
>>724454545>games you've played ff xiv>filtered game tags: MMOgood job retard
>>724457280After debating trying a wow private server I remembered it exists and jumped in. It's great for a wow skinned star wars clone, easily the best mmo storytelling (because the standards are that low and most dont immerse you with fully voiced dialog including your toon)
>>724457897Maldavius Figtree
>>724454545ouch
How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2025?
>>724454693ags is completely shutting down and firing all of the US staff, only the small foreign studios will still be around, which are planned to use AI to make games, like that AI ace attorney snoop dog game that released.throne and liberty is going to get its upcoming major update and then get shitcanned or sold. Lost ark will have the same happen, but I assume smilegate will just run it themselves since they have already had a similar situation happen before and did that.
>>724458551>the 80% of the game is the only highlight for mesounds good
>>724467058AGS is only the publisher for T&L, developers are NetEase. It's likely T&L is more independent, and financially viable.
>>724459490jokes on you, starfield is so shit of a game it fails to appeal both to casuals and turboautists. Fails to appeal to casuals because its overall fucking sucks, and fails to appeal to turboautist because it lacks any meaningful depth to itEVE has the latter, making its unironically better
>>724467058>that AI ace attorney snoop dog game that releasedI'm sorry what ?
>>724467306
>>724456931Dofus does a pretty good job of this but its 50/50a lot of pve just requires a guy and it isn't really that difficult as long at least some of the people have a clue what they are doing and you don't get like basically the worst distribution of classes for a certain dungeon.but a lot of the people is very cooperative and about individuals and their playstyles, especially alliance content.even at a casual level you setup your percs to harvest for your offline, other players can attack them, and anyone from your alliance can join the fight, so you have this incentive to defend other guys percs in your alliance so that they are willing to defend yours. You only have 1min to join the fight (can join from anywhere in the game, but can't already be in a fight or dungeon etc) so you often get a spread of people from your alliance who you need to fight together with and quickly come up with a strategy based on what you are fighting, so you get to meet and work with a lot of different people and learn about them.So when it comes to other alliance content, such as putting together a group to hunt percs for money, or doing territory control alliance v alliance stuff, you already know people in your alliance and have fought with them, you know who you work well with and not and can make teams based on that.its strange because you can join a guild and an alliance completely separately (basically pve and pvp organizations), they used to be the same thing but guilds now do a very poor job of actually getting players to play together and work together, but alliances do a really good job of helping you meet other players who want to do your type of content and get to know each other for the other content that is related that requires more planned teams.I think a lot of mmos lack content that encourages meeting other players over and over in smaller communities so you can build an actual community to do the group stuff they want you to do.
>>724467332>they're still making atmosfear clonesholy shit lolthat's kinda funny
>>724467332Why do people even like this guy?
>>724467435his persona to white people is basically a funny house nigger that does weed, so it's unthreatening and exotic.
>>724466967I'm sure the 10 people playing it are very thrilled
>>724458658>MMO>genrethats like saying gacha is a genre when they're both method of service
>>724467332Many billions of dollars and this will be the only thing left. Worse than their phone with like 15 cameras or whatever the fuck.
>>724467435He's le funny pothead who also does music
>>724466967the only thing and I mean the ONLY thing that makes dofus and games like OSR worth playing is their economy of every item being tradeable that makes the game feel alive and like your investment in it matters. Bind on loot / soulbound is the death knell of any mmo, the second you put that in your game you're just a shitty wow clone.
>>724456484The only reason why MMOs are failing is because the retards making them never understood what actually made them good in the first place, so they try to one-up themselves constantly by blowing their budget every single update/release until they bankrupt themselves or their publisher(s) since what they produces never brings in enough players to sustain it.If everyone decided to ape GW1, Runescape or even Everquest instead of WoW then I think the genre would be in a much better shape than it is currently.
>>724467197yeah I know AGS is the publisher for T&L, they are also just the publisher for lost ark.but from what I know about netease when they lost a western publisher the western version of the game just closed, quite a few asian companies do that and looking at neteases record I don't see them doing the western side themselves.The only western game they have published is naraka, which they aren't even the developers of, and its only published by their montreal branch which doesn't publish anything else.they have done naraka, so they could use that experience and whatever they have built up to publish T&L themselves, but honestly with how it has turned out and the shit job they do of it, I wouldn't hold my breath.If T&L doesn't find a new publisher and get sold, there is a very good chance the western version shuts down.Smilegate is very different, they have not only published the western version of some of their games, but even taken over when the companies that were publishing them went down. So I would expect lost ark, as long its not doing awfully in the west, to just get taken over by smilegate, but T&L is less certain.
>>724466967>wakfu neo season servers release in 2 weeksI guess ags didn't want that heat and ran away
>>724454545>"Heheh oops, this ain't profitable anymore so thanks for the money schmucks, we'll shut down the server in a year :^)">Time passes>Money stolenIt do be like that.
a sub model for $5 a month a 30k players would keep this game alive indefinitelyfuck Amazon
>>724460768They've been working on GW3 for a while they're just taking their time with it.
>>724454545jeff still hasn't recovered from that lotr flop
Reminder this is only happening because Amazon is firing 48k people because of muh AI. A mmo with 40k+ players is still fine and only retards would say that’s bad
another good reason to never buy a game
>>724468581>A mmo with 40k+ players is still fine and only retards would say that’s badIt's only good if they are paying a sub which new world doesn't have.
>>724468581MMOs don't even need that many players to still make tons of money
>>724468806servers dont cost money
>>724468907>servers dont cost money
>>724454614And the end the wow killer was wow, ironic.
>>724468581>40k players You are stupid as fuck if you believe this
>>724468971>he wasn't around 2007 or somthing for that guild wars dev saying something like thatdont worry anonenjoy your life you have many years ahead
>>724461367WoW, XIV, technically Runescapeeverything else is either miles of cash shop or "F2P" (game is free but miserable to play without paying a sub)
>>724469051You got any proof of or something?
>>724454545laughing my ass off at my stupid cunt old guild master who decided we'd go to this game, i quit within the first 6 months of release because its dogshitget fucked you stupid cunt
Dofus won.
>>724466967>>724469809which one of u is the doofus tier list schizo
>>724460870its beyond what can be managed any company that goes beyond 200 takes productivity lossesspecially if they hire 1500 indians to make fallout 76
>>724460768>How the fuck does GW2 keep a company of +300 people afloat for what will end up being like +15 years?its this >>724460918ESO is in the same boat. They also focus predominately on open world shit and events, which retains casual players. The try hard MMOs (like WoW) did not make the transition in time. The playerbase for MMOs got older and got jobs, so less raiding and such.
>>724469047>wow is still not deadbro?
Is there any videos of what the gameplay was? Don't think I ever saw any proper marketing for this
>>724459542>You need to force people to interact in these games and then they'll have a good time.You really have no fucking clue. The population that wants to engage in content that forces interaction beyond the most shallow level (just being in proximity to each other) is vanishingly smalll anymore, and is usually confined to pre existing friend groups. GW2 for example is known for its open world map meta events, which are casual raids with simple mechanics with scores of players per map, that all you have to do is show up and start fighting. No one interacts during this other than a purely soocial level. The population of MMO players that treat the game as some form of personal accomplishment (the millenials) grew up or out of that when they got kicked out of moms basement and got jobs.
>>724454950I thought it was announced GW2 was ending new content?
>>724460768>We're now 13 years past the GW2 launch and there's apparently still no sign of a GW3 releaseYes I too wonder why the company with a functional, still played, popular MMO (one of VERY few) hasn't decided to just arbitrarily murder it by making a sequel that kills everyone's time investment in GW2 and supersedes, thus reseting everyone to 0 and having reason to continue on, causing everyone to just move on forever.
>>724454545Why do people play mmos? They are lameAlso wow is one of the reasons why bido games are shit now
>>724471371>Don't think I ever saw any proper marketing for thisBecause it was made by Amazon, who sucked at it. It was a big flash in the pan when it was released, and was a highly anticipated title, but it fizzled really quick. It did not help that the setting (alternate universe 17th century Earth but the Americas is a magic cursed Atlantis) was awkward. The PVP crowd left quick, and it basically ended any real development shortly after launch.
>>724454545>Comes out during a GPU shortage>Bricks ppls GPUsIt was dead or arrival
>>724471648they literally just released their newest expansion yesterday.
>>724456345i blame a lot of modern accessibility laws that do everything to prevent communication by players in-game which is the antithesis to an mmo
>>724454614That's because damn near every MMO that releases is a sandbox meme, which actually just means it launches with fuck all content and players are told "lol it's a sandbox make your own adventures lol" and it dies after the "NEW THING" hype dies down.Sandboxfags will NEVER learn, they're a loud, small minority
>>724457028>Boosts character, thereby skipping the long leveling process which slowly introduces skills and abilities over time to help you learn how to play>Shocked he doesn't understand what to doI'm surrounded by idiots.
>>724471765this. The MMOs that have survived have established and invested playerbases, and are made by companies that realize/have seen that keeping such alive is a far better bet business wise, than trying to make the new thing that may not pan out. MMOs thatsurvive provide consistent revenue, which is the holy grail of business. GW3, when it happens, will be even more tied to GW2 that GW1 was to 2. It will probably be like a PSO2 to PSO:NGS situation, where cosmetics will transfer over, keeping player investment intact.
>>724460494Only been to the first map so far, but Troubadour (playing a power boon open world build that gives out quickness) seems like a fun spec, as does the ranger "we made bearbow for real this time" spec, but I haven't had a chance to test it out much yet. Gonna play Amalgam at some point too. The story so far is nice, and the meta event with the norn twins was fun. We'll see how well it lasts, but so far it's a nice and comfy expansion.
>>724456668It was too late. The last update was indeed the best the game has ever been since launch, it was a hail mary of a patch but it was simply 3 years too late.
>>724456345I think its because in the back of your head, you know the game and all your effort is going to shutdown. People will give all kinds of reasons, but in reality no one wants to sink time into a lost cause.Old MMOs had player trust and a belief that the games would always be around because why not? Game shutdowns werent really a thing then, but the moment failed WoW-Killers and korean mmo ports started getting shutdown left and right, no MMO could be trusted anymore. And subconsciously, people want to avoid going through the unpleasant feeling of signing up for a work simulator just to get fucked by EOS.
>>724472290You realize that NGS is a complete flop and completely killed their cash cow that was PSO2, right? The fact that everything transferred meant that NGS was a full on replacement of PSO2 instead of an addition to it. But because the new game sucked ass most people just quit playing both all together.It's much safer to keep them separated so that you can profit from the different audiences each game attract.
>>724471953Imagine having a brand new, super expensive 3090 at a time when supply is so dead even RMAs have long waiting times and then you launch this game and your shit explodes. I'd be apoplectic, I remember at one point ASUS had a 6 month wait time on RMAs for 3080 and 3090 SKUs, you'd be without a GPU or back to your old shitty one for half a fucking year because of New World
>believing bezos slop MMoDESERVEDI will keep playing Runeacape
>>724472423>You realize that NGS is a complete flop and completely killed their cash cow that was PSO2, right? Yes, but not because they honored the investment made in cosmetics, its because the actual game sucks. If they had not done the cosmetic transfer, NGS would be dead already.
>>724471807Spontaneous social interaction Coop PvEFucking around in global chatPvP (though niche most of the time)Auction House trading
Bros...I'm gonna trust Sean one more timeHe fixed NMS right....?He's not gonna repeat same mistakes with LnF
>>724471953QRD on GPU-bricking?
>>724472947>saarfield pitchit's over before it even started
>>724471807as an introvert I also don't get the appeal. I tried many of them but I always end up solofagging pretending to be Kirito
>>724454545if an MMO is not tab targetting it sucks and is DoA
Last MMOs I was excited for were the World of Darkness MMO and Everquest Next, both of which got canceled. Until then MMOs were synonymous with the future of gaming.I just want a fucking new immersive MMO that takes itself seriously and I can play and roleplay in like it's a second life. Something that has world PVP so the world feels dangerous, and actually is going to give me experiences outside of a tiny drip of dopamine reward for 2 weeks of grind.If Star Citizen fails, which is looking likely, then imo the whole concept of immersive online gaming is dead to me. Guess I'll have to go outside then.
>An amazing game that finally got footing and headwind only to be shutdown because Amazon wants more AI>no seriously that's the reason from Amazon for the the mass layoffs that shuttered the studio>Don't buy it it'll be shutdown in 8 months
PSO2 is shutting down next the game is dead as fuck and is just recycling stuff for years now. They haven't left the tutorial starter city.
>>724454545Oh no, who didn't see this coming!?
>>724454545There only exist four kinds of MMO:>FOMO P2W>troon simulators>archaic, cryptic, ancient>pservers>>724456478Just so you know: there exist private servers for CoH/CoV.
>>724455652ESO should've died a long time ago
>>724473196>immersive online gamingWe are like two years away from AI to easily be able to completely make fresh new random maps every game. World of Warcrafts expansion (after midnight) will sell random generated dungeons, delves, and battlegrounds and it will be the expansions feature. Games like Arc Raiders and Escape from Tarkov will have random AI generated maps every new game. Battlefield 7 will have new random AI generated maps every new game, Call of Duty, ect, ect.
>>724458658FF14 is pure nostalgiabait as well, just of a different type
>>724473486If we're going that far, I still want human crafted worlds and architecture for the most part. I wouldn't mind if dungeons and labyrinths were endless through AI generation.Even so, that probably won't help keep an ambitious game from just shutting down in 3 years. There needs to be a technology that can federate the server load with integrity, but also some way for players to have their data/stats/items be on a distributed database too so that you don't have to trust some shit company with the life of your character.
What the games be doing for no offline mode to be warranted from the getgo... it just be walking around areas and fetching quests and collecting shit. Make it all local bruv.
>another MMO slop bites the dustKek until devs figure out that people don't give a fuck about the most basic interactions that was a novel concept 2 decades ago they will continue to diePeople say that discord killed mmos, but actually if your game gets mogged by fucking discord of all things, then maybe your game is just trash
>>724455652ESO died the moment they went to a seasonal model
>>724473116I played gw 2 when it came out (before living world season 1) and was the last dude out of a guild (the rest decided to play dayz mod) Last thing I did in this game was running around the pirate shanty town in the middle of the map listening to emo songs from the repertoire of O. Osbourne o algo his last name is written
>>724457531ThisCensorship ruin everything
>>724454614I thought this game was a Soulslike, not an MMO
>>724472173Laws? I thought games censored people for social justice good boy points. There are laws now that you can't shittalk each other?
>it died because it wasn't a real MMOyou average normie doesn't want to play a real MMOashes of creation is what new world should have been, but they were too scared
>>724467197>>724467752T&L is NCSoft/FirstSpark Games
>>724474905>Still believes in the ashes of scammery It will surely come out in tem years and revive the MMO gente for sure!Just like how scam citizen will come out
>>724456345They don't work because devs don't pick an audience and develop 90% of the game for them. You have 5 kids 2 jobs dads whining in one ear that want one type of very causal mmo and thats fine, but then you also have poopsocking faggots screeching in the devs other ear and demanding 18 hr raids and open world pvp. Both games can exist, but you gotta pick a side when you have a vision for your game. Despite what false dichotomy doomers say, there is also a middle ground for players who are more involved than casual gamer dads but less autistic than spergs, so trying to have modest commital mmo would also work as well
Why doesn't anyone just copy WoW's movement, combat system and tab targeting?It's the golden core that has kept WoW alive for all these years, bonus points for a big fantasy world and races, just having playable humans in realistic forests is dull and shit
>>724456345>>724456931these
>>724461367The best MMORPG around - OSRS
>>724455652>>eso sadly is the last best mmo>Game locked you out of content by turning that content into DLC, so if you are a khajit who started in elswhyre the game fucks you over>not enough XP is awarded from any of the quest not even the mainline as well as shit weapons forcing fags to farm between two high level bosses in regions in order to have a chance at xp unless you spend money>People farm quests making them impossible to complete>Combat feels so shitty and airy and happen so fast that you wonder if you are playing a video game>ads everywhere for dlc>getting into dungeons is such a slow horrible networking piece of shit that fags would go tank even if they aren't one because it gets you into a group faster causing fags who takes this dogshit seriously to lose their shit because their obviously not tank build player is not "taking all the damage" and they get reported Dogshit fucking game by Zenimax. With a hint of retarded WOW wannebe-ness
https://youtu.be/ey0wgQYTwnU?si=zQlsLDARU0TPWiQNhttps://youtu.be/oqkLfJRaRv8?si=FJMh9_H4rX4TNB0V
>>724475794wait they own arenanet?why the fuck did they get amazon to publish it instead of arenanet?
>>724457682Still have a long way to go kiddo
Mop classic shit the bed and now new world shits the bed. Do I have to play these other shitty mmos now
>>724477519>meanwhile on twitch
>>724454545This fell afoul of forces much greater than it is. I don't think player base really factored much into it.
>>724471242bro its dead af
>>724454545This shit was so forced on Twitch and Pluto TV and it's fucking dead lol
OSRS still on top
>>724458502Seriously? Don't know about others but Ultima Online was literally "make life hell for others" the game. You could literally trap people and make them your slaves, you could block graveyard and kill them endlessly and they had no way of leaving.If anything, WOW attempted to limit the bullshit.
>>724454950I haven't played gw2 since the sand expansionis it ____fun____ ?
>>724455707I remember lore books still not being fully displayed in the game, the cheevo to collect them all didn't fucking work. Can't imagine if anyone got 200 standing in anything so far, getting 10 of them is retarded.
>>724476437>copy WoW's systems exactly>mazed WoW players doesn't switch because it's not actually the game they care about, it's their lost childhood they wantThat's why. The actual quality of WoW is fucking garbage, and always has been.
>>724455652ESO is unironically the worst MMO I have ever played.>Levelling goes backwards. Every level you get weaker as the world scales around you.>Zero group content. optional dungeons (Nobody does it)>Game is just straight up ugly.>Cash shop and "DLC" out the asshole. >Combat is painfully boring.>No classes>No trinity because there's no group content.>Painfully boring storyline that just exists to keep mediocre writers busy.
>>724479073>>Zero group content. optional dungeons (Nobody does it)They do do it it just that networking is so slow and dogshit that it forces you to go tank option in order to get into a game faster. I did tank for my not tank High elf and some fag lost his shit that I wasn't taking tank damage lol. I told him to take his meds and got kicked. People were actually taking this retarded broken shit seriouslyAlso add that you can't even start quest because you have faggots who farm the shit out of them preventing you from completing them as well.
>>724476078I played on my friends account, I'm not paying 100 bucks to QA for themit's just a better game than new world
>>724454545That's a shame do I feel like new world had some potential. I played it during release month and enjoyed it, felt like RuneScape desu
>>724454545>make the most generic looking, uninspired normie slop MMO>wonder why it bombsDoesnt help that MMOs are a dying genre anyway. No one has the attentionspan anymore to grind trickle fed PVE content for weeks until it gets powercrept by new stuff. Pretty sure FFXIV wouldnt be nearly as popular if it hadnt a story thats actually good. Seeing how Dawntrail absolutely destroyed the game proves it. No all thats left for fans is the boring ass MMO """""gameplay""""" formula.
>>724454545>>724454614>>724454950>>724460768micro(read: undead)MMOs can survive off the backs of a single-digit number of whales pumping money into it, so GW2 still being alive isn't that big of a stretch.
>>724479073The only way to enjoy group content in ESO is to befriend people who aren't total retards. Dungeon and trial trifectas are fun when you have people who know what they're doing. I got godslayer and noped the fuck out of the game though.
>>724454545>FFXIV, 1343 hrs on record.Pot calling the kettle
>>724460768>no sign of a GW3 releasethere's plenty of signs of something being developed in the background: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w5QRPDkD51K2vuI56mbflkfCFP67Nwt6vRRcunOME54it's an MMO and in an "established fantasy IP", so like 90% chance it's a new Guild Wars game, but who knownsI bet New World getting nuked is gonna rattle both ANet and NCsoft though
>>724481514Except that's wrong, most MMOs fail because of lack of content, not because people don't want to grind. Games like OSRS prove that plenty of people are autistic enough to grind shit for hours upon hours. A big part to why OSRS is so successful currently is because they have very frequent updates to keep the game fresh with new content, and the way they structure these updates allows for both the heavy grinders and more casual players to still enjoy the updates.Dawntrail is flopping not just because the story is bad, but also because the update schedule is horrendous due to SE fucking over the games budget. Players have large droughts of just no content at all so people just cancel their sub instead.
I use my power and influence to help kill New World. Go on twitter and look at all the simp Amazon cuck toe suckers feeling bad and sad about the death of this "game" then look at real people who have an actual soul who don't bend the knee to corpo losers. Pic fucking related. FUCK New World.
i got banned twice the first month of release because retard fuck amazon indian customer support reps don’t know how australians talk to each other by constantly bantering
>>724482710Same.
>>724458658>The only popular one that doesn't seem to be floating on nostalgia baiting 30 something year old dads trying to relive their teenaged years appears to be FF14Instead it baits them into reliving a fantasy of their teenage years in which they were a cute girl instead of a fat nerd
>>724483069No one has fallen for the "disingenuous annoying fag" act in a decade m8, you were banned for being an irritating sperg
why the fuck would you want the same people thats working on gw2 right now to make gw3?are you some kinda of masochist?
>>724454545i remember they offered this game for free months before release and i never bothered to get it but did kind of want to try it eventually, then they put a price tag on itfuck them lol
>>724482710not an aussie game, learn to assimilate with the host culture or fuck offliterally as bad as the indians and muslims who move to white countries and don't bother trying to fit in
>>724483069insane how unfunny you are desu
