The best vtm game that isn’t vtmb1, too bad it’s vr only so few have played it. Anyone played it?
I claim this thread for Clan Lasombra
>vtm dishonored>stuck on vrWhy?
>>724495591If they wanted to have more players, they could have made it a normal retroactively like that one Aliens VR game recently
>>724495591>vr onlywhy
>>724495837I don’t know why they don’t. This one is actually pretty good
>>724495770VR company, ironic that they have better taste than the ones hired to make AAA games for Paradox
>>724495790>gay>muslim>vampire>furry>socialistHow many debuffs can one man stack
Tremere are the best clan by far and it's not even close. Thaumaturgy is the ur discipline, their backstory is the best, they have no real clan curse, they have the most and best organized clan that actually cares for and helps one another instead of gay Ventrue shit, three other clans tried to take them on when they were at their weakest and all three got BTFO and Tremere only got stronger. Tremere are the White men of kindred.
>feed Verona to Lou because I can't be assed waiting for the game to spawn the correct type of NPCYep now this is vidya gaming
>>724495693>Imagine being an e-girl embraced into the clan Lasombra.
>>724495881See>>724495943they’re a vr company, and they’re solid, they also made a wraith vr game that is good
>>724496123*explodes ur pyramid*
>>724496123You worship a giant slug.
>>724496206>wraith vr gamesounds cool toomakes me want to get vr someday
>>724496206Hope they make more WoD IP, they have a much better sense of setting interpretation than others. Hopefully this means we'll finally get a mage game for once
>>724496123>they have no real clan curse>look it up>The original Tremere clan weakness consists of an initiation, which requires all neonates to drink from the blood of the seven elders of the clan when they are created. This means that all Tremere are at least one step toward being Blood Bound to the clan, and therefore must watch their step very carefully when around their leadersThe fuck? When would that ever become relevant when you're playing a tabletop?
>>724496150seems rather common now for Lasombra.Guess it's their equivalent of Siring Cleopatra for the Nosferatu
>>724495591Wait, so this is actually good? I kind of want to pick up a new VR game
>>724496247>exactly as planned.No, seriously it was a Tremere inside job.
>>724496298It's a Horror game but the way it adapts the setting is pretty stellar. There's quite a good twist to it
>>724496356to be fair this was probably a retcon
>>724496326It often wouldn't, you'd have to design the story around the Tremere in some way and try to create a situation where your best interest and the clans lie apart.
>>724496343Yes, it’s not perfect but it’s probably the closest game to dishonored, gets the setting pretty damn well, and uses vr really well. I’d say an 8-9/10
>>724496326It would matter if the GM used it as a tool to real more rebellious players in or used it to coerce a PC to do something the player might not want to, but it's entirely dependent on RP rather than mechanics
>>724496326when the ST handles it well?
>>724496356It was the technocracy, who is behind the SI. They knew about the Tremere from their time as a mage house and from the relatively recent war they fought with mages in the 90s, and hit them first as the bigger risk to consensus among the vampires.
>>724496326
I don't understand what's going on with GideonWhy does being staked 200 meters below the city give you mind control powers
>>724496326It depends on how much of an asshole your ST is. It can be a complete nothingburger, or it can be crippling to your RP. Beause just so you know, your superiors can literally show up at any time via arcane projection to ruin your day and start ordering you around when you REALLY don't have time for this shit.
>>724496310It’d be nice to get that or a werewolf vr game
>wanted to make a balance patch for vanilla vtmb>actual vanilla vtmb is still kind of buggy and every fan patch adds custom content>make my own bug fix patch and build my balance patch on top of that>people have already asked me for my balance patchshould i distribute the vanilla bug fix patch separately too? does anyone have interest in that? or should i just distribute it combined?
>>724496504>>724496479Video game only secondaries cant comprehend the role of a ST/GM/DM
>>724496326V20's curse was that you gain 2 steps every time you drink a vampire's blood. Yeah it's pretty dogshit but at some point it's up to the ST to figure out a way to make it relevant. Say, if the Tremere wanted to advance his understanding of blood magic or the arcane he wouldn't be able to do it independent Disciplines aren't free most of the time
>>724496529>harder to make blood bondsHow the fuck does that matter?Like if you want to make a ghoul you just let him drink another time
>>724496549He's a powerful Malkavian, being staked just made him angry and eventually more insane. He can't control minds, but he can read them, project into them, etc. He was using dementation on Lou.
>>724496298It’s pretty unique and does actually have combat, doesn’t feel like many other horror games and frankly it was cool they managed to make wraith into a game
I checked the Steam reviews but it says its horribly optimized for PCVR, should I get it on the Quest store instead?
>>724496549He's a Malkavian, anon.He's just spamming Dementation all over the city. He's still conscious, just paralyzed.
>>724496668Blood bonds don't create ghouls also it's obvious you've never roleplayed in a TTRPG before
>>724496343Yes, very good, OP isn’t exaggerating it’s the best one that isn’t vtmb. It’s just only vr so not for everyone
>>724496573>Werewolf VRThat'd be so kino but I can't imagine it would work well unless it's a boneworks/sword and sorcery clone with how combat heavy werewolf is.Maybe a werewolf game where you play as a victim instead like a Kinfolk or a hunter in over his head. I can't see WtA being adapted too well to VR
>>724496247*it has no effect*
>>724496669If Malks can just use dementation on random vampires from the other side other city, they just win the setting
>>724496626tbf most GMs in most systems are kinda bad, or you get odd interpersonal issues like that one anon talking about how the storyteller wanted to fuck a gir,l so basically let her get away with murder in their sessions
>>724496668Tremere basically can't enslave other vampires anymore so overall that means elders and ancillae have less insurance towards neonates backstabbingie>jews are going to get even jewier
>>724496804Not all of them. But we don't really know how strong/old Gideon is. Obviously old and strong enough to do that. High-gen young kindred aren't that impressive, but low-gen old kindred are able to do a lot of crazy stuff.
>>724496385>>724496673seems like a great use of vr, it would really fit wraithmight look into vr eventually, i've been avoiding it because of the price and being afraid it would cause eye issues
>Fabien lectures me how I shouldn't have killed Mother HenNIGGER WHO THE FUCK EMBRACES A HUNTER
>>724496710If you have quest 3 i’d recommend on that, i had no issues
>>724496828This is why it's best to just play with bros
>>724496123They're second fiddle to lasombrino
>>724496869>Tremere basically can't enslave other vampires anymoreThey can, Carna found a way. Enemies of the Tremere will find themselves chained to a bed, passed between the witches of House Carna and used as a sex slave for all eternity.
>>724497079And they tried to say V5 is woke
What are boss battles in the tabletop usually? Just old vamps?
>>724496782Gorn of all things may not be a bad choice to emulate cause i want to feel like a savage beast
>>724497079I hate V5 so much
Hey, about those super cringe self-insert vampire romance novels that women love do those exist for men too?
>>724496898Yeah wraith isn’t perfect but that and vtm justice are still both really good games that get the setting right. Wraith doesn’t really play like much else beyond being survival horror while vtm justice is similar to dishonored
>>724497141Whatever your ST wants it to be. Vtm is also not combat heavy so physical boss "fights" usually aren't too common
>>724497170On AO3
>>724497170i thought this was kind of like that after watching it. people only talk about it being like a movie with the sabbat but it also has that.
>>724496894As per Dementation rules, that work similarly to Domination, we can assume that Gideon was lower generation than Lou, because Dementation worked on her in the first place. IIRC, higher gens cannot Dominate/Dementate lower gens. And Lou really wasn't anything all that special. She was a VERY young vampire that somehow clawed her way to the cushy Prince position. She's actually younger than LaCroix.
>>724497143That'd be a good one
>>724497170They do. Look out for Logan Jacobs or Eric Vall.
>>724497321>we can assume that Gideon was lower generation than LouWhich makes sense, otherwise she'd have dominated him into forgetting like she did Fabien
>>724497079>hard coded mysogyny of the Tremere.*angry Aisling Sturbridge noises*IIRC, Beckett's Jyhad Diary (a V20 thing) flat out states that Carna is just fucking retarded.
>>724497321Then why is Fabian so weak?
>>724497490Relatively young
>>724497579He's older than Campbell and Campbell has dominated him multiple times
>>724497490Fabian was embraced in the 1920s he's still a young vampire
>>724496598What's your distribution method? You could always just have multiple options, clearly labelled
>>724497451also Meerlinda erasuresometimes I think V5 nerfed the Tremere because they just wanted to turn them into hot witch support characters
>>724497451V5 mostly ignores BJD.
>>724497490low gen doesn't intrinsically mean you're a gigachad Vamp, your character in vtmb starts off 8th Gen and is pretty weak himself until later in the game. Also, Gideon may have just been a retarded Sire seeing as how he just confronted Lou who he knew was a crazy backstabbing bitch in the first place
>>724497079oh no
>>724497712I FUCKING NOTICED
>>724497310Near darks ending was such a cop out desu. If it was vtm it would’ve been way more melancholic
>>724497293Any recs?>>724497310Will check out.>>724497350Are they passable to read?
>>724497716You're 10th Gen in vtmb1
>>724497079>she pushes as hard as possible for a modernization and feminization of Clan TremereBut why?
>>724496123I’m not white…
>>724495591>The best vtm game that isn’t vtmb1yes, it's picrel
Any cool mods for Bloodlines, other than the unofficial patch?
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remind me to read salems lot some time
>>724496135I did the same because she's a braindead doll who is a potential masquerade breach. It's weird that they set up this "choice" as if it's the bad one. How is dragging a random mortal off the street and subjecting them to this life a worse decision than taking someone who is already broken and handing her off to a new master?
>>724497863it's hot
>>724498008Redemption is ass and nobody wants generic medieval vampire shit, may as well do d&d
>>724498008Tried playing it a while back. It was incredible how bad the camera was. Kino game tho. Christoff was based. Anezka a hoe.
>>724497863She's a realistically written woman who sees this as good and necessary for no reason. You could also say it's a power thing, moving things in that direction would put her higher up.
>>724497863>nooo we can't have a clan of (male and female) obsessive introverted nerds, we need to make them into useless boring male nerds and modern sexy witch girlst.V5 writers probably
>>724498038Wasn't this written by someone from here?
>>724497919then take your stinky ravnos ass to another domain>>724498152it was unironically written by one of the BG3 writers, Baudelaire Welch
Why does TCR hate gameplay so much?
>>724498008My first VtM game and it's what made me love the universe. Yeah it's janky but it had soul.
>>724498037clan quest mod. the actual clan quests are kind of meh but it adds an entire sabbat hub and questline to finish the game with.
>>724497835>Are they passable to read?I pirated few audiobooks and enjoyed them for what they bring. It's basically porn with some plot. Nobody does such high fantasy porn, at best you have a chick with a body paint and some cheap prosthetic wings or something. And here you can have dragongirls, catrigls, mermaids, harpies, elves, vampires...Also keep in mind that those authors I posted before probably aren't real people. With the amount of novels they're shitting out it has to be a group of ghostwriters writing under one pen name. And no, when they started coming out AI wasn't at that level to write stuff like that, so that's not AI.
>>724498230>it was unironically written by one of the BG3 writers, Baudelaire WelchNo way.
I think I can convince the dnd group I DM for to try Vtm but as much as I would like to run WtA too I dont think they'll go for that
>>724497863Because current year I guess.V5 just conveniently forgot that the Tremere sigature character is Aisling, one of the most competent and recognized vampires in the whole setting. The Tremere literally begged her to become a Prince of New York after she singlehandedly staved off the Sabbat invasion.And then V5 happily claims that the Tremere are mysognistic assholes. Sure, why not. It's not like a lot of recognized Regents in the clan are fucking women.
>>724498293I mean it's their thing. I blame Paradox for letting walking simulator devs make it.
Hello and a happy TVD to you too!
>>724497649i was probably just going to upload the zipped folders to moddb
>>724498385vampire or hunter would be the easiest to convince noobs into i think.
>>724498390that logic was always dumb as fuck>t-they should be mysoginists because they are academics and academia at the time was male dominatedseriously? but all the clans that are older and embraced from political/military/religious leaders that were basically all male for millenia don't have this problem?
What are some non-vampire games like VTMB
Imagine how shocked Phyre was to wake up after a century or more and see a modern American city with all that diversity
>>724497079All of the sample characters in the V5 core book were AWFUL. Sample NPCs in newer books are much better
>>724498808Deus Ex
>>724498808deus ex
>>724498816Phyre is from Anatolia which was diverse even in ancient history
>>724498808doos ex
>>724498385Speaking from experience, it's actually very easy to get normies into Vampire. The character creation (V20/Revised at least) is actually very easy and intuitive and takes up just a few minutes. And you don't have to explain anything to them. Just tell them they are a newly embraced vampires and let them figure shit out on their own. You can even pick the clans for them to streamline the game a bit.Those were one of my best campaigns, when a bunch of newbie players were trying to figure out what the fuck is even going on, while my buddy who was in the know was having a time of his life trying to subtly guide them.
>>724498917Where is that info from anyway? Pre-release interviews?IIRC the shit ingame says he was shipped from Damascus, Syria
>>724498951I didn't say I thought it would be hard to get people into vampire i said it would be hard to get them into werewolf
remind me to watch this
>>724498385VtM is just the easiest, you can try and see if they find werewolves interesting too and pitch a new chronicle later
>>724499031nta but there are bunch of dialogue options about Constantinopole
Come to think of it, we don't get enough cool movies about werewolves.This is a subtle hint for the rest of the anons to recommend some fun werewolf movies.
>>724499070>h-hey guys what about werewo->HAHA ANON IS A FURRY HAHAHAHA
I'm gonna use this as the basis for my chronicle
>>724499149There are ones about being a mediterranean pirate and Napoleon and Venice, tooAlso Constantinople isn't in Anatolia btw
>>724499052how I dont even know you retard
>>724498808depending on what you mean exactly:earthbounddevil may cry 1american mcgee's alicesilent hill 1
>>724499225
>>724498917She's from Austria, she was just IN Anatolia, she's a nomad
>>724499162Dog Soldiers scared the shit out of me when I was a kidhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHstANEb9p0
Where is the "ok sure, fuck the anarchs" option?
>>724499367yeah the railroading is ridiculous
>>724499367>no>no>no?Love it.
>>724499416At least asking Ryong to reconsider made her love me but I highly doubt any seks is on the table at this point
Any other good VtM actual plays on twitch or youtube? I've seen some of the By Nights and Mathas' stuff.
>>724499367To be fair, starting a war when you're already dealing with several crises is an objectively retarded decision but yeah fuck the anarchs too bad you can't kill Katsumi regardless. Not even max. Fuck that retarded "kid"
>>724499520Like people recording their chronicles?
>>724499367It's "Ryong, please reconsider" because Ryong is the one who is arguing against it.>>724499416wrong
>>724499531Bitch please I'm an elder. When the mark comes off, I don't care how many retarded thinbloods fight each other
>>724499565Yeah, they're nice to watch when the ST and players are good.
>>724499617Shut the fuck up shill
>>724499756You're a fucking retard. They could barely even afford marketing, they're not going to pay for shills on 4chan. Go cry about everything somewhere else, or better yet, play a fucking video game
>>724499620I am still salty that the Bloodlines 2 chickens out when it comes to making you *feel* like an elder.Seriously games like New Vegas, Tyranny and Rogue Trader actually lets you play as a kingmaker with geniune power and clout that makes people shit themselves upon seeing you. So it's not that hard.But they decided to make Phyre some bitch errand boy, because that's easier for their story.
>>724499162uhhan american werewolf in londondog soldiersginger snaps 1 + 2wolf 1994the howling silver bullet bad moonlate phasesboth the 1941 and 2010 wolf man movies are fun, but the 2010 one is honestly pretty meh (i still liked it)a lot of werewolf movies are also just kinda jank with low ratings but idk they're still fun
>>724499620>I'm an elder>runs around doing fetch quests and gets beaten by random ghouls with baseball bats
>>724499920>They could barely even afford marketing, they're not going to pay for shills on 4chan.lole. Paradox loves shilling here.
>>724499958>actually lets you play as a kingmaker>didn't mention KingmakerDid you do this just to trigger my autism
>>724500000Checked.Is the 2010 one the one with Benicio Del Toro and Anthony Hopkins? I've seen it. It was... fine.
>>724499620I feel like people overestimate how strong Phyre is. He's no slouch but he's not some crazy Methuselah either. Besides, a vampire's greatest strength is his network. The real bigshots are playing 3D chess with generations of childer, all sorts of allies and retainers, and the buttload of boons and other assorted favors, oaths, and whatnot they have accumulated over the centuries. Phyre doesn't seem to have that. He's a maverick with a knack for survival and adaptability, yes, he packs a punch, but no he's not someone you'd need nukes and space lasers to destroy.Phyre himself can tangle with anyone we see in the story but chaos represents a real danger. No one wants a masquerade breach of massive proportions and no one wants hunters on every street corner. Elders are not immune to having their haven set ablaze.
>>724500180Yes.
>>724500246>He's a maverick with a knack for survival and adaptabilitysounds like the ad to a crappy movie
>>724500246Even methuselahs aren’t invincible, you can kill one in night road. It’s antediluvians when you start wondering if they can solo a city alone
>>724500204oh wow that's a lot of zeros also yeah that's the one. it's a shame because benicio del toro was really passionate about the wolf man, there's a ton of behind the scenes to watch that's really cool, and it has its moments, but the overall movie is just kinda eh.
>>724500313Fuck you, I've read that in Don LaFontaine's voice.
>>724500032me as the thinblood dodging punches from the 500 year old vampire
>>724500420>THEIR NAME IS PHYRE... AND THEY'RE GONNA BURN IT ALL DOWN
vam phyre
Who are the "anarch thin bloods" that have invisibility powers?
>>724500638MALFABIEN
>>724495693You forgot about the thread theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_oWxmJp73I
>>724500660Lo Sombre
>>724496005>>724495790Gay furry black muslim who is also somehow "a strict materialist," which is not only impossible as you literally have to profess in the existence of a god to be a muslim, but is also objectively and demonstrably incorrect in that setting.
>>724496005kek
>>724499367I was okay with this scene because it made sense for Lou to just want to clean house no matter the consequences but what I really hated was how there was no way to comment on her using dominate on Ryong.Unironically the scene would've been a lot better if Ryong just pussied out due to actually just being scared of Lou
>>724500000Seasonal get, nice
>>724500817actually from the combat animations they seem to be gangrel
>>724499958I do at least appreciate that the first guy you punch is a baseline human that literally gets splashed on the wall as his corpse ricochets down the hallway.
Whether you like vtmb2 or no, it’s just nice to be having discussions again and some of us are learning about new vidya. I didn’t even know a wraith game existed
>>724500660>>724500817>>724501206They're not any of those things by definition because they are thin bloods...
>>724501358>it’s just nice to be having discussions againvtmb threads have always been fairly regular especially around october
>>724501524I know but they’re more broad right now
>>724501358Yeah these threads are chill now that the /v/ hivemind has moved onto hating the latest new game. Thank you outer worlds 2 for dying at the steam chart thread alter so we can have comfy vampire threads in peace.
>>724501572How bad did Outer Wild 2 do on Steam?
>>724501685Bad, hopefully. Obsidian and Bioware both deserve to die.
>>72450168530 million players on gamepass
>>724501493everyone younger than an Elder is a thin blood
>>724500998>>724501078He really is leftist schizoid's ideal vampire>God exists but he isn't real>Minority x 10>STD mule>sexual deviant>unwashed
Would a real vampire threaten another vampire with a shotgun? I'm not a lore knower but that seems kinda pointless if it takes like 5 shots to kill you
>>724498080All the choices in this pos are retarded and have no impact at all. Who the fuck cared for Verona?Who the fuck cared for Ysabella/Safia/literally anyone in this? You spend like no time with any NPC at all. And for some buttfucking reason they brought in Damsel as a cameo, an NPC with like 5 minutes of dialogue from VTMB. Instead of Beckett, Jack, Gary, Jeanette, Fat Larry, each more memorable than the whole cast of VTM"B" 2.
>>724501893it has white phosphorous
>>724501785worse than Bloodlines 2 or worse than Ninja Gaiden 4?
>>724500180but I thought Kingmaker is (YOU) becoming a king, not you politicking to elect a king. Also, you're more of an errand boy for the first 40-50% of the game
>>724501893shotguns are no joke. also consider special shells. dragon's breathe or whatever
>>724501893Guns seem very effective against Vampires, if Bloodlines is anything to go by.
>>724502023>throw bang snap at methuselah>he burns to death
>>724501358I went into 2 thinking I was just going to just bear witness to the trainwreck, and still thought so up until the construction site where it finally clicked that I was coming at it wrong and needed to treat it like a stealth game where the individual combat areas were a puzzle to solve with "melee clusterfuck" being the fail state. Then I found myself genuinely having fun setting up propane tank bombing runs and blood curse/boil combos that cleared whole rooms. Fabien story mode was a mess until about 2/3s of the way through when it finally started to click what was going on, but the fact that they went ahead and put in a "fast forward through the walking parts" indicates they knew that shit was too fucking long.It sucks that so many people and think "this game isnt exactly like the 21 year old game I like but also better" and thus slam it, because there really is some decent shit to had there.
>>724501987NG4 flopped? Sad.
>>724501893It still hurts and can put you into torpor.
>get forced into another gay Fabien walking sim>great>need evidence on Lou to bring to Campbell>go to the Glacier>faggot Nosferatu is by the elevator>OMGGGG like, hiiiii Fabien, sucked any cock lately? Because I DEFINITELY have>won't let me into the basement unless I walk all over fucking town talking to people>this is why I hate fags>every fucking "lead" sends me somewhere else and I end up having to stop and go find one of Fabien's blood dolls to recharge his stupid schizo powers>no combat or anything, just walk from point A to B and click through dialogue wheels>finally fucking done>return to fagola queer>whoaaaaa Fabien you're already done?? I only had a chance to bounce on 17 dicks!!!>finally allowed into elevator>doesn't work>forced to fucking talk to the elevator panel and have a schizo conversation with it before I can finally go down to the basement>there aren't any checks you can fail or anything, it's literally just a glorified cutscene with dialogue "choices"What kind of fucking brown subhumans does the Chink Room hire? Who fucking thought any of this was engaging or acceptable game design?
>>724501893Shotgun is one of few firearms that in fact can seriously damage kindred, it get even worse with dragon breath ammunition.
>>724501893Shotguns have enough impact to put a vamp on the ground even if it doesn't kill you outright, follow that up with 3-4 more shots and that Vamp is dead even as an elder. Guns are rather deadly in WoD as>Mortals can't soak(mitigate) lethal damage, typically from guns or knives or fuckoffstrong hits>Vamps can soak lethal but it's still less effective>Shotguns do a lot of damageShotguns are pretty much a go to for eliminating nearly every splat as they're affordable, strong, and can be fitted with a lot of different ammo>Hunter/MortalShotgun to the face>VampireWhite Phosphorous/Shotgun to the face>WerewolfShotgun to the face + silver buckshot/slugs and even the toughest furry is going to be paste on your driveway>WraithDecapitate a dude and turn his torso into a shotgun, then apply shotgun to the face>ChangelingLoad shotgun with economic graphs and apply shotgun to the face
>>724501893Go look up the damage that a 12 gauge slug can do, then add fun payloads like magnesium or yeah, white phosphorus. Shotguns are no joke in VTM just on their own.
>>724502067BIG CALIBER guns are effective against vampires..50 cal to the face takes care of most vampires.
>>724499367This scene is also the biggest retard moment for Phyre too>be Sheriff>know Lou is a fucking retard who goes around killing anyone who she doesnt like>see Lou using Dominate on the Prince>is duty-bound to cut her shit right there>even if not duty bound, could at least fuck her up for Fabien's sake>doesnt have any option for it because the devs want to railroad you into getting duped so you can get the damsel cameo for 5 seconds and the big reveal that everyone saw coming of the twist villainTCR somehow made the most weak and retarded Elder ive seenEven LaCroix was smarter and he was played by multiple people
>>724502304It's fun, but they did say they're gonna make the Fabien bits optional after the first playthrough
>>724502304To be fair, this was the worst instance of this happening. but yeah the game is completely uninspired when it comes to gameplay.
>>724502149He should know better and invest couple dots into fortitude to face tank it or in auspex to see it coming from mile away.If you want to get serious use technocracy orbital mirror, one that was used to kill Ravnos.
>tfw a couple of guys with shotguns can assrape vampiresgod bless america
>>724501987>>724502282NG4 actually sold pretty well, considering it's not a high budget game at that
>>724501893even if you don't outright kill the other vampire with it, you'd still have a big advantage getting even one well placed shot off before hand to hand combat starts
>>724499367I hate what they did to Ryong all that effort for nothing
>>724502353>BIG CALIBER guns are effective against vampires.What caliber is a deagle? https://youtu.be/UtpWxkQUCB0?si=DO956REfsf2qoSGG&t=102
What do you do in werewolf games? Like, in VTM you get bossed around by your elders, go through cammie infighting stuff, or go up against them, or fight the sabbat... do you just RIP AND TEAR through a pentex facility?
>>724502161>how DARE people expect a successor with the same subtitle be similar to the original?!Yer a faget.
>>724502586That's basically what Earthblood was
>>724502498yeah that's why their first line of defense is making sure you don't know they exist. And then it's making sure you don't know they as an individual exist. And then it's to make sure they can't find you. and then they send mortals or their ghoul retainers after you and then they try to ambush you or use mental disciplines on you
Okay now seks is definitely off the table I believe
>>72450258450 cal
>>724501893One of the first things Jack says in VTMB is that fire and a shotgun blast to the head will easily kill youEven Elders get popped by dragons breath and white phosporousIts why the Camarilla is so strong and why the Masquerade is a must, humans are too OP for vamps in the grand scheme of things
>>724502161>It sucks that so many people and think "this game isnt exactly like the 21 year old game I like but also better" and thus slam it, because there really is some decent shit to had there.Super duper hyper shill talking point. I've seen shill news outlets say this with so many games and movies.
>>724502498can assrape anyone even, assuming they don't get caught offguard or walk into some reality bending domain like the a True Fae's realm
>>724502391In what fucking universe is going from Point A to Point B clicking on dialogue trees about absolutely nothing interesting "fun"
>>724502498Couple dudes with pitchforks and torches can assrape vampires, that's entire point of masquerade, because bunch of inbred pesants with torches managed to put down fuckton of low generation ubermensch elder vampires, so now vampires gaslight people into believing that bloodsuckers don't exist. Vamps are even more fucked now in advent of automatic weapon, incendary munitions, tanks, jet fighters and nukes.
>>724502586Yep, play Earthblood. It's the same approach as VTMB2, you go stealthy until you get made and then you go loud, only you go VERY loudThe story is about how you're pretending not to be gay as fuck in Twilight
>>724502745Makes sense.
>>724502715Are you telling me I don't ever get the opportunity to fuck Ryong
>>724502586Rip and tear through a bunch of factories and corruption nests, sometimes through fellow werewolves, sometimes you RP being a warrior of gaia or something. Occasionally hulk out at the single mother of 3 that decided to litter, that sort of thing. WtA is a game about getting angry and being genetically retarded but maintaining enough willpower and common sense to realize that it's a self-defeating cycle of violence or something like that>>724502683Earthblood was kind of low on the religious zealotry for my taste, spirit shit was very lowkey too
>>724502919As far as I can tell you only get to fuck the primogens who teach you skills, and even then it's only a fade to black
>>724502161Die, shill.
>>724502584I can believe a .50 AE to the head and then the heart taking out a shovelhead.
>>724502797>Yep, play Earthblood.I thought it was dogshit. Or is it just painfully mediocre like bloodlines 2?
>>724502715>Single hottest woman in the game>Kill her off without even letting you shagGreat game
>>724503008It's mediocre Eurojank
>>724502304The sad thing is, his parts could have actually been good if they were geographically confined to small spaces like an interior with multiple NPCs and the player has to actually use his brain for some puzzling.
>>724502983Worthless shit game why am I even playing this shit
>>724503026Oh yeah she's hot alright. Smoking hot.
>>724502161>It sucks that so many people and think "this game isnt exactly like the 21 year old game I like but also better"if you're going to call something a sequel then it should probably be similar to the previous game and not worse, otherwise why call it a sequel? then you're just aping the name to try and get people to buy your shit. desu kind of a retarded thing to say. i wouldn't expect people who like vtmr to have been happy if vtmb was called vtmr2 either.
>>724502161>individual combat areas were a puzzleThe solution is always auto recharging relocate power + possessionI had fun exactly once in this game and it was when hunters drop in on you in waves before you meet the leader
>>724503079Cause you wanna get in on that
>>724501893Shotguns fuck Kindred up
>>724501919>choicesIt was made by chineese room, it's glorified walking sim masquerading as rpg, if it was up to cr devs game wouldn't even have combat mechanics, just straight up walking and reading book worth ammonunt of lore.You have any half assed choices only because paradox forced them to make them.
>>724503064I actually thought that's what it was going to be in the very first section where they introduce all his different powers. Like oh cool, I'll have to determine which is the most useful during interrogations and evidence gathering and shit, this might actually feel like I'm a vampire detective!Nope, completely on rails, only one "correct" power to use in any given situation, and if you fuck up, like picking the "wrong" line when you're using the mask of 1000 faces ability, it just resets the cutscene.I actually hate the "people" who are praising this game.
>>724495591There is only one VtMB game. And it will stay that way due to the fact that the sequel has been dubbed Shitlines
>>724503008Earthblood is actually one of those it's so bad it's kind of good games 50% of the time and a painfully mediocre on the other 50% of the time. The combat is actually competent and the soundtrack is good, but everything around the combat is just very boring. The story and lore though, it's like they used a primitive AI tool to read it>Werewolves hulk out and instead of letting them hulk out in the middle of a pentex facility other wolves try to stop them>wolves killing each other in pretty retarded ways for no reason>not much actual dialogue with spirits or kinfolk/other garou>Red Talons are the pacifist/wait and see faction>Your character goes through 3 fomori and one or more BSD's because of the subsidiary's retarded CEO, ends up causing tons of losses for Pentex, and instead of Pentex cutting them off they keep funding the guyIt's like every cool part of the lore got raped on purpose
>>724496326That would be extremely relevant in a variety of situations. You have a natural inclination to be infatuated with the source, ensuring much tighter control. You might be in a situation where the elder from whose blood you drank orders you to betray another member of your coterie and tell them something you don't want to. If they're in your presence you're fucked, they're gonna get it out of you eventually. It also is one step closer to a full blood bond, where you're basically just a thrall utterly consumed with your master.
>>724503182>you can fuck an old wrinkly cunt, a muscular biker homo that likes faggot poetry, a Russian twink, a girlboss ongo bongo, or a they/them goblin>the two actually hot women in the game? nah fuck you
>>724499920Just know that you're correct. /v/ is overrun with jeets and spiritual jeets barking "shill" at each other.
>>724503182>imagine getting embraced at 75I would seethe eternally if I was that Tremere
>>724503393It's literally just your average Cyanide gameI love those fuckers
>>724503182Didn't care for this. Coming to the Tremere primogen to learn Thaumaturgy without being a Tremere should get your blood boiled.
>>724499920>>724503462Niggers, calling them shills is actually giving them the benefit of the doubt, because the other choice is that those "people" are completely fucking braindead for calling this shit game good.
>>724503182would
>>724503182did
>>724496005The existence of Rudi is a Camarilla psyop to make the anarchs look bad. I refuse to accept he's actually canon.>based on someone the author actually knows btw
>>724503657>you CANNOT have fun with something I personally did not have fun with>it is simply NOT POSSIBLE, NOT POSSIBLE I SAY!You're on the spectrum.
>>724503657It's one retard who has been spamming about how glorious TCR is for years at this point. Anyone who was in threads about VTMB2 before release knows himI'm fine with calling that retard a shill, semantics aside
>>724503710>>724503743That's quite tickety-boo.
>>724503473woah hold on a minute, the guys that are responsible for Bloodbowl, Styx, and Call of Cthulhu made Werewolf an action game instead of something more their style? This is starting to seem like a pattern for WoD games except the VR ones
>>724503464It seems like it'd be pretty useful desu. You can project respectability or appear harmless depending on the situation. but you're also not someone people would remember, like they would someone attractive or threatening. Mortals are inclined to take pity on you or take advantage of you. Both very useful for feeding. and of course you experience none of the actual downsides of old age
>>724502776You're a little uptight, huh? Maybe you just like being in a bad mood and hate silly things.
>>724503867>instead of something more their styleThey have loads of different games. Werewolf I guess is most akin to a Spiders game
>>724503657some posters here have said paradox employees became more active on the vtmb subreddit around the same time that vtmb2 posting here ramped up heavily as it got closer to release with the same poster defending the game in every thread>>724503768to be fair plenty of people who like the game act like any criticism is entirely unjustifiable as well, saying any criticism is review bombing or from bigots lol
>>724503991>why do you hate having your time wasted for 2 hours of a boring walking sim that should have been a cutscene?Kill yourself you fucking shill.
>>724502949>ccasionally hulk out at the single mother of 3 that decided to litterReasonable. People who litter are absolute scum, just the lowest possible tier of humanity.
>>724503867They also make a lot of Tour De France games
What power from the lore is Fabien using to save Phyre from the sun?Also these faggots really put in a "hold W to crawl forward" section. For hating all gameplay, they're quite familiar with shitty AAA conventions
>>724504060>people who like the game act like any criticism is entirely unjustifiable as well, saying any criticism is review bombing or from bigots lolThis annoys me far more than someone just saying they liked the game. Actual shill behavior even if they aren't technically shills. There's nothing wrong with enjoying dogshit, I like plenty of terrible slop. I just don't pretend like it's actually amazing.
>>724502715I liked her voice, but it had a weird accent I couldn't place. Vietnamese? >>724502790imagine what a vampire could do in a fighter jet
>>724503464It might have changed in 5th edition, but in previous editions embracing the elderly or the infirm would rarely work. You 9 times out of 10 end up with their beast taking over immediately. 75 is probably the oldest you COULD embrace
>>724504107We have Red Talons on 4chan? I thought they were too busy getting tard wrangled by the Glass Walkers to post online
>>724502149Not a chance. A Methusaleh is going to take that shot on the chin and dust you before you finish racking the next cartridge. If you're taking a Methusaleh out you have a much better plan than cornering him with a shotgun, and it typically happens while he's sleeping during the day.
>>724504208I'm a stupid dumb ESL scum but to me it just sounded like an American accent where she remembered she was supposed to put on an accent every 10 words, or maybe flubbed some word endings while recording
>>724504187yeah, even with my favorite games i dislike when someone else tries to say they're perfect. criticism can be a good thing.
>>724504160It's just Willpower anon, all things are possible through sheer grit and determination and if we're really going to get picky Fabien could have developed True Faith in the protagonist to solve his investigation
>>724504060>>724504187I see more often that if you say absolutely anything mildly good against a game somebody hates, then you must be a shill or an employee. Fucking retard brains need to be destroyed
>>724504208her VA is apparently jap
>>724503945I thought older vamps still had the same issues they had at that age when they were mortal, like bone health or other stuff. Like there's a V5 page for a ventrue that's 103 biological years old who can't feed by himself>>724504213interesting
>Phyre braves the sun through the power of friendship>story is leading up to ripping Safia's stupid head open>Fabien flashbackI HATE THIS GAMEI HATE THIS GAMEI HATE THIS GAMEI HATE THIS GAMEI HATE THIS GAMEI HATE THIS GAME
>>724504160>What power from the lore is Fabien using to save Phyre from the sun?Dunno cuz didn't and won't play the game, but dots in fortitude allow you to tank sun for some short time.
>>724504160>What power from the lore is Fabien using to save Phyre from the sun?It's a very powerful Kindred Discipline known as Asspull.No, seriously, on tabletop there is a Discipline tier known as "story bending power" but this is some hardcore Antideluvian shit
>>724503768If you legitimately thought this game was good then it's you who has problems. Please, kindly fuck off and out of my hobby so it may become good again.
>>724504412REEEE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MOTHERFUCKING CORPORATE SHILL
>>724504450you dont end up with physical issues related to age when you are a vamp, but if you dont have your teeth you dont get new ones after an embrace, so that would prevent feeding.
>>724504208>imagine what a vampire could do in a fighter jetMost likely die from sunburn.
>>724504532I had fun with it.What now? Gonna fucking shit your pants?
>>724504450Major disabilities carry over, yeah. but you're not going to get a fucking heart attack or have high blood pressure as a vampire
>>724504503>but dots in fortitude allow you to tank sun for some short time.Yeah, max Fortitude allows you to tank sun damage for about 5 minutes until you are burned to death/torpored. I don't think Fabien has 5 dots in Fortitude.
>>724504604lol
>>724504604aircraft don't work at night?
>>724504705It's Phyre's body
>>724504627no, I'M going to shit YOUR pants
>>724504160>Fortitude is a Discipline that grants Kindred unearthly toughness, even to the point of resisting fire and sunlight. >>724504327that cannot protect vampires, True Faith causes aggravated damage to vamps
>>724504732They fly above the clouds so they're always in the sun
>>724504627"Having fun" is a fundamentally different statement to "it is good". Are you legitimately braindead? I guess congratulations are in order, you qualify for gubment mandated retard bucks.
>>724504806Don't threaten me with a good time, cupcake!
>>724502161>fast forward through the walking partsthat's just his sprint, it was a creative way to implement it rather than just having him run
>>724504208You think Ryong has an accent? Are you retarded?
>>724504897Congrats, you figured it out! Now point out where I claimed the game was objectively good. Don't worry, I'll wait, Sandeep.
>>724504705You never know with elders. Helen of Troy who is toreador methuselah, presence clan have some neonate level dots in presence but 8 or 9 in dominate.
>>724504913>most disgusting, disfigured, entitled character is also the most gayholy based
>>724504956She does you idiot. Not recognizing that means you're autistic.
>>724504873i don't think that's how it works. the earth is facing away from the sun at night.
>>724504925Based on no evidence at all, I will never stop believing that they originally had Fabien walk at a normal speed with no sprint or speedup and the testers were screaming at the devs about the 10 minute long walking sections
>>724504913God, I heard it in this faggot's voice.
>>724505065She definitely does not
>>724505209
>>724504913>Tolly still triggering the chuds.A gift that keeps on giving!
>Get of Fenris becomes antagonists>viking larpers get madHahahah get fucked, Viking larpers are obnoxious fags same reason why space wolves fans suck
>>724504861Vamps can have True Faith
>>724505334But the Red Talons already existed
>>724505373nta how does that even work
>>724505373not in v5
>>724505438Red talons = basedGet of Fenris = fagsIt's quite simple really
>>724505461True Faith is essentially just very strong belief in something, it's not innately religious though religion is one of the simpler ways to channel and develop it. How exactly it manifests is more up to the ST's discretion
>>724505632ohh okay, interesting
>>724505517Damn, V5 raping even more of the lore than I thought originally. That's a bit lame but I suppose I can understand it>>724505563>Dogs with "intelligence">based
>>724505632Yeah, i was really surprised when i found out an inhumanly greedy person could theoretically develop True Faith on money itself.
>>724501856>>724500998>>724495790can vampires get aids?
>>724504984>defending a game this hard weekend you don't even think it's good, just funAnd you seriously wonder why people call you a shill?Nigger, I had fun with Hogwarts Legacy, but I wouldn't go around defending it, correcting people who use wrong terminology or some such on it or anything, I'd just ignore while calling the game a piece of shit. Oh the fucking ironing of you calling others autistic.
>>724505860No, they're immune to disease
>>724505912>dumb piece of fucking shit realized he just made himself look stupid so he spergs out
>>724505860>>724505918Isn't one of the flaws you can grab that you transmit STDs with your bite/blood?
>>724506041they can be healthy carriers for disease, but they would not be harmed by it
>>724505860Yes, while they don't get sick they act as carriers and can infect others aka poison food supply.
>walking sim segment>have to find out where Campbell went>talk to Tolly and Benny neither of whom know>Katsumi tells me she will give me the info if I give her Dale's recipes>have to walk over to Dale's place and pick up a book>then walk backTHEY MUST BE DOING THIS SHIT ON PURPOSETHIS COULD HAVE BEEN A 20 SECOND CUTSCENE
>>724505847>>724505696Yeah there's a lot of ways True Faith could manifest>Financial system lets man use his credit card to ward off vampires by paying them off or it supernaturally unnerves them enough to flee>faith in your Smith and Wesson lets you put down a leech with one bulletI suppose the real hard part is building up true faith requires the type of hardcore zealotry and purity of belief that even Garou going "muh Gaia" and slaughtering an entire factory can't accomplish
>>724506170DO YOU RIKE IT ANON??? DO YOU RIKE OUR INTERPRETATION OF BROODRINES 2????
>>724501893Answering the question both in-universe and gameplay-wise, you are generally correct. It's going to take multiple shots to down a Kindred that's not like 5 days old, so long as you're not using specialized rounds like dragonbreath. Let me try to break it down: In World of Darkness, the system that Vampire and other games use, there are three types of damage: Bashing, Lethal, and Aggravated. Bashing is what you would expect, damage from punches, bats, etc. Lethal are weapons like knives, guns, electricity, and generally anything that someone would be highly dangerous when struck. Aggravated represents either supernatural damage or something egregiously lethal in the case of mortals. You have an HP pool, which is typically around 6 for newer characters and damage is marked as a forward slash, X, or star corresponding to bashing, lethal, and aggravated damage. Each time you take a form of damage, you mark off the leftmost box with damage received. This continues until all boxes are filled, at which point you receive heavy penalties and any damage received is upgraded to the next highest (e.g. you take bashing when all boxes are filled with bashing and it converts to lethal, lethal to aggravated). Once all boxes fill with lethal, you're in a coma. Once all boxes fill with aggravated, you're a ghost. Kindred have a special condition in that guns cause bashing damage instead of lethal. This means that they have effectively double the HP pool of a mortal when being shot, AND they have the capability to heal wounds using the supernatural power of their blood unlike mortals who have to wait to heal.So a shotgun blast is not going to majorly fuck you up unless the guy firing it has some high stats and you are fresh off the boat and totally unarmored...OR if they have specialized ammo. Remember what I said about bashing damage? If they fire dragonbreath, that's all aggravated, which can't be healed with your blood. Now THAT will fuck you up in a couple shots.
>>724504160Beckett was able to run a football field in the sun and survive, and Phyre is a lot older than that, and still got majorly fucked up, Fabien says they're in torpor. When you wake up you'll notice you're laying facedown in a pool of blood from the streets above, otherwise you wouldn't have woke up at all.
>>724506170>anon gets filteredlove to see it
>>724506308It's not even just walking sim shit, it's blatantly wasting your timeThe previous 2 or 3 flashbacks did the sameAlso TCR is not a chink dev, funnily enough
>>724505373Yes, there even is 8th gen gargoyle who is on cammy most wanted list who is dots in 9 true faith and 9 humanity, he is also religious nutjob.If you trully/fanatically believe in something then you can get true faith, it's also reason why village housewife can be more dangerous to vampire than armed man, she can be so deep in faith she get multiple dots in true faith.
>>724506516>GOD I LOVE POINTLESS WALKING SIMS, PLEASE FUCK MY ASS MOREkill yourself, shill.
>>724506308>the chinese room>devs are all brit bongswhat did they mean by this
Can Dominate really erase memories? Wouldn't you need to do a Dominate to erase your use of Dominate from the mind?
>>724506517>>724506580I know they're bongs, it's just funny to make fun of retarded decisions by imagining the devs speaking with blatantly racist Engrish accents.
>>724506620Also while I'm at it, why can Campbell even Dominate a kindred? Is it a lore thing where their vamp sponsor lends ghouls their power?
>>724495693Luthita…
>>724506572>random school teacher in small town USA obliterates a coterie just by preaching on sundays
>>724506517>>724506652>Call themselves The Chinese Room>None of their games even reference the thought experience
>>724506620Dominate can modify a target's memories. They can effectively erase events by rewriting them to another life. I haven't played VTMB2 so I can't comment on your follow-up since I don't have context, but since Dominate is heavily contingent on Generation I don't see how a ghoul could possibly dominate even a 13th Generation Kindred. Though, if their master is of sufficiently low Generation like maybe 7th or so, I'd probably be fine with them being able to Dominate a Thinblood for narrative purposes.
>>724506892They did at least reference China in Bloodlines 2, but no Kuei-jin for obvious reasons.
>>724506892It means they're written by AI
>>724506578seethe more anon it is very entertaining
>>724507016My bad about the second part, in the game there is a ghoul who is apparently later embraced but I completely missed that he got embraced
>>724507151When your parents die no one will care.
>>724507218I saw your Mom on pornhub. But not your father.
>>724503710>>724503743kek
I fucked her first
I didn't fuck any of the side characters because I was worried it would mess things up with Sofia.I was a fool
>>724507664same
>>724505209She absolutely does. She consistently pronounces certain words strangely.
>>724507056Probably, I think even AI slop can produce better storylines
>>724505209It's subtle, kind of makes it sound like she has chewing gum in her mouth
Not playing this putrid dogshit game. Not gonna watch it, not gonna play it, I don't fucking care how many shills say it's fun. It is obectively and morally a god damn dumpster fire and anyone who isn't a fucking retard knows this
>>724507878Ok
>>724507878I'm the smartest girl on /v/ and I don't know anything of the sort.
>>724507878That is the correct choice.t. guy who is about to finish it
>>724506813One of most dangerous vampire hunters is some old dude from 1800's who is village religiouys nutjob who after witnessing vampire attack decided to hunt vampired down. Dude is hunting vampires as his divine purpose and drink their blood to extend his lifespan. Dude is almost 200 years old looks 71, is in better shape than 20 years old and camarilla instruction for dealing with him is "avoid at all cost, after 20 years without vitae he should die of natural causes".So yes rural fanatic is fucking dangerous for vampires.
>>724507963>>724507954it's like you stupid pieces of shit haven't seen any of the threads shitting on this game for the past 5 years
>>724508041Not only have I seen them, I made quite a few. I just ended up liking the game and seeing it as a disappointment simultaneously. Sentient people are capable of this nuance, while the idea escapes the average /v/groe's grasp like a fine mist.
i enjoyed it because i think vampires are cool, shit as a sequel though
>>724507878>morallyit's a consumer good that they charge peanuts for get over yourself
I didn’t hate it but I just went back to PoD CK3
>>724508204why be such a half assed shillnot buying your slop
>>724507974What a gigachad
We'll never have a good Tzimisce game
>>724508041I got it for free 6 years ago so I figured I might as well
Do I need specific fixes for Redemption or does the GoG version just work
I hate fighting the stupid abomination things
>>724508439Tzimisce are gay
So...did the B2 update actually go through on consoles or just PC? I had an update but can't see any of the new cosmetics
>>724508653who fucking cares
>>724508295I pirated it and I suggest you do the same
>>724508609>Tzimisce female grows giant futa cocknot so gay now bucko
>>724508491GOG version just werks for bug fixes but there are still some fan patches that you would probably be interested, restoring cut content and other stuff>>724508594yeah I fucking hate those things. I abuse the telekinesis powers against them a lot and use the knife hand power. they wouldn't be so bad if you could feed from them but since you can't, and how you can hardly stun them, and there's always a shitload of them, they're the hardest things to fight
>>724508439Make your own Tzimisce minion-crafting game and sell it to Paradox
>>724508723cry little baby WAH WAH baby need a diapie! Babye needs a DIAPIE! wipe your own ass little whiny bitch and solve your own goddamn problems! stop crying about video games all day you little shit sucking retard!
>>724509071Lmao
holy fuck what a dogshit final boss
>>724495693Based Lasombra enjoyer.>>724503867Paradox have fuck all idea as to how to manage the WoD IP and their own in-house devs. To take one example>Paradox buys HBS in the year V5 is released>a company experienced in translating a TTRPG system into decent set of RPGs (Shadowrun trilogy) >puts them to work on Lamplighters League instead of a vtm gameThe mind boggles. The fact that pic-related is the best wod game in 20 years speaks volumes.
>>724510065Yeah but shadowrun is a shit setting and a shit system
>>724510119so's ur mum
>>724510006it was alright. games like this always have absolutely awful final bosses because they're not really made for that kind of thing.
>>724510065Those Shadowrun Games did not adapt the rules from the tabletop in the slightest, it was more about the setting.
For my next Bloodlines replay I'm going for a Rudi playthrough. Is his stat sheet available in any sourcebook? I'd like to make my character as close to the real thing as possible. I'll also need to find the best NPC model to swap with the default gangrel one, maybe that black doctor.
>>724510319>b-but other games also had bad final bossesCongratulations
>>724510347please consider suicide
>>724510461whiny bitch doesn't know how to air juggle or teleport lmao
How do I keep mommy alive while also becoming a prince anons? Is it possible?
>>724508980Real Tzimisce are beyond such humane things as gender and sexual orientation.
>>724504160>What power from the lore is Fabien using to save Phyre from the sun?The power of friendship, naturally.
>>724507974>the vampire fears the hillbilly
>>724510564I dunno what you mean by teleport other than using the powers, and air juggling doesn't help against the monster guysBut good of you to confirm that only glitches can make the game remotely bearable
Can you join Safia?
>>724510667None of those things are glitches
Hollywood is the best hub.
>>724510698Of course not.
>>724510698>actual choiceslol
>>724510747actually it's Seattle
>>724510750>>724510761Maybe one day I'll get such VtM game.
>>724510567You have to wipe the anarchs and the military
second playthrough and so far literally nothing changes even though im trying to do the opposite compared to what i did before, some characters are nicer/meaner and that's it, the events that unfold are exactly the same
>>724510761>>724510750choices didn't matter in the original either fucktards besides changing some dialogue same as 2 you fools
As far as I can see, the most common ending is Katsumi (8.6%)>>724510910You can only affect the ending slides with your choices
>>724510858Makes sense. I guess also being positive towards her (duh) and keeping a pro-Camarilla side wouldn't hurt, right? Thanks anon.
>>724510345And HBS made decent games despite that. I doubt most vtm fans care about a system's accuracy so long as the gameplay and story are decent, with lorerape kept to an absolute minimum.Paradox's insistence on V5 whereever possible makes the CYOA games kind of annoying, desu. Hunger is a constant fucking ballache in those games.>hurr get fucked if you use the discipline in big bolded letters
Cool game, awesome ambiance, beautiful goth/prog soundtrack, the combat is a bit janky but the rest is goodThe game stutters a bit on the Z1E but there is a mod that fixes some UE5 parameters that the devs did not correct yet (maybe future patch?)Unfortunatly, it seems cursed by the same thing that happened to VTMB, but it sure deserves a comeback!
>>724511121>waaah I'm a vampire why do I have to hunt for blood
>>724496150That's what ghouls and retainers are for. 24hr salon that stays open at night and you're the best customer.
>>724511006I got Katsumi and it pissed me off, I was trying to just gtfo of Seattle and thought I made that clear. I guess if you're just mildly friendly to everyone, it complicates which ending you get
>>724511121Fuck you, the Shadowrun games are not decentThey're great :D
>>724511006>the most common ending is Katsumi (8.6%)commies play this game what??
>>724495591
>>724502304>investigation 1This sucks, it's just like that robocop game people pretend is good but at least you can walk faster.>Investigation 2+This is just as bad as the robocop game.
>hurr 2012 gave native Americans magic powers which also made people transform into elves and orcs and also the magic native Americans chopped up americaShadowrun is fucking retarded and has no business getting brought up in a WpD thread
>>724511006>katsumi endingfuck right off to reddit if you got this ending
>>724511249>mediocre combat copied from another game without getting what works about it>noncombat parts are walking to quest markersI guess HBS really innovated with that shit.
>>724511385fuck you it was an accident
>CATS-OO-MEEI hate how westerners pronounce Japanese names
>>724511572OOOOH ONICHAN DESU NE
I want a Nosferatu game, sneaking around getting blackmail, spying, taking part in some elaborate conspiracy. I wonder what would make a cool story for that
>>724511608Play the TTRPG
>>724511608Hm the gameplay side makes me think of real time tactics stealth games, like Commandos and its copycats
>>724511572how would a Jap say it? kazyhiri miller
>>724511512so was your conception
achievable natty???
>>724511801Hey yeah that reminds me, how did the Sheriff in VTMB1 turn into a giant bat? I thought transforming like that was a werewolf thing
>>724511801you have to mew with baby chicken
>>724511860The sheriff is from a bloodline that has Vicissitude that why he turn into a Gaint Bat
>>724511952Is that the Tzimisce thing? I thought that lets them permanently change their body, not transform on a whimTime to read the wiki
>>724511952does Protean let you turn into stuff like that or is it just normal animals? I know in bloodlines 1 you could be a wolfman monster but I'm not sure if that's lore accurate
>Paradox let people use their IP to make fan games, and even monetize them as long as it's only on Itch>forced to use V5very gay of them
>>724512193you can transform yourself and change your body it's not permanent. Andrei and the Sferrif turn into a WarForm version using Vicissitude the Sheriff Bloodline is a Nagloper
Why are vampires always so desperate for Big Human Cock?
>>724512224I think it's just normal animals like Wolves and Bats
>>724511860He uses a Vicissitude technique called Chiropteran Marauder. The Sheriff wasn't a Tzimisce though but a Nagloper, a weird rare mix of Laibon (umbrella term for African vamps) and Tzimisce.
>>724511362They should port this one to PC. I remember being interested when it came out but not enough to get a Playstation
>>7245125651 and 2 were better
>>724512565I fucking love Prototype and 2, I should probably get around to emulating Infamous
>>724512635It's infamous not prototype
>>724512224it was a bat creature in 1 but the unofficial patch plus changes it to a wolf head iirc
>>724512224Protean does yeah
>>724512356Is gangrel just normal animal transformations in the ttrpg?
>>724512224The dot 5 ability in bloodlines is a more controllable and weaker version of the dot 7 ability in the ttrpg, the later which lets you giganigga out even harder at the cost of being unable to control what giganigga-you will do next.
>>724513032Not limited to normal animals but yes
>>724513032yes it's based on Dracula turning into animals in the original book
>>724512346Larian should have bought it not Parafloppa, there I said it, they'd give us what we wanted spiced with their humor ofc but that's a trade-in I'd go down for
>>724513148BANE?
>>724513198
>>724513198BEIN KA?
>>724513157You need my cock so bad it's insane
https://youtu.be/mxqPlN1kfGQi've been googling too much vampire shit and youtube has finally caught on
>>724513184Sven's ultimate goal with Larian was always le ebin wacky Reddit playersexual space adventures with Spelljammer. WOTC just tried to extract too much during re-licensing and he walked.He has no interest in the urban horror LARPing whales, when the thinner wine-drinking catladies flock to his games already.
I can't think of a single AAA studio i would want using the VtM ip
>>724514869Larian, CDPR, Owlcat, Harebrained, all would have made a great game. If you're being /v/ about it then of course no game can ever be good, but if you actually play and enjoy games they'd all have nailed it in one way or the other.
>>724514951Lmao owlcat and hairbrained are not AAA studios
>>724514869Firaxis
>>724514951Maybe CDPR, the trouble with AAA studios they usually don't go as dark as they should with these IPs since they don't want to offend anyone
>>724514951Owlcat is doing 40k and The Expanse.CDPR is doing Witcher 4 and possibly Cyberpunk sequel.Larian is doing some original game, not a licensed one.Not sure about Harebrained.So who is left? BioWare, Bethesda and Obsidian. I don't trust neither of them.
>>724514869I can't think of a single AAA studio I would want doing anything
>>724515115not after Civ 7
>>724515349I think Ubisoft could do a solid job of it, maybe Naughty Dog.
>>724514869Who the fuck cares about AAA
>>724515474I don't think you want the Saudis involved with VtM
>>724515349Back when Arkane was a real studio, what a pain. Now they're dead and owned by big daddy microsoft>>724515474Naughty Dog maybe, but they won't. Ubisoft? Doubt it'd be competent
>>724515697Saudios own EA, not Ubi
I just realized how fucked up this thing is
>>724515928>*siiiiiip*
>>724515928I look like that chalice.
>>724515849I may be conflating SA with Tencent buying out some parts of Ubisoft
>>724515997I guess it couldn't be worse than sucking on a hobos neck>>724516000lmao. rmeinded me of pic attached
>>724515928it's ok, it was a chud before
>>724516113>tfw no game like spore where you create flesh crafted monsters as a Tzimiscewtf are you doing paradox
>>724503991fucking retarded shill fuck off and go play a detective game somewhere else, and yeah fucking right they're gonna make an optional. god these retards mess the game up so bad
>>724516206>tfw no game where you play as a tzimisce interior decorator and make a beautiful flesh mansion
>>724516276*slurop slrurop* )that's the sound of you on your knees)
>>724507878I wish I didn't pirate or play it but I was so bored, but now I regret it so much, i'm done playing shitty games, this game and borderlands 4 will be the last for the rest of my life.
>>724516408Christ is King
>>724516352I'm glad I didn't buy your piece of shit game, fuck off and go enjoy your overpriced DLC and walking sim, gonna go back to the chad vtmb and pound jeanette vamp pussy
>>724516408Based anon finally realizing that it's not about money, but about nto wasting your own time
I heard George Washington was a vampire.
>>724516508>but about nto wasting your own timehe said on 4jeets
>>724516595he was a mage but Elvis was a vampire.
the kuei jin are racist
>>724517278What makes you say that?Did you read their splat books?
>>724517689>asian must have special kung fu vampire
>>724517278vampires are racist as a collection of caricatures of pale westerners
>>724515928>Forced to live as a cup for the rest of timeThe Tzimisce really are fuckwads lel
>>724517865with your eye at the bottom to get burned by everything
So what clans are the most likely to embrace average people? Like Ventrue are all about upper class people right? Also which clan do you think you would mostly likely be embraced by?
>>724504213per Thorn's talking about her own embrace she had apparently been dabbling in some dark sorcery to extend her lifespan even as a mortal, which caught her sire's attention. In her particular case its likely she was already not affected by some of the downsides of her age at that point.
>>724516085Possibly, I could see that happening though. A lot of these modern companies are practically indistinguishable
>>724504497I mean phyre getting fucked to shitby the sun and blacking out is more or less a given in that circumstance. fuck I think he only woke up when he did because the moonflowers literally made the sewers run red with blood.
>>724505020he also implies he would have almost certainly gotten aids and died during the 80s if not having been embraced. it's always fun when leftyslop wraps back around to being based.
>>724518394brujah
>>724518394The thing is, you pretty much want to embrace people who are exceptional at whatever your clan is about and will be able to adapt quickly to your clan's disciplines.Even with Nosferatu, you want the exceedingly nosy guy, the guy who knows how to gather information, a tech wiz, and even the "Cleopatras" who were pretty in life because they serve a purpose, as they are usually the best at utilizing Obscuration in the clan.
>>724518394As that other anon said, maybe the Brujah
>>724518394probably gangrel. most often their traditional embrace method is "i'm going to try to kill you, if you fight back hard enough I'll give you some of my blood after I drain you dry," but apparently most caitiff are accidental deaths by hungry-to-the-point-of-frenzy gangrel who feel bad afterward and try to make up for it.
>>724518394>So what clans are the most likely to embrace average people?Wrong place, wrong time kind of average person? Brujah, gangrel, or if you're especially unlucky, malkavian. Potentially the Nos if you're a huge bitch in life to people maybe not as pretty or rich as you.Unless you get shovelheaded, then we can go LaSombra and Tzimisci. I'll also say Giovanni if you're family.
>>724499052Okay this is pretty kino so far. campy, but entertaining.
>>724519235>shovelheadedpeople keep saying that wtf does it mean. If you get run over by a large motorcycle?
>>724519828Yeah, exactly that, then they take what's left to make blood brothers
>>724519828shovelheads are retarded fodder vamps caitiff embraced en masse by the Sabbat
>>724519828it's a sabbat thing where they bash the guys head with a shovel to knock them out, bury them, and then make them dig their way out
>>724501893One of the elders of the Cammy council was ended by a single sawed offed shotgun blast to the face. Granted it was very much a surprise attack but even as one of the most powerful vamps around, that fucker was still given final death from just a boomstick blast.That's one of the things about the table top that doesn't really transfer to vidya too well, combat is fucking Deadly in WoD and you're only ever a bad roll or two away from final death. Especially in VTM. Even fortitude only delays things so long if you're on the backfoot. It's why hunters are still considered a threat, even during the night. If they're informed and prepare well enough, they can take down almost anyone if they're also lucky enough.
>>724520551What if somebody shot Cain in the face with some heavy shit?
>>724495591Bro that's just a screenshot of a hunter from lfd2 from behind
>>724520645they gets shot back seven times
>>724506458>there are three types of damage: Bashing, Lethal, and Aggravated.not since V5.God I hate V5's systems. Shame too, SOME (I repeat: SOME) of the actual story development that Finally happened was pretty interesting too. But the rest of it... bleh...
got some new modded game playhttps://youtu.be/HiSWsSA4grQ
>>724506458what if the vampire just dodges it
>>724496123I'm trying to like Tremere and I do for the most part, but I can't get over being a descendant of a handful of complete fuck ups who turned themselves into vampire because they sucked at magic. Also it sucks not being a real vampire and being brainwashed into following orders by your pyramid if you want to do cool shit independently. though i guess that's good and gone now
>>724520645I did say ALMOST anybodyArch mages, Methuselah and historical figures of absolute power still tend to be Fairly* untouchable by much outside themselves unless it's a Gehenna/apocalypse scenario.
>>724521016wonder when V5 will be replaced by a new edition
>>724496894shouldn't he suffer greatly from not having fed for 100 years?
>>724521386V5 is kinda new so at the rate these come out probably a half a decade or something
>>724521218>not a real vampireTremere are real vampires, they just posers because they weren't OG. Also>descendant of a handful of complete fuckupsWelcome to everyone in WoD barring Mummies
>>724521587Lou staked him (which is basically a pause button) and Safira found him some point later, and did her best to patch him up but couldnt extract him fully, so one would assume she would have been bringing him blood or at least arranging other subordinate sabbat to do so.
>>724521856just in time for the 40th anniversary
>>724496206What's the game like?I have a headset and never heard of it
>>724521587he should, but the game handwave hunger, stakes and torpor rules so who cares
>>724501942ouch, that ought to be as bad as sunlight for a vampire like the nomadfucking game man, lmao
>>724502161>Then I found myself genuinely having fun setting up propane tank bombing runs and blood curse/boil combos that cleared whole rooms.>it finally started to click what was going on, but the fact that they went ahead and put in a "fast forward through the walking parts" indicates they knew that shit was too fucking long.I felt exactly the same way and I've been shitting on shills since the beginning. It was genuinely hype when I pulled an exploding arrow out of my chest and chucked it back at the hunters. Any level fighting the white gollum looking guys was cancer though, since it's impossible to enjoy any aspect of combat without powers or explosives, and you had neither around while fighting them. It also sucked that you essentially had to abuse the right click slow mo to pick up (lmao) gunsIf not for the shit performance I might have spent some time on rooftops fighting gouls, but I think that at 15 hours of gameplay (7 of which were fabian bullshit), the combat was starting to get extremely stale
>>724521963>Welcome to everyone in WoD barring MummiesI don't know, there's something a bit cooler about being Cain's 10xgrand childe than being the nephew of some already sort of immortal mage who wanted better immortality but severely fucked up the ritual to the point where his soul is no longer immortal and he's now the dork version of a vampire>>724522016I had the feeling that he was still staked when you find him? Safia DEFINITELY didn't have access to the underground or the means to feed him constantly
>>724521258>antediluvians wake up and think they're hot shit>get nukednothing personnel lmao
>>724505860there was vampire aids in bloodlines 1
>>724523439Yes, just Fairly* untouchableThough in fairness to big daddy Ravnos, it was not only the nukes but some of the most powerful "Not Magic" of the technocracy, giant solar mirror lasers, and 3 super Kuei-jin on top the underworld having the storm of the eternity that finally took him down.But yeah, anyone can still die in the World of Darkness if everyone wants it bad enough.
>>724523158he was pincushioned, yeah, but Safira absolutely had access. there were moonflowers all over the place down there and a whole puzzle on how to unlock him. she probably wasnt down there every day or whatever but enough to keep him alive. active. whatever.