>Steam having record profits>AAA gamme studios flopping all over the placeHow?
If you want the real and non shitposty answer it's "friendslop" releasing every other month. Normies flock to that shit like a jew to a penny. Selling millions of copies of whatever lowpoly shovelware that just came out then 30% goes to steam on repeat a dozen+ times a year.
>>724502245in economics it's called "rent seeking"taking a percentage of other people's earnings is always safer and more profitable in the long term than trying to generate your own earnings
>>724502245>game flops>sold 500k copies>30% of that (500k * price) goes to ValveSeems simple.
>you don't moae games>your hardware is shit>your entire operation is just a website>your operating profit is entirely gambling for children while skimming 30% off the topIs Valve the greediest company in the industry?
during the gold rush, the only ones who made a steady profit were the ones supplying tools for the gold diggers.
>>724502743Shame nobody has made an alternative with even half of Steam's useful features.
>>724502245maybe AAA games flop because AAA games are shit
>>724503085>Steam's useful featuresYou mean things every PC can do
>>724503478are you...pretending to be retarded?
>>724502245AAs and Indies.
>>724503478Even that. Many launchers and all consoles try to take away those things.
>>724502245All the non-AAA games maybe?
>>724503478>sharing games>remote play>remote play together>steam input>big picture>a halfway decent interfaceNo other store provides those features, and some, like GOG, can't even provide good download speeds.Epic makes moving stuff between drives a retarded process, and they're the only other store with a comparable library to Steam.
>>724502245>made up nonsense to rally the steam cultistsEffective
>>724504092>Epic makes moving stuff between drives a retarded processIs it still as retarded as it used to be?>copy game to intermediate location>delete game in EGS>start installing into a new location>cancel at 2%>move the copied files on top of the unfinished download>resume installation
>>724502743It's definitely the most jewish game company out there
>>724504763Same shit to this day.
>>724502245Wtf is with the hate boner for Steam, literally nothing wrong with it other than AAA faggots crying their guts out because Steam refuses to play woke politics and gives activists the finger. Gabe Newell deserves to be immortalized to keep the fucking greedy faggots in check against his platform.
>>724503478Apparently not the case since alternatives don't exist.
>>724502245I want to know how much impact credit card companies did to the porn sector.All of Steam UK needs age verification to even see porn games. Then there's all the games wiped.
>>724505390It's an easy bait subject for easy (you)'s and shitposting
>>724502245Only complete retards buy 60-70$ AAA shit.
>>724504092>>724504763epic is shit and the download speeds are awful>on steam i can download a 100gb game in less than an hour while still using my pc>meanwhile on epic a 5gb game takes like 45 minutes and slows down my entire pc it's downloading tim sweeney is a gay retarded corpo bug man
>>724502245Valve is the main entry point of the 10k indie games released every year. And still takes 30% from sales of AAA. And rake in gambling bucks. Steam must cost a few dozen millions a year to operate in electricity costs and server infrastructure while making a dozen billions. They don't publish numbers but I would be surprised if it didn't show up in top 20 most profitable companies in the world. This is oil sheik tier.
>>724505390Bait. Paid shills. Turd worlders with loyalty for EGS due to weekly freebies.Take your pick.
>>724502743they're the most pro-consumer vidya company out there>724504912lol
>>724506503>And still takes 30% from sales of AAAWell up to a point, after $10 and %50 million the rate drops to 25/20% respectively, assuming they don't have a deal with Valve to just get a lower cut out the gate.
>>724505390i really wish they would fire Mary so they wouldn't play along with "woke politics"
>>724502245>don't have investors you have to satisfy so you can allow yourself to do nothing>winThat simple.
>>724503085You can’t play browser games or android apps. It’s not the better alternative, it’s the common store that you people praise because you are too stupid to understand a real alternative store like itchio exists. Steam hurts indie developers because $100 isn’t cheap and the losing 30% isn’t helping either.
>>724502245Valve, like Nintendo, uses a blue ocean strategy going on which is why they're both so profitable. They're the future of gaming alongside indies and AAs
>be the only functional service provider>win by defaultNow if they just started forcing a "no 3rd party launchers" policy.
VALVE is a company run by angels and Gabe is a SAINT. Show me one other company the size of Steam that is not publicly traded I dare you. You won't find one and you know why? Because being publicly traded means you answer to SHAREHOLDERS whose only purpose is to abuse their consumers and create bigger profit growth for their investors. Being privately owned means that you're not forced to provide unlimtied growth and you can actually invest in your customers. Actually this should be the case for all corporations worldwide but JEWS have fucked up everything by transforming the economy into a pyramid scheme.
>>724502245>Steam receives 30% of every game sold there, It doesn't care if you bought the least AAA slop or 10 indies as long as you keep spending the same moneyAlso, the AAA industry flop is causing a flow from consoles to pc since consoles libraries are usually more limited towards AAA slop.
>>724506503For awhile they were the most profitable company in the world per employee, but they got dethroned last year by Onlyfans
>>724502245WHAT IFHOLD ON I KNOW THIS NUTSWHAT IFPEOPLE PLAYED GAMESTHATTHAT AREN'T AAA SHITWHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAOAOAO
>>724502245step 1: do not make games.
>>724507613
>>724507613I mean yeah, imagine being the world number one pimp except it's all digital and you don't need any service more complicated than a myspace clone.
>>724504092this, the market is fully fucking open but nobody even attemps to make a steam competitor. they just stop at it being a storefront, which steam isn't>>724506470i get full gigabit speeds
>>724502245Modern AAA shit needs to sell 100s of millions just to break even. Valve gets steady income from EVERY purchase and marketing deal.
>>724506470Out of all my complaints with Epic, download speeds aren't one of them.
>>724502245people buy older games and games that are on discount, especially when the economy goes to shit.
>>724502245microtransactionsit is also how sony has huge profits with ps5 even though everyone says it sucks donkey dick
>>724502743What do the terms and conditions say
>>724513117This. I refuse to pay full price for a game that is over 20 bucks, and the only time I did recently was for the giant shit show that was Monster Hunter Wilds, which I deeply regretted, which now I'm pretty anti-pre-order now.
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>>724508946>iTs NoT a StOReFrOntIt only sells games and offers nothing else, no game ownership, no drm free games and doesn’t support native Mac/Linux. It’s not the “better alternative” when they are fighting lawsuits to stop resell of digital games.
>>724502743hasn't affected me since I started using it in 2009, so I don't care
Could it be because there are 58536626495736374 games available?
>>724519079Perish the thought
>>724502245>Steam is doing whatever the fat fuck wants and that has proven to be what makes money and he won't change that till it stops making money.>AAA studios are doing whatever the some committee tells them shareholders think will make them money which changes every time a new fad hits the normalfag population.and that is why AAA studios pump out trash while steam continues to make money.
>>724516587>"offers nothing else">mention other features that nobody else has>"THAT DOESN'T COUNT"
>>724502245In a gold rush, it’s the people who sell shovels who get rich.
>>724502743>your operating profit is entirely gambling for childrenI wonder what bizarre schizobabble is this going to end up being.
Sony under the giga-retarded leadership of Jim Ryan killed off all their little studios. Steam meanwhile gives a platform to small studios. Turns out hitching your console to developers that only release one game per decade was a bad idea. Need those little devs pumping out games.
>>724507371What if Gaben dies ?What if MS suddenly decides to lock Steam off their windows ?Too many variables. Valve is in a fragile position.
>>724502245A brief internet search of Steam's growth in revenue shows it's mostly coming from co-op games, in-app purchases, and Steam Deck sales. They aren't growing revenue through their cut of new AAA games they sell.
Triple A a shit
>>724519986>locking Steam off WindowsSurely MS wouldn't be that retarded, it'd push people to actually give a shit about meme OS's like Linux then.
>>724502743>Is Valve the greediest company in the industry?Dutch Indian.
>>724519986This sounds like cope, devs are already starting to make native Linux builds and Microsoft has lost their position of power in both the console and PC space. Valve won, and Gaben hasn't been controlling Valve for many years now, he's already retired. You sound like a Snoy making shit up against Nintendo because they already lost and it's over, just pure desperation.
>$300,000,000 budget>Doesn't sell 30 million copies at $89.99>Bankrupts studio, sold to a Foreign national's holding company, everyone fired >$5,000,000 budget>250,000 copies at $15, 750,000 more at an average of ~$7.50>Not lowest common denominator product, audience is locked in for a decade+>Doesn't set records in the market, looks like gaming is stagnant (but only financially) But none of that matters, Valve gets 10-30% depending on total sales either way.
>>724502245Long story short:Economy is in the gutter and people can't afford spending 70-90 bucks on the monthly AAA when the 1% keeps getting richer and everyone else keeps getting poorer.The utter destruction of the middle class by the hands of the "elite" means late stage capitalism has entered an irreversible collision course with total collapse, said elite is of course barricaded in their ivory towers where the echochamber of "line must go up" is still shouted all day every day but nobody realizes that the line can only go up if the lower classes have money for that.Steam being a storefront specializes in all sorts of videogames and not just AAA, which is why it can thrive, by selling games people can afford, games that are also operating outside of the sphere of the AAA elites, and taking a cut out of anything that sells, as such it's able to actually make money while EA, Ubisoft, M$ and whoever else is emhorraging money by making games noboby wants or can even afford.>inb4 B...But gamepassNobody's buying a glorified doorstop and paying yet another monthly subscription for games they won't even look sideways, people are already struggling with their netflix, amazon and whatever subscriptions, same goes for Sony and Nintendo shooting themselves in the foot yet again with their unbridled greed, even the new generations of kids would rather play genshin or fortnite on their phones than buying a Switch 2, the times have changed and the old gods are no longer appealing to the young generation, new gods have taken their place and their churches are barely held together by balding millennials on their way out.Valve has no issue with any of that, Valve is just a storefront you can install on any PC, any OS, no strings attached, no proprietary software, no empty SD cards with just a code to download a game to your actual SD card, it just works.And this is the so called "free" market you people so desperately worship after all, aren't you happy?
>>724504092You actually use those features???I just want to play games.I still don't know what big picture even is. Except that I sometimes enable it by accident, and freak out and panic and close everything.The interface is really bad too.
>>724522203>I still don't know what big picture even is.Unless you plan to use your PC as essentially a console, you can safely ignore it. It becomes useful in that instance, however, since you can boot into a (relatively) easily navigatable window with a controller.
>>724502535You don't know what rent seeking is, retard.
>>724522287Oh, so it's like Retroarch for PC games. Sounds gay.
>>724522449I wouldn't know about Retroarch, but yeah, its gay. Extremely small use case.
>>724519986>What if MS suddenly decides to lock Steam off their windows ?The EU would most likely rape them. Microsoft promoting internet explorer was already too much for them.
>>724522203I use big picture when I'm playing in the living room.
>>724502245Eastern gamesIndie gamesIt's only the utterly broken->put someone who hates the customer in charge and run every decision through a gauntlet of dunning-kruger MBAs and gay race communist commissars-AAA western model that's collapsing.
>>724523419>Stellar Blade flopped>Inzoi flopped>E33 floppedEven Chinese games can't make it.
>>724523713Delusional.
Imagine over two decades later giant multi-billion dollar corporations still can't figure out how to beat or even compete with your shitty storefront. Even the console market is starting to collapse in favor of pc gaming
>>724519532I literally said negative things, read.
>>7245022451) Valve is a completely private corporation, they have no shareholders to please. 2) Almost all of Valve's expenses is just their employees, offices, servers, internet, and electricity. Compared to most businesses, that's pretty damn low 3) Almost all of Valve's profits is turn key, meaning they don't really have to do anything except keep the servers online. They don't have to maintain a huge logistical network, produce a product, and ship it. 4) Natural monopoly. Even though Steam has competition in the digital distribution market, people still choose to use Steam, which there really isn't much the competition can do about that, even when they offer a much better deal to the customer and business partners. This allows Valve to do nothing and win. You guys have no idea how fucking lucky we are that it's set up this way. Just imagine a different corporation being in Valve's shoes, it would just plain ol' suck.
>>724524507I'd rather it be MS, so we could have DRM that wouldn't work on linux.
>>724524507It’s not lucky, they are criminals. You are supporting the wrong gaming idea, no gamer would ever want games to be locked in one place in a license that requires extra money for internet service. Get out fake gamer.
>>724524507>when they offer a much better deal to the customer As already being said 50 times, Steam is not just a store. "Deal" on itself is worthless.
>>724524676>extra money for internet serviceIn no universe can you survive without internet service already.
>>724503085>GOG>pirating executable with drm removed>emulator>playing random game released outside of "platforms" like freeware, browser, etc.All work fine.
>>724524676Digital distribution was going to happen, no matter what. Lots of publishers tried similar things in the past, like the Famicom disc system, Sega Channel, and yes there were PC game digital distribution services before Steam. Obviously they failed, but attempts were made, giving us enough proof that someone was going to be successful at it. Knowing what game publishers are like now, it's clear that Valve is by the far the best fucking option. Just imagine what EA would do, or Ubisoft, or Sierra, or Microsoft, or Apple, or Activision, or really any number of folks. Could you say for honest to God certain that any of THEM would do it better?! Yes, we got LUCKY!
>>724525085This all assumes>the game isn't worth buying>the game is pirateable>the pirated version isn't missing an important online componentI tend to support developers who give me good games, so I buy on Steam when it's worth it.
>>724525286The developers deserve to have their game pirated for using shitsteam.>oh btw, 30% of the payment goes towards killing gamesIt's reverse donation. Like instead of 30% the money going to a charitable cause it goes to a greedy evil company that is killing games.
>>724524783Yes you can with peer connections and LAN. Zoomers not understanding the concept of LAN is sad.
>>724525846He wasn't talking about vidya.
>>724525769haven't had an issue with steam in 16 years, will continue to buy games there. cope.
>>724502245It's triple A games flopping. A lot of indies are doing well and thriving.
>>724524107The biggest problem for them is that they have horrible PR. In their minds, "PR" means remaining on the good side of the institutional investors. But that's exactly why customers will never trust them to run a store that doesn't work to censor the industry and trap the customer in an abusive cage.There's no half-baked solution that can fix this. They need to realize that the "toxic gamer bros" are their customers and fire everyone who's made it their mission to go to war with them. The real pie-in-the-sky nonsense is the idea that the industry can be salvaged while the cancer is still metastasizing. Then release a string of great games. The company needs to have the reputation of Valve in the 00s. If someone in there is planning a rugpull, you haven't cleaned house enough.>>724524507I don't think that being public prevents you from running a customer-oriented business. Most of your favorite videogames were probably made by corporations. You just need to not invite bad actors onto the board. If you have some smarmy Jew from some BlackRock proxy promising you that he'll be totally hands off, don't trust him. And don't bring in some fat bitch who's a "business expert" from the fast food industry and "never thought she'd be working in gaming". Only hire people who care about gaming, know how the industry works, and are friendly with the predominantly normal heterosexual male customer base.
>>724525183They wouldn’t get sued by Australia for not offering refunds. They can’t be sued by individuals for hidden fees or agreement because that’s illegal. They wouldn’t steal patent from small companies. The gambling problem wouldn’t cause people to die because of changes to the system. German wouldn’t interfere with them to announce their ownership clause.You have zero understanding how bad Steam has became. You only care about you and not gaming in general.
>it's clear that Valve is by the far the best fucking option.lol. All this cultism isn't organic. It's your usual paid shill griftbot trying to make you conform by going "dude all this shit is totally fine haha". >Yes, we got LUCKY!It's all garbage. It's grifting. It's useless to engage. We got...lucky? The shills will spam grift reply full of false dichotomies and fallacies that go beyond common sense and are only intended to tire you out. Even if you grant the false dichotomy, no, I can't be sure at this point that this is "better". We are...lucky? For having DRM? Seriously? Our situation is "good"?? Begone.
>>724515685>the meme number been increased to a 100 bucks from 60the times... oh, how they have changed
>>724525769>has games>is somehow killing gamesImagine being retarded.
>itt steamcultistsSteam doesn't offer anything you need.It's a rent seeker. Their entire business is taking 30% from everything and putting underage gambling shit in their free to play games.In fact steam burning and crashing down would be the objectively best thing to happen to gaming in decades. Steam's reputation on the internet is beyond retarded. Steam cultists are the single worst fanbase on the world. The sheer volume of steam and valve shilling surpasses anything actual kike shills at Israel could dream of.This will get replied with shills listing retarded steam features like anyone cares. You don't even know anything about corporation you try to protect. You are parroting what jewtuber content farmers make up about Valve. You are just mad cuz you feel personally attacked when someone makes your favorite sports team I mean corporation look bad.Reply to me and seethe. Call it bait, I dare you.
>>724527063When Steam dies, be sure to have someone leave a note on my grave.
>>724527063nice bait, but I had to use origin to play battlefield 3 and fucking xfire before that, and ever since then i've been glad steam exists and has a retarded amount of the gaming market
>>724527063So which alternative do you support?
>>724527063if steam goes down, there will be a power vacumm for all thay moolah. also rough sex with Arfoire
>>724527517>False storytellingBattlefield 3 offered online communication, theres videos on it: youtube.com/watch?v=sgDjiI35n3sOnly noobs like you complain about unnecessary stuff that needs to be added.
>>724502245>Steam having record profitssteam doesn't even release their financial numbers
>>724522520>The EU would most likely rape themI heard the EXACT same thing being said about MS buying zenimax/actiblizz. newsflash retard, you can lock anyone out of your operating system whenever you want
>>724524507>they have no shareholders to please.and get they keep censoring stuff on their platform
>>724529296no you retard I mean I had to launch the game from EA's dogshit origin launcher requiring me to boot it up, log in to their dogshit program, and launch the game from it every time I wanted to play battlefieldonly zoomers like you weren't around when battlefield 3 came out
>>724530183Valve invented DRM. We used to be able to legally download every game and copy it as much as we wanted before Steam came along, sweaty. :3
>>724533467works on my machine
>>724503085You mean facebook?
>>724534316I didn't know facebook let me share my purchased games, had a controller input override, and let me stream my games to another device.
>>724519986That reminds me, what OS does most of China use?
>>724534469It has more than half the steam "useful" features tho, namely the social ones.
>>724534891Those aren't the useful features.
>>724502447You have no idea how many times my friend has been like "Oh man, WE HAVE to get this game, it looks hilarious!" cause he saw Caseoh or whoever playing it. I finally gave in and bought PEAK for our group. We played it twice and then never touched it again. I thought it was fun too, but evidently playing it isn't as great as watching a streamer overreact.
>>724534890HarmonyOS. It's just Chinese Windows.
>>724505642what is this
>>724502743>It's valve's fault because they're willing to tell you the thing all the other storefronts hide from you
>>724539045The opioid crisis is due to weak sisters getting addicted to drugs.
>>724502447I have never flocked to a penny I will let you know. A quarter, yes, but never a penny.
>>724502245You should know by now that a company having record high profits is literally only good for the CEO, the people on the board of directors, and institutional investors.
because you don't suffer from market saturation when you are the market.
because they sell thousands of games not just AAA games
>>724502245Steam is a corrupt monopoly
>>724526334Every time another company comes along and tries their hand at a steam competitor, they are way worse. That's why your autistic screeching falls on death ears, no matter how often you repeat it.
>>724530016how would MS buying actiblizz make the EU rape them?
>>724502245Because Steam is giving people something they want at a low cost (nothing) instead of charging $80 for a post-modern turd and saying how much they hate their customers
>>724539770Maybe Epic should pull their heads out if their asses if they want people to use their store.
>>724539770prove it
>>724539770>Says Timtam Tencent when he bought out Rocket League, when he bought out Fall Guys, when he bought Metro Exodus exclusivity and rugpulled everybody on Steam, when he bought out and shut down developers helping Valve with Linux porting.
Most people here are forgetting Steam gets money for every transaction on the market that’s why they let afk games like banana exist and gutted the counter strike market because the hundreds of thousands of 3 cent trades that happen every day is literally free money
>>724502535dumb fuck
>>724502245It's because they're spending Hollywood blockbuster amounts of money on development and marketing while selling average solo indie dev amounts of copies.
>>724502245>You all abandoned PC gaming in the 2000's... you all got your fancy launchers>and were did that bring you....back to me
>>724502245People are still buying games, it's just the structure of AAA game development which is failing.>>724502535Strictly speaking rent seeking implies that the service is full middleware, rather than what the customer directly interaces with. Nobody would call the entire retail sector "rent seeking" since that is retarded, and Steam is just a retailer.
>>724533467>Valve invented DRMYou mean they invented unintrusive DRM. The average DRM solution before Valve:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-wyIalhdPU
>>724540824Hard to fight steamie anti-intellectualism
>>724542252Didn't happen.
>>724502743They killed the physical games for PC. Worst tumor ever happened in videogames history.
>>724542618Imagine installing games off a disc in 2025.>100GB copied from disc in 35 minutes under optimal conditions>downloaded in under 10 minutes from Steam
>>724521240>Gaben hasn’t been controlling Steam for awhile nowI’m a bit shock that normies don’t know this info. Gaben is basically just a PR guy for steam
>>724542371>>724542567I literally don't care. If everyone who uses Steam has gotten the amount of entertainment and enjoyment out of it that I have Gabe has created and nurtured a service that has given people literally billions of hours of entertainment, if not trillions.
>>724504092Big picture is a total fucking meme
>>724542768>I don't care>replies and shills anywayi'm thinking of pirating instead
>>724542801It's simple to navigate on a TV with a gamepad.
This is the year I have bought the most vidya on launch and in general, at least since a gaming magazine in my country that sold "legit" full games for 4.99€ shut down back in the late 2000s. The thing is though, all of my purchases have been indie games or very selective AA stuff. There's a ton of cute little projects going around, they're usually cheap, and once you're done with one you can pad out the time between releases of these projects by replaying a city builder/tactics game, or playing a long RPG that's in the backlog like Undertail or whatever. There's zero reason to care about AAA releases, and the fascination this board has with those shows that most people here are normies and underage.
>>724543815>UndertailI meant Underrail man what the fuck is wrong with me
>>724543864Tell me about zis Toriel. Also, direct me to the mustard, bitte.
>>724522345>>724541773>control over 70% of the market>entrench position so that no new firms can compete>everyone in the space, even AAA, has to do business with you>extract money from them without creating anything newyeah bros, totally not rent seeking lolno matter how much you white knight for him, gay ben will not have sex with you
>>724542670Cope harder WEF drone
>>724544428>>724542371Dont care + youre a virgin
>>724545003>things are working out how I want>I'm coping>they're not working out for you>so all is goodImagine using slow, space-limited media in 2025 when the intarweb is faster.
>>724502245Steam is just an experiment to see how cucked people are willing to get before it's enough.
>>724542371>DeletedSTEAMIE JANNY MALDING
>>724502245AA and indie games, alongside the uhhh "friendslop" gamesSteam has a great variety of vidya, which means anyone can find and play a video game that they likeExcept for the anon of course, but he doesn't deserve happiness
>>724502743>game license>download game>crack purposefully thin drmwoah I own it forever now
>>724502245>AAA studio>spend $100,000,000 on development>spend $200,000,000 on middle managers to interfere with development>spend $500,000,000 on marketing>spend $700,000,000 on CEO bonus>Why can't we make a profit?>Steam>spends $15 so somebody can tap a button and turn the listing on>Why can Steam still make a profit somehow?It's kind of obvious. The two aren't investing the same time and money on getting a game listed. Steam also isn't retarded, but that's a different topic.
>>724540639when a large company gets bought foreign countries need to give their approval.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_Activision_Blizzard_by_MicrosoftIf you scroll down you can see that the EU approved it
>>724542618Why do you want physical games?
how fucking hard would it have been for epic, gog or any of the other meme launchers just to copy steams formula or do it better?all they have to do is maybe leave out user reviews since they liken it to anutha shoah
>>724548283>copy steams formula or do it better?how do you improve steams formula? and why would anyone use it over steam?
>>724502535rent seeking would be when they would sit on IP and just collect ''rent'' from it
no installer no buy
Im happy that valve is developing the radv mesa driver for my amd gpu on linux.
>>724548283It is fundamentally impossible for a public company with a modern corporate executive structure to facilitate the kind of long term planning and genuine value necessary to unseat steam.Copying steam's formula isn't enough, due to genuine good will and not having a constant need to fuck over their customers to meet KPIs every couple of years. That's why the primary offensive avenue for years has been these indian shill threads desperate to make you hate steam for... some reason.Additionally it's neither cheap nor easy. Despite what timmy says on twitter, 30% is not actually unreasonable margin for steam to take; steam's global CDN carries a lot more large-volume transfers to actual consumers than pretty much any non-FAANG company, which is not cheap. That CDN is also essentially the only scaling cost to selling a new videogame too after development is finished.Gog was the only one with any kind of shot and they couldn't abandon their principles without losing all credibility and they couldn't compete without abandoning their principles.
>>724542618it's not their fault retard, that's what consumers wanted
>>724548283>how fucking hard would it have beenyoure a fucking midwit
>>724549362>b-b-but what about-Doesn't matterPeople like steam.Your niche shill issues aren't real and simply do not affect anybody. Nobody cares.
>>724549362>>724549436On second thought, the better way to put it is that none of that matters in the face of actually providing a good service. It's all people actually care about.
>>724549362They can do whatever they want with their private property and even with all those things you posted customers still prefer Steam over it's publicly traded competitors. I have never been so pro individual liberty as I am today.
>>724549492what fucking service?
>>724549598Selling games without fucking their consumers over.>b-b-but what about [shit that doesn't matter]No.
>>724549598Steam is a service you disingenuous commie.
>>724549657>A service requires you to do shit other than being a middle manRetail and CDN are both meaningful services
>>724549638>without fucking their consumers over.>steammore lies
>>724549697I have never been harmed by any of Steam's actions in literally any wayOn the contrary, they've provided a stable platform for me to buy my games on for almost two decades.
>>724549657>serving 84Tbps of downloads is not a serviceWhy is it always the Aqua posters?
>>724549673>Steamie thinks valve has the competency or manpower to set up their own CDNGoogle Akamai. That's where you download your steam games comes from.You don't even know anything about corporation you are shilling on the internets, fucking stupid don't you think anon?
>>724549756Who the fuck used steam to buy online games before 2010s shill?
>>724549784>SteamieThank you for revealing you're simply working under the playbookUnfortunately for you, I have no intention to continue interacting with an jeet shill
>>724502245There are other games than AAA.
>>724549850People who were born before 2003, zoomie
>Thank you for->ACK!steamdro.nesteam.cucksteamcultiststeamiecry about it bitch
>>724549673I never asked to have my legally purchased physical copies come with a code that only allows the game to be installed via steam, if that's your idea of retail then get real
>>724502245>spend years wrecking every brand with DEI>"aCkShUaLlY DEI makes games sell better and improves efficiency!!”>few years later>“wHy aReN’t nEw gAmEs sEllInG aNyMoRe?!?!” aaaaaaa"
>>724549850Anyone white and playing PC games in the late 00's.
>>724502245Everybody has enough of a library, many across multiple ecosystems that they can buy any game that isn't multiplayer and needs a strong playerbase on their own schedules and when the game gets low enough that they'll buy it on PC, they buy it on steam. If the publishers don't like not selling at launch they need to lower the prices.
>>724549850I started in 2007.
>>724502535Using other people's 100 million + userbase who have been trained to purchase video games is always safer and more profitable than building your own storefront, nigger.
>>724521924You're retarded. Everyone in that tower knows that. They are the biggest proponents of communism because it means that the government forces the public to continue to pay for their products.
Oh boy another astroturfed steam hate thread even though 99.9% of people posting in this thread also have steam on their system
>>724550008I never asked physical copies to come with non-functional DRM, cost arbitrarily more, all in the name of an objectively worse product.
>>724549996>>724550035Thanks for normalizing my drm cancer store goyim. I couldn't do it without you.Now make sure to tell Aqua poster how much of a loser he is for not consooming steam deck
>>724550123Why are you trying to force the DRM angle on people that evidently were around in the 00's and know how insanely bullshit that is?
>>724550123Thanks for being poor. Try not being poor and this won't bother you, poorfag.
>goyim spend money on keys or you are poor
>>724550270>be a passive aggressive bitch or someone will know you responded and say mean things to youShouldn't you have killed yourself when your knife and glove stocks went through the floor?
>>724539203Based Jew chad /kneel
>>724550351Good goyim, keep fighting the good fight
>>724503085The sad truth is that it's borderline impossible because unlike Valve, all their competitors are publicly traded companies which requires them to nickel and dime everything.
>>724550123>buy a physical game>box says it needs XP or Vista to run>on disc DRM checks my OS before running the installer>my windows 7 is not good enough>the fucking DRM doesn't even attempt to install it>pirated copy worksAh yes, the good old DRM-less pre-Steam days.
>>724550486Why are you insane? Is it the lack of fluoride?
>>724550883>calls people goys>then calls them jewsDo you know what a goy is? I'll give you a hint: you're not one.
>>724503478yes nigger take this as an example, no matter how many times I turn this option off, it gets turned back on automatically on next boot.
>>724502447>t. Seething Ubislop shill
>>724550098NTA but the fusion of corporations and state is facism not communism.
>>724503085It's hard to get an install base of 70 million and even if you do, I'm going with the store that has 140 million potential customers.
If we could ban everyone who doesn't have a 500+ game Steam account, discussion would be much better here.
>>724551267No they're the same thing. Fascism is just doing it for good purposes. It's all the same power structure.>N-nuh uhOkay, stop paying for goods in your gay communist>Um there's no money thoughthen stop working. You'll find out soon enough things still cost money whether you have a right to ask how much or you get shot for it
>>724551542In Communism there is no corporation its all just the state balancing what it feels is fair redistribution.
>>724551542>for good purposes
>>724522203>You actually use the feature that lets you combine the game libraries of your friends???Uh, yeah. Why the fuck wouldn't I?
>>724542618>"If Valve didn't exist we wouldn't have a digital marketplace!"I love this meme. As if some other company wouldn't come up with the idea.
>>724551636Yes that's what nationalizing is. The government, normally at the behest of the most powerful, takes ownership of a company's assets and market then forces you to pay the. for their goods and services if choosing to pay is even a right you get at all.
>>724502245steam is gamblingsales that made ppl go if its not 2.99 no point in buyingso much bs slop that gets brought an AI porn game was a top seller
>>724543864your a fag
>>724502245>Steam having record profitsnot anymore
>>724517175>2009 was 16 years ago
>>724502245AAA games are stupidly expensive to produce. Valve, on the other hand, just collects 30% of every revenue and barely makes any games.
>>72450274395% of my library are f2p games
>>724502447>people are having fun with their friends and spending their income how they choose>friendless and poor, the anon hurts itself in its confusionsad many such cases
>>724548283Nearly impossible because (other than GoG) they are all publicly traded companies. The notion of providing some kind of forward-thinking process will eternally be hampered by low-IQ shareholders being fed messages by low-IQ corporate heads. Steam being a privately-owned company is the eternal bulwark against your usual corporate lobotomy that seems to make every single product progressively worse as time passes. The simple truth is that if you owned one of these companies evaluated at the tens of billions mark, just saying "We're going to make Steam, but BETTER!" isn't enough for the kikes that would inject their finances into the project. They need to see almost immediate ROI or they will ignore anything you say and suggest to one another that you don't know what you're talking about.
>>724502245AAA is hitting the hard and fast $70 barrier for most people.
>>724540174>falls on death ears
>>724502535You're acting like Steam doesn't provide a service, they help facilitate a bunch of bullshit that no developer wants to deal with. Rent seeking is what Apple tries to do where they deliberately lock down their platform so they can charge money for doing literally nothing. I don't mean to glaze Gabe but what Valve does is hardly rent seeking behaviour.
>>724549019AMD is for gaming, Nshitia is for AI slop.
>>724545003console physical hinges upon the built in drm that comes with the osyou either own your pc and crack your software in 10 seconds or you're a retarded consoloid that allows some corpo to have a closed box in your house because you can't see beyond the obsolete utility of discs
>>724534890windows with a skin job
>>724519986microsoft will generate an obscene amount of bad press and everyone will start installing linux because in the end people trust valve, not microsoftall the spyware games lift their shit overnightthis would be legitimate suicide for microsoft now, the only thing linux lacks is some professional software and that would be easy as shit to port
>>724502245they are a private company and are not beholden to the shareholder jew
>>724538536It isn't just Chinese windows it is built upon a proprietary kernel developed by Huawei from scratch, there are no Windows, Linux, or Apple code in the kernel. There is a built-in ABI for Linux syscalls which is necessary for running Linux (Android) apps on a non-Linux kernel.
Post this image in every steamshill thread
>>724567891>Harvard drop outYeah he "dropped out" right into employment as a technical executive at Microsoft and developed the first versions of Windows. I always hate these "drop out" stories that are just exceptionally good developers getting poached before they even graduate, Gabe could have easily stayed and got a doctorate from Harvard if he wanted to.
>>724568173Gabe wasn't exceptional thoughHe couldn't even code a fucking moss to hl2
