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>Darktide is apparently getting another new class with a reveal next month
So this game takes ages to release, finally does release, is dogshit for 2 or 3 years, and starts getting good this year. The fuck was taking them this long?
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That's the Fatshark way baby.
Same thing happened with VT2.
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>>724537736
>So this game takes ages to release, finally does release, is dogshit for 2 or 3 years, and starts getting good this year.
yes, it's a fatshart game
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>>724537736
how quickly everyone forgot about vt2's release
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wow more paid dlc that should be in the base game content. I assume the game still only has like 5 maps they expect you to grind infinitely too. fuck fatshit. fuck all swede devs actually they have never once not let me down
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>>724537785
Was VT2 bad on release? All I remember was Winds of Magic almost killed the game.
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>>724537736
snow
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>>724538010
>I assume the game still only has like 5 maps they expect you to grind infinitely too
There's more now than release.
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>>724537948
>>724538163
VT2's release wasn't as bad as Shopclick's but Darktide has yet to have an update as bad as WoM.
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>>724538163
Didn't play it on release but from what I heard it was very incomplete and buggy and it took a year to get good.
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Did they ever add the IG helmet that has the shades?
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Is Darktide finally worth checking out?
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>>724538447
no lol
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>>724537736
Still not buying it
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>greatsword
>scrier's
>EP assail
>purge staff in case i fuck up
>macro to send the scoreboard to chat (for the consolekiddies)
yep it's gaming time
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>>724538447
at this point, I'd say so.
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>>724538403
yeah. you want it youll have to pay. except you can't cause its on rotation. when is it back? who knows!
(this game has made me hate paid cosmetics, there is NOTHING for free players to earn)
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>>724539171
Didn't they stop doing the cash shop rotation?
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>>724539252
lol
lmao
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>>724538447
It's okay, but the highest difficulty is almost impossible to do with randoms. I did it back on release of the new high difficulty, got the penance, but it took ages. I thought maybe I was fucking up so I downloaded the scoreboard mod and nope. Most people are absolute shitters. I was consistently highest everything and basically carrying people across the finish. Did it again only a month back with friends who also wanted the penances, we did it in only a day. Easy as fuck. So unless you have friends who will use mics and talk to you and tell you what they see and what they're doing, don't bother.
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What can you even add as a new class? I feel like anything interesting would be too much of a stretch
Ratlings?
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I kind of wish they add new enemy faction before adding new class, gen genestealers would be best choice. And maybe do some balance around crushers ? they are so much of threat half of the weapons in game are unusable because they are usless against crushers
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>>724539836
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>>724537736
Anything Tech Priest related and I'm happy
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>>724539890
Nah. That would be too good for lazy swedes. I'm almost sure they will pick some boring option like hive ganger or somesuch.
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>>724539836
It is extremely likely to be Sororitas based on some in-game lines I can't remember. I don't think it's a good thing since there will be big overlap with zealot, but it's most likely that.
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>>724539252
There are cosmetics you haven't been able to purchase for over a year. Shit is beyond retarded praying on fomo.
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>>724540416
This, they would have to make new models for skitarii's or eldars and thos fags are to lazy to make, proper female human model
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>>724539836
we already stretched the hole with arbys
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>>724540570
We already have Mars niggas in the game, assets are there. But they would need entirely new animations.
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>>724537736
Its a shame this game is so fucking ugly. Ugly non existent design in an ugly setting, every map is basically indistinguishable.
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>>724538163
No it was still very good, it had a lot of bugs that were either hilarious or ironically added a lot of unintended difficultly like special duplicate spawns or patrols spawning right in your face
Shitters will call it bad, I call it fun
>>724538269
Buggy and rough around the edges but very fun
People who had shitty computers got filtered so they took to 4chan to shit on it (friend of mine did that)
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>>724537736
swede devs, swedes are known to be the laziest motherfuckers on earth
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>>724538010
The only paid dlc so far are the classes. All new maps and the horde mode have been free. VT2 made you buy everything for the first 2 or 3 years. Do you have brain damage?
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>>724537736
Please understand. Swedish brains only can fully function 3 months out of the year due to snow.
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>>724538447
It's always been worth checking out and its gotten significantly better. With any game that has a lot of replay value most of the bitching you see boils down to autists playing for 14 hours a day 7 days a week then calling the game shit because they ran out of things to do.
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>>724537736
working on the console release
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>>724538268
mortis trials are pretty damn close
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>>724540760
This is undeniably true. DT released with big issues and they still took their annual 6 week vacation right after release.
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>>724540695
>every map is basically indistinguishable.
Absolutely which is even worse when you compare it to all the diverse locations in V2
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>>724539839
>why are half of the weapons ineffective against half of the enemies
At this point you should've realized that this is not just random and that it is literally a skill issue. Yes, this is by design, because weapon classes exist. Why do you think there are no laser weapons with suppression and why do you think they are super effective against half of the enemies, but not against the other unless it's a crit, while Kinetic weapons are a middle ground with suppresion, or why Explosive weapons always only deal big CC/Debuffs instead of immeidate screen clear? Why do you think all the melee cleave weapons excell at clearing horde but fall off against elite, and why do you think single target armor piercing weapons are great against elite but really awful against horde (including the duelling sword)? Just stop trying to play on Havoc +25 if you think every weapon type should have the same potential and just stay on a difficulty you're comfortable with where you don't have to think. It's not like you get anything for ascending on havoc. You can just shoot into hordes on H15 with any weapon you want and do whatever you want, why do you want to take away one of the few strategic elements of the game just because you pick your shit based on how cool it is instead of how effective it is in your team composition?
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>>724539836
admonition cultist (very good at hiding in plain sight)
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>>724540695
>Ugly non existent design in an ugly setting, every map is basically indistinguishable.
That's just 40k in general
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>>724538163
It was fun but it had lots of jank with enemy animations, weapon cleave, lots of problems with stagger, so it was just really frustrating to play on a high difficulty because getting hit just felt so arbitrary most of the time. They tried to fix it and made it worse, then it took like a full year of infrequent back and forth changes for them to actually make it better than it was at launch.
Thats how I remember it anyways.
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>>724541035
is this pasta?
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>>724541035
>single target armor piercing weapons are great against elite but really awful against horde
*laughs in brutal momentum*
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>>724541056
All they had to do was set the game outside of a hive city or a spaceship for at least most missions and it would be fine.
Hell they couldve done better designing the maps even in the hive city, but the level design is just ass and full of nondescript corridors.
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>>724541056
Only if you're retarded. There's literally billions of locations in 40k and if the swedes weren't so fucking stupid they'd have made a few of the fun ones.
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>>724539836
My money is on combat servitor, which opens up opportunity for heavy plasma/bolter/etc.
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>>724541035
>>why are half of the weapons ineffective against half of the enemies
Nigga why are you making the shit up ?
ffs i said my problem is with CRUSHERS not fuckin weapons, the fact that big part of whether i should use weapon or not is determined by one fuckin enemy is my problem.
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>>724537736
Nobody wants to play as some personalityless lobotomite
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>>724541035
I think this issue veers beyond weapon balance into the realm of faulty game design. Cleave weapons are always gonna be garbage compared to single target armor piercing because of the sprint button and the inherent buffer of toughness.
In vermintide you had to engage with the fact that you couldn't outrun the wave of rats and sometimes you needed it to get a secure amount of health back. In darktide anyone turning around to deal with the wave spawning behind them is basically griefing.
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>>724541334
>heavy bolter
I hope so, the sm2 one is kinda disappointing so it would be nice to see one that really fucks up a wave.
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>>724537736
I have never played a worse horde shooter. RPG grind mechanics that gate away your firepower in a genre all about firepower vs. giant hordes is gayest fucking thing I've ever seen. Any horde shooter that does this is instant 0/10 ass garbage, and Dartide does it to the fucking extreme

>Grind a character to 30
>Grind your weapon to max stats with the RNG modifiers you want over and over
>Grind you gay little trinkets until you get the RNG modifiers you want over and over
>Levels are somehow simultaneously linear but also empty and wide open, because they hide grinder materials in the corners of these vast open pockets of nothing to keep you mindlessly busy for the grind
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Did they ever fix the duelist sword being the best weapon by far in almost every meaningful category or is that shit still going on. Fucking thing shouldve stayed pysker only, at least that way it was balanced.
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>>724541334
would be cool if they gave it tank treads and removed its ability to dodge
still not giving them more money tho
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>>724537736
they also gonna charge for it like the Arbites? I still remember when they promised all new classes would be free because of the cash shop
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>>724541593
I think it got some insignificant nerf, but it's still undisputed top-1 melee weapon.
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>>724541694
you should know by now that those swedes aren't to be trusted
>promise to stop work on console development
>work on console development
when are you going to learn?
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>>724541694
They lied.
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>>724541530
Youre not wrong. Ive been playing since vt1 and Ive hated the leveling from the start, its just plain retarded for a co-op game. I dont want to drag my friends through hell they cant even play in, or force myself to play weenie puff jr mode to level them, let alone level multiple characters myself.
It took them god damn forver but at least they fixed the loot problem and there's at least a definite end to it now.
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>>724537736
I don't care about classes, I want new god damn missions and preferably not in mirrored versions of existing maps. Challenge level: Impossible, yeah I know
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>>724537736
Vermintide will remain the superior game, no matter how hard you seethe about it.
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>>724541712
Fucking sad. For a co-op game they dont really try to make it meaningful at all. No build or weapon variety needed since you can fucking annihilate everything with a duelist sword and just good movement
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>>724541530
>>724541712
Duelling sword is fucking gay. Gay little swishy animations with zero impact.
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Do Swedes realise they'd sell more cosmetics if they made the characters attractive?
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>vermintide 2 is getting one of the kinoest levels of vermintide 1 remastered in high quality
>darktide is getting an announcement for AN ANNOUNCEMENT and a new boring event
lol
lol
LOL
LMAO
ROFL
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>>724542034
Probably. Also I don't believe they haven't noticed that 95% of people who pick female characters use exactly the same face — the only one that doesn't look like a face of crack addict.
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>>724541712
as i understand it, the dueling sword was "nerfed", but then the hp of certain elites (particularly crushers and maulers) was inflated, and because the dueling sword still hits necessary breakpoints to delete these enemies whatever nerf it got wrapped around into being a buff because of the enemy changes
also it can cleave hordes now
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>>724542220
Duelling sword cannot cleave hordes
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>>724541984
Its gay as fuck but its a fucking buzzsaw with a DPS no other weapon can even come close to, with good AP, and very high movement, which are the only things that even matter. Even the things its not great at, its good at, it has no downsides.
But fatshark doesnt give a fuck about the weapon balance anymore because its skub.
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>>724542306
It has more than enough cleave and stagger, for what else you get with it. The fact that it very reliably kills multiple enemies with every hit, something almost no other weapon can do, makes the need for cleave more unnecessary since you can just decapitate enemies as quickly as they can come at you.
Its fucking sad how long it takes to deal with hordes with othwr weapons, enemies take so many god damn hits to die othwrwise.
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>>724542490
What difficulty are you playing? Cleave means you decapitate two ragers, cleave through brutes and then kill three poxies behind them in one swing.
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>>724541035
>including the duelling sword
Dueling sword destroys hordes, just not as strongly as it rapes everything else.
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>>724542220
the hp buff to crushers did nerf the ds a little bit
you can no longer destroy a pack of havoc 40 crushers with a 0 talent point veteran in 30 seconds.

but that also means that all the other weapon options are even worse now since a full talent build DS still turns crushers into poxies

the powercreep got even worse and I'm getting tired of only having 3 real options for ranged and melee out of the 30+ weapons in the game
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What is it about VT combat that makes it feel so much better than DT, when the latter is still objectively more polished?

This really bothers me, because there doesn't seem to be a clear reason for it.
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>>724543380
Hordes' density. VT2 hordes feel like actual hordes.
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>>724543380
Stamina matters in VT2. Weapons have more elaborate flowcharts instead of just spamming.
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>>724538163
On the one hand, the maps were significantly better and balance leaned more towards some classes being OP rather than others being shit, though shields were absolutely terrible.
On the other, the update drought was just as bad, and the first few weeks had some really shitty bugs like phantom attacks making Slayer effectively unplayable.
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>>724543380
The melee weapons feel similar enough although Vt2 still has more variety, also DT messes up your flow of combat constantly by having have the horde being ranged characters. That's one of the reasons I quit playing, I couldn't stand the fact that ranged enemies spawn in with the same number and frequency of melee mobs, the constant chipping away just made the whole experience more annoying than it should.
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>>724543380
you're constantly interrupted from horde clearing (the real fun is) by waves and waves of deadly specials that you absolutely cannot ignore and armored elites that also fuck up your rhythm by constantly hitstopping your cleaves.

and the rate at which specials and elites are sent at you is significantly higher than vermintide's
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>>724538268
>shopclick
LMFAO. i thought ratclick was the funniest community pet name for a game but this is better
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>>724537736
Imagine snu snu death from a female ogryn.
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>>724543913
vomit inducing
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>>724543824
I think the armored enemies are the crux of the issue, yeah. A chaos warrior in VT can be dangerous, sure, but it doesn't demand attention like the big guys do in DT.
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>>724544101
What about death from starvation, by a ratling that keeps stealing all your rations?
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>>724543824
Between the armoured specials, the ranged specials, the armoured ranged specials and ranged mobs there is barely a normal mob to fight anymore.
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>>724543913
I read all the quoted lines with the Brawler's voice.
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>>724544173
>>724544210
yep
"bugged" beta/release damnation was when the game was at its funnest
just an endless wave of pozwalkers from start to finish with the occasional mauler/crusher spam
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>>724539692
Yeah havoc 40 is cancer that stuffs you into a meta box where only like one build and weapon per class is viable unless you're pre partied with some god gamers. I got my title for it and haven't touched it since
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>>724544338
Death from burning promethium, because a catachan jungle fighter accidently roasted you with her flamer?
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>>724541786
ye i abandoned darktide after playing it like 10 hours but this is the worst part about vermintide; introducing a friend to it damns you to spending dozens — if not hundreds — of hours bored to tears in babyland mode for them to level up, or have your friend drop the game cause theyre not having fun being dead all the time and watching you sweatlord carry a team of 2 unoptimized bots and a dead friend in legend. it literally took 300 fucking hours to level all 5 heroes to max level back when i started. at least they made it significantly faster recently but still.
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>>724543913
NEED to have my pelvis crack from her riding me
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>>724539836
Techpriest pet class with summonable combat servitors and turrets
Hive Ganger drug dealer with mini stims and traps
Squat mercenary to reuse Bardin's rigs and animations
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>starts getting good this year
not really. they released a new mode that no one plays and zero new maps this year.
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Female custodes in game when?
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>>724543913
Nothing brings me more pleasure than hitting a charging berserker right in the face with a grenade box, makes me chuckle every time
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>>724545704
Yeah the game does have some great moments, it's just surrounded by too much slog.
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>>724545575
$29.99 plus tip
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Last time I played was when the talent tree got reworked into a proper tree and Veterans ran around clearing the whole map with Plasma while shouting +250 toughness for everyone.
Apparently you can now craft your own weapons instead of shopclicking? What am I in for if I reinstall?
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>>724537736
I hope it's mechanicus themed. I wanna play a skittering technomillipede bristling with mechadendrites.
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The new character is an ork freebooter
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>>724546234
They’ve changed most of the trees to get rid of the more annoying early node talent taxes that railroaded builds.
Now they’re based around opportunity costs rather than getting effectively locked into one branch
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>>724546397
would never happen
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>>724546234
The shopclicking was mostly replaced with a mastery system, an exp/level system that lets you install better perks/blessings and raise the stats of the weapon the higher mastery you have. Whatever blessings you have unlocked already will give you starting mastery levels, of course that doesn't apply to new weapons. Even if you have low mastery, your existing weapons are untouched; you just can't slap new blessings on them until you've unlocked the blessings again through the mastery menu. Mastery can be grinded manually through missions, or by sacrificing your bricked weapons to Hadron (same weapon type awards more mastery).
You can also now max out all your weapons' stats, limited by mastery, but stat caps are still randomized meaning you'll still have to do a little shopclicking to get a grey weapon with the right stat distribution, but afterwards you can fully upgrade it to max stats and whatever blessings/perks you want.
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>>724546285
No member of the Mechanicus would find themselves judged by the Inquisition. They are practically half the Imperium and they don't let other factions interfere in their business.
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>>724537736
Best and/or most fun builds for the classes?
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>>724546930
The Inquisition still makes use of techpriests, as does every imperial faction, and it wouldn't be below the Mechanicus to throw one of their own under the bus if it served their interests.
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>>724546530
I wouldn't be so sure. Inquisitors can make use of xeno auxiliaries, and one is in charge of this operation, innit?

Though I guess you're right that Fatshart wouldn't have the balls.
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>>724546853
>now that you grinded your character to max level we need you to grind your weapons to max level before you can start playing the game
Sasuga
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>>724547143
>Though I guess you're right that Fatshart wouldn't have the balls.
pretty much. they would also never be able to balance it right to make it FUN because all their gay cumguzzlers would complain about it being OP
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>>724546930
What? Tech priests aren’t stupid, they know that if they fuck around too much without backing or leverage then the inquisition is going to come knocking.
If an Inquisitor throws their weight around they’ll capitulate unless they have a really good reason to tell them to fuck off.
Even the most autistic magos won’t bother picking a fight with the inquisition over an individual tech priest, especially when they can leverage it to get a favour out of the inquisition.
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>>724537736

>game still runs like shit
>most maps are still a different grade of "grey industrial color and setpiece"
>everyone in the voxs still insult you and if they don't it's some of the cringiest dialogues you'll hear like shipmistress favorite bonobo or a noble parody
>the spawn randomly grabs you because the server netcode is terrible, you need mods to reduce the input eating
>it's either a cakewalk or the director spamming 25 netters at the same time

Just come home ratman
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>>724541530
That's sounds like VT2, except VT2 gave you the loot automatically upon copleting the level.
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>>724547080
They make use of techpriests of course but I would assume the AdMech wouldn't like any other faction hold judgement on their own. They guard all their secrets jealously
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>>724541420
>the fact that big part of whether i should use weapon or not is determined by one fuckin enemy is my problem
This was the same in VT2. Every build comes down to two key points:
>Can I kill Chaos Warriors easily
>Can I kill Specials easily at a distance
If you don't cover one base then you need to trust that your teammates will pick up your slack, which is not always reliable.
Everything beyond that is a non-issue that can be compensated for with skill and alertness.

But even in DT, skill isn't enough sometimes because there's a ton of little annoying systems that wear you down through the way of "death by a thousand cuts". With hitscan ranged enemies everywhere (roll the dice on taking damage) and almost every defensive option being tied to the same resource (stamina), so it's a lot easier to get overwhelmed up close.
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no solo mode with bot teammates, no play. simple as. its been years now of them saying 'yeah maybe we'll add it'

i will not buy it until then. i used them constantly in vermintide 2 so i didn't have to rely on late night queues, and salty faggots.
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>>724547375
Tech priests and Magi hold many secrets in their bodies alone. The Admech wouldn't want any of their own to be under lock and key of any other faction. They would want to take care of punishments and compensations themselves.
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>>724548000
I can see them not really giving a shit if the Inquisition takes a Skitarii, odds are they're just vat grown with nothing but combat routines stamped into their brain anyway, little better than a servitor.
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>>724541310
and yet he keeps buying lmao what a retard
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>>724548104
>please no coop in my coop it gives me anxiety
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>>724548306
good piggy, consume the gaas slop
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>>724548104
Darktide does have bots
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>>724548337
but am having fun. Am able to play and dare I say communicate with randos, you want a solo mode? Go play solo games my guy
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>>724548164
The vast majority of inquisitors wouldn’t even know how what to look for, let alone how to decipher technotheology, and the admech knows it. They also know that if they try they’ll spend the rest of their lives relying solely on hereteks, which won’t be very long because other inquisitors will hunt them down themselves for being so stupid.
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>>724548104
yeah us single player players are a small minority but not being able to play missions from the start at my own pace is the one thing above all that keeps me in vermintide. i actually think darktide is so much cooler aesthetically that i could look past everything else, but i cant look past not having solo games. i loathe how it drops you in the middle of a run with literally no way of making sure you get to do the map from the beginning, and its hard to learn the maps and what to do in the events when the rest of your team rushes forward and completes the events for you. when i play vermintide with real people i always host because i cant stand joining a run in the middle of it
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>>724548373
are you illiterate?
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>>724548663
Do you smash alt+f4 the picosecond anybody joins?
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>>724548702
????
yes there are bots in darktide. no, there is no SOLO PLAY WITH BOTS. you cannot start a private game unless you have a premade friend. in vermintide you can start a private game alone, thus, SOLO with bots. thats the problem for us. we dont want anyone to join, and we dont want to join anyone elses game. wtf do you not understand?
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>>724548770
I guess I just failed to understand that you're a schizoid
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>>724548770
>he's deflecting the question
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If you havent done at least a havoc 40 then watch your tone with me.
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>>724537736
FUCK FATSHARK
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what happened to the vermintide 2 bots who use your own build and equipment?
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>>724548390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwBfGQJhDT8
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>>724548104
coming any time now
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>>724548810
if preferring single player over multiplayer makes a person schizoid then sure, whatever dude

>>724548823
the question of do i alt+f4 when someone joins? maybe i simply elected to ignore the completely retarded mouthbreather question. no, i dont, and i dont need to, because i play vermintide where i can make private games
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>>724548924
? nothing? they made it better, you can give them their own builds now so that they dont switch to whatever you used last, or you can elect to have them do just that like they used to
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>>724540695
It's actually very intricate, the shithole look is essentially hive city 101 design for 40k.
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Darktide is an extremely fucking fun game, i got like 400 hours in it.
The absolute carnage and chaos on higher difficulties reminds me of DOOM Eternal, a game i absolutely love 100/100.

The faster, more insane and chaotic it is, the better.
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>>724549120
This is specifically a multiplayer game, if they add solo mode, then fine, but if they don't, then you should just move on instead of forthing at the mouth at the mere prospect of having to interact with a person that almost certainly won't talk anyway.

Yes, being this averse to social interaction literally makes you a schizoid. That's one of the biggest tells of the disorder.
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>>724548306
I want to be shit in private until I'm not shit.
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>>724541501
If its good they wont add it.
That's why there's no melta in any form in the game.
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>>724549159
and yet they never appear unless you can't find a matchmaking game? so it has changed a lot.
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>>724549250
>make coop game
>also make ingame challenges where you have to play solo
>with no way of making solo lobbies
great design fatsharkkun
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>>724549368
No argument there, but that's not your problem is it?
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>>724549414
fuck fatshark for lying about solo mode (amongst many other things)
and fuck you for being such a cocksucker
I don't care about solo, they just lie like they breathe and their shitty bugged games are full of stupid design decisions like above
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>>724548104
Nobody gives a fuck about you fuckers, the game isn't designed for solo play, the bots can't deal with all of the ranged threats effectively and they always get shit on.
If you just wanna play sedition then that's already basically a single player experience since barely anyone plays that. I'm the most schizoid motherfucker on Earth and I don't really care because it's fun to join aurics in progress and essentially saving and carrying the match on your own, that's the true solo experience.

Also if you really REALLY want to play solo there are PC mods that let you, but it sucks unless you're using a cheese rat build on either vet or zealot.
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>>724549174
Same, i always play with a buddy and we always fuck around with build instead of being meta and somehow always get out alive of Auric.
Game fixes and updates might be slow as shit but the game is solid and fun to mess around right now
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>>724549491
>I don't care about solo
>>724548104 uhhh?
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>>724549525
>the game isn't designed for solo play
it is, retard
they decided some of the challenges would only work solo without giving any way to play solo
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>>724549525
darktide is friendslop. vermintide was also multiplayer, and yet it had amazing bots. get over it faggot. never buying this game until they are added.
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>>724538010
>me when I parrot /v/ talking points from 3 years ago about a game I never played despite them all being 100% invalid at this point in time
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>>724549548
that's not me retard
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>>724549619
darktide carried some bugs and issues from the very first vermintide and created new ones in the process too
way to out yourself as a newfag
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>>724549585
It literally isn't retard, you could always complete the challenges in multiplayer matches, AND they made them piss easy to do like over a year ago so your argument is outdated.
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>>724549751
no, some of them are private only because they were so retardedly designed they decided it was best to simply gatekeep them instead of reworking them like they should
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>>724537736

I'm a guy who likes kino games. Darktide looks like it's kino. With the update I shall try it.
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>>724537736
I do not give a fuck about new classes. The game desperately needs content.
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>>724540416
This. Arbites was probably the worst choice possible. Not expecting any better.
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>>724541056
>>724541250
>>724549163
Necromunda hired gun is a game set in a hive city where every level feels very distinct. Fatshark just doesn't get it.
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>>724542095
Fatshark are a bunch of old fantasy grogs who resent 40k, you can't change my mind on this.
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>>724537736
The lack of an offline mode and a mission selector (and thus an unified, consistent replayable storyline) made the game uninspired slop, significantly worsened by the fact that every bit of the game is (was) pure RNG with very little base content beyond pity unlocks.
I have absolutely no idea how can people stomach a GaaS live-service Vermintide with worse writing, worse graphics, worse levels, and with almost no relevant progression other than number get bigger. And of course at least FIFTEEN TIMES the microtransactions.
And if you dare point this out in the general, you get immediately accused of being one of their thread personalities and dogpiled like there's no tomorrow.
I suspect everyone knows how absolutely dogshit Darktide still is almost 3 years later; and thus it's easier to immediately dismiss anything reminding them of such as an invisible boogeyman, sent there by the (insert thing i dont like) to ruin my fun.
It's such a shame because the game could've been so much better than Vermintide, and yet it's still barely limping around while the latter is getting showered in free updates made by a small, but passionate team.
I can't believe I was excited for what became a waiting simulator at the mission terminal\gun vendor\group finder with everyone pigged out with MTX.
I am sad and disappointed. At least Vermintide 2 is about to get its 10th free map DLC since Darktide came out in 2022.
And before you ask, Darktide received 4. 6 if we count the reskins.
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>>724548337
what a way to try to repackage being a timid beta.
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>>724537736
Will they have time to click upload on the new content before their 8 week Christmas holidays?
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>>724549610
I've played Darktide with no friends for over 1k hours, it definitely isn't friendslop and there's a whole subgenre of darktide clips based on essentially clutching on the hardest difficulty after your entire pug team dies, and it's the best experience the game can offer ironically.
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I don't play friendslop.
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>>724544101
It's [current year] Anon, no one will get mad at you for being a homo.
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>>724550382
you need to understand once and for all that just because fantasy players like 40k, that doesn't mean the opposite is also true.
darktide reeled in a lot of complete newfags of the tide genre, eager to shower their newfound "god game" developers with money while ignoring the warnings of the old fags
since they have always been significantly louder and obtuse than ratfags (who have been playing tideshit since 2014), a lot of the disgruntled veterans moved back to ratclick and entrenched themselves
only one of those 2 groups got rewarded, and the other is permanently hopelessly impotently seething at the other.
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>>724550649
>the other is permanently hopelessly impotently seething
...Shall I post my collection, then?
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>>724550649
Fantasy player and 40k players had a long standing animosity.
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>>724550747
Oh wait, there was a new blogpost a week ago nvm lol
I need to make a new compilation.
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>>724550823
....why are they like this?
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>>724546397
This would actually make me reinstall and start playing the game again.
>Flashgit
>Kommando
>Weirdboy or Beast Snagga (i.e. feral berserker) Boy?
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>>724550382
>I am sad and disappointed. At least Vermintide 2 is about to get its 10th free map DLC since Darktide came out in 2022.
nigga the game is literally their pet project
they will never fucking abandon it because it's what they wanted to make as their dream game
they got bought off by the chinks years ago, and thats when they were tasked to make a 40k version
and it seems the whipcracks weren't loud enough
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>>724537736
The new class is Corsair, with their Fleet being hired on by Grendel with a vague and dubious payment.
This is primarily due to a push by GW to promote Corsairs before their upcoming tabletop model wave, as GW only views Warhammer games as a means of advertising their own shit.
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Can't believe those cunts really released a pvp mod, it was just a joke. And look at that: already dead except for ruskie or chink cheaters
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>>724551104
they won't make vt3 because it will invevitably be more bugged and have less qol than vt2, while having much less content
fatshark are hacks
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>>724551216
no point in making vt3 when they can keep on milking darksissies forever
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>>724546397
Imagine the banter, especially between ork and ogryn
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>>724546397
When you buy weapons from vendors it's all a pile of junk, the components of it decide what kind of weapon your greenskin will build out of it. The stats and handling of the weapon will always be the same but the look and 3d model of it will always be somewhat RNG'd since the lad can't keep from tinkering with it (use BL2's system of having different weapon parts).
>>724551172
Deldar? I'd be ok with it, just because it's something of a novelty. Deldar has always been a red-headed stepchild of a faction, despite the occasional cool model like Wyches, Wracks, Grotesques, Mandrakes and Parasite Engines.
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>>724549364
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>724539836
Genestealer cultist.
>For the Emperor! The many-armed Emperor!
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Footknight parry counterpunch is so mindless I love it
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>>724540503
They've reworked Zealot to be way more melee focused, so having a shooty sister makes a bit of sense to me.
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You know what actually has a pretty decent chance of being the new class? A death cult assassin.
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>>724551172
Nobosy cares about aeldari, fuck off.
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>>724551441
I've a hard time ever seeing that happen, Tau, Orkz and Eldars at least have a slim plausibility and canon explanation: GSCs will be saved for an additional enemy faction coming in 2032
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>>724551616
called eldars you god damn GW slave
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>>724551390
Eldar Cosairs are different from Dark Eldar but they are still pirates
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>>724551650
Nobody cares, they're a shitty NPC faction.
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>>724551441
They're already in the game
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>>724551792
and you use the trademarked name like a good little doggy, bet you just love space marines
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>>724551365
It's a shrinking market, and at some point, it's not going to be profitable
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>>724551928
Yeah because I know it pisses off retards like (You). Space elves suck and don't belong in 40k.
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>>724551710
Huh? Fair enough, Deldars are the literal niggers of the Milky Way so they can't cooperate with basically anybody. >>724551172's pic looked like a Kabalite Warrior so I just made the assumption.
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>>724552061
uh so being a corpo stooge is worth getting some (you)s? that's a sad life
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>>724551172
I just find eldar to be extremely unlikely due to how much work would have to go into making weapons for them. They would have to be like ogryn with their own set of weapons not shared by any other class, which means no reusing assets and never being able to use those assets again in the future. It seems way more likely that any and all DLC classes will be humanoid in order to allow them to reuse half of the existing weapon roster and potentially reuse any assets unique to them in the future.
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>>724552104
Gay, but I believe it.
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>>724552098
>He still thinks it's about corporate shit
I don't give a fuck about the shitty models, 40k is only good for video games and it's abundantly clear that aeldari don't belong in them.
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"The cycle"(tm) will continue.
They are going to keep patching Darktide until it's almost great then drop all support to develop AoS-tide which will release in a terrible state and make them crawl back to Darktide after one or two years.
But first they will go on vacation.
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>>724552430
>I don't follow the naming guidebook because am a mindless drone, I do it to piss you off

Bet you love grumz and stellar blade
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>>724552078
Yeah, Eldar Cosairs are an odd Rogue Trader artefact from back in the day, but they are like Rangers in that they are bored Craftworld Eldar who find life stifling, so join a crew to sail the Galaxy and pillage Human worlds, but they aren't enslaving or sadists like the Dark Eldar.
Warhammer Fantasy also had a similar group of Elves called the Sea Elves, which were more adventurous High Elves that lived on the coast or in coastal Enclaves around the World
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>>724552463
eh, AOS is hated and Fatshit combat director left.
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>>724552552
>AOS is hated

It's one of their better selling IPs
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>>724552641
plastic addicts don't translate to vidya or culture in general. Remember this shit? me neither
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>>724552641
But is a failure in everything else except miniature sales.
Its RPG isn't well-liked despite it being a decent enough system, all its Video game flop and its BL books don't get the attention like 40k or HH ones do
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>>724552736
Well you clearly do given bring up random showelware from several years ago
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>>724537736
>play it early
>it's ass
>don't even feel like going back to it once it has become good anymore
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>>724552641
This is how you can spot secondarties a mile away: Sure, AOS is fantasy MCU of the highest order but the actual game is pretty fun, probably in a better state than 40k and the models have become pretty good. The fantasy aesthetic will always be accessible to the normie audience and that's why the game sells really good. But in contrarian mental wards like 4chan AOS will always be two weeks from foreclosure, "trust the plan!"...
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>>724552736
Not him but being an AoS game was genyibely the least of RoR's problems.
>Developed by Park Sim devs
>Made with a focus on being a Console RTS
>Didn't pick popular AoS factions, specifically went for those that were in then-current starter sets, then tossed on the Tzeentch faction nobody plays (likely to try and shill for it)
>Picked the most boring setting in AoS by being in Ghur. Again, because the tabletop 'narrative' at the time had put some focus on it
>Tried to make it 'tabletop accurate' by making units be unselectable in melee outside of retrear orders (which isn't accurate at all ironically)
It's like if somebody made a new Dawn of War but the playable factions were Marines, Genestealer Cults, and Thousand Sons, and it was set entirely on a barren desert planet. The game was bad, but not for being AoS.
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>>724552736
>RTS with a competitive focus
It was dead before it even released
>>724552784
It has two games and both were shovelware.
40k is just too huge for anything to reasonably measure up especially since they turned it into primarch wank to milk the mainstream.
It's arguably a better tabletop game than 40k
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An AoS tide game taking place during the Soul Wars and having to fight hordes of spooky ghosts could actually be pretty kino.
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>>724553434
the tide games aren't a friendslop at all. It takes time getting used to the melee system
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>>724553274
>spoiler
That's not hard now, even 40k purists think 40k is in a general bad spot, but outside of Spearhead, AoS hasn't really gained much traction since 4th edition started
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>>724553519
well darktide is. vermintide isn't. but the thread is about darktide.
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>>724553410
They already have the proper setup for AoS-tide with Cursed City. Admittedly they also had proper set-up for 40k-tide with Blackstone Fortress, but for some ungodly reason they decided to ignore that and go with Darktide.
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>>724553612
you haven't played the game then or got punked at the start and elected to say it's a friendslop because you can't carry
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>>724553410
>spooky ghosts
No deal, I wanna click rats.
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>>724553410
That or Soulblight/flesh-eaters. In general Grand alliance Death would be the only reasonable pick to not rehash chaos for a third time. Though I feel like Fatshart would be really sad not to reuse that poxwalker model and it's animations for a third time.
However it's going to be a GW mandated "oops all Stormcast" with an elf and dwarf thrown in for good measure.
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>>724548175
They wouldn't care about a servitor but for anything beyond that they might easily get annoyed that anybody unannointed would judge their people.
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>>724552552
>AOS is hated
...by autistic retards whose understanding of the setting is limited to tertiary youtube grifters.

It has been kinda mid, for sure, but they've been chiseling it up to shape in the recent years.
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>>724554198
(You)
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>>724553410
Nighthaunt would have great units for specials, too.
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>>724551104
By the time vt3 comes out it is likely that bardin's va will be dead, and sienna's will sound all old and croaky. It's best if it doesnt come out at all
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>>724553410
>>724553647
Just do Wrath with a Chaos protag, that's the unquestionable peak of Soul Wars
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>>724537736
lets see
>promises all updates will be free except cosmetics because the cash shop will "be so amazing"
>mocks paypigs while every mission is bugged for dog enemy spam for months on end when it was just supposed to last for a few days
>releases the game in a broken state then the entire office takes half a year off and the CM gives biweekly updates just telling people they have no idea when people are coming back because it's snowing and they didn't realize holidays were a thing
>owner of fatshark has to come out to apologize that they are still waiting to give an announcement to another announcement that still didn't have a date for an update to the game that was already 3 months overdue
>deletes and edits their own forum posts because they were so full of shit they straight up realized they were blatantly lying to everyone and then pretended to not to know what was going when people called them out on it
>took over a year to just get damage bonuses to work properly let alone add basic weapon stats
what else am I missing?
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>>724554563
I guess Bardins Voice Actor is 78 now
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>>724554198
only /tg/ fags love it (even then they just chased off others)
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>>724553612
Nah, if it was, my friendslopper friends would actually play it
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>>724550118
visual design is just about the only positive thing to say about that game, same as deathwing
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>>724553612
it's a l4d clone you sperg
just because you found a funny word doesn't mean it applies to every game you don't like
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>>724554198
>furfag
>yeah dude, it's been kind of mid for years and turned WH:F into 40k lite just to make everyone buy an entire new army, but only autistic secondary grifters care about any of that.
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>>724554705
>people who play tabletop love it
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>724554198
These skaven look too friendly and not schizophrenic enough
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>>724547225
You can just buy greys from the armory, upgrade them to green then sacrifice them all to max out a weapon's mastery in 10 minutes or so. It's not like you aren't sitting on millions of dockets and plasteel at this point
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>>724554652
>what else am I missing?
(((wakelin))) saying the game isn't COD when asked about weapon customization
players not being able to play due to network error (have a friend in Sweden who couldn't play)
the very first hotfix for the game was to fix the cash shop
(((wakelin))) manually refunding the game on steam for the person who made that infamous Slaaneshi guide
CEO promising they would stop all work on consoles in that apology letter
console version coming out within the year
console players can disable crossplay but PC players cannot
owners of the console version getting more in game currency than early steam adopters without paying extra
some jeet they hired started sperging out on the youtube leaving copy pasted responses to people inquiring about a unique weapon being shown (GOOD OLD PLASMA GUN ALREADY IN THE GAME)
combat director left because he was disillusioned with the company

definitely more i'm forgetting
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>>724554705
isn't this board infected with shill mods?
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They should reduce the game install size somehow. 80gb is a lot to keep around for the live service format.
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>>724555605
Sure, but generally not the sort you're thinking of.
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>>724555601
was wakelin the first CM or the one that replaced the first one a few months after release? I kind of felt bad for the second one, but they kept up the shitshow with no brakes so fuck em either way.
>the very first hotfix for the game was to fix the cash shop
this and the console shit I remember as well. thanks for the reminder.
honestly so much of this game's development should be a fucking case study in game design on what not to do, it's hard to not sound like a schizo just describing it.
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>>724554993
Yeah, it's so evil of them to erase the old games out of existence and forcing everyone to use latest official models with plastic DRM.
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>>724555601
>that infamous Slaaneshi guide
Do tell. Sounds juicy.
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>>724556413
really? Thought it was just GW generals where you weren't allowed to complain
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>>724551612
yeah would be cool, i liked kibbels
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My money is on a Sister Repentia pure melee class or Skitarri
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>>724556432
I said Wakelin because I genuinely forgot the name he used. He went by Hedge
>>724556586
pic rel was the guide in full
1/2
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>>724556524
WOAH ASPECTS OF TZEENTCH LOOK LIKE THAT?

ALL PRAISE THE LORD OF CHANGE(ING THE STATE OF MY COCK FROM FLACCID TO ERECT)
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>>724556586
2/2
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>>724555605
Lol, /tg/ mods are the opposit of shills. They seeth about Warhammer in general and try to derail the generals. Sharty leaks from thebrecent 4chan shut down shown one of them is some Eastern Euro
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>>724556686
this guide got deleted no? always wondered if theyre more nurgle or slaanesh
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>>724556432
It was some fag named Hedge, and he got fired after the Slaaneshi cultist guide shenaniganz, because a CM trying to force a shop to refund a customer's game over a joke was too much even for swedoids.
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>>724556686
>Hedge
I think that was the first one iirc, but god damn I haven't seen this before.
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>>724556618
Ah, my bad: I thought you meant /v/. Yeah, /tg/ is 85% generals but that's not so strange considering how niche the hobby is and how limited the number of games on offer is.
The /tg/ clientele is pretty console war-oriented though, but that can probably be explained by the number of secondaries GW games generally attract.
There's occasionally glimmers of actual inspiration like picrel to be found there, I wouldn't call the place hopeless (just yet).
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>>724556785
Fuckin' savage. But damn, Hedge is such a pissbaby.
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>>724556994
wasn't it confirmed there was trench crusade devs?
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Darktide is probably the best l4d clone on the market that has a good balance between melee and ranged combat.
Downside is the game only gets good once you reach max difficulty.
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>>724557098
too bad it's managed by niggers
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>>724557032
Iunno? Only time I've been to /tg/ in the past months was to look for some pdfs for a friend. But Trench Crusade has been a very active community in the current year so it's very possible Pirinen or some other dev dude dropped by in their /general/ at some point?
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>>724556785
did the dude accepted
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>>724557098
it's literally worse than their previous game.
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>>724557223
yeah that too
>"Hey we released a brand new class, enjoy!"
>class has game breaking bugs that makes two out of its three capstones not work
>devs go out on a month long vacation after the class is released and won't push a hotfix
all swedish game studios are literally the epitome of "meet the potential dev!" where they have a really solid framework for a game then fuck up everything else about it
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>>724557331
I'm pretty sure the guy had no say in accepting nor rejecting that offer; the game got removed from his steam list without his permission.
I didn't save the proceeding images and I abandoned the threads shortly after because they were bombarded with shitposters and unironic trannies.
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>>724549671
>be an intelligent consumer
>rather than mindlessly buy any product that might seem appealing, wait to see reception before putting money down
>darktide reviews come out
>its a mess
>dont buy it at launch
>instead wait until updates hit the game that resolve the issues people had problems with at launch
>buy the game later, after updates solved the progression systems and cleaned up bugs
>have a great first impression with a game I enjoy :)

Don't give a fuck about whatever dumbass shit you took personal offense to that no longer exists. Video games are products and game developers are not your friends. You owe them nothing and they owe you nothing in return. They released a bad game and I didn't buy it, they worked to make it a good game and then I bought it. Consumerism never needed to be more complicated than that.
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>>724537736
the game is really good. one of the most fun shooters in years.

the devs are lazy assholes so the game will never reach its true potential
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>>724557883
so strange this website hates yet is filled with troons, anime do attract them. But yeah if I had been him I'd just buy the game later for a reduced price
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>>724557923
Yeah, getting DT for $13 was great; but everyone who bought it full price should've marched on Stockholm to burn Fatshart to the ground.
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>>724557923
>be an intelligent consumer
>see the game get mismanged to hell and back and then buy it anyway
>have a great first impression with a game I enjoy :)
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>>724537736
Still no word on solo?
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>starts getting good
it can never be good because the characters is what made vermintide 2 good, there is no banter, no personality in darktide
its gay and soulless
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>>724537736
>starts getting good this year
Regarding gameplay it was best in its first year.
Regarding content its improving but stopped improving once they shifted from adding new missions/maps to just cheap, easy mortis trial arenas.
Arbites class DLC was an I-Win button until it was rebalanced, and its still a little bit OP.

Its still worth trying this game but it definitely is not "good" yet, and may not be unless they go back to the harder difficulty tuning of their first year.
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>>724558147
Never, literally never ever, gonna happen. The bots are an absolute joke compared to VT2 anyhow and can barely survive the first wave of enemies on any given map.
>>724546397
NEED
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>>724557496
Yep. Dodged Helldivers 2 for that exact reason. The drama that happened there was almost 1:1 with Darktide in the amount of seethe it caused, if not more.
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>>724558260
what? the ogryns got a ton of personality
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>>724558131
Yeah the game I bought for 20 bucks off a humble bundle sale that was bug free and didn't have a retarded gear system is pretty good. I've also seen what a game that has clearly been given up on by it's developers or publishers look like and Darktide isn't it. If you want a good example, look at what games like New Genesis or Hyper Light Breaker look like.
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vermitntide is probably the game where I saw the biggest amount of women
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>melee game
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>>724558683
"Women"
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>>724558609
I really hope helldivers 2 doesn't influence the entire gaming sphere where devs are afraid to nerf anything.
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>>724558784
well unless those diddlers suddenly found a perfect voice changer, no
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>>724558757
there are plenty of builds that can go 90% shooting.
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>>724558656
>surely the devs can copy their own game, right?
>surely the official release will run better than the beta, right?
>surely the devs won't abandon any updates so they can push a console port out the door, right?
>bug free and didn't have a retarded gear system is pretty good
literally not even true after 3 years and the upgrades for weapons isn't even what they promised it would be at the end of 2022.
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>>724537736
>is dogshit for 2 or 3 years
It hasn't ever been dogshit you meme chasing retard.
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>>724558993
the game does run a lot better now than it did in the beta.

it still runs like ass but less ass.
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Need more maps, they added like 3 that are identical to every other one we have. With them counting the same map twice just becauce they make you go through it backwards. It serously still feels like there are only 2 missions you endlessly repeat because every map is the same.
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>>724558131
>tfw the batsu gang are all old as fuck and can't run around as much
>tfw documental got neutered because people got offended
>tfw i have no face
grim, grim darkness of the 21st millennium even
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>>724539171
There is a lot to earn as a free player.
It just isn't as cool and lacks variety.
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GOT IT JUST FOR YOU
ELLO MY PRETTY
WE GOT REDDIT
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>>724558757
Darktide is one of the few FPS games with good melee
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>>724559143
2.1nd millennium
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things I don't like about darktide
>extremely generic horde enemies (especially annoying when it's a game set in the 40K universe)
>not enough maps and too much shit gets reused in the current maps
>weird mission select (heard they might have fixed this)
>devs rely too much on modifiers to make the game interesting
>not enough cool shit from the 40k universe (this is kind of forgiven because it's based on dark heresy, but people wouldn't be crying if the OC wasn't lame as hell)

I still enjoy the game for what it is, but I play it with friends, so my opinion might be tainted.
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>>724559243
:^)
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>>724558076
Oh yeah, I totally get *how* people can end up personally offended at a developer or publisher. I will just forever advocate to just have enough patience to wait like, a week at most to see how people end up feeling about a new product rather than being the sucker who falls for the FOMO and buy it at launch. Even bringing up dumbass shit from launch is just redundant. That's not to dismiss that the launch was bad (it was) and that it would have been better if the game was just able to launch in the state it took 3 years to reach (it would have) but if someone were to have bought and played Darktide in the last year, they literally cannot even relate to what happened at launch to begin with. Patience always wins. "Thanks for beta testing" is a meme on this board for a reason.
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>>724559280
Playing with friends is the best, randoms fucking suck in this game. When the game got added to gamepass it was all downhill there for playing with randoms.
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>now
correct, but at release it literally ran worse than the beta and took them like a year just to get it even comparable.
>>724559143
>probably won't even make jokes at endo anymore even if they return because matsumoto got accused of sexual harassment.
it is grim.
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>But they would need entirely new animations.
It's a bipedal human. No they don't. A skitarii wouldn't need to hold a weapon or walk differently than anyone else. What are you even assuming?
A tech priest might need to have an animation for a mechadendrite but I would expect a skitarii before a tech priest.
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wish these games didn't copy LF4D fucking disablers
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>>724559569
>>724558131
what's with gookposting and smug
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>>724559569
better they don't return at all than to ruin their legacy honestly
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>>724559642
>LF4D
Left for four dead????
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>>724559708
GnT. thank me later, fag.
>>724559756
still had a great run though. silent library and the early batsu games were something else.
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>>724540695
>>724540987
That's just not true. Did you expect that a 40k game set in a hive city wouldn't be industrial sci fi? For everything being set in "metal hallways and catwalks" they got the maps visually distinct.
If you can't tell hourglass from the carnival you are a retard.
The real problem is that each map is used for like 3 or more missions just with different routes so you will end up on the Chasm 3 out of 5 missions you run just moving a different direction.

The amount of people that try to shit on this game when the absolutely haven't played it is astounding to me.
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>>724550056
I saw speculation that GW pushed for Arbites in DT and Rogue Trader and gave both teams the designs and docs so they only had to implement them — that would explain the synchronicity of both releases.

I also didn’t expect this class. It was fun to play but nothing that really pulled me back in with its fantasy.

I know it’s rather off-limits, but I’d really like a Commissar class with conscript bots — only pistol-ranged-options and relying on the minions for ranged combat. They already have the tech for it with the Necromancer in VT2. A Commissar would make perfect sense to send along, just like the Arbites, to keep an eye on the rejects.

And if they’re really cool, they’d reintroduce dual-wielding ranged + melee — which is a long-term staple of 40K. You always see dudes running around with a bolt pistol and a chainsword — literally everywhere — everyone’s got a pistol in one hand and a sword in the other. So it’s really eyebrow-raising that it’s still missing in DT.
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>Wanted to start playing again
>Realize I'd have to play with retard mute drones while leveling
>Give up
There's truly nothing worse in this world than none of your friends playing co-op games.
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>>724560389
If anything the Necromancer knockoff minion spam class would be a Techpriest with combat servitors. Besides, they have the Arbeetus there now and the Inquisition is outside the IG command structure so Commissars have no authority, which is why the girlboss Commissar NPC passive-aggressively seethes so much.
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>>724560265
Absolutely. Nowhere near enough maps for a game that they want people to nolife in.
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>>724547520
>game still runs like shit
Runs fine for me
>most maps are still a different grade of "grey industrial color and setpiece"
They aren't, they are absolutely distinct colors even if it's all metal science fiction hallways
>everyone in the voxs still insult you and if they don't it's some of the cringiest dialogues you'll hear like shipmistress favorite bonobo or a noble parody
This is true
>the spawn randomly grabs you because the server netcode is terrible, you need mods to reduce the input eating
Skill issue. Everything has an audio for spawn and attacking. I have never been snagged or tagged without warning. Maybe your computer sucks or you do.
>it's either a cakewalk or the director spamming 25 netters at the same time
Random nonsense you said. Never seen nets in that number but huge packs of crushers are a thing I guess.
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>>724560686
>I'd have to play with retard mute drones while leveling
You don't really need much communication for leveling. It's only in upper half of Mortis shit that you start to need it.
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>>724560950
As if either Fatshark or GW cares!

> *girlboss Commissar NPC calls girlbossboss*
> “We need more boots on the ground because these are all undisciplined heretics REEEEEEEE I’m a WOMAN*!”
> *Fatshark rolls out Commissar class*

I think it’s harder to force Tech-Priests onto the ground — but even that’s possible:

> “Muh Forge World.”
> “Muh trademark 3D printers.”
> “Send in the Tech-Priests with the rejects to recover toasters!”

Between you and me nobody really care about the setting or the world, they are just in for the money first the rest is second.
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>>724540318
I would coon...in the omnisiahs name of course
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>>724554198
WHFB was fucking kino.
AOS is high fantasy "magic marines" and its gay. Guess you like having an army squatted into irrelevance so you could buy a whole new overpriced set of fish elves?
Everything else you say is irrelevant.
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>>724541530
They made gear and leveling a joke so you typed all of this for nothing
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>>724541593
They buffed crushers' HP and the dueling sword is arguably still the best at dealing with them so even if they nerfed it a tiny bit, it's still the best.
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>>724554198
Age of Smegmar and the Smegmarines will never be cool, faggot. It's a dogshit setting through and through.
t. Someone who knows more about it than (You)
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>>724546397
That would be too cool, thats why it will never happen. The new character is probably skitarii or a servitor, nothing too out there.
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>>724547520
>>game still runs like shit
huh?

list your specs you broke bitch because it runs very well on my mid-tier rig.
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Game runs pretty decently nowadays (3700x + RX7600) but last time I played it couple months ago, it still had that random eternal loading screen when going for the hub.
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Yeah it runs well *uses maximum performance AI frame generation xess and dlss*
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>>724537736
I wasnt there for VT2 for launch, but apparently this is par for the course for them. Darktide I was at launch and have played since. Combat was always amazing, took two years for all the supporting systems to not suck ass. New weapons, monster types, classes and maps keeps it alive, but is brought out at snail's pace.
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>>724538447
No, no matter what they add it won't be a decent game. It's a skin shop simulator masquerading as a video-game. You can't even pick missions and most maps are just a different section of the same few maps.
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>>724562310
>looks good
>almost no noticable LoD switching
>shitloads of enemies on screen without hitching
It runs well.
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>>724561769
Nobody has ever bought Bretonia
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>>724537736
I still prefer vermintide, but that's more like because what's the point of 40K if you don't play a space marine? Also, vermintide characters just have more soul.
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>>724561790
Just because it's not as bad as it used to be doesn't mean it's still not at least 10-15 hours of game time on a new character before they're capped out, between their own levels, the weapon grind, and the curios.
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>>724562479
seriously, the game is marvel on a technical level.

we even have a direct comparison - helldivers 2 is in the same engine and its uglier, runs worse, and has like double or more of the filesize.
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>>724538447
You want a horde shooter where you go from treating the combat as a brainless hack and slasher to a science (cleave targets, hit mass,damage vs strength, class base stats, stamina regen delay, movement speed, movement tech, backstabs, flanking, bleed, fire, soulblaze stacks, Skullcrusher timings, armor types, enemy types, carapace viable weapons, close range, perks, blessings, builds, weapon marks differences, animation timers, ranged counter, trapper awareness, mutant oneshot, hound dodging, bulwark opener, rager stopper stamina mangement, crowd control, target priority, abusing game mechanics, playing only be ear to sound cues), set to bangers by Jesper Kyd and praising the emperor for leading you to victory another day? Then yeah, go for it.
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>>724546397
>>724546530
>>724547143
>>724561972
My zealot will NEVER serve along side a filthy stinky xeno
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>>724562636
what's the point of a grinding game if you can't grind?
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>>724562671
>no updates, no file size change
Not really doing the mic drop you think you're doing here
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>>724562559
They 100% did for TOW, but they didn't for WFB
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>>724562780
Grinding does not belong in horde shooters, it is the antithesis of the entire genre. From the moment you boot up the game, it is artificially limiting how much of the horde you get to engage with, because at low levels with no perks and no weapons, you'll just get your shit kicked in.

I boot up Left 4 Dead 2 every other year and never have to worry about the game deciding my Coach isn't Lv47 with an assfuck modifier that gives +5% chance to culturally enrich the Jockey, complete with my special ability being changed from the Yeah Football! throwable to the Fentanyl Floyd berserker buff.
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>>724563041
>Grinding does not belong in horde shooters, it is the antithesis of the entire genre

These games would be boring and dead without grinding, just like L4D. Every single one of them has grinding Helldivers, Vermintide Dark Tide, Deep Rock.
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>>724563182
And they're all shit.

Also Left 4 Dead 2 has a playerbase of just shy of 30,000, like right now. It's far from dead, it literally has a larger playerbase than every game you mentioned.
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>>724562883
>no updates

what a tired line. maybe dont tell on yourself so hard with the next one.
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>>724559642
disablers are what make the formula work
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>>724563259
>30k
Literally thirdies and bots up the bum.
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>>724562719
But will serve alongside a psyker that openly calls the emperor a corpse. Honestly, them skirting canon is the best thing they could do, there is not a snowballs chance in hell that one veteran wouldnt be executed immediately
>hey guys, Im going to steal stuff and run away, whos with me
>says this while comms is listening and they were arrested for murder and theft
In canon this person would be dead lol.
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>>724537736
>starts getting good
watch it be a hive ganger with mostly copypasted vet talents (just like how arbites was)
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>>724563967
>botting l4d2
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>>724564239
Wait, I havent played for a while. Did the other classes get dogs too? I thought that was just arbites, like the new classes introduced the concept of having a "pet", so they can do servitors that have a little skull flying around etc, was pets always a thing?
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>>724564383
You're overreacting, only arbites has a pet mechanic right now.
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So VT2 has 3 factions and Darktide still only has one/one and a half. Granted, Darktide's Chaos has way more unit types than any of the VT2 factions and those units have mostly both Scab/Dragon variants.
But if we were to get another Darktide faction, what do you guys think would fit the best?
Think about what has representation in other 40K action games
>Tyranids
Already in SM2 and Deathwing, but they would fit in a horde shooter
>Tau
No representation in an action game but maybe you could make an argument that they could use Kroots as melee and shake things up with heavier, range focused units?
>Necrons
No representation in an action game yet but they wouldn't really work, maybe with flayed ones?
>Orks
Already in SM1 so it's been a while, but they would probably work great for a horde shooter
Any other ideas?
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>>724537736
boring game with 0 map variety. everthing looks and feels the same, the new added enemies are just rehash of old enemies like gas bomber or plasma gunner (captain's non boss version). No weapon variety in higher difficulties. faggy ass community moderators who ban you for the most frivilous innocuous shit.

dead game. will be even deader. no "faux" update will save it.

like literally try finding a havoc lobby after 10pm weekdays.
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>>724565713
>community moderators
Is this something in-game? Is this new? I don't recall this being a thing when I played on launch (reinstalled yesterday, getting mods sorted now) and I used to abuse people sometimes.
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>>724538202
there's not really. gloriana is too short to be called a proper map, it's a half-map and rituals map is literally a half-map. it's left overs from merchant district map.
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>>724562479
Darktide does not run great. Running a 3080 and i9-12900K at 1440p, no raytracing, and the game can drop down to 30 or 40 sometimes. Granted, it mostly runs at 60, but sometimes it just fucking kills itself during a game for some reason.
The game is also installed on a 7 GB/s SSD and I have seen the occasional LoD model issue, but this is rare so I won't say that's an issue
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>>724565839
Rolling Steel is the best map :)
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>>724565451
genestealer cult chaos wastes space hulk mode that takes place in the second city
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>>724565801
I have been banned 3 times for using a stealth knife zealot to speedrun and sic enemies on people and when they cussed, I cussed back.
The developers put that mechanic in the game, it can't be called griefing it is legally usable.
After the 3rd one I emailed them and insulted them. Then they reverted the ban to a perma ban.
I am from Turkey and I got a proxy-ecommerce site banned by the goverment for theft and swindling. I'll sue fatshark and try getting their products off the e-shop shelves as soon as I gather enough money.
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>>724565989
There's no way they would introduce a new faction ONLY for the roguelite mode
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>>724566047
>I am from Turkey
i'd fuckin ban you too
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>>724565451
genestealers were already teased so it would make the most sense for fatshark to not follow through
probably khornates or beastmen. they can just port over the assets from vermintide
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>>724566047
>using a stealth knife zealot to speedrun
Stopped reading there. Can't believe I share a board with actual subhumans
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>>724566150
If everything goes according to plan, you won't have to :) as no Turk will be able to access nor but the game.
Fuck swedistan. I hope they'll be russia's next annexation
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>>724566196
>genestealers were already teased
Darktide has been nothing but "teases" for 3 fucking years
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>>724566225
Cry more to fatshark if you think that's a problem, you fucking faggot.
You pick smite in a melee only mod, I'll grief the fuck out of your game.
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>>724566303
ya hence my saying that it would be in character for fatshark to not make a genestealer faction
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>>724566336
Why would I cry about you being a fucking loser? Stealth players are just retarded losers
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>>724566047
>knife zealot
Man you dickheads are STILL around? You faggots were fucking worthless when I last played 2 years ago and I doubt that has changed. There was a schizo spamming it in /copeg/ years back and always got mocked for it. Thank fuck you're banned. Ban all knife zealots.
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>>724566367
Ahh I misread, sorry. Does 40K even have a beastmen equivalent? I wouldn't mind Fatshark taking liberties with smaller Lore tidbits and making something of their own
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>>724537736
Darktide wasn't really ever Dogshit. I thought it's been good this whole time, you niggers are just cynical and don't know a good game if it bit you in the ass. Only thing bad about it is lack of maps and memorable personalities in the characters (except Scottish zealot, he's the man)
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>>724566710
>I doubt that has changed
it hasn't
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>>724566656
Nigger, it's in the game. If you think stealth players are losers and you don't want to play with them, either discourage them in-game like I did with legal mechanics or drop the dick in your mouth and use it for speaking to fatshark (they'll most certainly listen to you).
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>>724566336
on one hand, knife zealot is nigger behavior
on the other hand, griefing smiggers is based
based nigger
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>>724566047
>grief parties
>cuss them out in broken english
>wtf i can't believe I was banned!
completely deserved, stop acting like a subhuman roach
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>>724566710
>STILL around
I stopped playing this trash in the beginning of this year and took a gander if it was still the hot pile of shit via a friend's family shared account.
I have self-respect, unlike you veddit losers.
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>>724566730
>Does 40K even have a beastmen equivalent
there are and theyre even in space marine 2. i dont really know much about them aside from the fact the imperium viewing them as mutants
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>>724566730
Yeah, they are Beastmen, but unlike Fantasy Beastmen aren't inherently evil,l so you can get one loyal to the God Emperor but outside of one Necromunda Hired Gun, they don't have models
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>>724566951
Stopped playing (got banned)
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>>724566946
Perma bans are theft. No in-game behavior grants theft.
You call my english broken yet you couldn't grasp the basic civility of honoring a purchase contract. Are you westoids this much goy-cattles, really?
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>>724537736
GW sends them detailed GDDs for new classes now.
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>>724567010
It's still available in my game pass library, I refuse to play it.
As I said, they didn't fire me, I quit. Because legally I still can play it on another platform.
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>>724540948
WoM literally killed vt2 for a year solid, mortise trials are actually exactly what the Devs intended and fun.
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>>724567082
>i can grief you because the devs let me :)
>what the fuck i know the law lets them do this but you CAN'T just ban me thats so unfair this is theft!
subhuman whining, why do you all take pride in acting like clowns is it because you know nobody will ever take you seriously?
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>>724562405
ignoring the gameplay in your critique is very telling as to what you value in games sonny.
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>>724562702
this nigga gets it.
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>>724567198
>and fun.
Now that's pushing it. Currently they add nothing to the game of worth and are extremely boring.
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>>724567301
>i can grief you because the devs let me :)
Yes, I literally can. Learn the meaning of "can" before you trash talk my english skills.
It's basically a simple switch on their part. But they won't fix it, because they don't care about this game.
Don't hate the playa, nigger.

>i know the law lets them do this
The law doesn't let them do this, FYI. At least not here. I don't know whatever kikeish judicial system you guys got there but taking one's money for a subscription then retracting the service is considered theft here.
Have some self respect and stand up for your rights, you humiliation loving, ace-of-spades tattooed trash.
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>INTRODUCING OUR NEWEST CHARACTER...
>Boring Human Guy with one new basic ballistic gun from Call of Duty and a single charged variant of an existing melee weapon, otherwise sharing weapons with our other identical characters!
>NEW MAP: IS-272908 Sector H Epsilon
>Explore an industrial hallway corrupted by Nurgle's Chaos forces... again!
>NEW ENEMIES.. including.. Nurgle Guy with a new type of ammunition that coats the floor in area denial!... again!
I dont know how this game continues to exist, frankly.
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>>724567594
I would trade even more of my rights if it ensured you revolting people had to use your own internet and decent human beings were guaranteed to never have to put up with your bug minded behavior ever again.
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will the new class be free?
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>>724537736
>like vermintide 2
>friend says we should try this
>watch a bunch of 40k lore videos
>yeah this is pretty cool actually i see why people like this
>game itself is literally just vermintide 2 again but with guns
>setting is just a bunch of metal hallways with the occasional nurgle gooch grease swamp or particle accelerator
>wonder why the fuck is it even nurgle again he was just the most prevalent one in vermintide 2
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>>724566921
There are too many problems with this game. Imagine you are playing no ammo pickups mission and a guy with infinite ammo trivializes the main aspect of that mod. Or a thunder hammer bitch one shotting everything in a spec2mons mod. Or an infinite lasgun vet who shoots chaff poxwalkers point blank...
I griefed those kinds of missions fyi, and I regret nothing. Fuck fatshark for creating such an ass game and fuck you more for being the shit on the pavement on my path.
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>>724567903
L O L
O
L
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>>724566730
They are currently in a grey zone where they are on the precipice of being removed from abhuman status and being relegated to a gayoss subfaction, but gaydubz still throws them bones every now and then with rare mentions of loyalist Beastmen fighting under the Ecclesiarchy. It means there is a non-zero albeit extremely small chance Beastmen will become a new class.
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>>724567903
Hehe.
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>>724565451
Probably genestealers. There are a lot of hints about them.
>tyranids
Yeah, they would work but I'm tired of the space bugs. They are as overdone as nurgle.
>orks
I mean, it could work. You could even have gretchen as huge swarms for hordes I guess. Orcs themselves are bigger/stronger than people so their implementation might need a change from current enemies which would be a good thing. There could be weirboyz that work like VT2 blightstormer.
>Khorne
Would be cool. Very aggressive melee heavy group. However they wouldn't be different enough from the current enemies imo. Lots of reskinned guys from green to red. Ragers would be 1:1 even.
>tzeentch
Again, partially just a recolor but they would probably be more ranged focused. Green to blue.
>slaanesh
Never ever. But I would like the zombie hordes to be replaced with cracked out hallucinating addicts. Again, lots of it would be recolored units, green to purple/pink.
>tau
I guess it would be cool to see them in game. Would need to lean into the kroot a lot. Idk if they'd fit the theme/playstyle of darktide as enemies.
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>>724546397
Too fun
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>>724567879
Whigger pls. You'll not be wearing SS boots, but you'll be licking corporate kike boots like you are doing right now.
Your tongue is indistinguishable from a worn out boots' soles.
HAVE
SOME
SELF
RESPECT
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>>724537736
oh boy another dlc that cost $15.99 + tip for one (1) class.
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>>724568241
>LET ME GRIEF YOU LET ME SPAM VC WITH MY DISGUSTING ACCENT IF YOU DON'T LIKE THIS YOU HAVE NO SELF RESPECT
Stupid roach.
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>>724567950
>wonder why the fuck is it even nurgle again he was just the most prevalent one in vermintide 2
He appears to be GWs favorite chaos god. Probably is the most marketable.
>khorne
The most generic "demon" faction. Red, horns, hooves, fire, blood. Lame and a little too blood focused for mass marketing.
>tzeentch
Too esoteric. Blue birds. Magic ooooo. While more original than Khorne, still not as mass appeal friendly as zombies. Nice that bird law god got to be in SM2.
>slaanesh
Yeah.... well...
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>>724568335
Whigger please... I never used VC but if the communications were the offending factor, don't you think it'd be more appropriate to limit VC/text chat rather than completely thieving one out of their hard earned money?
You know for a fact that you are in the wrong here. Just stop being a dumb fuck with this much of a big ego and accept that you are wrong if your big ego (which is bigger than your intellectual prowess) lets you.
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>>724568445
>Probably is the most marketable
The 'safest'.
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>>724568335
Lol they cover themselves in olive oil and wrestle in the dirt.
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>roachanon still going
Man, cockroaches really are as resilient as they say.
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>>724568523
I am glad our jewish system lets us take advantage of bug minded freaks like you. Can you imagine how dumbed down ass retarded everything would have to be if THIS GUY was a protected class lmao
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>>724568532
Hot
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>>724568525
Yeah that's what I said.
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>>724568634
I'll sue this company man. I take this really serious. They pretty much gave me a reason to keep living.
This reads like a sunday morning movie villain but I'll do everything in my power to harm this company and whoever dickrides them, like the ace-of-spades tattooed, humiliation loving tranny who has the gall to talk back to me up above.
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>>724568814
The solution is not to cater the game to theiving, rotten turks. It is to ban you "people" from buying it in the first place. Make your own multiplayer game where you take turns fucking each other in the ass if you are so desperate for it.
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>>724568814
By all means, get fartshart games banned in roachstan so we won't have to see you or your ilk in our lobbies ever again.
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>>724568642
>Can you imagine how dumbed down ass retarded everything would
You mean companies wouldn't be able to take your rights away to use the products you paid for?
Damn, that's really retarded.
Speaking of which, is there a single person with triple digit IQ in your family? I got a nice bridge here to sell.
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>>724546397
Too fun for Boringtide. Focusing on the IG was the biggest mistake this game ever made, followed closely by making them randomized generic human grunts with 1/100th the personality and intercharacter dialogue of the VT cast. Will never stop boggling my mind that they looked at a setting with super soldiers, aliens, bugs, anime aliens, terminator robots, and knights with swords and shit and said
>yea let's focus on average humans fighting zombified average humans in a plain jane industrial environment
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>>724568943
If subhumans were banned from buying it, your money wouldn't be stolen. Problem solved go play all those superior turkish games.
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>>724568814
Lmao you type like a massive faggot. This is the gayest post I've read this month. Oh also you won't do shit.
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>>724568926
Your greedy, kiked Swedish overlords would cry to Tencent so they'd appeal to Turkish courts.
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>>724569005
>If subhumans were banned from buying it...
Then you wouldn't be able to play it either.
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>>724569228
>no u
yawn
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>>724569145
>Oh also you won't do shit.
Starting the court proceedings is about 2K TRY. Also gonna ask a lawyer, not to represent but to give me the sufficient info, which is another 5K.
I will do shit. I fucking hate this company so much.
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>>724569328
Please do. That would be incredibly funny to read about.
>I fucking hate this company so much
kek same
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>>724537736
Tranny game lmao
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>>724569252
No I mean it. Imagine there was a test before you bought the game. What are the chances that a guy who says "I want multinational corporations to ass fuck me and thieve me out of my money"?

Not to mention, judging by the Nazi imagery he shares he quite likely complains about non-local people being imported to his country by the very corporations he fellates?
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>>724569146
>>724569328
Do it faggot, see if your worthless laws and currency from your inbred shithole matter to Tencent or GW
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>>724569535
I don't behave like a subhuman, and so my money never gets stolen. An easy solution, but quite impossible for someone who lacks the actual physical brain power.
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Love Darktide but I've always felt it should have focused more on shooting and less on melee but Fatshark was too affraid of letting go of VT
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>>724569764
> don't behave like a subhuman
You do. You are defending thieves in the face of justice just because the thief is on your side and he looks like you.
That's actual nepotistic, subhuman, tribal nigger behavior.
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>>724568973
>IG
It's the Inquisition, nothing is off the table. The real issue with bringing in xenos shit is that it's a lot more work than another human class.
Which doesn't mean we won't get one ever. Hell, we might actually get playable Eldar at some point considering there's been a lot of teasing about a cloaked Eldar ship constantly trailing the Mourningstar.
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Evro hours
>Darktide is a flawed albeit fun game, it's future under Fatshark is uncertain but at least the 40k setting has some fun stuff as shown in this here fanart/photo of a painted model.
Burger hours:
>Nothing but shitposts trying to strawman each other and pathetic attempts at insults that grade schoolers would've been ashamed of uttering. Oh, and some CP because the culture war shitflinging got made fun of I guess?
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>>724569961
the mental gymnastics you have to do lmao
If this was just about saying bad words i would agree with you. Griefing has been the single thing that always gets you banned with no remorse. You are playing a coop game and then proving you can't play well with others. Why should you be ever allowed to buy any coop games if you ever grief people? Play a pvp game you dumb nigger.
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>>724570095
it's 11am on a thursday, how are these burger hours

wagies are waging and neets aren't up yet
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>>724570095
anon it is a literal turk sperging out right now
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>>724570159
Oh I'm sorry if my plain deconstruction and demonstration of your tribal, peasant behavior was too "gymnasticy" for you.
The game allows one to use stealth and knife, the move tech is there so it's intended to be played that way. Even if I was in coherency enemies still wouldn't target me because of the 20% CDR + (pious cutthroat) constant CDR with 60% crit rate (invocation of death). With these variables considered it's evident that the stealth knife gameplay had to be played that way. What griefing are you talking about?
>you can't play well with others
I can't play along well with subhumans who use smite in melee only modifier or hammers in monster modifiers. It beats the purpose.
If they can play however they want, so can I.
Deal with it, you tribal peasant nigger.
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>>724537736
are we gonna get a DLC bundle with both classes at a discount? the last new class looked cool but the price was outrages for a single class.
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>>724570159
>If this was just about saying bad words i would agree with you
No you wouldn't. You are so far deep in the tranny-selflove-narcissism triangle that your huge ego wouldn't let you agree with a roach.
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>>724570083
Why would Eldar throw themselves into mon'keighs' suicide mission, fighting alongside untrustworthy and unreliable primitives where the risk of losing their soulstones is immense? If anything they'd just be new questgivers.
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>>724570591
>>724570738
>i'm allowed to do this
didn't you get banned for it
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>>724570801
That's the thing you fucking moron. It's a single switch on their part to "fix" it, if they see it as a problem.
Both allowing people to use it and then banning them is pure idiocy. Which I don't expect you or your ilk to grasp.
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>>724570952
>allowing people to use it
didn't they ban you for using it?
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>>724570702
in a year maybe
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>starts getting good this year
I'm not paying for MTX on a $40 game that's designed like F2P phone slop
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>>724570996
And is every single player who played at least once a stealth knife zealot perma banned right now?
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>>724571130
"it" wasn't a stealth knife. The vast majority of people use the stealth knife without griefing.
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>>724556653
A bolter bitch in general would be top tier, but I fear they'd compete with the zealot for crazy lines
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>>724571110
man...they are charging way too much for a single class with no extra features.
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>>724571193
Define griefing? Why should I stay in the coherency where no enemy is able to move because a cuck fag like you uses warp unbound to hold them staggered infinitely?
I can already do that in psykhanium.
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>>724571270
You define it you said you were griefing first.
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>>724570760
Same reason they always do.
>something something mystical foresight
>it has been foreseen that the fall of atoma will lead to the destruction of a craftworld or expedite world
That is kind of all it takes
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Stealth knife zealot with revolver is the most fun you can have in this game.
It's so unique to any other game, it's pure adrenaline gameplay. You are locked the fuck in.
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>>724571270
It's a team game you fucking retard, play on a higher difficulty if it's too easy
there's no reason to torture other people like a psycho
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>>724571241
>I fear they'd compete with the zealot
A bolter bitch is going to be a playable character in Boltgun2. Fatshart could do a collab like they did with Rogue Trader. They know paypiggies will pigout for a Sororitas.
It's also the most low effort bullshit Fatshart can shit out in a timely manner and I can definitely see them taking that route for precisely that reason.
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>>724571338
An Exile or Corsair would make more sense than a craftworld Eldar, if a craftworld was being threatened, they'd deploy a war host, not send a single agent. I could also see a Dark Eldar being present, but xenos in general are already far fetched as it is given how the opening sequence is supposed to work and how character creation goes. A Ratling or Squat would make more sense.
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>>724571321
Nigger, I want to play with real moving enemies, not whack-a-mole with stationary enemies. I can go into psykhanium if I don't want enemies to move.
So when I rush to play with actual moving enemies, the ones who don't target me, (majority of them since stealth) will target you, be on rubberbanding (thanks to fatshark's shoddy coding) and that's called "griefing".
And if you complain about it, I'll say "kys fag" or "gitgud bitch" or "not my problem if you suck" you can snitch on me like the thin skinned smite imbecile you are, click on "griefing" for your report and get me banned.
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>>724571512
not my problem if you suck, gitgud bitch
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>>724571637
>A bolter bitch is going to be a playable character in Boltgun2
I'm pretty excited for this, but they'd better put in miracle shit, or there's no point.
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>>724571845
It really depends on the weapons the sister can take, but from the trailer, I don't really like her options.
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>>724571663
I didn't actually care about your specific justifications. Even you agree it is griefing, in a coop game. Play something else nigger.
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>>724571241
Bolter bitches are just with female only ziggers, and they're going to be butt ugly I mean just look at nu-Repentia
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>>724572131
Yeah, I guess I was just imagining DoW sisters being in
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>>724571960
>I didn't actually care about your specific justifications
You did. Else you wouldn't ask about what my definition of it was.
>Even you agree it is griefing
There's reason it was in quotations, you low IQ nigger.
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>>724571845
I'm curious to see how the entire thing is going to tie into the gameplay. Is it going to be a fast character swap, switching premission, or if they're going to have their own exclusive missions.
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>>724572262
I was pointing out that you griefing people was your claim, not mine, so any responsibility to define it would be yours. If you are suddenly acting like that is not the case it would only be because of YOUR dishonesty.
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>>724571782
>not my problem
evidently it is since you were dumb enough to get your ass banned and then come here to cry about it like a little bitch
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>>724570214
They're awake. The thread was objectively better, or at least not the dumpster fire it currently is, when they weren't.
I'm not even particularly convinced the Burgers themselves are behind it. Rather, the thirdies are aiming for the Burger target group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOY4Ka-GBus&t=47s
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>>724572413
My ban reason was "griefing", considering I stand against it with multiple posts here if you couldn't tell, it doesn't take triple digit IQ to know that I don't agree with their definition and when I used the word "I'll grief you" I was looking at the situation from their angle.
Again, if you stop my game to a halt with smite, or trivialize a modifier with unintended style of gameplay, I'll "grief" the fuck out of you (as per your definition, were these parentheses needed?).
But who am I kidding, I have self respect and I won't touch this pile of vibecode with a ten foot pole.
Stay a bootlicking worthless trash. I'm off for tonight. Gonna play a good game which doesn't appeal to shirtless-mod sporting trannies who pick female in-game chars despite being males IRL.
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>>724572262
I'm starting to think you definitely got banned for other reasons than just being out of coherency, and using stealth knife.
I'm glad your money got stolen. QQ fag.
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>>724571659
You're being too autistic about this, anon.
You don't need to "erhm actually" this. It fits the eldar modus operandi and justifies them stepping in.
>it could just be a corsair
Ok... and?
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>>724572659
kys faggot, not my problem if you can't deal with a clowncar worth of crushers. gitgud bitch.
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>>724572878
Yeah, except you only put quotations around it AFTER you were called out on your bullshit. Before you seemed quite proud, all subhumans take pride in being an annoyance to the decent people around them, seeing normal humans just enjoy themselves makes you seethe like nothing else.
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>>724572903
I'm not lying if you think I do, you need to kys you fag.
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>>724570095
>>724572673
as far as I know there's no other game that provides the same challenging co-op experience Darktide does
I enjoy it a lot, just hope they nerf the biggest offenders enabling the current mob powercreep like the DS, infinite cleave psyker fire staff and plasma gun so we can use other weapons in high havocs(the most fun the game has been for me)
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>>724572927
>don't be more autistic than me!
Okay faggot, sorry for posting, christ.
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>>724571659
They could send single agents as envoys or mediators, and to join the Inquisition's kill teams as a sign of good faith. Nothing says trust me bro like volunteering for suicide missions.
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>>724571659
>>724573334
Oh also, the opening for the Arbites class is already completely different from the other four, with an intro showing how they roll up on the ship in formation. They don't start the game in prison.
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>>724573217
Based. Fuck you stealth knife niggers. You don't do shit, but activate the enemies so they attack the group and then stealth away.
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The fuck is a "stealth knife" build?
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>>724573084
>you were called out on your bullshit.
Which was?
>seeing normal humans just enjoy themselves makes you seethe like nothing else
HAHAHAHA. Enjoy themselves? HAHAHAHA.
Imagine being so braindead that you "enjoy yourself" while enemies stand still in front of you and you pick them out one by one without any challenge, where the modifier itself is intended to prove hard... Did you really pay $40 for a game to play psykhanium stage in every mission? Who gave you the right to stop the game to a halt and command the pace of the game and how others play? If you are enjoying yourself at that moment, you need to kys, as I said before and got banned for. Simple as.
You truly are subhuman.
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>>724573602
you pick either vet or zealot then run their abilities that turn them invisible along with a knife
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>>724573602
zealots and veteran get an ability that lets them go stealth which drops all aggro
knife gives you the most mobility in the game so you can move incredibly fast
combine both and you get the stealth knife build
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>>724573217
thank you Alan for getting rid of those fuckers sperging in chat
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>>724573603
>buuuuuh huu whaaaa bububub im just a little guy
so glad i never have to worry about sharing a lobby with this roach faggot
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>>724573602
Enemies in the game just stand there until they're aggro'd. They never drop aggro afterwards so what asshole stealth knives do is run super fast, because of the knife, aggro all the enemies, and stealth away. This causes the enemies to beeline to the rest of the team no matter where they are on the map.
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>>724573825
I see you are out of ammo and already accepted defeat with reductionism attempts in your greentext.
Which means I don't have to waste time for you and I was leaving anyways. Stay a bootlicking loser. Bye.
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>>724561769
anon dont make me post the tow grail knights on foot. im not even trying to defend aos here but Bretonians in tow are fucking dumb as fuck.
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>>724573217
>>724573217
Sounds more like you pissed off the wrong streamer/influencer and they snapped their fingers and had you banned. Very common among multiplayer games these days.
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>>724571659
So why would a Corsair or Exile risk eternal damnation aka Slaaneshi soulrape to help stinky primitives deal with stinkier primitives? It's not like they have a Farseer's divinations (that miss 90% of the time) to go on.
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>>724573984
wonder how many times this griefing subhuman is going to say bye to me
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>>724573825
lol yeah, there's nothing impressive about running around in circles dealing 0 damage in easy difficulties until the teammates clean up the mess
bro has never stepped outside babymode where his dogwater build would get dumpstered the second his stealth wears off
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>>724574017
probably. also possible that he got flagged with many reports. I got my name changed pretty fast after someone vocally made a fuss about it and telling me that he'd reported me
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>>724537736
Darktide was always good, with some issues.
And since 2023 it has been great.
I know it's popular to shit on Fatshark but 99% of devs just abandon their games, Fatshark is one of the few studios who continue to release free updates many years after launch. They may work at a glacial pace but at least they care.
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>>724574680
Yeah and Sweden have very strict worker's rights and protection laws unlike the 3rd world + the US so you can't force people to crunch for 16 hours, 7 days a week for a year straight to (badly) fix the code and churn out content
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>Intenionally break the Terms and Conditions
>Account banned
They told you that would happen. You did it anyway. Get fucked lmao, you're someone who can't follow basic rules. And like I said, it wasn't just griefing, now was it? Quit coming online to tell lies.
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>>724573217
>anon is a fucking sperg
>anon gets banned
>anon spergs out more (impotently)
Based of them, you're gonna get banned again by the way.
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>>724566047
I'm quite late to this thread and i found this veeeery long reply chain that lead to (You). Holy shit you're a resentful little pathetic faggot. I want you to know that. Reading your posts is actually fucking embarrassing. Not only do you play the game is the most unlikable way possible, you also post like a 16 year kid who is angry with his parents. The most accurate word would be "cringe" but it's so overused it has pretty much lost it's effect. I'm just glad you're banned. Well deserved. Please never play multiplayer ever again.
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>>724575085
dude actually thought he'd be getting praise and not get laughed at like the fucking dumbass he is hahaha
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>Darktide could have been a game where you play as Grey Knights and other inquisitorial forces fighting to repel a daemonic incursion all over an entire planet, but instead we got ragtag rejects fighting diseased bums in the bowels of a hive city which affords exactly one type of environment
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>>724575457
Then it wouldn't be a tide game
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>>724575457
isn't this just Space Marine 2?
haven't played it yet so I don't really know for sure
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>>724575457
i prefer it this way.

maybe Space Marine 3 or some Space Marine spin off by another company can make the Gray Knight game at some point.
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>>724575457
It also could have spanned across the entire galaxy like Helldivers2 where you fight an assortment of stuff.
>fight on Armageddon
>fight on Cadia
>fight on a space hulk
>fight on a death world
>fight on a tomb world
instead Fatshark decided to blanda upp
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>>724537736
I'll buy 4 copies at 80% off. Not a percent sooner.
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>See my thread is almost at 500
>Check it out to see discussion
>Other half of thread is insulting each other
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Wrath and Glory has a Darktide module where you can translate your video game character into a tabletop one. There's also a list of non-game classes that can play like Sister of Battle/Repentia and Tech Priest Lexmechanic/Electropriest/Skitarii.
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>>724575589
What do you mean? Vermintide features some pretty special individuals. There's a witch hunter general, a wood elf Waywatcher, a dwarven ranger veteran and a bright wizard. These are all people in respected positions in their respective communities. Except Kerillian, I guess, but that has more to do with her personal background than what she is.

Then you look at DT and the most respectable person on the roster is a police officer.
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>>724576109
>1d6
I like 1d100 more
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>>724576109
These guys also made a Darktide Card game for some reason
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>>724575837
You fags are asking for Planetside 3: The 40K Bogaloo. Which is only natural, it's a fine concept for a game and I've been arguing for several years that this (with a 3 front war, rather than red vs blue) would be an ideal Battlefield contender. But it's not something Fatshark would, nor will, ever do.
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>>724576279
No I'm not. All I'm saying is that if they had broadened the scope to the planet instead of a single hive city on it, we wouldn't be stuck with having several maps that look pretty much identical to one another. That doesn't mean I want the entire planet to be a playable area, but that if the fight revolved around saving the planet, that would be justification enough for maps to take place pretty much anywhere, from polar caps to dense jungles.
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>>724576279
You'd find nothing but agreement from me.
>Planetside
>Tribes
>Battlefront
>Homeworld
>Section 8
>X3
A combination of all of the above would be nice. Pipedreams will be pipedreams though.
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>>724576679
>Tribes
>Stormboyz vs Eldar jetbikes
VGH
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>>724576194
>Forgetting to mention Grail Knight Markus Kruber, who banged Kerillian.
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>>724576679
sounds nice but ps2 demonstrated that asymmetrical shooters don't really work without hard faction locks
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>oi went slow once. zog me it wuz 'orrible!
VGTG VGS
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