>blocks ur pathWhat do you do?
>>724545635Heavy infantry
>>724545635What's that teeny-weeny spike for?
>>724545635No, i'm the one who blocks his path.
I'm addicted to prophesy of pendor right now, been playing it nonstop for the past 2 days, was gonna make a thread about it soon
>>724545635*clank* lol nigger.
>>724545763Hooking the enemy's polearm
does anyone still know how to add upstab in the item_kinds.txt? i want to do it for floris evolved but the guide is only for vanilla and di(ck)plo
>>724545635Ride around them in circles while plinking arrows.
>>724545763Grabbing olives.
>>724545635just go around??
>>724545835I love the knighthood orders in that one, and I actually like the general endgame heaviness of it, too. But I don't like anything related to Noldor. It sucks that they're just objectively the best in everything, and they're your only real option for late game equipment, because they just outclass other items so much.
>>724545635fuck out the way bitch, wizardchad coming through
>>724545969Enjoy your crushing defeat once you run out of arrows and 90% of the enemy force is still perfectly fine lmao.
>>724546030>not getting to extreme late game where your entire army is your personal knight order with insane custom gear and completely retarded stats that make them even better horse archers than the giga nigga noldor knightsngmi
>>724546407But I did. And the insane custom gear is all Noldor stuff, because not even the rare stuff you get from defeating massive doomstacks can compare.
>>724545635nice try, but it's almost harvesting season
>>724545635>muh crossbowsMy Vaegir marksmen will make a pincushion out of you 3 times a day with my 14 engineering siege towers, and once all your crossbowmen are dead I'll BTFO you with marksmen and Swadian knights. Grunwalder won't save you.
>>724545763scraching your back
>>724545635I barely remember the vanilla units. I've spent maybe 5% of my time in Warband playing vanilla or vanilla+.
>>724545868clank this homo
Run backwards and quene up a 2h charged attack and release it once his AI stops blocking
>>724545635>hillniggersTie them up with my own infantry while I take my cavalry around and trounce their cuckbowmen and mop up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBlAHZ4tel0
>>724545763opening kegs
>>724545835are Noldor still the most broken pieces of shit in existence?
>>724545635Honestly that's a solid threat. There's no easy way to clear this warband, we're going to be losing some men for sure.
>play khergit>attack rhodoks castle/city
>>724545635>What doI'LL DRINK FOR YOUR SKULL
>greatest multiplayer game ever played>no one plays it anymorefucking sad man, fuck bannerlord
>>724546826And if you are fighting in the niggerhills?
>>724546980yeah, but you can still wreck their shit with heavy knights and arquebusiers
>>724545635More art like this?
>>724545635press E to start a conversation
>>724546367CRASSUS
>>724546030Yeah, I was thinking of trying to wipe them out but they are just so absurdly strong that I am inclined to try and be friendly with them to check out their content, at least for my first run.>>724546980Stupidly so, I knew to not mess with them when they sniped me from half a map away in a single shot.
Is there a reason for using spears in this game if you're not on horseback because you lose out on 2 whole attack directions out of 4
>>724548185You can stop a charging horse by hitting him with a stab attack, aside from that one/two handed weapons are generally a better choice when fighting on foot.
>>724545635
>Rhod**F1 F3
>Hrm yes time to collect taxes from my village
>>724548595>flourishing banditry industryThis is a problem?
>>724545635Will Bannerlord ever be as good as Warband?
>>724548595Bethesda games be like:
>>724548745Already is, no Rhocucks to deal with
>>724548745NoHypetrain has already left so there will be no bug mods or any kind of discussion about the game
playing as confederate is so hard. union always kicks my ass on siege.
Is there a Bannerlord mod that gives us back the og factions and map? Everything is homogenous now
>>724548745Well the battles and sieges are, everything else isn't and won't ever be. Just accept it as a sidegrade.PS. play Old Realms
>>724548947This, wtf were they thinking by changing ALL the factions.It's like making a recognized brand and then throwing it in the trash
>>724545635>get off horseCHAAAARGE!
>>724545969>400 horse lovers attack my village>100 Rhodoks come to the defense>hill advantage>10 Rhodoks lose their lives, an equivalent exchange for 400 Khergits
>>724546730Arrows getting stuck in the shield is such a cool detail
>>724548947>>724549083Not sure if there's a mod like that, but there is thishttps://www.nexusmods.com/mountandblade2bannerlord/mods/2828which adds some of the warband factions, and I recall seeing faction reworks like turning Vladians into Swadians.But I'm surprised it's an issue desu, the current factions are very clearly meant to mimic the warband ones already, and have similar troop trees and strengths as it is. Vladians are Swadians, Sturgians are Nords, Aserai are Sarranids, Khuzait are Khergit, Battanians are Vaegirs. I guess there is no good Rhodok equivalent, and the Empire is new, but other than that, it's already quite similar.
Is the general on /vg/ dead? Pretty sad to see such a long running thread get killed off by gacha shit
>>724549602Wasn't really much to talk about, aside from old mod revivals in recent months.
>>724549602Clearly wouldn't have happened if only there was a Mount and Blade game with cute scantily clad anime girls
>>724549883Yeah and you played daily to get a chance to unlock one.
>>724548745>10k hours on warband>most of those on multiplayer>most fun ive ever had in my life>bannerlord gets announced>its set before the year 1000>not really keen on that era>prefer 1200-1400s setting>still excited for the game>bannerlord gets released>play multiplayer once>only a couple of regional public servers, no private servers>combat is fucked up>no one is enjoying it>barely anyone playing (this is at launch btw)>leave and play single player>just a slightly improved warband>uninstall and never play again>now no one plays either gamethey had the potential to make the greatest game of all time and fumbled it so hard.
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>>724545763It's so if some faggot grabs the spear, when they yank it back they'll also rake the shit out of them.
Thoughts on the sailing DLC coming out soon™?
You must choose, anon.
>>724545635More slaves? Nice!
>>724551356
>>724550107Left obviously. Nice round number and cheap too.
>>724550107Right, a few villages will pay for them
>>724551543But you're loosing out on a whole point of armor!
it's almost harvesting season
>>724545823What can you even do against someone like that?
>>724545635100 Huscarls.
>>724548745It already is. I truly don't know why the diehard warband fans can't see it. Stuck in the past or obsessed with a hyper specific anime tiddy mod I guess.
>>724545835fuck man now i'm not going to work today and play that all day insteadfor me, it's the psudo-germans that pop up in huge roaming armies and dress like the swiss guardI also love the music that plays when you fight the monster/demon faction
>>724554650For me what puts me off about it is>Forced to grind skills instead of just leveling up and putting points into whatever you want (Ah yes I love standing in a blacksmith for three months to make a decent sword)>Only being able to have two industries max per character, so I'm forced to grind bandits and kidnap and ransom lords forever to make money>All companions are randomly generated with no backstory, just generic NPCs without any interesting features
>>724546367I just pick up arrows from the ground and continue plinking
>>724545635>What do you do?I order my troops to attack without me
>>724555274I like the blacksmithing system because I'm retarded but can somebody PLEASE tell me why I have a cooldown on it that can only be reset by "resting" (i.e. standing still)You can go fight for 20 days and still not be able to blacksmith after cause your dude is tired
>>724555381Oh yeah that too. Absolutely silly and I assume it's only there so you can just make a bunch of shitty swords and sell them all at once.
>>724548185lances become really good in third age against trolls
>>724545835I tried this a couple of times but kept getting my ass handed to me. Is there a strategy to making it past the early game or do I just have to gitgud?
The Warband Star Wars mod....usurping the empire, the rebellion and the cartel and forming a droid hegemony...
>>724548185spears are the bottleneck of mnb combat systemit's melee but has similar logic to shooting mechanics (locational + penetration, not swing)
>>724555637I fucking love that you can do that, man. Rebuilding a clone or droid or whatever empire is amazing and I wish more mods had cool features like that.That one dude who re-released the mod so it doesn't crash anymore is a god.
>>724555767I need to get back to it at some point and go about doing a Jawa run, whether that be as an independent or having the entire galaxy run by the Hutts
>>724548947I like it this way, now you don't have dumb shit like a faction with no archers others have no high tier infantry or no cavalry
>>724555637See this is why I cant switch to Bannerlord the mods arent as good I liked Asoiaf more than Realm Of Thrones desu
>>724546304imagine broiling a whole army alive with a spell and as you’re walking through the corpses looking for anyone who survived a half charred soldier grabs at your leg and in his last breaths smugly sneers that you didn’t engage in melee so you didn’t actually win the battle
>>724555678MnB has completely fumbled spears since inception. The whole advantage of a spear and why it was so popular for so long is that it allows you to keep your enemy at a distance. The only hard counter to a spear IRL is a longer spear. A successful block against a spear should cause knock back or a huge movement penalty, the only thing you have to do to beat a spear is black once and then close in. I guess there's their anti cavalry and mounted advantages, but spear combat in infantry-infantry engagements is completely broken.
>>724555274I actually like Bannerlord's skill system. In Warband I always end up going with one of the only two builds I do; max INT with a lance, shield and a one handed weapon, or STR/AGI focused with a two-hander and a bow. I feel like I get to pick and choose more in Bannerlord, especially considering the different perks you can take even in the same skills.>Only being able to have two industries max per character, so I'm forced to grind bandits and kidnap and ransom lords forever to make moneyThe economy in Bannerlord is utterly FUCKED, and if fact I think it's the single worst thing about the entire game. I don't know what the fuck were they thinking. Between the extremely unprofitable workshops (which you lose when a war is declared), the slow and also poor caravans (which you have to sacrifice a companion for), the horrid settlement system and the utterly broken smithing economy, I think they would struggle to design a worse functioning system. I hate it, and it sours every playthrough of mine, because economy is obviously always a central point.>>All companions are randomly generated with no backstory, just generic NPCs without any interesting featuresHonestly I didn't really care for companions in Warband, and them bickering between each other was annoying, and nothing more. Still, I'm surprised they never did add any unique companions. Doesn't seem like it would be much work, and they could just weave them in between the generic ones.
>>724558674The spear was also popular because you could be a literal chimp and use it effectively
>>724550038>announcing your early access game is le 1.0 so you can announce DLC before your game is even at feature parity with the prequel from nearly 20 years agoLeaves a very sour taste in my mouf bruv. I think I will be "sailing" the seas to acquire it desu.
>>724557462He's right and you'd spend the rest of your life thinking about that and coping to yourself.
>>724555598just endure it, get a small warband™ and suck the ass of a marshall, the king will pay out the ass to cover the cost of mercs so when you rescue high tier units just by being near a battle they are yours, from there you snowball
>>724558674Spears are great in group fights, 2v1. With a spear, you can just keep the stab held back, wait for the enemy to be forced to block another swing, and then stick it in him while he's doing it.Or alternatively force him into never being able to swing his weapon, because your spear is always there to stab him if he tries anything.Most of the value is sadly only in the multiplayer, since the AI doesn't have the sense to fight properly.
>>724555598I don't remember if it was possible right away, but it's a good idea to join a knighthood order. I think you got some gear, and I recall quests where you'd get some knights under your command for a while.
Explain why a Battain Fian can beat a Vladian Knight in melee combat
>>724559907vl*adian sissies are just underdeveloped sFAGians, so of course they are pathetic and weak
>>724545635F1 F1F1 F3simple as
This thread made me look through mods and god damn, this sounds greathttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3592533567I always loved custom troop trees, but my little warband has been discontinued and non-functional for years already. This sounds even cooler.Any other mods I should get for my new custom troop playthrough?
>>724549083I wish the game had progression where factions evolve into modern Calradian Swadians, Nords, Khergits, etc you could have this begin to happen when all Imperial factions are defated
>>724546304I know this precedes AI videos but DAMN this clip REALLY looks like AI now
>>724545763Pulling you down from your horse.
Hold a feast
>>724546367You sound like someone who would enjoy liquid gold poured down your throat.
>>724560456Harlaus go home.>>724560280I thought the same thing, but I'm sure AI would have fucked up the limb monster things and have them change form every couple of seconds.
>>724545635my Warband Steam Deck controller config is almost readyThis was one of those configs were i had to borderline glitch out steam input to make it work
>>724560784Why would you ever want to play m&b with a controller?
>>724556521Yeah, better selection of mods for whatever flavour you want and a better base set of mechanics to build off of.Don't think there's a Star Wars or Warhammer Fantasy mod for it either so there's a point minus for Bonerlord.
>>724545635WE'LL HAVE OUR PAYOR WE'LL HAVE OUR FUN
>>724561356
>>724560280>>724560695My conspiracy theory is all this ai video/image stuff existed for a while and it was only made public recently
>>724560872Its comfy, besides im obssesed with making controller configs for games that dont have itWith my current config, the left touchpad works as a normal mouse pointer, however, if you hold R1 and SWIPE the touchpad up, down, left or right, you start a swing/thrust corresponding to each of those directions, then you press R2 to finish the swing, works well, took me DAYS to get it working how i wanted
>>724561058There is a Warhammer Fantasy mod but eh it doesnt have all the races in it
>>724545635>Don't recruit anyone>Only focus on your equipment and exp>Become a one man armyAnyone else tried playing like this?It was especially hilarious against cavalry, they slammed at the border of the map and got stuck, shit was wack.
>>724545835Pendor is kino. I playd it years ago and it is among the most memorable things about Warband. Like the other guy said, the effort in the "endgame" is appreciated, since a lot of other mods, as does the native, gets very easy, very quickly. You also need to play Warband on realistic damage. Anything else is cheating.
>>724549602I used to post there alot when the dev diaries were still ongoing and that ginger bastard was employed among the t*rks. Then came Bannerlord and it sucked so bad that I never visited there again.
>>724547986>>724560687>Should I accept the Armenian King's offer of tens of thousands of soldiers and a good route into Persia?>Nah, I'll just walk through the desert.Nigga got his son and so many of his men killed before getting GOLDED all because of his pride and his need for glory and respect.
>>724562028Doesn't work because, if you play on realistic damage like you should, you'll get oneshotted with high certainty by a throwing axe or crossbow.
>>724545635>Hill>Arrows>Darts>Luckfuck you you green bastard jelkala is mine!
>>724548745I always loved Warband, but never participated in community so I wasn't familiar with the memes. Bannerlord was kinda meh early on, but at this point it's really decent for me. It's bigger, it's more feature-rich, obviously there's also lots of new funny ways to exploit the game but it's not like Warband was much better in that regard. Bannerlord also got a neat 1700 mod, even more janky than the main game, but very much enjoyable overall. I love both games.
>>724562028Yeah, it's doable unless you're fighting a huge army of archers/crossbowmen who will shred your horse and shield before you can kill all of them.
>>724560280>>724560695>>724561690Its not AI, thats a scene from the movie Noahthe rock monsters were angels
>>724564676They're fallen angels if I remember correctly, that movie was honestly kinda shit
>>724562543Dying in these games to either a throwing axe or javelin that hits your throat/head while in first person on horseback in the middle of a chaotic battle is one of the better video game moments without a doubt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVwJm7iRh5kholY FUARKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Why is starting in Khergit territory harder than starting in Nord or Rhodok land?
>>724566245because horses are op and always have been (historically)
>>724566245Steppe bandits are fast enough to chase you down at this stage of the game and they've got lances + bows that will fuck you up because you don't have good equipment yet.
>>724566217Yeah, this one is fantastic, I loved it, too
>>724545635There's nothing I can do.
Good luck loser, I'm behind a 200 Swadian knight doom stack. Good luck wrangling the AI while I simply say Charge
>>724545635Jeremus. Kill them all.fuck I miss unique companions in butterlord.
>>724548464>It's almost touring season!
>>724545635I summon blue phantoms
>>724567346Really surprised nobody added them in a mod. You'd think it would be very easy to do.
>>724549482why did total war fucking devolve as time went?
>>724566701>>724566840Are they chasing my beautiful steppe waifu? They wouldn't do anything to her if caught right?
>>724567916Erlik, you can't call your warhorse a waifu
>>724566217for me it's fighting amognst the duneshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=0wJ-NFkLsgw&list=PLYEy2OVzDfsiHeMihRno31CxS3ZFtcyPO&index=4&pp=iAQB8AUB
>>7245456351. Place my archers on a hill.2. Place my infantry halfway up the hill in front of my archers.3. Lead my cavalry to charge into the enemy formation from behind as they engage my infantry.Yes, before you ask, my IQ is above 120.
>>724546367>go back to the chest that spawns where you enter the battlegood luck im behind 27 stacks of bodkin arrows
>>724545969>sharpshoots your wannabe driveby
>>724567893that's not total war, tourist-kun
>>724562543>>724564270It's been some time, but I think I dealt with those by circling them and waiting for them to exhaust all the ammo.Of course it worked only to a point, but you can't really deal with large armies alone anyway.
>>724549228horse archniggers fear the pavisechad
>>724545635>knocks them all out with mamlukesAlright mang, I've got an offer for you and your guys: you'll work for me, I'll pay you a wage and you get to take whatever gear you like from all the maricons we'll kill, sound good?
hmm hmm hmmph....i could use some free renown....
How's the Bannerlord version of Gekkojo?
>>724565620>Bro pre- Deluge people were basically European even though from the jew perspective the middle east was the entire world so they should realistically be sand people in a desert.
>>724568902Too bad you can't actually use the pavises like that
>>724545969basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv578OKsHtQ
>>724559170Sounds like something an easily impressionable child would succumb to
Lmao do Nords and Rhodoks ride horses instead of riding them?
>>724545635No so worried about that one guy in the front but the dudes behind him will probably be a hassle
My dream life in M&B was always just being a poor nomad riding horsey from town to town across the steppes. It's not much but it's cozy.
>>724568632the complaint is still valid
>>724545635>turns you into a walking grill cooking alt pork
>>724573954I want to be that one sea raider that says "less talking more raiding"
>>724575656
>>724549602They migrated to /vst/, most strategy-related generals moved to there
TODAY THE GODS WILL DECIDE YOUR FATE!
>>724577720and the gods decided: Free byrnies for everyone!
>>724545635>place archers in two squads spread out to the sides>many arrows bypass shields due to different angles of attack>infantry in the center>harass with bow during their advance>send infantry if they get closer with a simultaneous hero cavalry charge from the back
>>724560872I played some Warband on Series X today (it was on sale, fuck it) and it’s weird to play with a controller but not unplayable. The problems come in getting to specific menus quickly as there are no hotkeys. It does have some QoL improvements to make controls in menus a little better than dragging shit around, like a take all button when looting.
>>724567893thats warsword conquest bro
>>724545635ACROSS THE RIVERLIKE A RIPE PEACHALAS I COULD NOT SWIM
>>724546367If only I had some kind of animal to ride away on.
>>724546367> leave battle> attack again> 1780 dead rhodok sergeant> crying the glorious death of 3 khergits from alcohol intoxicationnothing personal
>>724545635Call a feast and buy more butter
>>724545635Blade on a longer stickHe's probably an untrained peasant so it's not like he can defend himself. His only hope is to hit me before I hit him
>>724545835I have like 2500 hours in Warband (mostly, Geko, 1247 and BRYTENWALDA and VC) and 600 hours in WFAS but I have never played Poopsell me on it
>>724545823swadiacucks fear this
>>724546304Wizards are all bitches and don't exist outside the SURGERY skill in Warband>>724546524Based Vaegir tactics understanderYargolek should give you Rivacheg for your tactical genius
>>724545969>huge pavise shields block all the arrows>heavily armored and shielded crossbowmen pick you off>once you run out of arrows you need to either flee or get skewered ha
>>724558674They work fine in VC, WFAS and any mods which add an upstab to them, but they really did need a secondary stab which would not get totally cucked by being too close to the target-- NPCs just can't gauge distance enough for the regular stab to be effectivea saving grace is that if a polearm tickles a charging horse it at least stops it, but in Vanilla they're not great
What settings do you guys use as far as the size of battles is concerned and how do you control your units during a fight, also what strategies do you do? I always get hardstuck around the time I have a 100 man force because I'm retarded and usually ignore tactics because I don't understand them. The only thing I did in the past was:>go with cavalry at start of the battle, try to fuck up their archers, usually get shot and die before I can reach them but if I don't:>have archers on top of hills so they can shoot at enemies slowly climbing and get extra range>have infantry just behind them>move archers back while infantry advances to meet the enemy forces as they close>have archers and remaining cavalary try to flank from the side a distance away, shoot at the enemy's flank while cavalry defend themI have no idea how to counter cavalry at all and I usually avoid engaging in melee directly since even with decent armor you go down extremely quickly, and getting two or more enemies swinging on you at once is a death sentence since their own attacks can pass through each other.
>>724559245I tried to play the multiplayer a bit years ago but quickly discovered every remaining match is dominated by a couple autists with thousands of hours in the game jumping in the air, spinning 10 times while fake canceling out of their attack twice only to effortlessly chamber your swing and counter before you can even tell what angle they are attacking from. I like to think I'm decent at combat (I can block consistently and understand chambering but the timing is really funky) but I just flat out can't contend at all with people who fight like washing machines.
>>724583939difficulty curve is more like difficulty right angle and the power scaling gets pretty nuts but it is by far one of the most finished and complete feeling warband modshas some cool features like founding your own knighthood order complete with custom troops
>>724545635I press auto resolve and watch the Rhodoks advantage disappear.
>>724563330Finally, armor for me!
>mfw no really good Homeric/Mycenaean age mod was ever made using VC as the bonesOne day I'll step up and do it I swear
>>724584717Isn't that just suicide every time?
>>724584395set your archers just past the lip of the highest peak you can get to before the enemy gets to you and the infantry in front of them low enough on the slope that your archers can shoot over themif the enemy is waiting for you to come to them then use the same strat, just keep having your army hop from the highest points you can find until you're close enough for the enemy army to start movingyou counter cavalry with your own cavalryif you don't have the cavalry to do so then create another unit group of anti cav and sit them behind the archers and set their ranking deepthe AI cav will usually charge head first into your lines but will sometimes specifically target your ranged so that's when you move your anti-cav in front of your archers right before enemy cav collision the deep ranks of your anti-cav means the cav can't charge through them, leaving them stuck and easy to pick offthe enemy cav also like to chase you if you get their attention so conversely you kite the enemy cav yourself into your anti cav then have your cav follow you as you flank around back of the enemy's infantry and into their archers
>>724585545what do you mean by ranking deep?
>>724585827have your unit group stand close enough together that they form 3 or more rowsyou'll notice that cavalry is able to effortlessly trample through those single file rows that your units form by default when you tell them to hold position somewhere so naturally you want your group that takes care of the cavalry to be able to stop them by stacking up guys into more of a rectangle or squareI forget if it is vanilla or not to be able to tell your groups how many ranks to form but if it's not just tell your guy to move closer and closer together until you get some semblance of a rectangle formation
>>724585003>Mycenaean warfarebattles would be several thousand guys showing up looking generally the same, poking at each other for a few hours, and then agreeing to call it a decisive victory and go home after 7 dudes die
>>724587547that would also be authentic medieval warfare, atleast during the high middle ages but we don't have that in M&B anywayplus shit like the archeology of the Tollense Battlefield (which was roughly contemporary) shows that big fuckoff ptiched battles with several hundred casualties did happen
>circle strafe and feign retreat them to death with my enormous army of horse archers
