Competition bad. Epic bad. Piracy bad. Simping for corp greed good. BRB going to buy a steam deck and post on YouTube about how it changed my lifeā¦
Newell's ass steam huffers are in a cult.
>>724545713Based Gabe, he deserves it.
>>724545713Aren't yachts like those one of the most air and water polluting thing on the planet?Glad I play games on PlayStation 5 and not support Gaben's cancer ships.
>>724545713You forgot:>Not owning your games... ?>Actually good!
Competition is good. But there is none, because nobody does it better or even half as good as Steam. Valve isn't going to become shittier just so you can compete from your fortnite pigsty, Timmy.
Boomers really thought some microsoft jew was their best friend lmao, what a bunch of cucksThanks for the money losers
>>724545713>be boat enthusiast >actually have enough money to own boatsgodspeed you magnificent bastard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSvvvrKhx0wdo steamies even know what yachts are used for?
>>724545838>Aren't yachts like those one of the most air and water polluting thing on the planet?like, compared to what?vehicle wise? yeah that's not greatcompared to a small datacenter in a bedroom community city?lol it's nothing
>>724545885I fucking hate the ocean. It hides all of the lovecraftian horrors the Koreans are busy eating and the Japanese are busy fucking.
the competition is among the games which steam encouragesit's just a store. if not steam then sony, microsoft, walmart, whoever would take the cut wherever people buy the game. many devs also sell on their own website
>>724545982I don't think even the ocean is big enough to hide your mother.
>>724545960good morning, I hate women
>>724545838Nah, that would be container ships registered in Liberia to sidestep emission regulations and burn the shittiest bunker fuel. Nobody cares about the Colombian crew on that ship, and docks are a buffer zone from the public so they don't breathe it as much. Private yachts are usually at least somewhat clean because big guy on the yacht- as well as other big guys in the marina where it'll dock- will breathe that air.
>another day another EGS shill malding and crying that steam exists and EGS isnt even peoples 2nd option No matter how many threads you spam it isnt going to make people use EGS
>>724545713>Not a Saud prince or hedge fund manager, but Harvard dropoutYou can just taste the "how dare these peasants get rich" undertone there.
i don't give a fuck if Gaben buys 50 yachts as long as the service he provides is good.
>>724545838Shut the fuck up commie
>>724545856BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH-But RAAAAAANDY said Epic gud
>>724545713He earned it.
>DUDE DISRUPTION LMAOthis is why timmy and amazon flopped as game stores
>>724546275Silly clueless plebeian. He was a Microsoft millionaire even before Valve.
>>724546201IS that why they are all registered in Liberia? Just for emissions stuff?
>>724545838Worry more about third world overpopulation. They will eat every animal, burn every tree, and shit in every river and lake.
>400 mil for a boatI dont feel so bad about pirating games anymore
>>724545713Valve isn't corporate greed though. It is a private company which does whatever the fuck it wants. Steam would be a trillion times worse if the company was publicly traded.
>>724545838Its one of those stupid ass infos.Sure its a lot of carbon footprint(fake and gay by the way) for one person to have.But its not even close to being that polluting.Especially compared to what other vessels traverse the oceans in a daily basis.
>>724546582https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_convenience
>>724546594Pirates were the good guys all along.
>>724546540Lol i never even heard of prime gaming.
Envy is not morality. He got rich by doing consensual trade with millions of people. There is no shame in that, even if you are starving in the street because your cocksucking money went to a coke habit. Gabe created value for millions of people.
If Tencent Timmy wants to compete with Valve, why doesn't he just make a better storefront with cheaper games and better deals?The ploy of throwing a bunch of garbage games at people to buy their loyalty is such a Tim move honestly. He has zero idea for human nature works or understanding of the fact that people value their steam profiles specifically because it's a curated collection they paid for, not a bunch of random shit that got shovelled at them like in egs.
>>724546661I always thought she was cute.
>>724545838Small fry in comparison to what China & India put into the air.
>invents drm store cancer>invents you will own nothing>invents lootbox cancer>invents paid mod cancer>censors community hub, reviews etc.>community bans you for making negative reviewssavior my assfucking murderersink his shipsskin his skintake his wealth of his handsdown with steam
>>724545838Take five seconds to ask yourself "Where does all the waste go on a cruise ship?" and you'll quickly realize how much worse things can get.
>>724546851You sound like an envious communist who is angry about people becoming successful through the free market of capitalism. Kill yourself poorfag.
>>724545713I knew he was a greedy fat kike the moment orange box forced me to install steam.
>>724545713>Piracy badIronically enough, Steam's shitty DRM allows hackers to crack 99% of Steam games in less than 8 hours.
>>724546757All middlemen are leeches.
>>724547038Timmy please
>>724546803Timmy doesn't want to take the long route of building reputation and trust and it was a lopsided fight to begin with.Steam is as convenient as you can get and even if you can make something that can equal or surpass it, its still good enough. And people are attached to whatever games they bought and the memories they made with it.
>>724547093>YOU ARE JUST x OKAY? I WINNot an argumentcope and sneed drone
gabe looks after me, i look after him. leave his yacht alone.of all the shitty fucking software i have to put up with in my life, steam works and is convenient and has decent prices.when gabe dies and the company goes public it will all go to shit, of course. that's why i'm personally loyal to gabe, not steam. he has a good product and in two decades it hasn't been enshittened to squeeze more profits out of it by running it into the ground. that's good. that's worth defending.
>>724545713>Turdies still seething how this man turned their virtual knives into trash with 1 simple trick
>>724546589and they will still pollute less than you.
>>724547038>invents all those things to make his store work better, doesn't go overboard with them>everyone else picks those things up and milks them dry>gaben still keeps those things at a reasonable level despite that
Reminder VALVE literally does nothing, not even servers. Everything is handled by business partners. EVERYTHING.Literal rent seeker middle man.This post will make shills cry tears.
>>724547062>>724547027>>724546650>Why the yacht is so extreme: a typical 50ā90 m superyacht can burn ~500ā2000 liters of diesel per hour at cruising speed. Thatās on the order of 60ā160 kg of CO2 per km for the vessel, so even split among a dozen guests you still get kilograms of CO2 per person-kmāorders of magnitude above flying or driving
>>724545713I'm trying to slowly migrate off of Steam, because Newell didn't make the Steam Bank or the Steam Credit Card. I don't like Visa, or Mastercard. They suck and should be replaced with an apolitical, neutral institution.
>>724546757Yea, he never called me nazi so I'm happy for his success.
>>724545713So what scientific research has he done so far with it?
even with all the money in the world why would you want the head ache of maintaining a yacht? just get a normal 1 to 2 storey house dude. what's he hiding?
>>724547365Isn't Gabe doing brain research or something
>>724547393How does the yacht help with that?
>>724547261Life doesn't work that way. A few rich with yacht doesn't have much impact, whereas an Indian textile factory does. Forcing India & China to stop polluting will have a significantly higher impact on planetary health than stopping some wealthy person from playing with a toy.
>>724546594>even video game piracy is connected to boatswoah
>>724546617>Valve isn't greedy>takes 30% cut for hosting an .exe
>>724545713Go make another game I care about free and I'll launch EGS to claim it, Timmy. No, I still won't actually spend any money, but you can include me as an "user" in your stats! Great deal, right?
>>724547284and what? go to a more heavily moderated platform that will still get debanked?
>>724547393Starfish is his brain implant company.Inkfish is his ocean research company.
>>724545838>Aren't yachts like those one of the most air and water polluting thing on the planet?No.
>>724547168I can sense how brown and poor you are through my monitor.
What's with the huge ass sonar?
>>724547446If it's such a shit deal no one would take it. But they do. Because being on Steam adds value. Which Steam deserves to be paid for.
>>724546540Why don't these fucks just try to do what steam does but better?
Surely anything you can do on a yacht you can do comfier on land?
>>724547485iirc the boat is about ocean research particularly finding new species so i assume it's gonna go to really remote places
>>724547168
>>724545960God I hate women with their easymode life
>>724547365Heās starting deep sea research to determine if viscous is really running from terrors of the deep or if heās just a big fat green phony
>>724545838Yeah man, totally. They have a toxic waste tailpipe and leave dead fish in their wake.
>>724546540They were trying to compete?
>>724547540if you find a way to do sonar scans of the ocean floor from your living room you've got a billion dollar idea.
>>724547640Sure Gabe, you're totally a scientist.
>>724545838nobody gives a shit about the environment
>>724547517No, it's all about taking down the big bad monopoly by any means necessary! What's a shopping cart?
i'm just gonna say it, the only reason to live on a yacht is to rape children in lawless waters
>>724545838more like the largest populations that dispose of their trash in the most neanderthal ways like a tip site. Looking at you America
>>724547681I do because I'm white. I suggest we exterminate all shitskins and turn their countries into wildlife preserves.
>>724547667it's the only way they'll be able to accurately take a full picture of your mother.
>>724547541The borealis shit becomes clearer.
>>724547497They do because nobody buys PC games anywhere else
how is steam a monopoly?
>>724547767Africa ironically could feed the entire planet.
>>724545838Yachts pollute so much they're killing the entire world and we should all ban yachts from rich people who are killing the entire world right now1 billionaire having 1 yacht = 1 planet destroyed by pollution, there are at least 20 yachts in the world, that's 20 whole planets worth of pollution destruction, we have only one planet!!!!
anyone else think gabe might be a little sociopathic? every single interview with him hes always monotone and seemingly uncaring. in the half life 2 documentary, he said he was swimming in south africa and had a close encounter with a shark. he merely kicked it away and continued to say he hasnt felt fear since. he thought fear was stupid and couldnt understand it. hes always made really good games, but didnt hesitate to work with experts to bring casinos and economies to them.
>>724547825you have to release a pc gamewhat you do?1. release it on steam and sell because every consoomer already uses it for convenience (their steam libraries are big so they won't leave)2. self host/release somewhere else and no one gives a shit
>>724547517But that's haaaard
>>724547808hmmmmm i wonder why......
>>724547932I wouldn't call that a monopoly, more the industry couldn't complete. GoG does alright on a smaller scale.
I don't use steam tho
>>724547932that's not a monopoly that's just being exceptionally good at your jobif steam was bundled with computers like Windows that'd be a monopoly, or if steam prevented people from selling in other platforms, but steam do none of those things
>>724547808So that means that Steam adds a boatload of value, so much so that almost everyone wants to do business there, and they deserve to be compensated for that.
>>724547932i would release it everywhere because i'm not a stupid faggot
>>724545713I don't care about what boat he spends his money on, I care about the service I get when using Steam, which is far better than anywhere else (with an exception for GOG being DRM-free).
>>724545713>Gaben keeps to himself and plays with his expensive toys>Timmy bitches and moans on Twitter all day while filing lawsuits
>>724547446Hosting ain't cheap.
>>724548007>>724548024This monopoly is no accident. They used steam exclusivity, steam sales back in day to pull retards into their little system so they build their libraries and now they always buy their shit from steam for convenience as in they don't want to use another launcher when they have this huge steam library already. No steam = No buy is a real thing among retards.What's more you can't sell a game somewhere else cheaper or else steam removes your game from store. Valve knows what they are doing.
>>724545713>owning things is.... LE BAD.Hello /lpol/
>>724548198Yet you don't own your games on steamI bet you feel real stupid now dumbass
>>724545713Based. I helped pay for that research.
>>724548246I don't care. 90% of them I don't play ever again anyway.
>>724548194I bought games from pretty much every store out there (except EGS, Timmy the Swine can eat shit with his exclusivity bribes) and Steam is still by far the best. GOG is also worth it for the DRM-free installers.
>>724545713I don't see any competition. Is any of that "competition" offering a better solution than Steam?
>>724547556Valve isn't a monopoly. There is a gaming store and subscription service built into your operating system.
>>724548301>I don't care.You clearly do care enough to seethe though
>>724548194Epic has been giving away free games for almost a decade and lots of people have bigger EGS libraries than Steam libraries, yet EGS sales are still fucking dogwater. Maybe people just like Steam?
>>724545713>PLEASE USE EPIC STOREnah
>>724548459Steam also gives away shitty games constantly retard.
>>724545713Gaben is a deep sea chad, only white people can understand
>>724548574Steam doesn't give away any games lmao.Dev's can decide to give away their games for free. Valve is not doing that like Epic does, who also pay devs for exclusivity.
>>724545713>Scientific ResearchNice tax write off there.Good for him.
>>724548535>you don't want le cancer so you wish to have le aids???
>>724548634Cause you use Yachts for deep sea research, not submarines. You deploy robots. Getting people down there in submarines provides no benefit
>>724545713Make a better service Tim.
>>724548194It's not like they're a utility company with an exclusive contract, competition is open to this day. Microsoft has the financial power to make a games store, and they did, it just sucks so no one uses it. EGS pissed people off with exclusively deals, no one likes those even with consoles. Origin was essentially spyware. Valve won cause they were pro-consumer, maybe other companies could try being pro-consumer too.
>>724549086>maybe other companies could try being pro-consumer toocool it with the antisemitism
>>724548198That's actually Reddit. Pol complains about kikes but doesn't hate all wealthy people. Reddit is green with jealousy to the point they want all single family homes demolished.
>>724549157>we should follow reddits exampleretard
>>724545982Well Gaben wants to find and photograph all those lovecraftian horrors.
>>724549157fuck u i love not owning my games
>>724549157What have they done wrong other than idling on HL3? The state of modern video games is not their fault.
Isn't it ironic that TImmy actually gives back to gaming by making an Engine anyone can use and it barely costs devs anything to use it, while Gaben doesn't do anything for gaming other than having a DRM store and leading the front of anti-consumer practices.And the same redditors that HAAAAATES billionaires defend that someone like Gaben owns 10 yatchs and is the single most jewish person in gaming.
>>724545713Steam is a really well designed platform with a multitude of functionality, and it's easy to use. If people have an issue with this, they can simply create a better storefront.
>>724547438Human traffick lolis and shotas to turn into killers to genocide the goy
Have fun at the front, Artyom.
>>724548459Well riddle me this: If I can get games for free on EGS, why would I pay for them? Free > paying.That said I don't actually even claim free games on EGS because I don't support console wars on PC.
>>724545713maybe the competition should fucking try instead of buying PC exclusives like epic is doingmake a useable fucking store
>>724549254muh monopoly muh child casino
>>724549176Nah, these days /pol/ is full of seething third-worlders with pseudo-socialist ideas. They hate private property. They use the whole "We hate kikes" as a way to disguise what they really want: to steal wealth.
>>724549298>just make your own country bro
>>724549406>That said I don't actually even claim free games on EGS because I don't support console wars on PC.But its VaIvedrones that are fueling the console war on PC, the moment a dev doesn't release a game on Steam they will act like it's the end of the world and cry like crazy.
lmao the EGS schizo was ashamed of their general failure in reading comprehension
>>724549481Valve isn't paying them to do it. Epic is. If I give any money or business to EGS, they will pay for these console warriors to do shit like this. If I give my money to or use Valves service, they'll spend it on yachts or something. The latter is clearly superiour if I don't want to support console war.Some grassroots retards whining that they can't buy game on Steam doesn't affect me in any way. I will buy a game I want to play as long as EGS isn't the only option. If it's EGS exclusive I will not buy it, even if I think it's interesting or worth playing.
>>724549406Those free games are always shit though. No classics. No roms. No jrpgs.
>>724549630>Valve isn't paying them to do it.I can bet you right now there's a Steam deck shill thread on /v/ that's filled with the usual "nintendo BTFO" up right now like it has been 24/7 for years.And your money you spend on Steam goes directly to jews anon, Valve outright works with SBI and support crap like BLM.If you buy stuff on Steam you support all the shit that is killing gaming right now, and don't try and claim that "BLM and DEI" is based now.
>>724545713Steam is great, Epic is shit, I use GoG when I can.
>>724549553explain how that post did even make sense. it is quoting two unrelated posts while making no point. LMAO>steam never paid devs for exclusivity or forced them to give out games for freeSo for no reason you quote "EGS is paying devs to force exclusivity and free games"This is literally schizo nonsense supporting the "steamie" point. Let's make this simple for you:Steam: Let's devs do whatever they want(enforcing price parity seems fair(devs can sell steamkeys themselves and valve gets 0% from that))EGS: buys exclusivity and gives away free games to inorganically capture marketSo customers and devs like Steam.
redditors somehow still scratching their heads because they can't understand why steam is succesfull will never not be funny to meit's honestly very simple, it's a service which forces the corps to pay up and gives it all away to the customersit's really, really that simple, imagine a mcdonalds, but instead of the price of everything constantly going up and the food getting worse and your meat patties getting smaller, they instead started fucking over the meat processing plants, the farmers, the ad companies, basically any and all third parties, all so that they can invest in better seatings for their restaurants, additional staff to provide additional services to the customers, extra ways to allow customers to enjoy their goods, etc etc>reeee nooo capitalism bad, you can't create a succesful customer first corpo!!!!!gabe is so fucking based
>>724545960kek
>>724545713There's a 99.9% chance gaben is a pedo and doing pedo shit on his yachts .
>>724550084>"NNOOOOO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE FUN WITH CUTE GIRLS ON YOUR COOL BOATS, MY FAVORITE LEFTIST YOUTUBER SAID THIS IS BAD!"
>>724549879>So customers and devs like Steam.not a single real person talks like thisdo you even try?
>>724550165You break 1 loli you marry her. At gunpoint.
>>724545713Gaben is the saviour of video games
>>724549772>Epic literally putting millions into lobbying for UK style age verificationRest of the money goes to Kamala Harris....
>>724549772What are you saying that democrats are advertising Steam Deck on /v/ in return for Valve funding for their political party? Seems contrived as fuck. Valve isn't even making money on the Steam Deck. Sounds to me like you're making an argument for piracy. That's great and all but I'm not jumping through hoops to pirate everything.
>>724550189Is that another post making no point?Or are you literally asserting that no one likes steam while complaining about people liking steam....
>>724550359you don't have argumentsyou just say people like being corpo bootlickers like that is an argument for defending anything
>>724547234By burning coal and not having nuclear energy?
Do not reedem the steame card, saar!
>>724547912he's autistic, retard. The shark story is a perfect example of this, the way he tells the story is literally like an autist humble bragging about something in a cringe way
>>724550347>What are you saying that democrats are advertising Steam Deck on /v/ in return for Valve funding for their political party?No, that's the valve indians. The VP of Valve is an indian
>>724550507Steam Deck isn't available in India.
>>724550403>ignores all points>"YOU HAVE NO POINTS"Top of the retards right here.This is all about how Valve does not enforce exclusivity or as was posted "They used steam exclusivity, steam sales back in day to pull retards into their little system ..."This is what EGS does. Steam doesn't. That is what you refuse to address in your schizo posts. Never mind that "Maybe people just like steam" was an unrelated post by someone else. Go troll in another thread. Bye.
>>724550013The communists can only think in terms of force. Seeing someone rich by the consensual trading of its customers makes them seethe in cognitive dissonance. They implore you (by force if they can) to give everything you create away, in the hope that they get to live off of your surplus value. It's the entire reason they try to revolutionize countries instead of just buying their own land. They can't survive off their own value, they need yours and will take it by force in the name of "equity".
>>724545713Nice boat.
>>724550574Steam has around 20k exclusive games that FORCES you to use steam anon
>>724546481I really wish Randy was dead.
>>724550605>communists use force instead of treachery to get what they wantwtf? i love commies nownot really. commies are exact same shit as capitalist shills. a bunch of liars trying to control their little imaginary worlds
>>724545713He has money so he bad!
Game devs just want to get rid of Steam because of the Steam TaxThere is no benefit to the average consumer to switch to EGS, it is a significant downgrade.Not even a 50/50 split is beneficial, the store just sucks plain and simple. Its like they dont even try to improve it either.
>>724550806yep
>>724550801Capitalism merely means that your individual property rights are inalienable. Force is replaced by persuasion and personal consent. You have been psyopped by communists to think that capitalists are the current lobbyists that try and use government force to tax/regulate their competition out of existence. That is cronyism, not capitalism.
>>724550840Must suck being a dev today and release your game outside of Steam and get BOMBARDED with VaIvecultists screaming "PUT IT ON STEAM SAAAR!"
>>724550881>le it's not real capitalismyou sound just like commies
>>724550885Yeah, must suck losing all those people who would otherwise buy your game?What kind of a retarded argument is that? Sell it in both, nobody is forcing any deals on you.
>>724549772>Valve keeps bribing US politicians and work with SBI and crap so they can keep doing anti-consumer stuff>still gets fucked by EU and Aussies for breaking basic consumer right stuff
even in rich people land, 400 mio just seems obscene
>>724550885I am pretty sure that the part which sucks is nobody buying it. If there was cultists screaming at you but you still sold a billion copies it wouldn't make a single difference.
>>724550925You sound uninformed.
>>724550691HL2 is a Valve game. Crazy that they sell it on their own store huh. This the best you got? They got a monopoly on their own games??? Well i'll be damned, oy vey, such anti competitive behaviour.>>724550769It seems you just misrepresent what exclusivity means. Steam has not forced any of these games to be exclusive to their store. At worst it was the devs freely deciding to not release in other stores. And they aren't even forcing devs to use their DRM. I can run games like Crusader Kings without steam running at all. And theres DRM free games on Steam.
>>724550949>Steam users>buying gameslol, just lmao>>724550986And why does that matter to me as the consumer? Exclusive is exclusive no matter what the reason, makes zero difference to me as a consumer.
>>724550885This doesn't happen, you subhuman retard.
>>724551029It says so right there, "private ownership". That's private property.
>>724547250and yet they're more profitable AND loved by the average consumer than any of their competitors. really makes you think how incompetent their competition must be
>>724550986Fucking shill.You would buy hl2 retail (it stands for physical copy) and you couldn't even play it unless you downloaded steam.Fucking shill.
>>724551057Lookup stuff about the new Heroes of Newerth games, Steam drones are literally shitting up every discussion crying about Steam release.
>>724547376Heās hiding the fact since that the dude hates being around people now because he got so insanely scared of Covid and being sick that living in a yacht seems safer for him
>>724551068you said capitalism merely means your belongings can't be taken away but they absolutely can bethe end game of capitalism by it's definition is owning everything and profiting of that by rent seekingeven google says that"private ownership for profit"but enough about definitionsnot like anyone knows what the fuck anything they strongly believe in even is
>>724551043>lol, just lmaoWhat reality do you live in?https://wccftech.com/steam-users-buy-games-theyre-never-going-to-play/
>>724551078They just get useful retards and shills like youThat's itNo one fucking simps for amazon for example
>>724551213Those are 10 cent games from humble bundles anon
>>724547245How is āyou do not own your games, you are buying a licenseā not going overboard?
>>724551240>source: my ass
>>724545838Absolutely, you're being replied to by bots who want to hide or downplay it. They emit more than some small countries and people who own them want us to eat bugs
>>724545713stop rage baiting me by attacking my daddy gabe. He could've crowdfunded the money for the yacht and I would give him all I can because he's my hero
Its crazy how Valve is the pioneer of most of the bad stuff in PC gaming and gaming in general, is the proto-woke company that was woke before it was even a thing, they work with Sweet Baby Inc and hire devs that are outspoken BLM supporters, they buy up the single most woke studios and gaming devs and yet they have not really made any games in decades.Still retards here (indians) worship them like they are gods. They are basically the reason the golden age of PC gaming ended.
>>724545713>Competition badThis is just a fact. All the competition is just straight up worse in every aspect.
>>724551230again, its unequivocally still the best storefront and platform for pc gaming, so it doesnt really matter how shit they are
>>724551195>not like anyone knows what the fuck anything they strongly believe in even isAnd that is a problem I am solving by being crystal clear about definitions. Otherwise you get postmodern language rapists. Capitalism simply means that you do not have a right to someone else's property. In that definition they kept it to industry but it should apply to all property. That's because you use your body to earn your property. To take, for example, 5 years of your income away from you is to make you 5 years my slave retroactively.>you said capitalism merely means your belongings can't be taken away but they absolutely can beThey absolutely can be because we are in a mixed economy where companies and the government are in bed together to protect existing companies at the expense of small businesses that can't keep up with increasing tax/regulatory pressure. Divorce the economy and the state, just like we did with church and state.
>>724551043>Exclusive is exclusive no matter what the reason, makes zero difference to me as a consumer.You want Valve to force devs to release on other stores or what??? What the fuck is this reasoning? It's not a Steam problem that other stores suck so much devs don't want to use them. Go complain to the developers/publishers.>>724551091>Can't play the Valve game without the Valve serviceOh my god, what's next? Can't play a Valve game without running Valve code?!? Things could be better( all open source, DRM-free), but Valve is still the most pro-consumer bizz in the bizz.Even their multiplayer games like DotA2 all have a LAN mode, no Kernel level anti-cheat and easy to break DRM. They won't milk their products even when their competitors do(like you can't play LoL at LAN parties without connecting to Tencent servers).
Why didn't epic just compete on pricelike instead of a 30% cut they take a 10% cut and have a permanent 20% discount on everything vs. steamwho could be such a cuck they'd buy games on Steam at that point? But Epic never tried.
>>724545713Good for Gaben. Knew he could make it.
>>724547517Because they all actually believe Steam does nothing and they can get away with less than nothing
>>724551490It's crazy but people are waking up. Shills end up looking more unhinged to normal people every time gaben buys another yacht. Savior of gayming my ass.
>>724551509Valve sends their indians shill to harass devs that refuse to release games on steam
EGS offers devs a better deal but not for the people buying the gamesThe games certainly arent cheaper on EGS
>>724551581>make up 20 new lies on the spot every thread
>>724545713>Hardly anyone cares about PC gaming for 20 years>This is somehow Valve's fault.
>>724545838It's powered by Gabens recycled farts and sharts. It's positively net positive.
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>>724551043>>724551240>Gabe buys super-yachts off of 10 cent humble bundles that no one buysBased>>724551490Well they never milk it as bad as the competition despite inventing it.They learned their lessons on loot boxes in TF2 and only do cosmetics.>>724551581Based. See? That is the schizo conspiracies i want to see. All those indians must be shilling so hard cause they want valve to finally sell the Steam Deck in India.a
>>724546540And these retardfuck CEOs are paid millions of dollars for this shit. Anyone could tell you that steam is on top because it just does everything better than any other store (GoG has a niche). As soon as their bag of MBA tricks (financial bullying, marketing) runs dry they're helpless. And this applies to all of society. Death to CEOs and death to publically traded companies.
>>724547442Or you could just build nuclear plants. The same motherfuckers that spent the 60s and 70s effectively killing any hope of new nuclear should have their throats slit the instant they make even the slightest complaint about carbon emissions.
>>724551654>PC gaming was the biggest, all the good games and everything good about it was BEFORE the moment steam got popular>the moment Steam became the norm is nearly the exact moment PC gaming diedYeah pure coincident anon
>>724547245this got me mad enough to reply>invents all those things to make his store work better, doesn't go overboard with themhow do loot boxes and overpolicing of the steam community make the store work better you faggot? was the deletion of the steam forums absolutely necessary to make the checkout work?>everyone else picks those things up and milks them dry>gaben still keeps those things at a reasonable level despite thatyeah the "reasonable level" of a 30% cut of all sales and battle passes where you cant even get the first notable item without spending over $100, how generous of himsteam used to be decent in the late 00s early 10s but after 2015ish they went all in on becoming a ship of theseus that replaced any of the good boards at the company with dogshit, all while doubling down on all of the horrible practices that stopped being necessary for business a decade ago
>>724551709Maybe they should release it on Steam.
I don't get how you can still be a steam fag with that yacht OP. What's wrong with steam cultists?
>>724547517because they have their head so far up their own asshole they think millions of will flock to their platform if they have an exclusive. that's retarded in and of itself, but they are also so full of shit that they don't realize that they're just encouraging every desperate hack team to flock to them because no one else would be willing to miss out on 90-99% of their sales for a one time lump sum payment unless they had no faith their game was going to sell in the first place.
>>724545713>>724546540>do nothing but give the custumers the best possible online shop ever>win
>>724549085Id rather Timmy focused on engine. Gaben has Steam, Timmy has an engine. What is there to bitch about? Instead of being good with his product like Gaben is, Timmy decided he wanted a slice of pie. Why not co-operate? Make Unreal engine actually good, and make it work very nicely with Steam Deck and whatnot.
>>724545713>buy superyacht>instead of driving around doing nothing or trying to destroy historical bridges use it to researchkinda based
>>724551514i think valve/steam has a clause where you cant sell the game for cheaper on other platforms if you want to sell on steam, or something like that. i think they could have fairly easily bypassed that clause with a points crediting system or something similar, but they just never tried very hard. i truly think it was mostly powered by timmy's delusion that he could court developers with a better cut and thus make them strong-arm the consumers. you know, he and his ilk originally almost killed PC gaming (and blamed piracy), then followed the consumers to consoles, then basically killed consoles, then followed the consumers back to PC and is now trying to kill PC gaming again. i think he just can't stand the idea of actually treating his clientele with anything but seething contempt and acts of force.
>>724545713>Self made billionaire benefiting from his life's work and doing good by his clients, employees and the environment is bad.> Reee I want to consume slop!! Competition good, corpos good!You should finally consider using that rope in your father's garage.
epic has such a braindead ui honestly whoever thought it was a good idea should be shot
>>724551956Timmy is a massive narcissist with a messiah complex who thinks he's saving the world from the evil Valve and Apple taking 30%.
>>724551843I pay him my money because I like his service the best. He is then free to do with his property (formerly my money) whatever he wishes. Me exercising ownership over the money once I spent it is evil and tyrannic.
>>724551992that was bullshit, that rule is about selling actual steam keys that would be redeemed on steam, not shit on a separate platform or no platform
The seething about valve and steam from these other companies never ceases to amuse me. It is obvious that it is fueled by nothing but blind jealousy.
Fact: gay ben is the Henry Ford of video game distribution.
>>724551029>only oligarchs engage in capitalismNot much value in this dictionary.
>>724546070>>724547564Seething incel
>>724551753Well, get to it
>>724552005how dare you, a virtual keyboard popping up when trying to log in on PC is peak UI design.Having to "buy" free games is smart design.Putting the Unreal Asset library on a different website was not a retarded changeBeing able to Login with your Lego account is not stupid
>>724552101Based, Henry Ford is the reason we have a 5 day/8 hour a day work week instead of 6 days/ 12 hours a day. And he did it all in the private sector, no government force needed. Absolute chad.
>>724552000He gets money working with SBI anon...
>>724552103at least google is defining the real life capitalism and not the imaginary capitalism anons are thinking about
>>724550691Howcome Epic is not selling Unreal games on its store? Huh? HUH?!
>>724546481The fuck expertise does a magician have to talk about videogames?
>>724552152I don't have the patience for stealth games.
>>724550881All capitalist countries have and have always had eminent domain so going by that true capitalism has never been tried
>>724552205Real life capitalism is why you are allowed to choose where you work, it's not just something the 1% deal with.
>>724547517They simply don't understand the market they're trying to capture.If you gave anyone here on /v/ (well, any organic user, not epic shills) a couple billion and absolute control, I bet they could beat Steam in a decade, assuming they don't just grab the money and run.
>>724552101Gaben hates jews?!?!?!
>>724552157AND he was wary about the jews!
>>724552264You are right, true free market capitalism and true top-down communism have never been tried. Almost communism has brought us nothing but mass death and famine, while almost capitalism has brought us untold levels of wealth that people wouldn't believe would exist if you told them about it 100 years ago.
>>724552350>jew hating jewyou wish
>>724551992yes but epic uses game store exclusivity so steam cant sell the game anywaymight as well hit two birds with one stone
>>724552087i maybe just misunderstood it because it was the only way timmy's strategy made any sense at all. like it's absurd how his very first act for his new storefront was to burn non-existent goodwill by locking a bunch of games as exclusives on his shitty platform. like even if you are anti-steam or whatever, i get it, we all need to earn a living, you must admit that it's gay as fuck to be strong-armed onto some specific platform as some kind of meeple to be sold as a data point to investors
>>724552364communist china pulled like a billion people out of abject poverty
>>72454744630% is industry standard. Kikerosoft, snoy, bintendo, jewgle, crapple, literally any digital distribution store takes that. Compared to them, Steam offers by far the most in return, not only for customers but also developers.
>>724552486How much do you get paid shilling steam saar? Are you the one making sure the board has a 24/7 steam deck thread up as well?
>>724547517if they competed on price and quality they would end up only winning by making a plaform that has very thin margins. For techbros that would be just be a big waste; they want to be the big rentier like Steam is, not to turn a game storefront into a commodity business. So that means the goal is to replace Steam without being better than Steam.
>>724551776Oh so PC gaming isn't a niche and every major publisher just ignored it until recently for no reason? Do they just not like money?
>>724552542>im not shilling, you are!!brilliant new script bro
>>724545713it's not gabe's fault that amazon and epic and google and whoever else are filled with incompetent boobs who can't make a storefront with any decent features or good UIsteam basically just wins by default, since they're the only ones who made some software that isn't completely miserable to try and use. the bar is so fucking low
>>724552416No it didn't. After the CCP became involved in business, becoming fascist, is when some set of chinese were pulled out of poverty.
>>724547556Monopolies are only bad if the compamy itself is bad. Valve is privately owned, and the owner is benevolent. A situation like on PC with Steam is literally the best market situation for customers.
>>724552578What the fuck are you talking about?
>>724549772but blm and dei are based tho
>>724552416They did that by having a very select party-friendly elite be able to have their own capitalist companies, but only just enough to keep the ship afloat. And even then they still don't hit economic levels like the US, even though they have thrice the population, have you ever wondered why that is? One can only imagine if they actually let their people free, their wealth would reach unimaginable levels.
>>724552596steamie schizos unironically believe everyone else is shill but thembefore epic they called everyone "ea marketers"don't trust anything steamm drones say
>>724545838Nuking India would help climate change more than any paper straw initiatives.
>>724552380If alyx was running around looking like an oversexualized y2k character nobody would be able to take the half life setting seriously. What we got was a skinny, pretty young woman with delicious 2 cm midriff
>>724552542How come the devs selling on Steam don't have a problem with the 30%? What i see in indie game dev circles is everyone being really happy with all the marketing, networking and distribution that those 30% get you. Not even speaking about the stuff Valve gives you for free like Steam Audio libraries that don't even require you to use/release on Steam at all.
>>724552542Yes. I am singlehandedly responsible for every post on the board, nay, the whole internet that you personally dislike. The best part? I do it for free.
>>724552763Because devs will get harassed and spammed by indians if they don't >>724551709
>>724545713All "deep sea research" is just a cover operation for tapping undersee cables and salvaging top secret shit off the ocean floor.The expedition ship that found the the Titanic wreck was actually on a military mission finding lost nuclear subs. Finding the Titanic just the cover story.tl;drGaben is CIA
>>724552763How much do you get paid for posts like this? Seriously I'm curious.
>>724552639>>724552686>TRUE COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED>"hit economic levels like the US"You mean the country with the worlds strongest military which it uses to extort everyone else via the Exorbitant Privilege of the Dollar, printing inflation and sending it abroad?
>>724552657PC as a platform would have more than fucking steam as it's most viable option if it had been a major part of the gaming market like you suggest.
>>724552707wasnt it revealed during the epic apple court case that epic routinely and covertly hires shills to support whatever they are trying to dohttps://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/epic-admits-it-personally-created-advocacy-group-to-target-apple
>>724545838You're thinking of the container ships that the world's green globalized economy runs on, shipping giant lithium batteries from third world industrial wastelands to you to save the world at your expense. They run on the tar sludge left over when you extract the gasoline and diesel from crude oil and emit more pollutants with every ocean voyage than 10,000 cars do in their entire operational lifetime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_fuel_oil
>>724547393No ethic committees in international waters.
>>724552891>>724552829Sorry reality doesn't line up with your believes. Go ahead and do your own research. Ask indie devs why they release on Steam. And don't act like Reddit posts are a major concern lmao
>>724552963Yes anon there's a reason every single big game was NOT on Steam and still today all the biggest PC games are NOT on steam.>>724552992>Searching for posts with the image hash āLVUW0uSA5FMT7t/CzGIb1A==ā. 63 results found.And this is also knowing for a fact that you keep changing the image.
>>724545713What horrible research will be performed at open sea?
>>724552931>IF FREE MARKET GOOD WHY GOVERNMENT DO BAD THING?One day you will achieve self-awareness. Godspeed, retard-kun.
>>724547517because most CEOs are horrible at their job and they literally couldnt achieve that even if they had infinite resources, and on top of that most of them are so far up their asses that theh dont even think that making a good product or service is a good business strategy
>>724545713look retard it's not my fault the competition just shoots themselves in the foot all the fucking time?For example he fights for games on linux while tim fights for games on mac. He spent a fraction of the cost that epic spent fighting apple in the court to build an actually playable linux ecosystem which ironically also benefited mac gaming because Wine can also launch shitton of windows games even on an m-series macs.
>>724552829>Oh no, some indians who'd never buy my game anyway are seething about it not being on Steam! What will I do with all these millions of dollars I'm making? They are useless to me in the face of words online.
>>724551260Because for all intents and purposes, you do own them. Just because the legalese calls it a license doesn't change the fact that Steam DRM is hilariously easy to crack. You can just do that and it will be functionally identical to a copy bought on GOG.
>>724552106kys roastie
>>724545838relative to their usefulness, yes; cruise ships are even worse, though. they literally burn the most polluting type of fuel in existence and drop literal toxic waste in the ocean (so toxic in fact they have to wait to reach international waters because it's illegal to drop in EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY ON THIS EARTH)all so some 70 year old retards can get some sunlight in their wrinkles
>>724553148So I can trade the games I totally own on steam or sell them to others?
>>724552172Your nose is showing, chaim....
>>724553027i wouldnt bother replying in earnest. they had a script update recently and their new strategy is aggressively accusing everyone of shilling first, which is basically FSB troll farm tier tactics>>724553050just googled it and got it from an imgur page.https://imgur.com/yJW2emdplease respond to the content of my post, or not at all
>>724553148egs drm is also easy to crack
>>724551791>30% cutWhen will you retards realize that it's literally industry standard? Everyone takes the same cut. Why do you focus on the only pro-consumer company in the industry? Is it because you're not actually consumers but shills paid by worse companies to try to get rid of Valve?
>>724553050GTA isn't on steam.
>>724553249I'm jewish because I call out gaben for working with the single most jewish group there is?Please elaborate.
>>724547517Because modern America does not produce smart CEOs and Execs. They are most likely nepo babies instead of someone rising to the top. Stock buybacks have been a disaster to the human race
>>724551230>No one fucking simps for amazonThat's because amazon is run by greedy kikes who see everyone as nothing more than a wallet to extract money from.
>>724552562This. They want to just destroy steam and take it's place as a worse "monopoly" so that they can make more profits at the expence of the consumer base.
>>724553445Like gaben?
>>724547517they have nothing but contempt for the audience they're trying to capture. they would rather grab people by the throat and force them to buy their shit than actually entice them with better offerings, even if the first costs more than the latter. just look at this thread: someone once again authorized millions to astroturf a nepalese tomboy discussion board for no apparent reason other than "we gotta take steam down a peg"
>>724553148But that is not intended, according to the official storefront you are just renting it.
>>724552047>massive narcissist with a messiah complexExplains a lot actually.It is unforgivable that Unreal games are not being sold on Epic's store, yet Steam had them, and after Epic pulled them out of there (and not selling them anymore), i can still play them on Steam. Fuck Timmy with a flack cannon.
>commie loses debate>tries to nuke threadevery time.
>>724545960>be me>an average Joe>want to fuck a girl with no effort>search uo internet for an escort>contact her, set up a "date", pay 50-100 eurobux, spend an hour doing whatever you want with her (I like to infodump some obscure nerd shit on them lmao)>go home satisfiedwhy won't richfags just hire a high end escorts rather than concocting these elaborate schemes because they're evil, that's why
>>724553097>Government do bad thingF Reading comprehension, the US is rich because it's stealing from the entire planet
>>724552380>GrummzOh, its THAT fag.
>>724553241You can't do that on GOG either. If you're talking about physical on consoles, then Steam still wins because you can mod, crack and back up your games, while there's nothing stopping sony or microsoft from banning your disc.
>>724554181china has concentration camps right now where uyghurs are forced to pick cotton
>>724548016>doesn't have friends
>>724553554No. Gaben sees his customers as people who have wants and preferences, which leads to him giving them a good product unlike amazon whose main priority is extracting money from them.
>>724554356>What about this totally organic NGO issue sponsored by the CIA
>>724554639>China is so weak they can't even liberate concentration camps in their own country>But they are also right about philosophyArguing from weakness? I thought china numba wan?
>>724547038Xbox live predates Steam and also popularized micro transactions, and is also a subscription service middleman that provides value such as dog shit p2p connections.
>>724545838No, India and China are.
>>724549260>Gaben doesn't do anything for gaming>Steam Input>Free uncapped downloads>Free cloud storage for save files>constantly adding useful features to Steam for free>FUCKING PROTON
>>724554837Nigger are you stupid? Do you think I'm claiming that the CIA runs the concentration camps? The issue in the media is just a way to effect public opinion with CHINA BAD
>>724555008I was inferring that you aren't subhuman enough to deny concentration camps. But I'm talking to a chinie, should've known better.
>>724545713he could have saved gaza with his yacht fleet
>>724555161Stay mad israeli, china will grow larger
>>724545838>I play games on PlayStation 5don't forget to turn on low power "save the climate silky smooth 24 fps" mode
>>724547556Valve isn't a monopoly, there is no real financial/physical barrier for a small company or even developers themselves to compete with valve.Valve holds no patent or advantage other than being the best.
>>724554058 whats yer handle?seed and feed brother
>>724545713>Competition bad. Epic bad.competition is good, it's just that Epic has done fuck all besides trying to bribe people with free shit, instead of, you know, improving service.
>>724545713I hope to become this rich in my lifetime. Other than a yacht and a big house, I'll just use it to live an upper middle class life on creative mode. I'll also have daughters I'll pamper and they'll look like little princesses. Their joy will be my joy.
I don't see valve fleecing me for every dime that I have at every corner on a closed garden system even for basic shit like internet connection. Outside of a few instances and practices, overall they have a superior storefront that is more consumer friendly than any of the other shittier console systems and storefronts out there with more features with consistent substantial vydia sales that allow me to play games without resorting to piracy.I'd happily bat for Valve anyday because they aren't the ones fucking me over and its not mine or anyones problem that fags can't be bothered to make a better storefront. Sorry not sorry
>>724550428you have no idea how wasteful first world living standards are or how desperately poor the third world is. these people don't burn coal, they simply don't have electricity at all. or not enough to waste, anyway.but this conversation is pointless.
>>724545838fuck off with your green propagandathey still gooble less fuel than private planesand this yaht is not even that big in compare to other bilioners yahts >>724545960doing illegal shit like drugs and whores (pre16) because international waters have no laws ppl know
>>724545713Is he building his own Borealis?
>>724557014>green propagandaits everywhere, greenwashing is incredibly common by corpos, hydro dams are the most deadly form of power, nuclear is the safest and least harmful, you can eat plutonium just fine, recycling is a scam, global warming can be undone in literally 3 months, cheaply, easily, at any time by just pumping some sulphur into the upper atmosphere, electric cars are a massive scam and are doing more harm than regular cars, regular cars are actually pretty fucking clean, taylor swift caused more pollution in one year on her jet than the entirety of manhattan, and then some. Solar is a ethical shithole, solar and wind power fucks the environment as they bury every used component and quarry the fuck out of the earth, gasoline remains the most stable, energy efficient fuel, nuclear plants are ONLY slow and expensive to build do to fear mongering, and just a few decades ago they were made within a year.its all so fucked
Holy shit bro just provide a product that is better. All Epic ever had to do was undercut prices and it would have been fine
stop hating rich people because you are poor, they are not to blame for your financial mistake
>>724557387https://www.thegamer.com/epic-boss-says-developers-win-game-store-wars-not-consumers/Timmy thinks (You) don't matter.
>>724547134Then blame the other developers for being too retarded to make their own launchers in time. Valve simply moved first and the others joined the ride.
>>724557837I like how most 4chan posts are simultaneously most of the triangle at once.
deals to help develop and bring ports of beloved console exclusive series' like Kingdom Hearts and The World Ends With You to PC.He has also helped the environment, between 2008 and 2019, Tim Sweeney has purchased and dedicated over 50,000 acres of North Carolina land to conservation, the most notable being the Box Creek Wilderness, a 7,000-acre natural area that contains more than 130 rare and threatened plants and wildlife species.Tim gives you free games, has brought beloved console exclusive series' like Kingdom Hearts and he only takes a 12% cut from devs meanwhile that fat greedy jew Gabe takes 30%Tim is out saving the environment mean while Gabe's fleet of yachts are destroying the environment and oceans. Tim also looks like a normal friendly mentally stable man meanwhile Gabe looks like a homeless pedophile.
>>724545838You are thinking of Dupont.
>>724558103The reason the super yacht is a research vessel isnt actually for research, its to make it a tax break instead of a heavily taxed luxury purchase
>>724558103>Tim Sweeney has purchased and dedicated over 50,000 acres of North Carolina land to conservationHe bought an abandoned mall and is doing fuckall with it.
>>724545713But i do love competition.That's why I buy my games from gog
Man not owning my games in X rich fuck's store is so much better than not owning my games in Y rich fuck's store.I fucking love not owning my games!
>>724545713Gabe litterally said "pirate my games, idc"To his credit the only companies that ever emailed me threats were EA and Activision and I pirated portal 2 and the left 4 dead games.
>>724547517I think their sheer disdain for their customers prevents them from trying. Remember this article from when EGS was just starting up? Notice the wording in>consumers already have the best experience they're going to have using those platformsSo they know Steam is not the best experience possible, just the best the consumers are ever going to have because EGS isn't going to even try competing on that front.
What could Gaben be up to out in international waters where the law can't touch him? Hmmm?
>>724545713>video game billionaireDude hasn't made a single good game his entire life. All that money he got was from scamming real game companies out of 30% on his greedy platform. Also, giving children gambling addictions with CS loot boxes. And now he's going to pollute our planet too...
>>724559629sony's customer service was mine>buy rock of ages 2 on psn>it doesn't save, no matter what i do, launching the game behaves like a brand new launch>get a refund>get EW DLC for my digital copy of XCOM on PS3>first base defense mission crashes every time>loads of other people have the exact same issue with a digital copy of the DLC>ask support for a refund and they say no because my XCOM playtime is high and i got the DLC a couple weeks prior>explain the problem is hidden behind hours of gameplay>get a "too bad" response>ask if i should be pirating to try games for functionality before i buy them>agent says such talk is grounds for him to report me to the authoritiesguess who has two thumbs and moved to PC in 7th gen
>>724547517You wouldn't use it even if it was objectively better in every respect because you're a dumbshit consumer sheep that puts the brand name and muh gaben memes before anything else.
>>724560432and yet you couldn't name a single thing gog supposedly does better.gog doesn't even do what they used to claim they were founded to do. their entire claim to fame is being easier to pirate than steam games.
>>724559654>took 2 years to develop a shopping cart featureTimmy at least didnt lie. He said the software will be shit, and it was! He said hes going to bribe developers, and he did!
>steam provides service>look inside>games are by developers>servers by akaami>getting money for doing nothing by valve
>>724560870one thing i'll never acuse sweeney of is being a liar. just a total self-serving cunt.
We need to buy more games so Gaben can arm this beauty with AA batteries, artillery and torpedoes.
>>724561004>um they use 3rd party servers guys... we HAVE to be better men!!!Why not just use EAplay then? Real question, not an attack.
>>724560517Nta but gog gives me offline installers.Does steam give me that? No
>>724545713I hope Gabe enjoys his boat.
>>724561237Not sure what you are talking about. Akamai is the CDN (content delivery network) of steam. Meaning internet download shit is all handled by them not Valve. Combine with the fact they sell other people's games. Hence the meme about Valve doing nothing and winning. They literally don't have to do anything since they are a parasitic middle man taking huge cuts from everything. "This is what a successful system looks like" - Random limp wrist twink at Valve
>>724545713I never understood why billionaires use their money to buy something as lame as fucking yachts (plural). There's so much cooler stuff that amount of money could buy. Richfags are retards.
>>724562954If I were billionaire rich I'd donate it all and keep 1 million for myself. Then I could live decently for the rest of my life without the need to work.Dunno why this is such a rare thing for richfags to do
>>724560517>>724560432GOG is the only store I use as much as Steam because it has a bunch of retro games steam doesn't have (ie HoMM, a bunch of 90s RPGs).
>>724562954>There's so much cooler stuff that amount of money could buy.Like Epstein's Island?
>>724564294>anon actually believes in charitiesoh my that's adorable
>>724565217It's not like I'd have any better use for them
>>724564294Most of their fortune is locked up in stocks. You should also think of them primarily as money allocators pursuing some higher goal. For Elon, thatās Mars. Guys like Gaben and Bill Gates are oldfags, they have no big dreams or high ambitions left. Their best years are long behind them, and they move with the agency of retired boomers settled into philanthropy, hedonism or passive legacy maintenance.
>>724545838>Aren't yachts like those one of the most air and water polluting thing on the planet?Not remotely, cargo ships have them beat.
>>724545713>Le weekly steam hate thread
>>724565098No, like complete independence from any state or system. Epstein Island, being a mossad front for blackmailing rich and powerful people and keeping them in control, was literally the opposite of that.
>>724556891and there are 10 million of them for every one of you, retard10 million desperately poor people doing anything and everything to survivefor each "wasteful" amazon package you open and throw away, 10 million thirdies burn 10 million tires to stay warm
>>724547234nah.
>>724558103>deals to help develop and bring ports of beloved console exclusive series' like Kingdom Hearts and The World Ends With You to PC. They would've come to PC anyway. It's too big a market to ignore. Largely thanks to Steam.>He has also helped the environmentI genuinely could not give less of a shit about the environment if I tried.>Tim gives you free gamesMy shipmates also do that and they have a larger collection. I don't need scraps from some greedy landlubber.>12% cutThe 30% cut is industry standard. Timmy himself has said that 12% is unsustainable.>Tim also looks like a normal friendly mentally stable man meanwhile Gabe looks like a homeless pedophile.Timmy looks like the pedophile. Gaben looks like the Western depiction of God.
>>724547442I don't want to pay half my salary for a shirt though
>>724545838>every other response saying china and india pollute the most>google countries that pollute the most>the biggest polluters are china, USA THEN indiaHuh? So pollution blame is just another form of murican inperialism? Is that it?
>>724562754You think Akamai is just letting Valve use their servers for free out of the goodness of their hearts?Also, Steam has tons of features that take dev time to implement and maintain.
>>724566709>independence from any state or systemIsn't that basically what yachts are for? No laws in international waters.
>>724567389Akamai takes a very minor share of the pie.>Steam featureslollmao evenI'd rather steam devs sleep instead of ruining client any further
>>724567580>No laws in international waters.Why do anons say this shit? It's not true.
>>724567586>I'd rather steam devs sleep instead of ruining client any furtherYou can simply not use the features if you want. Or use epic or pirate if you want a barebones piece of shit that doesn't do anything except launch games.
>>724567726You can simply stop shilling and admit steam is a rent seeking middle man.The more you talk the more you expose yourself as an ignorant sheep who didn't do his homework before arguing with autists online.
>>724545713Silly reminder that these Steam hate threads started after Microsoft tried to buy Valve but Gabe told them to go pound sand
>>724545713>scientific researchso just tax writteoffs right?
>>724567875Steam hate started since well steam existedBut steam shilling only got this bad after 2010s
>>724560517See, you can't even say what one of GOG's primary market appeals and advantages over Steam is, even though it's one of their most often touted and advertised features. Fucking sheep, I swear.
>>724567912Yup. And the only people who would be mad about it are the cunts that pay jack shit in tax anyhow.
>>724561004If Steam does "nothing" then why don't developers just host their games on their own websites?
>>724568308no steam = no buy is whyand valve doesn't even allow you to reduce prices on your own website while selling at steamso there is no point to hosting it yourselfthe fact this obvious anti competitive practice needs to be repeated dozens of times in every steam shill thread is insanedon't forget this tomorrow
>>724547234No one believes that but polluting browns.
The way these things work Steam and Origin are a bit like consoles, since you cannot play games without them.
>>724568456>no steam = no buy is whyBy your own logic, Steam IS giving something then, if people cannot sell decent numbers of their games without them.
>>724554218Do you think he'll ever release his vaporware that he's totally definitely still working on after collecting all that founder pack money?
>>724545713>gabe doing ocean researchWhat's he up to.
>>724566839you're simply wrong. US emissions per capita are 13.83 tons per year. emissions per capita in africa are about 1 ton per capita.300,000,000 americans emit more than 1.5 billion africans. in fact there would need to be 4.2 billion africans to equal america's pollution. the numbers are similar for all first world countries.there are a lot of africans. but you are far more gluttonous than you realise. if we want to prevent pollution the solution is to target the small number of people who cause most of it. you were so worried about pollution and overpopulation and resource consumption when you thought it was an excuse to target niggers. are you still so gung-ho now that it means that you're the one who would have to change?this issue is nuanced. it's not all one thing or all the other. but that's not the point. the point is that i fucking hate you. i hate how shallow and ignorant and fucking braindead your takes are, how you pretend to be cynical when in reality you just don't fucking know anything. i always used to be confused when people called cynicism childish - how can simple realism be a bad thing? but it's not realism. it's just fucking children sitting around pissing themselves complaining about things that they don't understand.i've wasted too much time on this already. your permission to have an opinion on this topic is revoked.
>>724569856>i hate how shallow and ignorant and fucking braindead your takes are, how you pretend to be cynical when in reality you just don't fucking know anything. i always used to be confused when people called cynicism childish - how can simple realism be a bad thing? but it's not realism. it's just fucking children sitting around pissing themselves complaining about things that they don't understand.biggest 4chan trvke
>>724566839>>724569856oh and i should mention that average emissions in the poorest african countries, where people really are doing everything they can to survive, are about ~0.10 tons per year depending on the country and year.the savages who you think are raping this earth? you do more damage than a hundred of them. there would have to be 42 billion of those people to equal just one america.again, this issue is nuanced. i'm not talking about the nuance. i'm saying that you are trading on vile imagery of desperate savages to use an issue you don't understand to justify dehumanising and eliminationist rhetoric. and if that's what you want to do then fine, so long as you know what you're doing, but you don't. you're just too fucking stupid to help yourself.but that's not even the part that gets me, really. it's the fact that you did it to yourself. you WANT to be stupid. you actively resist being educated because you know that the facts don't get you to where you want to be. you have lobotomised yourself so that you can better serve as a footsoldier of ideology as an elaborate coping mechanism for your own personal failure to thrive. it's so fucking pathetic. it's so fucking pathetic that this is all that humans are. to quote a VIDEO GAME: all the gifts your parents gave you, all the love and patience of your friends, and this is the fucking result.
>>724546481>>724546540This is why I dont believe in I.Q. as a measure of anything. "Smart people can also be incredibly stupid.
>>724567875I didn't like steam from the get go and thought it was gonna be starforce but even worse, eventually caved because of tf2 and fine with steam now.
>>724569856>per capitaper capita statistics are meaningless for environmental health because the impact on the planet is exactly the same no matter how many excess humans you shit outchina and india don't have a license to pollute more just because they let their populations balloon irresponsibly
>>724569856>>724570337I agree with you, but for your health I recommend leaving this thread because your writing very successfully conveys your blood pressure. It is pretty sad though that there are so many people on this board (and probably the world) that wallow in their own misery, unwilling to admit that they probably could make their own life better in measurable ways, and instead look for anything else they can blame. We're never going to be millionaires like gabe, but I think most people with the capability to post on this board have the capability to improve their lives to a reasonable standard unless they're severely disabled. It's a lot easier to blame unwashed hordes though so I (legitimately) see the appeal. I think it would be pretty blissful to be a retard who can fully believe that their problems are entirely the fault of others.
>>724568456>no steam = no buy is whySo Steam is providing a service (i.e. paying users).
>>724545769Honestly. Fpbp
>>724568456Obvious bait when your argument is that Steam has a monopoly because people voluntarily choose to use it over other storefronts, the only question is if you do it for fun or if you're paid. Post a picture of your hand with a timestamp.
>>724571379>your writing very successfully conveys your blood pressuremy posts were worth it just to get that reply anon, made me smile unironically. i'll take it as a compliment.but yes, i'll also take your advice. i have work tomorrow and need to go to bed.>I think it would be pretty blissful to be a retard who can fully believe that their problems are entirely the fault of others.they're always so angry though. because if it's someone else's fault, you should hate that person, right? (and if it's not actually their fault then hating and fighting them won't actually fix it, so you're going to be hating and fighting forever...).i think of them like a dog trapped in barbed wire. too stupid to free itself but too wounded and confused and panicked to let anyone get close enough to help. all you can do is watch it thrash and cut itself to death, and hope that it will lose consciousness fast enough that you can get there in time to save it once it can no longer resist your help. i work as a nurse and i've seen it. some people won't ever realise that they're in freefall until they hit the hard landing.anyway enough of the imagery. i ramble when i'm tired. goodnight anon, i hope there are more out there like you.
>>724545713>rich guy funding research based noblesse oblige enjoyer
>>724562754>I dont use ea play because the service is worse and it has poor integrationFixed thay for you. You went on a weird schizo rant that means nothing. These things happen!
>>724572243>dog trapped in barbed wireYeah I can see it from that perspective too; for me I find they're smug and angry in their "knowledge" in equal measures, sometimes simultaneously, so I just assumed they enjoy it. Anyway enjoy your rest, it's always nice to have an interaction on the internet free of irony and trolling.
>Basically owns a monopoly on the PC market>Doesn't care about what gets published or canceled>Steam sales have been a detriment to the PC market as people just wait for them before buying anything>Absolutely terrible customer servicePC gaming died the moment steam became to popular.
>indians go to sleep>thread slows to a crawlMakes you think!
>>724574629>pc gaming died because you can buy cheap games
>>724560432i had the displeasure of having to deal with gog galaxynever again
>dont buy steam games because gaben owns a yacht>buy EGS instead because he owns 54,000 acres of land and is buying even moreyes yes let me keep paying the man who is fucking me over on land rather than the man who is fucking me over.. on the sea??