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Does being in Smash really change the image of a franchise/character to the public? Bomberman used to be lovef, but now he's seen as a failed/loser franchise because he got BTFO.

R1 sold millions since it came out before smash, but R2 flopped since Smashfags only wants games with playable characters
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Laugh at Bombermanfags
>has 100+ games
>one of the most copied games of all time
>revolutionized multi-player in gaming
>had the first HD game ever
>launched the successful B-Daman toyline
>good Nintendo history and had a crossover with Wario and Mario Party 2 unused content
>has other crossovers with Pac-Man, Transformers, Yatterman and Lilo & Stich
>still gets BTFO in SSB and became a complete laughtingstock by everyone
>series gets overshadowed by waifufags and coomers beacuse of Bombergirl despite them never playing the game
>R got outsold by the new Momotetsu, a fellow Hudson IP that was only released in Japan.
>no console game for 5 years
>No games on NSO, can't even get Panic Bomber on Virtual Boy NSO despite having less than 20 games
>not in Sonic CrossWorlds when Mega Man and Pac-Man is
>40th anniversary came and went with no fanfare or events. R2 flopped hard
>latest game is a shitty slot machine
>never got a Macy Parade Balloon
What a fucking loser. Imagine being a Bombercuck in 2024
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No, I'd just prefer to discuss Bombergirl if prompted to.
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Nobody even played these games.
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>>724546593
what the fuck is this bomberman derangement syndrome people APPARENTLY now have?
actual schizo shit
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>>724546593
>being added as an assist in smash is the reason the next game flops
kek, every excuse is valid except blaming the devs for delivering a subpar product
the game sold bad because they released it in a waxing moon, trust me sister, the cards spoke to me
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what is R1
what is R2
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I never really put bomberman on the same level as other vidya icons to begin with even though I like him. Love me some Super Bomberman 4 on the SNES
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Bomberman is on par with Phantasy Star. Old ass IP that has more legacy than it should but everyone ignores it and the devs turn it into a perverted mess.
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>>724550375
More like Pac-Man, iconic but it isn't like people are demanding more games from him.
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>>724546663
Bro just let the (bomber)man rest I see you in most Smash related threads
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>>724546593
>>724546663
>>724547776
All the same poster, btw.
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>>724546593
they don't even make smash games anymore. nintendo just released a new console and one hasn't even been announced for it. hard to stay relevant when there are no new games
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>>724551598
Nah. I'm not the one making Bombergirl threads either because there's no point to it atm.
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Little Mac being an Assist Trophy in Brawl led to him getting a new game, and then becoming a playable fighter in 4.

Bowser Jr. was put in the Junior Clown Car in 4 solely so that his alternate costumes could easily be the Koopalings, and has since been riding that thing almost constantly in main series Mario games.

Solid Snake's most common depiction is in his Sons of Liberty outfit, but actually uses Naked Snake's face. The only games depicting him as such are Super Smash Bros. Brawl and Ultimate.

Simon Belmont has never had a consistent design, but in recent years, he's always been depicted with his look from a NECA action figure from 2007. Why? Because that's the look they used in Ultimate.

Being in Super Smash Bros. in any capacity had a massive impact on a character's perception. Any problems the Bomberman franchise is having are its own.
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anyone complaining about bomberman being job, secondary or anything non mainline is an idiot

go play bombergirl or shut the fuck up
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>>724550105
they are the right shoulder buttons on a playstation controller
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>>724546593
Well we have to also consider that R1 sucked so that would damage sales of R2
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>>724551872
Bullshit Tyler, you totally are.
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>>724553328
>Being in Super Smash Bros. in any capacity had a massive impact on a character's perception.
Yet Saurkai doesn't like to showcase the assist trophies on par with the playable cast, need I bring up Melee's intro with Samus fighting Ridley?
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>>724557686
Who's Tyler? I'm Ruudo.
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>>724550105
If only there was some kind of utility where you could type that question in, maybe alongside other key words if you wanted to narrow it down, and magically the answer would appear
Until then, hopefully someone enlightens you
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>>724553328
>Little Mac being an Assist Trophy in Brawl led to him getting a new game
No, that was because of Next Level Games WANTING to make a new Punch-Out
Famicom Detective Club came back not because of Smash
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>>724546593
>>724553328
Smash Bros has one guaranteed effect upon a roster inclusion, it creates more porn
That's about it
There are some certain benefits i.e. people have cited it as a gateway entry to getting into less known Nintendo series' like Metroid, Earthbound, F-Zero, Star Fox, Xenoblade, etc but those are within the minority of people
The vast majority can become fans of the characters within the roster but rarely fans of the actual series' the games those characters come from
Smash Bros doesn't magically make something a gorillion times more popular, if anything most of the time it just gives a skewed perspective of the character onto people divorced from the context of their actual games'
F-Zero 99 did more to make people actual F-Zero fans (and not JUST Captain Falcon fans) than Smash Bros has ever done in its whole lifetime
Now let me make this clear, this only happens WITH roster inclusions
I love Assist Trophies but people don't care who gets added, it's only when the character has a sizable fanbase clamoring for their roster debut that's when people make Assist Trophies a bad thing
Starfy's been an assist as long as Waluigi and nobody makes jokes about him
It's not mockery, it's just apathy (also his series is on hiatus/dead right now so yeah)
It boils down the backlash of hype people get and how this fanbase is full of people who are needlessly competitive over something they have no sway into
The Smash fanbase has thousands people all with their own desires and the roster space in Smash isn't infinite (and it's practically guaranteed we're never getting something like Ultimate again)
People get older, they get tired, and/or become impatient
So when the "competition" gets taken down the peg it gives the illusion that their most wanted is suddenly more likely
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>>724546663
Bro you didn't even update the copypasta for 2025. It's almost 2026 now
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>>724560105
>Poodo
What did you do to be given such a shitty name?
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>>724553328
>Bowser Jr. was put in the Junior Clown Car in 4 solely so that his alternate costumes could easily be the Koopalings, and has since been riding that thing almost constantly in main series Mario games.
He was riding it on New Super Mario Bros. Wii before Smash

>Solid Snake's most common depiction is in his Sons of Liberty outfit, but actually uses Naked Snake's face.
They have the same face and he's bearded in MGS2.

>Simon Belmont has never had a consistent design, but in recent years, he's always been depicted with his look from a NECA action figure from 2007. Why? Because that's the look they used in Ultimate.
Konami rolled back the classic Simon look for Harmony of Dissonance before Smash.

tl;dr: you made a lot of wrong assumptions.
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Newfags don't even remember Bomberman 64 and Bomberman Hero where the Bomber had the most memorable appearance, any handheld game and spin-off decimated his reputation. Instead of putting the attention on multiplayer games they should have doubled down on cool single player adventures but they missed their mark.



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