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SPEC OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS
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holy shit better man group is growing large
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>>724549738
We need to be WORSE men.
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>but this isn't real so why should you care

Is there a case of a bigger self-own in writing?
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Most pretentious dogshit ever made
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A failure in execution.
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>>724549738
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>>724552150
We must be better mercenaries.
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>>724549738
It's ham-fisted and preaching to the choir.
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>>724549738
The ultimate filter.
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>>724552493
That's Disco Elysium, but this is close.
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>>724552570
I've never seen anyone suggest a way to do it better.
>I should be able to avoid killing the civilians!
Plebbest take.
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>>724552150
>What? OH N-
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The game just needed a way to handle the invisible walls/guiding hand a bit better, desu.
It's a pretty gen 7 problem though and the story is good, if not a bit overdone.
I just really can't get over literally having the invisible walls just push you back on the path it wants, or the infinitely spawning enemies then fingers shaken at you lmao
>DURR STOP SELF INSERTING
no, I'm playing the game to be the character.
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>>724549738
Bettermen... What is your excuse?
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>>724552150
jej
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>>724553302
>Plebbest take
it's an interactive medium. They failed on a very basic level, and your understanding is beneath even that. They at least knew that they failed.
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>>724549738
Oh boy, here we go again with another mental illness thread.
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>>724552150
walker was based
he ignored the recon-only order and only HAPPENED to kill a bunch of innocent civilians and soldiers because he felt he knew better than everyone
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>>724553302
The original gave that option. Just shoot the snipers if you have any skills.
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>>724549738
kino game, kino premise, still discussed years later I KNEEL
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>>724552408
I think a bigger self-own would be the spec ops devs admitting they used to have "good guy" options where you don't commit the war crimes but they had to remove them because people kept picking them. Can't say all shooter players are bad if your shooter players keep not being bad.
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I really enjoy when games break the forth wall and are full of hallucination/schizo shit. I'll always remember Lugo's ghost trying to kill you, and if he succeeds and you have to reload your save, the boss becomes just a generic grunt and Walker goes "Wait, this isn't right."
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Hotline Miami did the whole “the player is complicit in committing acts of violence” a lot better
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>>724558157
Harry?
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>>724553302
STALKER did.
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>>724549738
Objective: shoot the gun
>sorry you cant continue with the product until you complete the Objective
>no this is not the ending
>Objective: why did you shoot the gun?
Omg! This is deep!
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>>724557589
True. Just being discussed means its successful. McDonald's makes the best food and even here Dobson and bum tickle are legendary artists who succeeded in creating gre-

Wait... maybe being ridiculed is... bad?
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the character on screen is not me
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>>724560460
retarded ass excuse to deny your actions
that's like saying hitler wasn't responsible for killing 6 million jews because he didn't personally do it himself
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>>724560743
it's just a game anon, the people aren't real
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The shooting is absolutely dogshit and there is no fucking roll. the story grabbed me completely though and made it 8/10 at worst for me.

If this had the fluidity and shooting of binary domain it’d be a clear modern classic for me
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>>724549738
>war is... le bad
>Gamers: ZOMG SO DEEP I AM MOVED



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