I'm playing right now and wanna talk, let's have a thread.What are your favourite ships and loadouts? Also thoughts on the diplomacy update?
>>724550387There's a thread on /vst/ m8. I'm disappointed the diplomacy update is only based on player interactions, but I knew they wouldn't make it interesting.
>What to just dogfight>Can't because only way to kill capital ships and space stations is by having a whole fleet fire at them for half an hour>Also you need to set up a mining and ship building empire to fund said fleetsBah.
>>724551601Just go the pirate route if you want to dogfight with small ships
>>724551420>I'm disappointed the diplomacy update is only based on player interactionsYeah, it does feel like more of an espionage update than an actual diplomacy one. But I do like that it gives you alternate ways of getting blueprints, so that you don't need to go around scanning shit, or improving relations and paying ridiculous prices.>>724551601You can still dogfight against S and M ships. I always pilot a corvette myself, and if I feel like shooting things I just go to Hatikvah's Choice, there's always a lot of xenon there.
>>724551420is it possible for someone to mod in dynamic diplomacy? it's been a while since I looked at the API but from memory it's pretty in depth.I think all I want is for there to be a big pool of diplomatic shit that can happen under different circumstances (with prereqs like a friendly ship killed or a low/high trade or something) and have that trigger some swings in faction relations.would mean a bunch of organic stuff would emerge, like 2 factions going to war because shit escalated, or declaring peace because war lasted so long etc.
>>724552214It'd be fucking great if it was a true living world and the factions could form alliances, or even fall out, I don't know why Egosoft don't even want to make that an option, maybe it'd break the game.
>>724551601>Can't because only way to kill capital ships and space stations is by having a whole fleet fire at them for half an hourI dont understand what you want, do you want cap ships to be easily killed or the fleet handed to you?if you really want you can custom start with a fleet.
>>724552291>maybe it'd break the game.nah I just think it'd be hard to get right probably, there's no technical hurdle to doing it, the games pretty well made under the hood.
>>724552415I meant gameplay wise rather than literally, it might fuck certain questlines up if factions are at war. It should be an option anyway.
>>724552214I haven't played it myself, but check this outhttps://github.com/DeadAirRT/deadair_scripts
>>724552359If the game was realistic, a few shots from a capital ship would be enough to destroy any other ship or space station. They need to add FPS mechanics so I can fight my way to the reactor room and set a big ship or space station to self destruct.Also, nukes? Hello?
>>724550387do you guys prefer X or Zero?
>>724552702man that sounds exactly like what I was describing, cheers will check it out.
>>724552754if the game was realistic you'd be doing retrograde burns and maneuvers and shit to dock with stations.you dont want a "realistic" space game, no one does.
>>724551601Only the x-wing star wars games give you the fantasy to take down capital ships by yourself.As for X4 you could always give a general order to your frigates/destroyers to attack capitals and then take fighters with you to assist on taking one down. It would greatly reduce your losses.
>>724553028There was a demo at the next fest that goes full newtonianI enjoyed ithttps://store.steampowered.com/app/380110/In_The_Black/
Which S/M ships do you use for combat, and how do you set them up? I'm thinking probably some heavy fighters like Ares or Eclipse Vanguard attatched to carriers and fitted with torpedo launchers would do great as bombers against L/XL ships and stations. What about interception/anti-fighter duty? Normal fighters like Moreya with some beams? Or maybe shard batteries or pulse lasers would be better? Or maybe just leave the interception duty to M corvettes?
>>724552494This. Just give me the option and I'll deal with the consequences if any arise.
>>724553028That's a thing in the game, though. You can turn on the feature that enables newton's 1st law and lets you drift endlessly.
>>724553028>>724553387You can just press a button to switch between flight assist on or off
>>724553174The best fighters are the ones with the most turrets. I think the best one is called the Dragoon.
>>724553387kinda, you press backspace and your ship magically stops relative to all the stations still.
>>724553457fighters don't have turrets, dragon is a corvette and has the same amount of turrets as every other corvette (2)
>>724553614I thought it had like 7 turrets. Are you sure? We anyway, Dragoon is still the best DPS because it can have the most weapons firing at once and it's also super fast. There's another corvette with one less weapon, but more armor.
>>724553057Anon Im disappointed in you. You can torpedo down a cap's exhaust then take your time picking it apart.
>>724553767are you thinking of the split one with 6 guns? and 2 turrets?there's a terran corvette(?) with 6 turrets though.
>>724553767ahturrets are the automatic guns mounted on hullit does have 6 weapons set on hardpoints facing forwardYeah, I like that one, though the terran Katana with 4 weapons has much better shields, and the Boron Hydra (also 4 weapons) is great as well. Now that I think about it, there are no bad corvettes, I like them all.
>>724553837I'm thinking of the fucking Dragoon. Yes, it's a split ship. They typically go all in on weapons and engines. I hate terrans because they look like they devolved into chimps. Argon for life.>>724553987I think the thing with terrans is that their ships are the 2nd best at everything, which makes them best over all.
>>724553789I often go in to personally destroy capital's engines or turrets, but fuck actually sitting there shooting at it for 10 minutes straight.
I wish this game had like a skirmish mode where you could just spawn specific ships to test them out in a controlled environment. I mean I can have wings of multiple different types and send them all into the same fight, but that only lets me judge them by the losses they suffer, without knowing which ones actually inflicted more damage, too.
>>724555456What's even your goal? If you just want to know the best ships for combat, it's a simple affair to find out.
>>724555538>If you just want to know the best ships for combat, it's a simple affair to find out.How so?
>>724556000Ask the community. That's how I found out the Dragoon is the best dogfighter (at the time I asked). You can just google it, search the forums and such.
>>724550387Terran destroyer, with flak and plasma. It was a specific plasma and a specific flak I forget which. That's for my ai shipsFor my ship I like the split simply because of the speed.Bsd to build three mega factories in different sectors for the parts. Then I had a massive shipyard in that contested area of outside of Terran space with the robot viggers show up all the time. Built a massive defensive station there to deal with the. Fun to sit on the station and watch the light show.Btw I started in the Terran space, easy to make money. Build your first Terran parts factories there, once you move there quests along a bit they start sending expeditions to shoot up the robots. So they always have demand.Also I built a solar farm also in Terran space. Easy money. Problem with too much micro getting trades far out.Ended up building a storage facility in the middle of the map. Also get the mods that remove the super highways game flow is way better, that and remove the constant damage in that one water boy sector, AI is too stupid to handle that. Same with that no shields sector.Fucking love this game
>>724552754>>724552754If that game was realistic you wouldn't fly anything and it would just be drones flying around at speeds that would kill an organic.Muhhhhh realism is stupid and boring
>>724551601That wouldn't be a dogfight
>>724557481>Terran destroyer, with flak and plasma. Osaka or Syn? Syn is the stronger one, but honestly I don't like it very much, because it looks rather generic, while Osaka has a nice shape.>It was a specific plasma and a specific flak I forget which. That's for my ai shipsProbably Paranid/Argon. The former has the best range, and the later has the best turning speed.>the robot viggers show up all the timeOne of the things that bother me with this game is how weak they are. They're meant to be this great danger, but in none of my games have they done... well, anything at all. Right now I'm running a mod that improves their economy and doubles their shield and hull strength, but even with those huge buffs the only place they've managed to cause any damage is Hatikvah's Choice I, and even then they eventually got pushed back.I think I'll install a mod that just spawns a bunch of fuckhuge fleets for them, but I want to finish story quests first, in case they actually manage to wipe out some vital locations.
Are gunships just pointless? Medium turrets are kinda shit, I thought I might use them for anti-fighter or anti-missle duty, but they seem to underperform anyway. Is there a usecase for them?Similar question about frigates. I guess they are fairly tanky, but what situation would I want to use them instead of corvettes?
>>724560636medium turrets suck except for argon M flak which is really good. I just slap the argon flak on every M turret on every ship I have, they swat down both S and M ships. the split have flak as well but the worse accuracy makes them worse than argon flak.
>>724551601What.I kill capital ships with a fighter all the time, even Xenon K and I.Agree with stations though, destroying Xenon Defense Stations requires at least a destroyer and is mind numbingly boring.
