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What killed flash games?
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>>724565265
flash dying
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>>724565265
flash
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>>724565265
smart phones
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>>724565265
html5
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>>724565265
Steve Jobs
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cool it with the
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>>724565338
fpbp
seriously, what else could have stopped them?
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adobe
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Me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HulO5oR4SaU

I feel like the spirit of Flash games live on with HTML5 projects. You can straight up play my free crime sandbox game in any browser immediately with nearly everything you'd expect from a 2D GTA style game, it's like Stick RPG in many ways

https://progchad.itch.io/pixurbia
https://gx.games/games/r5r8eb/pixurbia-2d-crime-sandbox/
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>>724565386
this

at some point more kids had unsupervised access to a smart phone with mobile games than a home computer with a browser. Now both mobile games (and by extension flash games) have unironically been replaced by Roblox
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1) Apple
2) Adobe
3) The-

Fuck, the death of /f/ still hurts after all these months. i can't joke about that shit.
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Steam ending greenlight, allowing early access and allowing every Chang, Pablo and Sukdeep on the platform for a small fee is what killed flash. For over decade, flash was where indie devs cut their teeth and built reputations and design skills that would eventually translate into a successful full-fledged indie game. When greenlight ended not having actual people willing to buy your game stopped being a barrier to release on steam, flash then became pointless, because why would you spend time and effort making a flash game to build an audience when you could make an early access cash grab instead and scam some people while learning to make games.
>>724565338
Nope. Flash was already effectively dead already when this occurred.
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>>724565265
Call me retarded but I'd like to say Steam did it. Yes, Flash dying is what killed flash games, kinda, but the flash player could be used as a standalone application, so I'd say that didn't truly "kill" them. The motivation behind making a game shifted around the 2010s and people who would have made flash games started making indie games to publish on Steam instead, in hopes of making the next big thing. These were the types of people who had already had practice making games with Flash, but exited the scene. When you're dealing with a dedicated engine with its own language, you need veterans to stick around and teach the newbies.
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>>724565265
exposure
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>>724565265
Apple not supporting it on the iPhone, made websites stop working and a giant shift happened, around 2010 flash was quite dead with pretty much complete removal in the few years after
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>>724565265
1 Steve Jobs
2 Adobe
3 Satya Nadella's Windows 10

RIP
My heart goes out you
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>it was for cybersecurity and cybersecurity accessories
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>>724566169
Steam is the mutant ressurection of Newgrounds
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>>724565265
Fucks me up that apparently it was Edmund McMillen who designed and animated the Kongregate logo
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>>724566169
I'd say Steam took a part in it but it's definitely mobile games that rapidly drowned out Flash games at least at first.

I love playing all of the flash game remasters & sequels on Steam and supporting all of these people that carried the Flash games scene in the process. Most of the "Legacy Collection" apps are a bit lame for the price they ask though.
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>mobile games are just flash games
>but there's more microtransactions
>and more advertising
>and the controls are shit
>and a bunch of them are carbon-copies of each other
>and not a single app store is good so have fun sifting through all the garbage on there
didn't appreciate how good we had it
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Flash was a dogshit technology and even before it was axed Flash games were long dead. It wouldn't have changed anything even if they continued supporting Flash.
The tech itself was irrelevant, the spirit died long before 2020.
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>>724565386
This. The market shifted away from computers and most consumers moved to smartphones. Flash just didn't transition nicely to smartphones even if it was technically supported on Android. Also, iOS never supported it because Apple wanted to force people into making apps within the constraints of their own ecosystem and tech stack. So a part of the reason is just Apple being much more relevant than Adobe.

>>724565430
This is also correct. More specifically <canvas> and improvements made to JavaScript between 2008-2012. There was no reason to make a Flash project after 2015 with the release of ES6. You can create anything in a web browser engine now, without requiring Flash as a plugin and without it adding thousands of additional security issues on top of the browser.
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>no more Meet n Fuck Marge, Naruto/Naruko, Hinata/Tsunade, BBWs, Latinas, Fuck Island
>instead we have Meet n Fuck IRL
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>>724565265
the nigga who made the legend of krystal games singlehandedly killed flash by never finishing a single game
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>>724565265
jewdobe
mobile phones
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>mogs actual World of Warcraft official titles in your path with super fun
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>>724565265
damn...I had a huge account on Kongregate with a ton of achievements, pets and everything. probably spent thousands of hours on there. what a blast from the past. RIP brother.
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Bloons never died
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>>724571041
>Game is horribly unbalanced
>Conditions to meet a girl is ambiguous at best
>Straight up locks more than 50% of the userbase out of the content
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>>724565947
The shittiest part is it could still be around if the mods would get off their asses and do any amount of work. The security threat is bullshit, there's no threat in hosting a file that you don't interact with in any way it was just an excuse for them to not be bothered with doing actual work. Much simpler to kill and hide the history of when this place wasn't a xitter repost collection.
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>those carefree days of playing Caravaner in the school library are gone forever

It hurts bros
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>>724572039
smile because it happened. it was a pretty small sliver of time where it was possible to experience it, and we did.
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>>724565265
Honestly it was probably patreon

Easy way for wanna be game devs to grift money without doing anything
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>>724571720
If bloons didn't die how come there's not a thread up? Checkmate monkeyfucker.
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>>724568056
no no no
roblox is the mutant resurrection of newgrounds
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>>724565265
The flash era was the last time video games were made for fun and you could see devs getting better over time and just wanting to share their work for free with other nerds.
At the same time that Tim Apple killed it we started seeing the shift in direction of those devs where they'd drop flash to sell their games on console and steam instead. The devs were already gone, even if flash was still alive they would have stopped using it.
We got really fucking lucky that Gayben didn't kill free mods too
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>>724565265
>>724565430
this </thread>
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>>724565265
Anybody else ever play Adapt or Die? Or any of the Monster Evolution ones?
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>>724575575
I opened it and I can't get past the start button
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>>724565265
I miss talking in the chat rooms while playing Infectonator.
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>>724565265
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughts_on_Flash
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>>724565265
My big penis
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>>724567708
The most recent 4chan hack was because of flash lol
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>>724565265
Money.

People used to make games for fun, but then smartphones came along and it became obvious that retards would inexplicably pay real money for in-game microtransactions, so all the developers started doing that instead.
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>>724576929
It wasn't. It was because of a .pdf file.
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Hey guys, does anyone remember a game where you go to hell and after the boss you find your girlfriend and then you have to return with her where you started but you can't look back because she disappears?
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>>724565265
dumbass fucking idiot shithead
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>>724577137
That's depressing. What happened with us?
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>>724565265
I didn't play them as often as I used to so they shut it down.
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>not downloading flash archive
Your loss.
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>>724577234
Don't Look Back
the plot is from greek mythology
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>>724577480
Damn, I'm retarded for not doing this
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>>724577234
This is just the Orpheus myth
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Man, I remember being on shit internet and playing some game called PAWN. It was a stick figure arena shooter with chat rooms
Then I discovered Crazy Monkey Games and loved playing Thing Thing & Song before moving on to Armored Games and eventually New grounds. Back when banner advertisements were people actually just bringing traffic to their games, and not just malware, which is how I found Sherwood dungeon and 2007 Roblox.
I know I'm just nostalgia rambling, but wtf happened to games just being fun and not cash grabs
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>>724578658
Meant to say Sony instead of Song. That game was dope as hell, and I just recently found it again on Steam
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>>724565265
90% of the games being mobile freemium garbage probably accelerated it, also all of the security problems with flash didn't help.
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>>724577224
THEY'RE CALLED LOLICONS AND THEY ELECTED TRUMP TO BE SAINT HITLER (PBUH) YOU LONGHOUSED TOURIST NIGGER I SWEAR ON MY
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>>724579386
the bot is malfunctioning again.
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>>724579726
not him but i think it was supposed to be a joke
pdf file = pedophile = lolicon
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>Ow
>Owie
>Scratchy bitch
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>>724579794
Tough crowd
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>>724565430
What's so much better about html5?
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>>724571564
Holy shit. What's the name of this one again? You just unlocked a memory from 20 years ago and now I'm dying to know.
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>>724582413
Murloc RPG. Make sure to play the Stranglethorn Fever version
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>>724582413
>>724583789
Holy shit hold on the game is on itchio and the developer even added more stuff! Gotta check it out
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>>724571564
Holy shit. What's the name of this one again? You just unlocked a memory from 20 years ago and now I'm dying to know.
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>>724585723
Stupid doublepost, disregard
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>>724565265
For kongregate? It was the proliferation of shitty incremental/idle games
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>>724565265
Pateron bux and early access
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>>724565265
It's the most inexplicable thing of all time, as everyone has a web browser. My best guess is that mobile games replaced them. If you think about what you were doing at the time (you were a dumb kid trying to kill time) and think about what those kids are doing now, they're just downloading games on their phone.
>>724565338
Wrong answer. "Flash games" can just refer to any browser game. HTML5 games are really easy to create and compile, and there are HTML5 wrappers to play old flash games. Think of post-flash browser games like agar.io, I would classify that as a "flash game" even though it wasn't adobe flash.
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>>724565265
it pissed off the big boys of centralized internet badly that there was a lightweight, easily embeddable tool of free expression worming its way around the decaying corpse of the internet it killed 15 or 20 years ago
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>>724565568
This. Adobe bought Macromedia and proceeded to do basically nothing of worth with Flash and Shockwave
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Sthief J"ude"obs wanted to force everyone into his gay-ass "app store" and charge developers for developing, so he mandated that flash doesn't run in iFone. Normied flocked to iFone, and so Flash was doomed.

>>724586275
>"Flash games" can just refer to any browser game
lol what drivel. FLASH games are FLASH games made with FLASH
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iphone not supporting flash
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>>724565265
The Epic Battle Fantasy dev is still making them.
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>>724565265
those who claim html5 superseded flash do not seem to understand that swf files were very bandwidth efficient and reliable, neither of which html5 experiences are. you'll be lucky to have an html5 project load before you die of old age and god help you if you want something responsive and light on memory considering browsers already eat it for a 3-course meal.
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>>724588327
>lol what drivel. FLASH games are FLASH games made with FLASH
This is an autistic response but not the correct one. You're kind of intrinsically making the argument that when people like OP express nostalgia about flash games, it's Adobe Flash, rather than the spirit of the games and the means of accessing them in a tiny window in internet explorer.
There were even a couple notable "flash games" back then that were actually Java applets, yet nontechnical people still called them flash games, because they looked exactly the same. But I wouldn't expect you to know that since you were probably 2 years old.
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>>724565265
Unreal Engine and Unity
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>>724565265
smartphones
i could only play fancy pants and btd4 on a computer when i can play fruit ninja and angry birds anywhere
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>>724565265
Flash.
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>>724589574
it's weird to me how i'm getting older and seeing so many unironic cheerleaders for fucking angry birds and fnaf when no more than a decade ago both were a joke for retarded babies
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>>724565265
Any Mardek enjoyers?
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>>724579924
The riot polices and their dogs were cunts to deal with in the Legend run
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mobile gaming
every flash dev realized they could release their game on mobile which would not only have a bigger target audience but could potentially be monetized
like itch.io probably is the closest to the spirit of the old flash games but even then the clear goal of most games is to earn money
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>>724588989
Nobody, NOBODY called non-FLASH games FLASH games.
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>>724590560
I remember having to restart a fight over and over because the fucking dogs would just kill one of my characters before my first move.
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>>724577137
This, money is the greatest enemy of soul
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>>724579794
>>>724579726 #
>not him but i think it was supposed to be a joke
>pdf file = pedophile = lolicon
That would work in speech but not in text
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>>724586275
if anyone called Candy Box a flash game I would call them a fucking retard until they formally apologized
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>>724565265
Adobe.
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>>724581202
Proper multi-threaded GPU acceleration for starter.

>>724565430
What a painful few fucking years for HTML5 to actually get up to speed for replacing Flash as far as video playback went, since Flash was convenient due to supporting codecs that HTML5 required browsers to get up to speed with.
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>>724593151
Fine I will correct myself. For something to be a flash game, it needs to be rendered within an embeddable browser element, and it needs to have graphics.
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I've installed Flashpoint
And concluded that perhaps Flash deserved to die
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>>724565265
Steve Jobs and Adobe.



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